As a US Marine, I pray for the day we can hold hands across the globe. The choices of our youth, become the regrets of our old age, when wisdom exceeds intelligence and ego.
Thank you We all can't get on the same page because some are in the wrong Library the only books they have are filled with paranoia and aggression and domination many of us spend time in that Library but expand Horizons as we learn virtue it's part of growing up. love your spirit
@@abcdef-qk6jf you must only watch MSM.. fact is usa did a coup in 2014 in ukraine.. installed their cia man.. and then commmenced murdering ukrainians.. also .. when the soviet union went away they promised nato wouldnt move an inch towards moscow.. all lies.. now the us doing in ukraine what russia tried to do in cuba.. we didnt let them.. and in fairness they shouldnt let us.. your propagandized.. your lied to by your own govt.. and your buying it hoook line and sinker.. putin is not the bad guy here.
putin didnt start this war.. the usa did.. but putin is going to finish it.. thank god for the us taxpayers sake.. someone.. even putin.. someone is saying no to the MIC looting this country and murdering millions.
fact is if the usa never went into ukraine.. no ukrainians would be dying rnight now.. also almost all the ukrainians killed by their own govt since the us backed 2014 coup would still be alive.. putin is not responsible for doing what hte usa forced him to do. anymore than we were responsible for any deaths caused by the cuban missile crisis. tho we did kill alot of cubans even a us president.. over cuba.. that was when they did the JFK coup.. the same monsters causing wars all over hte planet.. still there..
this is a fine documentary. even the overly dramatic narration can't detract from this truly epic narrative; all of us who grew up during the Cold War were acutely aware every day that we may not have lived to see tomorrow. awesome, top marks.
Even though it’s not talked about enough and maybe not as much on the “Any minute” pressure it was back then but I’d say we’re in a Cold War (if you will) present day
I do not know about the Soviet subs, but we did a final inspection of the Reactor Compartment before leaving for patrol and a sponge was used to soak up the condensate that had collected in the low spots. I did it twice. It was kind of cool.
Brilliant and Terrifying! Those of us who'd lived through the Cold War, are just glad to still be here. Perhaps this is the lesson for the entire world, "Destroy the enemy, and yourself at the same time". From this horror, there is no escape. And we created it. We can do better.
@@ricardoxavier827 Not the world , not sure if Pakistan can hit North America and if they did they may take out a west coast city or a few cities in the Europe , but the response strike on Pakistan would turn the entire country into the moon's surface. Pakistan is not suicidal yet.
@@Crashed131963 yet... The last decades they educate all their children to become islamic extremists. They already are having issues with that, and after the brainwash, they no longer can reverse what they did to the new generation. We will have bad news soon from pakistan, and we might see a india vs pakistan nuclear war when that generation of extremists get access to the nuclear weapons... Afghanistan are controled by the pashtun ethnic, and the pakistan side of that ethnic will start to become extremist as well... Baluchistan already started the attacks over the pakistan army, and it doesnt look good the next years... Russia are the last of our concerns. And if Iran trully develop nuclear weapons, even worse.
the Cold War was fanned by the West. The US aided Russia in the hope, Russia would exhaust itself, so it could be taken over easily, And at the same time defeat the Wehrmacht, so Britain could survive, when it was on the brink. After the war, the west treated Russia like an apprentice. It gave East Germany to Russia when Russias Red Army had already occupied it. How generous. Stalin agreed only cause the red army had to fight Japan and China in the East. And the US pampered the Nazis, took them to the US to work for them. To catch up with Russias rocket and missile programs.
My father was a Submariner in WWII Pacific so this topic is always of interest to me. What a miserable situation this is for so many people & much nature! Imagine if all that money, time, effort and expertise had been used for something positive for the planet and it’s occupants! What an Astounding Level of Waste and destruction just for deterrence. 🙏Always Remember the USS Liberty🙏
imagine what you could build with all the metal and copper and fuel and so on and so on with all the weapons they have built in the last 150 years since the dawn of the industrial revolution, its porpoise, it's reason for being created........to kill and destroy lives and where they live! think of all we could have done with that or are we worried about population control and who would gets to decide that. what a world we live in when we see ourselves as fictional characters, the hero's in a story when we are the villains........and If you have to ask to understand all of that then........
And the kursk an many many more so bloody sad.we always seem to forget that these machines are made to kill each over its almost unbelievable when you Really think about it
The Russians didn't raise the Kursk, the Dutch did! Russians didn't have the capacity for that either, a joint venture between Smit International & Mammoet Transport lifted and towed it back to Murmansk.
@John Cliff "Shows just how unprepared they were if ever an accident happened . Or if they ever cared about." Not easy to be prepared for anything when your economy has been collapsed under guidance of shock doctrine neoliberal economic ideologists combined with domestic oligarchs who stole public wealth and appropriated infrastructure for personal gain to the last nut and bolt after the dissolution of the USSR. No state with that level of economic crisis would be ready for anything.
You can tell this was produced in USA, they repeat the same "factoids" every ten minutes. Cause the attention span is too short in the target audience.
@@rogersmith7396 possibly but why does the guy keep repeating the same sentences again and again? Would you forget the danger is radiation because an ad break occurs? This type of narration is only seen in the US bud. It makes it almost unwatchable for us, four of us just sat down to watch it and we ended up playing cards as it played in the back ground.
@@kiwibob223 Its a Discovery Channel style of dcumentary. Need about 40 odd minutes of material to fit a one hour slot with adds in between. Most often they barely have 15 minutes of actual written or facts so they stretch it by adding alot of footage repeating the same points again and again. Its the Mc Donalds model of documentary making. Cheap and fast to make, large and filling but of little nutritional value. Same template production line method that is rinsed and repeated to make a menu large enough to make it look like there is variety. Thats why Discovery made big bucks and burnt to the ground.
@05:05 The Soviet Union did not fall 'overnight'. It was a long, drawn-out process. The United States and its allies basically out-spent the USSR during the Cold War. It took years, but it finally happened... but not 'overnight'. Retired USN submariner.
The CCCP didn’t invest in semiconductors. To this day only Japan and the United States manufacture Grade 1 semiconductors. China’s centralised decision making is making the same mistakes as the Soviet Union.
@@IronWarhorsesFun You're blaming the current was (I assume you mean Russian war against Ukraine) is caused by NATO? I disagree. It's caused by that meglomaniac Putin.
You should see how they store Biological Weapons from defunct Research Labs. In household Refrigerators with Soup Cans. If you really want to get scared watch a Doc on Lost Nukes from the Cold War. I think there's 4 out of 22 lost U.S. Warheads, fully armed waiting to detonate. There's 1 in the Savannah Lake.
Why do such documentaries repeat themselves throughout, as though their audience cannot retain information or images already presented? It turns a fascinating topic with some amazing footage, into an endurance exercise for the viewer.
Agree. Sadly and annoyingly it's how most documentaries are made: replay a short sceen again and again with dramatic narration. But this one is good for sure
We live in an age of channel hopping, therefore by repeating itself the documentary appeals to the lowest common denominator. The group that has attention deficit.
Pitiful corny video which resembles a soap opera! The announcer has such a terrible script and delivers it so pitifully as to make one inclined to gag. Best of luck, but this is a rather awful format!
You know in a world war 2 cookery book, in the centre was first aid in the event of having atom and hydrogen bonds dropped in your area, it was quite surprising how small the area of damage was for an atom bomb verses a hydrogen bomb.
Same thing is done to American subs in Bremerton, WA. Reactors are sealed up the same way and barged down the cost and up the river between Washington and Oregon. The machine shop I worked in at the yard had a drydock on either side. One always had at least a couple of subs being cut up in it at the same time.
True and the tanks at Hanford have been leaking plutonium for at least 50 years and the U.S. Government will NEVER be able to CLEAN UP that area and the Columbia River, which is NOW unfit to use for drinking water!
Soviet era subs like the Severstal (Typhoon class TK-20) were disposed of using help from other nations such as the US, Germany, and others. They still retain most of the Delta class boats, and one Typhoon as a test bed for new tech, such as the RSM-56 Missile system
I worked on the engines on the P3 Orion ASW aircraft during a Navy enlistment in the early/mid 80s. Those Typhoon - class subs were monsters! They weren't very quiet, but they carried a LOT of destructive power in their hulls!
@@tefnutfps8329 we helped them sell the nuclear parts that could be used for nuclear power plants in South America it was done during a disarmament deal plus we had nuclear warheads we were decommissioning for more powerful ones and selling the old stuff was a good deal for everyone and they would be heavily guarded and accounted for and gave the U.S. and Russia a bigger foothold in gaining resources from South America through energy deals and building nuclear power plants
Imagine if Russia would've Westernized and become extremely wealthy and prosperous. This war they're waging is just wasting lives, talent, their legacy, and the Federation itself is at risk. Sad to see this documentary knowing that there will be no reconciliation.
