Gran/Djeeta got a HUGE buff now that you're able to refresh the timer on the arts gauge when you use a finisher after using a skill, that and now your skill cooldown gets reduced by 2% for EVERY finisher regardless of arts level (If you're using Fearless Drive). We Captain mains 100% won this patch frfr.
Yep. We used to have to save our skill CD for Arts 4 then just spam them all together regardless of situational timing-. We don't have to do that anymore.
Lancelots cheesey playstyle isn't anything like an animation cancel, though. It's the "Fight or Flight" sigil that counts his Y or Triangle button as a dodge, making it cheesey. They might patch the sigil to not count his dodges as the ones you need for the sigil though.
@@armontay5264 which i wouldnt mind. I will say i am very tired of constantly hearing his voice over and over when someone just spams his special attack lol
I hope the new skill damage sigils make Rosetta's damage competitive. I find myself struggling not to just choose my 2nd favorite Narmaya in coop just so I feel like im contributing more
It kinda makes sense for some characters (Looking at percy, specifically which i main lol): It FELT like a bug more than a tech, the damage you gained by doing it was absolutely disgusting. Like it fundamentally alter a high commitment high burst character to "just cancel and vomit millions of damage lmao".) For others like Katalina... probably there was a more elegant way of doing it lol
I wish they added small buffs to the characters that lost really good tech with these bug fixes to compensate. The dodge cancels on Id were great for quickly filling up his Versalis gauge while also saving your skills for Godmight. Since he has a signature sigil that helps him fill his gauge I feel like they should reset his cooldowns on Godmight like he does with dragon form, cuz he was already struggling to keep up and this set him back even further.
The dodge cancels were part of the reason I was playing Id, so I'm also pretty disappointed in the change. I thought that since it only worked on two of his abilities it was intentional. Especially the one that he has to sit there and pray that the boss doesn't move while he charges for a decade. I don't really care about optimal dps or anything like that but this makes playing him feel a lot worse imo.
Id needs so much help like he feels awful to play and does no damage and offers nothing useful for the team and I say this as an id main/lover. Recently I’ve been just picking my second and third favs vane/kat for the new boss :/
Lucilius can be hard if you hadn't done any grinding before on Proto Bahamut. But if you've done some optimizing on Proto Bahamut, then Lucilius isn't that much different outside of being able to attack during DPS windows. Max Terminus weapons, Lucilius is easy. My mate and I, while we did die a lot on our first run, we still completed it plus the Twelve Labors. In saying that, we have played MMOs before so the mechanics weren't unfamiliar to us. But on the other hand, Lucilius could be very hard if you don't have max Terminus (plus complimentary sigils) or if you are unfamiliar with raid-type mechanics. Outside of the Twelve Labors, the other thing that could probably screw people up is the break check. But due to farming Proto Bahamut, we were already built to always have SBA up at just about any point in the fight. Running Uplift and Nimble Onslaught, I could use my SBA once, then once again on the break check (with assistance).
It feels like most of the top dps characters were there because of bugs/jank in the kit. So if removing that levels the playing field, I don't see any harm in it personally.
Imagine making a video guide for Katalina and going over that tech right before this patch 😅 Really sad about the Katalina tech patch as someone that plays Katalina. I'll still use her since I invested so much but damn lol
Personally I think the removal of the skill cancel tech is overall a good thing. Sure some characters suffered a bit from it. But at the end of the day, removing a 'clearly unintended' bug, rather than nerfing and entire characters kit just to compensate for a tech is a better decision overall. Hopefully with the bug fixes they can focus on overall character balance. Poor Ghondagoza is still at the bottom of the barrel in terms of character viability ffs lmao
The skill cancel tech removal doesn't hit Vaseraga hard at all luckily. A no skill or 1(the undying one since it allows him to fill his SBA very fast by standing in AOEs) build was already viable since 100% of his damage is charge attacks. He is also one of the rare uses for the Less is More sigil.
Currently I main zeta and ferry didn’t use those techs, because it was obviously going to get patched but I do overall feel like I’m doing less damage. I heard that Tyranny got a stealth patch and does not work like it did before (my dmg dropped with no other changes except the bug fixes so might be true) as for the patch overall now that in theory they have true numbers then maybe the update in April will have some character changes that will make them more viable.
