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  • Опубліковано 29 тра 2017
  • What happens when two strong-minded individuals from opposite sides of the political debate sit down for dinner? The BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme sent Made in Chelsea star Toff on an election blind date with food blogger Jack Monroe.
    Toff, real name Georgia Toffolo, says she had a privileged background and is a Conservative Party member, while Jack Monroe, who at one time was unemployed and unable to afford food, is a member of three parties, including the Labour Party.
    But did they get on?
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  • @siobhan_7386
    @siobhan_7386 6 років тому +429

    Toff: 'the harder I work the more I own' YOU'RE ON A REALITY SHOW YOU LITERALLY GET PAID FOR BEING YOU THAT'S NOT HARD WORK

    • @compendioussuccient6784
      @compendioussuccient6784 5 років тому +7

      How come you aren’t on one

    • @Doniedaff
      @Doniedaff 5 років тому +6

      @@compendioussuccient6784 Maybe she has more self respect?

    • @bogantellectual
      @bogantellectual 5 років тому +16

      @Etta James Harder work than nursing, cleaning, teaching kids with disabilities, working in a Chinese restaurant kitchen? Really?

    • @bogantellectual
      @bogantellectual 5 років тому +10

      @Etta James Notice how all the professions I listed are lower income despite being very hard work. Some below or at minimum wage. By Toff's logic, they just need to work harder and they'll earn more. Her privilege is showing, big time.

  • @reganlouisegavag9424
    @reganlouisegavag9424 5 років тому +338

    So embarrassed for her, getting her ideas about the working class from tv programs made to entertain and mock.

    • @caitlinbrennan9039
      @caitlinbrennan9039 4 роки тому +6

      I 100% agree with you Regan!

    • @archvaldor
      @archvaldor 3 роки тому +6

      @@samimorgan2252 Yes and it takes 100,000 benefit cheats to steal as much as one investment banker....

    • @kirkham111
      @kirkham111 3 роки тому

      Could say the same to you

    • @LightLife4
      @LightLife4 2 роки тому

      That's why I've believed that you should never form your perogative based on something that's either mostly or entirely fictional

  • @jeezyman1871
    @jeezyman1871 7 років тому +546

    it's quite astonishing how out of touch you can be with the working class

    • @stevechristie2569
      @stevechristie2569 7 років тому +14

      bboyy 1871 but people in the City work really hard!

    • @user-fd1cp9jt5i
      @user-fd1cp9jt5i 6 років тому +2

      When will Labour ever learn?

    • @allahspreadshate6486
      @allahspreadshate6486 4 роки тому

      I assume you're talking about about Jack Monroe.

    • @ol343
      @ol343 4 роки тому

      I am very working class and COMPLETELY agree with Georgia Toffolo on pretty much everything!!!!!!

  • @pl9995
    @pl9995 5 років тому +260

    toff - "most people on benefits are lazy cheats"
    jack - "city boys in suits and private members club"
    toff - "ugh that is such a stereotype!"

    • @owenwinn2821
      @owenwinn2821 5 років тому +16

      I'm from a council estate in the north and can confirm that a massive amount of people who are on benefits in my area do not deserve the benefits they are afforded by the government and abuse the system in order to avoid working.

    • @caitlinbrennan9039
      @caitlinbrennan9039 4 роки тому +3

      @@owenwinn2821 So what do they do instead then?

    • @laraimam241
      @laraimam241 3 роки тому

      Immigrants will come out and say outright that The UK is the place to be if you want benefits easily. It is abused more than one can comprehend.

    • @smcc5785
      @smcc5785 2 роки тому +4

      @@laraimam241 and how many immigrants do you know ?

    • @laraimam241
      @laraimam241 2 роки тому +1

      @@smcc5785 I watched one programme where a Romanian man (who had never even been to the UK himself) told reporters that it is a known fact that many Romanians go to the UK to seek benefits and that he knows numerous people that do so. Obviously this isn’t every immigrant but the ones on benefits have often come to the UK not for a job but for the benefits they get here that they don’t at home. It’s a known fact.

  • @colinglen4505
    @colinglen4505 5 років тому +145

    well, I really liked toff before seeing this but I've had to change my mind. she doesn't seem to realize that it depends what sector you're in which decides how much your hard work is rewarded. and her 'class' are more likely to get in the highly paid sector.

  • @alishak9425
    @alishak9425 6 років тому +327

    She’s been brought up into wealth and money and is so ignorant toward the poor and how people struggle with finding jobs and how people struggle with the lack of welfare they’re given. Like Toff needs to realise we all didn’t go to private school and some of us are growing up on benefits and minimum wage.

    • @samscamera3456
      @samscamera3456 4 роки тому +2

      im working on less than minimum wage at a p**i shop yet shes a millionaire and done fk all ahah

    • @rhyswiltshire5828
      @rhyswiltshire5828 4 роки тому +9

      What's worse, even after all Jack had said about being poor and having no money for her children to eat, regardless of what jack is earning know, toff still allowed jack to pay. To me that's sums up the right

    • @bellanoche6579
      @bellanoche6579 4 роки тому +4

      She’s Got money for hair dye AND tattoos, but says no money for food 🤔 interesting. 🙄 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @bellanoche6579
      @bellanoche6579 4 роки тому +5

      And was drinking a bottle of whiskey a day... well, at night to “get to sleep” who knows whatever else she drank during the day. But NO FOOD!

