Fun fact. I don't have this device but have already had a lot of fun with Leia Pix. I have taken my AI generated images from Midjourney and uploaded them for free to Leia Pix. It will automatically detect and create a 3D version. You can even give it some slight animations. There are different ways you can save the file. You can do SBS which is useful to take the image into a VR headset like the Meta Quest 2 to view it in 3D. I found the default file wasn't very high res in the Quest 2, but there are numerous sites now that do a great job of upscaling the images using AI. I was able to get it looking great. But even those that don't have a VR headset can experience some 3D with Leia Pix. You output to depth map and drag both images into a single Facebook post and it will convert it to the Facebook 3D that many of you have seen already on whatever device. Not really a comparison to what the Lume Pad 2 offers, but still pretty cool that you can do that with any image. I found that if the algorithm they use doesn't do the 3D as accurately as you would like to, you can edit the depth map version in a photo editor and get the 3D depth field exactly how you want it. Very cool free tool. Something to get you excited while you wait for this device to arrive or to get the money to afford it.
Yeah me too it's kool. Sadly I have vision problems I can't see 3d but I will use it 4 photography & making 3d art & android video games 2 share with my Homies & they'll think I'm Kool lol !!!
The most exciting take away is that this will become the new standard for ALL videos! Every youtube video, every TV show etc etc will all be in 3D!!! We have moved ahead a major rung in tech here!
It got the 3D sliders! And there is lots of content, you can watch all (!) UA-cam videos in 3D! Even the ones that are not made for 3d. It is some crazy AI magic that's going on.
I was sold on this device from other videos but your video is all anyone needs to be sold. I was expecting you to say Double Rainbow at one point from your excitement. 😂
Can you make a video about 3d movies and how people that have ripped their 3d blurays and have them in iso files or side by side 3d videos can watch them and if is worth it versus other 3d viewing methods? Thank you in advance!
You can set up to stream your desktop with HLS and play it on the Lume, where your desktop is converted into 3D. Super fast way to preview your pics in 3D when scrolling through your photos in Google photos or elsewhere. Google Earth works too. Only downside is the lag, can be up to 30 seconds.
I was wondering about doing something like this. Where is such a long latency coming from? Does it have any input for a wired connection from a PC? For example, displayport or HDMI out of the PC/GPU into USB-C via a converting cable?
@@brettcameratraveler I think all the latency is coming from the nature of HLS, as the stream has to be saved as a file, sent out in chunks. When I was looking into it seems like for any kind of HLS streaming (not just with Lume) best we can get is about 3 seconds. Wireless connection won't add any noticeable delay
i've been waiting for an upgrade to my lume pad, I hope mine ships soon! wish i pre ordered. is the warping around pop-out/negative parallax in 3d mode fixed now? so glad they got rid of lightfield mode and focus on just 3d so the resolution is much better, 1st lume pad has so much s.d.e.
Do you know the apparent resolution of the 3D mode on the Luma Pad 2 vs the Luma Pad 1? Also how do those specs compare when in Light Field mode? (Sounds like Light Field mode is still a thing after watching this video)
@@brettcameratraveler haven't had a chance 2 test but the res is double now, 800p i think? They ditched lightfield(4 view) mode 2 make use of the eye tracking camera which keeps the 3d focused in the sweet spot, like the Nintendo 3ds, it also has much better hardware all around
Now You have it all, except ONE THING that im a bit curious why You haven't gotten allready. A 3D VR camera so You can stream your videos in VR and all "listeners" - maybe rather spectators can see exactly what You mean looking at Your channel in their VR headset ❤ I have a pretty old one in 360 3D VR and back then You had to stitch video after filming, but today I'm thinking there should be some 3D VR cameras that can stream? Maybe the tablet can be used if this is the first one as you could videochat in realtime :)
I dunno if it did video calls, but this is basically the same kind of thing the 3DS has been doing for a while now, glasses free 3D, and it really is very cool. Kind of funny to see you so hyped for it right now--in a good way. Interestingly, this is also kinda how I've used my VR headset on many occasions, obviously for watching stereoscopic 3D movies on a giant virtual cinema screen, but also for playing say old GameCube games in full stereoscopic 3D on a giant virtual screen too, even though they were never made for it in the first place. Playing Eternal Darkness on a giant virtual cinema screen in full stereoscopic 3D via Bigscreen makes it feel totally fresh and exciting again, and just looks so cool to boot. I can't believe way more developers haven't done the same thing with their 2D games to be honest. It's pretty much just an extension of what M2 did with the Sega Ages range for 3DS. And most 2D and 3D games could be made to work like this pretty easily. Maybe this will be the start of all these companies finally grasping the bigger picture with good use of stereoscopic 3D. . . .
Devs skipped 3D support because 3D TV failed and monitors didnt exist. you are probabaly the first I read confirming both movies and game 3D Work in VR headsets.
