Perhaps in this universe DC did what Marvel did, nearly going bankrupt in the 90s and selling off the film rights to their biggest characters; Batman and Superman, leaving them trying to regain those characters years later when they actually need them while being forced to rely on less popular characters to kick off their Cinematic universe.
I feel like there’s two characters that would work better to replace Iron Man and Hulk. I'd go for S.T.R.I.P.E, as he's literally a bulky Iron Man, and Etrigan the Demon.
Those could work quite well, particularly since S.T.R.I.P.E obviously has a young hero character who he acts somewhat as a mentor to in Stargirl, much like tony and Peter.
What if this was made in the context of the JSA; the lineup would be something like Iron Man - Mr Terrific Captain America - Commander Steel Thor - Wonder Woman Black Widow - Black Canary Hawkeye - Wildcat War Machine - Sandman Falcon - The Flash (Jay Garrick) Hulk - Green Lantern (Alan Scott) Captain Marvel - Superman Black Panther - Aquaman Dr Strange - Doctor Fate Vision - Red Tornado Spiderman - Stargirl Ant Man - Atom Smasher Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch - Hawkman and Hawkwoman Guardians of the Galaxy - Suicide Squad yeah something like that
some suggestion for future videos like this: -What If DC have a Trilogy like the Raimi's Spider-man movies and a duology like Webb's -What If DC made the X-Men universe (probably with the Doom Patrol) -How the non Disney+ shows of this universe look like (like Agents of SHIELD would be Agents of ARGUS or Daredevil who would be Batman and with other Netflix DC shows crossed over in The Outsiders) -What If Marvel create a TV universe structured like the Arrowverse -What If Sony create a DC villain universe
There's a character in the "Bloodlines" DC event that literally is just the Hulk. Dude gets bigger and skin color changes based on how angry he is increasing his strength. He was part of the New Blood heroes and didn't really stick around long. Damage is better in every aspect, but I figured I'd mention him as a better counterpart.
VIDEO IDEAS! 1. Marvel villain cinematic universe structured like MCU (finding counterparts and leading to Thunderbolts in 2012) 2. A Spider-Man cinematic universe structured like MCU (different spidermen movies leading to Spiderverse) 3. A JSA based off of the Illuminati from Mom 4. Disney cinematic universe structured like MCU 5. What a amalgam cinematic universe would look like (pick a universe and make a movie/show for the Amalgam counterpart.
What If Marvel created a TV Universe similar to the DC's Arrowverse. Daredevil (Arrow) Ghost Rider (Constantine) Spider-Man(Flash) Carol Danvers's Ms Marvel(Supergirl) Fantastic 4 (LOT) Luke Cage(Black Lightning) White Tiger(Vixen) X-Men(Doom Patrol) Secret Warriors(Titans)
I'd say that, at least the basic premise of Supergirl would line up better to She Hulk (female cousin of male hero with same powers tries to find her own place outside his shadow) As for LOT, personally I'd go either for New Warriors, or an Original team name, fairly sure Legends of Tomorrow was a name created for the show.
Phase 4: Wandavision-would have to be something with Terra and Red Tornado, but I would ideally make it about Beast Boy making a deal with Mumbo Jumbo to use magic to bring Terra back after a Judas Contract adaptation. Falcon & Winter Soldier-Hawkman & Citizen Steel Loki-Circe What If-Tales From The Dark Multiverse (narrated by The Spectre) Hawkeye-Green Arrow Moon Knight-Batman Ms. Marvel-Captain Marvel Jr. Black Widow-Black Canary Shang-Chi-Richard Dragon Eternals-Another New Gods thing. I would include Orion in the end-credits scene as the Starfox replacement, maybe use Becca as the main character. Spider-Man: No Way Home-Kinda has to be Blue Beetle and Dr. Fate messing up the multiverse, but I have no idea how this one would work Dr. Strange in The Multiverse of Madness-Dr. Fate 2, maybe introduce Justice League Dark in some way, like using Zatanna instead of America. I have no idea how Terra would be the villain, though. Thor: Love & Thunder-Wonder Woman 4. I guess Jane would be replaced with that new character from Future Slate (or Steve Trevor lol)
Or wanda vision could be a savitar show because wanda and savitar as characters have lots of similarities they both use to be superheros who weard a red suit and turn to the dark side trying to save the love of there life's it could be about barry stilling earth 2 Barry's life after team flash on earth 1 dies and he takes velocity 9 and nora and bart could be unborn it could be a sort of mystery thriller but i love your ideas and i agree Santana would be a good replacement for america 👍
Elseworlds might be logical, but I think Tales From The Dark Multiverse is more marketable, and it would be easier to make it work with the opening monologue.
They don't have much of a relationship with the other characters for that to work, but Winter Soldier's dc would be Red Hood, Quicksilver's would be The Flash, and Scarlet Witch's would be Zatanna (even if Zatanna is rare to be seen portrayed as a villain, but hey, she does questionable things in Identity Crisis)
This superhero line up seems like it would be a good jsa team more than a jl team also people consider batman to be dc's iron man not just because he's rich but also because they are both teched out
video ideas -A Batman specific movie universe like the Sony Spider-man universe -what would the arrowverse look like if CW had rights to all the DC chracters
Harley Quinn-Venom Harley Quinn 2-Venom: Let there be Carnage Man Bat-Morbius Bane-Kraven the Vegan Bat Mite-Madam Web King Kraken-El Muerto White Rabbit-Jackpot Secret Six-Sinister Six
I have the same reaction as you do to the end result. It's certainly far different than what I would have expected but it's still very interesting and I would totally watch this cinematic universe. The whole thing just makes me imagine an alternate world where everything that happened to Marvel happened to DC instead, losing rights to their biggest heavy hitters leaving them to compromise and try to make the most out of what they have left. Great video as always. I've actually been around since you've been making Arrowverse content lol.
Not having Batman, Superman, the Teen Titans, Doom Patrol, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, ect - would be just like how in the MCU they couldn't use their most popular assets like the X-Men or Fantastic Four. Except honestly a lot more obscure for the exact marvel equivalents lol. The hoops you had to go through to put Damage and Bumblebee in are hilarious!
