Had a girl i kinda talk to that offered to take me out n pay for it. Tried to tell her id pay and that it would be fine, she wasnt goin for it. I honestly didnt know how to respond cuz i had a ex that wouldnt ever pay for any date cuz “thats what men do”. Thought i was being set up 🤣
Not a setup bruh, lmaoooo. Plenty of women are fine with paying on some dates or very generous in other ways. Embrace it and appreciate it, we can all do with reciprocal generiosity and appreciation.
Same, for some reason I seem to attract women who are willing to pay just as much as I am if not more. Though I do end up with people from the service industry frequently, not sure why but that might be a part of it.
I was dating a girl a few years back, and I paid for all the dates. I made more money, she was a student, and I'm a chivalrous guy, so i had no issue with it. One night she tells me that she's taking me out and to dress up nice. Turns out all the dates I'd taken her on had saved her a fair bit of money and in appreciation, she was taking us to one of the nicest restaurants in town. We spared no expense and had a wonderful time. I married that girl a month and a half ago, and I still can't believe she's mine. There's good people out there all, don't lose hope
My thing is how do women like this go so quickly ti start calling other adults “ broke “ and start using financial insults while also getting this triggered because you had to pay a bill 😂
During the COVID, I was living with my sister and her bestfriend. During a conversation, the bestfriend mentions receiving some 50 or so euros from a guy and she was belittling it. My sister immediately checked her, asking; "When have YOU ever in your life just given someone your hard earned 50€???"...silence to hear a pin drop. I had never been so proud and relieved.
Often these are the types who are broke and in debt for shopping or they have payments on a car they can barely afford. If they look super made up and well dressed they’re probably not that well off and will become a financial liability.
There’s chicks I give a chance that are so not on my level financially, the first thing they try to do is see what they can get. I was nice to a fat girl I didn’t even like. I was just nice to her “TAKE ME TO THIS RESTAURANT!” It’s disgusting out here. I’m the quiet nerd type. I’ve never been asked out so much and certainly NEVER turned down so much in my life as this period.
As a woman this is SO embarrassing! God forbid you pay for one meal. She sounds like the same type of woman who’d think she deserves to keep the ring if the engagement was called off. This is less about the money and more about her character. He dodged a bullet.
It's rage bait crap Both sides of dating podcasts spend all their time saying the most stupid, sexist and toxic things about the opposite sex for rage farming. Pitting men and women against each other for rage clicks and views. I rarely ever see a man on some male centered dating podcast talk about women as human beings with feelings and I also rarely ever see a woman on some female centered dating podcast talk about men as human beings with feelings. Just bitter miserable sexist individuals trying to cause men and women to hate one another for financial gain through rage farming. Slimy weseals.
Exactly. I don’t even go past a second date if the woman doesn’t pay for it when I paid for the first or if we’re not splitting bills. These women are single for a reason and you just ignore them.
I once dated this gorgeous black woman. She seemed like she was feeling me. We flirted, she asked me sexual questions, yet everytime i would try to hangout in private she would make an excuse. So after about a year into it, after like 10 dates, i tell her we got start splitting the bill. She says " you are not a real man" "That's not what a real man would say"
About 5 years ago while in college, I was invited to watch a movie by a colleague after we got off a practical class in the hospital. It wasn't a date, I was just there for the company because her friend didn't go to class that day. This girl paid for the pizza and drinks while we were talking and waiting for the movie to start; although she wanted to pay for the tickets I had to go back home and study for a test, so she watched the movie by herself... it was the first time a girl ever did that to me and it felt special. We started dating 5 months later and this year we got married.
@joelstudyboy672 I hope she explained to you that she invited you. If you invite someone, unless you say go Dutch, the inviter should pay for the invitee. Ask her and I think she will tell you that of course she paid. She was the inviter.
Met a girl took her bowling when we got to the bar she blocked me from paying for the drinks when I ask “ what’re doing I got it “ “ she says no way you payed for bowling I’m paying for drinks” me and the bartender locked eyes 👀👀……. I married her ass six months later going 8 years strong having our first baby boy this September ✊🏾
right!? It turned from its only 3 dates, to a hyper-focus on one meal and them expecting it to be split PLUS spending probably 45 minutes talking about it. "Its only 3 dates" - uh huh
I assume its women who in her circle who are making good money. Before I stopped doing this I would spend $100 one of the first couple of dates because $100 dollars was not a huge investment for me. Its all relative to how much you make.
@@mrt094 Those women earn millions. The one on the right is Joy Taylor from FS1; she's related to a Hall of Fame football player and everything. Girl's been around money her whole life.
@@solomonadjei758 That's why the reactions are so wild. Theyre well off women who can afford to pay for all the dates. Theyre literally human contradictions who espouse feminism and want chivalry in the same breathe.
women can think like this if a wealthy man is the one asking them out.. If he leads with his wallet and says he is going to take her to some expensive place, women can get the idea this will be an ongoing thing...Women are the ones who become selfish if they only give a time of day to wealthy men...
What many women seem not to understand is that it’s not even about the money most of the time; it’s about the signal. “You can’t EVER do something for me?” Is a horrible feeling.
Exactly. And these are the women a man who is experienced in dating watch out for the most I would say - They’re broke. After I spend time with you (Spend money lol) and I never see you offer to pay for anything, you automatically are nothing but booty to me. A truly believe a woman who knows a man will at least make the effort
It's like when a man does something nice for a woman and she's so happy and appreciative and then he's mad because he wanted sex in return, it's heart breaking actually. Do nice things for people because you want to, not because you want sex. Women like the one in the video that wants to be repaid, are fucked though. People in general need to start treating each other better. No wonder everyone is tired of "dating".
@@enchantressdch1207No, not the same thing. Because that man is spending his money, not her. This is why I coach my friends on dating & having relationships, this is exactly how bad it’s become for men. What I’ve noticed of women all my life (I’m 34), the ones who are about anything do not even hesitate to buy a man something
Yep. I find it so strange that women, ESPECIALLY working women, think men should wine and dine them for many, many dates when dating. In particular, the early phase, when you aren't even sure you like each other. So we expect men to pay for 100s of dollars when going on the first few dates. It's an unrealistic and selfish mindset.
My boomer auntie literally made this joke (statement) last night during a family dinner at a restaurant. All the boomers laughed and I just fuckin facepalmed and shook my head. I lost respect for my auntie's new boyfriend for not pushing back on that.
I've had a girl say this to me and basically try to play it off as if she was joking... the entire relationship she acted on it. Be careful out here fellas set clear boundaries and let these women know you can easily leave to get someone more suitable for you.
@@robjohn6943a chick you’re dating is not your family. She’s just someone you are vetting with the potential to grow into family. Once you decide you want to share your life with her that’s when you start to take responsibility of protecting and providing for her and the children she bares you. Stop wasting money on women that are just for fun. Other guys are smashing for free🤷🏿♂️.
It’s not just about them not being grateful. We know that they aren’t grateful. The bigger problem is that they’re manipulative. They changed reality to make the man the bad guy and the woman the victim when that woman didn’t do anything right in the situation and the man didn’t do anything wrong. He paid for multiple dates, but they claim he’s out there scamming. How exactly does that work? She didn’t pay for anything, walked off Scott free after she got the bill, but they don’t even say anything about her being a freeloader. Again, how exactly does that work?
My ex-wife, after a couple of years of being married, literally said, on multiple occasions, "I want to be worshipped" After I divorced her, one of the other women i dated told me the same thing. Stay as far away from woman that act like they are superior to others and believe they should be worshipped. They will only bring drama, pain and suffering.
That's demon talk right there, wanting to be "like the Most High"... also stay away from women with childhood trauma, butterfly tattoos and the one's that when you argue always attack your masculinity and call you "little boy". I'm telling you that last one is a huge tell about what you are actually dealing with.
Disclaimer, I don’t like the idea of worshipping anyone…or being worshipped. respected and cared for is much butter. But, Out of curiosity….what was her definition of worship?! Not yours, but hers?
@@sinan-senceryes, it’s a strategy of getting others to the work for you. With “the work” being money, effort, time, commitment… the issue is two-fold the person knows full well they are capable of doing it themselves or are at least unwilling to try it or learn from taking effort/initiative. Hence, it’s weaponised as a tool against the other person. It’s like a husband saying “ooh I’m not good at washing dishes” 😂😂 men do this, woman do this, our parents or siblings or co-workers do this etc.
My best friend told me a story a couple years ago about how he was talking to a girl on FaceTime and they were trying to set up plans to meet up (This was someone he had matched with on a dating app) and she wanted him to take her on a helicopter ride over NYC for a FIRST date, which has to cost at least $200. That literally screams “I saw an instagram reel of this and this is now my expectation”. Mind you this girl was from Washington Heights so it’s not like she grew up with money and got these expectations from her parents.
I dated a girl for about 4 months. EXTREMELY selfish and entitled. I paid for the first two dates not to mention I bought her bday xmas and vday gifts for her. Things seemed to be going ok but I said I'm not paying for the third date. On the third date that Bill sat there forever because I wouldn't touch it. She wound up paying but was PISSED. She acted like she lost a leg by doing something for a guy. All i had was noodles, a glass of water and a drink and I wasn't worth that to her. I date a woman right now who cancelled our date because she got sick and she cash apped me 25 dollars for lunch. She won alot of points with me for that
Yeah met in November her bday is in March. I blame myself because I met her thru mutual friends who told me she was a headache. I didn't think it was that deep but the more I got to know her I realized they weren't lying. Honestly the most delusional selfish person I've ever met. She said she was hurt two many times in the past so I'm treating her as if she just has trust issues and walls i needed to break down. After that incident on the third date that was pretty much it for me. I cut my losses and moved on. I don't blame her I blame myself for dealing with it and compromising so much for a selfish bitch. I KNEW better and went against my better judgement from the start
No adult who wants to eat, shop or play should leave their home without any money! Assuming someone is going to pay for you is wild. I’m married and I don’t even assume my husband is going to pay for all our meals.
Isn’t the money into the same overall pot? While you each might have your own accounts, you’re both on the same team already overall. These women are still on their own teams.
@@antwanthorogood4921 yes, we have separate and joint accounts. We talk about what purchases are joint and then decide who wants to pay for things from our own accounts. No one will ever have a successful relationship or dating experience if they are selfish.
I like how she said he was scamming for meals because she paid for a date, completely ignoring the first two dates he paid for 🤦🏿♂️ They really don't hear themselves
Those dates he paid for meant nothing to them,not all but definitely majority also look at a man that pays mortgage or rent the same way it means nothing,a lot of men don’t realize some women never pay rent ever they go from home to college and sometimes meet a guy in college or a grown man and move into his home where she won’t pay
Preach doesn't always say much but when he does it's usually either funny as hell, a struggle to get his thoughts across in his third language or he preaches words as wise as Solomon.
They need more hopeless men to mow their lawn, fix their roof, and women to settle down with these men. They gaslight because they can't have regular people know how they're being played.
It’s just these kinds of women. Most women out there I’ve dated are normal. Don’t go for women who want to be a princess. I ignore these types just like I ignore the homeless
Every date me and my husband had id bring my own lunch to not stress him out since we were super young. Because I knew he paid for a train ride ticket prior for 2 hours to come see me and bring flowers. I always said thankyou for everythng because seeing him made my day. Overtime he did take on the provider role because he said he loves to take care of the people he loves and to prepare me for motherhood when i cant work as much. Since women stay pregnant for a year so we cant really work at all. I just love my husband, and supported him through everything. It came naturally, also realistically hispanics tend to be more traditional. But get rewarded for it and encouraged, since all the men in our family provide and respected majorly for it. To this day I love my husband for all that he does I still say thankyou when he buys me food and flowers.
there is still the under lying chameleonish vibe that you feel that is what he is supposed to do. ....ive seen women do some pretty active things while pregnant and single by choice so the 'at all' is pretty ridiculous. nice that you chipped in a bit though...we do appreciate when yall do
There ARE women who insist on paying for themselves. Unfortunately, that equalizes the power dynamic -- which is often a problem for one or both people.
