Achilles and his men were Myrmidon. Agamemnon and his brother Menalaus were Spartan. Odysseus was Ithican. Basically the entire army was made up of people from a large number of Greek city states. The film was based on The Illiad. One of my favorite books as a kid.
Did Agamemnon, as the king of the Mycenaeans reside on Crete? This is a period in history that is hard to understand. The Minoans were the first empire we know of to rule the Mediterranean. The Mycenaeans took control of Crete after the fall of the Minoans. So was Agamemnon the king of Crete? And then why did "Greeks" go from having full control of the Mediterranean and having their king (I think) sit on the throne of Crete, diminishing down to a bunch of separate city states on mainland Greece. It's all very confusing. I'm not looking for someone to try and answer these questions in a single comment. Anyone got some good links to videos that can help me understand how we go from Minoans, to the fall of the Mycenaeans and through to the formation of the Greek polis system. I think my biggest confusion is how we went from an empire to a city state feudal system. Greeks went from sieging Troy as an empire to sieging each other, why/how? Athenians fighting Spartans. Why weren't they still an empire. Honestly I feel like I don't even understand what the word "Greek" even means at this point.
@@thesilky0ne899 : He keeps his weight down and works out obsessively. Do that , and you'd be surprised at how mobile you are even into your 70's and 80's (my grandma was literally still bouncing - you know how little kids, teens, and athletes sometimes seem to 'bounce' when they walk? - around at 75 until she finally got a big disease: breast cancer and lost one breast. Even so she lived 18 more years and it wasn't until the last two years of her life that she needed more than a single cane but a walker in order to walk around . I think it's because she was a farmgirl who gardened a lot, ate well, and never smoked.) Obviously age limits us all (until they either get bionic limbs or treatments for aging) but exercise and good diet do make a vast difference so long as you can keep them up.
Despite how inaccurate the movie is to the original story, I actually like this movie. Instead of a grandiose mythical story it's like a realistic war story without all the gods and goddesses
If you wanted a 100% accurate telling in a movie format nothing would have happened because the time between events would have been spread out. We've got history books for that.
@@allenwalker5208 I never said it was and it's still up for debate whether the poems based off historical events or not. However Troy was a real city, If you wanted a Historical telling of the city nothing would have happened In a contained story arc for us, the audience.
Side note: something the Iliad (the book of this) does really well is “war is hell.” A lot of the time the poet basically went: “This is Dave, he grew up in Troy. His father made baskets. He has two younger brothers who he would fish with. He came to war to win glory for himself, his family, and his city. Ajax (the big guy with the club and beard) thrust his spear truly, which pierced Dave’s eye. The spear became slick with blood and ocular fluid. Ajax removed his weapon and continued.” And that’s the end of Dave.
Troy takes place long before 300, so these Spartans are also from a bygone era. Hence later Spartans are said to be descended from legendary figures like Achilles and Hercules. Although the story of the Trojan War is known to us from Homer's epic poem 'Iliad', therefore based largely on legend (Homer lived long after it supposedly happened), an archaeologist later found an ancient city site in Turkey that most historians today agree corresponds to the legendary city of Troy, giving credence to the story or at least belief that a major war might have taken place at the site. Whether the story actually happened as depicted or at all is still up for debate. According to Homer, Trojans are believed to have been Anatolian Greeks from earlier Greek settlements in the region or even Hellenised Anatolians. Turks only arrived in the Anatolia region in the 11th century, over 2 thousand years after the story of Troy. Hope I haven't botched any information haha. Great reaction!
Correct. Though the precise date isn’t certain. I recall reading that archeologists have dug into seven different levels on the site. The Homeric poems are really the lyrics to songs that were sung for centuries and arranged into “novels” at a much later date, probably around 800 BC, and edited into a final “official” version around 600 BC.
Yeah, the story must have been passed down from a siege of an ancient version Troy long before the Iliad was put to paper. the whole romance part was added for entertainment reasons, Troy must have been competitor of the Greek States at that time commerce wise as a gate to the East. And a Siege lasting 10 years, never in that period maybe a year tops even.
As a Thessalian ..Achilles was my ancestor and i am very proud of it.. I was born in Volos ..In Pelion mountain ..Achilles grow up and trained..Thank you so much for the reaction !!!
And Hercules was also trained in Pelion mountain by Hiron the same teacher.. Achilles army in Thessaly area was one of the best called "Myrmidons" we also have a small local team with that name ..In Thessaly area the locals most of them are blond with blue or green eyes...!!!
Troy was in Anatolia (modern day Turkey indeed) but it was a Greek tribe too. Turkish people immigrated in Anatolia during the late middle ages. Before that, Anatolia has been inhabited by a lot of different people throughout history: the Hittites, the Assyrians, the Greeks and even some Celtic tribes. By the time the events of Troy (supposedly) happened, western Anatolia was Greek. Interestingly, that part of Anatolia will remain culturally Greek even after the Persians (Aechemenid empire) took over.
4:58 Turkey doesnt have anything to do with Troy they immigrated from west Asia. Trojans were also a Greek tribe.Its just that those melodies sound arab because they originate from anatolia and the area of Byzantium.Not only arabs had and have that stereotypical melody in music.