    • @laraimam241
      @laraimam241 3 роки тому +2

      I wonder how much her bottle of whisky cost, might’ve been enough for her child’s meal.

  • @acidbattery7532
    @acidbattery7532 6 років тому +161

    *says all people on benefits are lazy*
    Jack : * points out rich people get jobs through family connections*
    THAT'S SUCH A STEREOTYPE :(((

    • @kathybramley5609
      @kathybramley5609 5 років тому +7

      Ah, such double standards!

    • @allahspreadshate6486
      @allahspreadshate6486 4 роки тому +3

      Jack Monroe is quick to criticise others, but never seems to admit to any real shortcomings in her herself.

    • @allahspreadshate6486
      @allahspreadshate6486 4 роки тому

      @1996freddie - I've never been the recipient of nepotism but that doesn't give me the right to criticise others with impunity. What you say has nothing to do with my comment, so why direct it to me? Don't answer, I don't care.
      Also, how many tradesmen (for example) got their start through their dad? It's not just rich people who favour those close to them. This fact doesn't help your argument so you overlook it.

    • @jackmclinden6809
      @jackmclinden6809 3 роки тому +4

      @@allahspreadshate6486 it’s more like they helped there dads business and learned a trade not like they were borking into a 6 figure job with many resources and personal links to them

    • @notch7139
      @notch7139 2 роки тому

      @@allahspreadshate6486 yes she does, Jack is most self depreciating.

  • @owendish
    @owendish 7 років тому +231

    Productivity does not equate to wealth! This should be so damn obvious with anyone with a brain!

  • @princeofchetarria5375
    @princeofchetarria5375 5 років тому +53

    Toff is just so out of touch with working class people 😂

  • @tararocamora3784
    @tararocamora3784 7 років тому +467

    That Toff encompasses all the negative stereotypes of both the tories and posh privileged people

    • @edmundblackadder2741
      @edmundblackadder2741 7 років тому +22

      Tara McVeigh Notice she just accepted the other lady to pay for her despise knowing how much she had in comparison, I bet that was like that for her whole life.

    • @MrBlaxjax
      @MrBlaxjax 7 років тому +1

      @ Danny Well...Jack is pretty successful these days. She can't possibly be short of money.

    • @frankieashworth6942
      @frankieashworth6942 7 років тому +1

      Tara McVeigh she's fine

    • @colinglen4505
      @colinglen4505 5 років тому

      eve khan ... I thought the same as you but I've changed my opinion. and, I wonder if jack was so sweet because she was attracted to toff.

  • @lozzybozzy234
    @lozzybozzy234 5 років тому +79

    Thanks for speaking your corner Jack, And impressed by your composure, I certainly would have been quite frustrated in your situation.

    • @user-vh6ts9uf6c
      @user-vh6ts9uf6c 2 роки тому

      I bet you're one of those people who talks over others when you were the one who asked the question in the first place...

    • @lozzybozzy234
      @lozzybozzy234 Рік тому

      @@user-vh6ts9uf6c I'm not actually, are you?

  • @NaeemAmin
    @NaeemAmin 7 років тому +250

    Toff: "It's (fox hunting) a great old British tradition"
    Jack: "But, there are lot of great British traditions. Slavery was a great old British tradition"
    Toff, age 22, "really love politics" and fox hunting, lucky that she "went to nice school and live in lovely part of London", thinks poor people are lazy (not hard-working kind of people because she work hard and earn more), have been "member of conservative party for last 8 years now" (since she was 14!!!), hard for her to imagine how someone of her age can vote for Labour; mind you, she's not "stuck up".

    • @BossySwan
      @BossySwan 5 років тому +4

      Only idiots vote Labour

    • @mawgans7470
      @mawgans7470 5 років тому +5

      Naeem
      The slavery comparison is a false one though

    • @bogantellectual
      @bogantellectual 5 років тому +17

      Of course she "loves politics." She's so privileged that it's almost an abstract concept to her or a fun cocktail party conversation. Whereas for many people it's the reason they skip meals to feed their kids, or commit suicide due to a shortage of psych ward beds.

    • @BossySwan
      @BossySwan 5 років тому +2

      Elle Why If people didn’t spend their cash on smartphones and booze, they’d have enough to feed their kids 3 square meals and have a bit left over for dessert. Just needs a bit of tough love and budgeting support.

    • @emmyjo720
      @emmyjo720 5 років тому +10

      @@BossySwan You can't get a job or benefits without a mobile these days.

  • @Onyaanya100
    @Onyaanya100 5 років тому +161

    Toff is expertly demonstrating that people vote Conservative because they protect the wealth of the rich

    • @billslim1112
      @billslim1112 3 роки тому +10

      Tell that to the 70% of people who voted conservative, a large number of whom live in ex mining towns.