@Cary that was thought for the first Iron Man at the time too. Blue Beetle isn't nearly as obscure as DAMAGE(who irl came out like 8 years later). Steel is another odd ball, as he's doesn't really have his own stories, as said in the video. In the MCU lineup, they too were forced to use B tier or C tier characters and make them A tier, like the picks Blue Beetle or Captain Atom. But that's the point, they have to be as close counterparts as possible to the MCU lineup. Blue Beetle isn't a bad pick, he has his own stories and legacy, and is relatively known. As known as Iron Man was at the time I'd say. Steel or Damage are a lot more odd. I will say, I would have preferred Blue Beetle 2 to be about Ted Kord and Booster Gold, their friendship is the best.
I'd replace Donna with Nubia, in the Nubia was separated from the Amazons on a separate planet from by Ares/Mars, which works really well as an equivalent to Ragnarok since it would explain why Damage is competing in Gladiatorial combat on a planet run by a Greek/Roman God.
Phase 4: WandaVision-TerraTornado Falcon and The Winter Soldier-Hawkman and Citizen Steel Loki-Maybe Constantine or Mr.Mxyzptlk/Booster Gold or Rip Hunter as Mobius Black Widow-Black Canary/Huntress as Yelena Shang Chi-Damion Wayne/Ras Al Guel as the Mandarin What If-Elseworlds Eternals-New Gods Hawkeye-Green Arrow and Roy Harper No Way Home-Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle 3 Moon Knight-Batman Multiverse of Madnesses-Doctor Fate 2/Zatanna as America Chavez Ms.Marvel:Freddie Freeman Love and Thunder: Wonder Woman 4/Steve Trevor with Powers as Jane replacement Wakanda Forever: Vixen 2/Aquaman as Namor She-Hulk-Idfk Quantamania-Atom and Bumblebee Marvels-Mary, Freddie, Darla as Monica Rambeu Guardians 3-Forever People 3
I would put Booster Gold as Blue Beetle side kick. I'm thinking that likely slipped your mind or I haven't watched enough of thr video yet and uses him elsewhere. If u haven't, would u replace captin atom with Booster as the DCU "Warmachine."
I was thinking for the time travel, to have a throwaway line in the Shazam movie about the Rock of Eternity being made up of pieces of rocks from the past, but if they get separated they'll try to return. Then in Darkseid War pt.2 you have Mary remember that and bring it up, so your tech based heroes can figure out how to catch a ride with them.
Phase Four: Black Canary dies and Sara Lance becomes White Canary. Kobra with twin Jason who knows martial arts going against twin Naja Naja. Immortal Men with characters that have lived thousands or hundreds of years. It would star Vandal and Infinite Woman. Dr. Fate and the Hypertime of Horror would have Zatanna mid credits. Wonder Woman would encounter Stalker or the Olympian in WW: Bullets and Bracelets. For TV, you have Terra, Captain Steel and Black Condor, Wonder Warrior (Donna is Loki), Green Arrow (training Artemis), Tales of the Dark Multiverse, Hawkman (Moon Knight), Starman Jack Knight (if Stargirl was the Captain Marvel analogue here), and Kate Spencer Manhunter.
I think I would have Green lantern as the hulk counterpart because we don't really have a hulk like character who's a hero (other than damage), and Green lantern is green. Its very surface level but it's something. Also I'd have booster gold instead of captain atom.
As for Phase 4 i’d have Batman be the replacement for Moon Knight. Moon Knight has a very different backstory, but the fact that he was partially based off of Batman works in my opinion. Also if this was real and Batman were to be introduced so late would actually be so hype. Imagine after like 10+ DC movies we’d finally get the introduction of Batman after so long would be crazy.
It could work if they base the story off of Ego, which is a story that focuses on the differences between how Batman acts and how Bruce acts and how it impacts his psyche and Gotham as a whole. It could be a more introspective take on Batman where he still had to come to terms with this whole thing, and they could make him younger to fit more with this premise. The villain could be the Joker, since he has deep connections with Batman and the great Batman/Joker stories are the ones that delve more deeply into how they are more similiar than Bruce thinks.
i more imagine Batman as the Daredevil counterpart in the Netflix MCU/DCCU series with Black Lightning (Luke Cage) Katana or another martial artist hero (Iron Fist) Halo (Jessica Jones) and Vigilante (The Punisher) who later crossing over in The Outsiders miniseries (The Defenders counterpart) with the League of Assasins (The Hand counterpart) as the main villain. and later Bruce Wayne appears in Blue Beetle 3 as a supporter of Jamie Reyes against the omicide accuse (and The Penguin or Carmine Falcone would be the Kingpin counterpart in the Green Arrow series). a Moon Knight counterpart would be The Question or another obscure DC vigilante or why not a DC Egypt themed hero or a hero with DID like Marc (Rorschach should fits, but he is not in the DC Universe)
I replaced commander steel with general glory then insetad of justice league made it the JSA and I would’ve had it the start of the dceu with it being in the past.
A DC Golden Age universe would be this: PHASE 1: Superman: Champion of the Opressed Wonder Woman Superman: Man of Steel (introducing Doctor Mid-Nite) Batman: the Mad Monk (detective noir story, introducing Alan Scott's GL in the post credit) Commander Steel: The Indistructible Man The Justice Society PHASE 2: Superman vs the Atom Man Batman & Robin (Joker as the Main villain) Commander Steel: Captain Nazi project (Hawkman) Freedom Fighters Justice Society: Justice for All (introducing Jay Garrick, Aquaman and Thunderbolt, this One dies. Injustice Society as the Main villain) Shazam PHASE 3: Commander Steel: End of an Era (based on The Golden Age) Green Lantern (featuring Hal Jordan) Freedom Fighters: Korea The Flash (introducing Barry Allen) Batman: The Last Case (Dick Grayson take the mantle of Batman at the end of the movie) Aquaman Justice Society: Starro the Conqueror (the JSA reunites to facing Starro the Conqueror, but failing) Shazam and the Marvel Family Martian Manhunter Justice League (After the failing of the JSA to defeat Starro. A new team composed by Superman, Batman ll, Wonder Woman, Flash ll, Aquaman, Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter fight Starro and save the world with Superman sacrifice. The JLA Is formed at the end of the movie) The Flash 2 (introducing Kid Flash and Reverse Flash as the Main villain) The next saga would be concentred about Silver Age and Bronze Age stories, and the Multiverse.