Am I missing something? He was wondering where Troy was no? It's in current day Turkey no? Greece and Turkey practically border each other no? Btw, some useless knowledge, the Trojan Horse prop used for this movie resides in Turkey.
@@xerozeven If he was talking about location it is today's Turkey if he was talking about the stereotypical Turkic-Arabic melody to which I was referring to then it's not Turkish-Arabic. That was my starting arguement
Please remember that at the time of '300' and Leonidas , Achilles and Troy were 1000 year old MYTHS and LEGENDS to the Greeks. It's a great wonder they passed them down to us.
@@mr.noodles3954 now the statement has to be questioned. Would a myth or legend be passed on for 1k years? People wouldn't believe that unless it was true and the people who spread it by word of mouth believed it to be so. Kind of like Jesus christ, to think some people still deny the fact he existed when there's witness accounts of 500+ and more witnesses and authority figures like Pontius Pilot and Joseph's flavius claiming he did indeed exist.
"This is a brother everyone needs"... "yeah i agree" you two are so funny! would love to see you react to equilibrium with Christian Bale at some point
As a Greek i must say something about how Hollywood take our stories and put "salsa" to spice it up! First of all in the actual myth, Helen was the Victim, Paris fell in love with her and kidnapped her, now the movie is correct about that Agamemnon always wanted to go to war with Trojans, and he finally had the chance to do it with the abduction of Helen as an excuse. Trojans were also Greeks based in modern Turkey as so many Greek people and cities were once there before the Ottomans capture them all drive Greeks back to the mainland. Great reaction though! Also i would like to react to Kingdom of Heaven!.
@@IronHead92 Have you ever played Assassin's Creed: Odyssey which is an rpg set during the Peleponnesian War which has been praised for it's historical accuracy despite having a totally skewed map of Greece and the Aegean Islands?
Fun reaction. Just for edification. This is 'supposed' to be Bronze age Sparta, and 300 was 'supposed' to be Iron Age Sparta, so not the same civilizations.
Next movie will be?...I recommend - Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (2010), Alexander (2004), V for Vendetta (2005), The Hunt for Red October (1990), The Name of the Rose (1986).
Back in 2003 when I was in college I was vacationing with some friends close to where parts of this movie were being filmed and a friend and I actually got invited to appear as extras. Since I am dark-haired I was supposed to be a random Trojan soldier and my friend, who's blond, was going to be a random Greek soldier. Unfortunately the exact date of the shoot was the same day we had to go back home for final exams and we couldn't take more days off.
The legend here is that when achilles was born the gods grabbed him by his feet and dipped him upside down in the water of immortality. The only thing wrong was the part the gods held him by (His ankle) didn’t submerge in the water. Meaning everything was immortal except his foot area. It’s ironic that the way achilles dies is an arrow to the ankle. And ever since then, this area of the ankle has been known as the “Achilles heel”.
The classical timeline goes that Hercules razed Troy when King Priam's father was on the throne, for breaking a big promise to him. As part of the spoils of war, Hercules's companion Theseus (as in '& the Minotaur') claimed Priam's sister as his prize. Priam vowed to make Troy great again in the aftermath and succeeded. He diverted the trade routes between the Far East and ancient Europe so everything had to pass through Troy. It is said he also gained so much favour with the Gods, that Poseidon the sea-god helped to raise new walls for the city (hence the reason why the Greeks could never breach or take them). But despite all this good fortune, Priam was not satisfied. Time after time, he offered to pay a queen's ransom many times over for his sister's return, but each time Theseus refused his offer. So it was that he began to look for allies amongst the noble Greek families to see if any would help him negotiate his sister's release. But all this took literally decades, and even by the time Paris fled with Helen and Theseus had died, his sister was not given back. So he reasoned that if his son had brought back a Greek King's wife and Queen, it was only fair seeing that none had helped to send his sister home.
Patroclos was actually NOT Achilles' cousin! Scholars are squabbling over if the two were lovers or just really good friends even to this day (some ancient writers talking about the Illiad say that they were lovers, some say they were not), but still, they were not cousins. But, typically Hollywood, they made sure to have them be related to exclude any possibility that some may have the idea to interpret them as lovers. No matter what they were, since Patroclos was the reason Achilles flew into a rage and took up fighting again, the relationship in the movie is portrayed a bit thin; they train together, whoa, great, but that's it more or less. In my eyes, not reason enough to go on a killing spree for revenge.
I guess this is why we "just trust Ash" - from Wikipedia - Troy (Greek: Τροία) or Ilium (Greek: Ίλιον) was an ancient city located at Hisarlik in present-day Turkey, 30 kilometres (19 mi) south-west of Çanakkale. It is known as the setting for the Greek myth of the Trojan War. Props for sussing out the location!