@@MostlyPennyCat "them" are not "they". The USSR is not Russia, and it is the military-industrial complex of the USA, that is starting a new cold war. The Maidan revolt was a USA organized revolt against a democratically voted president.
Why do you think that the cold war ended?? Ended for who?? As long as militaries exist, the issue of defending your military, and then your country will exist. We tell each other that the cold war ended, but for the world's militaries, it never did. And never could. The biggest factor in "The End of The Cold War", was the Chernobyl disaster crushing the Russian Economy. The costs that inflicted on the Russian Economy is never really talked about. Ironically, the foreign aid and assistance in decommissioning the nuclear submarines allows Russia to escape that financial burden and spend the funds elsewhere - like upgrading their military. The more things change, the more they stay the same. And the countries of the world are also financing the effort to encrypt the Chernobyl reactor - while Russia updates their military and prepared to "Annex" the rest of Ukraine. Russia has always seen conquering Ukrainia as a way of aquiring a warm water sea port. They've done it repeatedly, and now they're at it again.
@@jackreisewitz7219 True, the cold war never did end for the military industriel complex and the warmonger-bureacrats of the Nato. A country must be capable to defend itself, but the aim must be peace, and not hate for Russia and profit.
Love modern drama masquerading as documentary. Skip all the repetition, dramatic music, silence and fillers and its nearly six minutes of information. Almost pity the little drama queen narrator.
As scary as this documentary is, it is also very interesting, to say the least. Given the dreadful maintenance schedule of in use and standby equipment of the Russian state, this very important intermediate solution would not have happened in such a professional way. Given the alternative to this, the subs could have just rotted away and eventually exposed their dreadful horror onto our world. I am very thankful that Russia is accepting help from outside and will breathe a little softer once all of these reactor sections are safely stored above ground. seventy years isn't too long a time to wait for these tubular vessels to become safe, say one hundred years to be sure, but that’s much better than the alternative. I remember years ago when I first saw a video on the many nuclear subs just rotting away and still afloat, what a horror that seemed and to learn that something is being done about it alas, is a kind of blessing. My big concern now is how the CCP will treat their nuclear subs once they are no longer fit for purpose. I do not see them cooperating with any other nation to make them safe. They are just as likely to go dump them somewhere in the Marians Trench. 🤔Thank you for this video.
Tho I was not a submariner (surface U.S. fleet) my heart still go's out to the families of the lost Loved One's. And send a shamful message to the pig headed govt that let the survivors parish. My guess is for foolish pride, and or for silence as to what/why it happened.
I read the book, much more detail and back story. The lady was injected to shut her up for excellent reasons, most of which are covered in the book and few of which are mentioned elsewhere.
@@kiwibob223 I sincerely recommend you read the book as the answer is way too long to type here. It contains private opinions from the crews families and reflects on the economic issues also involved.
@@3tapsnu0ut87 What is the name of the book and the author? Because no doubt there is more then one book about this subject. There are excellent reasons to murder or jail any opponents of Putin too right? Please stay in Russia, or move there if you live somewhere else.
@@DutchmanAmsterdam I don't see a reference in my comments to opponents of anything. As for the book . . . . I read it not long after the incident, which is when it was published. It was years ago and IF my memory serves me, it was a blue cover with a great pic of the Kursk on the front. I don't recall the name as I'm not russian . . . . to Russia or anywhere else. You obviously have a different agenda on the subject, which is your problem, not mine. You may find some closure expressing more than just blame but then this is Utub!
This expert at time point 4:30 said that you couldn't find every soviet submarine. That is not true. The US navy by the 1970's was able to continuously track every vessel on the oceans and seas of the globe and everything below the surface. That was one more reason the Soviet Union collapsed. Our US Navy P3 Orion sub-hunters dropped sonar buoys over Soviet submarines on regular missions 24/7/365, networked with our US Navy surface vessels, submarines, and the Sound Surveillance System (SOSUS) plotted everything within ten feet.
The line from red October is accurate ".....sounds like they're towing a bunch of trash cans......" Russian sub fleet not the best engineering or build quality, great steel, better than most others, so deep diving boats, but as noisey as a rock concert 😀
How nice of the western allies to shoulder the cost of spent reactor processing so that the Russian navy could put the little money it had toward maintaining and later modernising its remaining nuclear submarine fleet.
@@battano Invading? Ahaha,you mean a country where current government came through a coup? A "government" who won elections by imp[risioning politicians without trail(like president of communist party)? A "government" who as soon as it came into power inacted anti-Russian laws? Do you know that Russia forgave Ukraine debt...TWICE ?! No,why would you,when you only watch headlines of Cun t network and similar. Did you watch burning of people in Odesa? Or perhaps pillaging of Maripool? No,I am sure not.In both cities,much of Russian population left due to violenece and discrimination. From 1/3 of Ukraine population,they are now just 14,8 % ! All thanks to a EU/US backed coup. But just like in Syria,Libya,Iraq,Afghan and so many other places,West never admits its faults and never drops its hypocritical act of being "humane"(while forcing sanctions of food and medicine to countries and people they claim they want to help,by supporting various terrorist groups when it suits them,by organizing and helping coups and overthrowing of legitimate governments and even OPENLY blackmailing other countries with whom they can do business and whom not !)
Thank you on behalf of the human race for your efforts. That geezer talking about his understanding of the subs and crew is hysterical .Why are we still making nuke subs here in Britain and other countries that's the real question our future generations will ask us?
Maybe the next subs will be by hydrogen. Diesel subs has to let the gaz escape so cant be underwater too long. Nuclear submarines are only limited by human needs like food and meds... Hydrogen after fuel cell becomes oxigen and water, so, much better than diesel, and much safer than nuclear. Hydrogen+food+meds+whatever, would become the new sub standard work time. If a hydrogen sub can stay underwater by a month, are already a great standard and are as silent as the nuclear are, electrical engines.
@thulomanchay Russia still operates 10 nuclear-powered nuclear-armed ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) They carry 16 SLBM each and every SLBM can deploy multiple MIRV´s making up a total of 600-800 nuclear warheads. - Sleep well.
@@ricardoxavier827 What do you mean, diesel subs have to let the gas escape? Do you mean that they can't produce oxygen electrolytically like nuclear submarines can with their surplus of electricity? And what did you mean to say in your fourth sentences? Because hydrogen does not become oxygen and water, it is oxygen and hydrogen which becomes water. Were you referring to hydrogen fuel cell based AIP submarines, like Germany uses?
@@pieterveenders9793 i was using just my imagination, but i research about AIP and its close. I was mentioning the use of hydrogen directly as a energy source to produce all the electricity. No diesel at all. Instead of diesel, green hydrogen by fuel cell. The sub can go up and fill air deposit with more compreced air for the hydrogen fuell cell. The sub go up for the air, and the hydrogen are the dense energy storage, without need to refill so soon. Hydrogen in the deposit inside the sub, and a second storage deposit, to compress air from the sea surface. We have the air everywere... ;)
As a submarine sailor in the 1980's, we know that we were in the safest place if there was a nuclear holocaust. We also know if that occurred we would have nothing to come home to.
Absolutely. There are lunatics in place on Capitol Hill that think the U.S. and it's allies could win a Nuclear War. NOBODY WINS IN A NUCLEAR WAR , NOBODY!!
@@theswede5402 all serisnouness though. in the event of total nuclear annihilation all heads of state would likely be decapitated or very few left. whoever's on a nuke boat after that kind of event would be on their own. every man and or ship for themselves. if you manage to survive this event while in the military it would likely be you and your direct superiors and thats it. lower enlisted a couple staff and maybe a few officers just a handful. and you likely wouldn't be getting paid anymore. so again every man for themselves.
@@justnsaliga8518 I could imagine whats left of the military and the politicians who made it to a bunker in time would be the new martial law government.
I visited Murmansk in the company of an official there when the Kursk went down. We crossed the border from Norway. Unfortunately I had recently had radio active isotopes inserted in my prostate. The sensors at the remote border crossing were really sensitive……..! The young soldiers were difficult to persuade with no shared language.
There’s sensor technology for radioactivity that is amazing I was working a super bowl a few years ago as we’re closing the road with barriers and fences i’m driving with a couple of guys from homeland security and one of my guys in my city own expedition they keep calling is there anybody out there that you see is there anybody out there that you see and they keep calling back are you sure yes and I turn around and ask what are they seeing or picking up despite the fact we are not part of the feds they tell me radio active detectors keep going off picking up a radioactive source I start laughing I know where it’s coming from The guy working with me and had radio isotopes. Injected for a procedure the day before we all start laughing I guess the sensors are working before that I had no idea how sensitive their equipment could be
WELL I THINK THAT WE ARE IN FOR A BIG SUPRISE WHEN RUSSIA CAN ONLY WIN THE WAR WITH UKRAINE BY USING NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND SOONER THAN YOU THINK
One of the primary reasons that German engineers are so well educated is because the school system in Germany determines the talents of its students at an early age. Will the student excel at the arts, the trades or the professions? Based on the child' abilities and personal choices, he or she will be educated in more suitable ways, and not waste valuable time and resources learning things of no use to him or her later on.