@@635574 And they work brilliantly at that. I don't mean in some compromised way either. If you have a good VR headset, you can get cinema quality stereoscopic 3D movies in VR*. And, just because of the way the screen and lenses work, not only is the picture brighter than the way 3D currently is in cinemas, but you also don't perceive the edges of the glasses anywhere near as much as you do the ones at the cinema either. Side note: I haven't been able to see the last three 3D movies I've tried to watch in the cinema properly. And I viewed them in three different cinemas on three different screens. So either the tech has changed or my eyes have suddenly stopped being able to see 3D in the cinema even though I could see it perfectly fine only a few years ago. But, in VR, I can still see it perfectly. Strange but true. And, when it comes to stereoscopic 3D gaming, so long as the developer implements it properly, it can do perfect stereoscopic 3D versions of more traditional games. I've played Virtual Boy, 3DS, Wii and GameCube games all in full stereoscopic 3D. Again, I am kinda shocked more game developers haven't figured out the absolutely enormous potential here. I mean, honestly, playing Eternal Darkness like this--imagine sitting in your own private virtual cinema with the game running in stereoscopic 3D on a giant cinema screen--it's just stunning. *You also might be surprised that the stereoscopic 3D versions of old 2D movies like The Lion King (the original) and Beauty and the Beast (the original), along with the traditional hand-drawn sections of the Spongebob movie in stereoscopic 3D, are actually some of the very best examples of 3D in movies I've ever seen. For whatever reason, that 2D art shown in stereoscopic 3D seems to look and work much better than pretty much any either live-action or cgi 3D movies. Bonkers but true.
@@inceptional You nailed it - the fact that there is no Disney+ app for these on the Quest2 is madness - it;s the perfect format. I think once tablets like this and AR take off then there will be more content ‘found’ and put on our existing systems,
@@inceptional what software do you use to get stereo 3D working for all these movies and games? Ive used reshade depth3d recently. Played mirrors edge catalyst on my 3D TV and it was incredible. My VR headset is too low res (Samsung odyssey plus), but I might try it since the screen would be massive, which is always great for, 3D. This is one of the use cases that I'm excited about for the Bigscreen Beyond headset.
Tried the Luma Pad 1 before it came out and just couldn't bring myself to drop the cash when I saw how much resolution you lost in 3D mode. Hoping to get my hands on the Luma Pad 2 to see how it compares in this way. Also curious how many people can view the 3D effect at the same time. (I ended up building a 12K 180 degree curved 3D projection room instead because I needed many people to share in a 3D experience)
Hi Brett! The portability of Lume Pad 2 is key so currently optimized for single viewer. Also, just as comparison, the Lume Pad 2 is 2X resolution of previous version. Let me know if you have another questions! Happy to help. - Marlon, Community Manager.
@ brett...how much did that cost ? Maybe u could sell instructional video or pamphlet that sounds pretty awesome I'd buy one !!! My friends would cry playing 12k 3d projector GTA5...!!! Me too lol. Minecraft would be awesome Super 3D blocky Goodness !!!
It looks fantastic, but my first thoughts are why is it when companies make something like this that they put the cameras so close together, wouldn't they get much better results if they put the stereo cameras at the average distance for people's IPD (distance between eyes)? like surely it looks a little be strange with the cameras so close together, I hope I get to try one somewhere near me.
You don't get it. The cameras don't need to match human IPD because the image produced on the screen is many times smaller than its real size. Think of a rat's eyes. A rat sees everything in 3D but its eyes don't need the IPD of a human because all that matters is a slight difference in image capture between left and right to produce 3D.
@@mitcherny6965 But what about if you want to take the recorded video and watch it in VR, I guess the designers are only concerned with making it work for the screen, but when I see a device like this I think oooh, that would be cool to record 3D videos and then watch them in a VR headset.
This tablet is based on the Nubia pad, they just released a new model with a better processor and memory among other improvements, is luma going to release another pad or this will be the last one and focused more on software?
The 3D video calls is cool, but I'd get the most use out of the 3D gaming - at least if it can work with any 3D rendered Android game and not just a select few. Second to the gaming would be the 3D UA-cam video playback.
Very cool tech for sure! But I have a few concerns about it: 1. How future-proof is it? Will the chat be compatible with similar devices that are eventually introduced by other manufacturers? Are your 3D camera recordings stored in an industry standard format? How about the device itself, does Lume guarantee Android updates through any specific date? What are the warranty support options? 2. How compatible is it with existing content? Will it provide 3D for some existing games like vorpX does for 3D headsets on the PC? How good is the 3D effect for movies, does it look as good as a made for 3D movie on a compatible Sony TV from 2014? 3. Are there any apps that let you look around a virtual world as you move the tablet around you? That would be especially cool for titles which require little interaction other than looking around the environment like Crow: The Legend on the Microsoft store. 4. How good are the hardware specs of this tablet? Is it compatible with a USB-C to HDMI adapter (i.e. does the chipset support USB Alt Mode)? What version of bluetooth does it have? Does it support WiFi-6E? Does it support LTE networks? How long does the battery last? How long does the battery take to charge? How good is the screen quality compared to the latest flagship phones from Apple, Samsung, Google? How good are the speakers? How much/what kind of RAM? How much/what kind of internal storage? What are the specs on the camera? Does it have all the standard sensors like gyroscope, accelerometer, proximity sensor and compass?
This garbage tablet is using an IPS LCD panel instead of OLED and it's also using the terrible Snapdragon 888 from the year 2021. 3D is meant for OLED panels.
9:32 haha.. you just KNOW Seb is so excited that he slipped that F word in there without realising for a second lol. first time i heard that beep in aaall the many years ive watched mrtv lol
Amazing stuff. I'm so glad we're getting good 3D tech that is glasses free. Seems like multiple companies are now getting involved, including Sony. When they get this tech into large 4K/8K OLED TVs, with multi-viewer eye tracking, it's game over! No doubt they are R&D-ing that behind the scenes.
I had a cool lenticular 3D display on my HTC Evo 3D 12 years ago, with dual 5 megapixel stereo cameras on the back to take 3D photo and video. The screen was 960x540 in 2D mode, but yeah - half that in 3D. It'd be interesting to see how a 3D lightfield display looks different from a lenticular LCD.
very promising stuff! i loooove 3d on my 3ds (and only reason why i still use one).. and i was veeery bummed out about the death of 3d TVs more than a decade ago. glad to see its resurgence!