I love this actually feels like an alternate universe where DC was the one that sold the rights to their most popular characters, and now had to make a cinematic universe with the lesser known characters.
My Custom DC Cinematic Universe: docs.google.com/document/d/1-2GGnj0thctvbWJPj57P73PyVJvTkGvWkONv41vK9Z4/edit The Document contains my output on how the DC Cinematic Universe should have been structured in both Film & Television form.
Isn’t Supergirl the counterpart to Captain Marvel? I mean, Kara and Carol Danvers… But at the same time, I’d replace her with a young Superman that’s been in the future the whole time. Have his movie be when he’s young and doesn’t know how to fly until the end of the movie. Make Brainiac the villain to replace the Supreme Intelligence. In the end, he goes to the future to be with the Legion of Superheroes. This way, when you have the WandaVision counterpart, you can introduce John Henry for Monica Rambeau. Then Superboy for Ms Marvel. And because Superman died in the Endgame counterpart instead of Blue Beetle, you have Reign of the Supermen for The Marvels.
Sentry - Man of Steel Moon Knight V Sentry - Batman V Superman Thunderbolts - Suicide Squad Hercules - Wonder Woman Avengers - Justice League Namor - Aquaman Captain Marvel - Shazam A-Force - Birds of Prey Hercules: Gods and Monsters - Wonder Woman 84 Joss Whedon's Avengers - Zack Snyder's Justice League The Thunderbolts - The Suicide Squad U.S Agent - Peacemaker Doctor Doom - Black Adam Quicksilver - The Flash Namor: The Submariner - Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom Captain Marvel 2 - Shazam Fury of the Gods Midnight - Batgirl Spider Man - Blue Beetle
Phase 4 would be: TerraTornado Hawkman and Citizen Steel Circe Black Canary Ravager vs. the League of Assassins The New Gods Green Arrow and Speedy Blue Beetle: No Way Home Batman Doctor Fate in the Multiverse of Madness Starfire Wonder Woman: Truth and Honor Elastigirl Vixen 2 The Forever People Holiday Special The Atom and Bumblebee: Micromania The Forever People Vol. 3 Shazam Family Also the various TV shows that coincided with the Darkseid Saga would be: Agents of D.E.O. Stargirl Tamarans Doctor Mid-Nite The Question Black Lightning Richard Dragon The Outsiders Deadshot The Teen Titans Hawk and Dove
I think having Wonder Woman swapped with Orion would've actually worked really well especially with later movies, when Orion meets Artemis instead of Donna Troy as the Valkyrie counterpart. Artemis would talk about losing her sisters alluding to Donna and Wonder Woman and the other Amazons, the theme of the stories would've been High father casting out Orion to learn to control his anger and take lessons from the old gods so he can eventually lead the new gods. In contrast to the infinity stones, Thanos could be looking for secrets to unlocking the source wall which he's told houses the anti-life equation. These components could be magical items which would work like Fate's helmet and items held by Jason blood etc. Cracking the source wall could lead to multiverse stuff like Kang does currently by using either the Anti-Monitor or Perpetua in future projects. 🙏🏾 This was a great video, super unique and I'd love to see a story with these characters.
Who should die in the forever people? If you're going 1 for 1, surely you gotta pick Mr miracle for his connection to Darkseid, it could be adapted to say 'most respected' or 'most valued' instead of 'loved'
Bruh, c'mon, you could've replaced Swamp Thing with Damage for Hulk since both Hulk and ST are green monster-types created by science accident. Also either Steel or Booster Gold would have worked for sidekicks of Blue Beetle, one is armored black dude who has his own responsibility and the other one is a close friend of the hero who acts as "sidekick"
For a hulk movie I’d say Etrigan the demon coz Jason blood for Bruce banner and etrigan for hulk then lost credit scene would be a bar in Manchester showing Constantine walking through the doors
I think you need explain this as most of the heavy hitters sold to an outside company before getting them back so I would be intrigued with what would be for Fox and Sony using some of the heavy hitters For Fox in this scenario something to equivalent to XMEN and F4... maybe Superman and storyline/villains for XMEN while Batman and family with villains for F4 Sony gets The Flash
17:30 Since Hank Pym (the original Ant-Man) is married to Janet van Dyne (the original Wasp), and Hope is their daughter, Ray Palmer (the original Atom) and Karen Beecher (the original Bumblebee) would have a daughter who becomes romantically involved with Ryan.
Throw your lesser known characters as the leaders of your cinematic universe even when you have the movie rights of your biggest heavy hitters isn't good thinking.
Well it’s better then just another Batman or Superman movie. Give a lesser story first as a character that not many people know instead of the same story you’ve heard way too many times.
all batman and ironman similarities rich parents dead no powers great tech both smart both have sidekicks butlers have butlers both playboys both have multiple suits 9 similarities
@@christinaanderson6944 allegra is not a famous character I think. One of the person who created that character was Eric Wallace, and that's why she is in the flash, because eric wallace is the showrunner. And the flash show wouldn't exist, so please just turn on your brain. This is not the sonyverse.
@@christinaanderson6944 btw "than" is used when you want to say "flash is faster than superman" or "I like reverse flash better than flash" and in your last comment there "then" should be used. Like if "thor 4 comes out then I will watch that".
Phase 4 Terra The Red Tornado Series The New Captain Steel Series Pariah S1 Black Canary Elseworlds S1 Karate Kid The Other New Gods Green Arrow Series The Hymirayer Blue Beetle 3 Batman Series Doctor Fate: Multiverse Mayhem Mr. Shazam! Series Wonder Woman: Gods & Mortals ???? (Idk For I Am Groot) Manhunter Series Vixen 2 (Aquaman Appears Here) Forever People: Holiday Special Phase 5 Atom 3 Invasion Series Forever People Vol.3 Deathstroke Series Pariah S2 Shazam 2 Katana Cyborg Series (I couldn't find anyone else) Zatana Series Nightwing Series Captain Steel 4 Suicide Squad Phase 6 Justice Society Of America Justice League: Crisis On Infinite Earths Part1 Justice League: Crisis On Infinite Earths Part2 This Took A Long Time
"Used the second Ant Man instead of Hank Pym for some reason" the reason is that they were never quite able to bring Hank Pym back from the alcoholic wife beater stain that they put on him and so they wanted to make sure that he wasn't who they hung the franchise on.