I had a German freind who was an engineer. She told me that what the goverment " picked " for your trade largely depends on what your parents did . If your parents where a doctor, you became a doctor . If your parent was a janitor , well you get the drift . Logical but is this realy fair for the children ?
@@scottjohnson9912 No, I agree it is not fair. Ultimately, it should be the child's choice. Thank you for shedding more light on the subject. If you came from a family of engineers, had an interest in engineering and had the underlying intellectual requirements, and you wanted to follow in the family tradition, all these elements would raise your skills and abilities, so the more of these factors that come into the equation, the better the results are likely to be. Early specialisation would certainly enhance skills, as young people are capable of learning things with ease.
@@kenbellchambers4577 thank you Ken . My late father was a master machinist , he was a hydro mechanic and worked on steam and water turbans. Picture Hoover damn . My late mother was a concert pianist and secretary for the Navy . As for myself I'm a mechanic , truck driver , heavy equipment operator and retired National Guardsman ( warrior poet ) now I'm a businessman and I can play the French horn . There is some evidence that skills are passed from generations past and I can see it in my life .
The fate of Kursk may very well be the fate that awaits Russia itself after Putin's terrible war in Ukraine! "We will show the world that we are still a super power!" Oh yeah! Bad maintainence, bad training and corruption all over! It is all about how it looks on TV.
Skip to 4:00 for information about topic. First 4 mins was just exaggerated build-up. And after that is repetitive and exaggerated. There is a minute or two of info in there, if you have 40 mins and think of all the repetition as adverts??
The biggest joke is on humankind! - If the theory put out in in the seventies proves to be correct that our moon was actually one belonging to Mars ? a Lifeboat if you will to bring to Earth survivors of a ruined Martian world? Maybe why Musk is so keen to go there? NASA has evidence of areas of huge radio activity on the surface and why is our moon perfectly placed in orbit? Why do we think it is hollow?
As a 58 year old I well remember the cold war, yet after forty years of peace one lunatic is threatening to bring this nuclear nightmare down on us again.
I like how these subs are touted as "the once proud Russian nuclear fleet, but now just rotting problematic hulks". Yet what would you call our old nuclear sub fleet ? I guess we (the US) have it figured out. Our old subs aren't rotting problematic hulks somewhere ? The difference is that there haven't been a lot of photos taken of our old, obsolete naval equipment spattered across the internet.
That's one thing about Russia and how they decommission nuclear submarines, they just cut out the reactor compartments and leave floating in their harbors
Bob Ballard's search for the Titanic was the cover story for photographing the condition of all the known sunken nuclear subs. Off of Portsmouth, the Thruster, was where they did the equipment shake down, for example. Finding the Titanic was done with the left over ship time.
@@SD-unlimited They pulled a similar sleight of hand with Howard Hughes and K-129, so it wouldn't surprise me if they actually did that with Bob Ballard too.
@@bigal3055 It is true. I was there as as a navigation officer and saw Prof. Ballards face when I pointed out that we were100's of miles away from the Carpathia's reported position. So it goes.
What do y'all think. Are they teaching us real history, or are they teaching us hypothesis that they say are facts. After doing some research, it would appear cats, dogs, humans and probably alot of other creatures lose their baby teeth. It's not a coincidence that these creatures have many similar features, including but not limited to baby teeth that fall out and get replaced. History has taught us that humans aren't related to cats or dogs, but biological evidence says otherwise. If the history they taught us is correct, that would mean evolution decided to "coincidentally" give this feature to humans, cats & dogs. A cat did't evolve to lose its baby teeth just by merely watching humans lose their baby teeth. Neither did dogs. The only way this trait isn't a coincidence would be cats, dogs and humans all evolved off the same chain at some point in time. Which means they teaching some b's in school. You decide.
This very well produced documentary, just because we can do build something for whatever reason, power, or wealth, doesn’t mean we should, those in position of power must think about the future, everything has its consequences, everything had a life expectancy, especially man made machines, how they are disposed of must be taken into account, as this well made documentary shows, it’s ashamed that such war machines are created to begin with, that nations create war machines for political differences, for economic advantages over others, it’s all about wealth and power, sadly, it’s insane, that humanity will likely destroy itself as we destroy earth environment for dwelling resources…
This docu and discussion seems to have me "fired up" (..apologies..) I actually appreciate engineers, some pretty smart people, including nuclear and aerospace folks. Amazing vehicles we're sending afar..I pray all humans can be as involved in constructive endeavors to preserve our own planet, BEFORE we seriously tinker with others.
In changing times polotical leadership over EGOISM USE OF NUCLEAR ,BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS PRIMARY and NOT their own citizens or HUMANS AROUND THE GLOBE .
@@MorganMadej in an article is stated: "The Submarine Delivery Agency (SDA) is responsible for dismantling 27 nuclear submarines - 21 of which are already decommissioned. Seven are stored at Rosyth in Fife, with a further 14 at Devonport, Plymouth." Published on Jan 24, 2022. So, 21 British submarines to be dismantled. Still a big number.
The US immediately decommissions and recycles them. Russia leaves them to rust in the sea until the international community offers to help out of concern of contamination.
@@delos2279 you are incorrect. They do defuel most submarines but there are a bunch waiting to be broken up and recycled. There is a backlog on the dismantling of several nuclear submarines. I counted 22 awaiting dismantling and recycling, so as you say, they are also rusting away, some for many years. It's not just a Russian issue. Check the info with names of the subs here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship-Submarine_Recycling_Program
It’s dangerous, uninformed and frankly obnoxious to talk about the Cold War being ‘over’. It definitely isn’t over, and in fact has been getting more perilous every day.
A superb, comprehensive and Riveting (haha) report; reassuring and also frightening. Dad was a uniformed Airforce reservist, mom a helmited civil defense warden- in the 60s; we lived a couple hours from New York City. Tense times, for sure.
enjoyable documentary but by god so so so much is absolute nonesense or grosley innacurate... it was gut wrenching for us in the submarine world of any nation when the kursk was lost we had the honor of being tracked and chased for 2 weeks the previous year but when the news hit about her our entire crew were very sombre uk usa french it doesnt matter what navy you are from it affects you all
I have to say I felt the same way you describe when the Kursk went down. I spent several of the younger years of my life beneath the waves and ice and you really do feel for others that lose their lives in the same occupation.
I find the most DW documentaries have a very notable anti Russia or China bias and take ever opportunity to get in cheap shots. This is a rare exception.
And here we are in November, 2022.Ukraine is destroying the Russian Military and it’s become very evident tge Russian military, equipment, drug and alcohol addiction etc. is not ‘modern’ in any way.
Good they included the Kursk event in the program. BTW, it was also a ( NUCLEAR) torpedo that a Russian submarine officer's only veto prevented launching against an apparant attacking US blockading fleet .(Cuban missile crisis ).
They similarly cut them up, and then ship the reactor compartments up the Columbia River to the Hanford Site, one of the most contaminated places on Earth, where the fast breeder reactors were built to create the plutonium for America's nuclear arsenal. There, they similarly line them up in a giant trench, really a great big pit, which is supposed to eventually be covered up, I believe. There's a movement for small, modular nuclear reactors for civilian power generation, effectively using very similar nuclear reactors, just a bit bigger. The question the arises - if this is the best the Americans and Russians have come up with for disposing of reactors, what will they do for small modular reactors (SMRs)?
I had the same question about the retired US Navy nuclear submarines. Not a word was said about them, which was disappointing. I was curious if the US faced the same challenges as the Russians did. I was also curious about the number of nuclear subs the US Navy has scrapped.
@@BrianZinchuk SMRs are supposed to be refueled and returned to service, disposal of the reactor unit would be pretty much the same process. I don't know what their lifespan is supposed to be. What stumps me is why either country doesn't refuel these naval reactors and use them as SMRs right now. They could take a lot of coal and gas plants offline today instead of waiting for all new assets to be built.
Back inthe 50's when I was going to grade school in the Catholic system we had a teacher....nun....who had us pray as the school day ended each day asking God to keep us safe from nuclear destruction ...for one more day....this was common in my school from grade one to seven....we had drills each day to hide under our desk in case a bomb went off in our city....now that was funny thinking that would protect us
@@daddy_1453 The ships are to far gone to ever serve again. It isn't disarming, so much as cleaning up their mess. In addition, Russia was always known to take shortcuts that make them even more dangerous.
If memory serves, the USA has spent $ 2T on social welfare since LBJ and the ' War on Poverty '. The simple fact is that it is impossible to save people from themselves. Plus charity doesn't belong in the public sector....