I have this 3d pad already about 10 years ago with the polarised screen technically same 3d Christmas card 40 years ago. So I can imagine how you feel and I paid 400 usd for that. So it's not the first 3d tablet. But the hardware was too weak at that time. I will buy this new gadget
That open mouth, like a child again expressions, said everything about the experience 😜👍 and got me excited to look deeper. Would need to buy two though to utlize the video chat or can you video chat with someone that has a VR headset? (Of course his video wouldn't be 3D but at least it's halfways)
- So, my main use-case would be 3D sculpting and display, with the secondary use of watching 3D video. Do we know for sure that 3D sculpting apps will work while sculpting? Also… does it change ANY video content into 3D? I’m thinking of things like random porn and 2D movies. You say ANY UA-cam video is automatically made 3D - is that true for other streaming services? An affirmation of either will sell me on this. You probably already answered these questions, but I’m trying to tease apart what it actually will do from what I WANT it to do.
Oooh. Didn't think about that. But it definitely could using Androids ARcore. But it won't support 3D out of the box I assume. But it also seems quite heavy. So nothing you would like to carry around playing game perhaps. But if this tech would be in a phone it would be really cool!
I'm really excited. For the video calling feature and content viewing. But I would buy it for racing games. The Acer spatial labs monitor is very tempting but it is still quite small for a primary gaming screen. The Rokid max also sounds interesting for this usecase. However, spatial labs needs to make individual games compatible and rokid does not seem to support this usecase at all. So right now I'm still wondering what company will offer on the fly game conversion for any (racing) game to full fledged 3D viewing. Even VR does not offer this feature on non-VR games which is really a shame. If it did, it would make any flat game instant 3D which would have me buy the tech instantly. But true native 3D gaming unfortunately has not arrived yet...
Amazing! 1. If I play any video file, which I filmed on my vacations, can it make them 3D? 2. Are the 3D games from PlayStore like StarTrek converted on the fly? 3. It can convert only UA-cam to 3D or also any video streams from the Internet? You know what I mean 😂
Looks amazing! But I have a few questions still. Does it have access to the regular google app store? I'm not sure exactly how this tech is working, I'm assuming it's using face tracking to alter what the pixels are doing to give you that 3D experience. But this would mean it would not be able to work for multi users like group calls. How do the 3D video calls handle more than one person on one side of the call? Or any other 3D content consumption. How does the 3D camera quality compare to other 3D cameras?
Hi! It has access to regular app store from Google! How does it work? It's complicated... it's a Lightfield display. Please try to Google it, I can't explain it myself. Yes, only for one person in front of it you can see 3d.
I think things like this could be a bit of a game changer for VR developers, if they can make it work with development, imagine not having to take the VR headset on and off again when developing!
Love how you're thinking, Wolf! Leia Facetracking enables VR scenes to be viewed as a magic window. Connect a controller to move around and the front cameras actually let the user peer deeper and wider into the FOV of your scene. Feels very natural and immersive. Would love to see VR companion apps on Lume Pad 2! Let me know if I can help. - Marlon, Community Manager at Leia Inc.
@@LeiaInc Ooo, I would love to work on something like that, the systems would be tricky when it comes back to linking to the VR systems to make sure it works, while also being interactable with Leia, especially with an ideal goal of viewing it actively in editor but exciting
It would be great if there was also a parallax effect when moving relative to the screen. It would really give the illusion of looking into some sort of window. I'm waiting for this tech so bad !
I hope they'll license this tech to the big tablet makers otherwise it'll never take off. If everybody has to buy the same tablet brand then it's already DOA.
@@mixedrealityTV ok, but my question was more what happens: if there are for example two people looking, which one is chosen? person's choice is stable? Does the other one see artifacts/distortions or a discrete 2D vision?
@@g-10It will be the person closest to the display. Depending on where the secondary spectator is, they could see a normal 2D image, a sub-optimal but okay 3D image, or a shimmery but okay 2D image.
It would better that every hardware are 3D able with out glasses and everybody can create an 3D software, instead of 3D software than run on only hardware from the same company and it should open source.
If cinemas could somehow implement this it would possibly save them. Seems doubtful though as it would be incredibly expensive if the tech could even work in a cinema environment.
I just bought the tablet shown in this video and it is incredible. Worth every penny. But I am also interested in getting a ASUS 3D OLED. I'm guessing it's going to be at least 3X4 times the price though. So in this case you are getting an unbelievable impressive 3D tablet at the same price or even cheaper than other premium tablets.
@@josh_3D I have tested in comparison with the Acer Spatial Labs View 3D monitor. The 3D effect and the display performance of the Acer 3D SpatialLabs View monitor is very much better than that of the lume pad 2. I was (in comparison) very disappointed from the lume pad 2.
The 3D of the new avatar movie would look better on this tablet than it does wearing glasses and watching it in the theater. You can watch the trailers to Avatar 2 on this tablet from youtube and they are gorgeous
Hey Sebastian, can you comment on how/if this technology utilized works differently than the screen technology in the Red Hydrogen One phone? Thank you.
@mixedrealityTV FYI: 9 years ago (in 2014) a Hungarian company marketed the first-ever glasses-free 3D tablet, called the "Xes3d MD-A31S". Ive tested it and it worked great!!! Unfortunately the product disappeared from the market (reasons unknown)......