They shouldve kept the two loop thing with Zeta's buff. It didnt massively increase her DPS, and added some extra depth to her. Thanks to this nerf, my Crimson Flight Sigil that I spent many hours rerolling for is essentially useless. Thanks Cygames, very cool! 👍
I do hope they do something about Katalina's Ares uptime, in any fight other than Lucilius she's fine. However in his fight it is so unfun to play Ares maintenance almost the whole time. I've pretty much just played Cag for his fight now.
as a Rackam main the Aerial Barrage fix and Slag Shot nerf are 100% fine. he's still very viable. I'm still able to perform perfectly fine. best part is now his other sigil is viable. I'm enjoying it a lot. He's not perfect but he's in a better spot i'd say.
Will also miss the techs, but they were definitely overcentralizing for certain characters. I wish they kept the techs in but just nerfed them, like on Percival if you used a skill cancel you'd only get a low speed quick charge, rather than the max speed quick charge
In all honesty I don’t mind this change because the fact that players were skill canceling like this was a huge “F U” to the devs who put all that work into skills. Roll cancelling animations that are too long still works. If you really think animation cancelling and not using a skill is as the game intended you are smoking something What you COULD be talking about is making it so Ghandagoza is viable. Put meter build on all his skills and reduce how long overall it takes for him to do his charge attack. That’s something more should talk about.
Im a Ferry main and the sba change is horrible but now it feel like they nerf launch atk & aerial barrage range and hits count as well without telling us, the range feel much shorter now especially aerial barrage and it didn't hits as much anymore. the skill cancel is still there but not really a big part of dps output
As a waifu main, feels bad when Zeta, Ferry, and Katalina all got stomped in the same patch. Almost all the best characters are already dudes... Well, it's good to fix bugs, hope they release a balance patch soon though.
Yes! Finally the Ferry mains have to play the game now instead of spamming one move so glad they fixed that. It was boring as hell seeing em do that. Now they are crying because of their over reliance's on that one move was gutted lol.
She still has to spam jump attack. It's literally her best DPS. The "intended combo" is REALLY bad. Ferry mains need to abandon ship to Io or Cag, cuz she's neck-deep in the dumpster.
i mean... it kinda sucks, but also i hate that skill cancels felt like an exploit but not making the skill go on CD but still giving you the benefit of using it
i am happy that Charlotta is untouched by i hope they would just buff zeta's timing because the first 3 loops have different timings which can even fuck your rhythm if the boss turns around. idm the nerf, but i just wish she was rebalanced as well because i actually wanted to main her but sucks if i just end up on the ground 50% of the time. also, Ferry needs a buff on onslaught. rackam might need a bit of love too since they are just gonna nerf his "melee" kit anyway AKA slugshot and arial barrage. i knew the barrage was a bug but i am sad that they nerfed slugshot. atm, his offensive skills is just underwhelming. i would love if they give some love to his coffinmaker or the huge aoe that self damage him if you dont dodge back.
I’ll continue to play ferry either way tbh At least into twawen(or how ever you spell her name) drops then I’ll probably swap cuz she fits my playstyle better
The nerfs body Vas, his attacks are so slow that it takes years to get his bar full not to mention most boss's move so much that he is basically useless end game which sucks since he is my favorite. Id also falls to this because canceling made transforming faster. I just lost the main 2 characters I like :( .
It doesn't nerf Vas at all. I'm a Vas main and he's one of the best endgame (although I haven't tried Luci yet). His best combo is Combo B (LLHH) and you can still dodge cancel the light attacks to get the heavy attacks faster. For mobile fights - one of the only times Grynoth canceling was actually useful - it's much better to do start with the first 2 hits of Combo A (dodge canceling the light attack) and then, rather than doing the combo finisher for Combo A, do a light attack instead to flow into combo B. The actual sequence is LHLHH where you can dodge cancel both L attacks, and you can choose whether or not to charge the first heavy attack (the first dash of Combo A which is used as a gap closer) - you can release it when the enemy is in a good position. You can also dodge reposition anywhere in between swings as long as you have more dodges left.
