I was on a ride with a group a friends. We all discussed the price of bikes today. General consensus, what we all currently ride is good enough and the cost to “upgrade” just is too much. And for context we were all riding mid level Treks and Specialized, so nothing fancy. Bikes that sold for $2-$4K pre-Covid
Happy for you Katie! What you described is probably the most beneficial aspect of carbon (besides weight) the stiffness translates to responsiveness. So, when you put the pedal down, the bike almost jumps out from under you compared to an aluminum or steel frame. On the flip side of that, the road conditions might be felt more acutely which can translate to “road buzz” in the arms etc. I hope you enjoy all the benefits and none of the drawbacks of your new ride! Thanks for sharing with us!
Hi Katie I got the same bike last year. Great bike. I assembled mine with SRAM force. Just finished a 350 mile ride in Colorado. Bike climbs great and it is solid descending. You are going to enjoy this bike.
SLC2 with direct mount rim brakes is a great frame - quality manufacturing, great handling and for the price a bargain really! The wheels. You’ll get used to the feeling but you really should get TPU inner tubes fitted, and Swiss stop brake blocks, for carbon, you’ll love the feeling and the braking with those slight upgrades.
Some TPU brands recommend they shouldn’t be used with rim brakes others say theirs are fine. I’ve used them for years in the UK with no issues. I am light (sub 60kg) only with my race bike (sub 8kg) and never done any alpine descents with them.
Press fit bottom bracket is nothing to worry about. I have BB86 on my Bianchi and never had a problem with it. I bought the tools and learned how to replace it myself and change it once a year as part of routine maintenance. However I could easily run it for years without changing but I’m fussy about maintaining my bike. There are a few horror stories about press fit but they are usually down to poorly manufactured frames with bottom bracket shells that are out of spec and should never have been released.
I got myself a Trek Domane a while back with a big discount because it was previous' year model, it's quite heavy with the ~10 kg's but a great starting point to get into road cycling. Would love to ride a super light carbon bike myself one day though. Very nice build!
Thank God Someone is talking sense, My motorbike Yamaha MT-07 Cost me in 2017 £5999, and there is a lot of hardware on the bike excluding the Engine. However I walked into a specialized Mega show room and there was a line of bikes costing £7000 upwards. I stared at these machines, looking for precious metals like gold or platinum. Seriously these manufacturers are taking the Pi55. There's definitely people out there who are making +£90/hour. I know because I need to bow down to them when I am servicing their computers. But mere mortals like me making less than £27K per year before deductions can only dream.
Nice bike! I like how you have chosen reasonably priced components. Great video. I like your climbing videos, especially when you talk about your training for rides with lots of climbing.I have rode up Haleakala (3000 meters in 56 km) in Hawaii in 2021 and am going to ride up Mauna Kea (4200 meters in 88 km) in December. I live in a flat area (Florida, USA), and training for rides with lots of climbing is not easy to do around here. Keep up the great work.
Good for you, not my first choice but that's only because I've got comfy with disc brakes and comfy tyres sizes. Looks lovely though and no doubt will be an excellent climbing bike.
Fab video, thanks for your open and honest approach to the review. I have a 12 year old carbon trek which I have just upgraded the groupset and wheels. First time for carbon (& tubular) wheels - wet riding is a bit scary due to the brakes being slow response,. I can't justify the price of new bikes, but my trek has been time trialled, audaxed, cafe ridden and commuted on. I love it and it works for me!
Well done on the new bike. I have a TCR rim brake and purchased some windspace Lun wheels I wasn't impressed with the braking and moved over to a set of boras and never looked back. Not all wheels are made equal the braking on the boras are soooo much better. The BB you can get a press fit locking bb like the hope Pf41 for this frame. Token also do one which locks the cups together stopping any unwanted movement 👍👍
Wouldn't worry much about the press fit BBs since it was professionally installed it's a matter of following protocol and doing it right ... that doesn't necessarily happen on an assembly line nor does anything else as far as that goes anyway. Just not very many good factory builds in my experience and worth a professional rebuild for the long haul for a trouble free bicycle. Its why we spent a lot of extra time doing some of that in the initial preparation at our shop to avoid the costly maintenance that we would have encountered during the warranty period and our trade ins were easy to prepare too. Sorry to say not all do this and it matters alot so bargain hunting isn't really a bargain. As Eddy said "Ride Lots " and it's best enjoyed on a well put together bicycle. My philosophy had always been build it right and it will be riden lots...so far this has been proven true. Recently one of the older mechanics where I worked all of my career mentioned that he was preparing a 30 year old bicycle and he was 100% sure I built it because it was 100% correct including the grease...that was the kicker he also knew that was the grease I used when I completely rebuilt it before it was sold (I was spending 4 hours on a initial build then so all the bearings had good grease including the hubs and everything properly torqued , lubed snd wheels tensioned and prestressed). He was right as I did do the initial work and it was a joy to see the 30 year results of doing things right. Just for the record I never left that philosophy behind and now I no longer have that job as I was recently let go mostly because of that. Having not missed a day through Covid and being one of the few senior mechanics that did so it was a real blow. Breaking my pelvis six months later has kinda kept me out ... definitely slowed down and riding a recumbent until I can get out on my trusty old Zurich. Everything changed in that split second slipping of an icey curb and hitting it on the way down. Thank God for the good surgeons that rebuit my pelvis and hip and the improved technology in the field of orthopedics because I now have a titanium acetabulem and ceramic bearing that will also last a long time. I'll never be seeing a surgeon about that unlike my grandfather. Technology a good thing.