Frustrating to watch a 23 minute review, which just shows you being excited looking at something we cannot see. Specifically, there was actually no review in terms of technical detail, how it works, what the limitations are, specifications etc. Nothing! 🤔
Hi Greg, it is indeed more of a first impressions, indeed. They have tried to explain to me how it works but honestly it was quite a bit too complicated..
This seems to be a 2 camera view plus a depth cam z-buffer converted to a limited angle viewable 3d scan. This would have no way to detect small details in 3 dimensions. This "Unboxing" is not exploring anything regarding the tech. Seems like just a payd add to me.
I purchased the tablet (will be doing my own videos on it). the camera can detect extremely fine details and spatial relationships between very small object and crevices. We're talking strand of hair level of detail. The camera on this thing combined with the display is amazing
I don't care about 3D chat. What i came here for was the question: how this 3D tech works, what are the advantages, what the drawbacks? Can the screen be used for normal photo editing? Can more than one person enjoy the 3D? What are the artifacts of this screen when it's in 3D mode? etc etc... But almost nothing interesting. Very disappointed.
@@CHROME-COLOSSUS I didnt even show everything this can do. Because I thought the video would be too long. I didnt show you the 3D viewer that has Sketchfab built into it. I didnt show the 3D Viewer for 3D movies, I did not show you Leia Flix where you can buy 3D movies...
Do not buy! SBS MKV or MTS data Format from real 3D cameras like Sony HDR series or Panasonic doesn't work. Also MPO 3D picture format doesn't work. They have only their own eco system for 3D content 👎
Fun fact. I don't have this device but have already had a lot of fun with Leia Pix. I have taken my AI generated images from Midjourney and uploaded them for free to Leia Pix. It will automatically detect and create a 3D version. You can even give it some slight animations. There are different ways you can save the file. You can do SBS which is useful to take the image into a VR headset like the Meta Quest 2 to view it in 3D. I found the default file wasn't very high res in the Quest 2, but there are numerous sites now that do a great job of upscaling the images using AI. I was able to get it looking great. But even those that don't have a VR headset can experience some 3D with Leia Pix. You output to depth map and drag both images into a single Facebook post and it will convert it to the Facebook 3D that many of you have seen already on whatever device. Not really a comparison to what the Lume Pad 2 offers, but still pretty cool that you can do that with any image. I found that if the algorithm they use doesn't do the 3D as accurately as you would like to, you can edit the depth map version in a photo editor and get the 3D depth field exactly how you want it. Very cool free tool. Something to get you excited while you wait for this device to arrive or to get the money to afford it.
yeah, I do the same. It's pretty cool
Yeah me too it's kool. Sadly I have vision problems I can't see 3d but I will use it 4 photography & making 3d art & android video games 2 share with my Homies & they'll think I'm Kool lol !!!
Get the Leia Lume Pad 2 here: bit.ly/MRTV-LumePad2
Absolutely loved the experience! What are your thoughts about the Lume Pad 2?
The most exciting take away is that this will become the new standard for ALL videos! Every youtube video, every TV show etc etc will all be in 3D!!! We have moved ahead a major rung in tech here!
Glasses free 3D is awesome! Looking forward to it.
It just needs lots of content and 3D depth sliders on all apps
It got the 3D sliders! And there is lots of content, you can watch all (!) UA-cam videos in 3D! Even the ones that are not made for 3d. It is some crazy AI magic that's going on.
@@mixedrealityTV - Brilliant!
@@mixedrealityTV could you make a VR video using that 3D tablet?
This would be a really useful device for businesses to show things to clients.
Exactly. For showing 3d objects to clients this is perfect!
This is a gamechanger! It's so cool! And look!! You can see yourself in 3D in the little window! It's a gamechanger! It's so freaking cool!
Oh wow! This is incredible!
I was sold on this device from other videos but your video is all anyone needs to be sold. I was expecting you to say Double Rainbow at one point from your excitement. 😂
Haha, yeah it's such a nice device!
Can you make a video about 3d movies and how people that have ripped their 3d blurays and have them in iso files or side by side 3d videos can watch them and if is worth it versus other 3d viewing methods? Thank you in advance!
Check out DVDFab
@@chrishurstmagic I didn't ask how to convert , how you can watch them on the new 3d tablet and how good they look!
dude I just wish bigger company would start using this tecnology as well and make it mainstream ,especially 3d videocalls it sounds so good
It is great!
If you and others buy it, they will quickly become a bigger company. 😜
You mean a new 3DS?
Can you imagine this on a 30-40 inch monitor, now that would be amazing, like something from startrek in your room.
Yes, but with the eye tracking, it's still(?) a one person at a time, i.e. field of view/3D may not work well for multiple simultaneous viewers.
Such cool tech. We need this in a 32" OLED monitor.
If they had an external PC display that could do this, 28' of larger, I would by it in an instant
You might want to read up on Looking glass Factory as they have 32” and 65” version. However it is pricy.
You can set up to stream your desktop with HLS and play it on the Lume, where your desktop is converted into 3D. Super fast way to preview your pics in 3D when scrolling through your photos in Google photos or elsewhere. Google Earth works too. Only downside is the lag, can be up to 30 seconds.
I was wondering about doing something like this. Where is such a long latency coming from? Does it have any input for a wired connection from a PC? For example, displayport or HDMI out of the PC/GPU into USB-C via a converting cable?
@@brettcameratraveler I think all the latency is coming from the nature of HLS, as the stream has to be saved as a file, sent out in chunks. When I was looking into it seems like for any kind of HLS streaming (not just with Lume) best we can get is about 3 seconds. Wireless connection won't add any noticeable delay
It’s ultimate and very exited to see and feel my device sooner!