    • @barrycollins795
      @barrycollins795 3 роки тому +3

      No both of the party’s are there to protect the rich

    • @cliffdmb1237
      @cliffdmb1237 3 роки тому +2

      If only the rich voted conservative, they would not hold the majority of the seats in the commons.

    • @Sollatimer-Ed.southeast-
      @Sollatimer-Ed.southeast- 3 роки тому +1

      @@billslim1112 most of which haven't a damn clue! Turkey voting for Christmas with very short memories of what happened to their towns just 35 years ago.
      Stick Toff on a council estate in Totenham on minimum wage for a year in a rundown council flat paying bedroom tax, she will then see why people her age vote Labour.
      Says govt can't afford to help the vulnerable but no talk of tax avoidence until it was raised by the Left leaning lady.

    • @billslim1112
      @billslim1112 3 роки тому

      @@Sollatimer-Ed.southeast- So your saying the people who voted conservative are stupid and didnt know what they were doing

  • @ririririPXN
    @ririririPXN 6 років тому +41

    Poor Toff comes across as a person who never had an original political thought. Her party's line is Remain--> she votes Remain. The party switches the line to Leave--> Toff becomes a Leave enthusiast. Torries say let's fox hunt it becomes a great British tradition. Guess what will happen if Torries change their queue...

    • @LightLife4
      @LightLife4 2 роки тому

      This is one of the reasons why I don't vote for something unless I fully understand what it is I'm voting on and feel strongly about it. I don't do it based solely on influence

    • @georgielancaster1356
      @georgielancaster1356 Рік тому

      Tory party was more LEAVE. She has the intellect to actually get the vote wrong in a yes,/no choice.

  • @BedboundME
    @BedboundME 5 років тому +47

    Toff not so likeable. As they say never talks politics

  • @myelectioneering
    @myelectioneering 7 років тому +172

    Toff "The tories are getting away with murder". Yes, quite literally if you look at the tragic suicides of a number of disable people due to the cuts in their welfare benefits.
    Does she know what it is like to work 40-50 hours on minimum wage? Are they fairly paid for their work? Does Toff think she works harder than a full time nurse/policeman/fireman/shop worker/teacher? If rate of work was fairly paid in this country (I've seen Made in Chelsea), Toff would be paid roughly £2 an episode. All she has likely ever known is privilege and it is quite simply embarrassing to watch her take pride in her words.

  • @Lennon6412
    @Lennon6412 5 років тому +43

    Toff spends her life doing the most piss easy work as a 'reality star', she doesn't know what hard work nor real life for most people

  • @track2now
    @track2now 5 років тому +111

    I’ve watched this very carefully, treated it with due objectivity, have no particular personal political bias or affiliation, identify as ideologically neutral and have ultimately decided that this Toff woman has mashed potatoes for brains.

    • @georgielancaster1356
      @georgielancaster1356 Рік тому +4

      And the empathy and compassion of a snake

    • @JC-ko1bp
      @JC-ko1bp Рік тому

      yes she's a millionaire.... and you're you

  • @colinglen4505
    @colinglen4505 5 років тому +29

    oh my god! ... you couldn't make it up ... the rich girl having lunch bought for her. they're so used to being looked after by those beneath them. jack should have insisted on 50/50. tsk.

    • @emmahribar
      @emmahribar 5 років тому

      Did you ever think that maybe Jack doesn't want lunch brought for them.

  • @princeofchetarria5375
    @princeofchetarria5375 5 років тому +31

    Wow their interviews at the start and the contrast between them were actually a bit sickening

  • @grahamburbage7686
    @grahamburbage7686 5 років тому +61

    Did you notice how only jack thanked the waiter. "Judge someone by how they treat someone they don't have to be nice to ".

    • @seanypthemc
      @seanypthemc 5 років тому +8

      Toff says 'thank you' at 3:37 but don't let that get in the way of your agenda...

    • @natashamcd12
      @natashamcd12 5 років тому +2

      Sean ☕️☕️☕️☕️☕️😂😂😂

  • @user-uf9ft1fh3l
    @user-uf9ft1fh3l 7 років тому +62

    pointless murders is ok but a plant is deeply distressing wtf

  • @narendra62
    @narendra62 6 років тому +88

    I think the left winger is a lot more likeable and correct in the inequality debate.

  • @specialspiritkane3442
    @specialspiritkane3442 6 років тому +62

    work hard you earn, ask a factory worker lol

    • @wafflemakerx7652
      @wafflemakerx7652 4 роки тому +5

      detech venture yeah lol on a zero hours contract, fuck toff man

  • @TheJacqueeeline
    @TheJacqueeeline 7 років тому +27

    I actually love this so much, to actually give it a shot, being so open and understanding

  • @charliern
    @charliern 7 років тому +110

    'Drugs are drugs for a reason'
    'Foxhunting is a great old British Tradition'

    • @MichaelScott261
      @MichaelScott261 6 років тому +12

      Charles Norris the comment about drugs made me laugh as so many of the made in Chelsea stars have been caught doing coke

    • @loverace3785
      @loverace3785 4 роки тому +2

      😂😂

  • @F-J.
    @F-J. 4 роки тому +17

    I'm unimpressed that toff didn't insist on paying the bill !! Used to having others paying for her. 🤨

  • @LHMLHW
    @LHMLHW 5 років тому +13

    I love how respectful they are of each others views.

