Aegon was passed out drunk randomly on the landing of the stairs and his grandfather made sure that he got up and went to bed before anyone noticed. Aegon saying 'Brother?' when Otto wakes him up probably implies that it is his brother, Aemond, who is usually waking him up from a drunken stupor.
@@tbakhalid4781 I donno about them being dim witted but Just paying lil more attention to dialogue which are visible on subtitles & camera focus, 80% of questions get answered. I just think reaction channels have the pressure to react , make comments, so they miss things. Why did Daemon laugh? Who was in the fire? How Is OTTO the hand now? etc. all these repeated questions all of the answers are right infront of ya peeps
Daemon isn't laughing cause he find the funeral funny, he's laughing because of vaemond passive aggressively using the eulogy to say that rhaenyra's children's a bastard
Somehow, of all of the reactions I've watched, thus far only Blind Wave picked up that Daemon was laughing because Vaemond was using his niece's funeral to be a P/A doofus.
@@MT-UK My guess is that some English speaking people aren't that used to reading subtitles, so they somehow don't register what is actually being said when they read the subtitles, as much if it had been said English.
Notice how in the last episode when Aemond went to his mother, upset for not having a dragon, his sister Helaena casually said “you’ll have to close an eye” while playing with her insects…
And in this episode Helaena said ""Hand turns loom; spool of green, spool of black. Dragons of flesh, weaving dragons of thread." I guess the hand is Otto Hightower, and the green is Queen Alicent and those who are on her side and the black is Princess Rhyenera and those who supposts her. Are the dragons of flesh the Targaryens, or the actual dragons, and what is dragons of thread then..? Banners with dragons on them? And then she captures a spider in the shell. Who is the spider? Lord Larys..?
Otto was kicking Aegon because Otto is pissed that Aegon (the kid he wants to be king) is conducting himself in such a manner where he ends up passed out drunk on the stairs.
As soon as Daemon said, "He needs to die in front of witnesses." I knew what he was up too. Many people missed that, and missed Daemon murdering a random dude to use as a decoy. 😆
So many reactors didn't pay attention to the dialog between Rhaenyra and Daemon when it was happening. "I will not be a tyrant." "We will know the truth of it and our enemies won't." " Set him free." Every sentence points to them faking it.
The kid actors gave outstanding performances, hats off to them. Their fight scene was really convincing, and that's sad that the conflict of their parents passes to them as a result of bad parenting and ambition for the throne. Little Lucerys' reasoning of not wanting the Driftmark throne made me so sad, poor kid doesn't want his family to die as the parents fight each other for politics.
There is a neat behind the scenes video of that fight scene where the director asks the kids to jump around a bit before starting so they’d be more out of breath. The actors playing Aemond and Luke then did some awkward jumping jacks before grabbing his throat and getting serious.
@Ali Chaudhry the ring of power firstly has such trashy costume designs. They don’t give true medieval vibes at all and over that the characters are such woke garbage.
Ser Criston did not agree to cut out Luc's eye he said "as your protector" meaning he's their to protect her, not do all her commands, which made Alicent realize Ser Criston won't follow all her commands but Larys Strong will.
No he's saying "as your protector" I'll do it. Because before that Vicerys orders Cristin not to. But Cristin is showing he follows Alicents orders not Vicerys. And it's really easy to prove it because he literally goes towards Rhaenyara's kids but Daemon grabs him. Which then cause Alicent to grab Vicerys knife to do it herself.
@@Teabagsforlife Was he going towards Rhaenyara's kids ?. I thought he was stepping in with the intention of separating Alicent and Rhaenyra, I know Alicent had the knife but she could have finished up getting injured herself, maybe even fatally.
@@Teabagsforlife nope. That line was his response to Alicent saying "he is sworn to me" which is her invoking that she is the one who orders him to do things, not the king. But Cristin responded in negation, not affirmation. He said that his order is to protect her first and foremost, and that does not include attack.
Vhagar is the biggest & oldest dragon currently in the world & one of the original three used to conquer Westeros. Fitting that the one Targaryen teased for not having a dragon got the biggest one 🥴🤣
@@michaelseifu3212 balerion known as the black dread was over 200 years old when he died. Was also one of the original 3 Vaghar lives for 178 years I think.
Aemond went from the runt to the most powerful. I can see why his personality changed so hard, not only must’ve it been nerve racking to be brave enough to try and claim veigar but to then fly for the first time with no knowledge on how to do so, could’ve very well been his death not once but twice in one night. Makes sense for him to come out of that feeling invincible.
Keeping Laenor alive was a plan from both Daemon and Rhaenyra and Laenor accepted cause knew is the best for her and he get a shot to be who he is. If you listen to Daemon and Rhae's dialogue again, you will get that. And also Daemon kill the guy who they used, they need stage the fight and death quickly, the dead guy shoukd have same clothes as Laenor's, all that stuff. So clearly everyone was involved.
Yeah Rhanaerya said “I have love for Laenor” and Daemon said “Then do him this kindness, set him free” and then as you say took out the servant as a ‘decoy’
Yeah I’m surprised someone as “noble” as Laenor would be willing to murder an innocent person just so he could pursue his own selfish dreams and live happily ever after. I hope he’s haunted by the guilt.
@@sitting_nut Let’s be real theres not such development for Laenor at all. they did not show the connection with Rhaenyra and the kids, they did not show the connection with the family, neither the dragon sufficiently but in his conversation with Rhae he showed care about her and kids and do not forget Daemon has connections in Essos. We do not need to see everything to presume that they were offered a pretty good life to accept that. Now for what I understood Laenor would not be the type who come back with hunger of power and I think he genuinely has a good heart as Rhae says and knows this the best for them and will be away, the boyfriend can be a problem yeah but that does not mean that could be a bad plot though, actually could be very intriguing to see it. Could it be considered selfish to ask that for Laenor ? Yeah but he knows already he not being fair and good for her, he owes her and he knows it and if he stays what are the chances they can change things from now ?? Absolutely none, Alicent and court knows his absence and affair with men and he is just respected because of their marriage, cause pretty sure his not well seen in there, they know the children are not his, all that stuff. Neither his family support him apparently, Corlys just used him as tool for power. If he stays he would only have wine, fancy clothes and hidden love, might as well accept the plan and live freely doing whatever he wants. The only major hole in the writing is about the dragon and I hope they have a reasonable solution for seasmoke future, otherwise make sense what happened and could bring interesting plots.
@@sitting_nut mate most of whoever read the book is pretty satisfied with the writing of the show, some people just would like more time to develop Laena, Laenor and their families dynamic but it’s been fairly accurate with the time and episodes they have to develop and Laenor being alive was always a discussion and a possibility among the book lovers.
@@ketsousa8879 what does alleged speculations about, alleged book readers alleged opinions of show's writing as a whole, have to do with specific piece of bad writing i pointed out in detail . i agree with alleged book readers and lovers, and am very satisfied with the writing of the show in general. i am just pointing at specific piece of bad writing. and made my case based on what was in screen. don't try to expand that to show's writing in general. and don't try such straw-men with what i say again( you also tried that in your other comment ).
When Alicent ordered Criston Cole to take Lucerys' eye and said "you are sworn to me", Criston replied: "as your protector, my queen". Meaning: "my job is to protect you, not to attack children on your command." I think that a lot of people are misunderstanding what he said there, he just wanted to stay out of it at that point. He only sprang into action when Alicent herself charged Rhaenyra, because his job still is to defend Alicent.
We saw Cole bully Rhaenyra's children during training, so it's not too far fetched to think he would be willing to harm them with a good reason and no witnesses. Obviously, he couldn't do that in front of the King and the Lord Commander of the King's Guard.
@@lightyagami6095 It's not blind hating. I think it's the difference between those who have read the books and know what's coming, and those who haven't.
i love how spartan got so giddy of the first scene of the blacks vs the greens and that epic shot of rhaenyra with lucerys, daemon and corlys by her side and the way he's so excited for daemon all episode long. it wasn't that long ago when he questions daemon real hard. how the tables have turned. i love it 😅
Having a dragon does wake up some fire in a Targaryen. Aegon the Conqueror's son was weak as a baby but when given a dragon, he became more active. Even King Jaehaerys, the old king, requested for a dragon for his first born daughter when she was struck with a deadly disease ad they believe it would make her recover from the illness. The book Fire and Blood gave much lore to the bond between a dragon and a Targaryen. So yeah, Aemond's bond with Vhagar awakened his power and brutality.
That's interesting but tbh, he seemed like a punk to me even in the last episode. So i wasn't remotely surprised by how he acted with the other kids. I mean, they're being poisoned against each other with each passing day.
@@Hollygli i felt it was a more natural ego/power rush of having just claimed vhagar after being the only sibling without a dragon-less for years and being teased for it.
I believe it's implicit that Rhaenyra's plan was to actually free Laenor so he could live with his lover and be happy while she would be free to marry Daemon. I think all of them were aware of the plan, that´s why Daemon killed a guy (to make it look like it was Laenor) and why they needed a witness. At the end of that dialog they say "we'll know the truth but our enemies won't"
It's explicit, Rhaenyra says "but the sea offers an escape", sea standing for Laenor Velaryon as opposed to fire for the Targaryens who are "trapped". So it is her plan through and through
Dead body in fireplace was that servant Daemon killed at 31:54. He was decoy for Laenor dead body (he even wear Laenor necklace around his neck when they pull him out of fireplace).
@@ConradOPrice I think it’s pretty obvious, Daemon killed the decoy and right before they even clash swords the dialogue is Rhanaerya “I have love for Leanor” Daemon “then do him this kindness, set him free” Which the previous episode had made clear Leanor wanted to go and adventure & explore and “sail away from the storm”
Well-directed. Well-acted. Well-written. Excellent episode. I’ve read Fire & Blood so I know what happens in the book. So far, the showrunners have done a great job.
Its kinda cool though because the books are told by an unreliable narrator who has multiple conflicting sources. We never really know exactly what happens. But in the show we will
The dagger that Alicent used is the same dagger that was used to try to kill Bran in GOT. I was so happy to see Daemon and Rhaenyra finally get together. They love each other and they will make a strong team. Great reaction and commentary guys!