You know this documentary has a strong bias when at 1:44 the narator says (about the cold war) a conflict QUOTE "between Communist-dominated Soviet Union and the United States" Well I say: How about? Between the Soviet Union and the United States? Or Between the Communist-dominated Soviet Union and the Capitalist-dominated United States? Why the Soviet Union with a label but not the USA???? Because the documentary is BIAS that's why, because capitalism is considered good (tell that to the environment) but any other view censurable.
I suspected the most true or least controversial statement in this _docudrama_ was at 7:28 “…temperatures drop to more than forty degrees below zero…” when talking about Murmansk because -40° is the crossover point of ℃ & ℉, but it seems -40° was last measured at Murmansk in perhaps 2007 and -30℃ is generally the coldest it is for most years. It's true that it's colder during winter than the Kola Peninsula, which has an average winter minimum of -20℃. I'm sure this _docudrama_ isn't being loose with the truth in other statements⸮
In a US sub, once the fuel rods are removed, there should only be minor activated material remaining. The reactor vessel and piping are not made of material that is easily activated through normal operation. Sure, some reactors made in the 50's and 60's were dirty, but this is no longer the case.
Makes you wonder when you watch older documentaries that keeps repeating the communist vs democracy propaganda. Well what is it now? Crick crick crick......
It's still a cold war under the water , only now we have the Chinese trying to project their power more too. I don't see the coldwar ending anytime soon .
Why do they not seal them permanently with a concrete coffin type of casing for each one. Make no entrance just a sarcophagus. That way in 70 years they can unseal them. What do you all think. Either that or place 4 battalions around them each corner gets one maybe a 5th for the center. Until the radiation levels go to safe levels.
i remember tracking these boats and the games we played. I worry though of the remote parts of Polar Russia and all the hulls left across the North. Much has been pilfered already, and I am certain much nuclear material just not traceable anymore. Even before Russia's collapse bombs were 'lost'.
I bought a remote controlled alligator head from bass pro and took it to a few nearby lakes to 'drive' it around while I was fishing. It was actually pretty entertaining, BUT after a few days a couple of the local media showed up looking for information about a possible alligator. I can't make this up. Of course, I told them I saw it too, while my brothers hid the alligator in the cooler!
How would any terrorist get their hands on the material from an old sub reactor without irradiating themselves? This is such B.S. I've heard it countless times and it never made any sense. The dramatization in this is WAY over the top.
Stealing videos from everywhere, and expecting people to pay to see them. Sounds like something Donald Trump might do. Why do they have to make everthing sound so dramatic? And then nothing happens.
He doesn't mention the large number of last generation pure titanium subs with oversized reactors that started going "Chernobyl" and being abandoned in deep marine trenches when possible or just wherever. All of these subs have corroded away and been abandoned with they're mini-chernobyl plants on board. The sun rescue we performed in 2000s was one of these boats imploding under it's innate defects.
@@Militaria_Collector According to the in depth write up it was ALL the last generation...the pure titanium hills couldn't withstand salt water, it requires being made in a precise alloy with trace elements to tie off open electron shell slots. A level of technology only a hand full of entities even today are capable of implementating...
@@Militaria_Collector probably information normal people don't need to know, and those that do don't talk about it! I was lucky to subscribe to good info publications before they became lame! Business Week, the Economist, Harvard Business Review Quarterly, and Jayne's... Pre. W Bush and early W Bush years since then real information has become rare and exotic!
I have never understood why any humans would want to control other people, ONLY, ONLY, ONLY because of the evil in the hearts of the evilest part of the evilest hearts from the pit.
As a US Marine, I pray for the day we can hold hands across the globe.
The choices of our youth, become the regrets of our old age, when wisdom exceeds intelligence and ego.
Dig it!
That will never happen. Humanity is to greedy
Yeah hindsight is great
Thank you We all can't get on the same page because some are in the wrong Library the only books they have are filled with paranoia and aggression and domination many of us spend time in that Library but expand Horizons as we learn virtue it's part of growing up. love your spirit
Good thoughts, what's your take on Armageddon ? River of Life ? Army Air Cav vet.
"For 40 years the world teetered on the brink of nuclear war"
2022 - Here we go again folks...
idiots poking the bear that only wants to be left alone.
@@abcdef-qk6jf you must only watch MSM.. fact is usa did a coup in 2014 in ukraine.. installed their cia man.. and then commmenced murdering ukrainians.. also .. when the soviet union went away they promised nato wouldnt move an inch towards moscow.. all lies.. now the us doing in ukraine what russia tried to do in cuba.. we didnt let them.. and in fairness they shouldnt let us.. your propagandized.. your lied to by your own govt.. and your buying it hoook line and sinker.. putin is not the bad guy here.
putin didnt start this war.. the usa did.. but putin is going to finish it.. thank god for the us taxpayers sake.. someone.. even putin.. someone is saying no to the MIC looting this country and murdering millions.
fact is if the usa never went into ukraine.. no ukrainians would be dying rnight now.. also almost all the ukrainians killed by their own govt since the us backed 2014 coup would still be alive.. putin is not responsible for doing what hte usa forced him to do. anymore than we were responsible for any deaths caused by the cuban missile crisis. tho we did kill alot of cubans even a us president.. over cuba.. that was when they did the JFK coup.. the same monsters causing wars all over hte planet.. still there..
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Mega upvotes !!’
this is a fine documentary. even the overly dramatic narration can't detract from this truly epic narrative; all of us who grew up during the Cold War were acutely aware every day that we may not have lived to see tomorrow. awesome, top marks.
Duck and cover!
Kinda ripping in the Reds
Even though it’s not talked about enough and maybe not as much on the “Any minute” pressure it was back then but I’d say we’re in a Cold War (if you will) present day
Have you heard of the inverse square law?
¡Quite curious and interesting!
I do not know about the Soviet subs, but we did a final inspection of the Reactor Compartment before leaving for patrol and a sponge was used to soak up the condensate that had collected in the low spots. I did it twice. It was kind of cool.
Brilliant and Terrifying! Those of us who'd lived through the Cold War, are just glad to still be here. Perhaps this is the lesson for the entire world, "Destroy the enemy, and yourself at the same time". From this horror, there is no escape. And we created it. We can do better.
Is it over?
Putin is as crazy as any leader the USSR had.
Pakistan are islamic thinking and has nuclear weapons. The danger to the world are not the russians.
@@ricardoxavier827 Not the world ,
not sure if Pakistan can hit North America and if they did they may take out a west coast city or a few cities in the Europe , but the response strike on Pakistan would turn the entire country into the moon's surface.
Pakistan is not suicidal yet.
@@Crashed131963 yet... The last decades they educate all their children to become islamic extremists. They already are having issues with that, and after the brainwash, they no longer can reverse what they did to the new generation.
We will have bad news soon from pakistan, and we might see a india vs pakistan nuclear war when that generation of extremists get access to the nuclear weapons...
Afghanistan are controled by the pashtun ethnic, and the pakistan side of that ethnic will start to become extremist as well...
Baluchistan already started the attacks over the pakistan army, and it doesnt look good the next years...
Russia are the last of our concerns.
And if Iran trully develop nuclear weapons, even worse.
the Cold War was fanned by the West. The US aided Russia in the hope, Russia would exhaust itself, so it could be taken over easily, And at the same time defeat the Wehrmacht, so Britain could survive, when it was on the brink. After the war, the west treated Russia like an apprentice. It gave East Germany to Russia when Russias Red Army had already occupied it. How generous. Stalin agreed only cause the red army had to fight Japan and China in the East. And the US pampered the Nazis, took them to the US to work for them. To catch up with Russias rocket and missile programs.
My father was a Submariner in WWII Pacific so this topic is always of interest to me. What a miserable situation this is for so many people & much nature! Imagine if all that money, time, effort and expertise had been used for something positive for the planet and it’s occupants! What an Astounding Level of Waste and destruction just for deterrence.
🙏Always Remember the USS Liberty🙏
Must be why it's all volunteer and they pay the most, lol.
Remember the 9-11 attack. Islams war on freedom.
@@dave8599 Islam against our freedoms? They had the Patriot Act ready to go instantly
imagine what you could build with all the metal and copper and fuel and so on and so on with all the weapons they have built in the last 150 years since the dawn of the industrial revolution, its porpoise, it's reason for being created........to kill and destroy lives and where they live! think of all we could have done with that or are we worried about population control and who would gets to decide that. what a world we live in when we see ourselves as fictional characters, the hero's in a story when we are the villains........and If you have to ask to understand all of that then........
And the kursk an many many more so bloody sad.we always seem to forget that these machines are made to kill each over its almost unbelievable when you Really think about it
The Russians didn't raise the Kursk, the Dutch did! Russians didn't have the capacity for that either, a joint venture between Smit International & Mammoet Transport lifted and towed it back to Murmansk.