I love this channel. You have so much energy and hype during these things that it gets me pumped as well. Your banter with your sister is freakin hilarious. You: "Everyone should have a brother like that" Sis: "I know" 😂 Stay Awesome guys, and thank you for your hard work💜
You know I love you Ash but the best part of this reaction is your beautiful sassy sister in the beginning. “Finally. Not gonna be done til 1am” lol I adore your relationship. 👑👑💖💖
Troy is/was located in the west part of Turkey and Greece is located to the far left of it across the Aegean Sea, and to the top/right of Troy is the Black Sea. Troy was located in a perfect spot for trading goods since it was so close to the Aegean Sea and so close to Greece for trading so that’s why everyone wanted it.
Ding ding! Troy is modern Turkey. At the time, the landmass of Turkey was called Anatolia, though the Greeks tended to call the Trojans, Illyrians. Meaning that the Iliad (the war poem by Homer that was the inspiration for Troy) basically means “The Trojan Tale” or “Troy Story (not my joke, can’t take credit)!
HI GUYS! Missed you both so much BTW, the spear is the primary weapon, so when Achilles leaves it in the first fight scene vs the Thessalonian hero, he is showing everyone that he is confident. Notice how the other hero uses all his weapons.
3:30 Trojan war was around 1200 b.c. the battle at Thermopylae was 480 b.c. Troy was at turkey,the exact location is unknown. Also they are Myrmidons the best warriors at that time of greece
1)Troy was also a Greek city. It was a civil war between Greek tribes and city-states and their allies. Turkey didn’t exist back then. 2)The famous city of Sparta of 500 bC was a completely different city from the Sparta of the Trojan war era 1300 bC). Sparta of the Trojan war was inhabited by Achaean Greeks. Sparta of classical era (500 bC) was inhabited by Dorian Greeks who initially lived in Epirus and Macedonia and later they migrated to Peloponese, subjugated the Achaians who lived there and transformed Sparta into a military superpower city-state
@@justtrustash Ikr! She's gorgeous! I remember being very impressed with her performance and beauty. I'm so glad I was not the only one who recognized her!
Priamo, the king of Troy, is a good person in this version but he is a fool as king. Yeah Parish was the biggest fool for taking her to Troy but Priamo could still do something, starting for sending her back to Troy. Probably Agamenon still would go to the war but i doubt Achilles. Hector is the only person with common sense to see the coming disaster.
So this setting is long before the hyper militarization of Sparta. This is during the Bronze Age, which ended around 1200 BC, while Sparta was reorganized around 800 BC
Another great reaction bro! You and your sis have a great sibling relationship and are so funny. Laughed my head off. Next reaction needs to be immortals .. not the best film but certainly would like to see your reaction 😃🤜💥🤛
Troy (in ancient Greek, Ἴλιος or Ilios), was located in western Turkey - not far from the modern city of Canakkale (better known as Gallipoli), at the mouth of the Dardarnelles strait
You ARE correct sir, Troy was located in Turkey, and was renowned for it's incredibly high and thick city walls. And not to be disrespectful at all but your sister is absolutely gorgeous and if she wanted to take over my channel, I'd let her lol
Troy was a city in the Greek kingdom of Aiolia and centuries later the City was called Ilion. Unfortunately Aiolia Ionia Bithynia Pontus and North, Eastern Thrace are in Turkish hands and my country lost our classical lands. I'm Greek if it wasn't clear
Troy was Hittite for the record, or something very near to it (modern day Turkey, but in no way actually anything like the Turkey you know; many invasions/people-groups removed). They actually represented Hittite architecture/art rather well, I think. Then again, I am no expert.
That first fight, i love how the gent says "look at the mens faces you could win this war with a swing of your sword", Kills the man with one swing of the sword. *challage completed*!
The real reason was not the beauty of Helen,but at that time,lands and kingdoms belonged to the women.So For example,Ithaca was not Odysseas kingdom,it was his wife Penelope and he married her and became a king.For many of the heroes on the trojan war,that was the case.So when Paris stole Helen (third time she was stolen in fact),in reality he tried to steal the kingdom from Menelaos,cause Sparta belonged to Helen.It was an act of war and not an act of love.Now imagine that Menelaos was brother to Agamemnon,who in previous years,killed the husband and child of Helen's sister Klitaimnistra and then married her,one of the strongest generals at the time and wanted his kingdom to get stronger,what golden opportunity was that.Achilleas on the other hand,was not just a soldier.Was a king also.All the heroes names in Iliad (Trojan war) were kings.The most noble names for the Greeks from the ancient times till modern era,were Achilleas and Ektoras.The two main heroes of the Trojan war.And that is because they were both Greeks and defend either their land or moral values etc.
To the 300, Alexander the great, even Rome. Troy. Troy was myth and legend. Sometimes it's easy to forget just when all these events took place. That hundreds of years separated them. Troy was ancient to even those we today consider ancient. People have been searching for the city of Troy for thousands of years. Edit his original name was supposedly Ligyron
If you read the myths carefully, there was another potential reason for the Troyans to let Helen stay. The crown of Sparta went with her, Menelaos was only the king because she was his wife. It is important to note, that Paris actually married her. She wasn't his side-chick. And when he died in battle, they married her to his brother Deiphobus. The Troyans were staking a claim on a kingdom in Greece.
