The ULTIMATE Recap of Final Fantasy XIII-2 (RECAPitation)

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  • @Jeddy027
    @Jeddy027 9 років тому +352

    As usual,time travel is a hell of a drug.

    • @joshuarichardson6529
      @joshuarichardson6529 8 років тому +52

      Yeah, it's like heroin for bad writers.

    • @poppyharlow9377
      @poppyharlow9377 4 роки тому +7

      Joshua Richardson yup check out the new ff7r with sephi time travelling

    • @julioromero238
      @julioromero238 2 роки тому +2

      I’m listening to the first minute, time travel, my brain immediately turns off. Glad I didn’t play this one

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 2 роки тому

      @@julioromero238 Ok lol

  • @OniBlackMage
    @OniBlackMage  8 років тому +160

    This video has been Copyright Claimed by Square-Enix AGAIN, even though I won a previous claim that it IS Fair Use. #WTFU (where's the fair use?)

    • @XHiimcharlieX
      @XHiimcharlieX 8 років тому +5

      +Oni Black Mage
      Sorry to hear :( This was really terrific content - I've beaten both FFXIII and FFXIII-2 but years ago now. Never played lightning returns but just got for my PC. Thanks for putting in all this effort!!!! Hope you don't run into any further copyright shenanigans.

    • @KoEnder
      @KoEnder 8 років тому +5

      Honestly this is the first time I ever heard Square C.claimed someone. They were always pretty chill about it.

    • @thediamonddust
      @thediamonddust 7 років тому +1

      Oni Black Mage Fuckin' Nazis.

    • @iamcharizard5468
      @iamcharizard5468 7 років тому +1

      I know this is old, but maybe it's because of the background music? Do they ever give you a reason as to why it's claimed?

    • @louiexx
      @louiexx 7 років тому +5

      I hope you won.. Your previous comment was a year ago, it's stupid why companies would block contents like this. It's free advertisement of beautiful games. Sheesh. These videos made me buy all the games, they should be paying you.

  • @medleysa
    @medleysa 3 роки тому +42

    FF XIII: I have the most complicated and plot hole-ridden story in the entire Final Fantasy series!
    FF XIII-2: hold my beer

    • @SarcasticDuck
      @SarcasticDuck 3 роки тому +14

      You mean: hold my beer in multiple different timelines

  • @StrangerHappened
    @StrangerHappened 4 роки тому +53

    *"Somehow, for some reason, suddenly, inexplicably"* are the right words.

  • @Abiogenesis666
    @Abiogenesis666 5 років тому +100

    What always bothered me about this game was how quick and easy Sarah just writes off and forgets snow, who was her fiancee and did everything to save her in the first place. Even when she dies, no snow mentioned. So much for love lol

    • @khiem8488
      @khiem8488 3 роки тому +14

      ??? She talk about snow countless of time at the beginning what do you mean ? And then during her adventure would you always talk about you fiancé? It will be a bit weirn ain'it

    • @bartdude82
      @bartdude82 2 роки тому +7

      @@khiem8488 yeah I agree. If anything she NEVER stops talking about him. But through the game, she realizes that she worries too much about Snow and that he’s capable of protecting himself so she tries to focus on only what she can do atm

    • @sambajane
      @sambajane 2 роки тому +6

      I see your point, but I also deeply appreciate this game's resistance to romanticizing a male/female protagonist duo. It would've gotten old and tired if they'd done ANOTHER game where the growing romance was intimately tied up with the rest of the story. From one perspective, it can look like she's uncaring, but also love isn't everything. She's her own person too.

  • @GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH
    @GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH 7 років тому +93

    "This sequel features heavy time travelling"
    LEAVE WHILST YOU STILL CAN

  • @ZeroFische
    @ZeroFische 3 роки тому +91

    No human could possibly hope to understand this storyline.

    • @marcoamazo
      @marcoamazo 3 роки тому +3

      I agree

    • @sketchtheparadigmyork1217
      @sketchtheparadigmyork1217 2 роки тому +1

      Nope.
      My first Square Enix Game was kingdom hearts 358/2 days. Then KH BBS, THEEEEN Final Fantasy 13.
      And let me just say, this is an example of gamers being over-dramatic about not liking a new game because it wasn’t familiar to what they expect from the FRANCHISE.
      As a stand alone, the games are literally fine for their era. 13-2 really holds up in my opinion over time, but it lacks the immediate icon-ability that makes it easy for people to mindlessly “final fantasy ooh ahh” at.