Skill cancel removal for Id isn’t that huge. Personally I only did it once, maybe twice, in a two dragon form rotation just because his normal combo is so slow. Just a slap on the wrist, really
Yeah, a slap on the wrist is a good way to put it. the dodge cancel made some characters much more powerful than those who couldn’t take advantage of it.
I disagree. As the fastest way to get into dragon form was to skill cancel into finisher, then skill into finisher. That left you with two skills to decide what to do with in Godmight. Whether you use another skill cancel into Godmight finisher and keep that skill to get into dragon form post Godmight finisher quicker or use the higher damage and cap of Godmight to get extra damage was a choice. Now that cancels are gone, so are those decisions. The feel of playing Id is definitely much slower imo
as dedicated day 1 vane main the changes killed the fun part about him being able to dodge cancel into finisher he feels less mobile and less fun guess its time to switch to charlotta or lanchan like they pushing
@@kongxiong543 oh it's off. I was actually upset they didnt address transmarveling as it's one of the biggest QoL things we need. Uggh, so tired of dealing with that slog
I am rackam main and not upset at the changes because I've already stopped playing this game and am just waiting on south park snow day I'm chillin til then... spamming that same quest over and over again is just boring and I'm not gonna do it.. the gameplay isn't even random the fight outs literally the same that's boring
Chinese Cheater player.......... Lucillius blind run me random co-op and face chinese legendary character ( Cheating ) Eugen and Id cheating Duo Zeta and Charotte with Long range normal attack ( 9999999999999 km attack ) Weapon starter no character infomation and he deal 9999999 dmg to Lucillius with normal attack Id slow lvl 9999999999999 infinity duration ( hack debuff duraiton bypass blood thrist ) normal version debuff 5s and useless bloodthrist stat and when quest finish........ no character name show no charcter infomation how to reported him ? if very joke when u co-op medal and face him when u start quest fight giant statue boy 1s boss die cutscene not finish
probably. I'm hoping they do something about how Ares works for Katalina. It just feels too clunky and if you dont invest in a guide for her, your performance hurts.
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wow very cool video brax alter
wow thank you braxophone
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@@BraxAlter Wow Brax alter got recognized by such a big content creator.
Is this Braxoverse and we all just living in it?
ikr, he's pretty good at guide making I think he should try out making some
Gran/Djeeta got a HUGE buff now that you're able to refresh the timer on the arts gauge when you use a finisher after using a skill, that and now your skill cooldown gets reduced by 2% for EVERY finisher regardless of arts level (If you're using Fearless Drive). We Captain mains 100% won this patch frfr.
Yep. We used to have to save our skill CD for Arts 4 then just spam them all together regardless of situational timing-. We don't have to do that anymore.
which is why I didn't rely on Rackam's shotgun spam even though Rackam is one of my mains, it was obviously a bug that was gonna be fixed eventually.
Someone did the calcs on the Ferry SBA gain after this patch and is around a 40% decrease overall.
rip the skill cancel techs
LANCELOT MAINS WE ARE SAFE HURRAH 👆👆👆👆
we are not safe from carpal tunnel syndrome
fellow Cryo Kirito main!
Lancelots cheesey playstyle isn't anything like an animation cancel, though.
It's the "Fight or Flight" sigil that counts his Y or Triangle button as a dodge, making it cheesey.
They might patch the sigil to not count his dodges as the ones you need for the sigil though.
@@phantomblade89turbo buttons friend save your hands
@@armontay5264 which i wouldnt mind. I will say i am very tired of constantly hearing his voice over and over when someone just spams his special attack lol
I hope the new skill damage sigils make Rosetta's damage competitive. I find myself struggling not to just choose my 2nd favorite Narmaya in coop just so I feel like im contributing more
It kinda makes sense for some characters (Looking at percy, specifically which i main lol): It FELT like a bug more than a tech, the damage you gained by doing it was absolutely disgusting. Like it fundamentally alter a high commitment high burst character to "just cancel and vomit millions of damage lmao".) For others like Katalina... probably there was a more elegant way of doing it lol
an elegant way would be to still fix the ability cancel and just grant her more ares gauge on basics.
@@Clavitz1 Yeah most likely!