Hi Katie, bike looks good. I have lots of experience with carbon wheels with rim brakes ( Mostly HED ). I regularly use a full carbon tubular set and a tubeless set. The tubeless ones have an alloy rim which works great with the rim brakes. You probably already know that the full carbon rims require a brake pad compatible with the carbon brake surface. They will help keep the brake surface from overheating and causing the rim to fail. Also just be a little more aware when they get the wet. I'm sure you'll love them when you get use to them. Keep the Charming personality and have a great day.
Looks nice, Katy. I’m not a fan of rim brakes on carbon wheels in the wet, but they’re fine in the dry. I’m lucky that I have other bikes I can ride when it’s wet, so my one rim-braked, carbon-wheeled bike (now 10 years old) is for dry sunny days only!
Laughing my head off that a £3k+ bike is being casually referred to by so many as 'affordable'!!! 'Affordable' for most of us is sub-£1k, so the only option for getting a 'proper' bike is the 2nd hand market.
It was the frame I was referring to :) affordable means so many things to different people and there will most DEFINITELY be sub 1k options for sure :)
Nice new bike Katie. Can you go tubeless because if so you can brake long on steep descents without worry. Latest press fit bikes seem to be much better and if you use a good BB you shouldn't get creaking.
I was lucky enough to snag a Canyon hybrid in November 2019 right before they tripled in price and a few months before lockdowns in the US, and then fortunate enough to snag a Poseidon road bike during lockdowns about 8 months later before their prices increased. I upgraded both seats to the Trek seats you recommended over a year ago and I’ve been happy as a clam ever since! Both have great components it the box!
Happy new bike day! Hope you've managed to get out more over the 'break in the weather' we've had this week :) My TCR weighs almost exactly the same as yours, and as you say, the stiffness makes such a difference. Onwards and (literally) upwards. Rim brakes on carbon though - wet northern downhills - keep it for dry days.
Great video Katie! I honestly thought you would keep pushing the Ribble brand and keep promoting UK craftsmanship - Winspace are cool, but, not sure if it suits the personality of your channel :) But! I understand you have a business to run, so! My 2c! Hello from Australia :)
I am in the process of deciding which winspace wheels to buy for my gravel bike. Import charges are steep as got to pay top price due to lost packages in importing. They recommended DHL which is reliable. Super nice gear they have at a significant price reduction to the ridiculous mainstream competitors like specialised etc. Lovely looking bike Katie. Many smiles will be had on that
I'd give ces sport wheels a look. They are based in Wales (so no customs fees) they are super aero and the hubs are great quality. Husband has had his since 2017 and I've had mine for a year and a half and the difference they made were amazing.
Great content Katie New horse looks fab. Bet she's gonna fly up the Tourmalet ! ⛰ Have fun tweaking the best setup to suit you & have a brilliant time at the TDF ☀️ ⛰🐐
I agree i managied to get my bike secondhand van nicholas titanium half the price and I changed groupset from shimano to campagnolo amazing bike your bike looks good too I will get a winspace wheelset sometime
Interesting but I prefer a high end steel frame or a high end aluminium italian frame to anything carbon. I rode on a Trek OCLV and on a Specialized Roubaix, it was so uncomfortable that I had my back almost killed. Glad that you didn't chose a disc brake version. As for components for my road bikes , my choice goes to the older Dura Ace 7800 and for wheels either Zipp 404, Zipp 60 and Mavic Cosmic Carbone. Glad that you kep your Dedacciai stem and bar, I don't trust at all a monobloc carbon stem with integrated bar. As for pedals, I prefer look delta pedals. For saddle, I only chose, Selle Italia with eitheir the Flite or Turbomatic models. For the note, I have raced on the past with steel bikes and they still get my preference. Nice bike anyways and enjoy.
I have HUNT carbon rim brake wheels. Braking in the dry even going down steep hills is great. You learn to adjust braking levels in the wet, but never feels unsafe
Great video. I ordered mine on black Friday. Can't wait to build it. I think im gonna go SRAM red 10 speed with some aluminium wheels in order to have disc-like braking performance.
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I've been building bicycles since i was 10 in 1970. A professional bicycle mechanic since the eighties. I cannot understand the debate over rim brakes on carbon rims without an alloy braking surface. This is a no brainer from a practical standpoint and I didn't understand why it even took as long as it did to enter into the road bike arena as it diid especially since the professional racing was on tubular tire set ups. Braking generates heat thats just physics and that heat has to be dissipated somewhere some into the pad and most into the rim (held together with plastic...not a good heat sink and doesn't deal with heat well) so the rim heats up the the braking surface degrades and the structure of the carbon rim is compromised (and the glue overheats with tubulars) this is all needless with a disk brake. Shimano's disk brakes are very easy to work and work so well that anyone can learn to service them if you're willing to take the time . When set up properly they don't really need any service until the psds need replacement and at that time replace the fluid. That process is purely methodical and staying neat by keeping the wheels set aside and removing all traces of fluid before the new pads are installed and cleaning the rotors. If you avoid the cheap stuff you also avoid the pit falls and won't need much additional maintenance until the pads are worn-out. The other big benefit is when the rotor is worn out it's a relatively inexpensive fix too compared to replacing a rim. All the bugs have been worked out now so there isn't much reason to to go down the rim brake path anymore. I live in Wisconsin and still ride my Lemond Zurich (all steel) with rim brakes (Shimano pads because they work well in the rain , not all aftermarket pads do especially Kool Stop) alloy rims with the hard anodizing cut through (and a pile 3 feet high of spares) so I don't have desents long enough to get me in trouble with pads or glue overheating ...just for the record and I like the way my flat old Italian wheels ride thankfully fat tubs are easier to get than ever. If I ever go the carbon route I certainly would be going with disk brakes and as of now that would also be a hooked beed or tubulars. A die hard traditionalist but cannot recommend anything else for carbon fiber rims ... just take the small weight penalty and have confident trouble free brakes. This should have been settled decades ago after seeing a few pros with career ending injuries due to overheated rims. The only advantage rim brakes have is they are a bit lighter but full of dangerous pitfalls . Disk brakes no dangerous pitfalls and easy to maintain and ... self adjusting to boot. Not a big fan of the carbon fiber rims with an alloy braking surface either because it's bonded to the rim and the heat builds up there and goes into the rim too through the bond. I really needed to bring common sense into this subject since it's mostly an issue of safety and that is precisely why we have two sets of brakes on a bicycle in the first place.