    • @sketchtheparadigmyork1217
      @sketchtheparadigmyork1217 2 роки тому +1

      Ironically, ff 14 is INCREDIBLY difficult to follow if you don’t take in hundreds of hours of dialogue in full… whereas 13 requires like an hour or two of data-logue entries. Which people complained about. Albeit, you have to go out of your way for the full story.
      I see 13 as a demo, and 13-2 as a more fine tuned demo

    • @jayblodia
      @jayblodia 2 роки тому

      Bro I was confused in pt one

    • @TheNyion912
      @TheNyion912 5 місяців тому

      @@sketchtheparadigmyork1217😂wrong loser

  • @liarluis
    @liarluis 8 років тому +54

    And people say Kingdom Hearts is confusing. This is out of whack! (good game though)

  • @AYCHMENG
    @AYCHMENG 7 років тому +66

    Yeul = Kenny

  • @thediamonddust
    @thediamonddust 7 років тому +94

    I consider myself reasonably intelligent but this plot is way over my head. That said, it never stopped me throwing about 1000 hours of my life at it over multiple play throughs.

  • @alwaysdrunk5461
    @alwaysdrunk5461 4 роки тому +17

    The music in this game took my heart

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono 9 років тому +137

    This game story is way too complicated and convuluted for its own good. FFVIII was never this complicated

    • @RyuNoZero
      @RyuNoZero 5 років тому +4

      well FFVIII ends with Ultimecia giving her Power to Edea who even agrees to wield her Power, making every Playthrough of FFVIII canon, basicly^^

    • @cheilas87
      @cheilas87 5 років тому +5

      @Quinton Rogers No it wasn't. ff15 is trash

    • @cheilas87
      @cheilas87 5 років тому +12

      @hugo 4363 I can tell you some reasons why ff15 is a lot uglier than you think. It's the most empty final fantasy game. It has boring traveling, reapetitive side quests, no character development, incomplete almost no story at all with horrible narrative and the main story quests are most of them totally silly. It's not broken, it's disgusting. Technically can't get better except if they created 10 more dlcs to fill the gaps and change the story. At least ff13 was decent enough to complete its story and I found it very original and interesting. If you didn't like it it's your problem, but not in a million years ff15 is better than ff13. My favorite is ff9.

    • @callmeken2327
      @callmeken2327 4 роки тому +2

      I shall end this debate once and for all: deleting it from history.

    • @poppyharlow9377
      @poppyharlow9377 4 роки тому +1

      Noel Auditore ffxv had so much potential. Square just rushed the game just like how EA, Bethesda, and Activision does it. It was supposed to have a different story (most characters are the same) and a different title (versus 13) which means it was made in the same world as lightning’s. But meh we were given an incomplete game, made without passion.

  • @NathanDavis2
    @NathanDavis2 7 років тому +18

    None of that made sense.

  • @danielcappuccio6720
    @danielcappuccio6720 9 років тому +65

    Oni, wanted to say I love this series. You may not get a million views, but, this is great content. Also, wondering if you can answer one question/complaint I have with the FF13 story through 13 and 13-2: How would things have been different if the protagonists did NOTHING?
    To me, it seems like if the protagonists aren't around in 13, then cocoon falls and Etro's gate is opened, leading to the events of lightning returns, albeit with perhaps, a different savior. If Sarah and Noel fail in their quest to stop Caius, he finds a way to kill the Goddess and chaos is released again.
    I 'suppose' the difference, at least in the first example, is that humanity gets another 500 years before the end times, but, it just doesn't seem very fulfilling as a game story. However, the bad guys winning in the 2nd episode makes perfect story telling sense...if its a movie. When you've invested 40+ hours or however long you played 13-2, you want to know that your character's efforts mattered in some way.

    • @OniBlackMage
      @OniBlackMage  9 років тому +10

      +Daniel Cappuccio Thanks for watching. Let's see, if the characters did nothing, then, speaking 4th dimensionally, my guess is that Cocoon, with its fal'cie and humans on board would, all die due to Fang/Vanille turning into Ragnarok and ending things. If Etro intervened again, then Fang/Vanille would crystallize again and the Cocoon fal'cie would try something else to kill them. So let's assume their plan eventually works and Cocoon falls and dies.
      That still leaves the Pulse fal'cie alive, as well as Yuel and Caius who are both immortal, and Etro would still be alive, albeit very sad. Since there was no need to mess with time via Chaos to save the party, the events of FF13-2 would never happen since there is no society of humans to fight for survival, and Caius wouldn't be mad at Yuel dying due to time paradoxes. If anything, Yuel might die even less often with no humans around. Because Caius doesn't try to freeze time, he would continue protecting Yuel and Etro instead. As an aside, Bhunivelze or his creations Lindzei/Pulse may or may not care enough to use the extra Chaos lying around to remake a new human society on a new Earth.
      The only significant difference is Lightning Returns has the original group saving the original race of humans as Etro intended them, with Chaos inside. Keep in mind the Cocoon fal'cie's plan to end the current race of humans, wasn't necessarily wrong, as peaceful humans in the image of Bhunivelze would be likely be inhabiting Earth instead.
      Just my 2 cents.