2 ideas: 1. What if DC sold their movie rights to the JLA and Teen Titans like Marvel had to sell theirs. 2. A Batman-specific Cinematic Universe (like Sony’s Spider-Man universe, but bigger and better)
@Jiyagi X Flows no, la whole cinematic universe just about Batman stuff, not just a trilogy of movies and a few shows. Do like, a films for Batman, Nightwing, Deadshot, Deathstroke, Mr. Freeze, Batgirl, Clayface, and others. Maybe build up to an Outsiders film.
@@gechoman44iwantahippo I feel like they’re gonna do more than just 1 trilogy and a few shows, if fan reception is good I know they’ll do spin off movies because that’s where the money is
My decisions. Hulk - Superboy Captain America - Guardian Thor - Steel Superman Iron Man - Blue Beetle Spider-Man - Black Spider Black Widow - Huntress Scarlett Which - Tara Black Panther - Red Lion Ant Man - Atom Smasher
Here’s an idea, what if the MCU was amlagamized like in Infinity Warp, not necessarily the same combos but fallowing a similar idea with the roster currently present in the MCU. You could make a good argument for many different combos, going with IronHammer like they did in the comics would work well but so would IronSorcerer or Iron-Spider. Since we don’t have GhostRider you could combine Thor with BlackPanther and then probably KillMonger with Hella.
So, just like Marvel didn't have the rights for Spider-Man and the X-Men, in this version DC didn't have the rights for Batman, Superman and the Flash...
-I feel like Etrigan could work as Hulk (Demon in a man's body).
-Booster Gold as Rhodes, mainly because they're bffs.
maybe aqauman as balck panther
and booster gold as war machine
@@spiderbat9957 booster gold should be the war machine of this dcu
I love how in this universe we have two Blue Beetle trilogies but no Batman or Superman films
Perhaps in this universe DC did what Marvel did, nearly going bankrupt in the 90s and selling off the film rights to their biggest characters; Batman and Superman, leaving them trying to regain those characters years later when they actually need them while being forced to rely on less popular characters to kick off their Cinematic universe.
Checks out. The MCU has two Thor trilogies and no Fantastic4/Xmen
@@Coconut_Prrsonthor wasn’t unpopular though
@@Coconut_PrrsonThor has 4 movies… how is that 2 trilogies?
@@alexfirefly1956 Thor 5 is confirmed already. And Thor 6 is probably gonna happen too
I feel like u should do this with villains too.
Green goblin/ Joker
Its Morbin Time
@SuperSlayer296 doomsday can also be considered hulk as well
I’d be down for that
Yeah that would be really cool with the villains as the justice league
I feel like there’s two characters that would work better to replace Iron Man and Hulk.
I'd go for S.T.R.I.P.E, as he's literally a bulky Iron Man, and Etrigan the Demon.
Those could work quite well, particularly since S.T.R.I.P.E obviously has a young hero character who he acts somewhat as a mentor to in Stargirl, much like tony and Peter.
@@medafan53 A Stargirl and S.T.R.I.P.E. film sounds like a good jumping-off point for a DC Cinematic Universe.
Gone, gone, the form of man. Rise the demon Etrigan!
What if this was made in the context of the JSA; the lineup would be something like
Iron Man - Mr Terrific
Captain America - Commander Steel
Thor - Wonder Woman
Black Widow - Black Canary
Hawkeye - Wildcat
War Machine - Sandman
Falcon - The Flash (Jay Garrick)
Hulk - Green Lantern (Alan Scott)
Captain Marvel - Superman
Black Panther - Aquaman
Dr Strange - Doctor Fate
Vision - Red Tornado
Spiderman - Stargirl
Ant Man - Atom Smasher
Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch - Hawkman and Hawkwoman
Guardians of the Galaxy - Suicide Squad
yeah something like that
some suggestion for future videos like this:
-What If DC have a Trilogy like the Raimi's Spider-man movies and a duology like Webb's
-What If DC made the X-Men universe (probably with the Doom Patrol)
-How the non Disney+ shows of this universe look like (like Agents of SHIELD would be Agents of ARGUS or Daredevil who would be Batman and with other Netflix DC shows crossed over in The Outsiders)
-What If Marvel create a TV universe structured like the Arrowverse
-What If Sony create a DC villain universe
DCs version of the raimi spiderman trilogy was the nolanverse batman films
something with the animated dc films?
Daredevil would probably be Nightwing or red hood
I really really like the way you think, dude.
What I did in my universe was have knightwatch which is a agency in the arrowverse be the agents of shield of my universe.
There's a character in the "Bloodlines" DC event that literally is just the Hulk. Dude gets bigger and skin color changes based on how angry he is increasing his strength. He was part of the New Blood heroes and didn't really stick around long. Damage is better in every aspect, but I figured I'd mention him as a better counterpart.
“What the mcu would look like replaced by dc characters”
This was unexpected
VIDEO IDEAS!
1. Marvel villain cinematic universe structured like MCU (finding counterparts and leading to Thunderbolts in 2012)
2. A Spider-Man cinematic universe structured like MCU (different spidermen movies leading to Spiderverse)
3. A JSA based off of the Illuminati from Mom
4. Disney cinematic universe structured like MCU
5. What a amalgam cinematic universe would look like (pick a universe and make a movie/show for the Amalgam counterpart.
What If Marvel created a TV Universe similar to the DC's Arrowverse.
Daredevil (Arrow)
Ghost Rider (Constantine)
Spider-Man(Flash)
Carol Danvers's Ms Marvel(Supergirl)
Fantastic 4 (LOT)
Luke Cage(Black Lightning)
White Tiger(Vixen)
X-Men(Doom Patrol)
Secret Warriors(Titans)
I'd say that, at least the basic premise of Supergirl would line up better to She Hulk (female cousin of male hero with same powers tries to find her own place outside his shadow)
As for LOT, personally I'd go either for New Warriors, or an Original team name, fairly sure Legends of Tomorrow was a name created for the show.