@@halicarnassus8235 No. because they've already seen that part on Game of thrones. They've seen the assassin try to kill Bran with that knife. So OP was talking about shit they've ALREADY seen on the show. YOU are talking about shit that is LATE Game of Thrones and things they have not gotten to yet in the show due to them being on season 1 still. Your comment was a spoiler... theirs wasn't.
@@AnxietyRat Apologies sincerely, but I am like many others wondering why are you tip towing like a " Little finger" protecting them. It's ok. I get it.. Jeesh. Perhaps you should tell them to not react to House of the Dragon before they start the first season of Game of Thrones my darling.... FACT
@@halicarnassus8235 I'm just trying to help their mods. Because clearly your comment got through and the mods didn't catch it and delete in time. 🤷♀️ They have explicitly asked for no spoilers multiple times. They want to go into both shows blind. It is NOT hard to respect that. So I was just trying to help out. That's it. They started watching House of the Dragon BEFORE watching Game of Thrones. Because they wanted a unique experience of fresh eyes... someone who didn't have any experience of the main show to see if people COULD just jump into this show and be okay and they were. It's was totally fine there are no spoilers in House of the Dragon for the main show because it's a prequel and takes place in the past compared to the show. 🤷♀️ So why would they not be able to watch it before watching the main show???? Not sure what your fucking argument is. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. 🤷♀️
Such an intense episode! Aemond was never really that nice, he was just bullied and powerless, claiming Vhaegar changed that immediately. Aemond and Daemon are really cut from the same cloth, both second sons with inferiority complexes, both rogue Targaryen princes, both a bit sociopathic. Even their names are anagrams of each other.
I didn’t as well. It’s because when he says it, he shifts a bit so it seemed like he was about to go towards the kid. I think the blame goes to the actor on that one
@@embbov85 Alicent tells Cristin that he is sworn to her, to which he clarifies “as your protector” so he’s saying yes I’m sworn to you but ONLY as your PROTECTOR, not your “eye taker” lmao I’m sure he also said that because there was a crowd of ppl
They put the guy Daemon killed in the fire. Which means it was definitely orchestrated by Daemon and Rhaenyra. It wasn't just Laenor's lover's decision.
Laenor was also in on it.. don't forget, they had to quickly put his clothes (and his necklace) on the body before throwing it into the fire. And then shave his head. That all took planning.
“Dragons of flesh weaving dragons of thread” Heleana is foreshadowing The Greens (Alicent) and The Blacks (Rhyaenyra) beginning to form their sides, creating their new banners and loyalties, dragons of flesh weaving dragons of thread
"He was so nice before". He got confronted/attacked though. 4vs1. Two of them that used to bully him when he was younger, for not having a dragon. His reaction to it makes total sense.
Aemond is the Goat🔥and not in the wrong. There are no written rules that say that dragons are inherited, Aemond saw the opportunity and claimed the biggest and oldest dragon 🐉 in the future, both of them combined are inseparable and lethal 🔥 plus Vhagar saw something in Aemond and decided he was worthy or else Aemond would have been burnt to a crisp. Laena’s kids were acting like entitled brats to a dragon they have no ownership to
Pudgeys facial expressions are epic. 😳 especially during kid fight lol. Glad you guys recognize Alicents (and Cristons) motivations. can't wait for more of both series !
They actually misread both Alicent and Criston this episode. They thought Alicent was crazy for asking an eye for an eye not noticing in their epoch that was considered justice, which means is the common thing to ask for. They also said Viserys wouldn't give Aemond some "favoritism" (it wasn't that neither) over Rhaenyra since they both are his children but they said nothing when Viserys said that if someone says Rhaenyra's kids are bastards he'll take their tongues but someone took an eye from his son and he just asked for some apologizes and didn't even care for him (he didn't even check on him or asked him if he was okay). They also believed Criston would go for Luke's eye when he let clear he wouldn't, meaning he wouldn't take all Alicent's commands when those are against the king's.
I loved Daemon's body language he is confident and a bit too cock sure. He makes the king come to him to talk, he slouches against the door watching the events around the kids eye, but the moment Sir Criston movies Daemon is there. This episode surely proves don't bring a rock to a knife fight.
Well, I find it a little odd that he didn't accompany and comfort his daughters during the big scene, the young girls had been hit and were really upset.
Reminder that Aemond was bullied by all the other kids in the previous episode. His power trip over claiming Vhagar, the largest living dragon and the Game of Thrones equivalent of a nuclear bomb, is completely realistic.
@@kmjkmjkmj no he didn't the little sister got buthurt she tried to hit him and he just pushed her away.... Then the big sister punched him hard and then he just returned the favor... Then jace and luce tried to beat him and just got beat and then all four of them attacked aemond and he just defended himself...Aemond was just arsehole the entire time and nothing more and this is coming from team black...the ability of some of my fellow black supporters to just overlook the wrong deeds of blacks is commendable
I can understand Alicent. I can understand her anger. Her child is without eye now. Almost blind. And her child needs to apologize. Only because this Viserys's child's mother is Alicent and not Aemma. Viserys married Alicent not because he loved her, he just wanted to have sons. And he had three boys with Alicent. She sacrificed everything for her manipulative, power-hungry father. But since he is her only native person, she cannot push him away, although she understands what kind of person he is. And after all she had done for Viserys she sees that Aemma was and still is his beloved wife and not Alicent. His favorite child was and still is Rhaenyra. A her children are just a necessity for him.
Thank you! And to add to that, Rhaenyra should know how they feel that Viserys ignores Alicent's kids, because in the early episodes, she was mentioning that Viserys ignores and spent years only focusing on getting a male heir. Viserys even says so in episode 1 at the end.
Accurate analysis ! Even I sympathized with Alicent in this scene despite her outburst. She had had enough of Rhaenyra's blatant flouting of the rules and decency, and her impunity exacerbated Alicent's desperation.
Young alicent was definitely a byproduct of her father. But not old alicent. She's making her own decisions now, taking control. We see so with her new dynamic w otto. "I have aegon. We will proceed as I see fit." "I wanted whatever you impressed upon me" she recognizes she was manipulated. Also viserys chose to marry Alicent. If he just wanted sons he could've just as easily married Laena. The whole point of that was to make it clear he's selfish, he knew he had to remarry so he picked the one he wanted. Not the more politically correct option. Young alicent believed her children would be sent to battle to ensure rhaenyras claim, in order to protect them she thought it right to prepare to install her son in rhaes stead. Older alicent crowns her son king and in doing so does exactly what she didn't want to happen to her kids and throws them into a war. When she hears viserys' last words, she hears what she wants to hear. She doesn't misunderstand. She's lying to herself, bc no one in their right mind would believe viserys suddenly changed his mind after 20 years upholding rhaes claim.
@@triinomial absolutely 💯 right . She starts a war by foolishly trying to prevent a war . And her plan almost worked. If she didn't install hatred in her sons towards their sister and her sons ever since day one.
@@merykhan97 she didn't install any hatred, she just spoke the truth like literally everyone in the kingdom. Won't you be angry if your birthright would be taking from you by dimwitted king and his daughter, whose cu-nt is more important to her then her heritage and duty? Just the idea of her bastards ascending targarien throne are disgusting abomination. It's just truth how it is, nobody needs to install anything.
Ser Criston wasn’t gonna take lucerys’ eye. He replied to alicent after she said you are sworn to me. And he decided not to do it by responding with as your sworn protector. Meaning I am your sworn protector not your mercenary.
@@CraigKostelecky Nope he wont. Why rhaenyra followers are so stupid, i know he is in other team but that dosent mean you should blindly hate him. He just hates rhaenyra to other people he is still same as he was in start.
@@wa5t3dy0uth8 That is in no way implied. I have no idea why you think Criston is super cold blooded when clearly being honorable is the most important thing to him. And now we know there are places he will draw the line when serving Allicent.
@@davidnwaokolo1905 “Being honorable is the most important thing to him” Right, that’s why he had sex with Rhaenyra and wanted to flee to Essos with her.
The blade Alicent used in this episode is the valyrian dagger that Vicerys carries around. From episode 3 of HotD you know that when placed on fire it reads "From my blood come the prince that was promised and his will be the song of ice and fire" You've also seen it in GOT episode 2, it's the same dagger that was used in the failed attempt to kill Bran and that Ned is investigating. Little Finger said he owned it before and lost it to Tyrion Lannister while gambling
Aemond wasn't sweet but he wasn't vile either. The bullying and ridicule he endured plus his mother implanting her hatred towards Rhaenyra and her kids have made him that way. Similar to how Otto corrupted Alicent. In essence this is all caused by Otto and his scheming. Aegon didn't seem to care nor want to involve himself in the politics, kind of like Daemon, but that's probably going to change soon now that Otto is going to help Alicent get him in line.
I love this reaction series because it gives me a chance to re-watch it with yall! Also, there were weeks between scenes. It took a long time for Daemond and Rhaenyra to get from Driftmark back to Dragonstone. So keep that in mind, this episode took place over a time-frame of weeks, months.
When Daemon and Rhenera are talking, they state that only they will know the truth, implying it was part of their plan for Laenor to survive, but their enemies would think they are willing to go as far as to kill a friend and ally to get their way. The idea is to make them scared of Rhanera, in order to protect the children, make their enemies fear how bad retaliation will be if they harm either of their children.
@@leonrobinson2475 you cannot be serious. You keep posting about a characters Fate that only happens in the book. Keep arguing with a moderator and see how that goes for you. I have told you 4 times to stop posting about this and you keep deleting and reposting 3 different times this spoiler. Only this last post did you not do so and only hinted at it. You know exactly what you are doing. Do not do this again or you will be added to the block registry. I am not arguing about this any more. Take the hint and stop acting like a belligerent 5 year old.
@@suddenimpulse030 Gimme a break. We have passed that point of the source material, it isn't a spoiler. There are actual spoilers all over this comment section. You are just taking issue because I said that I think the change was made to appease lgbtq complaints.
My one thought about this is, Corlys's and Rhaenys's potential enmity. I mean she's already on the edge of drop kicking Rhaenyra bc her kids aren't Laenor's but what happens when she suspects she or Daemon killed her son, and then wed so shortly after both her children are dead? I mean, the disrespect! I'm keen to see what unfolds with them. In my heart I wish they'd get pulled into Rhaenyra's confidence and learn the truth, but that would be dangerous.