    • @danielcappuccio6720
      @danielcappuccio6720 9 років тому

      +Oni Black Mage I'll take your pennies and add a few more of my own. It is mentioned in 13 that the cocoon fal'cie were attempting to open "Etro's Gate" and create a calamity great enough to draw the attention of the creator, Bhunivelze. We see in the finale of 13 that Etro's gate was just about to open before the heroes intervened. Cocoon falling would release the chaos if the human souls were still on board. Even if the pulse fal'cie were still alive, they would surely be swept up by the chaos just as it happened at the end of 13-2. This seems to intimate that the chaos could escape Valhalla even without the death of the Goddess if enough souls had to flow into Valhalla.
      Etro's gate opening in the final cinematic of ff13 may be an incorrect statement, but, I believe I read/saw that somewhere. If it is correct though, the heroes still continue to be 'damned if they do, damned if they don't' through both the first and second game as it relates to the overarching plot.
      The points about Caius not needing to do anything (because Yuel would be safer in a world not altered by etro's paradox causing ways) doesn't matter as the end times would already be upon humanity.
      PS. Thank you for responding to a comment on a much older video!

    • @SwobyJ
      @SwobyJ 8 років тому

      +Daniel Cappuccio FFXIII had them save many of Cocoon for hundreds of years. FFXIII-2 had them save many of Pulse for hundreds of years. FFXIII:LR had them save many for an indeterminate time. Its about Fighting Fate. About humanity having the little bit of 'chaos' that might surpass all other plans of any divine will. If they didn't do anything in FFXIII, other people might have been picked to kill Orphan, everyone in Cocoon dies and there is no Savior because there's no one to save. The world just ends. Either Etro's Gate is 'ripped open' and chaos pours in and God makes a new world, or he goes into the chaos himself and tries to find his mommy, but either way, everyone's dead and they don't come back. There would be no humanity anymore.

    • @danielcappuccio6720
      @danielcappuccio6720 8 років тому

      Malcolm Swoboda Given the nature of the game world, fighting fate to live another day makes sense to me. I think what might have been lost on me is the span of time that actually occurred in XIII-2. Obviously they tell you the years, but as a player jumping through time, all the events seem to be just days apart. So while the efforts of the players do make a large impact on the people living in the world, it would seem that the PC's themselves are still getting the short end of the stick.
      But, when you consider the ending of Lightning Returns, with the characters finally coming together and overcoming GOD, yeah...it comes together.

    • @Lucky-df8uz
      @Lucky-df8uz 6 років тому +1

      I think it was also mentioned that a large group of people dying at once also releases chaos, so cocoon falling and humans dying would still create a burst of chaos which would be bad you know, if humanity dying out and being replaced wasn't bad enough, who's to say these "peaceful humans" are even really human, part of what makes us human is we are flawed and must overcome our shortcomings.

  • @DegenerateHour
    @DegenerateHour 6 років тому +19

    My mind throughout this story and recap:
    "???"

  • @spiritsongtress
    @spiritsongtress 7 років тому +24

    My brain hurts. But I am interested.

  • @lowyjoy4491
    @lowyjoy4491 4 роки тому +11

    For me is still unclear why they would build a second cocoon...

    • @TomTudusHughes
      @TomTudusHughes 3 роки тому +1

      Because pulse was not safe to stay on as in noels future

  • @mskiara18
    @mskiara18 3 роки тому +11

    I thank you for taking the time to share, I can see why many players complained of the story feeling too convoluted and abstract when time traveling causes great consequences in the 13 universe.

  • @hypoooh
    @hypoooh 7 років тому +10

    When I played these games I was hella confused since I played more for the game and less for the story, but the more you learn about the story it's actually really cool how much thought they put into it. Still confusing tho

  • @eldessia8826
    @eldessia8826 8 років тому +7

    even with a step by step explanation im still confused lol

  • @alsyrriad
    @alsyrriad 10 років тому +19

    The more times I watch this video, the better I understand it lol

  • @FrenXIII
    @FrenXIII 4 роки тому +7

    The story really is an abomination... Its actually easier to understand quantum mechanics.