Iron Heart for Batwoman
I think Hawkeye would be arrow
As a substitute for the Infinity Stones you could use various colored Lantern rings.
Phase 4:
Wandavision-would have to be something with Terra and Red Tornado, but I would ideally make it about Beast Boy making a deal with Mumbo Jumbo to use magic to bring Terra back after a Judas Contract adaptation.
Falcon & Winter Soldier-Hawkman & Citizen Steel
Loki-Circe
What If-Tales From The Dark Multiverse (narrated by The Spectre)
Hawkeye-Green Arrow
Moon Knight-Batman
Ms. Marvel-Captain Marvel Jr.
Black Widow-Black Canary
Shang-Chi-Richard Dragon
Eternals-Another New Gods thing. I would include Orion in the end-credits scene as the Starfox replacement, maybe use Becca as the main character.
Spider-Man: No Way Home-Kinda has to be Blue Beetle and Dr. Fate messing up the multiverse, but I have no idea how this one would work
Dr. Strange in The Multiverse of Madness-Dr. Fate 2, maybe introduce Justice League Dark in some way, like using Zatanna instead of America. I have no idea how Terra would be the villain, though.
Thor: Love & Thunder-Wonder Woman 4. I guess Jane would be replaced with that new character from Future Slate (or Steve Trevor lol)
Or wanda vision could be a savitar show because wanda and savitar as characters have lots of similarities they both use to be superheros who weard a red suit and turn to the dark side trying to save the love of there life's it could be about barry stilling earth 2 Barry's life after team flash on earth 1 dies and he takes velocity 9 and nora and bart could be unborn it could be a sort of mystery thriller but i love your ideas and i agree Santana would be a good replacement for america 👍
@@christinaanderson6944 Comic Savitar is very different
@@arkhamedits your right
Elseworlds is the logical replacement for What if??
Elseworlds might be logical, but I think Tales From The Dark Multiverse is more marketable, and it would be easier to make it work with the opening monologue.
You could easily put Booster Gold as Blue Beetle's sidekick
Red rocket should have been the counter part of iron man
Dc has their own version of thor in the comics you should have choose him as the counterpart
You are forgetting one thing, Warner Bros. and Paramount have to have a fight over Blue Beetle.
why not share the character ?
@@carterblake3410 they could but would they want to
@@parkpix9230 true if waner brothers and paramount makes a deal
Bro there’s literally a DC character named Hugo Strange who is a doctor, DR STRANGE!
They don't have much of a relationship with the other characters for that to work, but Winter Soldier's dc would be Red Hood, Quicksilver's would be The Flash, and Scarlet Witch's would be Zatanna (even if Zatanna is rare to be seen portrayed as a villain, but hey, she does questionable things in Identity Crisis)
This superhero line up seems like it would be a good jsa team more than a jl team also people consider batman to be dc's iron man not just because he's rich but also because they are both teched out
video ideas
-A Batman specific movie universe like the Sony Spider-man universe
-what would the arrowverse look like if CW had rights to all the DC chracters
Maybe Arrow being a Batman Show, The Flash stayed the Same, Supergirl is Superman, Legends maybe a Teen Titans Show?!!! That's a awesome idea!!!
Harley Quinn-Venom
Harley Quinn 2-Venom: Let there be Carnage
Man Bat-Morbius
Bane-Kraven the Vegan
Bat Mite-Madam Web
King Kraken-El Muerto
White Rabbit-Jackpot
Secret Six-Sinister Six
I have the same reaction as you do to the end result. It's certainly far different than what I would have expected but it's still very interesting and I would totally watch this cinematic universe.
The whole thing just makes me imagine an alternate world where everything that happened to Marvel happened to DC instead, losing rights to their biggest heavy hitters leaving them to compromise and try to make the most out of what they have left.
Great video as always. I've actually been around since you've been making Arrowverse content lol.
Not having Batman, Superman, the Teen Titans, Doom Patrol, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, ect - would be just like how in the MCU they couldn't use their most popular assets like the X-Men or Fantastic Four. Except honestly a lot more obscure for the exact marvel equivalents lol. The hoops you had to go through to put Damage and Bumblebee in are hilarious!
@Cary that was thought for the first Iron Man at the time too. Blue Beetle isn't nearly as obscure as DAMAGE(who irl came out like 8 years later). Steel is another odd ball, as he's doesn't really have his own stories, as said in the video. In the MCU lineup, they too were forced to use B tier or C tier characters and make them A tier, like the picks Blue Beetle or Captain Atom. But that's the point, they have to be as close counterparts as possible to the MCU lineup. Blue Beetle isn't a bad pick, he has his own stories and legacy, and is relatively known. As known as Iron Man was at the time I'd say. Steel or Damage are a lot more odd. I will say, I would have preferred Blue Beetle 2 to be about Ted Kord and Booster Gold, their friendship is the best.
@Cary that's literally the exact same situation with Iron Man and look at what happened
I'd replace Donna with Nubia, in the Nubia was separated from the Amazons on a separate planet from by Ares/Mars, which works really well as an equivalent to Ragnarok since it would explain why Damage is competing in Gladiatorial combat on a planet run by a Greek/Roman God.
They may have different powers but I think Spiderman is more alike with The Flash than Blue Beetle.
Bit i say he will be quicksilver equalvanet
I would argue that Sideways, a superhero who was also apart of DC new hero wave in 2017, is a better counterpart then the second Blue Beetle.
Sideways isn't heavily utilized though
Neither is Damage
Phase 4:
WandaVision-TerraTornado
Falcon and The Winter Soldier-Hawkman and Citizen Steel
Loki-Maybe Constantine or Mr.Mxyzptlk/Booster Gold or Rip Hunter as Mobius
Black Widow-Black Canary/Huntress as Yelena
Shang Chi-Damion Wayne/Ras Al Guel as the Mandarin
What If-Elseworlds
Eternals-New Gods
Hawkeye-Green Arrow and Roy Harper
No Way Home-Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle 3
Moon Knight-Batman
Multiverse of Madnesses-Doctor Fate 2/Zatanna as America Chavez
Ms.Marvel:Freddie Freeman
Love and Thunder: Wonder Woman 4/Steve Trevor with Powers as Jane replacement
Wakanda Forever: Vixen 2/Aquaman as Namor
She-Hulk-Idfk
Quantamania-Atom and Bumblebee
Marvels-Mary, Freddie, Darla as Monica Rambeu
Guardians 3-Forever People 3
Circe is pretty much Wonder Woman's Loki so I think she'd work pretty well as a Loki equivalent.