The sit-up situation... Is a thing related to geometry and bike Fit... The stiffness on carbon frames is real ... Then if you or when you take a bump or a hole... Will amp and not feel comfortable but it might get you the PB rewards on Strava. Enjoy the new bike. Sounds good from here.
My bike is just over 6kg has normal Shimano components and is very comfortable. Weight is still very important especially when riding up hills. Don't complain about other people spending thousands of pounds on the their bikes, if they can afford it then that's is okay. Everyone is different and if you're happy then great.
Ive got a winsoace gravel setup - very happy. I crashed those weels head on at 50km/hr, had a few small chips, two spokes pop out and tires did not go flat. These wheel are bomb proof! The newer hypers are even better. You should see if theyll send you their G2 gravel bike, its nice.
Interesting review, Katie. When I get some fitness back and can actually ride up steep hills, I must do a review of my Teschner bike, which I built up from a Trek 1.2. Despite the name (hello Peter!), Teschner is an Australian-made F&F in the 'traditional' style. Hmmm, something to work towards. Anyway, as you say, it wasn't a 'techy' review but your keenness for it certainly came across. May the wind be always at your tail........
It's not just bikes, I see this in a lot of industries. Everything for the shareholders (which they themselves often are as well) and ever increasing profit margins, come hell or high water. Enjoy the ride, everywhere I hear it is a solid brand. 👍
The 'aggressive' part will depend an lot on the frame geometry too. Looking at the bike setups from most people I ride with, the frames are too long and the stack is too low for them. The main issue with integrated bar/stem is not the 'agression', but the lack of options for those outside the average, especially with narrow shoulders (I run 36cm Deda). I guess they would have to make soo many different iterations of the same bar that it would not be economically feasible.
Man. The SLC 2.0 has been on my list for a while. I moved to a place where I do a TON of climbing. New Bike Day is the best. Your excitement is awesome, and I hope you enjoy this bike for years1
been a fan for a few years now love ya stuff, but im sick of the whole im not sponsored by this brand and have no obligation to say this. they sent you free product and you are advertising it so why the hell would we believe you. this is how your influencers survive by flip flopping between whoever the hell will flow you free crap. leave out the no obligation we all know why you are doing these videos
Cool. Agree. I've been riding a Lightcarbon direct from the manufacturer the last 2 years and mega pleased with it. The paint quality could be better, but its climbed around 100,000 metres to-date, feels really stable on the descents. Still on rim brakes but would consider buying the same frame in disc.
Morning Katie New bike day, whoop whoop🎉 Did you get the Winspace direct from the manufacturer or from Simon in Yorkshire? Winspace do some great cx rigs, just saying if you fancy a bash on gravel 😁
Congrats Katie!! I spent soo much on my mountain bike and I wanted a gravel bike so I had to build one myself. Reason is the barrier of entry (cost) into gravel riding is extremely high atm. I will look into winspace as a frame though!
Great review Katie, I’ll admit I dropped off you channel a while ago , this popped up and I wanted to have a look. Nice work, a decent, open and honest review with no BS. Keep it up .
You don't have enough gray to understand in 89 I debated dura ace or canpy on a hand made Italian frame from slx tubing with beautiful castings $2600 inflate that forward they were stupidly expensive and still are.
ive got a canyon endurace al and it is a dang solid bike. it just works. also super fun to climb out the saddle on. with disc brakes and 105 groupset its like 10.3kg for the whole build including tools, lights, pedals and cages.
Nice bike and honest review. My only gripe with this frame is WHY do they all have to be black? Get some bright stickers or something, you need to be seen.
I have the hyper 50s very stiff and spin up so fast all you need to do is just feather the brakes and not drag them on long decent sp they don't over heat that's the only advice to give.
Get a hambini bottom bracket if it's pressfit. It was a game changer on my tri bike. I'd love to try a winspace frame but they don't make anything larger than a 58cm frame and I always ride a 64cm. Great video though.
I know this doesn’t work when one needs a sponsor (making videos about nice bikes and beautiful destinations ain’t cheap), but if I had it to do all over again, I’d get a custom randonneur bike made by a small reputable builder, preferably local. It’s not racy, but I’m not, either. It’s expensive, but perfect fit and flex and practical bits are really really nice.
Cheers Robert. Ok I totally get it from your point of view as a viewer, I would think the same. But... when you're doing this nothing is ever free. Everything always comes at a cost in some way... time, energy... :)
Is your GRX group mechanical or electronic? What cassette do you run on the bike? (I'm thinking this could be a good candidate for a bike build) - thanks as always for your passion and down-to-earth advice. Good riding!!
Katie, That is a nice bike 👍👍 Does seem still quite expensive £3000 I would say , cycle to work scheme does a lot of good stuff.. Rim brakes , work for you , I am not so keen , coming down the one hill in Suffolk they didn't stop me just slowed me down ,, I am a bigger lump than you and its unfair on them rim brakes to expect/ hope they stop me ... Liked the aero bars ,and the bartape you chose, I retaped my bars 2 weeks ago very pleased with the end result. I was expecting a fly past from the Red Arrows in recognition of this achievement and a mention on the news but they both seem not to of received the email.