This is one of the two channels I watch the pre and post episode discussion, great banter and as I've stated before you both have interesting insights. Keep up the great work, congrats on surpassing 15k and already being on the verge of 20k! Many more to come. :)
That “where is duty, where is sacrifice” scene…Olivia Cooke doing some Dinklage level heavy lifting there. The agony, the passion. That’s a Emmy nomination scene. Aegon “We Know Father. Everyone Knows”. That’s the “Prince will remember that little Lord” moment for him. Finally there's Otto “in time you and I together will prevail” and I’m the meme of Homer Simpson decked out in a green tee, sitting on green cushions, wearing a Hightower snapback, holding a Go Greens flag with a Alicent poster on the wall😂. Meanwhile checking in on the Blacks: “What is honor compared to a woman’s uncle” - Maester Aemon
Aemond taming Vhaegar and holding his own against four kids makes him the real chad in my eyes. Only wholesome moment was our Prince resting his head on his mom’s shoulder to let her know she can depend on him.
@@suddenimpulse030 I mean there's def a bit of hyperbole & recency bias involved when we're talking awards and stuff. You're right too, there's shippers & stans who think everything is an Emmy lol. But just personally speaking, I've watched that monologue multiple times and my opinion hasn't changed. It is a top 3, if not the best scene of the series so far in my humble opinion. I've seen other review/video essay channels who are way more sober than me say similar things too. But obviously it's all very subjective. Your mileage may vary.
Loved your reaction guys ❤ but I must say I knew Rhaenyra would have never killed Laenor, I immediately understood it was all a plan to set themselves free. As you said, a win win situation!
The kids were amazing. I truly loved the all scene, also the music in this episode was epic. Some parts are a mix of some themes from Game of Throne. The composer loves to mix themes, when you are watching the show pay attention to it.
Quick dragon lesson. Those are all the dragons that were on screen up until now... 1. Vhagar(female) the biggest, oldest and wisest dragon- owned by prince Aemond 2. Meleys(female) "the red queen", the swiftest of them all- owned by princess Rhaenys 3. Caraxes(male) "the blood wyrm"- owned by Prince Daemon 4. Syrax(female)- owned by Princess Rhaenyra 5. Seasmoke(male)- owned by ser Laenor 6. Sunfyre(male)- owned by prince Aegon(we saw a glimpse of it this episode) 7. Dreamfyre(female)- owned by princess Halaena(we saw her last episode in the dragon pit, and this episode) 8. Vermax(male)- owned by prince Jace
Daemon said "We will know the truth but our enemies will not" and then spoke about the need for even a good monarch to employ terror. The truth being they faked Laenor's death, but their enemies will believe them to have been horrifically ruthless.
After rewatching it twice and rewatching it with you guys I now think it's actually Rhaenyra's plan., He said it to Laenor when they're having conversations to free him, then to Daemon, then Daemon said it to Qarl. In my head canon, the random dude killed at the start of the conspiracy is possibly an unrelated man from the ports, because if they killed someone from the castle, someone could have connected the dots.
Awesome reaction as always. Props to your girlfriend for showing shock and disgust throughout the entire kid fight scene. So many people cheer for a side like its an AFL game.
My interpretation of aemonds temper/ego is that it stemmed from having just tamed the most powerful being in the world at this time, also the fact that he's been bullied by his brother and cousins puts a chip on his shoulder anyways
Moderator Note: Please don't give hints about character fates guys. Even if they are vague, it can often make it too easy to figure out, or otherwise set expectations they wouldn't normally have watching blind. Thank you!
Great video, this episode slapped! (Besides the colour grading lol) I’m loving your reactions to both this and GoT. Can’t wait to share this journey with you, sweet summer children.
The best episode so far. My cheeks were tight the whole time with the amount of tension in that hall. Olivia Cooke, hats off.The level of intensity she brought out. Give her all the accolades. Paddy Constantine too. When he finally snaps and yelling...you can feel the frustration and helplessness seeping through the screen. This is very Hamlet-like. Love it.
I really love Rhaenyra and Laenor's friendship. Laenor committed to Rhaenyra and tried until the very end to do his duty even if it goes against what he really wanted. He knows that's the honorable thing to do for Rhaenyra and the kids. Rhaenyra didn't hold a grudge against Laenor for not always being there and failing to protect their family. She knows what he's been through and accepts all that he's capable of giving. The arrangement at the end with Laenor's death being faked is simply the best way things could have ended with a marriage like theirs. And in a way Rhaenyra was also fulfilling her childhood fantasy of escaping and living a life of freedom through Laenor. This episode was so so intense! Love how both of you are so hyped and excited in the reaction. All the insight and commentary you provide for this show are truly amazing. Can't wait for your reactions to the rest of the season!
One of my favorite scenes in this season is the marriage between Deamon and Rhaenyra, because it's so different from any wedding we've seen. It remids us that even though the Targaryens have been in Westeros for hundreds of years, they are still from a foreign culture that they can only really express away from non-Valyrian eyes. There is more to their conflict with the Hightowers than just personal grudges, it's an extension of a more ancient struggle.
Haven't seen many reactors mention this, but remember the first scene with Alicient's daughter? They're talking about Aemond not having a dragon and she starts speaking prophetically about how he will have a dragon, but "first he'll have to close one eye". Seems like she has the prophetic visions they talk about in the Targaryen blood line.
Very glad you guys didn’t cheer when Aemond got sliced. Many reactors did and it made me so confused as they think it’s like an adult beating on kids when Aemond in reality he was 9 and it was purely in self defence 1v4 and only used the rock after the knife was pulled. So that’s a thumbs up from me 👍🏽
@@Moey_02 Aemond had a right to defend himself, of course he had to find some weapon in fight 1 vs 4. But he didn't use it to attack, only in self-defence. While bastard cub got angry at the truth he already knew. But abuser oftenly becomes angry when abused tries to gain power and put abuser in place.
To be fair to Corlys, Rhaenys is wrong about his pursuit of a Velaryon on the Iron Throne costing them their children. Laena chose Daemon, it was not a political marriage, and she died in childbirth, it had nothing to do with Corlys’s ambition. Plus Laenor isn’t actually dead, and was arguably far happier than he likely would have been if he hadn’t married Rhaenyra, bc he was allowed to pursue male lovers freely. Corlys in my opinion, aside from Lyonel Strong has been by far the most consistent and honorable Lord in the show, and even if now the pursuit of the Crown is out of personal ambition, it probably began as genuinely about getting Rhaenys was she deserves. He truly does seem to love his family, I mean, the way he spoke to Lucerys is probably the nicest anyone has spoken to the boy in the entire show.
It's an interesting point by Corlys. If Rhaenyra's kid ascends to the Driftwood Throne and rules Driftmark, he will do so bearing the Velaryon name but not the blood. But if Laena's kid ascends, it will be with true Velaryon blood but with the name of her father, Daemon. Either way, the Velaryon family lose their seat, either by blood or by name. Unless they also convinced Daemon to let Baela take the name Velaryon, but I doubt he would.
important thing to remember is that ANY targaryen can claim any dragon, otherwise viserys or daemon would ride vhagar as their father baelon was vhagar's rider
Kinda feel sorry for Aegon. I wasn't expecting this cause I'm team black ( I remember when I was reading the books I was thinking that he's a terrible person and that's it) but looks like he isn't that bad. In fact, he's the victim of his mother's and grandfather's manipulations too. Sure he's a bit cocky and reckless but he's not a bad person, he's just not interested in 'the court things' yet he'll have no choice... In this ep we're starting to see his fall down imo 😔 He drank so much probably cause he knows that one day he'll have to betray Rheynyra and her kids even if he doesn't want to cause he likes them. He can't be friends with Jace anymore. Viserys is completely mess.. (at this point he drinks a lot of 'the milk of poppy' so it's understandable) It seems like Aegon is separated from his real family and friends and now he has only 'the greens' by his side (even the clothes he wears are always the green- it's so symbolic) where his mother and grandfather treat him like shit. Alicent hit him in the last ep and in this one as well, literally for nothing! He does nothing wrong.. Otto even kicked him- wtf?! 😡 At this point, he has only his brother left but he had never had a real bond with him as he had with Jace. Now Aegon looks completely lost and unfortunately there is no one around him who really loves him and cares. It's hard to watch how he is treated as a pawn nothing more...
"Next time Viserys will be just a head!" 😆 It certainly seems like it sometimes! The man is falling apart but somehow manages to hang on long after we all expected him to die. "Vhagar looks upset" Well she's like a grandma now, mourning her previous rider, and he woke her up. I'd get upset too! Yes, that's the same blade that they talked about in the beginning, that had the prophesy on it.
It takes two to tango. Criston soiled his own cloak. And she didnt trade him in for someone similar, she gave him the opportunity to continuing their relationship and he didnt want that so therefore he ended that relationship himself and she had no ties left to him
Criston, was saying no to her about taking the eye of Rhanyras son. Whe he said "As your protector" he was saying I was sworn to you as your protector not your executioner. He's a turd but he isn't quite like that.
I’m so interested about what will happen with sea smoke! Will he follow laenor to pentos which would be very suspicious or will he stay and just not bond to anyone
Great video as usual you 2 😊 I think you are missing out on things Helaena is saying. She predicted Aemond losing he's eye in the episode before (after he told Alicent about the pig) & she's also predicting more to come. Deffo take more notice to what she says
I don't blame Aemond for being "cold" here. He was picked on, bullied, and belittled to no fault of his own. He finally does the ballsiest thing in the word, and now the people who picked on him have a problem with it. (Granted idk how much the girls picked on him, but they seemed closer to the other family members.) He also didn't attack first. Alicient was 100% out of line for calling to have Rhaenyras son maimed and to pull the dagger out, but I hate how Rhaenyra to weaponize a lie to punish Alicient. A lie she swore on her mother's grave about.
The quote "Questioned Sharply" that Rhaenyra mentions when talking about Aemond is quite significant in the Asoiaf books, because the quote "questioned sharply" is basically a fancy way of saying to torture someone. Meaning Rhaenyra wanted to torture a maimed young boy, Aemond, because he had the guts to say the truth that everyone, even Rhaenyra herself, knew. Her sons are bastards.