I wish they added small buffs to the characters that lost really good tech with these bug fixes to compensate. The dodge cancels on Id were great for quickly filling up his Versalis gauge while also saving your skills for Godmight. Since he has a signature sigil that helps him fill his gauge I feel like they should reset his cooldowns on Godmight like he does with dragon form, cuz he was already struggling to keep up and this set him back even further.
The dodge cancels were part of the reason I was playing Id, so I'm also pretty disappointed in the change. I thought that since it only worked on two of his abilities it was intentional. Especially the one that he has to sit there and pray that the boss doesn't move while he charges for a decade. I don't really care about optimal dps or anything like that but this makes playing him feel a lot worse imo.
Id needs so much help like he feels awful to play and does no damage and offers nothing useful for the team and I say this as an id main/lover. Recently I’ve been just picking my second and third favs vane/kat for the new boss :/
Imagine nerfing shit and then putting a super hard boss to rub salt in those wounds I love it when games do that.
Nerfs can be necessary
@@rollfizzlebeef1779 Some yes but mostly it hurts the player, they almost never nerf the enemies when it needs to be nerfed.
Mandatory sounds like skill issue tbh
Lucilius can be hard if you hadn't done any grinding before on Proto Bahamut. But if you've done some optimizing on Proto Bahamut, then Lucilius isn't that much different outside of being able to attack during DPS windows. Max Terminus weapons, Lucilius is easy. My mate and I, while we did die a lot on our first run, we still completed it plus the Twelve Labors. In saying that, we have played MMOs before so the mechanics weren't unfamiliar to us. But on the other hand, Lucilius could be very hard if you don't have max Terminus (plus complimentary sigils) or if you are unfamiliar with raid-type mechanics.
Outside of the Twelve Labors, the other thing that could probably screw people up is the break check. But due to farming Proto Bahamut, we were already built to always have SBA up at just about any point in the fight. Running Uplift and Nimble Onslaught, I could use my SBA once, then once again on the break check (with assistance).
It feels like most of the top dps characters were there because of bugs/jank in the kit. So if removing that levels the playing field, I don't see any harm in it personally.
Imagine making a video guide for Katalina and going over that tech right before this patch 😅
Really sad about the Katalina tech patch as someone that plays Katalina. I'll still use her since I invested so much but damn lol
You shouldnt abuse that anyway
Personally I think the removal of the skill cancel tech is overall a good thing. Sure some characters suffered a bit from it. But at the end of the day, removing a 'clearly unintended' bug, rather than nerfing and entire characters kit just to compensate for a tech is a better decision overall. Hopefully with the bug fixes they can focus on overall character balance. Poor Ghondagoza is still at the bottom of the barrel in terms of character viability ffs lmao
agree, agree so hard
The skill cancel tech removal doesn't hit Vaseraga hard at all luckily. A no skill or 1(the undying one since it allows him to fill his SBA very fast by standing in AOEs) build was already viable since 100% of his damage is charge attacks. He is also one of the rare uses for the Less is More sigil.
Honestly I wish some of the more massive nerfs were relocating some of that power elsewhere like with ferry and katalina.
Vane mains, we may not have skill cancel-finisher anymore, but let me introduce you to combo cancel finisher.
Currently I main zeta and ferry didn’t use those techs, because it was obviously going to get patched but I do overall feel like I’m doing less damage. I heard that Tyranny got a stealth patch and does not work like it did before (my dmg dropped with no other changes except the bug fixes so might be true) as for the patch overall now that in theory they have true numbers then maybe the update in April will have some character changes that will make them more viable.
Katalina still has her inifinite ares tech which is actually what matters
For Id's skill cancel, it didnt matter because u want to use his skills into finisher for dmg
Me as a Percival main....welp...here we go
Yeah, a little sad. Tho luckily, he's still a great character.
Amazing video, and good intel was wondering what was the changes they did. Thank you very much
Time to learn new mechanics for the nerfed characters
does this affect AI Zeta and Ferry though?
AI ferry didn't jump
I’m just waiting for the update that easily tells me how many butterfly stacks I got…
They shouldve kept the two loop thing with Zeta's buff. It didnt massively increase her DPS, and added some extra depth to her.
Thanks to this nerf, my Crimson Flight Sigil that I spent many hours rerolling for is essentially useless. Thanks Cygames, very cool! 👍
it increase DPS by 20-30% though I think since you only need to jump for 2 times not 3
Your welcome
Yayy!!! They didn't touch my big sister!!