I've not done many carbon rim brake miles on my bike but personally I don't find them too bad. Hoping you keep them long enough to give us a video review of your thoughts and experiences with them.
Nice. Smart build I think. Besides the other things here, like weight and stiffness, the smaller chainrings will feel more peppy on a steep climb. Curious to see if you find a 46T big ring enough on faster days.
Nice video. I have a question about road feel of your winspace with the carbon wheels. I recently built a similar bike, carbon, 11 speed Ultegra, carbon bars, rim brakes. Wheels are 50 mm carbon wheels, similar weight to your bike. How does your bike feel on a windy day, or gusty descent , or when a large vehicle passes near you ? Like your vids. Thanks.
i think you are right, i ride gravel, training for motocross nationals. my 2023 race bike from yamaha was £7500 and its ridiculous that a push bike is anywhere near that, never mind more!
The fact you got pbs says it all, Katy! Seems like a fine bike and so light. Anyone who spend 10 grand on a bike is either extremely rich or bonkers! - or more likely, both! Lol. Another great video, Katy - you are always fun to watch - Enjoy France! 👍
Or maybe that person just likes nice bikes. You can lie to yourself all day. A top end bike rides completely different to this cheap chinese crap. Its not even the same universe.
Awesome Katie Strange, I just watched a video comparison between elves and winspace a pommy lad carbon expert did a detailed inspection. One was by far better than the other
Hi Katy, I love your new bike. I was just wondering if there was a particular reason for moving away from the Ribble brand? I had a recent bad experience with their customer service, but the bike itself in working order was amazing.
Bike looks great, and there is nothing like stepping on a really light bike. Health to ride and enjoy Katie, looking forward to your France 🇫🇷 exploits. #oranginaisthebest🍊
I paid 500 GBP on my bike, did already 10 000 miles. Replaced old 10 speed with new Ultegra R8000, added Assioma Duo and better wheels. Total cost < 2000 GB. Thank you very much for all the bikes for 3-6 times more expensive for someone who ... likes to ride a bike. People are such snobs! And companies know about it. Media push and push. Neighbour has it - I must have it - we are killing ourselves for what? eh.... Btw, most of the rides have few kg to lose - that reduction comes for free - unlike the one on frame or any other component
I hired carbon rim brake bikes twice. Once for Ventoux and the other time for the Mallorca 312 (225 distance). Both times they felt great, particularly uphill. But what the mechanic at Ventoux said will remaining embedded in my brain for eternity "When you brake, brake short and sharp. Do not stay long on the brakes or the rims could fail and you will die!". Try to imagine that in a French accent.
@woolychewbakker5277 Common knowledge really. I rode a 600k Brevet on rim brakes a few weeks back so I'm far from anti. Sometimes I toy with the idea of carbon rims.
I was on a ride with a group a friends. We all discussed the price of bikes today. General consensus, what we all currently ride is good enough and the cost to “upgrade” just is too much. And for context we were all riding mid level Treks and Specialized, so nothing fancy. Bikes that sold for $2-$4K pre-Covid
2-4k isn't fancy?! Lol
Happy for you Katie! What you described is probably the most beneficial aspect of carbon (besides weight) the stiffness translates to responsiveness. So, when you put the pedal down, the bike almost jumps out from under you compared to an aluminum or steel frame. On the flip side of that, the road conditions might be felt more acutely which can translate to “road buzz” in the arms etc. I hope you enjoy all the benefits and none of the drawbacks of your new ride! Thanks for sharing with us!
Hi Katie
I got the same bike last year. Great bike. I assembled mine with SRAM force. Just finished a 350 mile ride in Colorado. Bike climbs great and it is solid descending. You are going to enjoy this bike.
SLC2 with direct mount rim brakes is a great frame - quality manufacturing, great handling and for the price a bargain really! The wheels. You’ll get used to the feeling but you really should get TPU inner tubes fitted, and Swiss stop brake blocks, for carbon, you’ll love the feeling and the braking with those slight upgrades.
You really shouldn’t use TPU inner tubes with rim brakes! They specifically warn you not to.
Some TPU brands recommend they shouldn’t be used with rim brakes others say theirs are fine. I’ve used them for years in the UK with no issues. I am light (sub 60kg) only with my race bike (sub 8kg) and never done any alpine descents with them.
Press fit bottom bracket is nothing to worry about. I have BB86 on my Bianchi and never had a problem with it. I bought the tools and learned how to replace it myself and change it once a year as part of routine maintenance. However I could easily run it for years without changing but I’m fussy about maintaining my bike. There are a few horror stories about press fit but they are usually down to poorly manufactured frames with bottom bracket shells that are out of spec and should never have been released.
I got myself a Trek Domane a while back with a big discount because it was previous' year model, it's quite heavy with the ~10 kg's but a great starting point to get into road cycling.
Would love to ride a super light carbon bike myself one day though.
Very nice build!
I bought a Trek Demone second hand. I wanted to try a road bike. I LOVE it. Not bad for £400
Love my Domane
Thank God Someone is talking sense, My motorbike Yamaha MT-07 Cost me in 2017 £5999, and there is a lot of hardware on the bike excluding the Engine. However I walked into a specialized Mega show room and there was a line of bikes costing £7000 upwards. I stared at these machines, looking for precious metals like gold or platinum. Seriously these manufacturers are taking the Pi55. There's definitely people out there who are making +£90/hour. I know because I need to bow down to them when I am servicing their computers. But mere mortals like me making less than £27K per year before deductions can only dream.