They mentioned the Norwegian divers, but not the Dutch salvagers.
Why?
the Dutch made up for their horrific 300 years of terror in Indonesia
@John Cliff "Shows just how unprepared they were if ever an accident happened . Or if they ever cared about."
Not easy to be prepared for anything when your economy has been collapsed under guidance of shock doctrine neoliberal economic ideologists combined with domestic oligarchs who stole public wealth and appropriated infrastructure for personal gain to the last nut and bolt after the dissolution of the USSR. No state with that level of economic crisis would be ready for anything.
@@DutchmanAmsterdam cheap video
im afraid
They waited till. Were dead before they have the green light
Lol what's there to spy on? Old Soviet radioactive junk?! Russian paranoia has no boundaries.
You can tell this was produced in USA, they repeat the same "factoids" every ten minutes.
Cause the attention span is too short in the target audience.
I think it was cut up to allow advertisements.
@@rogersmith7396 possibly but why does the guy keep repeating the same sentences again and again?
Would you forget the danger is radiation because an ad break occurs?
This type of narration is only seen in the US bud.
It makes it almost unwatchable for us, four of us just sat down to watch it and we ended up playing cards as it played in the back ground.
@@kiwibob223 Its a Discovery Channel style of dcumentary.
Need about 40 odd minutes of material to fit a one hour slot with adds in between.
Most often they barely have 15 minutes of actual written or facts so they stretch it by adding alot of footage repeating the same points again and again.
Its the Mc Donalds model of documentary making. Cheap and fast to make, large and filling but of little nutritional value.
Same template production line method that is rinsed and repeated to make a menu large enough to make it look like there is variety.
Thats why Discovery made big bucks and burnt to the ground.
Can’t subtitle when speaking another language. Cause Americans can’t read.
А американцы ржут над нами как всегда
@05:05 The Soviet Union did not fall 'overnight'. It was a long, drawn-out process. The United States and its allies basically out-spent the USSR during the Cold War. It took years, but it finally happened... but not 'overnight'. Retired USN submariner.
The CCCP didn’t invest in semiconductors. To this day only Japan and the United States manufacture Grade 1 semiconductors. China’s centralised decision making is making the same mistakes as the Soviet Union.
And of course NATO never stopped once the Cold War was over. Hence the current war.
@@IronWarhorsesFun You're blaming the current was (I assume you mean Russian war against Ukraine) is caused by NATO? I disagree. It's caused by that meglomaniac Putin.
Сами все распилили а теперь виноваты американцы )))))
This is absolutely mind-blowing. I trying to keep up with news, but this has completely stunned me. I've never seen anything like it.
You should watch combat approved and there’s a lot more documentaries look for ones in Russian with subtitles a lot better Then this
You should see how they store Biological Weapons from defunct Research Labs. In household Refrigerators with Soup Cans. If you really want to get scared watch a Doc on Lost Nukes from the Cold War. I think there's 4 out of 22 lost U.S. Warheads, fully armed waiting to detonate. There's 1 in the Savannah Lake.
Russians are power
Russia is a joke of a nation Russia can’t even win a war against Ukraine 🇺🇦 😆😆😆
Why do such documentaries repeat themselves throughout, as though their audience cannot retain information or images already presented? It turns a fascinating topic with some amazing footage, into an endurance exercise for the viewer.
They learn from advertising!
A ruination of education :-(
Agree. Sadly and annoyingly it's how most documentaries are made: replay a short sceen again and again with dramatic narration. But this one is good for sure
Because they are designed for broadcasrt media where the audience may not watch start to finish and does not have the option of rewinding.
@@1337flite Sounds like school :-(
We live in an age of channel hopping, therefore by repeating itself the documentary appeals to the lowest common denominator. The group that has attention deficit.
Moronic documentary that spends most of it's time saying the same things over & over again. Interesting subject ruined.
Love these documentaries! Keep them coming 👍
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Pitiful corny video which resembles a soap opera! The announcer has such a terrible script and delivers it so pitifully as to make one inclined to gag. Best of luck, but this is a rather awful format!
You know in a world war 2 cookery book, in the centre was first aid in the event of having atom and hydrogen bonds dropped in your area, it was quite surprising how small the area of damage was for an atom bomb verses a hydrogen bomb.
Hydrogen bombs were not even envisaged in WW2 and atom bombs only came into use at the very end of the war in fact they ended it.
The bombing of Tokyo was more devastating than Hiroshima in terms of causalities.
Tokyo was atom bombed?? Dang I thought it was Nagasaki and Hiroshima 🤔😆
@@richardschwarz7071 Tokyo was firebombed with conventional bombs. Estimated 130,000 civilians dead.
@choossuck k
Sorry, but this is unwatchable. The story is compelling, the overly dramatic production ruins it. a swing and miss in the market place of content.
Same thing is done to American subs in Bremerton, WA. Reactors are sealed up the same way and barged down the cost and up the river between Washington and Oregon. The machine shop I worked in at the yard had a drydock on either side. One always had at least a couple of subs being cut up in it at the same time.
I was at PSNS in late '90-'92. Got to see it first hand while the Vinson was in dry dock. Extremely fascinating, as I served as a sub hunter.
F F K S !!
Irresponsibility, thus, with a known unknown.
It's ridiculous, no wonder Earth's 'visitors' exhibit concern.
True and the tanks at Hanford have been leaking plutonium for at least 50 years and the U.S. Government will NEVER be able to CLEAN UP that area and the Columbia River, which is NOW unfit to use for drinking water!
@@Wolf359Actual I machined the prop shafts for the Vinson when it was in for overhaul around 2005 or so.
Good luck getting anything near this level of access to report on what the US Navy is doing with decommissioning its old nuclear subs...
Soviet era subs like the Severstal (Typhoon class TK-20) were disposed of using help from other nations such as the US, Germany, and others. They still retain most of the Delta class boats, and one Typhoon as a test bed for new tech, such as the RSM-56 Missile system
Wait explain dis
@@wrath2008 explain what?
American help😀😀😀
I worked on the engines on the P3 Orion ASW aircraft during a Navy enlistment in the early/mid 80s. Those Typhoon - class subs were monsters! They weren't very quiet, but they carried a LOT of destructive power in their hulls!
@@tefnutfps8329 we helped them sell the nuclear parts that could be used for nuclear power plants in South America it was done during a disarmament deal plus we had nuclear warheads we were decommissioning for more powerful ones and selling the old stuff was a good deal for everyone and they would be heavily guarded and accounted for and gave the U.S. and Russia a bigger foothold in gaining resources from South America through energy deals and building nuclear power plants
Imagine if Russia would've Westernized and become extremely wealthy and prosperous. This war they're waging is just wasting lives, talent, their legacy, and the Federation itself is at risk.
Sad to see this documentary knowing that there will be no reconciliation.
My god, what a stupidity this cold war was, and now they are starting a new one. We have to get save ourselves from those warmongers.
Indeed, we did all this to help them and now they build new ones and threaten to invade Ukraine because they think it's 'theirs'
@@MostlyPennyCat "them" are not "they". The USSR is not Russia, and it is the military-industrial complex of the USA, that is starting a new cold war. The Maidan revolt was a USA organized revolt against a democratically voted president.
not them, the US did.
Why do you think that the cold war ended?? Ended for who?? As long as militaries exist, the issue of defending your military, and then your country will exist. We tell each other that the cold war ended, but for the world's militaries, it never did. And never could.
The biggest factor in "The End of The Cold War", was the Chernobyl disaster crushing the Russian Economy. The costs that inflicted on the Russian Economy is never really talked about.
Ironically, the foreign aid and assistance in decommissioning the nuclear submarines allows Russia to escape that financial burden and spend the funds elsewhere - like upgrading their military. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
And the countries of the world are also financing the effort to encrypt the Chernobyl reactor - while Russia updates their military and prepared to "Annex" the rest of Ukraine.
Russia has always seen conquering Ukrainia as a way of aquiring a warm water sea port. They've done it repeatedly, and now they're at it again.
@@jackreisewitz7219 True, the cold war never did end for the military industriel complex and the warmonger-bureacrats of the Nato. A country must be capable to defend itself, but the aim must be peace, and not hate for Russia and profit.
Love modern drama masquerading as documentary. Skip all the repetition, dramatic music, silence and fillers and its nearly six minutes of information. Almost pity the little drama queen narrator.
As scary as this documentary is, it is also very interesting, to say the least. Given the dreadful maintenance schedule of in use and standby equipment of the Russian state, this very important intermediate solution would not have happened in such a professional way. Given the alternative to this, the subs could have just rotted away and eventually exposed their dreadful horror onto our world. I am very thankful that Russia is accepting help from outside and will breathe a little softer once all of these reactor sections are safely stored above ground. seventy years isn't too long a time to wait for these tubular vessels to become safe, say one hundred years to be sure, but that’s much better than the alternative. I remember years ago when I first saw a video on the many nuclear subs just rotting away and still afloat, what a horror that seemed and to learn that something is being done about it alas, is a kind of blessing. My big concern now is how the CCP will treat their nuclear subs once they are no longer fit for purpose. I do not see them cooperating with any other nation to make them safe. They are just as likely to go dump them somewhere in the Marians Trench. 🤔Thank you for this video.