And Alicent is literally committing treason by trying to supplant rhaneyra, the named heir, with Aemon. People have been executed for what Alicent is doing in westeros before. So both of them are wrong and doing things that are potentially executable offenses, Alicent trying to prevent the heir from getting the throne and the separate issue of Rhaneyra trying to eventually seat her bastard children.
@@quantumquandary3740 and my post isn't to make Alicent seem a better person than Rhaenyra, because they're both shitty. It's to make her reactions more understandable since HER son had his eye cut out AND he was suggested to go be tortured, by RHAENYRA.
@@katerinas.redthorn5300 I have read the books. You are wrong. The literal DIRECTOR of this episode AND the Alicent actress said this is not what was meant on the episode 7 official podcast. Maybe listen to it.
Love your reactions! Have you noticed that Viserys’ dagger (the one Alicent grabbed) is the same dagger used by the assassin who tried to kill Bran Stark on GoT?
I couldn’t wait for you two to see this episode. It was my favorite! Actually, every episode I say is my favorite because this series is just incredible! And I’m really enjoying your reactions to HOTD and GOT. Lastly, Pudgy, your hair is always perfect with each reaction and I love the beachy waves! 💁🏻♀️
Don't forget Laena said she "wanted to die a dragon riders death". She knew she and the baby weren't going to make it so she wanted to go out on her own terms. Now you see at the end why they needed to get rid of her for the plot of the show Also at the end I figured Laenor was still alive and it was a ruse. The body in the fire was the guy Daemon killed just before, and they put Laenors necklace on him. That's why they needed witnesses for the fight
I'm just happy that the gays are thriving in Pentos (or any free cities). Although, this is a bit tricky coz Rhaena (Daemon's daughter) can potentially claim Sea Smoke (Laenor's dragon). But Dragons and their riders are not a simple duo. The bond between those are deep. Dragons, theoretically can feel what's bothering their riders (remember the time when Daemon got hit by an arrow on the shoulders and Caraxes also felt the pain?). You can see Vhagar is still mourning her rider Laena (Vhagar is a she-dragon) but as you can see, with Laena being dead, Vhagar allowed Aemond to be her new rider (with a few challenges to know if he was worthy of her). On Laenor's case, well he's alive. And if he's alive then it won't be easy for Rhaena to claim Sea Smoke. .
I was thinking about that also. If the bond is so strong how can Rhaena claim his dragon. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that he gave up his name, title, home and walked away. Could the dragon feel that he gave up on who he was and feel free to be claimed again?
Yes, it was such a good episode! Just slowly building to more tension and then some intense event happens and you think the episode climaxed BUT NOPE! Just keeps building more and more steam until the end of the episode aaahhh!!!!! This makes me so excited to see you react to GOT as well as there are some intense episodes coming up in that show as well. Ya... The violence and hatred has reached the kids. Otto inflicts violence on Alicent, she inflicts it on her kids, and they inflict it on Rhaenyra's... Blood has been spilt by both sides now. IM SURE EVERYTHING WILL GO FINE
Late to the party but I thought you might find this interesting. The queen’s daughter (Helena) is able to foresee the future. It’s a skill she doesn’t realize but she’s a “Dreamer”. Couple of examples: when the Queen was telling Daemon he would one day have a dragon you hear Helena say “you’ll have to close an eye” talking to her insect. In this episode she says something about sowing black and green referring to the two rival clans. Whether they develop this ability of hers in the series I don’t know but it’s worth paying attention when she says something.
I just recently found your channel, and I think you are awesome. Great intros and discussion, very balanced interaction with you two. It's always fun to see new people reacting to GRRM stuff, and reacting with genuine vibes!
so called fair king turning a blind eye to his beloved daughters deeds now he has started to reward her for breaking the rules thats not gonna solve the problem it will create a bloodbath
I find it so sad that so many just give the Princess & Daemond a pass at every turn. Yet Alicent does the slightest thing and she's evil. Lets take out all the wrong they've done prior to this episode. On the night of Daemonds wife's funeral, they hook up and sleep together, THEN the day after her funeral, they arrange a plot to make everyone think they had Laenor killed. Esp his mother and father. IF Alicent did something like that, she'd be crucified.
And Damon killed his previous wife. And he is lier and a cheater and all of that. Rhaenyra is a sl-ut and lier. She backstabbed Alicent , while Alicent just tried to protect her back with the Criston abuse episode. And so much more. While only sin of Alicent were her desire for justice and desire to keep her children alive. I just convinsed that people are trash. People love trashy people and excuse them everything if they are hot or something. Or they just see ugly selves in them, so they can tolerate any shit as they would have done the same.
8:20 , So is no one gonna pick up why Daemon laughed ?? None of the reaction channels I saw picked it up. The words of VAEMOND and everyone staring at Rhaenyra's kids.
12:51 Aegon was drunk and Otto just saved his reputation by kicking him before anyone else noticed him and he says his brothers name first when he woke up, revealing that it's his brother who wakes him up whenever he is drunk......Please read between the lines, the show won't always directly tell you what's going on...
Rhaenyra was in on the plan. They killed two birds with one stone. She united with Daemon which strengthened her position and she got Laenor to be free and be with his lover.
Remember that dialogue of rhanyra to daemon Fire is prison Sea offers an escape. That's for laenor. And then. We knows the truth of it Our enemies won't Let them whisper.
Aegon was passed out drunk randomly on the landing of the stairs and his grandfather made sure that he got up and went to bed before anyone noticed. Aegon saying 'Brother?' when Otto wakes him up probably implies that it is his brother, Aemond, who is usually waking him up from a drunken stupor.
Hes drinking for a reason yelling at him and scaring him isnt a good thing.
I don't understand how people can't understand such simple things.
Yeah passed out Drunk on the Stairway isn't a good look for a Prince much less a Claimant to the Throne.
@@balerion77 ikr? People just need to use common sense to understand these things but well 😂 guess some people are dim witted.
@@tbakhalid4781 I donno about them being dim witted but Just paying lil more attention to dialogue which are visible on subtitles & camera focus, 80% of questions get answered. I just think reaction channels have the pressure to react , make comments, so they miss things. Why did Daemon laugh? Who was in the fire? How Is OTTO the hand now? etc. all these repeated questions all of the answers are right infront of ya peeps
Daemon isn't laughing cause he find the funeral funny, he's laughing because of vaemond passive aggressively using the eulogy to say that rhaenyra's children's a bastard
Yeah so many people seem to have missed this
Somehow, of all of the reactions I've watched, thus far only Blind Wave picked up that Daemon was laughing because Vaemond was using his niece's funeral to be a P/A doofus.
@@MT-UK My guess is that some English speaking people aren't that used to reading subtitles, so they somehow don't register what is actually being said when they read the subtitles, as much if it had been said English.
try watching a show while been filmed/reacting...guarantee you'll miss things too, like it's the end of the world or something. Get over it.
People don't see what's between the lines some times :(
So it’s official - this family can’t act right at a tourney, a wedding, dinner, or a funeral. I want to see a Targaryen family vacation.
😂😂😂👍🏼
🤣☠️
Man 💀😂
Lol.
I just had a vision of them on a plane...
Notice how in the last episode when Aemond went to his mother, upset for not having a dragon, his sister Helaena casually said “you’ll have to close an eye” while playing with her insects…
AemonD & Helaena
Dragon Dreams
@@balerion77 aye
And in this episode Helaena said ""Hand turns loom; spool of green, spool of black. Dragons of flesh, weaving dragons of thread."
I guess the hand is Otto Hightower, and the green is Queen Alicent and those who are on her side and the black is Princess Rhyenera and those who supposts her.
Are the dragons of flesh the Targaryens, or the actual dragons, and what is dragons of thread then..? Banners with dragons on them?
And then she captures a spider in the shell. Who is the spider? Lord Larys..?
Nice! I missed that
Otto was kicking Aegon because Otto is pissed that Aegon (the kid he wants to be king) is conducting himself in such a manner where he ends up passed out drunk on the stairs.
He is kind of Robert.
Drinking & f-king whores.
Though Robert is Elite warrior
But he is only Dragonrider
As soon as Daemon said, "He needs to die in front of witnesses." I knew what he was up too. Many people missed that, and missed Daemon murdering a random dude to use as a decoy. 😆
People are whining over the random murder, but I'm like man, Daemon is willing to murder innocents to be with Rhaenrya. That's low-key romantic.
@@MyUniqueVibe Yes that dude didn't have dreams or a family of his own. But he is not rich and powerful so his life doesn't matter.
@@nostalgicbliss5547 More or less. Unfortunately for him, the lives of lowborn have little value in this world, as unfair as it is.
@@suddenimpulse030 this world? That’s not a concept unique to tbe GoT universe lol it’s a part of our own.
So many reactors didn't pay attention to the dialog between Rhaenyra and Daemon when it was happening.
"I will not be a tyrant." "We will know the truth of it and our enemies won't." " Set him free."
Every sentence points to them faking it.
The kid actors gave outstanding performances, hats off to them.
Their fight scene was really convincing, and that's sad that the conflict of their parents passes to them as a result of bad parenting and ambition for the throne. Little Lucerys' reasoning of not wanting the Driftmark throne made me so sad, poor kid doesn't want his family to die as the parents fight each other for politics.
The kids fight scene was better than any fight scene in that new Lord of the Rings tv show.
There is a neat behind the scenes video of that fight scene where the director asks the kids to jump around a bit before starting so they’d be more out of breath. The actors playing Aemond and Luke then did some awkward jumping jacks before grabbing his throat and getting serious.
@@chucknorris8704 HOTD Kids scrapping at each other >>>> TROP Village skirmish and Mt. Doom going boom
@Ali Chaudhry the ring of power firstly has such trashy costume designs. They don’t give true medieval vibes at all and over that the characters are such woke garbage.
Rare for kids to give good performances.
"I may have lost an eye, but i gained a dragon" 🔥🔥
You hate to see it: a person you hate makes a great point. Otto was right, Vhagar is worth a thousand one-eyed men.