  • @oreocream934
    @oreocream934 2 роки тому +3

    This game feels so much like bad fanfiction

  • @montgomeryfitzpatrick473
    @montgomeryfitzpatrick473 3 роки тому +2

    I played this game for at least 15 hours and had no fucking idea what was going on at all

  • @TrophyReacts
    @TrophyReacts 8 років тому +36

    Great Recap man, playing Lighting Returns and this was needed ha :)

    • @Senshi00
      @Senshi00 8 років тому +7

      +TheTrophyMunchers haha i am going to do the same thing, final fantasy 13-2 is just unplayable, worst port ever. GTX 970 4GB and FX 8320, Lightning returns is much better + 60 FPS :p

    • @TrophyReacts
      @TrophyReacts 8 років тому +1

      Kenadit Shegow glorious 60 fps, it is much better port :)

  • @LY554YT
    @LY554YT 8 років тому +6

    TL;DUnderstand
    Serah's sister is missing. Serah meets Noel. They do a load of stuff that doesn't actually happen because "the paradox has been resolved". They meet a salty emo Caius man. They kill a salty emo Caius man. S^*t hits the fan because a goddess went heart deep in him.
    It's basically a bridge between 13 and Lightning Returns, where most of the game takes place in alternate timelines and doesn't even have anything to do with the main story, and doesn't even technically happen. For example, the whole "proto-Fal'cie" thing isn't even real after Serah "shouts" at Hope, because he never builds the AI that builds the Fal'cie in the first place. That's the kind of stuff you can ignore.

    • @SwobyJ
      @SwobyJ 8 років тому

      +Don'tShootTheMessengerX Yes, the main thing of FFXIII-2 is 'this is how we get from things seeming quite fine, to the world ending anyway'. Though there is still a 'timeline' of hundreds of years in between.

  • @romulochaul
    @romulochaul 10 років тому +8

    OMG this videos are awesome! Please do Lighting Returns! Please!

  • @seabit253
    @seabit253 3 роки тому +1

    This game just goes too far imo. XIII has a chronic problem with not explaining itself well enough, but the game itself is fantastic anyway, and putting together the pieces of the lore isn't too difficult. I mean apart from the fact that they're like 'we're gonna save cocoon!' And then they make such a fuss about not killing Orphan just to do it anyway.
    This game though? I don't get it. Why is Caius trying to stop the timeline from being realtered? Because Yuel. And I get that being immortal, seeing her die so many times must be awful, but you'd let the world become entropy, and the timeline fully collapse just so Yuel doesn't suffer?! What the actual-

  • @knightchimera2455
    @knightchimera2455 4 роки тому +3

    And I thought FF13 was confusing

  • @ffs6158
    @ffs6158 3 роки тому +2

    The original XIII's plot was fairly straight forward and had characters you cared about and ended well; then you're thrown into this chaotic convoluted nonsense + DLC. Why Square, why.

  • @johnnyscifi
    @johnnyscifi 4 роки тому +2

    I recall hearing that it was better than XIII

  • @iabugueno
    @iabugueno 4 роки тому +4

    16:08 what happened then with the Elisa's suspicious glance? It didn't lead to some sort of conclusion

    • @SarcasticDuck
      @SarcasticDuck 3 роки тому

      3 seconds later he explains there's a boobytrap made by her that they get caught on

  • @NekoSoren
    @NekoSoren 10 років тому +11

    I have to admit that this could have been a great plot for a final fantasy game, time travel and a more serious tone for the plot...but...the fact that they tried to glue it together to 13 kinda ruins it for me u.u. Don't get me wrong, it's entertaining but it almost seem like they made the story as they moved on only to tie the three games together. 13 was by itself complicated enough to add this whole time travel thing and paradoxes...in a new game perhaps they could have wrote a better plot but here it's a pain to understand it all completly...I just hope that Square Enix can come up with a final fantasy to redeem the franchise like 7 did at it's time u.u...and one that might actually let us play our rpg like an rpg where we take the calls and it's not automatic -.-

    • @Uroboro_Djinn
      @Uroboro_Djinn 9 років тому +1

      +NekoSoren I understood the story perfectly the first time I played the game. I actually think it was so simple that it was way OVER-explained, lol.
      If you have questions then I'll gladly answer because I feel like more people would enjoy it as much as I do if they could understand the story. :)

    • @Uroboro_Djinn
      @Uroboro_Djinn 8 років тому

      David Kennedy I rank FF 13-2 5th in terms of story and 3rd in terms of gameplay.
      I rank 13-3: Lightning returns last in terms of story but the gameplay and sidequests are FUCKING AWESOME (P.S. The sidequests have awesome stories and I loved them all. The main story sucks ass.)