@@pkp6791this is true. And it’s unfortunate how much respect and value women place on the money spent in a relationship. It doesn’t even feel like people wanna fall in love anymore. It’s like two lawyers going at it
@@Southforthewinter It isn't only women who create problems on this end. Lol! People ( and traditionally , it has been men) use the money they spend on dates as some sort of power leverage to get whatever they think they deserve for having spent ANYTHING. Going dutch, eliminates a lot of BS on both ends. BOTH sides need to be prepared to accept what going dutch means-- that NO ONE has leverage or a right to anything.
Uhhh traditional women don’t pay for dates esp in the very beginning however what’s corny about her is that she asked for money back after paying. Paying for a date is essentially a gift unless you’re transactional.
I dated a girl for about 2 months. By the 4th date I’m thinking “Is this girl ever going to reach for her purse?” After a month of paying for literally everything I’m thinking “How did I get into this situation? Am I living in the 1800’s?” I also did a lot of free graphic design for her because I wanted her to succeed. T-shirt design, logo, book cover etc…After each design she’s say “Oh thank you. I’m going to take you out for a thank you dinner.” I waited about 3 weeks for this elusive dinner she promised. Meanwhile I’m still paying for everything. One day I finished a design for her and she said thank you. I said “That’s OK. You can pay for dinner tonight.” She looked confused. Later when we went out I asked for the bill. When it was placed in front of me I just slid it over to her side without a word. She was flabbergasted. As she reached fr her purse, she had the gall to say “Usually it’s polite to wait for someone to offer to pay.” I had to bite my tongue to stop replying “Bitch, I’d be waiting till hell freezes over before you’d offer. I’m still waiting for this mysterious “Thank you dinner:. If I was to charge you for all the design I’ve done your bill would be about $5000. I dumped her after 2 months after I’d had it up to here (hand raised way above my head). The crazy thing is at the end of our very first date I said something like “I think you’re a very cool chick. I’d love to do this again.” She replied with “Cool woman. I’m not a “chick”. I thought “Oh, she has some feminist tendencies enough to do a bit of language policing.” Funny how that feminism was thrown out the window whenever the bill arrived.
As a woman, I am super confused by their reaction, as well as POV! If he paid for the two previous dates & the woman DID NOT pay for anything, where in her mind is it making sense that he pays 1/2 of their last date?????🤔 Especially when she didn’t split the first two?? These ladies were genuinely shocked by the man’s response and I am just like 🤣 Maybe the girl was butt hurt the guy didn’t want to see her any further…? 🤷🏽♀️ I actually find it hilarious he sent her the receipts for the first two dates! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Right?? My response to him sending her the receipts for the first two dates was “good for him!” It’s like there is no thought or consideration given to men and their money. What happened to all that woman equality?? 😂 smh I appreciate men who are chivalrous; however, I do not expect him to pay for every date or everything we do together. You need to show your appreciation by at least offering to pay and being prepared to do so.
Same. I do not know of any woman that pulls this crap. Also, I think the dude was seriously put off by her which is why her sent receipts for the dates.
@@forgipper Unless the guy is very good looking, he has to lead with money and tell a bunch of BS promises etc to get with a woman also making bank.. If the guy is leading with money, the woman expects the guy to pay on dates. Not that hard to figure out
As a European y’all’s dating culture and expectations is stressful honestly 💀 Edit: I also remember a few videos back people were saying that you shouldn’t accept coffee dates or hikes coz you’re settling or something but it’s so relaxing and regarded as nice where I’m from, the difference it’s wild xD
Exactly! Another European girl here, you know how much of a joke this is to us :D I had the best date with a guy who bought us coffee to go, we sat by the river and spent the next million hours getting to know one another, which is kinda the point of the dates? lol this whole culture in the west is so uptight and rigid to me, kills the whole vibe.
That's because they take classes on TikTok to learn how to scam a free meal from a different man every night of the week, so they assume we have the same mindset
Had he not decided to stop dating her and continued seeing her she would’ve been fine. Facing rejection she was bitter and expected to be reimbursed. Him flipping it and using her flawed logic to say well “if that’s how it is well you owe me for your half of the first two dates” was just too much for her. That makes too much sense for her and many women to comprehend.
Women: I’m not your mom don’t expect me to take care of you like she does. Also Women: Finance my entire lifestyle and spoil me like my dad does and maybe just maybe I will grant you the royal privilege of my physical presence.
@@gregkareem9824Lots? Ive never dated or been in a relationship with a woman who acted like that. In fact, i can only think of two women ive ever known, with those expectations. One was actually pretty funny, she will say "it took me years to remove my gag reflex. That along with the fact that i never spit....... i get what i want".
Let me get this straight. So he paid for two whole dates. Covering both him and her. Then she pays for both of them on the third date. She feels a type of way about that, and turns around to ask him to pay her back for his portion of the third date, and these to nuts think that seems fair?! His response of sending her the split portion on their first two dates is exactly the type of response you send to a woman like that. He knows she is not going to pay him, but that's how you end a relationship with someone that behaves like that.
@@JordanDragonAs Lol, The two nuts I speak of are the two women. Read my comment again. I said old dude had the "exact response that that woman deserved".
Let me play devil's advocate. She asked him to split AFTER he said there would not be a 4th date. Maybe that influenced her reaction? I am not saying I agree but if that was the case then was that third date in actual date in her mind?
@claytoncourtney1309 Yet her entitled mind didn't think about the fact that he also paid for the previous two dates. He wasn't getting his money back either so it was fair. Hell she lost less than him considering she only paid for one date. Doesn't matter what she thought abt the date
The being appreciative thing really brought me back... Had a roommate when I lived in my first apartment, and during the summer months we would go to the local cool coffee place to see people we know and have some joe. We were young, we were fairly broke, and this as an activity that didn't cost too much. I had a car, and he did not.... which meant when we went somewhere, it was me that was driving. I never asked for gas money, but a thank you every now and then was nice. He started pulling things like asking if I wanted to go for coffee, and then on the way there, asking if we could make a could stops because he wanted to drop off a couple of resumes at a couple of places on the way there. Then when he had dropped off his resumes and we were ready to finally go for coffee... he would look at his watch and say it's actually not that long until he has to head to work and he needed to head back and get ready. After the third or fourth time pulling something like that I let him know I was moving out. I had no problem in doing someone a favor or two... just come to me and ask me... but the entire mind game of it, and the insult to my intelligence like I don't realize what he as doing. Fuck that. People that play these kinds of selfish mind games and gaslight people, are ejected from my life immediately.
I understand how you feel. I rcectnly had conversations with family about omitting information when communicating and then expecting me to figure out what they need. It's something that shouldn't be tolerated as critical thinking human beings.
The thing I love about this channel is how much you guys talk about virtues. When I used to watch redpill content (a few years ago now, damn time flies), and even now when I watch other UA-camrs comment on pop culture issues it always kinda seems like something's missing and I think it's because they don't talk about virtues at all. Like of course we should act this way and there's a right way to act but why? And I think the why can be found in the virtues that you guys mention so often, i.e. being chivalrous, graceful, patient, kind, merciful, honest, ect. It's like our society has moved so far away from these things that they forgot what they are and why we need them
At 1:37 the full quote from Joy before it gets cut off is: "There's no possible way he thinks that she's just paying for his presence" This is where their heads are at. They don't think of dating as a means for two individuals to get to know each other and form a connection. They are quite literally saying "my time is more valuable than yours will ever be to me"
@@ST-rj8iunah, what's funny about your comment is even you know it's BS. Men know we have to pay for dates. This wouldn't even still be a conversationif 99% of men weren't paying.
@@SBdunk1987 men are not paying for dates all the time. women split the bill plenty. my comment isn't BS. If you are such natural providers than pay the bill every time. If you knew, why is this a problem? At this point, many women don't care anymore.
They have equal pay. They just refuse to do many jobs men do. The uneven pay is due to not following the same career paths, but the toxic ones don't want to hear it
Aba speaking some truth. I don’t pay for a date because “I’m a man”. I pay for the date because I asked you to come and do the stuff I wanted to do. I take it even one step further. If I’ve taken you out 2 or 3 times, and you haven’t offered to take me out and come up with an idea for a date I take it as you are not interested and I’m wasting my time. Relationships only work if both people are involved and are putting forth effort. Period.
She did the same shyt these guys do when the woman says they no longer wanna date. These new men will be like oh well send me my half for the date - we see social media posts on this all the time 😂😂😂
Italy here. Nobody I know, man or woman, would ever accept a restaurant as first date. Not only do you lock yourself in a three-hour situation you can't get out of with someone you basically don't know, but you're also burdening yourselves with a ton of expectations and a whole narrative that bespeaks of marriage. That's cringy as hell. An ice-cream to go and a walk in the park is a perfectly fine first date.
Definitely not the mindset here. Coffee dates, ice cream dates, etc woman call low effort or cheap here. They're more worried about where they're going than enjoying getting to know someone
I asked a man on a date, hes ten yrs older than me and conservative where i am liberal. We went to lunch and i paid, he was very adament about paying. I told him that i invited him and didnt expect him to pay. He told me that was the first time a woman ever paid for a date. I was shocked, ive paid for plenty of dates and see nothing wrong with it.
Why are you asking your dad on a date instead of asking somebody your age that's weird who used to groom you when you were a child to make you think that's normal
Seems like you paying for dates is not working out or doing what you intend for it to do. Since you have paid for multiple dates and think nothing is wrong with it. You sound like a “pick me”. Let the man be the man and you be the woman. It is okay if you pay for a date if you see it going somewhere but off top is just giving trying to hard. Have any of these men asked to be exclusive with you or to marry you??? Time to switch it up.
I'm a man and I'm super happy I'm not single because of these type of women. Before I met my wife there two different female friends that I was interested in and was upfront about it (at separate times). Used to go on lunch dates with them and always paid and they would always say they will treat me the next time but never did. It also didn't progress into anything beyond occasional hanging out. When I realized they were just using me for free food I phased the dates out but still remained friends. But the kicker was, after I started dating my wife and it was publicly known that I was in a committed relationship, they both mentioned to me that they miss our lunch dates and we should do it again sometime. I just laughed.
When my husband was studying for his rheumatology specialisation I used to make 4 to 5 times more money than him. We lived in my place, I paid for almost all food and bills for the first two and a half years we were together. Now he’s on the path of being a millionaire. He showers me with gifts and trips now but most importantly - he showers me with love and warmth. A relationship is building a team. And teamwork is what moves us forward. If she don’t want to spend money on her loved one, what is she even doing??
Now that's what I'm talking about respect and recognition hold your happiness queen an respect to your man a true gentleman remembers an responds with the same live he received
Gotta love the way the broad says guys are doing the same thing, scamming for meals, after he paid for 2 of the dates, and the woman tried to split the third. I'm glad my dating days are over.
When she was saying that, I literally didn't know what she was talking about as the woman was actually scamming for meals. LOL, thanks for the clarification, which was just saying how disgusting she was.
There was a woman I went on four dates within two weeks. First date: I drove 30 miles to where she lived to pick her up, paid for dinner, paid for drinks, drove her home. (she offered to pay I declined) Second date: Exactly the same. (she again offered to pay, I declined) Third date: Picked her up, paid for dinner and a movie and drinks, dropped her off. (she once again offered to pay and I declined) Fourth date: Lunch date - she offered to pay her share and I agreed. So we split. She literally ghosted and blocked me after this date. I later found out it's because she had to pay for her lunch. I spent over $500 in two weeks in this woman. But her paying $20 was just too much... 😅 This was about 8 years ago. Since then I've gotten married and have a child on the way. She's still single, posting lonely Instagram posts bashing men...