Do shield 🛡 to captain America counterpart
What about shield ? He’s a dc character like captain America with similar weapons
You could do arrowverse but replaced by marvel characters
Daredevil-Arrow
Spider Man-The Flash
Lady Thor-Supergirl
X Men-Legends of Tomorrow
Iron Heart-Batwoman
Dr. Strange-Constantine
Ms. Marvel-Stargirl
Please do a part 2, I’m dying to know what Blue Beetle: No Way Hime is gonna be like.
I would put Booster Gold as Blue Beetle side kick. I'm thinking that likely slipped your mind or I haven't watched enough of thr video yet and uses him elsewhere. If u haven't, would u replace captin atom with Booster as the DCU "Warmachine."
I was thinking for the time travel, to have a throwaway line in the Shazam movie about the Rock of Eternity being made up of pieces of rocks from the past, but if they get separated they'll try to return. Then in Darkseid War pt.2 you have Mary remember that and bring it up, so your tech based heroes can figure out how to catch a ride with them.
You should’ve just replaced the Infinity Stones with the Mother Boxes.
It wouldn't have worked as well. Six stones and three mother boxes
Then just change it to make it where there’s more.
Thunderbolts- escuadrón suicida
Yelena belova- black cannary
Red guardián- kgbeast
Us agent- peacemaker
Ghost- phantom girl
Taskmaster- ravenger
Valentina allegra- amada waller
Bucky- ciudadano steele
4:23 booster gold: am I a joke to you
Phase Four: Black Canary dies and Sara Lance becomes White Canary. Kobra with twin Jason who knows martial arts going against twin Naja Naja. Immortal Men with characters that have lived thousands or hundreds of years. It would star Vandal and Infinite Woman. Dr. Fate and the Hypertime of Horror would have Zatanna mid credits. Wonder Woman would encounter Stalker or the Olympian in WW: Bullets and Bracelets. For TV, you have Terra, Captain Steel and Black Condor, Wonder Warrior (Donna is Loki), Green Arrow (training Artemis), Tales of the Dark Multiverse, Hawkman (Moon Knight), Starman Jack Knight (if Stargirl was the Captain Marvel analogue here), and Kate Spencer Manhunter.
I think I would have Green lantern as the hulk counterpart because we don't really have a hulk like character who's a hero (other than damage), and Green lantern is green. Its very surface level but it's something.
Also I'd have booster gold instead of captain atom.
Now you should do the inverse of this, being what the dceu would look like if replaced by marvel characters
Making the Ducktales Universe a Cinematic Universe With the Structure of the MCU
As for Phase 4 i’d have Batman be the replacement for Moon Knight. Moon Knight has a very different backstory, but the fact that he was partially based off of Batman works in my opinion. Also if this was real and Batman were to be introduced so late would actually be so hype. Imagine after like 10+ DC movies we’d finally get the introduction of Batman after so long would be crazy.
It could work if they base the story off of Ego, which is a story that focuses on the differences between how Batman acts and how Bruce acts and how it impacts his psyche and Gotham as a whole. It could be a more introspective take on Batman where he still had to come to terms with this whole thing, and they could make him younger to fit more with this premise. The villain could be the Joker, since he has deep connections with Batman and the great Batman/Joker stories are the ones that delve more deeply into how they are more similiar than Bruce thinks.
i more imagine Batman as the Daredevil counterpart in the Netflix MCU/DCCU series with Black Lightning (Luke Cage) Katana or another martial artist hero (Iron Fist) Halo (Jessica Jones) and Vigilante (The Punisher) who later crossing over in The Outsiders miniseries (The Defenders counterpart) with the League of Assasins (The Hand counterpart) as the main villain. and later Bruce Wayne appears in Blue Beetle 3 as a supporter of Jamie Reyes against the omicide accuse (and The Penguin or Carmine Falcone would be the Kingpin counterpart in the Green Arrow series).
a Moon Knight counterpart would be The Question or another obscure DC vigilante or why not a DC Egypt themed hero or a hero with DID like Marc (Rorschach should fits, but he is not in the DC Universe)
I replaced commander steel with general glory then insetad of justice league made it the JSA and I would’ve had it the start of the dceu with it being in the past.
With Batman and everyone else being rookies by the time the final jsa movie comes out
A DC Golden Age universe would be this:
PHASE 1:
Superman: Champion of the Opressed
Wonder Woman
Superman: Man of Steel (introducing Doctor Mid-Nite)
Batman: the Mad Monk (detective noir story, introducing Alan Scott's GL in the post credit)
Commander Steel: The Indistructible Man
The Justice Society
PHASE 2:
Superman vs the Atom Man
Batman & Robin (Joker as the Main villain)
Commander Steel: Captain Nazi project (Hawkman)
Freedom Fighters
Justice Society: Justice for All (introducing Jay Garrick, Aquaman and Thunderbolt, this One dies. Injustice Society as the Main villain)
Shazam
PHASE 3:
Commander Steel: End of an Era (based on The Golden Age)
Green Lantern (featuring Hal Jordan)
Freedom Fighters: Korea
The Flash (introducing Barry Allen)
Batman: The Last Case (Dick Grayson take the mantle of Batman at the end of the movie)
Aquaman
Justice Society: Starro the Conqueror (the JSA reunites to facing Starro the Conqueror, but failing)
Shazam and the Marvel Family
Martian Manhunter
Justice League (After the failing of the JSA to defeat Starro. A new team composed by Superman, Batman ll, Wonder Woman, Flash ll, Aquaman, Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter fight Starro and save the world with Superman sacrifice. The JLA Is formed at the end of the movie)
The Flash 2 (introducing Kid Flash and Reverse Flash as the Main villain)
The next saga would be concentred about Silver Age and Bronze Age stories, and the Multiverse.
Are you going to do the multiverse saga for this?