    • @NekoSoren
      @NekoSoren 8 років тому +1

      Not to count having to force Lightning to say "Meow Meow Choco Chow"...with Hope there to listen and maybe record it? XD

    • @Uroboro_Djinn
      @Uroboro_Djinn 8 років тому

      NekoSoren I actually liked that xD

    • @NekoSoren
      @NekoSoren 8 років тому

      Now, joke aside, I actually kind of liked the battle system this time around owo, and the banter between Lightning and everyone XD and it was nice to see her being nice to Snow xD

  • @elysion8747
    @elysion8747 5 років тому +3

    yknow as much as people say this is convoluted and confusing, this game is literally my favorite final fantasy for its amazing characters, gorgeous music, really painful story especially on yeul, caius, and noel, and the really improved battle system. i had no problem understanding the story, its just a lot to remember but i just hope they actually explained clearly how exactly time travel works with this www-

  • @lighthousemaccabee8133
    @lighthousemaccabee8133 7 років тому +27

    Wasn't this broad getting married

  • @dreamboatanne
    @dreamboatanne 7 років тому +3

    I wish this, FF1, 2 and 3 recapitations had english subtitles as well ;( My first language isn't english, so it's very hard getting what Oni says at some points. Since FFXIII-2 have a very confusing plot, I can understand little to nothing. :(((

  • @r12point8
    @r12point8 7 років тому +3

    FF XIII-2 is unnecessarily complex. so confusing. I started watching these recaps as a way to just jump right into Lightning returns, but while the recaps were great -- the story is so confusing I think i'll just play something else. Thanks for the summary. This half an hour saved me hours of agonizing game play.

  • @1beatcher
    @1beatcher 7 років тому +3

    what is Final Fantasy XIII-2... a time paradox.

  • @marielangelayumol7117
    @marielangelayumol7117 3 роки тому +1

    Since in 2006 got canceled Versus XIII and Agito XIII in Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy XIII changed into Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy also changed into XV for PS4, XBOX 1 follow by Type-0 HD same PS4 and XBOX 1 in Japanese Release 2011 PSP only

  • @JJMomoida
    @JJMomoida 6 років тому +5

    I honestly had no trouble understanding the story of FFXIII... but this.... *this* , good God...

  • @mathiasthewise
    @mathiasthewise 6 років тому +1

    And the Samurai Jack, Doc Brown and the Time Squad form Captain Planet and kill the jaberwocky and save Narnia just in time in Final Clusterfuck 2: Electric Boogaloo

  • @mrdude88
    @mrdude88 7 років тому +2

    Every villain is every FF series must destroy the world because they believe they can save the world from itself. Except Kefka, he's simply crazy and just want to see the world burn.

  • @TheSonicbuum
    @TheSonicbuum 10 років тому +5

    So why did he not just stab himself? That would amounted to same events going down in the end he pulled the blade on himself any way so it cant be that he was bound from it like Barthandelus was bound from destroying cocoon directly...hmmm

    • @OniBlackMage
      @OniBlackMage  10 років тому +6

      It's flimsy, but as they said, the Guardians have an inheritance system in which they can only pass on their power and immortality to the next Guardian that kills them. He was basically pushing for Noel to get stronger to slay him, while sabotaging Etro in the meanwhile. Though, as we find in Lightning Returns, that plan backfired.

    • @TheSonicbuum
      @TheSonicbuum 10 років тому +1

      Good point I love the story but it turned out to be too complicated in the end I wish they had found a way to make the story better starting at the end of the first one.

    • @Uroboro_Djinn
      @Uroboro_Djinn 9 років тому +2

      +Lesley Nealy He technically can't kill himself at all since he has Etro's heart. Only another guardian can kill him but since Etro fucked up, killing Caius kills her too.
      Etro is an idiot.

    • @firetarrasque4667
      @firetarrasque4667 7 років тому +1

      But Caius's suicide fixed the paradox, thus saving Yeul... Why DIDNT he kill himelf if he cares about it Yeul that much?

  • @BrutusAlbion
    @BrutusAlbion 3 роки тому +1

    lol you thought FF13 had a convoluted and confusing story?
    FF13-2: Hold my time gate open. I'm about to unleash everything.

  • @quiescence90
    @quiescence90 4 роки тому +1

    Watched my sister play this and didn't understand the story. Watched this and still don't understand the story.

  • @JCDadalus
    @JCDadalus 3 роки тому +2

    Chrono Trigger revisited.

  • @austincha689
    @austincha689 7 років тому +2

    Why not talked about the DLC expansion on Lightning's part? Explained a little bit more from what I remembered playing the game like years ago

  • @alarsenal10
    @alarsenal10 8 років тому +1

    My head hurts. The story is so...convoluted. Couldn't they just have addressed the War of Transgression? I think that would have been quite more interesting than this "If you change the future, you change the past" bullshit

  • @suuriz
    @suuriz 3 роки тому +1

    i thought final fantasy 13 was compilcated but i was wrong final fantasy 13-2 is even worst they should of just continue final fantasy 12 story

  • @tea_fran
    @tea_fran 7 років тому +2

    The ending to this game upset me so much. Not because I had to wait for a conclusion, but for the fact that an already unnecessarily embellished story and universe is constantly being added onto.
    "Aw, happy ending for FFXIII!"
    "FFXIII-2: Not really, the ending was a paradox! Here's time travel!"
    Seriously, what is SqEnix's obsession with Time Travel?