I would just give some advice, but you're married with child, so you're okay now. I would just say, don't do 4 dates in two weeks. She's not that interested. That's called a meal ticket. That's called attention-seeking. $500 after 4 dates says a lot. I mean, food and entertainment, probably some gifts. It's just too much.
I think Preach has made a very valid point. The lack of gratitude is a huge issue in our society. We don't bother saying thank you, or recognizing the kindness that comes our way. This is very obvious in this video, and in these women, but it is very much a larger problem.
For me, I work out at a nice place in the park. It hits multiple points. 1. Check on natural beauty 2. Attitude and work ethic check 3. No money spent on a dud 4) sets a tone 5) gets the fires going because the world is cold and you are encouraging and saying “good job” while stirring up endorphins. Get some gloves and pads, it makes dates fun.
I prefer drinks. Coffee feels so friendship and it’s harder to build connection in my experience. Coffee always feels like an interview in my experience. My 2c because maybe I’ve never had luck with coffee
@@grgryocean you can choose whether or not you want to be engaged in a conversation with someone. Whether or not food or drink is in front of you doesn't make a difference 💀💀💀
I met my wife 9 years ago over a coffee date, she was 22 and I was 25. Now I'm 34, I pay for almost everything, once in awhile she buys delivery or the drinks or w.e. but at the end of the day we go to OUR home and live together with our expensenses. The mindset I get from these ladies is they never had any intention on a long term thing, they're focusing on trivial stuff when in the bigger picture it's all coming out of your relationship together. They don't seem like they're planning to contribute to a joint venture.
@@tjaspire Restraunts are full of people who don't get paid much and have unhealthy food so in a stage you have yourself together in you shouldn't go to those places either.
Unfortunately too many people are looking for someone that is there meeely to give give give with no expectations from her in return and it literally blows my mind. Most of these women don’t want a man to share their lives together they want a Dad with none of the rules. They want “Dad” that gives them everything for free, unlimited money and all the freedom to do, say and act however they want to act and honestly it’s yucky. I’m sure there’s lots of red flags but I tell any guys I’m friends with that ones of the biggest red flags involves the wedding. If it’s her wedding or her day that’s all about her that shits a red flag. Weddings aren’t just about the bride. There is a bigger focus on the bride which could be for a variety of reasons I think sometimes it has to do with the fact that women care more about the details of the wedding compared to most men but the bride isn’t the only one getting married. Weddings aren’t about one person and it annoys me so bad when women make it all about them. I feel like I can say this without as much backlash since I am a women but I’ve called out as many women as I’ve seen. Sorry Bethany but no the wedding day isn’t just about you. A wedding is about both the bride and the groom. It’s about 2 people joining their lives together AND their families. Too many women want a wedding for outlandish and selfish reasons. Too many women care more about the wedding than they do about their marriage and that shit never made sense to me. Your wife sounds reasonable because I’ve seen way too many women online complain about coffee dates which I also don’t understand. Why does a man have to spend a shit ton of money on someone they often barely know. Shit always was weird to me. I think coffee, ice cream and other simple dates like that are great because it gives people the chance to get to know each other better and be able to enjoy each others company without potentially added stress and pressures. I encourage everyone to trust your intuition and look for those red flags. Everyone is going to have some selfishness within themselves but they shouldn’t only be thinking about only themselves.
No, life as a single person is better than with the wrong partner...The wrong partner can really bring down...That is why people are single...Would you prefer to be single or marry one of those women from the video?
@@linapesz313 what you said doesn’t refute my point at all. Also, you automatically went to the negative scenario where the person you chose is the “wrong” partner & they brought you down. There are billions of people who have chosen the “right” partner or get married for reasons beyond personal happiness like the betterment of society. They don’t subscribe to your way of thinking, so understand that what you’re saying isn’t universal law.
@@Skywalker721 we were talking why women in their 30s prefer to be single.....and you did not answer the question...Would you prefer to be single or date one of the women from this video?
What? You sound dumb and bitter as hell because where did the age range come from? Yall ninjas need to understand it's not the end of the world being a single adult or something is wrong with you. Meanwhile a lot of people are in toxic, and unhealthy relationships because they can't enjoy their own company. Go have a seat somewhere pls😅
Prime example of the behavior that led so many men to the question of "what do women bring to the table". So many women genuinely don't understand that they are acting selfish and entitled
Some men but not many. Majority of men are still a bunch of suckers who are being used for free expensive meals by women who don't respect him. At least in the US. European men are not that beta.
Too true, got a mate like this as well, his relationships never work out cuz he gets girls that are crazy and obsessed w him, loves the intial worship/lovebombing then gets bored
I paid for my registered nurse wife to come to America. It wasn't cheap and took 3.5 years. She eventually got a six figure job and petitioned her mother to immigrate. My knee got worse and wife made me retire early. Now they both take care of me. They're loving it. It's going to be hard to find a good one in this social media age. But you could have better chances if you exercise your passport.
fuck, that shit is pathetic. 150 million women in america and you have to go pay for one? I know its getting more common, but it is pathetic as hell. To each their own, I guess, but know you are weak to the core. you can still enjoy life, but understand how you are perceived.
@@TheFaro2011 I've only been aware for the last 17 years. It appears to me that the success rate is about between 65% and 70%.. And most of the men who divorced still feel like they're better off than if they would have married someone from the West.. almost all of them leave the relationships with more confidence that they can start over at any age.
All these dating podcasts hosts are divorced men and women with several failed relationships under their belt. The men and women they get with find out what type of individual they are and leave them and then they start a podcast showing why their ex partners left them The people who actually take them seriously make me laugh. It's like getting fitness advice from a lazy overweight slob or financial advice from a person who sold their house and now is homeless because of a gambling addiction Why do some people fall for these dating failures for advice? If anything is to learn from these dating podcasts hosts (The male hosts too) is NOT to be like them. It just comes off as "If I can't be happy in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex.. THEN NO ONE CAN"
Here is what people don't seem to understand. People want to feel love. The same way a man shows his love by taking their woman out to a dinner/on dates whatever. Is also the same woman can show love too. Are there going to some guys who take that as a jab to their masculinity having a woman want to pay for date? Sure, but most dude would be very grateful and it shows that your not looking at him like he is just bag of money for you to take from. This is even more refreshing now a days because there are a solid amount of women who think they're entitled to dates, clothes, purses and so on provided by men and they don't think they have to do anything at all return for it. That its a privilege to even be the same room with them. So finding a woman that shows she appreciates at you all would feel very nice.
That's why I always say if women really like and respect you, they will pay for you because they hate paying for men. If she doesn't pay or suggest to pay, you know where you stand. Move on! Drizzle Drizzle
It’s true. Every single woman that actually liked me, paid for me. The entitled ones that EXPECT it always end up stringing me along forever. You can’t just be any guy though for her to pay. She has to really like you
Facts. I’ve had chicks invite me out, pay for the date and basically ask me back to her place just for some D If they like you and/or see potential with you they are willing to pay!
we dont know if shes beautiful honestly. all we know is that she can draw well on her face...its not like you could make a solid guess about how she looks underneath.
fact he pay for both date and she mad he trick her into pay fort he third date, I bet he knew he knew he was going have to pay for the third date, and decide to trick her like female like this used guys all the time and when a guy used her they act like the victim
I am a woman and here is my two sense : Paying is a gesture of respect, and showing enjoyment for the company!! Pleaseeeeee women, pay for the man you are out with !!!! Not on a first date, but definitely after that !! It’s just a sign of respect!! Grow the F**%* up !! It scares me that these are the women giving advice. I once dated a guy who was very honest about his financial situation and it made me happy to contribute, as it meant we could go out and be together. It’s JUST money !!!
My wife and I adopted a 50/50 split since shortly after starting dating as we both worked full time and made pretty equivalent pay, and if either of us fell behind or had a change of job or what have you, the other would support to keep us whole. Five years later we are married, we custom built a house last year, and just had our first kid. We just recently bought my wife her dream SUV, and she only has to work three days a week right now because I’m now making great money and she would prefer to have more days at home with our daughter… A marriage that operates as an equal partnership is the way to go, and you go exponentially further when both halves work together towards your common goals, instead of one half pulling the entire load. My wife says she feels bad for women like this who will never experience the benefits of a healthy equal partnership because they’d rather adhere to archaic “traditional” values that have no place in this era.
Yeah but she put her labour into you. Now imagine she had the kid, no marriage ,worked the same hours and no SUV. That's what women want to see can happen and that's a partnership.
@@thejoatmoo I know you’re trying to throw shade but you’re missing the point. We struggled together for 5+ years, both working full time jobs and second jobs, sometimes with her bringing in most of the money while I was essentially a paid intern. There were years where we couldn’t afford to exchange gifts at Christmas or for bdays or we didn’t go out to eat and she cooked every night so we could save money. She never complained at all, and from the jump she never EXPECTED any of the things that are possible for us today to be necessary for her to be with me. We worked hard as fuck to get to this point where we can afford to live the lifestyle that we want, which just so happens to include the fact that she doesn’t have to work as much. Doesn’t bother me at all. I am very passionate about my work and happy to be the bread winner now. She is very passionate about motherhood, and she supported me so that I could pursue and excel at what I’m passionate about, so now it’s her turn to do what she is passionate about, and nothing makes me happier to see her at home, raising our daughter. Yes, we have arrived at a traditional end game scenario, as someone else mentioned, but the path here was anything but “traditional”. The women in this video couldn’t fathom having our scenario as a reality. They’d never support their man like that.
Fair is fair. Entitled is entitled and selfish is selfish. This is crazy. Majority of the general public doesn’t think this way and it’s insane to me that the ones who do get a platform. It’s wild!!
Women generally speaking don’t tell the truth amongst themselves so what make you think they will see how incompetent they are, while there are some that know they’re incompetent but because society caterer woman they can make it out. If a man incompetent he is outcasted if roles reversed there making millions selling nudes etc
Yes! They opted out of hard work for literally thousands of years until offices were safe, pleasant air conditioned environments with swivel chairs and coffee machines and then some how blame men for oppressing them 😂
He made such a good point with the fact that these women have the means to pay for things and just don't? I've been with my boyfriend for a little over 2 years now. When we were both in high school I always offered to drive, gas money, to buy him food, I would always always offer because that's just what you do when you love someone. It doesn't have to be something luxurious like a $200 dinner bill, hangers when they buy clothes and don't have enough anymore, their favorite food when they have a bad day, a gift when you see it and it reminds you of them. Now I'm in college so I'm absolutely broke as a joke and it makes me feel terrible that I can't always afford things on my own. However, when I do get money, he is still one of my top priorities and I always think of him when I make decisions on things. We are still very young and just becoming adults, so there is no excuses for grown women like this to not comprehend something as simple as this. It's simply self-centeredness and selfish behavior.
She turned him into a feminist. He was ready to pay 100%. He was happy with paying 66.66%. She didn’t like that and asked for him to pay another 16 or 17%. Then he thinks “Hey, you know what’s fair? 50%. Let’s go.”
Is being a feminist wrong when it alleviates any preconceived notion that the other person owes you something when you pay? Never understood this thought pattern.
@@johndoe1274 your mistake is youre trying logic and reason on people who're NOT sane. since there just is no possibility for a sane adult person to come to the conclusion that someone OWES them sex. and any insane person can just make up the most illogical bullshit reason to come to the conclusion that you owe them sex. 98% of guys are mostly fine dudes and wouldnt ever come to the conclusion that someone owed them sex. so feminism is completely useless bc it goes completely past the point. 1 kind of guy already knew how to act before feminism got big the last 10 years and the other kind of guy is so lost that you could never change his views. sorry english is my second language and complex sentences sometimes are just a pain in the ass x)
@@johndoe1274 Feminism makes life harder for women and easier for men in this economy. But Men don't like it because of what comes with feminism and how it's impacted society in other ways, aka the crazies.