Any man who can recognize Sean Bean's voice in an instant deserves a like and a subscribe
Achilles and his men were Myrmidon.
Agamemnon and his brother Menalaus were Spartan.
Odysseus was Ithican.
Basically the entire army was made up of people from a large number of Greek city states.
The film was based on The Illiad. One of my favorite books as a kid.
Isn't Achilles Pellian?
Achilles is from Phthia in Thessaly. His soldiers were called Myrmidons.
Agamemnon was king of Mycenae.
Menelaus was king of Sparta.
Did Agamemnon, as the king of the Mycenaeans reside on Crete? This is a period in history that is hard to understand. The Minoans were the first empire we know of to rule the Mediterranean. The Mycenaeans took control of Crete after the fall of the Minoans. So was Agamemnon the king of Crete? And then why did "Greeks" go from having full control of the Mediterranean and having their king (I think) sit on the throne of Crete, diminishing down to a bunch of separate city states on mainland Greece. It's all very confusing. I'm not looking for someone to try and answer these questions in a single comment. Anyone got some good links to videos that can help me understand how we go from Minoans, to the fall of the Mycenaeans and through to the formation of the Greek polis system. I think my biggest confusion is how we went from an empire to a city state feudal system. Greeks went from sieging Troy as an empire to sieging each other, why/how? Athenians fighting Spartans. Why weren't they still an empire. Honestly I feel like I don't even understand what the word "Greek" even means at this point.
@@bigw725 Agamemnon and Menelaos were sons of Atreus.
Its mad because Brad was 41 when this film was made, I thought he was 25 or something XD
WHAT
Well, thats Hollywood Make Up Magic
Clearly good genetics too
Yeah I thought he was younger to the way he moves around like that.
@@thesilky0ne899 : He keeps his weight down and works out obsessively. Do that , and you'd be surprised at how mobile you are even into your 70's and 80's (my grandma was literally still bouncing - you know how little kids, teens, and athletes sometimes seem to 'bounce' when they walk? - around at 75 until she finally got a big disease: breast cancer and lost one breast. Even so she lived 18 more years and it wasn't until the last two years of her life that she needed more than a single cane but a walker in order to walk around . I think it's because she was a farmgirl who gardened a lot, ate well, and never smoked.) Obviously age limits us all (until they either get bionic limbs or treatments for aging) but exercise and good diet do make a vast difference so long as you can keep them up.
Despite how inaccurate the movie is to the original story, I actually like this movie. Instead of a grandiose mythical story it's like a realistic war story without all the gods and goddesses
If you wanted a 100% accurate telling in a movie format nothing would have happened because the time between events would have been spread out. We've got history books for that.
@@cptjohnbhewler1529 it’s not even a true historical event, it’s an epic poem
@@allenwalker5208 I never said it was and it's still up for debate whether the poems based off historical events or not. However Troy was a real city, If you wanted a Historical telling of the city nothing would have happened In a contained story arc for us, the audience.
@@cptjohnbhewler1529 I know, I was just talking about the supernatural aspect of the story whereas the movie takes a more realistic approach
@@allenwalker5208 well its has proven that it actually happend they have founs troy...it is a real History...
Side note: something the Iliad (the book of this) does really well is “war is hell.” A lot of the time the poet basically went:
“This is Dave, he grew up in Troy. His father made baskets. He has two younger brothers who he would fish with. He came to war to win glory for himself, his family, and his city. Ajax (the big guy with the club and beard) thrust his spear truly, which pierced Dave’s eye. The spear became slick with blood and ocular fluid. Ajax removed his weapon and continued.”
And that’s the end of Dave.
Troy takes place long before 300, so these Spartans are also from a bygone era. Hence later Spartans are said to be descended from legendary figures like Achilles and Hercules. Although the story of the Trojan War is known to us from Homer's epic poem 'Iliad', therefore based largely on legend (Homer lived long after it supposedly happened), an archaeologist later found an ancient city site in Turkey that most historians today agree corresponds to the legendary city of Troy, giving credence to the story or at least belief that a major war might have taken place at the site. Whether the story actually happened as depicted or at all is still up for debate. According to Homer, Trojans are believed to have been Anatolian Greeks from earlier Greek settlements in the region or even Hellenised Anatolians. Turks only arrived in the Anatolia region in the 11th century, over 2 thousand years after the story of Troy. Hope I haven't botched any information haha. Great reaction!
Heinrich Schliemann, found the Troy treasure that Helen of Troy.. he literally deciphered The Iliad.
"I'm taking over this channel..." Third time I've heard the sister of a reactor say that. It may be a sister thing.
she should!
The sister power is strong with this episode😂
Ash was so fired up he would have jumped into the sea and aquaman'ed all the way to the shore!
😂😂 Aquamaned hahaha too funny
Equilibrium starts with a Sean Bean narration.
Edit: I was wrong Sean Bean's voice over is a later scene, but everyone go watch Equilibrium.
Oh yeah that one is epic. You should listen to the German version though, it sounds amazing.
one of my favorite movies, so underrated.
She's so cute love her a bunch. Keep her around please.
Yes sir!!