The CCP part? They'd more than likely dump their sub's of the coast of Taiwan or Japan.
It not just a Russian problem the USA has lost that's right lost multiple nuclear bombs. Not to mention the old test sites.
Can't wait for disclosure
russia is the main problem, too egoistic but refuse to admit. they will cause on themselves nuclear armageddon
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Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
Great documentary.
Tho I was not a submariner (surface U.S. fleet) my heart still go's out to the families of the lost Loved One's. And send a shamful message to the pig headed govt that let the survivors parish.
My guess is for foolish pride, and or for silence as to what/why it happened.
I read the book, much more detail and back story. The lady was injected to shut her up for excellent reasons, most of which are covered in the book and few of which are mentioned elsewhere.
@@3tapsnu0ut87 what are the excellent reasons?
@@kiwibob223 I sincerely recommend you read the book as the answer is way too long to type here. It contains private opinions from the crews families and reflects on the economic issues also involved.
@@3tapsnu0ut87 What is the name of the book and the author? Because no doubt there is more then one book about this subject.
There are excellent reasons to murder or jail any opponents of Putin too right? Please stay in Russia, or move there if you live somewhere else.
@@DutchmanAmsterdam I don't see a reference in my comments to opponents of anything. As for the book . . . . I read it not long after the incident, which is when it was published.
It was years ago and IF my memory serves me, it was a blue cover with a great pic of the Kursk on the front. I don't recall the name as I'm not russian . . . . to Russia or anywhere else.
You obviously have a different agenda on the subject, which is your problem, not mine.
You may find some closure expressing more than just blame but then this is Utub!
Russia never had a care about humanity, or their sailors.
This expert at time point 4:30 said that you couldn't find every soviet submarine. That is not true. The US navy by the 1970's was able to continuously track every vessel on the oceans and seas of the globe and everything below the surface. That was one more reason the Soviet Union collapsed. Our US Navy P3 Orion sub-hunters dropped sonar buoys over Soviet submarines on regular missions 24/7/365, networked with our US Navy surface vessels, submarines, and the Sound Surveillance System (SOSUS) plotted everything within ten feet.
How do you know these things? I would like to read up.
...destroying them once you find them BEFORE they empty their tubes is a bit more daunting.
Crnt arg with that
The line from red October is accurate
".....sounds like they're towing a bunch of trash cans......"
Russian sub fleet not the best engineering or build quality, great steel, better than most others, so deep diving boats, but as noisey as a rock concert 😀
Yes, that is correct. I served with two VP squadrons, as an acoustic operator.
No more P-3s. The P-8 Poseidon is the replacement.
stupid snow monkey Russians
How nice of the western allies to shoulder the cost of spent reactor processing so that the Russian navy could put the little money it had toward maintaining and later modernising its remaining nuclear submarine fleet.
Unfortunately Russia has always been irresponsible about this stuff.
Communism on display, communism has to be safeguarded by actual profitable nations.
Yeah meanwhile they are invading their neighbors who broke away from the communist party and have had their own nation for 30+ years....
@@battano Invading? Ahaha,you mean a country where current government came through a coup? A "government" who won elections by imp[risioning politicians without trail(like president of communist party)? A "government" who as soon as it came into power inacted anti-Russian laws? Do you know that Russia forgave Ukraine debt...TWICE ?! No,why would you,when you only watch headlines of Cun t network and similar. Did you watch burning of people in Odesa? Or perhaps pillaging of Maripool? No,I am sure not.In both cities,much of Russian population left due to violenece and discrimination. From 1/3 of Ukraine population,they are now just 14,8 % ! All thanks to a EU/US backed coup.
But just like in Syria,Libya,Iraq,Afghan and so many other places,West never admits its faults and never drops its hypocritical act of being "humane"(while forcing sanctions of food and medicine to countries and people they claim they want to help,by supporting various terrorist groups when it suits them,by organizing and helping coups and overthrowing of legitimate governments and even OPENLY blackmailing other countries with whom they can do business and whom not !)
Somehow they must make it even, just remember - they cannot print money
A very compelling presentation. Thank you. P
Thank you on behalf of the human race for your efforts. That geezer talking about his understanding of the subs and crew is hysterical .Why are we still making nuke subs here in Britain and other countries that's the real question our future generations will ask us?
Maybe the next subs will be by hydrogen.
Diesel subs has to let the gaz escape so cant be underwater too long.
Nuclear submarines are only limited by human needs like food and meds...
Hydrogen after fuel cell becomes oxigen and water, so, much better than diesel, and much safer than nuclear.
Hydrogen+food+meds+whatever, would become the new sub standard work time.
If a hydrogen sub can stay underwater by a month, are already a great standard and are as silent as the nuclear are, electrical engines.
@thulomanchay Russia still operates 10 nuclear-powered nuclear-armed ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) They carry 16 SLBM each and every SLBM can deploy multiple MIRV´s making up a total of 600-800 nuclear warheads. - Sleep well.
@@ricardoxavier827 What do you mean, diesel subs have to let the gas escape? Do you mean that they can't produce oxygen electrolytically like nuclear submarines can with their surplus of electricity? And what did you mean to say in your fourth sentences? Because hydrogen does not become oxygen and water, it is oxygen and hydrogen which becomes water. Were you referring to hydrogen fuel cell based AIP submarines, like Germany uses?
@@pieterveenders9793 i was using just my imagination, but i research about AIP and its close.
I was mentioning the use of hydrogen directly as a energy source to produce all the electricity. No diesel at all. Instead of diesel, green hydrogen by fuel cell.
The sub can go up and fill air deposit with more compreced air for the hydrogen fuell cell.
The sub go up for the air, and the hydrogen are the dense energy storage, without need to refill so soon.
Hydrogen in the deposit inside the sub, and a second storage deposit, to compress air from the sea surface.
We have the air everywere... ;)
@@belledetector what about America 66 nuke boats all have 16 trident each sleep vaporized lol
No mention of that grieving mother being sedated.
As a submarine sailor in the 1980's, we know that we were in the safest place if there was a nuclear holocaust. We also know if that occurred we would have nothing to come home to.
Absolutely. There are lunatics in place on Capitol Hill that think the U.S. and it's allies could win a Nuclear War. NOBODY WINS IN A NUCLEAR WAR , NOBODY!!
What was the plan for the crew in the event of nuclear war? That you return to some base after the reactor needs refueling and stay there or?
@@theswede5402 ah yes come back to refuel your nuclear reactor in 50 years.
@@theswede5402 all serisnouness though. in the event of total nuclear annihilation all heads of state would likely be decapitated or very few left. whoever's on a nuke boat after that kind of event would be on their own. every man and or ship for themselves. if you manage to survive this event while in the military it would likely be you and your direct superiors and thats it. lower enlisted a couple staff and maybe a few officers just a handful. and you likely wouldn't be getting paid anymore. so again every man for themselves.
@@justnsaliga8518 I could imagine whats left of the military and the politicians who made it to a bunker in time would be the new martial law government.
Do you think this is dangerous and radioactive? Must have missed it.
Thank You for this GREAT VIDEO!
Typical Russians leaving nuclear reactors rotting in the water, next they'll probably invade Ukraine.
I visited Murmansk in the company of an official there when the Kursk went down. We crossed the border from Norway. Unfortunately I had recently had radio active isotopes inserted in my prostate. The sensors at the remote border crossing were really sensitive……..! The young soldiers were difficult to persuade with no shared language.
Or maybe they were told to pretend they don't understand. Just because they look confused doesn't mean they are confused.
There’s sensor technology for radioactivity that is amazing I was working a super bowl a few years ago as we’re closing the road with barriers and fences i’m driving with a couple of guys from homeland security and one of my guys in my city own expedition they keep calling is there anybody out there that you see is there anybody out there that you see and they keep calling back are you sure yes and I turn around and ask what are they seeing or picking up despite the fact we are not part of the feds they tell me radio active detectors keep going off picking up a radioactive source I start laughing I know where it’s coming from The guy working with me and had radio isotopes. Injected for a procedure the day before we all start laughing I guess the sensors are working before that I had no idea how sensitive their equipment could be
This belongs on the “It didn’t happen channel”
@@LS-rw9yp Mmm k
Huh?