Well, me as an old hag from East Germany, I don't get all that courting thing. Don't you really want to get to know the person that you go on a date with? Or is it simply that the guy (or girl) can pay all your bills? Why does it always have to involve an entire 5 star dinner with all the shenanigans? Actually, think courting is a thing of the middle ages gone looooooong time ago. If I want to go on a date with someone and I suggest it, it's on me. Unless there was some other type of agreement beforehand. Easy! IMO this dude did the right thing, and she showed him his true colours.
I agree with you. Unfortunately I think so many women these days are looking for someone who takes care of them financially but also worships them in some weird way. I’m from America but I’m in my mid 30’s and so most of the women I know are more on my end of things. We just wanted a man that would be kind, love us, be faithful and a man of their word to the best of their ability. I don’t understand what the crap is happening these days but it’s absolutely wild. Seems like most women these days aren’t looking for a husband they a looking for a parent that will allow them to do whatever they want without saying no.
The fact she asked him to split the bill after he didn’t want to see her again is wild. And then for them to say he was in the wrong for refusing is wilder. Then to call him scamming?!
@@Valen-mh9fh that’s still dumb. If you go on a few dates and it doesn’t work out. Both parties should just walk away. Trying to go back recoup money is insane. If you need that money back you shouldn’t be dating
The first date I went on with my now husband I paid for everything. Every other date I ever went on with a man I have always paid for my half. For better or worse my father taught me that nothing in life is free, everything comes at a cost and you pay your fair share. I absolutely never wanted anyone to feel like I owed them anything more than a pleasant date. I’ve continued this concept into my married life. My husband and I contribute proportionately to the household financially and we have never had any financial problems in our 16 year relationship.
I like that you understood that nothing is free, and you paying your fair share in life. It’s crazy that people will feel like someone has to do things for them, but will get mad because they expect something back
@@Che-vn6vu I agree. It’s absolutely a foreign concept to me that anyone owes me anything or I should be taking free things from people without any expectation.
I was actually talking to my girlfriend about this recently. In relationships everyone talks about how important open communication is, being able to forgive one another, being a good listener but I hardly hear people bring up being grateful. Saying “Thank you” and showing appreciation through actions goes a long way. People get burnt out when they’re doing the most but they get crumbs in return.
One of my red flags in dinner meetings like that. I always talk before paying about the wages of the waiters, and I pay for the meal. I wait a few seconds to see if the other party offers to pay for the tip to the waiters, if not I pay a larger tip than usual and even then wait for a response. If there is no response, a desire to participate in the tip at least, or the response on this matter, there will be no further meeting
@@Joelthedreamer and it's disingenuous because 99 percent of the time it's the man doing the asking. It's like the government telling a guy buying a car he needs Halley's Comet insurance in case Halley's Comet destroys his car. Sure it could happen but the odds are astronomical.
@@adrianchatman5734 exactly. That’s the reason they say that. I don’t ask girls out on dates for the most part because of those dynamics in general but they 100% expect you to pay anyway (now I have a girlfriend though who is a really great partner)
I think Aba's point of view was so well put. I loved it. It's not about the money, it's about having the trait of generosity, of being kind, of doing nice things for a person that you are dating, even if you are a woman. Men want to feel consideration, attention. Sometimes I'm scared of the women and men from America. Their realities are.... from a parallel life.
Had a girl i kinda talk to that offered to take me out n pay for it. Tried to tell her id pay and that it would be fine, she wasnt goin for it. I honestly didnt know how to respond cuz i had a ex that wouldnt ever pay for any date cuz “thats what men do”. Thought i was being set up 🤣
Not a setup bruh, lmaoooo. Plenty of women are fine with paying on some dates or very generous in other ways. Embrace it and appreciate it, we can all do with reciprocal generiosity and appreciation.
Real
ohhh We have a Pin of learning
Same, for some reason I seem to attract women who are willing to pay just as much as I am if not more. Though I do end up with people from the service industry frequently, not sure why but that might be a part of it.
If she's offering take it. That's like a bonus ring in sonic
I was dating a girl a few years back, and I paid for all the dates. I made more money, she was a student, and I'm a chivalrous guy, so i had no issue with it. One night she tells me that she's taking me out and to dress up nice. Turns out all the dates I'd taken her on had saved her a fair bit of money and in appreciation, she was taking us to one of the nicest restaurants in town. We spared no expense and had a wonderful time. I married that girl a month and a half ago, and I still can't believe she's mine. There's good people out there all, don't lose hope
She’s a keeper for sure.
W wife
That is beautiful❤
If you don’t mind how did you ask her out and how did you meet?
You found a real one
Asking someone to pay you back for a date after they paid for multiple dates is weird ….. I don’t understand girls who act/think like this.
Narcissism.
My thing is how do women like this go so quickly ti start calling other adults “ broke “ and start using financial insults while also getting this triggered because you had to pay a bill 😂
They don't want to grow up and become independent women. They want to stay as teenagers taken care of.
It's a very tit for tat mentality that they have, a sign of immaturity here.
Yeah I see why he did that! She is weird. 🤦🏽♀️
During the COVID, I was living with my sister and her bestfriend. During a conversation, the bestfriend mentions receiving some 50 or so euros from a guy and she was belittling it. My sister immediately checked her, asking; "When have YOU ever in your life just given someone your hard earned 50€???"...silence to hear a pin drop. I had never been so proud and relieved.
W sister
Sister a real one for that. Give her a high five from the interwebs.
@@WhoDWho thats how you know the friend is A LOW VALUE WOMAN
The real question is: did you bang the bestfriend?
Haha. Fabulous
The fact that you think a couple hundred dollars is a small date is ridiculous
Exactly
Bro I live in l.a. Spending $200 to go out is like nothing.
@joeythecloser1 I don't live in that dump prices are way to high there that's why 200 ain't nothing where I'm at 200 will get you a whole feast
@@joeythecloser1Bro, I have NEVER spent $200 on a woman in my life…if she is not impressed by you then chances are she’s “Not that into you” 😂
@@joeythecloser1 Yall live in yall bubble.. yall dont represent the country.... Most people $50 a good night
Girls like this are so quick to call dudes broke, when they cant even foot the bill themselves
Honestly they're worse...bc they often HAVE THE MEANS but WOULD NEVER...as if it is beneath them...honestly more disgusting
Often these are the types who are broke and in debt for shopping or they have payments on a car they can barely afford. If they look super made up and well dressed they’re probably not that well off and will become a financial liability.
There’s chicks I give a chance that are so not on my level financially, the first thing they try to do is see what they can get. I was nice to a fat girl I didn’t even like. I was just nice to her “TAKE ME TO THIS RESTAURANT!” It’s disgusting out here. I’m the quiet nerd type. I’ve never been asked out so much and certainly NEVER turned down so much in my life as this period.
I mean in many of these traditional type relationships.
The woman isn’t even expected to have money in the 1st place.
Most women can foot the bill but just don’t want to🤷🏽♀️
Baby girl, if you broke just say that!
*drizzle drizzle *
Grizzle Grizzle
DRIZZLE DRIZZLE
I don't understand why they would expect a man to pay Uber for them. They need to call that bear they're not afraid of.
grizzle grizzle
periodT
Ikr lmao
As a woman this is SO embarrassing! God forbid you pay for one meal. She sounds like the same type of woman who’d think she deserves to keep the ring if the engagement was called off. This is less about the money and more about her character. He dodged a bullet.
She is divorced for a reason
It's rage bait crap
Both sides of dating podcasts spend all their time saying the most stupid, sexist and toxic things about the opposite sex for rage farming.
Pitting men and women against each other for rage clicks and views.
I rarely ever see a man on some male centered dating podcast talk about women as human beings with feelings and I also rarely ever see a woman on some female centered dating podcast talk about men as human beings with feelings.
Just bitter miserable sexist individuals trying to cause men and women to hate one another for financial gain through rage farming. Slimy weseals.
Exactly. I don’t even go past a second date if the woman doesn’t pay for it when I paid for the first or if we’re not splitting bills. These women are single for a reason and you just ignore them.
She would collect rings like infinity stones
I once dated this gorgeous black woman. She seemed like she was feeling me. We flirted, she asked me sexual questions, yet everytime i would try to hangout in private she would make an excuse.
So after about a year into it, after like 10 dates, i tell her we got start splitting the bill.
She says " you are not a real man"
"That's not what a real man would say"
About 5 years ago while in college, I was invited to watch a movie by a colleague after we got off a practical class in the hospital. It wasn't a date, I was just there for the company because her friend didn't go to class that day.
This girl paid for the pizza and drinks while we were talking and waiting for the movie to start; although she wanted to pay for the tickets I had to go back home and study for a test, so she watched the movie by herself... it was the first time a girl ever did that to me and it felt special. We started dating 5 months later and this year we got married.
🎉👑 👑, king and queen 🎉
@joelstudyboy672 I hope she explained to you that she invited you. If you invite someone, unless you say go Dutch, the inviter should pay for the invitee. Ask her and I think she will tell you that of course she paid. She was the inviter.
Met a girl took her bowling when we got to the bar she blocked me from paying for the drinks when I ask “ what’re doing I got it “ “ she says no way you payed for bowling I’m paying for drinks” me and the bartender locked eyes 👀👀……. I married her ass six months later going 8 years strong having our first baby boy this September ✊🏾
That's dope bro, good for you 😌
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@@akkloando stop cursing its a sin dude
We love a success story❤
@@gregkareem9824I see you everywhere.. grow up
"It's ONLY 3 dates" 😁 when it's not your money spending
PREACH. ✊🏻
Exactly the excuses of a broke woman
right!? It turned from its only 3 dates, to a hyper-focus on one meal and them expecting it to be split PLUS spending probably 45 minutes talking about it.
"Its only 3 dates" - uh huh
@@byronrush9802 drizzle drizzle
words of a broke woman
A couple hundred dollars for a random 3rd date with basically a stranger is insanity!
I assume its women who in her circle who are making good money. Before I stopped doing this I would spend $100 one of the first couple of dates because $100 dollars was not a huge investment for me. Its all relative to how much you make.
@mrt094 $100 is literally nothing.
Doesn't mean I'm interested in paying $100 for some random person I don't know
@@mrt094 Those women earn millions. The one on the right is Joy Taylor from FS1; she's related to a Hall of Fame football player and everything. Girl's been around money her whole life.
@@solomonadjei758 That's why the reactions are so wild. Theyre well off women who can afford to pay for all the dates. Theyre literally human contradictions who espouse feminism and want chivalry in the same breathe.
Shiet that's damn near the minimum you'll spend for just drinks, dinner, and a movie for 2 ppl in Miami fl.
Men protect yourselves from exploitation at all times. Entitlement isn't wifely.
women can think like this if a wealthy man is the one asking them out.. If he leads with his wallet and says he is going to take her to some expensive place, women can get the idea this will be an ongoing thing...Women are the ones who become selfish if they only give a time of day to wealthy men...
What many women seem not to understand is that it’s not even about the money most of the time; it’s about the signal. “You can’t EVER do something for me?” Is a horrible feeling.
Right? It’s such a horrible feeling realizing that she was never on the dates for you, just what you can provide her.
Exactly. And these are the women a man who is experienced in dating watch out for the most I would say - They’re broke.
After I spend time with you (Spend money lol) and I never see you offer to pay for anything, you automatically are nothing but booty to me.
A truly believe a woman who knows a man will at least make the effort
It's like when a man does something nice for a woman and she's so happy and appreciative and then he's mad because he wanted sex in return, it's heart breaking actually. Do nice things for people because you want to, not because you want sex. Women like the one in the video that wants to be repaid, are fucked though. People in general need to start treating each other better. No wonder everyone is tired of "dating".