Oh he's surely gonna kill his sister when he sees the Achilles VS Hector fight
Let’s just say my neighbours might of complained haha
@@justtrustash *pepehands* 😭
Mans was spittin facts when he said dudes would go to war over his sister 👀
😂😂 so you’re one too
The man was spitting a fact*
@@OriginalPuro spitting facts
She's a 10 and someone gets to hit every night. Everyone would fight for that
if I remember history correctly, the Trojan War took place centuries before the time of Leonidis
Yep, Trojan War was allegedly in 1184 BC, and Thermopylae was in 480 BC, so some 600-700 years between them.
@@mrs7195 👍
Correct. Though the precise date isn’t certain. I recall reading that archeologists have dug into seven different levels on the site. The Homeric poems are really the lyrics to songs that were sung for centuries and arranged into “novels” at a much later date, probably around 800 BC, and edited into a final “official” version around 600 BC.
There are hundreds of years and a dark age between them
Yeah, the story must have been passed down from a siege of an ancient version Troy long before the Iliad was put to paper. the whole romance part was added for entertainment reasons, Troy must have been competitor of the Greek States at that time commerce wise as a gate to the East. And a Siege lasting 10 years, never in that period maybe a year tops even.
Having your sister as a wife would be alright but having you as a brother in law would be badass lol
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😂😂 mate this had mr crying..made my day haha
I almost had a stroke reading this 😂😂
As a Thessalian ..Achilles was my ancestor and i am very proud of it.. I was born in Volos ..In Pelion mountain ..Achilles grow up and trained..Thank you so much for the reaction !!!
No way! That is amazing..I really need to visit Volos..thank you so much for the love ❤️
And Hercules was also trained in Pelion mountain by Hiron the same teacher.. Achilles army in Thessaly area was one of the best called "Myrmidons" we also have a small local team with that name ..In Thessaly area the locals most of them are blond with blue or green eyes...!!!
A mistake on that movie was that Patroklos wasn't his cousin but his best friend !!!
The kid getting roasted is one of my all time favorite lines.
"That's why no one will remember your name."
Troy was in Anatolia (modern day Turkey indeed) but it was a Greek tribe too. Turkish people immigrated in Anatolia during the late middle ages.
Before that, Anatolia has been inhabited by a lot of different people throughout history: the Hittites, the Assyrians, the Greeks and even some Celtic tribes.
By the time the events of Troy (supposedly) happened, western Anatolia was Greek. Interestingly, that part of Anatolia will remain culturally Greek even after the Persians (Aechemenid empire) took over.
Love the knowledge mate, thank you for this 👌🏾
I agree the trojans were a hellenic people
Never realized it but the white haired guy at the start is Grand Maester Pycelle in GoT.
Oh shit your right. We was in empire strikes back too. The guy who approaches vader when his helmet is going back on.
@@86leewis also the bad guy in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and the voice of Aragog the spider in Harry Potter
@@Aaron-io8vw
And the bad guy in the James Bond movie “For Your Eyes Only”
Julian Glover has been in a TON of things
4:58 Turkey doesnt have anything to do with Troy they immigrated from west Asia. Trojans were also a Greek tribe.Its just that those melodies sound arab because they originate from anatolia and the area of Byzantium.Not only arabs had and have that stereotypical melody in music.
Am I missing something? He was wondering where Troy was no? It's in current day Turkey no? Greece and Turkey practically border each other no? Btw, some useless knowledge, the Trojan Horse prop used for this movie resides in Turkey.
@@xerozeven If he was talking about location it is today's Turkey if he was talking about the stereotypical Turkic-Arabic melody to which I was referring to then it's not Turkish-Arabic. That was my starting arguement
@@antigonus1161 He was talking about location, so he got it right when he said Turkey.
@@xtravagentk1275 You dont have to say it a second time it's already cleared out
@@antigonus1161 How about a third? I think he was talking about location, so he got it right when he said Turkey. Lol I'm just playing dude.
Please remember that at the time of '300' and Leonidas , Achilles and Troy were 1000 year old MYTHS and LEGENDS to the Greeks. It's a great wonder they passed them down to us.
pretty sure Leonidas was a real character.
more like 300 plus some years ... Ancient Greek itself didn't even last a thousand years.
@@wonder777warrior6 read the comment again carefully
@@mr.noodles3954 now the statement has to be questioned. Would a myth or legend be passed on for 1k years? People wouldn't believe that unless it was true and the people who spread it by word of mouth believed it to be so. Kind of like Jesus christ, to think some people still deny the fact he existed when there's witness accounts of 500+ and more witnesses and authority figures like Pontius Pilot and Joseph's flavius claiming he did indeed exist.
Your sis: "I know that hurt". You: "It did." LOL!!
Still bruised 😂
"But I'm a Spartan"
"This is a brother everyone needs"... "yeah i agree" you two are so funny! would love to see you react to equilibrium with Christian Bale at some point
Yes Steve! Thank you for the kind words 👌🏾oh yes, anything with Christian bale I’m
Sold haha
I just love his Enthusiasm 😂
@@catcherinthesky ikr
Chill a little man i was your age once now all i got are bad bones
Appreciate the love mate, thank you!