When will we get the full Crystal Review, with fov and through the lenses comparisons with other headsets?
Pimax is sending me their latest version, the Mass Production one in the next few days. Woohooo! :) But now back to the topic! Glasses Free 3D ! :)
I LOVE IT SO MUCH 🥰🥰🥰 AND I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL ❤❤❤❤
Did you upload some 3D videos recorded with this to look at on VR headsets on YT?
i've been waiting for an upgrade to my lume pad, I hope mine ships soon! wish i pre ordered. is the warping around pop-out/negative parallax in 3d mode fixed now? so glad they got rid of lightfield mode and focus on just 3d so the resolution is much better, 1st lume pad has so much s.d.e.
Do you know the apparent resolution of the 3D mode on the Luma Pad 2 vs the Luma Pad 1?
Also how do those specs compare when in Light Field mode? (Sounds like Light Field mode is still a thing after watching this video)
@@brettcameratraveler haven't had a chance 2 test but the res is double now, 800p i think? They ditched lightfield(4 view) mode 2 make use of the eye tracking camera which keeps the 3d focused in the sweet spot, like the Nintendo 3ds, it also has much better hardware all around
Now You have it all, except ONE THING that im a bit curious why You haven't gotten allready. A 3D VR camera so You can stream your videos in VR and all "listeners" - maybe rather spectators can see exactly what You mean looking at Your channel in their VR headset ❤ I have a pretty old one in 360 3D VR and back then You had to stitch video after filming, but today I'm thinking there should be some 3D VR cameras that can stream? Maybe the tablet can be used if this is the first one as you could videochat in realtime :)
I dunno if it did video calls, but this is basically the same kind of thing the 3DS has been doing for a while now, glasses free 3D, and it really is very cool. Kind of funny to see you so hyped for it right now--in a good way.
Interestingly, this is also kinda how I've used my VR headset on many occasions, obviously for watching stereoscopic 3D movies on a giant virtual cinema screen, but also for playing say old GameCube games in full stereoscopic 3D on a giant virtual screen too, even though they were never made for it in the first place. Playing Eternal Darkness on a giant virtual cinema screen in full stereoscopic 3D via Bigscreen makes it feel totally fresh and exciting again, and just looks so cool to boot. I can't believe way more developers haven't done the same thing with their 2D games to be honest. It's pretty much just an extension of what M2 did with the Sega Ages range for 3DS. And most 2D and 3D games could be made to work like this pretty easily.
Maybe this will be the start of all these companies finally grasping the bigger picture with good use of stereoscopic 3D. . . .
Yes, because this is better than 3DS! The tech has progressed quite a bit since then!
Devs skipped 3D support because 3D TV failed and monitors didnt exist. you are probabaly the first I read confirming both movies and game 3D Work in VR headsets.
@@635574 And they work brilliantly at that. I don't mean in some compromised way either. If you have a good VR headset, you can get cinema quality stereoscopic 3D movies in VR*. And, just because of the way the screen and lenses work, not only is the picture brighter than the way 3D currently is in cinemas, but you also don't perceive the edges of the glasses anywhere near as much as you do the ones at the cinema either.
Side note: I haven't been able to see the last three 3D movies I've tried to watch in the cinema properly. And I viewed them in three different cinemas on three different screens. So either the tech has changed or my eyes have suddenly stopped being able to see 3D in the cinema even though I could see it perfectly fine only a few years ago. But, in VR, I can still see it perfectly. Strange but true.
And, when it comes to stereoscopic 3D gaming, so long as the developer implements it properly, it can do perfect stereoscopic 3D versions of more traditional games. I've played Virtual Boy, 3DS, Wii and GameCube games all in full stereoscopic 3D. Again, I am kinda shocked more game developers haven't figured out the absolutely enormous potential here. I mean, honestly, playing Eternal Darkness like this--imagine sitting in your own private virtual cinema with the game running in stereoscopic 3D on a giant cinema screen--it's just stunning.
*You also might be surprised that the stereoscopic 3D versions of old 2D movies like The Lion King (the original) and Beauty and the Beast (the original), along with the traditional hand-drawn sections of the Spongebob movie in stereoscopic 3D, are actually some of the very best examples of 3D in movies I've ever seen. For whatever reason, that 2D art shown in stereoscopic 3D seems to look and work much better than pretty much any either live-action or cgi 3D movies. Bonkers but true.
@@inceptional You nailed it - the fact that there is no Disney+ app for these on the Quest2 is madness - it;s the perfect format. I think once tablets like this and AR take off then there will be more content ‘found’ and put on our existing systems,
@@inceptional what software do you use to get stereo 3D working for all these movies and games?
Ive used reshade depth3d recently. Played mirrors edge catalyst on my 3D TV and it was incredible.
My VR headset is too low res (Samsung odyssey plus), but I might try it since the screen would be massive, which is always great for, 3D.
This is one of the use cases that I'm excited about for the Bigscreen Beyond headset.
Tried the Luma Pad 1 before it came out and just couldn't bring myself to drop the cash when I saw how much resolution you lost in 3D mode. Hoping to get my hands on the Luma Pad 2 to see how it compares in this way. Also curious how many people can view the 3D effect at the same time.
(I ended up building a 12K 180 degree curved 3D projection room instead because I needed many people to share in a 3D experience)
Hi Brett! The portability of Lume Pad 2 is key so currently optimized for single viewer. Also, just as comparison, the Lume Pad 2 is 2X resolution of previous version. Let me know if you have another questions! Happy to help. - Marlon, Community Manager.