@@enchantressdch1207No, not the same thing. Because that man is spending his money, not her.
This is why I coach my friends on dating & having relationships, this is exactly how bad it’s become for men.
What I’ve noticed of women all my life (I’m 34), the ones who are about anything do not even hesitate to buy a man something
@@pleasedonttemptme5963BINGO SHE WILL LITERALLY STILL DO IT IF THE MAN SAYS NO
"His money is my money and my money is my money" mentally
Yep. I find it so strange that women, ESPECIALLY working women, think men should wine and dine them for many, many dates when dating. In particular, the early phase, when you aren't even sure you like each other. So we expect men to pay for 100s of dollars when going on the first few dates. It's an unrealistic and selfish mindset.
My boomer auntie literally made this joke (statement) last night during a family dinner at a restaurant. All the boomers laughed and I just fuckin facepalmed and shook my head. I lost respect for my auntie's new boyfriend for not pushing back on that.
I've had a girl say this to me and basically try to play it off as if she was joking... the entire relationship she acted on it. Be careful out here fellas set clear boundaries and let these women know you can easily leave to get someone more suitable for you.
Correct
My 6th grade girlfriend hit me with this and I’ve been giving side eye ever sense
It's not a man's duty to provide for a woman; it's a man's duty to provide for his family.
BARS
@@abiolaayinde754 can you elaborate?
@@robjohn6943a chick you’re dating is not your family. She’s just someone you are vetting with the potential to grow into family. Once you decide you want to share your life with her that’s when you start to take responsibility of protecting and providing for her and the children she bares you. Stop wasting money on women that are just for fun. Other guys are smashing for free🤷🏿♂️.
@@robjohn6943he’s agreeing with you.
FACTS
It’s not just about them not being grateful. We know that they aren’t grateful. The bigger problem is that they’re manipulative. They changed reality to make the man the bad guy and the woman the victim when that woman didn’t do anything right in the situation and the man didn’t do anything wrong. He paid for multiple dates, but they claim he’s out there scamming. How exactly does that work? She didn’t pay for anything, walked off Scott free after she got the bill, but they don’t even say anything about her being a freeloader. Again, how exactly does that work?
Questions we all need answers for😂
She did pay though. For the 3rd date. I don't agree with her but I'm just pointing out you missed that part?
These will be same women complaining about equality but can’t even go 50/50 on basic date without it being WW3.
@@bootsbooy and they have the audacity to call people narcissistic if they call them out on the behavior they have.
“They need guys like us so they can point their fingers and say look at the bad guy!!” -Tony Montana
My ex-wife, after a couple of years of being married, literally said, on multiple occasions, "I want to be worshipped" After I divorced her, one of the other women i dated told me the same thing. Stay as far away from woman that act like they are superior to others and believe they should be worshipped. They will only bring drama, pain and suffering.
Hope you didnt have kids from first.
Respect for valuing yourself and not kowtowing to the foolishness.
That's demon talk right there, wanting to be "like the Most High"... also stay away from women with childhood trauma, butterfly tattoos and the one's that when you argue always attack your masculinity and call you "little boy". I'm telling you that last one is a huge tell about what you are actually dealing with.
I would have told them, I don't worship anyone but GOD. 🤨
Disclaimer, I don’t like the idea of worshipping anyone…or being worshipped. respected and cared for is much butter.
But, Out of curiosity….what was her definition of worship?! Not yours, but hers?
Weaponized incompetence is one of the things that pisses me off the most in this world.
Especially when you know it's not really incompetence. Stay drizzle and frosty brother
Weaponized "I'm a girl"-ism
Not sure what you mean, but I guess when people act like their stupid and cant understand logic and this is used against you?
@@sinan-senceryes, it’s a strategy of getting others to the work for you. With “the work” being money, effort, time, commitment… the issue is two-fold the person knows full well they are capable of doing it themselves or are at least unwilling to try it or learn from taking effort/initiative. Hence, it’s weaponised as a tool against the other person. It’s like a husband saying “ooh I’m not good at washing dishes” 😂😂 men do this, woman do this, our parents or siblings or co-workers do this etc.
Well said
My best friend told me a story a couple years ago about how he was talking to a girl on FaceTime and they were trying to set up plans to meet up (This was someone he had matched with on a dating app) and she wanted him to take her on a helicopter ride over NYC for a FIRST date, which has to cost at least $200. That literally screams “I saw an instagram reel of this and this is now my expectation”. Mind you this girl was from Washington Heights so it’s not like she grew up with money and got these expectations from her parents.
Definitely some they seen on social media
That’s crazy that happened to me”you” , lol I mean your “friend” lol. 😜
You hear "dating journey" you'd better run tf away.
If I hear majestic wording for anything simply human or part of daily life, I instantly think headache.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If I hear "what's your sign" 🏃🏾♂️🏃🏾♂️🏃🏾♂️🏃🏾♂️
😂😂😂
WORD
12:37 "Some women mistake love with worship. That's not equality". GOLD!
round of applause for that one. FACTS.
Nailed it
CORRECT!
They know its worship. Ignore them.
I dated a girl for about 4 months. EXTREMELY selfish and entitled. I paid for the first two dates not to mention I bought her bday xmas and vday gifts for her. Things seemed to be going ok but I said I'm not paying for the third date. On the third date that Bill sat there forever because I wouldn't touch it. She wound up paying but was PISSED. She acted like she lost a leg by doing something for a guy. All i had was noodles, a glass of water and a drink and I wasn't worth that to her.
I date a woman right now who cancelled our date because she got sick and she cash apped me 25 dollars for lunch. She won alot of points with me for that
In the short 4 months you dated her all them holidays occurred??
@@09irishpridewhat special kind of stupid are you, seriously?
Yeah met in November her bday is in March. I blame myself because I met her thru mutual friends who told me she was a headache. I didn't think it was that deep but the more I got to know her I realized they weren't lying. Honestly the most delusional selfish person I've ever met. She said she was hurt two many times in the past so I'm treating her as if she just has trust issues and walls i needed to break down. After that incident on the third date that was pretty much it for me. I cut my losses and moved on. I don't blame her I blame myself for dealing with it and compromising so much for a selfish bitch. I KNEW better and went against my better judgement from the start
@@shawnbrown4485 well you learned from that experience, all you can do.
@@shawnbrown4485I'm happy for you bro ...dead ass....u got up outta there
No adult who wants to eat, shop or play should leave their home without any money! Assuming someone is going to pay for you is wild. I’m married and I don’t even assume my husband is going to pay for all our meals.
Isn’t the money into the same overall pot? While you each might have your own accounts, you’re both on the same team already overall. These women are still on their own teams.
@@antwanthorogood4921 yes, we have separate and joint accounts. We talk about what purchases are joint and then decide who wants to pay for things from our own accounts. No one will ever have a successful relationship or dating experience if they are selfish.
I like how she said he was scamming for meals because she paid for a date, completely ignoring the first two dates he paid for 🤦🏿♂️
They really don't hear themselves
Yeah it's amazing how that kind of gets stepped over and swept under the rug
I was looking for this comment 😂.
Those dates he paid for meant nothing to them,not all but definitely majority also look at a man that pays mortgage or rent the same way it means nothing,a lot of men don’t realize some women never pay rent ever they go from home to college and sometimes meet a guy in college or a grown man and move into his home where she won’t pay
Yeah I was hoping for a tinder swindler story, but no they attack some good guy!
If he was scamming then he wasn’t very good at it
"You don't wanna be loved. You wanna be worshipped." Those are some bars!
@KarlieStarrSings some will even deadass say that too...
modern woman
Preach doesn't always say much but when he does it's usually either funny as hell, a struggle to get his thoughts across in his third language or he preaches words as wise as Solomon.
Didn't get to that part yet but mmmmman... This echoed in my head after the last encounter I had.
@@bry_almighty stop cursing its a sin dude
Modern dating is such a joke these days. These hosts look shocked but I have no idea why. So entitled.
They need more hopeless men to mow their lawn, fix their roof, and women to settle down with these men.
They gaslight because they can't have regular people know how they're being played.
It’s just these kinds of women. Most women out there I’ve dated are normal. Don’t go for women who want to be a princess. I ignore these types just like I ignore the homeless
@UncleRuckus_96We go through it because we think we’re getting SOMETHING out of it. Even if it’s not immediately obvious.
@@grgryoceanOk that last part about ignoring the homeless is crazy
@@Kapt.Konsciousit's so out of pocket that you gotta laugh 😭
Every date me and my husband had id bring my own lunch to not stress him out since we were super young. Because I knew he paid for a train ride ticket prior for 2 hours to come see me and bring flowers. I always said thankyou for everythng because seeing him made my day. Overtime he did take on the provider role because he said he loves to take care of the people he loves and to prepare me for motherhood when i cant work as much. Since women stay pregnant for a year so we cant really work at all. I just love my husband, and supported him through everything. It came naturally, also realistically hispanics tend to be more traditional. But get rewarded for it and encouraged, since all the men in our family provide and respected majorly for it. To this day I love my husband for all that he does I still say thankyou when he buys me food and flowers.
there is still the under lying chameleonish vibe that you feel that is what he is supposed to do. ....ive seen women do some pretty active things while pregnant and single by choice so the 'at all' is pretty ridiculous. nice that you chipped in a bit though...we do appreciate when yall do
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love him for wat he does, i bet
of course that's ur meal card gotta love him either way
“It’s fine when we waste other guys money and time. But how dare they ask me to pay my own way!!!”
-Modern dating.
Modern and old dating
There ARE women who insist on paying for themselves. Unfortunately, that equalizes the power dynamic -- which is often a problem for one or both people.
@@pkp6791this is true. And it’s unfortunate how much respect and value women place on the money spent in a relationship. It doesn’t even feel like people wanna fall in love anymore. It’s like two lawyers going at it
@@Southforthewinter It isn't only women who create problems on this end. Lol! People ( and traditionally , it has been men) use the money they spend on dates as some sort of power leverage to get whatever they think they deserve for having spent ANYTHING. Going dutch, eliminates a lot of BS on both ends. BOTH sides need to be prepared to accept what going dutch means-- that NO ONE has leverage or a right to anything.
They really are trying to instill that they are more valuable and they WILL tell you that you need to pay for her time.
Jeezus christ. He paid for 2 amazing dates, got FORBID you pay for 1 date. Ladies please stop this nonsense.
not only that but she had the nerve to ask him to retroactively pay her back. it's all kinds of cringe
Watch these kind of ladies lose their minds if the roles were reversed.
Uhhh traditional women don’t pay for dates esp in the very beginning however what’s corny about her is that she asked for money back after paying. Paying for a date is essentially a gift unless you’re transactional.
She failed the 3 date rule, auto rejection.
@@FEEKAP 🤣 You think either one of those women are "traditional"?
I dated a girl for about 2 months. By the 4th date I’m thinking “Is this girl ever going to reach for her purse?”
After a month of paying for literally everything I’m thinking “How did I get into this situation? Am I living in the 1800’s?”
I also did a lot of free graphic design for her because I wanted her to succeed. T-shirt design, logo, book cover etc…After each design she’s say “Oh thank you. I’m going to take you out for a thank you dinner.” I waited about 3 weeks for this elusive dinner she promised. Meanwhile I’m still paying for everything.
One day I finished a design for her and she said thank you. I said “That’s OK. You can pay for dinner tonight.” She looked confused. Later when we went out I asked for the bill. When it was placed in front of me I just slid it over to her side without a word.
She was flabbergasted. As she reached fr her purse, she had the gall to say “Usually it’s polite to wait for someone to offer to pay.” I had to bite my tongue to stop replying “Bitch, I’d be waiting till hell freezes over before you’d offer. I’m still waiting for this mysterious “Thank you dinner:. If I was to charge you for all the design I’ve done your bill would be about $5000.
I dumped her after 2 months after I’d had it up to here (hand raised way above my head).