As a Greek i must say something about how Hollywood take our stories and put "salsa" to spice it up! First of all in the actual myth, Helen was the Victim, Paris fell in love with her and kidnapped her, now the movie is correct about that Agamemnon always wanted to go to war with Trojans, and he finally had the chance to do it with the abduction of Helen as an excuse. Trojans were also Greeks based in modern Turkey as so many Greek people and cities were once there before the Ottomans capture them all drive Greeks back to the mainland. Great reaction though! Also i would like to react to Kingdom of Heaven!.
Love your knowledge and appreciate the love mate, thank you ❤️
@@justtrustash Thank you brother, i like your reactions you are doing a good job! Wish you health and happiness to you and your family!
I agree the trojans were a hellenic people not turkic or Hittite
@@IronHead92 Have you ever played Assassin's Creed: Odyssey which is an rpg set during the Peleponnesian War which has been praised for it's historical accuracy despite having a totally skewed map of Greece and the Aegean Islands?
@@B-A-L I need to play this game. I have heard its amazing and have seen so many videos with it!
Fun reaction. Just for edification. This is 'supposed' to be Bronze age Sparta, and 300 was 'supposed' to be Iron Age Sparta, so not the same civilizations.
Fun fact, when you said Leonidas fought his own battles, well in the mythos of Ancient Greece, the Spartans are descendants of akilles
What! Mate that has blown me away..is there a documentary on this at all?
Achilles*.
@Rune Kristensen well not those spartans obviously😂 but the ones we see in 300
@Rune Kristensen we’re talking about the myths here. Factually , we don’t even know if akilles existed
Spartans claimed lineage from Hercules not Achilles. Obviously Sparta already existed in the setting of the story. Achilles wasn't Spartan.
This movie is totally epic and so well done, definitely one of my favorite films of all time!!
Appreciate the love Robert thank you 🙏🏾
Achilles point is sword at his cousin and his cousins reaction was abit of foreshadowing. Same exact reaction got him unalived
“Politicians make a dumb decisions and people suffer for it” 12:00 so damn true✔️✔️✔️
Yet politicians sometimes make good decisions too
This and Gladiator are my favorite movies of all time
You guys DEFINITELY need to watch Apocalypto👍🏼
That movie is very bad!!
Not before Mad Max Fury Road. That would be blasphemous.
I'd prefer The Dead Lands.
Greetings from Greece... And i just love when you react on these movies.. Jesus is so funny
Wow my Greek mate..appreciate your kind words mate, thank you!!
Next movie will be?...I recommend - Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (2010), Alexander (2004), V for Vendetta (2005), The Hunt for Red October (1990), The Name of the Rose (1986).
Agreed. I'd add Kingdom of Heaven as well, which ironically also stars Orlando Bloom. Nice choice in movies btw! 👍
@@Nimbus1701 Thanks.
Back in 2003 when I was in college I was vacationing with some friends close to where parts of this movie were being filmed and a friend and I actually got invited to appear as extras. Since I am dark-haired I was supposed to be a random Trojan soldier and my friend, who's blond, was going to be a random Greek soldier. Unfortunately the exact date of the shoot was the same day we had to go back home for final exams and we couldn't take more days off.
"I would go to war for your sister" ❤️
The legend here is that when achilles was born the gods grabbed him by his feet and dipped him upside down in the water of immortality. The only thing wrong was the part the gods held him by (His ankle) didn’t submerge in the water. Meaning everything was immortal except his foot area. It’s ironic that the way achilles dies is an arrow to the ankle. And ever since then, this area of the ankle has been known as the “Achilles heel”.
“Turkey’!! Ya boi is natural geographic” 😂😂😂
The classical timeline goes that Hercules razed Troy when King Priam's father was on the throne, for breaking a big promise to him. As part of the spoils of war, Hercules's companion Theseus (as in '& the Minotaur') claimed Priam's sister as his prize. Priam vowed to make Troy great again in the aftermath and succeeded. He diverted the trade routes between the Far East and ancient Europe so everything had to pass through Troy. It is said he also gained so much favour with the Gods, that Poseidon the sea-god helped to raise new walls for the city (hence the reason why the Greeks could never breach or take them).
But despite all this good fortune, Priam was not satisfied. Time after time, he offered to pay a queen's ransom many times over for his sister's return, but each time Theseus refused his offer. So it was that he began to look for allies amongst the noble Greek families to see if any would help him negotiate his sister's release. But all this took literally decades, and even by the time Paris fled with Helen and Theseus had died, his sister was not given back.
So he reasoned that if his son had brought back a Greek King's wife and Queen, it was only fair seeing that none had helped to send his sister home.