Nice bike! I like how you have chosen reasonably priced components. Great video. I like your climbing videos, especially when you talk about your training for rides with lots of climbing.I have rode up Haleakala (3000 meters in 56 km) in Hawaii in 2021 and am going to ride up Mauna Kea (4200 meters in 88 km) in December. I live in a flat area (Florida, USA), and training for rides with lots of climbing is not easy to do around here. Keep up the great work.
Go do the Horrible Hundred in Clermont, Florida. With 115 km you get 1000 m of climbing. Yes, Florida.
big fan of Winspace, love my rim brake hyper wheelset. Great to see you riding one and keeping rim brakes alive!
Good for you, not my first choice but that's only because I've got comfy with disc brakes and comfy tyres sizes. Looks lovely though and no doubt will be an excellent climbing bike.
anyone choosing rim brakes in this day and age is just completely baffling to me
Fab video, thanks for your open and honest approach to the review. I have a 12 year old carbon trek which I have just upgraded the groupset and wheels. First time for carbon (& tubular) wheels - wet riding is a bit scary due to the brakes being slow response,. I can't justify the price of new bikes, but my trek has been time trialled, audaxed, cafe ridden and commuted on. I love it and it works for me!
I’m surprised you didn’t go for a disc braked frame. Might be a bit heavier but if you are going with carbon wheels, the braking is better with discs.
Katie's rocking them rim brakes that's why you're the GOAT 🐐
Well done on the new bike.
I have a TCR rim brake and purchased some windspace Lun wheels I wasn't impressed with the braking and moved over to a set of boras and never looked back. Not all wheels are made equal the braking on the boras are soooo much better.
The BB you can get a press fit locking bb like the hope Pf41 for this frame. Token also do one which locks the cups together stopping any unwanted movement 👍👍
Wouldn't worry much about the press fit BBs since it was professionally installed it's a matter of following protocol and doing it right ... that doesn't necessarily happen on an assembly line nor does anything else as far as that goes anyway. Just not very many good factory builds in my experience and worth a professional rebuild for the long haul for a trouble free bicycle. Its why we spent a lot of extra time doing some of that in the initial preparation at our shop to avoid the costly maintenance that we would have encountered during the warranty period and our trade ins were easy to prepare too. Sorry to say not all do this and it matters alot so bargain hunting isn't really a bargain. As Eddy said "Ride Lots " and it's best enjoyed on a well put together bicycle. My philosophy had always been build it right and it will be riden lots...so far this has been proven true. Recently one of the older mechanics where I worked all of my career mentioned that he was preparing a 30 year old bicycle and he was 100% sure I built it because it was 100% correct including the grease...that was the kicker he also knew that was the grease I used when I completely rebuilt it before it was sold (I was spending 4 hours on a initial build then so all the bearings had good grease including the hubs and everything properly torqued , lubed snd wheels tensioned and prestressed). He was right as I did do the initial work and it was a joy to see the 30 year results of doing things right. Just for the record I never left that philosophy behind and now I no longer have that job as I was recently let go mostly because of that. Having not missed a day through Covid and being one of the few senior mechanics that did so it was a real blow. Breaking my pelvis six months later has kinda kept me out ... definitely slowed down and riding a recumbent until I can get out on my trusty old Zurich. Everything changed in that split second slipping of an icey curb and hitting it on the way down. Thank God for the good surgeons that rebuit my pelvis and hip and the improved technology in the field of orthopedics because I now have a titanium acetabulem and ceramic bearing that will also last a long time. I'll never be seeing a surgeon about that unlike my grandfather. Technology a good thing.
Hi Katie, bike looks good. I have lots of experience with carbon wheels with rim brakes ( Mostly HED ). I regularly use a full carbon tubular set and a tubeless set. The tubeless ones have an alloy rim which works great with the rim brakes. You probably already know that the full carbon rims require a brake pad compatible with the carbon brake surface. They will help keep the brake surface from overheating and causing the rim to fail. Also just be a little more aware when they get the wet. I'm sure you'll love them when you get use to them.
Keep the Charming personality and have a great day.
Thumbs up to the Trek shop for doing the build for you. Hopefully other 'brand' shops won't be sniffy about doing the work either. Bon voyage!
Have you not seen the Trek Lidl advert Katie is in.
@@luketoms6110😂 I thought taking a Chinese bike to trek might be a bit awkward
@@luketoms6110 No!?!? What?!🙈
@TB41n0 it's not like they're not already building Chinese bikes anyway
Looks nice, Katy. I’m not a fan of rim brakes on carbon wheels in the wet, but they’re fine in the dry. I’m lucky that I have other bikes I can ride when it’s wet, so my one rim-braked, carbon-wheeled bike (now 10 years old) is for dry sunny days only!
Great video Katie and enjoy France !!!!
Laughing my head off that a £3k+ bike is being casually referred to by so many as 'affordable'!!! 'Affordable' for most of us is sub-£1k, so the only option for getting a 'proper' bike is the 2nd hand market.
It was the frame I was referring to :) affordable means so many things to different people and there will most DEFINITELY be sub 1k options for sure :)
Nice new bike Katie. Can you go tubeless because if so you can brake long on steep descents without worry. Latest press fit bikes seem to be much better and if you use a good BB you shouldn't get creaking.
I was lucky enough to snag a Canyon hybrid in November 2019 right before they tripled in price and a few months before lockdowns in the US, and then fortunate enough to snag a Poseidon road bike during lockdowns about 8 months later before their prices increased. I upgraded both seats to the Trek seats you recommended over a year ago and I’ve been happy as a clam ever since! Both have great components it the box!