The crazy thing is at the end of our very first date I said something like “I think you’re a very cool chick. I’d love to do this again.” She replied with “Cool woman. I’m not a “chick”. I thought “Oh, she has some feminist tendencies enough to do a bit of language policing.”
Funny how that feminism was thrown out the window whenever the bill arrived.
Good riddance king 🤌🏿✨✨✨
@@thecrunchycenter1206 stop cursing its a sin dude
Feminism is always thrown at the window when it’s reversed on the men
She would’ve did that to you for the rest of your life if you married her 😢
@@ladellmimms facts if the 2nd or date ahead isn’t reaching for her purse you should drop her like a bad habit
As a woman, I am super confused by their reaction, as well as POV! If he paid for the two previous dates & the woman DID NOT pay for anything, where in her mind is it making sense that he pays 1/2 of their last date?????🤔 Especially when she didn’t split the first two?? These ladies were genuinely shocked by the man’s response and I am just like 🤣 Maybe the girl was butt hurt the guy didn’t want to see her any further…? 🤷🏽♀️ I actually find it hilarious he sent her the receipts for the first two dates! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Right?? My response to him sending her the receipts for the first two dates was “good for him!”
It’s like there is no thought or consideration given to men and their money. What happened to all that woman equality?? 😂 smh
I appreciate men who are chivalrous; however, I do not expect him to pay for every date or everything we do together. You need to show your appreciation by at least offering to pay and being prepared to do so.
There's a channel named Hoe Math which will explain all this very clearly.
Hold that frame: she's ready for this site colloquially referred as hub. Obviously all she'll ever be good for.
Same. I do not know of any woman that pulls this crap. Also, I think the dude was seriously put off by her which is why her sent receipts for the dates.
@@forgipper Unless the guy is very good looking, he has to lead with money and tell a bunch of BS promises etc to get with a woman also making bank.. If the guy is leading with money, the woman expects the guy to pay on dates. Not that hard to figure out
As a European y’all’s dating culture and expectations is stressful honestly 💀
Edit: I also remember a few videos back people were saying that you shouldn’t accept coffee dates or hikes coz you’re settling or something but it’s so relaxing and regarded as nice where I’m from, the difference it’s wild xD
That's exactly why I want to move there lol
📝 go to Europe. Thank you for the insight
OML TY!! And just curious, what’s the dating culture like in Europe?? I’d like to know as an American (get me out of here please😀)
Exactly! Another European girl here, you know how much of a joke this is to us :D I had the best date with a guy who bought us coffee to go, we sat by the river and spent the next million hours getting to know one another, which is kinda the point of the dates? lol this whole culture in the west is so uptight and rigid to me, kills the whole vibe.
No we dont go on hikes cause men like to play games and “joke” and leave women strabded, lie about how long the hike ir or assault them.
She wanted bottle service but, hated paying for bottles.
Ngl tho buying bottles is a scam lol
@@justifano7046 not vs by the glass
These women are delusional. The guy paid for 2 dates, and they are saying he scammed for a meal because the woman paid for 1 date
Exactly! Per their logic, the lady scammed for the first 2 dates. They are way off! 😂
Most Women are objectively stingy and selfish. When they call Men broke dusties, they're projecting.
That's because they take classes on TikTok to learn how to scam a free meal from a different man every night of the week, so they assume we have the same mindset
Most women are delusional. The sooner you learn that the better.
I was so confused! I was like he spent more money on you anyway, and somehow, HE scammed YOU??! Make it make sense
Had he not decided to stop dating her and continued seeing her she would’ve been fine. Facing rejection she was bitter and expected to be reimbursed. Him flipping it and using her flawed logic to say well “if that’s how it is well you owe me for your half of the first two dates” was just too much for her. That makes too much sense for her and many women to comprehend.
Women: I’m not your mom don’t expect me to take care of you like she does.
Also Women: Finance my entire lifestyle and spoil me like my dad does and maybe just maybe I will grant you the royal privilege of my physical presence.
Trust me not all women are like that. I'm sorry if that's the type you keep running into.
Been there, done that.
And I left her azz right there with her daddy!
@@dontpeonymmmmmm cope lots of them act like this not all tho......
@@gregkareem9824lmao bro lots of them don’t act like that if a woman really rocking with you she will give you anything you ask for 😂
@@gregkareem9824Lots?
Ive never dated or been in a relationship with a woman who acted like that.
In fact, i can only think of two women ive ever known, with those expectations.
One was actually pretty funny, she will say "it took me years to remove my gag reflex. That along with the fact that i never spit....... i get what i want".
Let me get this straight. So he paid for two whole dates. Covering both him and her. Then she pays for both of them on the third date. She feels a type of way about that, and turns around to ask him to pay her back for his portion of the third date, and these to nuts think that seems fair?! His response of sending her the split portion on their first two dates is exactly the type of response you send to a woman like that. He knows she is not going to pay him, but that's how you end a relationship with someone that behaves like that.
Some jedi mind trickery there 😏
You can say you like being used it's ok we won't judge......... But I WILL
@@JordanDragonAs Lol, The two nuts I speak of are the two women. Read my comment again. I said old dude had the "exact response that that woman deserved".
Let me play devil's advocate.
She asked him to split AFTER he said there would not be a 4th date. Maybe that influenced her reaction?
I am not saying I agree but if that was the case then was that third date in actual date in her mind?
@claytoncourtney1309 Yet her entitled mind didn't think about the fact that he also paid for the previous two dates. He wasn't getting his money back either so it was fair. Hell she lost less than him considering she only paid for one date. Doesn't matter what she thought abt the date
The being appreciative thing really brought me back...
Had a roommate when I lived in my first apartment, and during the summer months we would go to the local cool coffee place to see people we know and have some joe. We were young, we were fairly broke, and this as an activity that didn't cost too much.
I had a car, and he did not.... which meant when we went somewhere, it was me that was driving. I never asked for gas money, but a thank you every now and then was nice. He started pulling things like asking if I wanted to go for coffee, and then on the way there, asking if we could make a could stops because he wanted to drop off a couple of resumes at a couple of places on the way there. Then when he had dropped off his resumes and we were ready to finally go for coffee... he would look at his watch and say it's actually not that long until he has to head to work and he needed to head back and get ready.
After the third or fourth time pulling something like that I let him know I was moving out. I had no problem in doing someone a favor or two... just come to me and ask me... but the entire mind game of it, and the insult to my intelligence like I don't realize what he as doing. Fuck that. People that play these kinds of selfish mind games and gaslight people, are ejected from my life immediately.
I understand how you feel. I rcectnly had conversations with family about omitting information when communicating and then expecting me to figure out what they need. It's something that shouldn't be tolerated as critical thinking human beings.
The thing I love about this channel is how much you guys talk about virtues. When I used to watch redpill content (a few years ago now, damn time flies), and even now when I watch other UA-camrs comment on pop culture issues it always kinda seems like something's missing and I think it's because they don't talk about virtues at all. Like of course we should act this way and there's a right way to act but why? And I think the why can be found in the virtues that you guys mention so often, i.e. being chivalrous, graceful, patient, kind, merciful, honest, ect. It's like our society has moved so far away from these things that they forgot what they are and why we need them
At 1:37 the full quote from Joy before it gets cut off is:
"There's no possible way he thinks that she's just paying for his presence"
This is where their heads are at. They don't think of dating as a means for two individuals to get to know each other and form a connection. They are quite literally saying "my time is more valuable than yours will ever be to me"
Disgusting...
Ghouls
They're all bopasauruses
@@R1pTheJacka great catch 🤔 I missed that
why also being driven by materialism
"Strong, Independent, Boss babe money maker" until the bill comes to them.
How do you think they makin that money?
to be fair, you are only providers until the bill comes. both sides seem to be confused these days.
@@ST-rj8iunah, what's funny about your comment is even you know it's BS. Men know we have to pay for dates. This wouldn't even still be a conversationif 99% of men weren't paying.
@@SBdunk1987 men are not paying for dates all the time. women split the bill plenty. my comment isn't BS. If you are such natural providers than pay the bill every time. If you knew, why is this a problem? At this point, many women don't care anymore.
They think boss babes means they can afford their own bills. Lol that's the bare minimum women!
"We want equal pay... but we also expect men to pay"
So? What do we learn?
They have equal pay. They just refuse to do many jobs men do. The uneven pay is due to not following the same career paths, but the toxic ones don't want to hear it
Aba speaking some truth. I don’t pay for a date because “I’m a man”. I pay for the date because I asked you to come and do the stuff I wanted to do. I take it even one step further. If I’ve taken you out 2 or 3 times, and you haven’t offered to take me out and come up with an idea for a date I take it as you are not interested and I’m wasting my time. Relationships only work if both people are involved and are putting forth effort. Period.
Broke women seeking money from dates ...
Usually but these two have money, both have ESPN contracts & 1 has a HOF NFL player as a brother. They not broke, they're women 😂
Dusty brokies.
She did the same shyt these guys do when the woman says they no longer wanna date. These new men will be like oh well send me my half for the date - we see social media posts on this all the time 😂😂😂
@@WakandaSmurf If it's true, then they sure advanced in life by sucking on some nutts and being very stingy.
@@WakandaSmurfTheir mouth and knees must be in a lot of pain. Since neither of them seem to have any skill or value once so ever
Italy here. Nobody I know, man or woman, would ever accept a restaurant as first date.
Not only do you lock yourself in a three-hour situation you can't get out of with someone you basically don't know, but you're also burdening yourselves with a ton of expectations and a whole narrative that bespeaks of marriage. That's cringy as hell.
An ice-cream to go and a walk in the park is a perfectly fine first date.
lies detected
3 hours my God haha
Most consider coffee or a drink as low effort
Definitely not the mindset here. Coffee dates, ice cream dates, etc woman call low effort or cheap here. They're more worried about where they're going than enjoying getting to know someone
Don't worry the western mentality will get there eventually
I asked a man on a date, hes ten yrs older than me and conservative where i am liberal. We went to lunch and i paid, he was very adament about paying. I told him that i invited him and didnt expect him to pay. He told me that was the first time a woman ever paid for a date. I was shocked, ive paid for plenty of dates and see nothing wrong with it.
He votes for people that want to take all your rights away because you are a woman. Remember that.
Blessings
W woman, sweetness all around
Why are you asking your dad on a date instead of asking somebody your age that's weird who used to groom you when you were a child to make you think that's normal
Seems like you paying for dates is not working out or doing what you intend for it to do. Since you have paid for multiple dates and think nothing is wrong with it. You sound like a “pick me”. Let the man be the man and you be the woman. It is okay if you pay for a date if you see it going somewhere but off top is just giving trying to hard. Have any of these men asked to be exclusive with you or to marry you??? Time to switch it up.
I'm a man and I'm super happy I'm not single because of these type of women.
Before I met my wife there two different female friends that I was interested in and was upfront about it (at separate times).
Used to go on lunch dates with them and always paid and they would always say they will treat me the next time but never did. It also didn't progress into anything beyond occasional hanging out.
When I realized they were just using me for free food I phased the dates out but still remained friends.
But the kicker was, after I started dating my wife and it was publicly known that I was in a committed relationship, they both mentioned to me that they miss our lunch dates and we should do it again sometime.
I just laughed.
If these women are broke why don't they just say so before the date. Then a man knows what to expect. Double Drizzle.
Come paying, don’t bring the attitude or you getting left with a bear. Drizzle Grizzle.
The tragedy is these women are not broke. They just want you to spend your money, they get to keep theirs. Lol
The escort buisness must be booming
Some of them be dead broke no lie
Drizzle times two 😂
When my husband was studying for his rheumatology specialisation I used to make 4 to 5 times more money than him. We lived in my place, I paid for almost all food and bills for the first two and a half years we were together. Now he’s on the path of being a millionaire. He showers me with gifts and trips now but most importantly - he showers me with love and warmth. A relationship is building a team. And teamwork is what moves us forward. If she don’t want to spend money on her loved one, what is she even doing??