Been waiting days for this
Haha hope you enjoyed it mate, thank you 🙏🏾
Omg u got me so hype haha, plss upload the rest I need this, nice videos keep that awesome work, greetins from spain
Wow Spain!! Thank you mate, I will edit it soon and drop the rest 👌🏾
Patroclos was actually NOT Achilles' cousin! Scholars are squabbling over if the two were lovers or just really good friends even to this day (some ancient writers talking about the Illiad say that they were lovers, some say they were not), but still, they were not cousins. But, typically Hollywood, they made sure to have them be related to exclude any possibility that some may have the idea to interpret them as lovers. No matter what they were, since Patroclos was the reason Achilles flew into a rage and took up fighting again, the relationship in the movie is portrayed a bit thin; they train together, whoa, great, but that's it more or less. In my eyes, not reason enough to go on a killing spree for revenge.
No where in the Illiad does it mention that Achilles and Patroclos were lovers
12:43, Greek D day shot by Petersen who did not have U boats to use in this film, great action scenes there, for sure.
I guess this is why we "just trust Ash" - from Wikipedia - Troy (Greek: Τροία) or Ilium (Greek: Ίλιον) was an ancient city located at Hisarlik in present-day Turkey, 30 kilometres (19 mi) south-west of Çanakkale. It is known as the setting for the Greek myth of the Trojan War.
Props for sussing out the location!
I love this channel. You have so much energy and hype during these things that it gets me pumped as well.
Your banter with your sister is freakin hilarious.
You: "Everyone should have a brother like that"
Sis: "I know" 😂
Stay Awesome guys, and thank you for your hard work💜
Ronny you legend! Thank you so much for your kind words..you proper hyped me up with this comment haha
Best reaction channel on UA-cam
i feel, there are more than one parts to follow, which makes me, as an spartan an very happy little lion :)
"YOU JUST RUINED MY FEENG" 🤣 Best intro.
12:44 lmao 😂😂😂😂😂
You know I love you Ash but the best part of this reaction is your beautiful sassy sister in the beginning. “Finally. Not gonna be done til 1am” lol I adore your relationship. 👑👑💖💖
Hahaha what!! You cheating on me now Yh?
@@justtrustash you’ll always be my first lol 😂 👑🤣🤣
Troy is/was located in the west part of Turkey and Greece is located to the far left of it across the Aegean Sea, and to the top/right of Troy is the Black Sea. Troy was located in a perfect spot for trading goods since it was so close to the Aegean Sea and so close to Greece for trading so that’s why everyone wanted it.
Literally rewatching for the comedic banter and commentary
Ding ding! Troy is modern Turkey. At the time, the landmass of Turkey was called Anatolia, though the Greeks tended to call the Trojans, Illyrians. Meaning that the Iliad (the war poem by Homer that was the inspiration for Troy) basically means “The Trojan Tale” or “Troy Story (not my joke, can’t take credit)!
HI GUYS! Missed you both so much
BTW, the spear is the primary weapon, so when Achilles leaves it in the first fight scene vs the Thessalonian hero, he is showing everyone that he is confident. Notice how the other hero uses all his weapons.
Damn, that was a quick catch with Sean Bean's voice!
I love this guys reaction are so emotional! This is why movies are made! To live through them!
3:30 Trojan war was around 1200 b.c. the battle at Thermopylae was 480 b.c. Troy was at turkey,the exact location is unknown. Also they are Myrmidons the best warriors at that time of greece
i want these type of people to be my friends. theyd bring laughter to anything
"I'd be jumpin in the water.....I'd be swimmin....." I just subbed for that....lol.
Hectors wife.... was also in The Bank Job and Gangster no1... both awesome movies...
1)Troy was also a Greek city. It was a civil war between Greek tribes and city-states and their allies.
Turkey didn’t exist back then.
2)The famous city of Sparta of 500 bC was a completely different city from the Sparta of the Trojan war era 1300 bC).
Sparta of the Trojan war was inhabited by Achaean Greeks. Sparta of classical era (500 bC) was inhabited by Dorian Greeks who initially lived in Epirus and Macedonia and later they migrated to Peloponese, subjugated the Achaians who lived there and transformed Sparta into a military superpower city-state
11:21 That´s a legend, the fact is that the city was an strategic seaport, and The confederation conquered it.
i wouldn't want to watch a movie for the 1st time with this guy ahahaha...kudos to the lady for handling it
😂😂 trust me, i would get kicked out of the cinema watching movies like this
3:33 Leonidas lived roughly 800 years AFTER that time era Troy is set 😉
Braveheart
The patriot
The last samurai
Hope you get to these movies😁😁
Oh mate, I haven’t seen any of them I will get to them eventually 👌🏾
@@justtrustash super! You'll love it😅
The girl from *Deep Blue Sea* was my childhood (platonic) crush too and I was so excited when I saw her in Troy.
Omg! Tell me about it..I remember I couldn’t watch the ending as a kid because I loved her so much 😂 we clearly have a great taste haha
@@justtrustash Ikr! She's gorgeous! I remember being very impressed with her performance and beauty. I'm so glad I was not the only one who recognized her!
Yup she's taking over 😂😍
Gotta love how quickly you recognized Sean Beans voice. This is also like the only movie he doesn't die in. x)
Priamo, the king of Troy, is a good person in this version but he is a fool as king. Yeah Parish was the biggest fool for taking her to Troy but Priamo could still do something, starting for sending her back to Troy. Probably Agamenon still would go to the war but i doubt Achilles. Hector is the only person with common sense to see the coming disaster.