  • @theriddler3637
    @theriddler3637 7 років тому +41

    you should provide subtitles for people with hearing disabilities ,please

  • @isoladelstrother6314
    @isoladelstrother6314 6 років тому +35

    reminiscent of "let them eat cake"

  • @calloomdotcom
    @calloomdotcom 7 років тому +114

    and yes toff, they literally are getting away with murder 12:00

  • @highway2862
    @highway2862 3 роки тому +13

    Toff:But that is such a stereotype....Also Toff:Benefits cheats

  • @calloomdotcom
    @calloomdotcom 7 років тому +36

    looks like toff live up to her name

  • @BedboundME
    @BedboundME 5 років тому +20

    Amazing how the rich and privileged are so against benefits spending. What a mind set

    • @notch7139
      @notch7139 2 роки тому

      But I bet their Daddies have investments in tax havens

  • @ffrederickskitty214
    @ffrederickskitty214 5 років тому +30

    That Toff girl must be as thick as mince. I’ve been a care worker, and now work as a software engineer, and am married to a care worker. There’s no doubt that care work is physically harder than writing code, it can be relentless for an entire 12 hour shift. My wife earns a little more than minimum wage for her efforts, while I earn several times that. I would not pretend for a minute that I work harder than my wife; she’s the one who comes home knackered

    • @derkguez8590
      @derkguez8590 3 роки тому +2

      Its not about how hard you work but about how smart you work. You realized that yourself. The real question is....Do you produce enough value? The trick is to get a system in place that allows people to aquire valuable skills. The educational institutional complex, built by progressives has failed miserably. Rather than own up to that fact and reform, you pander to the working class and say vote for me, I'll take from them and give to you.

    • @PeachesandCream225
      @PeachesandCream225 2 роки тому +3

      @@derkguez8590 such a stupid take. If everyone learns the skills to “work smart” then who will do all the essential work to keep society working? Care work doesn’t create value but is a billion times more important than every other middle or high class bullshit job

    • @oneeyedgirl617
      @oneeyedgirl617 2 роки тому

      @@derkguez8590 what a fkin word salad..

  • @BrotherJosephus
    @BrotherJosephus 7 років тому +58

    Toff sounds like Lindsay Lohan as the British twin in The Parent Trap.

  • @blazednlovinit
    @blazednlovinit 7 років тому +27

    Much better than shrieking at one another. I don't like most of your stuff, but I liked this, thanks BBC.

  • @LegalizeTheNuclearBomb
    @LegalizeTheNuclearBomb 6 років тому +13

    Why is alcohol legal then? It's poison. If anything the government can put taxes on Marijuana if it ever gets legalized.

  • @maiqueashworth
    @maiqueashworth 2 роки тому +6

    Really nice to see them discussing in a civilised way, accepting each others points of view

  • @memeboi6914
    @memeboi6914 5 років тому +63

    “Slavery was a great old British tradition” I love this woman 😂👌🏼

    • @Paul2377
      @Paul2377 5 років тому +8

      @Nim Boo Not at all. If foxes need to be culled (and I accept they often do) then it should be done humanely. Not by people who dress up on horses and command hounds to rip apart creatures for existing.

    • @artificiallift9110
      @artificiallift9110 5 років тому +4

      Slavery was a worldwide tradition before Britain was the first country to stop it.

    • @arianrhodhyde7482
      @arianrhodhyde7482 5 років тому +7

      @@artificiallift9110 britain only stopped it after significant pressure, after doing it for 200 years, after instituting the almost-unique transatlantic slave trade (unique in the fact that it lasted for centuries, was rooted in racist ideology and involved people being sold into permanent slavery). not to mention that britain paid the slave-owners compensation but not the slaves. and when it came to the descendants of those slaves exercising their rights they were treated terribly...did you catch that windrush documentary on bbc 2 recently?

    • @paulw6183
      @paulw6183 5 років тому +5

      @@arianrhodhyde7482
      Slavery wasn't unique to britain though, it's been a constant throughout history, it's still a serious problem in africa. To call slavery a british tradition is pretty ignorant of history as a whole.

    • @arianrhodhyde7482
      @arianrhodhyde7482 5 років тому +3

      @@paulw6183 slavery wasn't unique to britain but it shaped and fundamentally changed the country and went on for a long time so you can call it a tradition. and slavery is a problem in britain too they just broke up a big slavery ring in the uk

  • @DrakeBurroughs
    @DrakeBurroughs 7 років тому +136

    "You're not horribly left wing, I'm not horribly right wing".
    Flat tax, fox hunting, Thatcher, slash benefits. You were half right and a halfwit.