I do hope they do something about Katalina's Ares uptime, in any fight other than Lucilius she's fine. However in his fight it is so unfun to play Ares maintenance almost the whole time. I've pretty much just played Cag for his fight now.
as a Rackam main the Aerial Barrage fix and Slag Shot nerf are 100% fine. he's still very viable. I'm still able to perform perfectly fine.
best part is now his other sigil is viable.
I'm enjoying it a lot. He's not perfect but he's in a better spot i'd say.
Will also miss the techs, but they were definitely overcentralizing for certain characters. I wish they kept the techs in but just nerfed them, like on Percival if you used a skill cancel you'd only get a low speed quick charge, rather than the max speed quick charge
good video. keep going Brax alter)
they should have buffed Ferry intended combo if they want us to use it
In all honesty I don’t mind this change because the fact that players were skill canceling like this was a huge “F U” to the devs who put all that work into skills. Roll cancelling animations that are too long still works.
If you really think animation cancelling and not using a skill is as the game intended you are smoking something
What you COULD be talking about is making it so Ghandagoza is viable. Put meter build on all his skills and reduce how long overall it takes for him to do his charge attack.
That’s something more should talk about.
Aslo when they gonna fix online fof ps5 so we can have match making and join anyone we want without needing invites
Im a Ferry main and the sba change is horrible but now it feel like they nerf launch atk & aerial barrage range and hits count as well without telling us, the range feel much shorter now especially aerial barrage and it didn't hits as much anymore. the skill cancel is still there but not really a big part of dps output
As a waifu main, feels bad when Zeta, Ferry, and Katalina all got stomped in the same patch. Almost all the best characters are already dudes... Well, it's good to fix bugs, hope they release a balance patch soon though.
As a Io and Charlotta main rip other mains, but happy I perfect dodge the nerfs
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
Yes! Finally the Ferry mains have to play the game now instead of spamming one move so glad they fixed that. It was boring as hell seeing em do that. Now they are crying because of their over reliance's on that one move was gutted lol.
She still has to spam jump attack. It's literally her best DPS. The "intended combo" is REALLY bad. Ferry mains need to abandon ship to Io or Cag, cuz she's neck-deep in the dumpster.
All the open tabs lol and here I thought my 30 tabs opened in my browser is the worst 😂
A lot of needed bug fixes and good balance changes
Love the new Balter arc!
i mean... it kinda sucks, but also i hate that skill cancels felt like an exploit but not making the skill go on CD but still giving you the benefit of using it
i am happy that Charlotta is untouched by i hope they would just buff zeta's timing because the first 3 loops have different timings which can even fuck your rhythm if the boss turns around. idm the nerf, but i just wish she was rebalanced as well because i actually wanted to main her but sucks if i just end up on the ground 50% of the time. also, Ferry needs a buff on onslaught. rackam might need a bit of love too since they are just gonna nerf his "melee" kit anyway AKA slugshot and arial barrage. i knew the barrage was a bug but i am sad that they nerfed slugshot. atm, his offensive skills is just underwhelming. i would love if they give some love to his coffinmaker or the huge aoe that self damage him if you dont dodge back.
Who's that handsome fella on the lower corner of the screen 👀
The Ferry nerf was because of the new sigils she would have been OP in new patch if they didn’t nerf some things
people using exploits to get damage they didn't deserve, now crying because they have to actually earn it. 100 % genshin players.
my g its a video game no one has to 'deserve' damage LOL
my ultimate trophy is still bugged even after the update 😢
Siegfried untouched 🙏🏾
Not nerfs, just bug fixes and some buffs
Something that directly leads to decreased damage output or reduced utility is a nerf. Doesn't matter if it by bug fix or dev adjustments.
I’ll continue to play ferry either way tbh
At least into twawen(or how ever you spell her name) drops then I’ll probably swap cuz she fits my playstyle better
The nerfs body Vas, his attacks are so slow that it takes years to get his bar full not to mention most boss's move so much that he is basically useless end game which sucks since he is my favorite. Id also falls to this because canceling made transforming faster. I just lost the main 2 characters I like :( .