  • @creamncheese7761
    @creamncheese7761 3 роки тому +1

    Ive gotta rewrite this story so that it:
    A: IT MAKES SENCE...
    B: Has more of a connection to the first game...
    C: To pretend the "if you change the future, you change the past" phrase doesnt exist...

    • @irvs5922
      @irvs5922 3 роки тому

      I urge you to try. I do think if properly managed, this story could become great while also not being this complicated. I’ll help you if you want.

  • @christopherjamesbautista901
    @christopherjamesbautista901 3 роки тому +1

    I understand the first half of this but it goes bonkers in the middle. Like wth 🤦‍♀️

  • @lostforever773
    @lostforever773 3 роки тому +1

    Tried to get into the game 3 times
    Forgot where and when the fetch item was, so I gave up
    Worst final fantasy

  • @elroymartinezjr
    @elroymartinezjr Рік тому +1

    I like time travel stories, but this is too much...

  • @claz75
    @claz75 10 років тому +3

    Really good explanation. Again if anything the explanation is a little fast but that might be because it is a confusing story, and I ave already played the game haha. Again super job!

  • @M1cr0p47
    @M1cr0p47 8 років тому +3

    This is great. I'm finally after getting lightning returns but it's been so long since I've played the first two of the trilogy. So this recap is really useful to me. Thanks.

  • @someonecomenting1300
    @someonecomenting1300 3 роки тому +1

    When your dm suck at storytelling.

  • @PetitPoneyDuVercors26
    @PetitPoneyDuVercors26 6 років тому +2

    The "good ending with Hope and Snow" is still less confusing than the canon one 😂
    I gave a chance to this game, but like in XIII the good ideas doesn't save it in my point of view, too much artificially complex things in the story

  • @yenxion6516
    @yenxion6516 7 років тому +1

    I love ff but 13 and 13-2 was a mess. So I never play lighting returns cus 13-2 was disappointing.

  • @Ouro17
    @Ouro17 3 роки тому +2

    I was so happy that I understood FF13, this second part is so hard to follow!!

  • @jonah_da_mann
    @jonah_da_mann 5 років тому +1

    I can't believe that someone got paid to write this shit.

  • @enid22ful
    @enid22ful 4 роки тому +1

    How much of this did you understand? I understood roughly a 75% of it.

  • @Hawkatana
    @Hawkatana 6 років тому +4

    Moral of the story?
    >Caius is an idiot
    >Time Travel is a dumb plot device
    >Motomu Toriyama should never be involved in game development again.

  • @adhirg
    @adhirg 3 роки тому +1

    I love that the BC / AD abbreviation for XIII’s timeline is AF lol.

  • @chetranqui
    @chetranqui 7 років тому +2

    Thank you for the clear, concise rundown. I couldn't bring myself to finish the game (it's such a mess), but I want to give XIII-3 a chance, too... so... you filled that gap in lore.
    ...what a mess of a story...

    • @thekwjiboo
      @thekwjiboo Рік тому

      It's a shame too, because the game play and mechanics with taming monsters and whatnot is actually pretty good imo.

  • @jjyhawk1
    @jjyhawk1 8 років тому +3

    So...Many....Yeuls...

  • @marcoamazo
    @marcoamazo 3 роки тому +1

    Damn this is just cluster fuck of a story

  • @soulofexistence
    @soulofexistence 9 років тому +6

    They never explained why Snow has the Lu'Cie's brand, did they?

    • @kingartemiz2xxx786
      @kingartemiz2xxx786 9 років тому +5

      No, they don't. Just like the rest of the trilogy, they don't even explain anything.

    • @soulofexistence
      @soulofexistence 9 років тому

      King Scheiber I think they explain it in Lightning Returns but I dont remember xD

    • @kingartemiz2xxx786
      @kingartemiz2xxx786 9 років тому +3

      Nitram Zimaohk Sema Actually, they don't explain this in the game. Or in that other game either. I think in FFXIII-2 Fragments After, which is a 242 page book, that tells us that a Cactuar branded him a l'Cie. I don't get why the developers didn't put that. They could have easily placed that info into the game.