Congrats on the new brand, the bike looks wicked 👍 Chris
Happy new bike day! Hope you've managed to get out more over the 'break in the weather' we've had this week :) My TCR weighs almost exactly the same as yours, and as you say, the stiffness makes such a difference. Onwards and (literally) upwards. Rim brakes on carbon though - wet northern downhills - keep it for dry days.
Yeahhh that's my thoughts just carbon rims - but will see how I go :)
@@KatieKookaburra indeed. Enjoy France!
@@KatieKookaburrawhy don’t you tell us about Ribble rather than not say?
Great video Katie! I honestly thought you would keep pushing the Ribble brand and keep promoting UK craftsmanship - Winspace are cool, but, not sure if it suits the personality of your channel :) But! I understand you have a business to run, so! My 2c! Hello from Australia :)
I am in the process of deciding which winspace wheels to buy for my gravel bike. Import charges are steep as got to pay top price due to lost packages in importing. They recommended DHL which is reliable. Super nice gear they have at a significant price reduction to the ridiculous mainstream competitors like specialised etc.
Lovely looking bike Katie. Many smiles will be had on that
I'd give ces sport wheels a look. They are based in Wales (so no customs fees) they are super aero and the hubs are great quality. Husband has had his since 2017 and I've had mine for a year and a half and the difference they made were amazing.
@@cyclingwoman8798 thank you for your recommendation, I will give them a look. I like scribe wheels, but always looking at companies
Great content Katie
New horse looks fab.
Bet she's gonna fly up the Tourmalet ! ⛰
Have fun tweaking the best setup to suit you & have a brilliant time at the TDF
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As always, thanks so much John :)
I agree i managied to get my bike secondhand van nicholas titanium half the price and I changed groupset from shimano to campagnolo amazing bike your bike looks good too I will get a winspace wheelset sometime
Interesting but I prefer a high end steel frame or a high end aluminium italian frame to anything carbon. I rode on a Trek OCLV and on a Specialized Roubaix, it was so uncomfortable that I had my back almost killed. Glad that you didn't chose a disc brake version. As for components for my road bikes , my choice goes to the older Dura Ace 7800 and for wheels either Zipp 404, Zipp 60 and Mavic Cosmic Carbone. Glad that you kep your Dedacciai stem and bar, I don't trust at all a monobloc carbon stem with integrated bar. As for pedals, I prefer look delta pedals. For saddle, I only chose, Selle Italia with eitheir the Flite or Turbomatic models. For the note, I have raced on the past with steel bikes and they still get my preference. Nice bike anyways and enjoy.
I have HUNT carbon rim brake wheels. Braking in the dry even going down steep hills is great. You learn to adjust braking levels in the wet, but never feels unsafe
Great video. I ordered mine on black Friday. Can't wait to build it. I think im gonna go SRAM red 10 speed with some aluminium wheels in order to have disc-like braking performance.
I’m confident when I say… you will love it! Mega bike 🤩
Congrats on the new ride and bon voyage for the TDFF.
Great new bike Katie😊
You heading down to the New Forest Garmin ride next month?
Have a great time in France 🇫🇷 ❤
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I've been building bicycles since i was 10 in 1970. A professional bicycle mechanic since the eighties. I cannot understand the debate over rim brakes on carbon rims without an alloy braking surface. This is a no brainer from a practical standpoint and I didn't understand why it even took as long as it did to enter into the road bike arena as it diid especially since the professional racing was on tubular tire set ups. Braking generates heat thats just physics and that heat has to be dissipated somewhere some into the pad and most into the rim (held together with plastic...not a good heat sink and doesn't deal with heat well) so the rim heats up the the braking surface degrades and the structure of the carbon rim is compromised (and the glue overheats with tubulars) this is all needless with a disk brake. Shimano's disk brakes are very easy to work and work so well that anyone can learn to service them if you're willing to take the time . When set up properly they don't really need any service until the psds need replacement and at that time replace the fluid. That process is purely methodical and staying neat by keeping the wheels set aside and removing all traces of fluid before the new pads are installed and cleaning the rotors. If you avoid the cheap stuff you also avoid the pit falls and won't need much additional maintenance until the pads are worn-out. The other big benefit is when the rotor is worn out it's a relatively inexpensive fix too compared to replacing a rim. All the bugs have been worked out now so there isn't much reason to to go down the rim brake path anymore. I live in Wisconsin and still ride my Lemond Zurich (all steel) with rim brakes (Shimano pads because they work well in the rain , not all aftermarket pads do especially Kool Stop) alloy rims with the hard anodizing cut through (and a pile 3 feet high of spares) so I don't have desents long enough to get me in trouble with pads or glue overheating ...just for the record and I like the way my flat old Italian wheels ride thankfully fat tubs are easier to get than ever. If I ever go the carbon route I certainly would be going with disk brakes and as of now that would also be a hooked beed or tubulars. A die hard traditionalist but cannot recommend anything else for carbon fiber rims ... just take the small weight penalty and have confident trouble free brakes. This should have been settled decades ago after seeing a few pros with career ending injuries due to overheated rims. The only advantage rim brakes have is they are a bit lighter but full of dangerous pitfalls . Disk brakes no dangerous pitfalls and easy to maintain and ... self adjusting to boot. Not a big fan of the carbon fiber rims with an alloy braking surface either because it's bonded to the rim and the heat builds up there and goes into the rim too through the bond. I really needed to bring common sense into this subject since it's mostly an issue of safety and that is precisely why we have two sets of brakes on a bicycle in the first place.
The sit-up situation... Is a thing related to geometry and bike Fit... The stiffness on carbon frames is real ... Then if you or when you take a bump or a hole... Will amp and not feel comfortable but it might get you the PB rewards on Strava. Enjoy the new bike. Sounds good from here.
Looking Good!