"He’ll have to close an eye." - Helaena
It was lowkey epic when he said that
Rhaenyra: "Fire is a prison, the sea is an escape" and she made Laenor be free and for him to live as he wants with his lover.
At price of an innocent man and the sorrow of a mother and father. Many people wouldn't view it so romantically
They shouldnt have their gay son marrying then
Pudgey: this is too much!
Spartan: it was intense!
All GOT watchers: oh my sweet summer children...
Ser Criston did not agree to cut out Luc's eye he said "as your protector" meaning he's their to protect her, not do all her commands, which made Alicent realize Ser Criston won't follow all her commands but Larys Strong will.
No he's saying "as your protector" I'll do it. Because before that Vicerys orders Cristin not to. But Cristin is showing he follows Alicents orders not Vicerys.
And it's really easy to prove it because he literally goes towards Rhaenyara's kids but Daemon grabs him. Which then cause Alicent to grab Vicerys knife to do it herself.
@@Teabagsforlife Was he going towards Rhaenyara's kids ?. I thought he was stepping in with the intention of separating Alicent and Rhaenyra, I know Alicent had the knife but she could have finished up getting injured herself, maybe even fatally.
@@thewalrus6833 No, Criston wasn’t heading for Lucerys. He was not obeying her command.
@@Teabagsforlife nope. That line was his response to Alicent saying "he is sworn to me" which is her invoking that she is the one who orders him to do things, not the king.
But Cristin responded in negation, not affirmation. He said that his order is to protect her first and foremost, and that does not include attack.
@@SeeFair23 I didn't say he was heading for Lucerys.
19:18 If you guys are wondering what Aemond is saying to Vhagar , "Dohaeras" is high valyrian for 'serve' and "Lykiri" is high valyrian for 'calm'.
Vhagar is the biggest & oldest dragon currently in the world & one of the original three used to conquer Westeros. Fitting that the one Targaryen teased for not having a dragon got the biggest one 🥴🤣
Wow. How long do dragons live?
@@michaelseifu3212 we really don’t know, but Balerion the dread died at 200 years old. Vhagar is 160-70 years old at this point of the series.
@@michaelseifu3212 balerion known as the black dread was over 200 years old when he died. Was also one of the original 3
Vaghar lives for 178 years I think.
At that time vermithor age is around 120 years. Am i ryt
@@Noone91875 vemithor, meleys and dreamfyre are all around the same size
Aemond went from the runt to the most powerful. I can see why his personality changed so hard, not only must’ve it been nerve racking to be brave enough to try and claim veigar but to then fly for the first time with no knowledge on how to do so, could’ve very well been his death not once but twice in one night. Makes sense for him to come out of that feeling invincible.
Keeping Laenor alive was a plan from both Daemon and Rhaenyra and Laenor accepted cause knew is the best for her and he get a shot to be who he is. If you listen to Daemon and Rhae's dialogue again, you will get that. And also Daemon kill the guy who they used, they need stage the fight and death quickly, the dead guy shoukd have same clothes as Laenor's, all that stuff. So clearly everyone was involved.
Yeah Rhanaerya said “I have love for Laenor” and Daemon said “Then do him this kindness, set him free” and then as you say took out the servant as a ‘decoy’
Yeah I’m surprised someone as “noble” as Laenor would be willing to murder an innocent person just so he could pursue his own selfish dreams and live happily ever after. I hope he’s haunted by the guilt.
@@sitting_nut Let’s be real theres not such development for Laenor at all. they did not show the connection with Rhaenyra and the kids, they did not show the connection with the family, neither the dragon sufficiently but in his conversation with Rhae he showed care about her and kids and do not forget Daemon has connections in Essos. We do not need to see everything to presume that they were offered a pretty good life to accept that. Now for what I understood Laenor would not be the type who come back with hunger of power and I think he genuinely has a good heart as Rhae says and knows this the best for them and will be away, the boyfriend can be a problem yeah but that does not mean that could be a bad plot though, actually could be very intriguing to see it. Could it be considered selfish to ask that for Laenor ? Yeah but he knows already he not being fair and good for her, he owes her and he knows it and if he stays what are the chances they can change things from now ?? Absolutely none, Alicent and court knows his absence and affair with men and he is just respected because of their marriage, cause pretty sure his not well seen in there, they know the children are not his, all that stuff. Neither his family support him apparently, Corlys just used him as tool for power. If he stays he would only have wine, fancy clothes and hidden love, might as well accept the plan and live freely doing whatever he wants. The only major hole in the writing is about the dragon and I hope they have a reasonable solution for seasmoke future, otherwise make sense what happened and could bring interesting plots.
@@sitting_nut mate most of whoever read the book is pretty satisfied with the writing of the show, some people just would like more time to develop Laena, Laenor and their families dynamic but it’s been fairly accurate with the time and episodes they have to develop and Laenor being alive was always a discussion and a possibility among the book lovers.
@@ketsousa8879 what does alleged speculations about, alleged book readers alleged opinions of show's writing as a whole, have to do with specific piece of bad writing i pointed out in detail . i agree with alleged book readers and lovers, and am very satisfied with the writing of the show in general.
i am just pointing at specific piece of bad writing. and made my case based on what was in screen. don't try to expand that to show's writing in general. and don't try such straw-men with what i say again( you also tried that in your other comment ).
I really thought Aegon was going to be the problem but it seems like he’s the most chill one so far. He’s just there for the vibes
He is definitely going to be a problem lol
the only one who behaves as a real teenager
@@allancg1022 Aemon I would argue behaves like a teenager
You know...except for raping castle staff and all...
When Alicent ordered Criston Cole to take Lucerys' eye and said "you are sworn to me", Criston replied: "as your protector, my queen". Meaning: "my job is to protect you, not to attack children on your command." I think that a lot of people are misunderstanding what he said there, he just wanted to stay out of it at that point. He only sprang into action when Alicent herself charged Rhaenyra, because his job still is to defend Alicent.
yes bro these people are blindly hating on cole
Yes, him following her order there is against his oath and the law
This is very true. It's nice that even he has his own code, despite still being a Green lackey.
We saw Cole bully Rhaenyra's children during training, so it's not too far fetched to think he would be willing to harm them with a good reason and no witnesses. Obviously, he couldn't do that in front of the King and the Lord Commander of the King's Guard.
@@lightyagami6095 It's not blind hating. I think it's the difference between those who have read the books and know what's coming, and those who haven't.
i love how spartan got so giddy of the first scene of the blacks vs the greens and that epic shot of rhaenyra with lucerys, daemon and corlys by her side and the way he's so excited for daemon all episode long. it wasn't that long ago when he questions daemon real hard. how the tables have turned. i love it 😅
Love how Spartan gets so excited at Deamon just taking a few steps when Alicent attacks Rhaenyra. Great reaction once again!
Having a dragon does wake up some fire in a Targaryen. Aegon the Conqueror's son was weak as a baby but when given a dragon, he became more active. Even King Jaehaerys, the old king, requested for a dragon for his first born daughter when she was struck with a deadly disease ad they believe it would make her recover from the illness. The book Fire and Blood gave much lore to the bond between a dragon and a Targaryen. So yeah, Aemond's bond with Vhagar awakened his power and brutality.
That's interesting but tbh, he seemed like a punk to me even in the last episode. So i wasn't remotely surprised by how he acted with the other kids. I mean, they're being poisoned against each other with each passing day.
@@Hollygli i felt it was a more natural ego/power rush of having just claimed vhagar after being the only sibling without a dragon-less for years and being teased for it.
I believe it's implicit that Rhaenyra's plan was to actually free Laenor so he could live with his lover and be happy while she would be free to marry Daemon. I think all of them were aware of the plan, that´s why Daemon killed a guy (to make it look like it was Laenor) and why they needed a witness. At the end of that dialog they say "we'll know the truth but our enemies won't"
It's explicit, Rhaenyra says "but the sea offers an escape", sea standing for Laenor Velaryon as opposed to fire for the Targaryens who are "trapped". So it is her plan through and through
Yes, they granted Laenor a kindness and freed him, to use their own words.
@@igr2113 okay
Dead body in fireplace was that servant Daemon killed at 31:54. He was decoy for Laenor dead body (he even wear Laenor necklace around his neck when they pull him out of fireplace).
Do you think daemon and rhaenera were part of staging his death?
@@ConradOPrice yes they were, I thought it was obvious
@@ConradOPrice I think it’s pretty obvious, Daemon killed the decoy and right before they even clash swords the dialogue is
Rhanaerya “I have love for Leanor”
Daemon “then do him this kindness, set him free”
Which the previous episode had made clear Leanor wanted to go and adventure & explore and “sail away from the storm”
Well-directed. Well-acted. Well-written. Excellent episode. I’ve read Fire & Blood so I know what happens in the book. So far, the showrunners have done a great job.
Its kinda cool though because the books are told by an unreliable narrator who has multiple conflicting sources. We never really know exactly what happens. But in the show we will
Totally disagree. They've made many choices "interpreting" F&B that I wish they hadn't.
if there was choice between other men and Daemon she would always choose Daemon
It's always been Daemon
Daemon won't always choose her though
@@ben1ben2ben1 thats why i said she
@@ben1ben2ben1 he would always chose her as well. He dies for her thats the most you can do for someone anyways
@@ochsenhaut Absolutely, she's been in love with him for years.
The dagger that Alicent used is the same dagger that was used to try to kill Bran in GOT. I was so happy to see Daemon and Rhaenyra finally get together. They love each other and they will make a strong team. Great reaction and commentary guys!
@@halicarnassus8235 that's a spoiler. please delete this. They're JUST starting their watch through of Game of Thrones. Ffs.
@@AnxietyRat then isn't the original poster also spoiling things?
@@halicarnassus8235 No. because they've already seen that part on Game of thrones. They've seen the assassin try to kill Bran with that knife. So OP was talking about shit they've ALREADY seen on the show. YOU are talking about shit that is LATE Game of Thrones and things they have not gotten to yet in the show due to them being on season 1 still. Your comment was a spoiler... theirs wasn't.
@@AnxietyRat Apologies sincerely, but I am like many others wondering why are you tip towing like a " Little finger" protecting them. It's ok. I get it..
Jeesh. Perhaps you should tell them to not react to House of the Dragon before they start the first season of Game of Thrones my darling....