    • @soulofexistence
      @soulofexistence 9 років тому

      King Scheiber They just say it was to have powers in order to help Serah find Lightning I think, but they never mention who transformed him or what his mission is in the game. Also, I didnt know about that book :O I only read the episode 0

    • @BlackwingStorm900
      @BlackwingStorm900 9 років тому +1

      King Scheiber They said he must've found a Fal'cie after he wound up in a paradox and became branded again.

  • @garytsang5673
    @garytsang5673 3 роки тому +1

    Introduction of FF4, in terms of FF13
    You, play as a F'lien called Cecil in the military wing of G'lil called M'lili, along with your childhood best friend trained in the art of Blolfie in another military wing of G'lil called Monfewi. One day the Fu'roef of G'lil summon you and your childhood friend to the journey to a town, in which a magic art called Mfeiw is practiced by a group of people called Lofiwefe...

  • @turntapeover5749
    @turntapeover5749 5 років тому +1

    This game is a solid proof that Squarenix have no idea what a time paradox is nor how it works.

  • @JeffreyM641
    @JeffreyM641 9 років тому +2

    I feel like if I watch this video, like 3 more times, then maybe I can start making sense of this trilogy.

  • @xtremecritik9191
    @xtremecritik9191 3 роки тому +2

    How does someone even write this?

  • @tw4898
    @tw4898 7 років тому +14

    what a shitstorm of a game

  • @carolthorn
    @carolthorn 8 років тому +1

    I have two questions:
    1. caius needed to drop cacoon to open a big portal to valhalla so that the chaos could be unleashed into the world, but hope and the others stopped cacoon from falling or rather saved everyone on cacoon from dying , but then why did the chaos unleash anyway ??? doesn't that mean no portal would've opened? hence chaos could've come out????
    2. why did lightning freeze herself?? how does that help in anyway???
    PS, I'm about to play the 3rd one, thought i needed a refresh, must the the 50th time I watch a ffxii2 recap but still have a hard time remembering the story ...

    • @LY554YT
      @LY554YT 8 років тому +1

      +carolthorn
      1: When Noel was "forced" to kill Caius, he also killed the goddess Etro (she gave her heart to Caius so he could be Yeul's immortal guardian). She controlled the chaos in Valhalla and with her dead, it just exploded into their world.
      2: Lightning froze herself to keep the memory of her sister alive after she died.

  • @julioromero238
    @julioromero238 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, this game is a mess though

  • @Samanosuke1138
    @Samanosuke1138 6 років тому +4

    This actually has me wondering about Final Fantasy XIII. See, I don't believe the War of Transgression really happened. I believe it is a fiction created by Barthandelus to keep the humans from venturing outside Cocoon. Unless I forgot something in the plot or datalogs (i need to play this over again), but I think it went down that way because Barthandelus wanted to end everything. He used Etro to make humans on Cocoon so he could kill everyone and get Bhunivelze's attention. That way, Bhunivelze would end all creation and start over, or something like that...

  • @ZealSeraph
    @ZealSeraph 8 років тому +1

    We've come a long way from fighting four fiends and saving the crystals...a bit too long way for my liking.

  • @TheDeluche
    @TheDeluche 4 роки тому +1

    FF13-2: How not to do time travel.

  • @rickster008
    @rickster008 6 років тому +1

    the story seems to be similar to chrono trigger

  • @HiIThinkImReal
    @HiIThinkImReal 4 роки тому

    Okay, _now_ I can play Lightning Returns.
    Jesus, this is complicated.

  • @Solo-5050
    @Solo-5050 4 роки тому +1

    Okay look sir, you're doing a wonderful job of explaining this to me and I thank u and commend u. That being said, I'm 9:00 minutes in and I had to pause and go "What the fuck is going on!?"

    • @Solo-5050
      @Solo-5050 4 роки тому

      14:43 minutes in... I'm ready to give up 😓

    • @Solo-5050
      @Solo-5050 4 роки тому

      19:56.... nosebleed 🙀

  • @jayjaymyers5276
    @jayjaymyers5276 2 роки тому +1

    The story of the 13 trilogy is all over the place

  • @Alassandros
    @Alassandros 4 роки тому +4

    Jesus... is that what they want to do with the Final Fantasy 7 Remake sequels? I am horrified by how many similarities there are between this and the FF7 Remake. So convoluted and nonsensical.
    Plus, they're being directed by the mind behind the guy who made the Kingdom Hearts story. What a colossally volatile mixture.

  • @ShinobiNeon
    @ShinobiNeon 5 років тому +9

    I don't know what kind of drugs they were taking when they wrote the story for this game, but holy shit. Hard to believe we went from the good old days of Final Fantasy to... this.

  • @Trunks47r786
    @Trunks47r786 6 років тому +1

    I used to think I understood Final Fantasy lore.