Kudos to you and your husband, and may you last this and all the lifetimes.
Modern women look at men as a come up, or a benefit…
Do you want the Warren Buffet medal for having done such a good trade? That wasn't a selfless act, that was an investment 😂
Now that's what I'm talking about respect and recognition hold your happiness queen an respect to your man a true gentleman remembers an responds with the same live he received
ur just lucky
Gotta love the way the broad says guys are doing the same thing, scamming for meals, after he paid for 2 of the dates, and the woman tried to split the third. I'm glad my dating days are over.
It’s just these women. They’re gonna either be alone or in toxic relationships that won’t last. Most women I’ve dated are normal.
@@grgryocean not just that OCEAN ... they gonna sh////t out kids for baby daddys at 31 onward and live off the child support IF THEY GET A SUCKER
I peeped that too like that's what y'all think scamming for meals is?? 😂😂😂 The LEDUSION IS SO THICK U CAN CUT IT WITH A BUTCHER KNIFE🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
he got accused of scamming for being scammed 😂😂
When she was saying that, I literally didn't know what she was talking about as the woman was actually scamming for meals. LOL, thanks for the clarification, which was just saying how disgusting she was.
Wait... So men can pay no problems asked 80% of the time... But a woman pays 20% and expects reimbursement at the same time.... 🤔 I see.
There was a woman I went on four dates within two weeks.
First date: I drove 30 miles to where she lived to pick her up, paid for dinner, paid for drinks, drove her home. (she offered to pay I declined)
Second date: Exactly the same. (she again offered to pay, I declined)
Third date: Picked her up, paid for dinner and a movie and drinks, dropped her off. (she once again offered to pay and I declined)
Fourth date: Lunch date - she offered to pay her share and I agreed. So we split. She literally ghosted and blocked me after this date. I later found out it's because she had to pay for her lunch.
I spent over $500 in two weeks in this woman. But her paying $20 was just too much... 😅
This was about 8 years ago. Since then I've gotten married and have a child on the way. She's still single, posting lonely Instagram posts bashing men...
She wanted to look good by offering 💀 im tired of people
Bullet Dodged 😂
You got the good ending she didn't lmao
I would just give some advice, but you're married with child, so you're okay now. I would just say, don't do 4 dates in two weeks. She's not that interested. That's called a meal ticket. That's called attention-seeking. $500 after 4 dates says a lot. I mean, food and entertainment, probably some gifts. It's just too much.
You paid $125 per date, for the first 4. Wtf... hope she put out bro!
I think Preach has made a very valid point. The lack of gratitude is a huge issue in our society. We don't bother saying thank you, or recognizing the kindness that comes our way. This is very obvious in this video, and in these women, but it is very much a larger problem.
Good point! Folks really be thinking that they deserve things,
Agreed, and in my current relationship we make it a point to thank each other for what we've done throughout the day.
Thats why starting off with coffee dates is always safe...for both parties
Most women won't accept coffee dates, and most women don't want to pay for any man 😮💨🥱🤣
"Most american women "@@DucktheMe
For me, I work out at a nice place in the park. It hits multiple points. 1. Check on natural beauty 2. Attitude and work ethic check 3. No money spent on a dud 4) sets a tone 5) gets the fires going because the world is cold and you are encouraging and saying “good job” while stirring up endorphins. Get some gloves and pads, it makes dates fun.
I prefer drinks. Coffee feels so friendship and it’s harder to build connection in my experience. Coffee always feels like an interview in my experience. My 2c because maybe I’ve never had luck with coffee
@@grgryocean you can choose whether or not you want to be engaged in a conversation with someone. Whether or not food or drink is in front of you doesn't make a difference 💀💀💀
Thanks!
That the definition of standing on business 👏🏾👏🏾
I love equality!
@@Diamondr11Blue 0:23 What's 😅 is next?
I met my wife 9 years ago over a coffee date, she was 22 and I was 25. Now I'm 34, I pay for almost everything, once in awhile she buys delivery or the drinks or w.e. but at the end of the day we go to OUR home and live together with our expensenses. The mindset I get from these ladies is they never had any intention on a long term thing, they're focusing on trivial stuff when in the bigger picture it's all coming out of your relationship together. They don't seem like they're planning to contribute to a joint venture.
A coffee date is acceptable for early 20s year olds. Not when you have yourself together and are in a different stage in life.
@@tjaspire Restraunts are full of people who don't get paid much and have unhealthy food so in a stage you have yourself together in you shouldn't go to those places either.
@@JaydenHolland-wo4fdtell me you are american without telling me you are american
@@tjaspire it s fine anytime. It literally confirms that the other person is not a psycho.
Unfortunately too many people are looking for someone that is there meeely to give give give with no expectations from her in return and it literally blows my mind. Most of these women don’t want a man to share their lives together they want a Dad with none of the rules. They want “Dad” that gives them everything for free, unlimited money and all the freedom to do, say and act however they want to act and honestly it’s yucky. I’m sure there’s lots of red flags but I tell any guys I’m friends with that ones of the biggest red flags involves the wedding. If it’s her wedding or her day that’s all about her that shits a red flag. Weddings aren’t just about the bride. There is a bigger focus on the bride which could be for a variety of reasons I think sometimes it has to do with the fact that women care more about the details of the wedding compared to most men but the bride isn’t the only one getting married. Weddings aren’t about one person and it annoys me so bad when women make it all about them. I feel like I can say this without as much backlash since I am a women but I’ve called out as many women as I’ve seen. Sorry Bethany but no the wedding day isn’t just about you. A wedding is about both the bride and the groom. It’s about 2 people joining their lives together AND their families. Too many women want a wedding for outlandish and selfish reasons. Too many women care more about the wedding than they do about their marriage and that shit never made sense to me.
Your wife sounds reasonable because I’ve seen way too many women online complain about coffee dates which I also don’t understand. Why does a man have to spend a shit ton of money on someone they often barely know. Shit always was weird to me. I think coffee, ice cream and other simple dates like that are great because it gives people the chance to get to know each other better and be able to enjoy each others company without potentially added stress and pressures. I encourage everyone to trust your intuition and look for those red flags. Everyone is going to have some selfishness within themselves but they shouldn’t only be thinking about only themselves.
A woman is either an asset or liability. Choose wisely gentlemen.
90% are boat anchors
@@THX5000 Dead weight indeed
Majority will make you poor or dead. Irresponsible people exist and they are often found in women.
@@THX5000married men are the biggest tricks 😂😂😂
Honestly that’s for any partner, the wrong partner will fuck your whole life up.
You'll see the difference between someone who want love and someone who want a sponsor
You can see exactly why a lot of women are single in their 30s. 🤦🏽♂️😆
No, life as a single person is better than with the wrong partner...The wrong partner can really bring down...That is why people are single...Would you prefer to be single or marry one of those women from the video?
@@linapesz313 what you said doesn’t refute my point at all. Also, you automatically went to the negative scenario where the person you chose is the “wrong” partner & they brought you down. There are billions of people who have chosen the “right” partner or get married for reasons beyond personal happiness like the betterment of society. They don’t subscribe to your way of thinking, so understand that what you’re saying isn’t universal law.
@@Skywalker721 we were talking why women in their 30s prefer to be single.....and you did not answer the question...Would you prefer to be single or date one of the women from this video?
What? You sound dumb and bitter as hell because where did the age range come from? Yall ninjas need to understand it's not the end of the world being a single adult or something is wrong with you. Meanwhile a lot of people are in toxic, and unhealthy relationships because they can't enjoy their own company. Go have a seat somewhere pls😅
@@linapesz313bruh lmao that's cap
These are children stuck in grown woman's bodies.
Say that again. No cap 🧢
This is embarrassing to all the dating women out there.. expecting a stranger to become your immediate provider is 🤯.
She mistook being independent for being in dependency
It aint about the 3rd meal its about what he said. "You cool but I don't see a future"...
thats it
Prime example of the behavior that led so many men to the question of "what do women bring to the table". So many women genuinely don't understand that they are acting selfish and entitled
No, they understand it perfectly they just don't care and believe they hold the right to waste men's time and money.
Some men but not many. Majority of men are still a bunch of suckers who are being used for free expensive meals by women who don't respect him. At least in the US. European men are not that beta.
calling that a woman would implicate she is mentally grown up as well...at least to me that is....those are big girls :s
@@theezenriarinze9203 ya sounds about right from a typical modern day woman in America low quality 304 and useless
Any man who asks, "What do you bring to the table?" Is immediately getting left. Such a turn-off.
“Many (women) mistake love for worship” BARS!!! I’m stealing that quote 🔥🔥🔥 Edit: Shout out from Montana by way of Port au Prince.
Big bar
Big Drizzle
Too true, got a mate like this as well, his relationships never work out cuz he gets girls that are crazy and obsessed w him, loves the intial worship/lovebombing then gets bored
I paid for my registered nurse wife to come to America. It wasn't cheap and took 3.5 years. She eventually got a six figure job and petitioned her mother to immigrate. My knee got worse and wife made me retire early. Now they both take care of me. They're loving it. It's going to be hard to find a good one in this social media age. But you could have better chances if you exercise your passport.
Nice picture.
Coming from a community who did passport for decades, they end up being 50/50 stories. People also see access to a country they couldn't before
Glad things worked out so well for all 3 of you! Stay blessed and enjoy a lovely life together.
fuck, that shit is pathetic. 150 million women in america and you have to go pay for one? I know its getting more common, but it is pathetic as hell. To each their own, I guess, but know you are weak to the core. you can still enjoy life, but understand how you are perceived.
@@TheFaro2011 I've only been aware for the last 17 years. It appears to me that the success rate is about between 65% and 70%.. And most of the men who divorced still feel like they're better off than if they would have married someone from the West.. almost all of them leave the relationships with more confidence that they can start over at any age.
She really said "Dudes are out here scamming for meals too." 😂😂😂
"That's our stuff" energy
Selfishness is such an unattractive trait in any person.
Even the bears are demanding compensation. Grizzle grizzle
Cmon man!! 😂😂😂
Lmao
Nah😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Diabolical🤣🤣
Keep in mind, Joy Taylor is divorced and had a failed engagement with an NBA coach
LMAOOOOOO
If she was a SM she would be perfect for them to get wisdom off of.
Oof
All these dating podcasts hosts are divorced men and women with several failed relationships under their belt. The men and women they get with find out what type of individual they are and leave them and then they start a podcast showing why their ex partners left them
The people who actually take them seriously make me laugh.
It's like getting fitness advice from a lazy overweight slob or financial advice from a person who sold their house and now is homeless because of a gambling addiction
Why do some people fall for these dating failures for advice? If anything is to learn from these dating podcasts hosts (The male hosts too) is NOT to be like them.
It just comes off as "If I can't be happy in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex.. THEN NO ONE CAN"
@alejandronopasanada5302 what's an SM?
Here is what people don't seem to understand. People want to feel love. The same way a man shows his love by taking their woman out to a dinner/on dates whatever. Is also the same woman can show love too. Are there going to some guys who take that as a jab to their masculinity having a woman want to pay for date? Sure, but most dude would be very grateful and it shows that your not looking at him like he is just bag of money for you to take from. This is even more refreshing now a days because there are a solid amount of women who think they're entitled to dates, clothes, purses and so on provided by men and they don't think they have to do anything at all return for it. That its a privilege to even be the same room with them. So finding a woman that shows she appreciates at you all would feel very nice.
That's why I always say if women really like and respect you, they will pay for you because they hate paying for men. If she doesn't pay or suggest to pay, you know where you stand. Move on! Drizzle Drizzle
It’s true. Every single woman that actually liked me, paid for me.
The entitled ones that EXPECT it always end up stringing me along forever.