@ brett...that sounds frikkin Sweet !!! U should build me one or post a how-to UA-cam video make that Money!!!
@ brett...how much did that cost ? Maybe u could sell instructional video or pamphlet that sounds pretty awesome I'd buy one !!! My friends would cry playing 12k 3d projector GTA5...!!! Me too lol. Minecraft would be awesome Super 3D blocky Goodness !!!
Will you start recording your youtube videos in 3D now, so we can view them in our VR headsets (and on Lume Pad's)? 😀
I'm getting more excitement from this guy than the actual product.
Loving it
It looks fantastic, but my first thoughts are why is it when companies make something like this that they put the cameras so close together, wouldn't they get much better results if they put the stereo cameras at the average distance for people's IPD (distance between eyes)? like surely it looks a little be strange with the cameras so close together, I hope I get to try one somewhere near me.
I also had this thought but it just works perfectly!
You don't get it. The cameras don't need to match human IPD because the image produced on the screen is many times smaller than its real size. Think of a rat's eyes. A rat sees everything in 3D but its eyes don't need the IPD of a human because all that matters is a slight difference in image capture between left and right to produce 3D.
@@mitcherny6965 But what about if you want to take the recorded video and watch it in VR, I guess the designers are only concerned with making it work for the screen, but when I see a device like this I think oooh, that would be cool to record 3D videos and then watch them in a VR headset.
@@CC-Pi - Great point!
This tablet is based on the Nubia pad, they just released a new model with a better processor and memory among other improvements, is luma going to release another pad or this will be the last one and focused more on software?
The 3D video calls is cool, but I'd get the most use out of the 3D gaming - at least if it can work with any 3D rendered Android game and not just a select few.
Second to the gaming would be the 3D UA-cam video playback.
Very cool tech for sure! But I have a few concerns about it:
1. How future-proof is it? Will the chat be compatible with similar devices that are eventually introduced by other manufacturers? Are your 3D camera recordings stored in an industry standard format? How about the device itself, does Lume guarantee Android updates through any specific date? What are the warranty support options?
2. How compatible is it with existing content? Will it provide 3D for some existing games like vorpX does for 3D headsets on the PC? How good is the 3D effect for movies, does it look as good as a made for 3D movie on a compatible Sony TV from 2014?
3. Are there any apps that let you look around a virtual world as you move the tablet around you? That would be especially cool for titles which require little interaction other than looking around the environment like Crow: The Legend on the Microsoft store.
4. How good are the hardware specs of this tablet? Is it compatible with a USB-C to HDMI adapter (i.e. does the chipset support USB Alt Mode)? What version of bluetooth does it have? Does it support WiFi-6E? Does it support LTE networks? How long does the battery last? How long does the battery take to charge? How good is the screen quality compared to the latest flagship phones from Apple, Samsung, Google? How good are the speakers? How much/what kind of RAM? How much/what kind of internal storage? What are the specs on the camera? Does it have all the standard sensors like gyroscope, accelerometer, proximity sensor and compass?
This garbage tablet is using an IPS LCD panel instead of OLED and it's also using the terrible Snapdragon 888 from the year 2021.
3D is meant for OLED panels.
How does this compare to the Acer 3d screens you looked at in january?
Very similar! Loved both!
Awesome. Thanks Sebastian!
Welcome!
9:32 haha.. you just KNOW Seb is so excited that he slipped that F word in there without realising for a second lol.
first time i heard that beep in aaall the many years ive watched mrtv lol
Haha, indeed!
Amazing stuff.
I'm so glad we're getting good 3D tech that is glasses free. Seems like multiple companies are now getting involved, including Sony.
When they get this tech into large 4K/8K OLED TVs, with multi-viewer eye tracking, it's game over!
No doubt they are R&D-ing that behind the scenes.
Agreed!
I had a cool lenticular 3D display on my HTC Evo 3D 12 years ago, with dual 5 megapixel stereo cameras on the back to take 3D photo and video. The screen was 960x540 in 2D mode, but yeah - half that in 3D. It'd be interesting to see how a 3D lightfield display looks different from a lenticular LCD.
I can't wait until they get this tech in monitors and TVs.
They put this in monitors. Check out the Acer Spatiallabs View!
very promising stuff! i loooove 3d on my 3ds (and only reason why i still use one).. and i was veeery bummed out about the death of 3d TVs more than a decade ago.
glad to see its resurgence!
Yes, and this is so much better than 3DS! It's huge!
would a screen protector mess with it's ability to view 3d
I have no idea about that. This would be a great question for @leiainc!
How does this system compare to Looking Glass Factory Portrait. .??
I have this 3d pad already about 10 years ago with the polarised screen technically same 3d Christmas card 40 years ago. So I can imagine how you feel and I paid 400 usd for that.
So it's not the first 3d tablet. But the hardware was too weak at that time.
I will buy this new gadget
That open mouth, like a child again expressions, said everything about the experience 😜👍 and got me excited to look deeper. Would need to buy two though to utlize the video chat or can you video chat with someone that has a VR headset? (Of course his video wouldn't be 3D but at least it's halfways)
Nope, you need 2! But it's so cool!
- So, my main use-case would be 3D sculpting and display, with the secondary use of watching 3D video.
Do we know for sure that 3D sculpting apps will work while sculpting?
Also… does it change ANY video content into 3D? I’m thinking of things like random porn and 2D movies. You say ANY UA-cam video is automatically made 3D - is that true for other streaming services?