Bruh what.
Priam. Paris. Agamemnon.
Why are you making up random names?
not a minute in and already love it
"get a grip" best reaction
Haha appreciate it mate, thank you for watching
So this setting is long before the hyper militarization of Sparta. This is during the Bronze Age, which ended around 1200 BC, while Sparta was reorganized around 800 BC
LOVE this movie. Love u 2 reactions! Found ur channel bc of John Wick, now working my way backwards through the archives haha! Subbed 👍🏾
Wow what a legend! Appreciate the love my brother ❤️
Waking up achilles 2:34
3:26
Hector 6:41 7:05 7:28 7:38
Troy in turkey 8:15
Patroclus 8:25
Sean Bean 8:45
Helen of Troy 9:40
Another great reaction bro! You and your sis have a great sibling relationship and are so funny. Laughed my head off.
Next reaction needs to be immortals .. not the best film but certainly would like to see your reaction 😃🤜💥🤛
Hahaha yes mate, appreciate the love..Don’t worry I’m watching this with or without my sister lol
Troy (in ancient Greek, Ἴλιος or Ilios), was located in western Turkey - not far from the modern city of Canakkale (better known as Gallipoli), at the mouth of the Dardarnelles strait
I first watched this movie in my World History class on the 10th grade.
You ARE correct sir, Troy was located in Turkey, and was renowned for it's incredibly high and thick city walls.
And not to be disrespectful at all but your sister is absolutely gorgeous and if she wanted to take over my channel, I'd let her lol
"yes, it did" lolol ol ol ol lmafoooooooooo bruh u muppet hahahahahahha
Great review. Looking forward to part 2! 😁
Appreciate the love mate, thank you ❤️ it will be uploaded in one hour mate.,
Great film. Hector is a Boss!!
Love y’all’s reaction. Are the other parts being released today as well?
Mate I’m still editing it, promise I will release it soon..appreciate the love mate 🙏🏾
This man's energy though fire 🔥
The people who lived in Ancient Turkey and the people who live in modern Turkey are two very different people.
Troy was a city in the Greek kingdom of Aiolia and centuries later the City was called Ilion. Unfortunately Aiolia Ionia Bithynia Pontus and North, Eastern Thrace are in Turkish hands and my country lost our classical lands. I'm Greek if it wasn't clear
You should check out the kingdom of heaven with Orlando Bloom
2:10 "look at this guys TRAPS...!!"
Achilles : "okay. Point noted."
Troy was Hittite for the record, or something very near to it (modern day Turkey, but in no way actually anything like the Turkey you know; many invasions/people-groups removed). They actually represented Hittite architecture/art rather well, I think. Then again, I am no expert.
Helen of Troy was the face that launched a thousand ships.
That first fight, i love how the gent says "look at the mens faces you could win this war with a swing of your sword", Kills the man with one swing of the sword. *challage completed*!
Achilles! Achilles! Achilles!
Your sister is great😌With love from Russia🖖
Awesome Reaction guys 💖💯
Appreciate it mate, thank you 🙏🏾
The real reason was not the beauty of Helen,but at that time,lands and kingdoms belonged to the women.So For example,Ithaca was not Odysseas kingdom,it was his wife Penelope and he married her and became a king.For many of the heroes on the trojan war,that was the case.So when Paris stole Helen (third time she was stolen in fact),in reality he tried to steal the kingdom from Menelaos,cause Sparta belonged to Helen.It was an act of war and not an act of love.Now imagine that Menelaos was brother to Agamemnon,who in previous years,killed the husband and child of Helen's sister Klitaimnistra and then married her,one of the strongest generals at the time and wanted his kingdom to get stronger,what golden opportunity was that.Achilleas on the other hand,was not just a soldier.Was a king also.All the heroes names in Iliad (Trojan war) were kings.The most noble names for the Greeks from the ancient times till modern era,were Achilleas and Ektoras.The two main heroes of the Trojan war.And that is because they were both Greeks and defend either their land or moral values etc.
She felt a connection with Hector???
Great! now I have to take a swing at Eric Bana.
I have been waiting for this!! Now were talking!❤️
Renz..you better be on it for part 2 you legend ❤️
To the 300, Alexander the great, even Rome. Troy. Troy was myth and legend. Sometimes it's easy to forget just when all these events took place. That hundreds of years separated them. Troy was ancient to even those we today consider ancient. People have been searching for the city of Troy for thousands of years.
Edit his original name was supposedly
Ligyron
Helen of Troy was referred to as "the face that launched a thousand ships". She's still known by that title.
Troy was on the Turkish coast. Good star! ⭐️
7:50 had me laughing so loud I awake my family 01 AM LOL
Achiles was so great, humans named a physical body part after him!
If you read the myths carefully, there was another potential reason for the Troyans to let Helen stay. The crown of Sparta went with her, Menelaos was only the king because she was his wife. It is important to note, that Paris actually married her. She wasn't his side-chick. And when he died in battle, they married her to his brother Deiphobus. The Troyans were staking a claim on a kingdom in Greece.