You can’t just be any guy though for her to pay. She has to really like you
You are absolutely spot on. This has been my experience as well.
Facts. I’ve had chicks invite me out, pay for the date and basically ask me back to her place just for some D
If they like you and/or see potential with you they are willing to pay!
@@rationalmale6265same !
It’s called “ I’m beautiful so I’m entitled” .
Yes
They're not even beautiful. They're caked with make up
It’s called you keep acting like that. You can get dropped right back off at home with the kids meal since you want to act like a child.
I don’t give a shit she could be Beyoncé. I don’t care.
we dont know if shes beautiful honestly. all we know is that she can draw well on her face...its not like you could make a solid guess about how she looks underneath.
I don’t even see the problem whatsoever. She wasted his time.
I think it's because he broke up with her. She subsequently had a change of heart.
Would she still ask to split the bill if he was still dating her? 🤔
fact he pay for both date and she mad he trick her into pay fort he third date, I bet he knew he knew he was going have to pay for the third date, and decide to trick her like female like this used guys all the time and when a guy used her they act like the victim
I am a woman and here is my two sense : Paying is a gesture of respect, and showing enjoyment for the company!! Pleaseeeeee women, pay for the man you are out with !!!! Not on a first date, but definitely after that !! It’s just a sign of respect!! Grow the F**%* up !! It scares me that these are the women giving advice.
I once dated a guy who was very honest about his financial situation and it made me happy to contribute, as it meant we could go out and be together. It’s JUST money !!!
My wife and I adopted a 50/50 split since shortly after starting dating as we both worked full time and made pretty equivalent pay, and if either of us fell behind or had a change of job or what have you, the other would support to keep us whole. Five years later we are married, we custom built a house last year, and just had our first kid. We just recently bought my wife her dream SUV, and she only has to work three days a week right now because I’m now making great money and she would prefer to have more days at home with our daughter… A marriage that operates as an equal partnership is the way to go, and you go exponentially further when both halves work together towards your common goals, instead of one half pulling the entire load. My wife says she feels bad for women like this who will never experience the benefits of a healthy equal partnership because they’d rather adhere to archaic “traditional” values that have no place in this era.
Ironically enough you still ended up in a traditional situation.
@@JT-bt6jyYea it’s funny too, but he is right, traditional methods have no say in today’s dating given how women act
You make great money, built a custom house, she got her dream car and gets to work or stay home as she chooses and she’s happy?
You don’t say.
Yeah but she put her labour into you. Now imagine she had the kid, no marriage ,worked the same hours and no SUV. That's what women want to see can happen and that's a partnership.
@@thejoatmoo I know you’re trying to throw shade but you’re missing the point. We struggled together for 5+ years, both working full time jobs and second jobs, sometimes with her bringing in most of the money while I was essentially a paid intern. There were years where we couldn’t afford to exchange gifts at Christmas or for bdays or we didn’t go out to eat and she cooked every night so we could save money. She never complained at all, and from the jump she never EXPECTED any of the things that are possible for us today to be necessary for her to be with me. We worked hard as fuck to get to this point where we can afford to live the lifestyle that we want, which just so happens to include the fact that she doesn’t have to work as much. Doesn’t bother me at all. I am very passionate about my work and happy to be the bread winner now. She is very passionate about motherhood, and she supported me so that I could pursue and excel at what I’m passionate about, so now it’s her turn to do what she is passionate about, and nothing makes me happier to see her at home, raising our daughter. Yes, we have arrived at a traditional end game scenario, as someone else mentioned, but the path here was anything but “traditional”. The women in this video couldn’t fathom having our scenario as a reality. They’d never support their man like that.
DRIZZLE DRIZZLE BABY 😂😂
What is this Drizzle , Drizzle expression?
Beat me to it. I'm in my sassy era baby. 😂😂
DRIZZLE DRIZZLE
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Drizzle Drizzle
She knew she wasn't into him on sight, it doesn't take three dates to know you're not into someone
Eh... sometimes it does
He was the one that called it, though….. she said nothing about not being into him.
its was the guy atleast listen to the story
@@TB-jj7ri alright if it does then we can go on the walk to the park so that way I don't waste any money.
@gregkareem9824 Fantastic. What's your point?
We need an update on this video!
Fair is fair. Entitled is entitled and selfish is selfish. This is crazy. Majority of the general public doesn’t think this way and it’s insane to me that the ones who do get a platform. It’s wild!!
Idk, the majority of women I encounter, even in my family, are exactly like this.. not all, but about around 80% .. 🤷🏽♂️💯💯
@@acephalos5026ye and the majority for me isn’t
independent woman but the man gotta pay half.
Even bears wouldn't put up with this. Grizzle grizzle.
Polar polar
I love when women say that men use weaponized incompetence like they haven’t been doing that for all of human history
Women generally speaking don’t tell the truth amongst themselves so what make you think they will see how incompetent they are, while there are some that know they’re incompetent but because society caterer woman they can make it out. If a man incompetent he is outcasted if roles reversed there making millions selling nudes etc
Say what again. No cap 🧢
Yes! They opted out of hard work for literally thousands of years until offices were safe, pleasant air conditioned environments with swivel chairs and coffee machines and then some how blame men for oppressing them 😂
He made such a good point with the fact that these women have the means to pay for things and just don't? I've been with my boyfriend for a little over 2 years now. When we were both in high school I always offered to drive, gas money, to buy him food, I would always always offer because that's just what you do when you love someone. It doesn't have to be something luxurious like a $200 dinner bill, hangers when they buy clothes and don't have enough anymore, their favorite food when they have a bad day, a gift when you see it and it reminds you of them. Now I'm in college so I'm absolutely broke as a joke and it makes me feel terrible that I can't always afford things on my own. However, when I do get money, he is still one of my top priorities and I always think of him when I make decisions on things. We are still very young and just becoming adults, so there is no excuses for grown women like this to not comprehend something as simple as this. It's simply self-centeredness and selfish behavior.
She turned him into a feminist.
He was ready to pay 100%.
He was happy with paying 66.66%.
She didn’t like that and asked for him to pay another 16 or 17%.
Then he thinks “Hey, you know what’s fair? 50%. Let’s go.”
Is being a feminist wrong when it alleviates any preconceived notion that the other person owes you something when you pay? Never understood this thought pattern.
@@johndoe1274 your mistake is youre trying logic and reason on people who're NOT sane. since there just is no possibility for a sane adult person to come to the conclusion that someone OWES them sex. and any insane person can just make up the most illogical bullshit reason to come to the conclusion that you owe them sex. 98% of guys are mostly fine dudes and wouldnt ever come to the conclusion that someone owed them sex. so feminism is completely useless bc it goes completely past the point. 1 kind of guy already knew how to act before feminism got big the last 10 years and the other kind of guy is so lost that you could never change his views.
sorry english is my second language and complex sentences sometimes are just a pain in the ass x)
@@Foatizenknechtl stop cursing its a sin dude
@@johndoe1274 Feminism makes life harder for women and easier for men in this economy. But Men don't like it because of what comes with feminism and how it's impacted society in other ways, aka the crazies.
No the fuck its not@@gregkareem9824
Well, me as an old hag from East Germany, I don't get all that courting thing. Don't you really want to get to know the person that you go on a date with? Or is it simply that the guy (or girl) can pay all your bills? Why does it always have to involve an entire 5 star dinner with all the shenanigans? Actually, think courting is a thing of the middle ages gone looooooong time ago. If I want to go on a date with someone and I suggest it, it's on me. Unless there was some other type of agreement beforehand. Easy! IMO this dude did the right thing, and she showed him his true colours.
I agree with you. Unfortunately I think so many women these days are looking for someone who takes care of them financially but also worships them in some weird way. I’m from America but I’m in my mid 30’s and so most of the women I know are more on my end of things. We just wanted a man that would be kind, love us, be faithful and a man of their word to the best of their ability. I don’t understand what the crap is happening these days but it’s absolutely wild. Seems like most women these days aren’t looking for a husband they a looking for a parent that will allow them to do whatever they want without saying no.
@@SandyFmeyer in the video that they made she said the guy planned the date so I can see where she's coming from
Alot of American women are after resources only.
💯. Whoever reached for the bill first pays. If the reaching is one sided, runnnnnn 🏃
@@SandyFmeyer wow can't even post a comment without you tube taking it down.
Alot of American women are after resources only.
The fact she asked him to split the bill after he didn’t want to see her again is wild. And then for them to say he was in the wrong for refusing is wilder. Then to call him scamming?!
She should definitely take him to court…
@@grgryocean I know you trolling lol
He wasn't exactly refusing, he was saying we should split all three and settle the difference.
The two women didn't seem to get that though.
@@Valen-mh9fh that’s still dumb. If you go on a few dates and it doesn’t work out. Both parties should just walk away. Trying to go back recoup money is insane. If you need that money back you shouldn’t be dating
That’s not what happened. Her card was placed down for an event and he ran up a big ass tab
Damn!!! This didn't age well for Joy Taylor! You guys were right on target!
I mean...she started it. So he finished...that's fair lol
The first date I went on with my now husband I paid for everything. Every other date I ever went on with a man I have always paid for my half. For better or worse my father taught me that nothing in life is free, everything comes at a cost and you pay your fair share. I absolutely never wanted anyone to feel like I owed them anything more than a pleasant date. I’ve continued this concept into my married life. My husband and I contribute proportionately to the household financially and we have never had any financial problems in our 16 year relationship.
I like that you understood that nothing is free, and you paying your fair share in life. It’s crazy that people will feel like someone has to do things for them, but will get mad because they expect something back
@@Che-vn6vu I agree. It’s absolutely a foreign concept to me that anyone owes me anything or I should be taking free things from people without any expectation.
It’s incredibly obvious this is her and not her friend she’s talking about.
Yes, a lack of gratitude is not attractive in anybody
I was actually talking to my girlfriend about this recently. In relationships everyone talks about how important open communication is, being able to forgive one another, being a good listener but I hardly hear people bring up being grateful. Saying “Thank you” and showing appreciation through actions goes a long way. People get burnt out when they’re doing the most but they get crumbs in return.
The double walk off on "I left it at home" LMAO!!!!!
Even I walked off!
As a guy who got scammed about 300$, fock'em.
One of my red flags in dinner meetings like that.
I always talk before paying about the wages of the waiters, and I pay for the meal.
I wait a few seconds to see if the other party offers to pay for the tip to the waiters, if not I pay a larger tip than usual and even then wait for a response.
If there is no response, a desire to participate in the tip at least, or the response on this matter, there will be no further meeting
😂 The Boondocks reference! Only the real ones know 😅
People call you Chris Hansen
But I call you Chris Handsome...
I like ya and I want ya 😂
More like real life reference
I’mmmmmm a WARRIAH!
Ya see I like ya, and I want ya
People often say “if they invited you out they should pay” until a woman invites you out. Then it doesn’t matter loll
That’s why women don’t invite, they want to onus and responsibility to be on you lol
@@Joelthedreamer and it's disingenuous because 99 percent of the time it's the man doing the asking. It's like the government telling a guy buying a car he needs Halley's Comet insurance in case Halley's Comet destroys his car. Sure it could happen but the odds are astronomical.
@@adrianchatman5734 exactly. That’s the reason they say that. I don’t ask girls out on dates for the most part because of those dynamics in general but they 100% expect you to pay anyway (now I have a girlfriend though who is a really great partner)
This is the reason Joy is single. She will say I can have any man I want. The difference is will they have you.
I always thought Joy was a clown. Especially when she would wear all those hairstyles that distracted from her appearance. 😳
I think Aba's point of view was so well put. I loved it. It's not about the money, it's about having the trait of generosity, of being kind, of doing nice things for a person that you are dating, even if you are a woman. Men want to feel consideration, attention. Sometimes I'm scared of the women and men from America. Their realities are.... from a parallel life.