An affirmation of either will sell me on this. You probably already answered these questions, but I’m trying to tease apart what it actually will do from what I WANT it to do.
this 3D technology seems like the Toshiba 3D TV a few years ago
Toshiba 55ZL2 glasses free 3D TV
Which do you think had the better 3d?
This or the spatiallabs monitors?
And which do think would be the one to get over the other
Both are equally impressive. You want to play PC Games in 3D? Get the Acer. You want something more portable with Android, get this.
I wonder if this technology can be used to enhance augmented reality?
It absolutely could!
Oooh. Didn't think about that. But it definitely could using Androids ARcore. But it won't support 3D out of the box I assume. But it also seems quite heavy. So nothing you would like to carry around playing game perhaps. But if this tech would be in a phone it would be really cool!
I'm really excited. For the video calling feature and content viewing. But I would buy it for racing games. The Acer spatial labs monitor is very tempting but it is still quite small for a primary gaming screen. The Rokid max also sounds interesting for this usecase. However, spatial labs needs to make individual games compatible and rokid does not seem to support this usecase at all. So right now I'm still wondering what company will offer on the fly game conversion for any (racing) game to full fledged 3D viewing. Even VR does not offer this feature on non-VR games which is really a shame. If it did, it would make any flat game instant 3D which would have me buy the tech instantly. But true native 3D gaming unfortunately has not arrived yet...
in the camera the screen kinda wobbles when you move. do you see any wobble in the 3d (like how some ai 3d conversion programs tend to do)
I presume it's similar to the 3DS, where there is no wobble.
No wobble when you are in front of the device!
Amazing!
1. If I play any video file, which I filmed on my vacations, can it make them 3D?
2. Are the 3D games from PlayStore like StarTrek converted on the fly?
3. It can convert only UA-cam to 3D or also any video streams from the Internet? You know what I mean 😂
1. Yes. 2. No. 3. Any... :) I know exactly what you mean!
@@mixedrealityTV hahahah, thank you! 😅
please, please PLEASE I NEED THIS for laptops/desktops
Check my video about the Acer Spatiallabs!
The 3d is in the same level of the acer helios 300?
Yes!
Looks amazing! But I have a few questions still.
Does it have access to the regular google app store?
I'm not sure exactly how this tech is working, I'm assuming it's using face tracking to alter what the pixels are doing to give you that 3D experience. But this would mean it would not be able to work for multi users like group calls. How do the 3D video calls handle more than one person on one side of the call? Or any other 3D content consumption.
How does the 3D camera quality compare to other 3D cameras?
Hi! It has access to regular app store from Google! How does it work? It's complicated... it's a Lightfield display. Please try to Google it, I can't explain it myself. Yes, only for one person in front of it you can see 3d.
I think things like this could be a bit of a game changer for VR developers, if they can make it work with development, imagine not having to take the VR headset on and off again when developing!
Love how you're thinking, Wolf! Leia Facetracking enables VR scenes to be viewed as a magic window. Connect a controller to move around and the front cameras actually let the user peer deeper and wider into the FOV of your scene. Feels very natural and immersive. Would love to see VR companion apps on Lume Pad 2! Let me know if I can help. - Marlon, Community Manager at Leia Inc.
@@LeiaInc Ooo, I would love to work on something like that, the systems would be tricky when it comes back to linking to the VR systems to make sure it works, while also being interactable with Leia, especially with an ideal goal of viewing it actively in editor but exciting
Nice one! You have to test Gamepass streaming.
So all android tablet games will be in 3d too?
Not sooo fast! But it is a tech that will find its way into the mainstream. It is just so convincing! Hope more people could see this!!!
What is different about the screen tech? Is it just that its bright and high refresh, coupled with the cameras/software that track your eyes?
Lume Pad 2 uses a diffractive lightfield backlighting 3D display made by Leia!
@@LeiaInc Oh, so there is a microlens backlight? Tech sounds super cool.
Can everyone view the pictures and videos taken with it as 3D in ordinary phone or computer?
No, they'll look 2D on a normal phone or computer. But they'll look 3D on a VR headset, AR glasses, or 3D monitor/TV.
It would be great if there was also a parallax effect when moving relative to the screen. It would really give the illusion of looking into some sort of window. I'm waiting for this tech so bad !
There is! Exactly the effect you talked about. In the game for example that I showed.
Asus has two upcoming OLED laptops with 3D panels that have cameras that track your face to create the parallax effect.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M this tracks your face as well.
I hope they'll license this tech to the big tablet makers otherwise it'll never take off. If everybody has to buy the same tablet brand then it's already DOA.
They do license it out.
I suppose it can handle just one person: what happens when there are more people?
Yes, just one person.
You see stereo artifacts like you are seeing in the video
@@mixedrealityTV ok, but my question was more what happens: if there are for example two people looking, which one is chosen? person's choice is stable? Does the other one see artifacts/distortions or a discrete 2D vision?
@@g-10It will be the person closest to the display. Depending on where the secondary spectator is, they could see a normal 2D image, a sub-optimal but okay 3D image, or a shimmery but okay 2D image.
3DS emulator goodness is.......coming up! 😂
Haha, yes!
Great for a total of: 1 person
It would better that every hardware are 3D able with out glasses and everybody can create an 3D software, instead of 3D software than run on only hardware from the same company and it should open source.
Can you play mobile play steam games in 3D on this device?
No. The games have to be made for the device.
Good but very expensive 😢
Yes, but an iPad pro is also expensive... And it's only 2d!