My bike is just over 6kg has normal Shimano components and is very comfortable. Weight is still very important especially when riding up hills. Don't complain about other people spending thousands of pounds on the their bikes, if they can afford it then that's is okay. Everyone is different and if you're happy then great.
Ive got a winsoace gravel setup - very happy. I crashed those weels head on at 50km/hr, had a few small chips, two spokes pop out and tires did not go flat. These wheel are bomb proof! The newer hypers are even better. You should see if theyll send you their G2 gravel bike, its nice.
Interesting review, Katie. When I get some fitness back and can actually ride up steep hills, I must do a review of my Teschner bike, which I built up from a Trek 1.2. Despite the name (hello Peter!), Teschner is an Australian-made F&F in the 'traditional' style. Hmmm, something to work towards. Anyway, as you say, it wasn't a 'techy' review but your keenness for it certainly came across. May the wind be always at your tail........
It's not just bikes, I see this in a lot of industries. Everything for the shareholders (which they themselves often are as well) and ever increasing profit margins, come hell or high water.
Enjoy the ride, everywhere I hear it is a solid brand. 👍
I feel the same with most integrated cockpit. They are made for really aggressive riders and there are none made for normal people.
The 'aggressive' part will depend an lot on the frame geometry too. Looking at the bike setups from most people I ride with, the frames are too long and the stack is too low for them.
The main issue with integrated bar/stem is not the 'agression', but the lack of options for those outside the average, especially with narrow shoulders (I run 36cm Deda). I guess they would have to make soo many different iterations of the same bar that it would not be economically feasible.
i want to get one of this too
direct mount braking with this light stiff frameset
what a combination!
Awesome choice, would love one !
Lovely new bike Katie, enjoy 😊
Do you still have Ribble gravel bike or did they all go back?
I asked a similar question! She hasn’t answered which is annoying one minute recommending Ribble then no mention. I won’t follow her now.
Man. The SLC 2.0 has been on my list for a while. I moved to a place where I do a TON of climbing.
New Bike Day is the best. Your excitement is awesome, and I hope you enjoy this bike for years1
been a fan for a few years now love ya stuff, but im sick of the whole im not sponsored by this brand and have no obligation to say this. they sent you free product and you are advertising it so why the hell would we believe you. this is how your influencers survive by flip flopping between whoever the hell will flow you free crap. leave out the no obligation we all know why you are doing these videos
Cool. Agree. I've been riding a Lightcarbon direct from the manufacturer the last 2 years and mega pleased with it. The paint quality could be better, but its climbed around 100,000 metres to-date, feels really stable on the descents. Still on rim brakes but would consider buying the same frame in disc.
It´s 2023. Discs is a given imo.
Good vid Katie. Interesting it uses a Cannondale mech hanger.
Congrats! I guess it was dealing with rim brakes for about 40 years, but would never consider a rim brake bike today. Hope it works out for you!
Morning Katie
New bike day, whoop whoop🎉
Did you get the Winspace direct from the manufacturer or from Simon in Yorkshire?
Winspace do some great cx rigs, just saying if you fancy a bash on gravel 😁
ja carbon wheels are tricky not only on rainy days: the spokes can break and get into a projectile...
Congrats Katie!!
I spent soo much on my mountain bike and I wanted a gravel bike so I had to build one myself. Reason is the barrier of entry (cost) into gravel riding is extremely high atm. I will look into winspace as a frame though!
Great review Katie, I’ll admit I dropped off you channel a while ago , this popped up and I wanted to have a look. Nice work, a decent, open and honest review with no BS. Keep it up .
I got a sharpie paint marker to cover up ugly white writing on bike parts, works great!
Looking forward to seeing how you get on in France, could do with some new wheels
You don't have enough gray to understand in 89 I debated dura ace or canpy on a hand made Italian frame from slx tubing with beautiful castings $2600 inflate that forward they were stupidly expensive and still are.
I buy my bikes from German direct companies. Radon, Rose & Canyon. Everyone has been fantastic value and problem free.
Rose don’t ship to the UK now if that’s where you are.
ive got a canyon endurace al and it is a dang solid bike. it just works. also super fun to climb out the saddle on. with disc brakes and 105 groupset its like 10.3kg for the whole build including tools, lights, pedals and cages.
Nice bike and honest review. My only gripe with this frame is WHY do they all have to be black? Get some bright stickers or something, you need to be seen.
It’s the colour of the carbon - the raw finish. Also saves weight 🙃🙃
Brilliant content, love the new bike
What an absolutely brilliant review. Honest, clear and interesting with just the right amount of techiness. Thanks Katie.
I have the hyper 50s very stiff and spin up so fast all you need to do is just feather the brakes and not drag them on long decent sp they don't over heat that's the only advice to give.
Get a hambini bottom bracket if it's pressfit. It was a game changer on my tri bike.
I'd love to try a winspace frame but they don't make anything larger than a 58cm frame and I always ride a 64cm. Great video though.
I know this doesn’t work when one needs a sponsor (making videos about nice bikes and beautiful destinations ain’t cheap), but if I had it to do all over again, I’d get a custom randonneur bike made by a small reputable builder, preferably local. It’s not racy, but I’m not, either. It’s expensive, but perfect fit and flex and practical bits are really really nice.
Looks good. Enjoy. I must say I use carbon wheels. I love the comfort. But I am using 303s disc versions. Safe travels.
Rim brakes with carbon wheels are usually not very good when they’re wet. Test them before going for a hilly ride in wet weather. Nice looking bike!
Needs the right pads. Eg Swiss stop or Campagnolo Red which are arguably the best and they do a Shimano option
So jealous! Congrats!