    • @samarium557
      @samarium557 6 років тому +7

      John Riordan You can see where she gets her nickname from..

  • @dnbWORLDWIDE
    @dnbWORLDWIDE 4 роки тому +12

    "Drugs are drugs for a reason."
    Pretty much like saying Brexit means Brexit

  • @HugeStirz
    @HugeStirz 5 років тому +7

    She wouldn't know a days graft if it whispered gossip in her ear

  • @garyabbot4659
    @garyabbot4659 7 років тому +50

    thoughly depressing, so thanks

    • @allthewarsintheworld1823
      @allthewarsintheworld1823 7 років тому +2

      Hurrr durrr did you mean thoroughly? Idiot. Please don't vote. You're not intelligent enough to do so.

    • @garyabbot4659
      @garyabbot4659 7 років тому +9

      all the wars in the world As the only man on earth to make a spelling error I apologise. Spotting it never went to your head either. Your punctuation is awful but don't worry.

    • @S38RXY
      @S38RXY 7 років тому +1

      +all the wars in the world The cancer is strong in this one.

    • @allthewarsintheworld1823
      @allthewarsintheworld1823 7 років тому +1

      Rewrite my comment with what you think is correct punctuation.

    • @garyabbot4659
      @garyabbot4659 7 років тому +4

      all the wars in the world I'd rather think of how excited you were to spot a mistake 😂 must be a good life.

  • @mohammedfahad3564
    @mohammedfahad3564 6 років тому +37

    God I liked Toff, but this kind of changes my thoughts on her

    • @strangeways4530
      @strangeways4530 6 років тому +8

      Naem Khan I agree. It's funny while she was in the jungle playing mrs perfect she didn't think to mention any of these ignorant as fuck views. She knew the public would have her out of there quicker than one of her friends hunts a poor fox.

    • @chloemarie1409
      @chloemarie1409 5 років тому +3

      Same, she’s so detached from reality 🙄 ‘If you work hard, you earn’ 🧐 Delusional!

    • @miapendragon5931
      @miapendragon5931 5 років тому +1

      @@strangeways4530 maybe because her political views don't necessarily define her actual personality. It's a complete fallacy of association. Also, I'm a Celebrity isn't the ideal place for politics????

  • @matthewjames1188
    @matthewjames1188 6 років тому +20

    Toff is frustrating

  • @kh9234
    @kh9234 4 роки тому +6

    Toff is so out of touch , she comes across as someone with no life experience. She has NEVER done a days work in her life.

  • @littletraveller5428
    @littletraveller5428 4 роки тому +8

    Typical rich person let’s the poor person pay for lunch.

  • @hazzardalsohazzard2624
    @hazzardalsohazzard2624 7 років тому +19

    A pattern I've noticed from the social climbers is that somebody tends to get shafted in their climb to the top.

    • @stevechristie2569
      @stevechristie2569 7 років тому +4

      Harry McCusker tell us more

    • @ashmanaman13
      @ashmanaman13 6 років тому +1

      Yes, the less competent get shafted for the competent. We call it meritocracy.

  • @richardsinclair9449
    @richardsinclair9449 5 років тому +44

    Toff needs to get in the real world

    • @Picnicl
      @Picnicl 5 років тому +3

      Even in the real world, she'd just be a temporary visitor, like the objects of Jarvis Cocker's scorn in Common People. She thinks she's nice, that's the kicker.

  • @paulalaye6428
    @paulalaye6428 6 років тому +13

    Really enjoyed this video, wow jack well done for paying for this lunch and for being honest about your circumstances....

    • @georgielancaster1356
      @georgielancaster1356 Рік тому

      So the wealthy Tory happy to let a struggling woman pay. So used to sponging on the poor.

  • @praveeshachapman677
    @praveeshachapman677 Рік тому +2

    She's the last person to talk about working hard

  • @PlunderingDesire1
    @PlunderingDesire1 3 роки тому +56

    Real credit to Jack that she was able to build a rapport with and be congenial to someone so out of touch with reality and with such ridiculous views. I don't think I would have retained my composure nearly as well!

    • @user-vh6ts9uf6c
      @user-vh6ts9uf6c 2 роки тому +2

      Luckily not everyone is as politically insecure as you.

    • @lj4209
      @lj4209 Рік тому

      Jack is the one who is out of touch. She is awful, narcissistic and slimey. No sense of personal responsibility had child she couldn’t afford because she had casual sex, thinks drugs should be legalised as a spliff is better than a bottle of whiskey every night, thinks she can change her gender.
      Vile, attention seeking, selfish, lefty.

    • @susannamarker2582
      @susannamarker2582 Рік тому

      Why is Toffolo out of touch with reality ? Typical socialism, let's hate rich people for being monied and better schooled than us.

  • @adamroberts8726
    @adamroberts8726 5 років тому +10

    There's a difference between benefits fraud and signing on, benefits fraud is lying about your situation to get benefits, that's the one pc that she's talking about.

