I LOVE UPTIME SUNRISE; Stream Highlights
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Uptime Sunrise :)
Note: I don't actually hate nor love the strat, its just the precision on the mechanic is not taught well enough. Good enough isn't good here, and that leads to way to many wipes. Strat isn't bad, it's either the mechanic or the player.
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I love when wicked thunder is up on my time till the sun rises :3
Name a better combo than PF + Healer LB3
I'm being serious when I say that sunrise (uptime or not) is honestly the EASIEST mech for me to do and I cannot fathom why people cannot fully grasp it.
It's because of how stupidly tight it is
Is it? I'd just call it people not knowing how to stand correctly. Literally just stand in one spot till it goes off, no dodging required.
That’s why its tight lol
Its always fixed spots too. I get some struggle when progging cuz shit the amount of time it took my ass to realize to pay attention to where the clones looked is embarassing but it really is such a straightforward mech of find spot stand on spot
The strats and the mechanic are not hard concepts. Uptime sunrise is very inconsistent in pf. The strat has to be pinpoint accurate which is obviously not ideal for pf.
I fail to see how uptime is responsible for the wipes, every time it was someone that was in wrong spot so they will probably fail any other strat too. It has nothing to do with precision when they are not even in the correct position in the first place. And maybe if people were not using a zoomhack at 14:26, MAYBE it would help them stand on the correct spot.
Because if someone is in the wrong spot with a different strat they at most kill one other person doing a strat that is less precise
If you want uptime sunrise then skip sunrise
@@KiRAyylmao no ? if you are in the wrong spot for normal you can easily kill 3 people (tower + 1 baiting)
@@OzmandisMandis if you're aiming at the tower with normal you're actively griefing, if you're aiming at the wrong spot in uptime you're just dumb
There's a lot of dumb people out there, let them be slightly wrong
@@KiRAyylmao that makes no sense at all and you just moved the goalposts.
@@OzmandisMandis moving the goalposts is the point of not doing uptime, with uptime you need to be correct in every way, with downtime you need to just not be completely wrong actively aiming at the tower 3 feet away from you
I will say, in multiple of the early clips, it could’ve been saved if the one person that died just waited a second or two longer before rezzing for their debuff to fall off. The debuff that kills them if they are alive when it falls off lol.
But yeah it’s astounding how hard it is for people to just stand on the middle edge of the marker, tower side lol.
Yeah, going forward i heavily teach to accept rez when debuff says 4 seconds so it falls off slight before rez
@@sayakeishiina yeee. Not saying the strat doesn’t have its quirks or anything, but it sucks to see that it could’ve been recovered with just a second or two longer before accepting rez 😔 (also of course as long as they are able to reorient themselves and find where they need to be in time).
Do you know why there are so many uptime sunrise parties in pf? Because normal sunrise parties just clear
that first bit, LMAO chat is fucking evil
Wow how could you make the waymark on that platform? 😅
For M4? You can do it even in normal, give it a try next time
I don't understand why people struggle so much with the uptime strat, you literally just stand on the edge of the waymark tower-side.
People struggle with it because of what you just said. It’s not just the edge of the marker, it has to be the center of the edge of the marker. Most people know it’s the edge of the marker, but that’s all they know. Uptime has very little wiggle room so if someone is close to center but not center enough it’ll kill someone. And reminder, in sunrise, the person that messed up is never the dead one
@@danielditton6510 The normal strat is worse. People don't stand close enough to the cannons or the death wall. People clip the death wall and die. People greed GCDs on the south towers.
Autocad is simpler and gives better uptime. It's just a better strat.
@@mosley3485 I don’t recall ever saying normal is better or worse. Thank you for your analysis though
I believe normal sunrise is much easier than uptime. Sunrise is not even a make or break mechanic that desperately requires an uptime version. P7 absolutely needed an uptime Strat because prior to sleepo you had Home Depot and that was a really bad start, passable but it was heavy downtime. Sunrise is near the dead end where there’s no dps check at all, just point it out and don’t be afraid to hug the wall, if both people do that there’s 0 danger of the laser hitting you, it’s not even close.
with everyone knowing where they should go, it's basically a braindead strat: just go to your respective marker, locate the tower, go to the middle of the edge that is adjacent to the tower, solved. It's not harder than normal strat where people needs to find the needle on the platform and standing quite close to the wall.
What's crazy is my team couldn't do normal uptime but when we switched to uptime sunrise we did it. So the answer is everyone finds different things easier. Some find using a marker easier some find using a point on the arena easier.
I dunno, looking at the clips here in almost every case here the wipe was caused by a player being just a little too late, I feel like if they're already too slow to identify where to move they're worse off with normal just on account of to run further out. You less time than you think because the turrets are slow to react to your movement, in the clip where he's pointing out how tight it is if everyone got to those spots on time it would have resolved correctly but they locked early at a bad angle.
@@timaus10 cause your team is probably bad at the game. Can’t point a laser OUT the arena? Just go to the clone and yeet that shit out, there is nothing difficult or troublesome about doing it that way.
@@nekowishyouagoodsleep6575 every strat is brain dead LOL. what a useless way phrase it. Everything is easy enough to do if you know what you’re doing. Normal is completely safe if anyone is competent enough to hug the wall and just point it out. But expecting competency from pf randoms and sadly sometimes your own static mates is too much
god damn that whm is terrible
any edgers in chat
The strat IS bad, the idiots saying "Both strats have the same amount of precision required / same margin of error" is a fucking joke and they've not looked at any footage.
In what world is "Laser beams burning your toes off its so close" the same margin for error as "It's literally inches away on my screen."
Sucks to suck
thing is u have marker which shows u exact spot where to stand. there is imgur attached to raidplan with zoomed in positioning. If person cannot stand on side of marker, he wont look at floor pattern in normal either
Good player can do either strat, where cad being easier, bad player cannot do either cause he have no eyes or something.
I tried both, actually they have a different tradeoff in term of margin of error. When you are close a tiny angle can cause a massive difference and you have way less time to do your thing properly because you have more distance to travel and the laser lags a little bit before pointing at you. You also take the risk to step outside of the arena and die instantly. With autocad, you may have to be more precise but you have twice as much time to do it and micro adjust your position. You either trade a margin on space or on time but none is better.
Autocad has less margin for error but it also gives you waymarks to show you exactly which pixel to stand on. Autocad is easier and better.
Look at all those nonbelievers
Normal >>>>>>>> uptime
Only ever do uptime if you enjoying the fight for 5 hours straight
Skill issue
bro normal sunrise is so much easier in pf its not even funny. I've never cleared with uptime. People cannot do it lol
normal or upime that doesn't change anything, cause peopel can't read their debuff, the only path to clear this fight it's skip sunrise .....
I've had way more wipes with normal sunrise due to people either not standing close enough to their cannons, not standing close enough to the death wall, clipping the death wall and dying or greeding GCDs on the south towers.
Just skip sunrise