Hold on, not sponsored not paid but accepted a free bike. Unless you intend to return it I’m sorry, but you were paid. Great review though.
Cheers Robert. Ok I totally get it from your point of view as a viewer, I would think the same. But... when you're doing this nothing is ever free. Everything always comes at a cost in some way... time, energy... :)
Oooh, been waiting for this video since I saw your post on Strava!
Is your GRX group mechanical or electronic? What cassette do you run on the bike? (I'm thinking this could be a good candidate for a bike build) - thanks as always for your passion and down-to-earth advice. Good riding!!
Katie,
That is a nice bike
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Does seem still quite expensive £3000 I would say ,
cycle to work scheme does a lot of good stuff..
Rim brakes , work for you , I am not so keen , coming down the one hill in Suffolk they didn't stop me just slowed me down ,, I am a bigger lump than you and its unfair on them rim brakes to expect/ hope they stop me ...
Liked the aero bars ,and the bartape you chose,
I retaped my bars 2 weeks ago very pleased with the end result.
I was expecting a fly past from the Red Arrows in recognition of this achievement and a mention on the news but they both seem not to of received the email.
Looks like you've found a fun climbing rig. Is the geometry more relaxed...?
Congrats Katie enjoy your bike and France 🚴🏼♂️🚴🏼♂️🚴🏼♂️🎉🎉🎉
I've not done many carbon rim brake miles on my bike but personally I don't find them too bad. Hoping you keep them long enough to give us a video review of your thoughts and experiences with them.
Rim brakes...😍
The road looked pretty smooth and then I saw like chip & seal
Loved the Video, Loved to watch katie
What was the overall rough estimate for the build? Thanks Katie!! Can't wait for France videos!
Nice. Smart build I think. Besides the other things here, like weight and stiffness, the smaller chainrings will feel more peppy on a steep climb. Curious to see if you find a 46T big ring enough on faster days.
Nice video. I have a question about road feel of your winspace with the carbon wheels. I recently built a similar bike, carbon, 11 speed Ultegra, carbon bars, rim brakes. Wheels are 50 mm carbon wheels, similar weight to your bike. How does your bike feel on a windy day, or gusty descent , or when a large vehicle passes near you ? Like your vids. Thanks.
i think you are right, i ride gravel, training for motocross nationals.
my 2023 race bike from yamaha was £7500
and its ridiculous that a push bike is anywhere near that, never mind more!
The fact you got pbs says it all, Katy! Seems like a fine bike and so light. Anyone who spend 10 grand on a bike is either extremely rich or bonkers! - or more likely, both! Lol. Another great video, Katy - you are always fun to watch - Enjoy France! 👍
Or maybe that person just likes nice bikes. You can lie to yourself all day. A top end bike rides completely different to this cheap chinese crap. Its not even the same universe.
Awesome 😎.
Congratulations on the beautiful new bicycle.
How come no disc brakes on the bike?
I love your channel. ❤
Awesome Katie
Strange, I just watched a video comparison between elves and winspace a pommy lad carbon expert did a detailed inspection.
One was by far better than the other
Hi Katy, I love your new bike. I was just wondering if there was a particular reason for moving away from the Ribble brand? I had a recent bad experience with their customer service, but the bike itself in working order was amazing.
She won’t reply re Ribble
Real world, review!! Thanks KK.
Congratulations on your NBD !!👍🎉🎊🥳🚴♀️💨💨💨
Nice one. I've been looking at the Winspace gravel. 👌
Bike looks great, looking forward to seeing your adventures on it...Have a great time in France 😊
I understand this an unpainted frame. What are we looking at 2:09 to 2:12? Is this a crease in the carbon layup?
Just wondering why 46/30 chainset? Is it because you are using a shorter crank? Or just for better gearing on climbs?
Lovely bike health to enjoy :) I’m 90% the liv is the same as giant tcr the top of the seatpost comes off and turns and is then inline?
All three of my bikes are press fit, I have never had any problems with it.
Bike looks great, and there is nothing like stepping on a really light bike. Health to ride and enjoy Katie, looking forward to your France 🇫🇷 exploits. #oranginaisthebest🍊
I am literally sipping on it now wooop wooooop!!
@KatieKookaburra , remember it has to be out of the wee round bottom glass bottles for the best oranginay 🍊 experience 😋😋. Slurp slurp 😊😊
I've thought about getting that same frame. Thanks for the review! My Giant with a press fit BB just started creaking this last weekend. Boo.
Very nice frame. Great looking build.
I paid 500 GBP on my bike, did already 10 000 miles. Replaced old 10 speed with new Ultegra R8000, added Assioma Duo and better wheels. Total cost < 2000 GB. Thank you very much for all the bikes for 3-6 times more expensive for someone who ... likes to ride a bike. People are such snobs! And companies know about it. Media push and push. Neighbour has it - I must have it - we are killing ourselves for what? eh....
Btw, most of the rides have few kg to lose - that reduction comes for free - unlike the one on frame or any other component
I hired carbon rim brake bikes twice. Once for Ventoux and the other time for the Mallorca 312 (225 distance). Both times they felt great, particularly uphill. But what the mechanic at Ventoux said will remaining embedded in my brain for eternity "When you brake, brake short and sharp. Do not stay long on the brakes or the rims could fail and you will die!". Try to imagine that in a French accent.
@woolychewbakker5277 Common knowledge really. I rode a 600k Brevet on rim brakes a few weeks back so I'm far from anti. Sometimes I toy with the idea of carbon rims.
Aluminium rim's exist and quality like a DT Swiss or campanologo etc aren't even that much heavier.
@@zedddddful I run DT Swiss oxic alu rims and am very happy with them.
Durianrider will be Proud! Great bike! Rim Brakes for the Win.