  • @khatuna801
    @khatuna801 6 років тому +234

    Toff doesn't know anyone who is working hard and still struggling to survive. Clueless.

    • @user-zd5bl2ir3c
      @user-zd5bl2ir3c 6 років тому +4

      Learn English with KT sure but you do know toff has a degree in politics and is very smart, she definitely worked hard and I don’t think you can bring someone down with first impressions, if you see her on I’m a celeb she is lovely, I think it’s all an act for the show but yeah yano

    • @LegalizeTheNuclearBomb
      @LegalizeTheNuclearBomb 6 років тому

      Ughitsnotsimple She's doing the exact thing on I'm a celeb. You think the way she presents herself on TV is the same when she is off air?

    • @user-fd1cp9jt5i
      @user-fd1cp9jt5i 6 років тому +3

      Working Hard =/= Having a shit job

    • @LegalizeTheNuclearBomb
      @LegalizeTheNuclearBomb 6 років тому +2

      You can work hard in a shit job though...

    • @user-fd1cp9jt5i
      @user-fd1cp9jt5i 6 років тому +4

      "If you want to be a bird, fly. If you want to be a worm, crawl. But don't scream when you are stepped on"
      This is the problem today. People lack initiative to better themselves, they find a naff job with little pay and long hours and decide to settle down in it. The common excuse is "But I can't find a better job, But I don't have the right qualifications" etc etc. This is a lie. In our lovely modern world with the internet all the resources are out there that you need to be able to make a better you. It is sheer laziness which holds people back.

  • @beckyholmes7896
    @beckyholmes7896 7 років тому +117

    "people that work hard earn more money"... erm.. what planet are you on Toff?

    • @claramills104
      @claramills104 6 років тому +3

      Becky Holmes how did she win I’m a celeb?! How!!!!!????

    • @alexjackson1948
      @alexjackson1948 6 років тому +3

      The majority of people voted for her, therefore she won; this democratic process seems to be very hard for some people to get their head around...

    • @KanyeWelephant
      @KanyeWelephant 6 років тому +3

      Alex Jackson I’m pretty sure she’s asking why people voted for her not that hard to understand

    • @alexjackson1948
      @alexjackson1948 6 років тому

      It's also very, very easy to understand that increasing numbers of the voting public really liked Toff as the programme progressed (even if they didn't like/know her previously). A simple question will get a similar response.

    • @claramills104
      @claramills104 6 років тому

      I wonder what people like about her as her views are very - -- gosh what can I say, very.....shall we just say she’s not very broad minded is she. Tally hoe the fox hunting tossers and all that...

  • @lakeshelor6159
    @lakeshelor6159 4 роки тому +6

    Something everybody can agree on: Nobody wants Dianne Abbott to be the head of MI5 😂

    • @samkennyenjoyit3669
      @samkennyenjoyit3669 4 роки тому +2

      Yes I agree but I’m worried she actually believes Home Secretary is the head of mi5 that’s not how it works

  • @JDSTUDY
    @JDSTUDY 5 років тому +13

    Toff is a typical Tory.

  • @politicalphilosophy-thegre3053
    @politicalphilosophy-thegre3053 6 років тому

    Thanks for posting, have you posted any more of these? I can't get through to your channel at the moment, maybe UA-cam is not allowing channel access.

  • @georgialillian4908
    @georgialillian4908 6 років тому +37

    Completely agree with everything Jack Monroe is saying, completely disagree with everything Toff is saying

    • @kirkham111
      @kirkham111 5 років тому +1

      Georgia Lillian of course you do because your brainwashed and indoctrinated with left wing agendas at school or collage or wherever it is you go

    • @wafflemakerx7652
      @wafflemakerx7652 4 роки тому +2

      kirkham111 excuse me, have you ever been in a foodbank and spoken to people. i want to cry

  • @jarvoh6256
    @jarvoh6256 7 років тому +124

    Toff, nurses are using food banks, and childcare/daycare workers are on an average of £7.09 an hour, and you still think if you work hard you get rewarded, the only people that get rewarded are the bankers that are typically born into the industry getting six figure salaries when nurses and childcare workers are scraping through life.

    • @tbilbeisi9251
      @tbilbeisi9251 7 років тому +9

      Nope STILL no evidence of nurses using food banks. Labour just won't let this fallacy die and have peddled it to death. The RCN have only claimed that student nurses use food banks due to 'insufficient' grants. I have yet to hear of one full-time working nurse that has resorted to using a food bank, unless nurses are gambling their money away in Ladbrokes or have eight kids, a dog and their neighbour to feed. STOP sensationalising this story.

    • @jarvoh6256
      @jarvoh6256 7 років тому +9

      you're an idiot, you've just said ''it's a choice to be poor''.