WELL I THINK THAT WE ARE IN FOR A BIG SUPRISE WHEN RUSSIA CAN ONLY WIN THE WAR WITH UKRAINE BY USING NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND SOONER THAN YOU THINK
One of the primary reasons that German engineers are so well educated is because the school system in Germany determines the talents of its students at an early age. Will the student excel at the arts, the trades or the professions? Based on the child' abilities and personal choices, he or she will be educated in more suitable ways, and not waste valuable time and resources learning things of no use to him or her later on.
Well I never!!
What a good idea :-)
I had a German freind who was an engineer. She told me that what the goverment " picked " for your trade largely depends on what your parents did . If your parents where a doctor, you became a doctor . If your parent was a janitor , well you get the drift . Logical but is this realy fair for the children ?
@@scottjohnson9912 No, I agree it is not fair. Ultimately, it should be the child's choice. Thank you for shedding more light on the subject. If you came from a family of engineers, had an interest in engineering and had the underlying intellectual requirements, and you wanted to follow in the family tradition, all these elements would raise your skills and abilities, so the more of these factors that come into the equation, the better the results are likely to be. Early specialisation would certainly enhance skills, as young people are capable of learning things with ease.
@@kenbellchambers4577 thank you Ken . My late father was a master machinist , he was a hydro mechanic and worked on steam and water turbans. Picture Hoover damn . My late mother was a concert pianist and secretary for the Navy . As for myself I'm a mechanic , truck driver , heavy equipment operator and retired National Guardsman ( warrior poet ) now I'm a businessman and I can play the French horn . There is some evidence that skills are passed from generations past and I can see it in my life .
@@scottjohnson9912 It is still a good idea but many good ideas don't make it to fruition for one reason or another.
The fate of Kursk may very well be the fate that awaits Russia itself after Putin's terrible war in Ukraine! "We will show the world that we are still a super power!" Oh yeah! Bad maintainence, bad training and corruption all over! It is all about how it looks on TV.
Skip to 4:00 for information about topic. First 4 mins was just exaggerated build-up.
And after that is repetitive and exaggerated. There is a minute or two of info in there, if you have 40 mins and think of all the repetition as adverts??
6:27 50mph is bit exaggerated too.
The biggest joke is on humankind! - If the theory put out in in the seventies proves to be correct that our moon was actually one belonging to Mars ? a Lifeboat if you will to bring to Earth survivors of a ruined Martian world? Maybe why Musk is so keen to go there? NASA has evidence of areas of huge radio activity on the surface and why is our moon perfectly placed in orbit? Why do we think it is hollow?
As a 58 year old I well remember the cold war, yet after forty years of peace one lunatic is threatening to bring this nuclear nightmare down on us again.
It is the only card he has left after the embarrassing ongoing conflict in Ukraine.
Let's hope it doesn't come to that
Stop pissing the bed ffs
@@russellwilliams3209 p0p
It wud b uk that wants the nukes, not Russia also fact😊
I like how these subs are touted as "the once proud Russian nuclear fleet, but now just rotting problematic hulks". Yet what would you call our old nuclear sub fleet ? I guess we (the US) have it figured out. Our old subs aren't rotting problematic hulks somewhere ? The difference is that there haven't been a lot of photos taken of our old, obsolete naval equipment spattered across the internet.
Yes they disposed them but still they as of today have 40 diesel submarine and 34 nuclear submarines.
That's one thing about Russia and how they decommission nuclear submarines, they just cut out the reactor compartments and leave floating in their harbors
Bob Ballard's search for the Titanic was the cover story for photographing the condition of all the known sunken nuclear subs. Off of Portsmouth, the Thruster, was where they did the equipment shake down, for example. Finding the Titanic was done with the left over ship time.
Are you referring to Portsmouth New Hampshire and the “Thresher”? Had never heard that about Ballard but it is interesting.
@@SD-unlimited They pulled a similar sleight of hand with Howard Hughes and K-129, so it wouldn't surprise me if they actually did that with Bob Ballard too.
Yes the “thruster”🤡
That would actually explain a lot if true.
@@bigal3055 It is true. I was there as as a navigation officer and saw Prof. Ballards face when I pointed out that we were100's of miles away from the Carpathia's reported position. So it goes.
What do y'all think. Are they teaching us real history, or are they teaching us hypothesis that they say are facts. After doing some research, it would appear cats, dogs, humans and probably alot of other creatures lose their baby teeth. It's not a coincidence that these creatures have many similar features, including but not limited to baby teeth that fall out and get replaced. History has taught us that humans aren't related to cats or dogs, but biological evidence says otherwise. If the history they taught us is correct, that would mean evolution decided to "coincidentally" give this feature to humans, cats & dogs. A cat did't evolve to lose its baby teeth just by merely watching humans lose their baby teeth. Neither did dogs. The only way this trait isn't a coincidence would be cats, dogs and humans all evolved off the same chain at some point in time. Which means they teaching some b's in school. You decide.
32:46 High tech stuff here, in Soviet Russia grandma is also nuclear salvage crane operator.
She also looked like the dockyards bare knuckle champion.
@@andywilliams1160 she is, local name mama bear, she can knock out a horse with one slap.
Lol
When NATO hits Russia eventually target these prize targets of old reactors as they insist on aggressing Ukraine and their nuclear plants.
This very well produced documentary, just because we can do build something for whatever reason, power, or wealth, doesn’t mean we should, those in position of power must think about the future, everything has its consequences, everything had a life expectancy, especially man made machines, how they are disposed of must be taken into account, as this well made documentary shows, it’s ashamed that such war machines are created to begin with, that nations create war machines for political differences, for economic advantages over others, it’s all about wealth and power, sadly, it’s insane, that humanity will likely destroy itself as we destroy earth environment for dwelling resources…
why keep saying red october??
This docu and discussion seems to have me "fired up"
(..apologies..)
I actually appreciate engineers, some pretty smart people, including nuclear and aerospace folks. Amazing vehicles we're sending afar..I pray all humans can be as involved in constructive endeavors to preserve our own planet, BEFORE we seriously tinker with others.
In changing times polotical leadership over EGOISM USE OF NUCLEAR ,BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL WEAPONS IS PRIMARY and NOT their own citizens or HUMANS AROUND THE GLOBE .
1,000 years before those reactors will be safe to open.
Both the US and the UK have the same problem with disposing of its decommissioned submarines and ships. This is not just a Russian issue.
But, they have more, don't they, compared to the UK
@@MorganMadej in an article is stated: "The Submarine Delivery Agency (SDA) is responsible for dismantling 27 nuclear submarines - 21 of which are already decommissioned. Seven are stored at Rosyth in Fife, with a further 14 at Devonport, Plymouth." Published on Jan 24, 2022. So, 21 British submarines to be dismantled. Still a big number.
But the US and UK are not banana republics. Russia is.
The US immediately decommissions and recycles them. Russia leaves them to rust in the sea until the international community offers to help out of concern of contamination.
@@delos2279 you are incorrect. They do defuel most submarines but there are a bunch waiting to be broken up and recycled. There is a backlog on the dismantling of several nuclear submarines. I counted 22 awaiting dismantling and recycling, so as you say, they are also rusting away, some for many years. It's not just a Russian issue. Check the info with names of the subs here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship-Submarine_Recycling_Program
Welcome to 2022 and we have Cold War II with Russia, and a hot war in Ukraine.
Really glad I found this channel! These videos have now become something I play on another monitor while being productive.
Russia looks so gloomy and kinda makes my stomach turn looking at it... Looks like a bowl of mushrooms n raw onions soup. These people are mutated.
It’s dangerous, uninformed and frankly obnoxious to talk about the Cold War being ‘over’. It definitely isn’t over, and in fact has been getting more perilous every day.
its old documentary
The cold war is over. What is happening now is a different historical era - I don't know what the current era is, but it is not the cold war.
Cold War 2: Ukraine Boogaloo
70s years..
Sooo you admit that nuclear contamination isn't nearly as scary and everlasting as we've been led to believe...?
A superb, comprehensive and Riveting (haha) report; reassuring and also frightening. Dad was a uniformed Airforce reservist, mom a helmited civil defense warden- in the 60s; we lived a couple hours from New York City. Tense times, for sure.
Duck and cover!
Inevitably, Connecticut
Riveting brilliant word helmeted civilian another good word you should write books
To stretch out the content?
...nuclear subs are WELDED!...not riveted. Riveting would guarantee dangerous leaks. Dumb humour, mate 🙄
Fake news. I think ½ of the information in this video is wrong. So it is likely that you get less informed by watching this.
enjoyable documentary but by god so so so much is absolute nonesense or grosley innacurate... it was gut wrenching for us in the submarine world of any nation when the kursk was lost we had the honor of being tracked and chased for 2 weeks the previous year but when the news hit about her our entire crew were very sombre uk usa french it doesnt matter what navy you are from it affects you all
I have to say I felt the same way you describe when the Kursk went down. I spent several of the younger years of my life beneath the waves and ice and you really do feel for others that lose their lives in the same occupation.