FACT
@@halicarnassus8235 I'm just trying to help their mods. Because clearly your comment got through and the mods didn't catch it and delete in time. 🤷♀️ They have explicitly asked for no spoilers multiple times. They want to go into both shows blind. It is NOT hard to respect that. So I was just trying to help out. That's it.
They started watching House of the Dragon BEFORE watching Game of Thrones. Because they wanted a unique experience of fresh eyes... someone who didn't have any experience of the main show to see if people COULD just jump into this show and be okay and they were. It's was totally fine there are no spoilers in House of the Dragon for the main show because it's a prequel and takes place in the past compared to the show. 🤷♀️ So why would they not be able to watch it before watching the main show???? Not sure what your fucking argument is. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. 🤷♀️
Such an intense episode!
Aemond was never really that nice, he was just bullied and powerless, claiming Vhaegar changed that immediately. Aemond and Daemon are really cut from the same cloth, both second sons with inferiority complexes, both rogue Targaryen princes, both a bit sociopathic. Even their names are anagrams of each other.
Yep, once he got his first taste of power, he immediately converted all those years of being bullied into hate.
it´s really funny that most reactors dont get the "as your protector" quote xD
dunno why
I didn’t as well. It’s because when he says it, he shifts a bit so it seemed like he was about to go towards the kid.
I think the blame goes to the actor on that one
Can you explain?
@@embbov85 He tells alicent that he is sworn to her as a protector and his only job is to protect her and not to cut out childrens eyes
@@embbov85 Alicent tells Cristin that he is sworn to her, to which he clarifies “as your protector” so he’s saying yes I’m sworn to you but ONLY as your PROTECTOR, not your “eye taker” lmao I’m sure he also said that because there was a crowd of ppl
@@samuelreyes1689 Agree. If they’d been alone with Lucerys, Criston would have cut out his eye. He’s ruthless & full of hate for R.
They put the guy Daemon killed in the fire. Which means it was definitely orchestrated by Daemon and Rhaenyra. It wasn't just Laenor's lover's decision.
Laenor was also in on it.. don't forget, they had to quickly put his clothes (and his necklace) on the body before throwing it into the fire. And then shave his head. That all took planning.
“Dragons of flesh weaving dragons of thread” Heleana is foreshadowing The Greens (Alicent) and The Blacks (Rhyaenyra) beginning to form their sides, creating their new banners and loyalties, dragons of flesh weaving dragons of thread
"He was so nice before". He got confronted/attacked though. 4vs1. Two of them that used to bully him when he was younger, for not having a dragon. His reaction to it makes total sense.
And one of them brought a knife to that fight.
AGREE LETS GO TEAM AEMOND
Aegon's sister in a previous episode predicted the loss of an eye to gain a dragon.
Aemond is the Goat🔥and not in the wrong. There are no written rules that say that dragons are inherited, Aemond saw the opportunity and claimed the biggest and oldest dragon 🐉 in the future, both of them combined are inseparable and lethal 🔥 plus Vhagar saw something in Aemond and decided he was worthy or else Aemond would have been burnt to a crisp. Laena’s kids were acting like entitled brats to a dragon they have no ownership to
her first rider visenya would roll in her grave if she knew what ameond used her beloved dragon for. kinslaying and dragonslaying!
You know you’ve become a real GoT fan when you see incest and say, yup that’s a good alliance.. Lol
Pudgeys facial expressions are epic. 😳 especially during kid fight lol.
Glad you guys recognize Alicents (and Cristons) motivations. can't wait for more of both series !
Fuck team black Can't stand Rhaenyra. Green 💚 always
She was just like 😲😲😲
They actually misread both Alicent and Criston this episode. They thought Alicent was crazy for asking an eye for an eye not noticing in their epoch that was considered justice, which means is the common thing to ask for. They also said Viserys wouldn't give Aemond some "favoritism" (it wasn't that neither) over Rhaenyra since they both are his children but they said nothing when Viserys said that if someone says Rhaenyra's kids are bastards he'll take their tongues but someone took an eye from his son and he just asked for some apologizes and didn't even care for him (he didn't even check on him or asked him if he was okay). They also believed Criston would go for Luke's eye when he let clear he wouldn't, meaning he wouldn't take all Alicent's commands when those are against the king's.
its the same dagger, not sure if you noticed as well its also the dagger that was used to try and kill bran in game of thrones
I loved Daemon's body language he is confident and a bit too cock sure. He makes the king come to him to talk, he slouches against the door watching the events around the kids eye, but the moment Sir Criston movies Daemon is there. This episode surely proves don't bring a rock to a knife fight.
Well, I find it a little odd that he didn't accompany and comfort his daughters during the big scene, the young girls had been hit and were really upset.
Reminder that Aemond was bullied by all the other kids in the previous episode. His power trip over claiming Vhagar, the largest living dragon and the Game of Thrones equivalent of a nuclear bomb, is completely realistic.
21:00 he just a lil kid. Thats how they be. But the others came at him first
@@kmjkmjkmj no the girls hit him first bruhh
@@Linboss-hm3wn hotd isnt meant for the average viewer. they dont realize the show is trying to trick them by making the charecters deeds very subtle
@@kmjkmjkmj Seeing what you want to see huh? She gave him a Mike Tyson punch to the face.
@@kmjkmjkmj no he didn't the little sister got buthurt she tried to hit him and he just pushed her away.... Then the big sister punched him hard and then he just returned the favor... Then jace and luce tried to beat him and just got beat and then all four of them attacked aemond and he just defended himself...Aemond was just arsehole the entire time and nothing more and this is coming from team black...the ability of some of my fellow black supporters to just overlook the wrong deeds of blacks is commendable
I can understand Alicent. I can understand her anger. Her child is without eye now. Almost blind. And her child needs to apologize. Only because this Viserys's child's mother is Alicent and not Aemma. Viserys married Alicent not because he loved her, he just wanted to have sons. And he had three boys with Alicent. She sacrificed everything for her manipulative, power-hungry father. But since he is her only native person, she cannot push him away, although she understands what kind of person he is. And after all she had done for Viserys she sees that Aemma was and still is his beloved wife and not Alicent. His favorite child was and still is Rhaenyra. A her children are just a necessity for him.
Thank you! And to add to that, Rhaenyra should know how they feel that Viserys ignores Alicent's kids, because in the early episodes, she was mentioning that Viserys ignores and spent years only focusing on getting a male heir. Viserys even says so in episode 1 at the end.
Accurate analysis ! Even I sympathized with Alicent in this scene despite her outburst. She had had enough of Rhaenyra's blatant flouting of the rules and decency, and her impunity exacerbated Alicent's desperation.
Young alicent was definitely a byproduct of her father. But not old alicent. She's making her own decisions now, taking control. We see so with her new dynamic w otto. "I have aegon. We will proceed as I see fit." "I wanted whatever you impressed upon me" she recognizes she was manipulated. Also viserys chose to marry Alicent. If he just wanted sons he could've just as easily married Laena. The whole point of that was to make it clear he's selfish, he knew he had to remarry so he picked the one he wanted. Not the more politically correct option. Young alicent believed her children would be sent to battle to ensure rhaenyras claim, in order to protect them she thought it right to prepare to install her son in rhaes stead. Older alicent crowns her son king and in doing so does exactly what she didn't want to happen to her kids and throws them into a war. When she hears viserys' last words, she hears what she wants to hear. She doesn't misunderstand. She's lying to herself, bc no one in their right mind would believe viserys suddenly changed his mind after 20 years upholding rhaes claim.
@@triinomial absolutely 💯 right . She starts a war by foolishly trying to prevent a war . And her plan almost worked. If she didn't install hatred in her sons towards their sister and her sons ever since day one.
@@merykhan97 she didn't install any hatred, she just spoke the truth like literally everyone in the kingdom. Won't you be angry if your birthright would be taking from you by dimwitted king and his daughter, whose cu-nt is more important to her then her heritage and duty? Just the idea of her bastards ascending targarien throne are disgusting abomination. It's just truth how it is, nobody needs to install anything.
what's interesting is that Laenor took the deal that Rhaenyra earlier refused with Christon Cole
Ser Criston wasn’t gonna take lucerys’ eye. He replied to alicent after she said you are sworn to me. And he decided not to do it by responding with as your sworn protector. Meaning I am your sworn protector not your mercenary.
I have a feeling if he wasn’t in front on the Lord Commander and the King (as well as everybody else there), that he might have taken Luke’s eye.
@@CraigKostelecky Nope he wont. Why rhaenyra followers are so stupid, i know he is in other team but that dosent mean you should blindly hate him. He just hates rhaenyra to other people he is still same as he was in start.
its still implied, under different circumstances he would have followed that order
@@wa5t3dy0uth8 That is in no way implied. I have no idea why you think Criston is super cold blooded when clearly being honorable is the most important thing to him. And now we know there are places he will draw the line when serving Allicent.
@@davidnwaokolo1905 “Being honorable is the most important thing to him” Right, that’s why he had sex with Rhaenyra and wanted to flee to Essos with her.
The blade Alicent used in this episode is the valyrian dagger that Vicerys carries around. From episode 3 of HotD you know that when placed on fire it reads "From my blood come the prince that was promised and his will be the song of ice and fire"
You've also seen it in GOT episode 2, it's the same dagger that was used in the failed attempt to kill Bran and that Ned is investigating. Little Finger said he owned it before and lost it to Tyrion Lannister while gambling
Aemond wasn't sweet but he wasn't vile either. The bullying and ridicule he endured plus his mother implanting her hatred towards Rhaenyra and her kids have made him that way. Similar to how Otto corrupted Alicent. In essence this is all caused by Otto and his scheming. Aegon didn't seem to care nor want to involve himself in the politics, kind of like Daemon, but that's probably going to change soon now that Otto is going to help Alicent get him in line.
I love this reaction series because it gives me a chance to re-watch it with yall! Also, there were weeks between scenes. It took a long time for Daemond and Rhaenyra to get from Driftmark back to Dragonstone. So keep that in mind, this episode took place over a time-frame of weeks, months.