  • @PriestDaSensei
    @PriestDaSensei Рік тому

    I couldn’t finish the game this was my first time playing a final fantasy I’ve never give up on a video game b4 but this shit was absolutely terrible I love the story but I hate the goddamn gameplay u can grind as much as possible and some fights will still come down to RNG 🤦‍♂️I thought the Reddit was just bandwagoning on hating this game but now I can’t blame em I lowkey now hate the gameplay good story tho I’m gonna buy FF 15 and hopefully it’s not ass like this

  • @flips3388
    @flips3388 6 років тому +1

    This shit is confusing

  • @LoisyAbigail
    @LoisyAbigail 8 років тому +2

    So a goddess goes stupid and endangers the universe by saving 5 (was it that number?) crystallized L'Cie?

    • @SwobyJ
      @SwobyJ 8 років тому +2

      +aranciaaurora The deal with Etro is that she's the most 'human' goddess, and this may have to do with her being unintentionally modeled after the top creator goddess. She's the flawed but caring one. Her whole story is of intervening for humanity or specific humans' sakes and yet complicating things even more. But then she finally dies (or whatever) and Lightning carries on her better intentions. It is of Etro herself that humanity was created, and through Etro's power and actions that humanity's souls could continue to exist after death (but in new birthed bodies). Where Pulse would challenge and house man and Lindzei would manipulate and form man, Etro birthed and cared for man, even while often being the god of their deaths. Even in the larger scale of her interventions bringing on the 'end of the world', this of course did also lead on the chain of events of Lightning doing her own stuff, but partially in the name of being the champion of Etro.

    • @danielramsey6141
      @danielramsey6141 8 років тому +3

      +Malcolm Swoboda
      Honestly. I use to hate the Mythology of the game, till I found a detailed video that explained the myth without cutting corners.
      I just hate how sloppy SE got with their Storytelling and decided to give us this Mythology in bits and pieces. It did Not even Help that Etro was intorduced in FF13-2, and honestly....they should've ended the Game There!.

    • @SD-kw2bn
      @SD-kw2bn 8 років тому

      +Daniel Ramsey Could you link that video by chance if you can still find it.

    • @ghostdong40
      @ghostdong40 7 років тому

      Daniel Ramsey "To be continued..." lol This sequel was a rickety bridge to a sloppy finale

  • @khas88888
    @khas88888 4 роки тому +2

    confusing AF

  • @SLEEPYDOGINU
    @SLEEPYDOGINU 5 місяців тому

    One thing I never understood is how Caius's heart of chaos = a manifestation of Etro and so killing him throws open the doors of Valhalla in the end. Why couldn't he just stab himself in the heart to reach his goal instead of waiting for someone else to do it? What was the purpose of going to fight Lightning in Valhalla since Etro wasn't physically there

  • @Ubermensch9240
    @Ubermensch9240 3 роки тому +1

    WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?

  • @FishyOnStick
    @FishyOnStick 9 років тому +8

    this is a great video but it only illustrates what a disaster of a plot this game had

  • @theunexplainablecrumbs4387
    @theunexplainablecrumbs4387 7 років тому +1

    Did the Fal'Cie pick up Cocoon and put it in front of the sun? 5:23 Ahaha

  • @adrianmartinez9406
    @adrianmartinez9406 11 місяців тому

    I enjoyed combat but story was a confusing mess. I did love the dlc as well. Some cool guest characters such as goddess lightning as a “monster”

  • @sambajane
    @sambajane 2 роки тому

    my favorite exchange:
    Serah: "Lightning, tell me, after all of this, after we do everything, will we finally get to be together again?"
    Lightning: "One thing at a time, Serah."

  • @MarelWhite
    @MarelWhite 2 роки тому

    So they took the already complicated story of FF13 and introduced time traveling and different timelines to it....greeeeaat

  • @Copebroo
    @Copebroo 3 роки тому

    "This happened in the year 3 AF. also know as Three as F***""

  • @krystalx324
    @krystalx324 8 років тому +3

    fail #1 not having 3 characters in party
    fail #2 not having snow, hope, sazh or any of them as a 3rd member
    fail #3 the extremely out of place attempt at copying chrono trigger with time travel, except doing it all wrong
    fail #4 Making the game based on using a moogle to find invisible fragments
    fail #5 making a game that had potential so atrocious
    fail #6 making it so god damn hard to find where to go even with a guide because the story makes no sense if you do even one thing wrong
    fail #7 its not ff7,8,9 or 10

  • @makotoamamiya2442
    @makotoamamiya2442 Рік тому

    I finished the first one and wow I'm so confused how did they go from a happy ending to this??

  • @OverEmotionalGamer
    @OverEmotionalGamer 3 роки тому +1

    Your video makes this game seem way more interesting than it was.