    • @phoenix-cw8vf
      @phoenix-cw8vf 7 років тому +1

      Jarvoh tell that to bill gates, someone who was in the shallows early in his life and see where he has come. look at Steve jobs who went from a nobody to a billionaire. care to go on? the left are just sleezebags who want the government to supply them with everything

    • @phoenix-cw8vf
      @phoenix-cw8vf 7 років тому

      Jarvoh also an idiot has better grammar than you ironically "your"

    • @jarvoh6256
      @jarvoh6256 7 років тому +13

      How are children in the UK meant to become the next Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, when schools are under-funded, that they can't get the qualifications to go to College/Uni. Also Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are examples that are 1 in a million.

  • @emgoodluck416
    @emgoodluck416 6 років тому +14

    I’m not sure where I stand politically but I was a brought up in a working class family and my parents are both labour. I agree with toff on some things but the other women is right a lot of people work there arses off and don’t earn a lot like my parents

  • @bobbuilder7227
    @bobbuilder7227 7 років тому +13

    "theres a reason why it a drug" lol

  • @dantaylor7344
    @dantaylor7344 7 років тому +10

    Toff? jes you couldn't even satirize this.

  • @blase057
    @blase057 7 років тому +102

    Fox hunting is a great British tradition? Lol

    • @crazyforcoffee5950
      @crazyforcoffee5950 6 років тому +3

      Zahida we fox hunt in Australia because foxes are feral

    • @TheGeorge2277
      @TheGeorge2277 6 років тому +2

      Yes, incase you hadn’t realised.

    • @TheGeorge2277
      @TheGeorge2277 6 років тому +5

      LifeAsShan the fact it being for the upper class is a myth. Fox hunting unites both the working and upper class

    • @charliep5731
      @charliep5731 5 років тому

      You’re not even british though?

    • @abcxyz-cx4mr
      @abcxyz-cx4mr 5 років тому

      John Wayne - Did she say she was?

  • @Iheartstarkid4sure
    @Iheartstarkid4sure 7 років тому +19

    Bless Jack for dealing so calmly with someone so ignorant

  • @jamesdrake2431
    @jamesdrake2431 3 роки тому +2

    When she says people who drive trains she should actauly now train drivers earn over 45 grand and on the tube up to 70k

  • @sarahconnor1932
    @sarahconnor1932 4 роки тому +7

    I really thought that Jack Monroe came the good here, well done :)

  • @melbourneausttours
    @melbourneausttours 4 роки тому +1

    i love there conservation....i wish them both the best in life.

  • @AboutLondonandUK
    @AboutLondonandUK 6 років тому +1

    What’s the name of this lovely London cafe? Does anyone know? Thanks.

  • @krumble8327
    @krumble8327 5 років тому +2

    Can't believe she didn't pay

  • @F-J.
    @F-J. 4 роки тому +7

    Omg. I didn't realise that toff is so far removed from reality although she thinks she is not. Get back to MIC.

  • @EamonnFlynn
    @EamonnFlynn 4 роки тому +9

    Toff isn’t horribly right wing? She might want to do some self-evaluation

  • @crazy4jbiebz
    @crazy4jbiebz 5 років тому +1

    8:30 🤣 genious 👏🏽 👏🏽

  • @keysersoze4322
    @keysersoze4322 7 років тому +21

    I watched Made In Chelsea once expecting to see some civilisation, what with Geordie Shore being the standard representation for the North East (where I'm from). It seemed the whole lot of the MIC cast are thick as two short planks (perhaps save Francis), living a life of luxury on the money they inherit, not the money they've earned. It was quite disgusting to see, really. The Geordie Shore cast are ill-behaved and probably just as thick, but at least there is a slither of entertainment in it.

    • @grime_garage
      @grime_garage 6 років тому +6

      Keyser Söze
      The difference between TOWIE, GEORDIE SHORE & MIC is that the GS cast members have improved their lives. Meanwhile the other 2 shows are full of people who went to private school yet still so stupid and ignorant

  • @andrewd9037
    @andrewd9037 6 років тому +3

    Wow, that was embarrassing. The way Toff jumped in when she was tying to explain the other side of austerity. She also relays her points as if they are obvious. That same facial expression every time. Ideologically shackled. This shower her true self.

  • @simple1883
    @simple1883 6 років тому +25

    I absolutely loved toff until watching this :( She is just another typical 'rich' person who has been brain washed by her upper class, privileged lucky luxury living life lifestyle. Maybe if she'd been put in a terrified fox's shoes, or a freezing home with just bread and water she might just understand the struggle some experience.

  • @stanleypines1026
    @stanleypines1026 4 роки тому +1

    Definitely some chemistry at the end there. Very weird

  • @colinglen4505
    @colinglen4505 5 років тому +6

    oh my god .. she says that thatcher is a hero of hers.

  • @fatimahhussain8913
    @fatimahhussain8913 4 роки тому +3

    Toff is a Tory she had a head start in life went to private school private hospital she is not aware of the unfairness of working class prop

  • @xzclaire
    @xzclaire 5 років тому +3

    Toff in her bubble for 16 mins

  • @MichaelScott261
    @MichaelScott261 3 роки тому +5

    This is probably the first working class person she's ever met?