When Daemon and Rhenera are talking, they state that only they will know the truth, implying it was part of their plan for Laenor to survive, but their enemies would think they are willing to go as far as to kill a friend and ally to get their way. The idea is to make them scared of Rhanera, in order to protect the children, make their enemies fear how bad retaliation will be if they harm either of their children.
@@leonrobinson2475 you are about to be blocked from the channel stop trying to evade moderation and posting book spoilers
@@suddenimpulse030 Explain to me how I'm posting a book spoiler
@@leonrobinson2475 you cannot be serious. You keep posting about a characters Fate that only happens in the book. Keep arguing with a moderator and see how that goes for you. I have told you 4 times to stop posting about this and you keep deleting and reposting 3 different times this spoiler. Only this last post did you not do so and only hinted at it. You know exactly what you are doing. Do not do this again or you will be added to the block registry. I am not arguing about this any more. Take the hint and stop acting like a belligerent 5 year old.
@@suddenimpulse030 Gimme a break. We have passed that point of the source material, it isn't a spoiler. There are actual spoilers all over this comment section. You are just taking issue because I said that I think the change was made to appease lgbtq complaints.
My one thought about this is, Corlys's and Rhaenys's potential enmity. I mean she's already on the edge of drop kicking Rhaenyra bc her kids aren't Laenor's but what happens when she suspects she or Daemon killed her son, and then wed so shortly after both her children are dead? I mean, the disrespect! I'm keen to see what unfolds with them. In my heart I wish they'd get pulled into Rhaenyra's confidence and learn the truth, but that would be dangerous.
This is one of the two channels I watch the pre and post episode discussion, great banter and as I've stated before you both have interesting insights. Keep up the great work, congrats on surpassing 15k and already being on the verge of 20k! Many more to come. :)
That “where is duty, where is sacrifice” scene…Olivia Cooke doing some Dinklage level heavy lifting there. The agony, the passion. That’s a Emmy nomination scene. Aegon “We Know Father. Everyone Knows”. That’s the “Prince will remember that little Lord” moment for him. Finally there's Otto “in time you and I together will prevail” and I’m the meme of Homer Simpson decked out in a green tee, sitting on green cushions, wearing a Hightower snapback, holding a Go Greens flag with a Alicent poster on the wall😂. Meanwhile checking in on the Blacks: “What is honor compared to a woman’s uncle” - Maester Aemon
Aemond taming Vhaegar and holding his own against four kids makes him the real chad in my eyes. Only wholesome moment was our Prince resting his head on his mom’s shoulder to let her know she can depend on him.
I feel people throw these Emmy comments around rather haphazardly personally
@@suddenimpulse030 I mean there's def a bit of hyperbole & recency bias involved when we're talking awards and stuff. You're right too, there's shippers & stans who think everything is an Emmy lol. But just personally speaking, I've watched that monologue multiple times and my opinion hasn't changed. It is a top 3, if not the best scene of the series so far in my humble opinion. I've seen other review/video essay channels who are way more sober than me say similar things too. But obviously it's all very subjective. Your mileage may vary.
@@Tormund_Giantsbrain of course =)
Loved your reaction guys ❤ but I must say I knew Rhaenyra would have never killed Laenor, I immediately understood it was all a plan to set themselves free. As you said, a win win situation!
The kids were amazing. I truly loved the all scene, also the music in this episode was epic. Some parts are a mix of some themes from Game of Throne. The composer loves to mix themes, when you are watching the show pay attention to it.
Quick dragon lesson.
Those are all the dragons that were on screen up until now...
1. Vhagar(female) the biggest, oldest and wisest dragon- owned by prince Aemond
2. Meleys(female) "the red queen", the swiftest of them all- owned by princess Rhaenys
3. Caraxes(male) "the blood wyrm"- owned by Prince Daemon
4. Syrax(female)- owned by Princess Rhaenyra
5. Seasmoke(male)- owned by ser Laenor
6. Sunfyre(male)- owned by prince Aegon(we saw a glimpse of it this episode)
7. Dreamfyre(female)- owned by princess Halaena(we saw her last episode in the dragon pit, and this episode)
8. Vermax(male)- owned by prince Jace
Greeat summary… i feel Caraxes should have a BMF attached to his title and Sunfyre a 💅🏻 for further accuracy 😂
Nobody "owns" a dragon.. better to say, "paired with".
@@Garryck-1 #freethedragon ..... It ain't that deep
@@Garryck-1 english is my second language mate
Daemon said "We will know the truth but our enemies will not" and then spoke about the need for even a good monarch to employ terror. The truth being they faked Laenor's death, but their enemies will believe them to have been horrifically ruthless.
After rewatching it twice and rewatching it with you guys I now think it's actually Rhaenyra's plan., He said it to Laenor when they're having conversations to free him, then to Daemon, then Daemon said it to Qarl. In my head canon, the random dude killed at the start of the conspiracy is possibly an unrelated man from the ports, because if they killed someone from the castle, someone could have connected the dots.
Yes plus when she says she loves him Daemon says "then do him this kindness, set him free"
Awesome reaction as always. Props to your girlfriend for showing shock and disgust throughout the entire kid fight scene. So many people cheer for a side like its an AFL game.
Just wanted to say you guy have a good channel wish y'all much success, enjoying these reactions.
My interpretation of aemonds temper/ego is that it stemmed from having just tamed the most powerful being in the world at this time, also the fact that he's been bullied by his brother and cousins puts a chip on his shoulder anyways
Moderator Note: Please don't give hints about character fates guys. Even if they are vague, it can often make it too easy to figure out, or otherwise set expectations they wouldn't normally have watching blind. Thank you!
G’day from Texas. Just subscribed and I will be faithfully watching your excellent reactions to Dragons and to Thrones.
Welcome! we look forward to it 😃🙏🏼
Guys you would better pay attention to Helena's dialogue cause she's been predicting the future... she's a dragon dreamer. 😳
Great video, this episode slapped! (Besides the colour grading lol) I’m loving your reactions to both this and GoT. Can’t wait to share this journey with you, sweet summer children.
Just a lil note that dragons are not inherited since they're not property. Targaryens don't choose to ride them, the dragon chooses them.
The best episode so far. My cheeks were tight the whole time with the amount of tension in that hall. Olivia Cooke, hats off.The level of intensity she brought out. Give her all the accolades. Paddy Constantine too. When he finally snaps and yelling...you can feel the frustration and helplessness seeping through the screen. This is very Hamlet-like. Love it.
I really love Rhaenyra and Laenor's friendship. Laenor committed to Rhaenyra and tried until the very end to do his duty even if it goes against what he really wanted. He knows that's the honorable thing to do for Rhaenyra and the kids. Rhaenyra didn't hold a grudge against Laenor for not always being there and failing to protect their family. She knows what he's been through and accepts all that he's capable of giving.
The arrangement at the end with Laenor's death being faked is simply the best way things could have ended with a marriage like theirs. And in a way Rhaenyra was also fulfilling her childhood fantasy of escaping and living a life of freedom through Laenor.
This episode was so so intense! Love how both of you are so hyped and excited in the reaction. All the insight and commentary you provide for this show are truly amazing. Can't wait for your reactions to the rest of the season!
One of my favorite scenes in this season is the marriage between Deamon and Rhaenyra, because it's so different from any wedding we've seen. It remids us that even though the Targaryens have been in Westeros for hundreds of years, they are still from a foreign culture that they can only really express away from non-Valyrian eyes. There is more to their conflict with the Hightowers than just personal grudges, it's an extension of a more ancient struggle.
I think the "never watched GOT" disclaimer might be coming to an end soon 😄😄
to be fair I still think they should keep it on since they have only seen a few episodes of season 1
no problem with a minor change to a reaction series' theme over time, it's a totally organic thing
@@bobbob-cd9yl or its just for clickbait, next it will be, "GOT FANS REACT TO..."
Haven't seen many reactors mention this, but remember the first scene with Alicient's daughter? They're talking about Aemond not having a dragon and she starts speaking prophetically about how he will have a dragon, but "first he'll have to close one eye". Seems like she has the prophetic visions they talk about in the Targaryen blood line.
Very glad you guys didn’t cheer when Aemond got sliced. Many reactors did and it made me so confused as they think it’s like an adult beating on kids when Aemond in reality he was 9 and it was purely in self defence 1v4 and only used the rock after the knife was pulled. So that’s a thumbs up from me 👍🏽
I also agree however the knife was only pulled after Aemond grabbed the rock called them bastards and talked about their fathers death.
I hope Aemond will have his way with every bastard and other cubs, team Aemond at the moment 😎
@@Moey_02 Aemond had a right to defend himself, of course he had to find some weapon in fight 1 vs 4. But he didn't use it to attack, only in self-defence. While bastard cub got angry at the truth he already knew. But abuser oftenly becomes angry when abused tries to gain power and put abuser in place.
To be fair to Corlys, Rhaenys is wrong about his pursuit of a Velaryon on the Iron Throne costing them their children. Laena chose Daemon, it was not a political marriage, and she died in childbirth, it had nothing to do with Corlys’s ambition. Plus Laenor isn’t actually dead, and was arguably far happier than he likely would have been if he hadn’t married Rhaenyra, bc he was allowed to pursue male lovers freely. Corlys in my opinion, aside from Lyonel Strong has been by far the most consistent and honorable Lord in the show, and even if now the pursuit of the Crown is out of personal ambition, it probably began as genuinely about getting Rhaenys was she deserves. He truly does seem to love his family, I mean, the way he spoke to Lucerys is probably the nicest anyone has spoken to the boy in the entire show.
It's an interesting point by Corlys. If Rhaenyra's kid ascends to the Driftwood Throne and rules Driftmark, he will do so bearing the Velaryon name but not the blood. But if Laena's kid ascends, it will be with true Velaryon blood but with the name of her father, Daemon. Either way, the Velaryon family lose their seat, either by blood or by name. Unless they also convinced Daemon to let Baela take the name Velaryon, but I doubt he would.