It doesn't nerf Vas at all. I'm a Vas main and he's one of the best endgame (although I haven't tried Luci yet). His best combo is Combo B (LLHH) and you can still dodge cancel the light attacks to get the heavy attacks faster.
For mobile fights - one of the only times Grynoth canceling was actually useful - it's much better to do start with the first 2 hits of Combo A (dodge canceling the light attack) and then, rather than doing the combo finisher for Combo A, do a light attack instead to flow into combo B. The actual sequence is LHLHH where you can dodge cancel both L attacks, and you can choose whether or not to charge the first heavy attack (the first dash of Combo A which is used as a gap closer) - you can release it when the enemy is in a good position. You can also dodge reposition anywhere in between swings as long as you have more dodges left.
They need to fix the online! It’s always kicking me I’ll get in maybe 2/10 try’s
Skill cancel removal for Id isn’t that huge. Personally I only did it once, maybe twice, in a two dragon form rotation just because his normal combo is so slow. Just a slap on the wrist, really
Yeah, a slap on the wrist is a good way to put it. the dodge cancel made some characters much more powerful than those who couldn’t take advantage of it.
I disagree. As the fastest way to get into dragon form was to skill cancel into finisher, then skill into finisher. That left you with two skills to decide what to do with in Godmight. Whether you use another skill cancel into Godmight finisher and keep that skill to get into dragon form post Godmight finisher quicker or use the higher damage and cap of Godmight to get extra damage was a choice. Now that cancels are gone, so are those decisions. The feel of playing Id is definitely much slower imo
Day 20 waiting for vira release
Kinda strange for a bug fix patch, not to adress the fact that rosetta with an Eugen, can almost 100-0 a boss with their bugged synergy
My bunny can't hop anymore TT
O7 Katalina video
No is not that we don't understand is just we give a F I'm stoll gonna enjoy the character I main
they nerfing my ferry
no more fast charging ult anymore
aishhhh
as dedicated day 1 vane main the changes killed the fun part about him being able to dodge cancel into finisher he feels less mobile and less fun guess its time to switch to charlotta or lanchan like they pushing
SUGOI SUGOI
UNBILIBABOL!
remember me when you blow up :(
Crazy how we didn't get any quality of life patch.
Siero not killing me with their voicelines was a qol
@JayShoPalmz but I rolling for sigil chime is a lil off, right, or is it just me?
@@kongxiong543 oh it's off.
I was actually upset they didnt address transmarveling as it's one of the biggest QoL things we need. Uggh, so tired of dealing with that slog
I am rackam main and not upset at the changes because I've already stopped playing this game and am just waiting on south park snow day
I'm chillin til then... spamming that same quest over and over again is just boring and I'm not gonna do it.. the gameplay isn't even random the fight outs literally the same
that's boring
The skill cancel "bug" fix defenitely hurts the game imo. They could have balanced chars while keeping the tech in 🤷
nty. I dont want to have to abuse an exploit to be "viable" with a character.
@@Clavitz1 This game is easy, there's no such thing as viable. Every character can easily beat any content
@@Laurboy97 as a top performer hence the quotes
CUTE
LOL...what a joke. Further proof that cygames has no idea what they are doing. They should probably just stick to their crappy mobile game.
Imagine nerfing characters in a PvE game
game is dead, character feels liek shit now
bye
yeah no it isnt. que times are still going strong.
Chinese Cheater player..........
Lucillius blind run me random co-op and face chinese legendary character ( Cheating )
Eugen and Id cheating Duo
Zeta and Charotte with Long range normal attack ( 9999999999999 km attack )
Weapon starter no character infomation and he deal 9999999 dmg to Lucillius with normal attack
Id slow lvl 9999999999999 infinity duration ( hack debuff duraiton bypass blood thrist ) normal version debuff 5s and useless bloodthrist stat
and when quest finish........
no character name show no charcter infomation
how to reported him ?
if very joke when u co-op medal and face him when u start quest fight giant statue boy
1s boss die cutscene not finish
Maybe they'll buff characters next update, right? RIGHT?!!!🥲
probably. I'm hoping they do something about how Ares works for Katalina. It just feels too clunky and if you dont invest in a guide for her, your performance hurts.