    • @Victoria-iu5sb
      @Victoria-iu5sb Рік тому +1

      Jack Monroe is solidly middle class, went to grammar school like her dad and brother, both her parents are University -educated. Both her dad and her late paternal grandad (who she was close to) are/were multi-property landlords. Her grandad also owned guest houses and a restaurant. Her grandad left £1.8 million of 12 properties in his will and he died in 2012. Jack’s dad was also a very senior manager in the Essex fire service.

  • @sunjayroy312
    @sunjayroy312 7 років тому +1

    I feel sick.

  • @godsofolympus8938
    @godsofolympus8938 5 років тому +7

    TOFF IS 22? SHE NEEDS TO LAY OF THE BOOZE AND CUPCAKES LOL THOUGT SHE WASS 35!!

  • @xtraspecialmango
    @xtraspecialmango 7 років тому +33

    "I Love it they (Tories) are getting away with murder." & there you have it.

    • @vitocorleone7040
      @vitocorleone7040 5 років тому +1

      MintSauce ! Makes me feel sick hearing that

  • @lost-with-lennyescapetothe9312
    @lost-with-lennyescapetothe9312 5 років тому

    did great both of you :)

  • @julieholmes6222
    @julieholmes6222 2 роки тому

    "Trying to top myself in my bathroom because i didnt want to carry on " answer "yar" onto what she wants to say ? FFS!

  • @manuelpolanco6109
    @manuelpolanco6109 6 років тому

    And now she's on I'm A Celeb and everyone love her.

  • @987mattj
    @987mattj 6 років тому +2

    ''Drugs are drugs for a reason" xD

  • @emma190900
    @emma190900 5 років тому +4

    It is so crazy to me that people think of tax as punishment

  • @zingaro52773
    @zingaro52773 6 років тому +8

    Train drivers earn a lot of money actually.
    Im not a left wing voter, but I don't particularly agree with Toff. she is wrong about working your arse off (what would she know anyway really). The hospitality industry for example is appalling, so is nursing and even my field of healthcare doesn't pay that much to begin with.
    The UK currently has regions that have the lowest salaries in Europe, to the extent that it is matching places like Italy for similar jobs, and my italian friends have now gone home again because it really is no better. And these people, along with Brits, are bloody hardworking but you'll be waiting a long time to go up the career ladder.
    Also there are nicer British traditions than Fox hunting.
    Eugh god these two both spout a pile of rubbish.

  • @ridew3072
    @ridew3072 5 років тому +2

    I’d like to say that it isn’t Toffs fault she’s ignorant to the struggles of the working classes but it is her fault. It definitely is.

  • @LightLife4
    @LightLife4 Рік тому +2

    For two people who are politically opposite I'm glad they managed to create some sort of friendship

  • @ShizelMaNizel
    @ShizelMaNizel 5 років тому +7

    Jack Monroe is like a lesbian Lily Allen.

    • @wafflemakerx7652
      @wafflemakerx7652 4 роки тому +3

      James S im here for it,what a girl. SHE was the one who worked hard, toff was born on a country estate reciting latin to her oxford taught tutor, she has no ability to form a balanced opinion

  • @colinbaldwin8769
    @colinbaldwin8769 6 років тому +5

    Love these two. Great friendships have always been possible across a political divide. Winston Churchill had many great friends in the Labour Party. Being able to say what you think is right but listening with respect to opposing views. Everyone learns.

  • @ectz7219
    @ectz7219 5 років тому +5

    Toff needs to work a proper job for a week that would be a good show

    • @wafflemakerx7652
      @wafflemakerx7652 4 роки тому +2

      ECTz YES! A zero hours contract, so she has no idea what hours she’ll work and throw in trying to pay the expensive rent when you dont have some far flung scholars inheritance in your bank and a bunch of rich family friends with a lust for champagne and monaco. Add nasty housemates, expensive transport and a boss who just like toff’s family is an utter FAT CAT. politics is not a cat walk, but toff is so childlike and ditsy she cant understand

  • @jordandords1012
    @jordandords1012 7 років тому +1

    Feel slightly sick watching this

  • @BenWillock
    @BenWillock 7 років тому +31

    I'm guessing this was taped prior to the GE campaign... I'm sure "Toff" isn't laughing so hard at Jeremy now.

    • @orangetack1099
      @orangetack1099 7 років тому +4

      Ben Willock Conservatives will win a 100 seat majority, then they'll laugh! 😁

    • @12345langham
      @12345langham 7 років тому +11

      Orange Tack this comment is hilarious in retrospect

    • @orangetack1099
      @orangetack1099 7 років тому

      Alex Langham ye 😂

  • @tiffanizzle
    @tiffanizzle 6 років тому +5

    This was interesting, I think they both came off badly at some points but Jack was very good at keeping calm x

  • @jojo-ir9um
    @jojo-ir9um 4 роки тому

    I worked in Social Services....I saw generation after generation..getting State help...One 17 yr yr old told me she wanted a baby ???? I said well you need a job..she stated she could do what mom does...meaning Welfare....sickening..children are taught life by how the parent lives ...