Can you do an updated version of this
If you could structure the Sony spiderman universe to your liking
I love this actually feels like an alternate universe where DC was the one that sold the rights to their most popular characters, and now had to make a cinematic universe with the lesser known characters.
My Custom DC Cinematic Universe: docs.google.com/document/d/1-2GGnj0thctvbWJPj57P73PyVJvTkGvWkONv41vK9Z4/edit
The Document contains my output on how the DC Cinematic Universe should have been structured in both Film & Television form.
Isn’t Supergirl the counterpart to Captain Marvel? I mean, Kara and Carol Danvers… But at the same time, I’d replace her with a young Superman that’s been in the future the whole time. Have his movie be when he’s young and doesn’t know how to fly until the end of the movie. Make Brainiac the villain to replace the Supreme Intelligence. In the end, he goes to the future to be with the Legion of Superheroes. This way, when you have the WandaVision counterpart, you can introduce John Henry for Monica Rambeau. Then Superboy for Ms Marvel. And because Superman died in the Endgame counterpart instead of Blue Beetle, you have Reign of the Supermen for The Marvels.
Could you continue this?
I think that Shazam could replace Thor
Shazam family for mar-vell family and wonder women's twin brother jason could replace Thor
You should’ve had Booster Gold for War Machine
That’s a good idea
The second film of the Beetle Trilogy
Blue & Gold
@UCaZh1J0hSn1fmcTBGka2KeA dude Ted and booster gold have one of the best friendships
Booster would fit better for Loki (the show version)
I said the same thing earlier.
Do the reverse of this what would the dceu look like replaced by mcu characters
Sentry - Man of Steel
Moon Knight V Sentry - Batman V Superman
Thunderbolts - Suicide Squad
Hercules - Wonder Woman
Avengers - Justice League
Namor - Aquaman
Captain Marvel - Shazam
A-Force - Birds of Prey
Hercules: Gods and Monsters - Wonder Woman 84
Joss Whedon's Avengers - Zack Snyder's Justice League
The Thunderbolts - The Suicide Squad
U.S Agent - Peacemaker
Doctor Doom - Black Adam
Quicksilver - The Flash
Namor: The Submariner - Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
Captain Marvel 2 - Shazam Fury of the Gods
Midnight - Batgirl
Spider Man - Blue Beetle
HELLO, good video! 🤩
Phase 4 would be:
TerraTornado
Hawkman and Citizen Steel
Circe
Black Canary
Ravager vs. the League of Assassins
The New Gods
Green Arrow and Speedy
Blue Beetle: No Way Home
Batman
Doctor Fate in the Multiverse of Madness
Starfire
Wonder Woman: Truth and Honor
Elastigirl
Vixen 2
The Forever People Holiday Special
The Atom and Bumblebee: Micromania
The Forever People Vol. 3
Shazam Family
Also the various TV shows that coincided with the Darkseid Saga would be:
Agents of D.E.O.
Stargirl
Tamarans
Doctor Mid-Nite
The Question
Black Lightning
Richard Dragon
The Outsiders
Deadshot
The Teen Titans
Hawk and Dove
Agents of SHIELD should be Agents of ARGUS. The DEO is a better match for SWORD
I think having Wonder Woman swapped with Orion would've actually worked really well especially with later movies, when Orion meets Artemis instead of Donna Troy as the Valkyrie counterpart.
Artemis would talk about losing her sisters alluding to Donna and Wonder Woman and the other Amazons, the theme of the stories would've been High father casting out Orion to learn to control his anger and take lessons from the old gods so he can eventually lead the new gods.
In contrast to the infinity stones, Thanos could be looking for secrets to unlocking the source wall which he's told houses the anti-life equation. These components could be magical items which would work like Fate's helmet and items held by Jason blood etc.
Cracking the source wall could lead to multiverse stuff like Kang does currently by using either the Anti-Monitor or Perpetua in future projects.
🙏🏾 This was a great video, super unique and I'd love to see a story with these characters.
You could have used the totem’s of Zambezi as the ingenuity stones
I meant infinity stones
I think instead of a justice film it should be justice society
Phases 1 - 3 would be the Justice Society, and Phases 4 - 6 would be the Justice League.
Who should die in the forever people? If you're going 1 for 1, surely you gotta pick Mr miracle for his connection to Darkseid, it could be adapted to say 'most respected' or 'most valued' instead of 'loved'
Booster Gold as Captain American replacement would have been so good... missed oportunity but great video
I think The General or the shaven Shaggy Man (Wade Eiling of Project Cadmus) would work better as the Hulk replacement.
You could MAYBE use the Lasso of Truth as a counterpart to Mjolnir, even if it's never really had a "worthiness" gimmick before.
Part 2 please
Ted cord also dies in the injustice universe as well, damn he can’t catch a break
Do more like this , these are great
Bruh, c'mon, you could've replaced Swamp Thing with Damage for Hulk since both Hulk and ST are green monster-types created by science accident. Also either Steel or Booster Gold would have worked for sidekicks of Blue Beetle, one is armored black dude who has his own responsibility and the other one is a close friend of the hero who acts as "sidekick"
Etrigan the demon could have also worked for Hulk since they're both dudes who turn into big scary monsters.
For a hulk movie I’d say Etrigan the demon coz Jason blood for Bruce banner and etrigan for hulk then lost credit scene would be a bar in Manchester showing Constantine walking through the doors
I feel like Swamp-Thing could work too
@@gechoman44iwantahippo yeah u have a point but we’ve seen swamp thing in live action already and not etrigan
You should do Phase 4
I think you need explain this as most of the heavy hitters sold to an outside company before getting them back so I would be intrigued with what would be for Fox and Sony using some of the heavy hitters
For Fox in this scenario something to equivalent to XMEN and F4... maybe Superman and storyline/villains for XMEN while Batman and family with villains for F4
Sony gets The Flash
17:30
Since Hank Pym (the original Ant-Man) is married to Janet van Dyne (the original Wasp), and Hope is their daughter, Ray Palmer (the original Atom) and Karen Beecher (the original Bumblebee) would have a daughter who becomes romantically involved with Ryan.
Wait but who was the Ultron counterpart? I don't think you mentioned that.