That’s why Daemon’s daughter and one of the Strong boys will get betrothed.
i really appreciate your ability to see both sides, it makes the reaction much more enjoyable and interesting
important thing to remember is that ANY targaryen can claim any dragon, otherwise viserys or daemon would ride vhagar as their father baelon was vhagar's rider
Kinda feel sorry for Aegon. I wasn't expecting this cause I'm team black ( I remember when I was reading the books I was thinking that he's a terrible person and that's it) but looks like he isn't that bad. In fact, he's the victim of his mother's and grandfather's manipulations too. Sure he's a bit cocky and reckless but he's not a bad person, he's just not interested in 'the court things' yet he'll have no choice... In this ep we're starting to see his fall down imo 😔
He drank so much probably cause he knows that one day he'll have to betray Rheynyra and her kids even if he doesn't want to cause he likes them. He can't be friends with Jace anymore. Viserys is completely mess.. (at this point he drinks a lot of 'the milk of poppy' so it's understandable) It seems like Aegon is separated from his real family and friends and now he has only 'the greens' by his side (even the clothes he wears are always the green- it's so symbolic) where his mother and grandfather treat him like shit. Alicent hit him in the last ep and in this one as well, literally for nothing! He does nothing wrong.. Otto even kicked him- wtf?! 😡
At this point, he has only his brother left but he had never had a real bond with him as he had with Jace. Now Aegon looks completely lost and unfortunately there is no one around him who really loves him and cares. It's hard to watch how he is treated as a pawn nothing more...
I love all these points, and I do feel sorry for Aegon. It's no wonder that he's becoming an alcoholic this early in his life.
im glad im not feeling that alone
Daemon is only laughing to point out the fact that vaemond is straight up roasting rheanyra in high valyrian and no one else understands it
"Next time Viserys will be just a head!" 😆 It certainly seems like it sometimes! The man is falling apart but somehow manages to hang on long after we all expected him to die.
"Vhagar looks upset" Well she's like a grandma now, mourning her previous rider, and he woke her up. I'd get upset too!
Yes, that's the same blade that they talked about in the beginning, that had the prophesy on it.
It takes two to tango. Criston soiled his own cloak. And she didnt trade him in for someone similar, she gave him the opportunity to continuing their relationship and he didnt want that so therefore he ended that relationship himself and she had no ties left to him
Criston, was saying no to her about taking the eye of Rhanyras son. Whe he said "As your protector" he was saying I was sworn to you as your protector not your executioner. He's a turd but he isn't quite like that.
I’m so interested about what will happen with sea smoke! Will he follow laenor to pentos which would be very suspicious or will he stay and just not bond to anyone
Great video as usual you 2 😊 I think you are missing out on things Helaena is saying. She predicted Aemond losing he's eye in the episode before (after he told Alicent about the pig) & she's also predicting more to come. Deffo take more notice to what she says
Veghar is the oldest dragon left here, from the original 3 that Egon conqured Westeros with his sisters.
Vhagar. Aegon
@@SeeFair23 I. Don't. Care.
@@HG-if6pc Why so salty? He just made you aware of a spelling error.
Channels growing at a great pace keep it up
Btw Daemon only laughed because he noticed the guy starring at rhaenyras bastards and wanted to break the tension because it is a funeral
I don't blame Aemond for being "cold" here. He was picked on, bullied, and belittled to no fault of his own. He finally does the ballsiest thing in the word, and now the people who picked on him have a problem with it. (Granted idk how much the girls picked on him, but they seemed closer to the other family members.) He also didn't attack first.
Alicient was 100% out of line for calling to have Rhaenyras son maimed and to pull the dagger out, but I hate how Rhaenyra to weaponize a lie to punish Alicient. A lie she swore on her mother's grave about.
The quote "Questioned Sharply" that Rhaenyra mentions when talking about Aemond is quite significant in the Asoiaf books, because the quote "questioned sharply" is basically a fancy way of saying to torture someone. Meaning Rhaenyra wanted to torture a maimed young boy, Aemond, because he had the guts to say the truth that everyone, even Rhaenyra herself, knew. Her sons are bastards.
Lol what. No that isn't what that means.
And Alicent is literally committing treason by trying to supplant rhaneyra, the named heir, with Aemon. People have been executed for what Alicent is doing in westeros before. So both of them are wrong and doing things that are potentially executable offenses, Alicent trying to prevent the heir from getting the throne and the separate issue of Rhaneyra trying to eventually seat her bastard children.
@@quantumquandary3740 read the books then. Every book fan will tell you what "questioned sharply" really means.
@@quantumquandary3740 and my post isn't to make Alicent seem a better person than Rhaenyra, because they're both shitty. It's to make her reactions more understandable since HER son had his eye cut out AND he was suggested to go be tortured, by RHAENYRA.
@@katerinas.redthorn5300 I have read the books. You are wrong. The literal DIRECTOR of this episode AND the Alicent actress said this is not what was meant on the episode 7 official podcast. Maybe listen to it.
Love your reactions!
Have you noticed that Viserys’ dagger (the one Alicent grabbed) is the same dagger used by the assassin who tried to kill Bran Stark on GoT?
I couldn’t wait for you two to see this episode. It was my favorite! Actually, every episode I say is my favorite because this series is just incredible! And I’m really enjoying your reactions to HOTD and GOT. Lastly, Pudgy, your hair is always perfect with each reaction and I love the beachy waves! 💁🏻♀️
Thanks so much!!! This is closer to my natural hair than anything!!
-pudgey
Don't forget Laena said she "wanted to die a dragon riders death". She knew she and the baby weren't going to make it so she wanted to go out on her own terms. Now you see at the end why they needed to get rid of her for the plot of the show
Also at the end I figured Laenor was still alive and it was a ruse. The body in the fire was the guy Daemon killed just before, and they put Laenors necklace on him. That's why they needed witnesses for the fight
I'm just happy that the gays are thriving in Pentos (or any free cities). Although, this is a bit tricky coz Rhaena (Daemon's daughter) can potentially claim Sea Smoke (Laenor's dragon). But Dragons and their riders are not a simple duo. The bond between those are deep. Dragons, theoretically can feel what's bothering their riders (remember the time when Daemon got hit by an arrow on the shoulders and Caraxes also felt the pain?). You can see Vhagar is still mourning her rider Laena (Vhagar is a she-dragon) but as you can see, with Laena being dead, Vhagar allowed Aemond to be her new rider (with a few challenges to know if he was worthy of her). On Laenor's case, well he's alive. And if he's alive then it won't be easy for Rhaena to claim Sea Smoke. .
I was thinking about that also. If the bond is so strong how can Rhaena claim his dragon. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that he gave up his name, title, home and walked away. Could the dragon feel that he gave up on who he was and feel free to be claimed again?
I'm under the impression that if anyone tried to claim Seasmoke that he'd refuse that rider.
Yes, it was such a good episode! Just slowly building to more tension and then some intense event happens and you think the episode climaxed BUT NOPE! Just keeps building more and more steam until the end of the episode aaahhh!!!!! This makes me so excited to see you react to GOT as well as there are some intense episodes coming up in that show as well.
Ya... The violence and hatred has reached the kids. Otto inflicts violence on Alicent, she inflicts it on her kids, and they inflict it on Rhaenyra's... Blood has been spilt by both sides now. IM SURE EVERYTHING WILL GO FINE
Late to the party but I thought you might find this interesting. The queen’s daughter (Helena) is able to foresee the future. It’s a skill she doesn’t realize but she’s a “Dreamer”. Couple of examples: when the Queen was telling Daemon he would one day have a dragon you hear Helena say “you’ll have to close an eye” talking to her insect. In this episode she says something about sowing black and green referring to the two rival clans. Whether they develop this ability of hers in the series I don’t know but it’s worth paying attention when she says something.
I just recently found your channel, and I think you are awesome. Great intros and discussion, very balanced interaction with you two. It's always fun to see new people reacting to GRRM stuff, and reacting with genuine vibes!
Thank you! Welcome
"Daemon and Rhaenyra need to team up!"
...awkward silence...
😝🤘
21:23 Funny how you said that not much happened at that time as it was non-stop insanity right after that.
You’re in a treat with GOT, there’s a lot of satisfying episodes especially later on the seasons
The guy that Daemon killed was the one talking shit in episode 6 at court about Daemon.
so called fair king turning a blind eye to his beloved daughters deeds now he has started to reward her for breaking the rules thats not gonna solve the problem it will create a bloodbath
I find it so sad that so many just give the Princess & Daemond a pass at every turn. Yet Alicent does the slightest thing and she's evil. Lets take out all the wrong they've done prior to this episode. On the night of Daemonds wife's funeral, they hook up and sleep together, THEN the day after her funeral, they arrange a plot to make everyone think they had Laenor killed. Esp his mother and father. IF Alicent did something like that, she'd be crucified.
And Damon killed his previous wife. And he is lier and a cheater and all of that. Rhaenyra is a sl-ut and lier. She backstabbed Alicent , while Alicent just tried to protect her back with the Criston abuse episode. And so much more. While only sin of Alicent were her desire for justice and desire to keep her children alive.
I just convinsed that people are trash. People love trashy people and excuse them everything if they are hot or something. Or they just see ugly selves in them, so they can tolerate any shit as they would have done the same.
8:20 , So is no one gonna pick up why Daemon laughed ?? None of the reaction channels I saw picked it up.
The words of VAEMOND and everyone staring at Rhaenyra's kids.
12:51 Aegon was drunk and Otto just saved his reputation by kicking him before anyone else noticed him and he says his brothers name first when he woke up, revealing that it's his brother who wakes him up whenever he is drunk......Please read between the lines, the show won't always directly tell you what's going on...
They said they noticed cats paw from the beginning of the show… did they make the connection that it’s the one used to attempt to kill Bran?
@@ochsenhaut you should probably delete this spoiler. These two people are watching season 1 of Thrones at the same time they are watching HOTD.
@@ochsenhaut delete this right now
@@ochsenhaut Delete it man
@@ochsenhaut this is a huge spoiler delete this
@@ochsenhaut They literally have in the title of the video they haven’t watched GOT 🤦🏼♀️
Rhaenyra was in on the plan. They killed two birds with one stone. She united with Daemon which strengthened her position and she got Laenor to be free and be with his lover.
and daemon got to murder again after 10 years of soberity. win-win for everyone 😂
Remember that dialogue of rhanyra to daemon
Fire is prison
Sea offers an escape.
That's for laenor.
And then.
We knows the truth of it
Our enemies won't
Let them whisper.