Yeah like decommissioning over 200 nuclear subs and ice breakers is a multi million dollar operation... Try billions!!!
I find the most DW documentaries have a very notable anti Russia or China bias and take ever opportunity to get in cheap shots. This is a rare exception.
And here we are in November, 2022.Ukraine is destroying the Russian Military and it’s become very evident tge Russian military, equipment, drug and alcohol addiction etc. is not ‘modern’ in any way.
When you pay your sailor $1,000/ year, that's what you get. A sub at the bottom of the ocean.
The ole "because you have it means that you will never have to use it" philosophy...humans are just weird.
Good they included the Kursk event in the program.
BTW, it was also a ( NUCLEAR) torpedo that a Russian submarine officer's only veto prevented launching
against an apparant attacking
US blockading fleet .(Cuban missile crisis ).
Very true.
I read an article about him.
Unsung hero of all time...
Where's the Union rep? =P
Didn’t think too many other people remembered him. Yeah pretty much most people living now oh him a huge debt of gratitude.
Excellent production!
What about the retired US Navy submarines? How does the USA dispose of their old and non-operative nuclear reactors?
They similarly cut them up, and then ship the reactor compartments up the Columbia River to the Hanford Site, one of the most contaminated places on Earth, where the fast breeder reactors were built to create the plutonium for America's nuclear arsenal. There, they similarly line them up in a giant trench, really a great big pit, which is supposed to eventually be covered up, I believe.
There's a movement for small, modular nuclear reactors for civilian power generation, effectively using very similar nuclear reactors, just a bit bigger. The question the arises - if this is the best the Americans and Russians have come up with for disposing of reactors, what will they do for small modular reactors (SMRs)?
@@BrianZinchuk there is probably no fish in the Colombia river. Europeans turned America to what it is now, with all the problems.
I had the same question about the retired US Navy nuclear submarines. Not a word was said about them, which was disappointing. I was curious if the US faced the same challenges as the Russians did. I was also curious about the number of nuclear subs the US Navy has scrapped.
@@BrianZinchuk SMRs are supposed to be refueled and returned to service, disposal of the reactor unit would be pretty much the same process. I don't know what their lifespan is supposed to be. What stumps me is why either country doesn't refuel these naval reactors and use them as SMRs right now. They could take a lot of coal and gas plants offline today instead of waiting for all new assets to be built.
I'm surprised the USA doesn't use Bikini Island since they radiated it with nuclear tests in the mid 40s, leaving the inhabitant radiated.
Back inthe 50's when I was going to grade school in the Catholic system we had a teacher....nun....who had us pray as the school day ended each day asking God to keep us safe from nuclear destruction ...for one more day....this was common in my school from grade one to seven....we had drills each day to hide under our desk in case a bomb went off in our city....now that was funny thinking that would protect us
Great informational episode. It is good to see that the Russians are doing their part in containing this massive BEAST.
And largely paid for by countries in the west, Canada, Italy, UK, Germany and of course paying the most, the United States.
Laughs in Chernobyl
@@daddy_1453
The ships are to far gone to ever serve again. It isn't disarming, so much as cleaning up their mess.
In addition, Russia was always known to take shortcuts that make them even more dangerous.
@@icecold9511 Exactly!👍…..Cleaning up the mess that was the colossal failure of the 70 plus year run of the USSR.
As soon as World War 3 ends, we'll get right on it...
Over-hyped, misleading, missing some important key details. Keeps fanning the flames of Nuclear fear to the normies, ridiculous!
So much wasted on weapons of death and destruction. But very little (nothing) to fight poverty, homeless, etc.
because Human Population has exploded, so the problems became bigger,
If memory serves, the USA has spent $ 2T on social welfare since LBJ and the ' War on Poverty '. The simple fact is that it is impossible to save people from themselves. Plus charity doesn't belong in the public sector....
homelessness didn't exist in the USSR
@@lunafringe10 Exactly so.
You know this documentary has a strong bias when at 1:44 the narator says (about the cold war) a conflict QUOTE "between Communist-dominated Soviet Union and the United States" Well I say: How about? Between the Soviet Union and the United States? Or Between the Communist-dominated Soviet Union and the Capitalist-dominated United States? Why the Soviet Union with a label but not the USA???? Because the documentary is BIAS that's why, because capitalism is considered good (tell that to the environment) but any other view censurable.
You said it, buddy!
Imagine if you are inside in the Kursk submarine and get sunk what kind of a horror it could be poor sailors RIP
Well now everyone knows now
I suspected the most true or least controversial statement in this _docudrama_ was at 7:28 “…temperatures drop to more than forty degrees below zero…” when talking about Murmansk because -40° is the crossover point of ℃ & ℉, but it seems -40° was last measured at Murmansk in perhaps 2007 and -30℃ is generally the coldest it is for most years. It's true that it's colder during winter than the Kola Peninsula, which has an average winter minimum of -20℃. I'm sure this _docudrama_ isn't being loose with the truth in other statements⸮
*Laughs in saskatchewan*
Underwater, it is a balmy 28 degrees F (the point at which seawater freezes)
Oh I thought that they sent them to the U.S to be converted into low income housing for black people.
RIP Brave sailors!
Typical Russians won’t except help and save the own men.. how dangerous are the Russian subs. Carrying weapons that might go off for no reason
In a US sub, once the fuel rods are removed, there should only be minor activated material remaining. The reactor vessel and piping are not made of material that is easily activated through normal operation. Sure, some reactors made in the 50's and 60's were dirty, but this is no longer the case.
I believe the Russian designs are more like the 1950s American designs than later ones.
The Lady yell about her husband was injected with something
I'm just glad the cold war ended long ago and the US and Russia are now allies and have grown great diplomatic relations in the past 30 years
LOL
LOL
Makes you wonder when you watch older documentaries that keeps repeating the communist vs democracy propaganda.
Well what is it now?
Crick crick crick......
It's still a cold war under the water , only now we have the Chinese trying to project their power more too.
I don't see the coldwar ending anytime soon .
You don’t know what your talking about where still in it don’t believe the lies
Why do they not seal them permanently with a concrete coffin type of casing for each one. Make no entrance just a sarcophagus. That way in 70 years they can unseal them. What do you all think. Either that or place 4 battalions around them each corner gets one maybe a 5th for the center. Until the radiation levels go to safe levels.
We lost many subs from accidents and equipment failures during the cold war , many us sailors died , it happens to every country.
Great show very cool thank you for allowing myself to watch it.
i remember tracking these boats and the games we played. I worry though of the remote parts of Polar Russia and all the hulls left across the North. Much has been pilfered already, and I am certain much nuclear material just not traceable anymore. Even before Russia's collapse bombs were 'lost'.
Greetings fellow Blue Nose!
I bought a remote controlled alligator head from bass pro and took it to a few nearby lakes to 'drive' it around while I was fishing. It was actually pretty entertaining, BUT after a few days a couple of the local media showed up looking for information about a possible alligator. I can't make this up. Of course, I told them I saw it too, while my brothers hid the alligator in the cooler!
[ 21:07 ] The "Soviets" didn't exist in 2000.
Fkg Russians - again!
How would any terrorist get their hands on the material from an old sub reactor without irradiating themselves? This is such B.S. I've heard it countless times and it never made any sense. The dramatization in this is WAY over the top.
Stealing videos from everywhere, and expecting people to pay to see them. Sounds like something Donald Trump might do. Why do they have to make everthing sound so dramatic? And then nothing happens.
He doesn't mention the large number of last generation pure titanium subs with oversized reactors that started going "Chernobyl" and being abandoned in deep marine trenches when possible or just wherever. All of these subs have corroded away and been abandoned with they're mini-chernobyl plants on board. The sun rescue we performed in 2000s was one of these boats imploding under it's innate defects.
If you mean the alpha...they didn't make that many. And the ones that were made. The west paid for there reactor disposal. Watch sub brief on UA-cam
@@Militaria_Collector According to the in depth write up it was ALL the last generation...the pure titanium hills couldn't withstand salt water, it requires being made in a precise alloy with trace elements to tie off open electron shell slots. A level of technology only a hand full of entities even today are capable of implementating...
@@jamesbowen2105 wow! I did not know any of that! Thank you for sharing that info
@@Militaria_Collector probably information normal people don't need to know, and those that do don't talk about it! I was lucky to subscribe to good info publications before they became lame!
Business Week, the Economist, Harvard Business Review Quarterly, and Jayne's... Pre. W Bush and early W Bush years since then real information has become rare and exotic!
@@jamesbowen2105 sad but true state of affairs!
Ut ooo .... Don't these silly Russians who sea levels are going to rise 500 feet by 2012 putting those things underwater lol
The Kursk part did not age well at all 😂😂😂
I have never understood why any humans would want to control other people, ONLY, ONLY, ONLY because of the evil in the hearts of the evilest part of the evilest hearts from the pit.