Please will can work do date? Mcu dc number details
Love this idea
I think the counterpart to Ultron would be Amazo
If DC actually knew what they were doing from the start.
Throw your lesser known characters as the leaders of your cinematic universe even when you have the movie rights of your biggest heavy hitters isn't good thinking.
Well it’s better then just another Batman or Superman movie. Give a lesser story first as a character that not many people know instead of the same story you’ve heard way too many times.
all batman and ironman similarities
rich
parents dead
no powers
great tech
both smart
both have sidekicks
butlers have butlers
both playboys
both have multiple suits
9 similarities
Isn’t Guardian DC’s answer to Marvel’s Captain America? He even has the shield.
This was impressive dude I know it took sometime to put together 👍🏽
I would replace the female shazam with Hal Jordan considering the similarities between him and Captain Marvel in the MCU
I would replace ms marvel with a allegra show that follows allegra from the flash
@@christinaanderson6944 allegra is not a famous character I think. One of the person who created that character was Eric Wallace, and that's why she is in the flash, because eric wallace is the showrunner. And the flash show wouldn't exist, so please just turn on your brain. This is not the sonyverse.
@@herbox your right about allegra than i guess the ms marvel counterpart would be a Jessica cruz show
@@christinaanderson6944 btw "than" is used when you want to say "flash is faster than superman" or "I like reverse flash better than flash" and in your last comment there "then" should be used. Like if "thor 4 comes out then I will watch that".
Phase 4
Terra The Red Tornado Series
The New Captain Steel Series
Pariah S1
Black Canary
Elseworlds S1
Karate Kid
The Other New Gods
Green Arrow Series
The Hymirayer Blue Beetle 3
Batman Series
Doctor Fate: Multiverse
Mayhem
Mr. Shazam! Series
Wonder Woman: Gods & Mortals
???? (Idk For I Am Groot)
Manhunter Series
Vixen 2 (Aquaman Appears Here)
Forever People: Holiday Special
Phase 5
Atom 3
Invasion Series
Forever People Vol.3
Deathstroke Series
Pariah S2
Shazam 2
Katana
Cyborg Series (I couldn't find anyone else)
Zatana Series
Nightwing Series
Captain Steel 4
Suicide Squad
Phase 6
Justice Society Of America
Justice League: Crisis On Infinite Earths Part1
Justice League: Crisis On Infinite Earths Part2
This Took A Long Time
Best fit characters:
Iron Man - Human Bomb
Captain America - The Shield
Spider Man - Tarantula
Hulk - Solomon Grundy
"Used the second Ant Man instead of Hank Pym for some reason" the reason is that they were never quite able to bring Hank Pym back from the alcoholic wife beater stain that they put on him and so they wanted to make sure that he wasn't who they hung the franchise on.
2 ideas:
1. What if DC sold their movie rights to the JLA and Teen Titans like Marvel had to sell theirs.
2. A Batman-specific Cinematic Universe (like Sony’s Spider-Man universe, but bigger and better)
Sony's batman universe be like, Ventriloquist movie, joker's goon #2 movie, baby doll movie,
We already have a Batman specific universe
Matt revee’s robert Patterson Batman universe
@Jiyagi X Flows no, la whole cinematic universe just about Batman stuff, not just a trilogy of movies and a few shows. Do like, a films for Batman, Nightwing, Deadshot, Deathstroke, Mr. Freeze, Batgirl, Clayface, and others. Maybe build up to an Outsiders film.
@@gechoman44iwantahippo I feel like they’re gonna do more than just 1 trilogy and a few shows, if fan reception is good I know they’ll do spin off movies because that’s where the money is
The Creeper
The Creeper 2 (i don't have in mind what subtitle would have)
Man-Bat
Deathstroke
Bat-Mite
Bane
DCEU replaced with Marvel characters:
Hyperion (Man of Steel)
Moon Knight vs Hyperion (Batman v Superman)
Thunderbolts (Suicide Squad)
Thor (Wonder Woman)
Avengers (Justice League)
Namor (Aquaman)
Miracle Man (Shazam)
A-Force (Harley Quinn and the Birds of Prey)
Thor 2 (Wonder Woman 1984)
The Thunderbolts (The Suicide Squad)
Punisher (Peacemaker)
Sentry??? (Black Adam)
Quicksilver (The Flash)
Namor 2 (Aquaman 2)
Miracle Man 2 (Shazam: Fury of the gods)
Spider-Man (Blue Beetle)
Thor 3 (Untitled Wonder Woman 3)
Isn't Hyperion a villain though?
@@blobbles5973 He is hero I just checked.
1:51 thank you, I was wondering if I was the only one who thought that...
How about you do "What if you have the MCU characters replace the ARROEVERSE characters" trust me you'll love the idea
I feel like you could’ve just built this with the characters based around their prominence to the Justice League, instead of power matching…
In Young Justice Atom and Bumblebee were connected.
I know young justice isn’t canon but in season 2 the atom and bumblebee were friends
There is actually a Thor in the DC universe, he's based on the Norse god and he's a bit of a prick but there is a Thor
Red rocket is the perfect counterpart of iron man
Shazam for Thor???
What happened to agent carter and agents of sheild and all the one shots and EVERYTHING SHSVSHHWBAJZ
Plz do this with DC Characters
My decisions.
Hulk - Superboy
Captain America - Guardian
Thor - Steel Superman
Iron Man - Blue Beetle
Spider-Man - Black Spider
Black Widow - Huntress
Scarlett Which - Tara
Black Panther - Red Lion
Ant Man - Atom Smasher
Cannot believe the Young Justice Superboy did not replace Hulk.
This is very interesting
Why did you focus solely on the heroes? The villains and side characters are important, too.
Aquaman VS Vixen let’s go!
Here’s an idea, what if the MCU was amlagamized like in Infinity Warp, not necessarily the same combos but fallowing a similar idea with the roster currently present in the MCU.
You could make a good argument for many different combos, going with IronHammer like they did in the comics would work well but so would IronSorcerer or Iron-Spider.
Since we don’t have GhostRider you could combine Thor with BlackPanther and then probably KillMonger with Hella.
Now we need the reverse
So, just like Marvel didn't have the rights for Spider-Man and the X-Men, in this version DC didn't have the rights for Batman, Superman and the Flash...