@@mixedrealityTV if only Android tables had the killer apps like procreate and lumafusion and hardware comparable to the m1 or pencil
If cinemas could somehow implement this it would possibly save them. Seems doubtful though as it would be incredibly expensive if the tech could even work in a cinema environment.
Cool videol Seb, this would be great for me to talk to my family on the opposite side of the planet.
Exactly!
I think the next better 3D step is the Asus VivoBook Pro 16X 3D OLED K6604.
I just bought the tablet shown in this video and it is incredible. Worth every penny. But I am also interested in getting a ASUS 3D OLED. I'm guessing it's going to be at least 3X4 times the price though. So in this case you are getting an unbelievable impressive 3D tablet at the same price or even cheaper than other premium tablets.
@@josh_3D I have tested in comparison with the Acer Spatial Labs View 3D monitor. The 3D effect and the display performance of the Acer 3D SpatialLabs View monitor is very much better than that of the lume pad 2. I was (in comparison) very disappointed from the lume pad 2.
How is the battery life - do we know? Man… maybe I should wait to see if I can win it.
It has a good battery life. I have not completely run down a whole charge so I cannot comment on the exact hours. But it's decent.
Awesome pad, I am super interested in this. I couldn't afford this and also it's only available in us. But I am very excited about it 🎉
Actually it is also available everywhere else! It is called Nubia 3D Pad, link in the description!
False.
It's sold internationally as the "ZTE Nubia Pad 3D" while in the U.S. it's sold as the "Leia Lume Pad 2".
@@PSYCHOV3N0M yeah mrtv already wrote that
I live in canada can't buy :((((((
You shoud be able to buy the Nubia 3D! Link in description!
Does it look better than 3D of new Avatar movie ?
Similar.
The 3D of the new avatar movie would look better on this tablet than it does wearing glasses and watching it in the theater. You can watch the trailers to Avatar 2 on this tablet from youtube and they are gorgeous
You thinking what I’m thinking? 😏
We already have it for VR😂
Is it normal for the 3d to need lights on to work. Also when I move my head it glitches the 3d
The front-facing cameras need to see your face! It's like standalone VR headsets like that, if you're in the dark they can't track.
Werde immer noch bei meinem iPad Pro 12,9 bleiben mini led und Performance sind einfach ungeschlagen bei Apple
Hey Sebastian, can you comment on how/if this technology utilized works differently than the screen technology in the Red Hydrogen One phone? Thank you.
This should be pretty much the same tech! But bigger! :)
I can get some that is vpn locked to CHINA…
@mixedrealityTV FYI: 9 years ago (in 2014) a Hungarian company marketed the first-ever glasses-free 3D tablet, called the "Xes3d MD-A31S". Ive tested it and it worked great!!! Unfortunately the product disappeared from the market (reasons unknown)......
This looks really cool. This looks like my next android device, just have to convince my wife :D
Do it! It's worth it!
i can't see anything in 3d lol
Yes, because you don't own the tablet. :)
@@mixedrealityTV
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this needs an onlyfans sponsorship
Haha!
still...1100 for SnapDragon 888 is kinda lame
You are getting a glasses free 3D Lightfield display!!!
Frustrating to watch a 23 minute review, which just shows you being excited looking at something we cannot see. Specifically, there was actually no review in terms of technical detail, how it works, what the limitations are, specifications etc. Nothing! 🤔
Hi Greg, it is indeed more of a first impressions, indeed. They have tried to explain to me how it works but honestly it was quite a bit too complicated..
@@mixedrealityTV Thanks for the reply. I look forward to you doing a more in-depth “review”, once you get your head around it all. 🤓
This seems to be a 2 camera view plus a depth cam z-buffer converted to a limited angle viewable 3d scan. This would have no way to detect small details in 3 dimensions. This "Unboxing" is not exploring anything regarding the tech. Seems like just a payd add to me.
It's an unboxing and first reaction. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I purchased the tablet (will be doing my own videos on it). the camera can detect extremely fine details and spatial relationships between very small object and crevices. We're talking strand of hair level of detail. The camera on this thing combined with the display is amazing
I don't care about 3D chat. What i came here for was the question: how this 3D tech works, what are the advantages, what the drawbacks? Can the screen be used for normal photo editing? Can more than one person enjoy the 3D? What are the artifacts of this screen when it's in 3D mode? etc etc... But almost nothing interesting. Very disappointed.
Totally unnecessary!
Like your comment?
This seems a lot like the massive flop known as "Red Hydrogen One". Smartphone and 3D all the things. And more expensive
You should see it for yourself. Probably after having done a 3D video call with your darling you might change your mind! :)
Did we watch the same video??? I think I’m buying one today, and this is my first awareness of the company or product.
@@CHROME-COLOSSUS I didnt even show everything this can do. Because I thought the video would be too long. I didnt show you the 3D viewer that has Sketchfab built into it. I didnt show the 3D Viewer for 3D movies, I did not show you Leia Flix where you can buy 3D movies...
Do not buy! SBS MKV or MTS data Format from real 3D cameras like Sony HDR series or Panasonic doesn't work. Also MPO 3D picture format doesn't work. They have only their own eco system for 3D content 👎
Hey Tilo! SBS, MKV, and MPO are all supported out of the box on Lume Pad 2.
Snapdragon 888 in a 2023 premium tablet with a garbage IPS LCD panel.
NO BUY!!! 🤣🤣🤣
3D is meant for OLED panels.
ZTE makes that I know it's hot garbage 🗑️
It's not looking like shytt too me.. idk I was expecting to see more.. Nah I'm not wasting $ on that
I love 3D and want it badly but times are hard. I cant drop $1000 🥲