I could see crow and leaf leaving the clans once they reach 7 years old. Because they be rear warrior cat retirement. That would be their best chance to leave the clans once their responsibility is over and done.
I don’t technically count Jayfeather and Half Moon as a forbidden romance? Like, it is when you throw in Jayfeather, but it’s time travel as well as reincarnation; so as a result, if we completely forget all that and look at is as just *Jay’s Wing* and Half Moon, considering neither of them are medicine cats, it would work. But then Jayfeather arrives and the whole thing becomes confusing.
Right, something that bothers me with this is how she knew Jay's Wing before and remembered him after, but he seemed to have disappeared when Jayfeather stopped the time travel or whatever it was. Makes me feel real bad for Half Moon but Idk how to get into all that confusion to fix it for her anyway rip
Ah yes. Forbidden love. Like SpottedLeaf and the Giant Flaming Meteor that gave her the prophesy: “Fire alone will save our clan.” A cookie to whoever gets the reference. ;)
Does anyone remember Ryewhisker and Cloudberry from Code of the Clans? I think they were really cute but sadly we didn't see so much of them. I also liked Moth Flight and Micah, but I don't think that is really forbidden.
Ahornschwinge WaCa du musst dich doch erinnern, dass Mottenflugs Vision extrem schlecht geschrieben war? (Ich meine die Deutsche Übersetzung). Außerdem finde ich es sehr unrealistisch das Mottenflug dann ihren Jungen hergibt ohne wirklich sie zu vermissen. Noch dazu hat es mich als WaCa Fan sehr frustriert das in der Übersetzung Wörter wie "Babysitten" virkommen. Hallo ???!!! Das sind Wörter die nicht in ein Warrior Cats Buch gehören. Da könnte man gleich Winter statt Blattleere usw. schreiben
Aber von der Geschichte (Plot) wäre das ja ein sehr Interessanter Abschnitt der Entstehung der Clans. Tja... Die Übersetzter haben es diesmal nicht so gut geschafft
@@hufra4703 Hallo, ein Deutscher xD Ich muss zugeben, das ich damit wirklich nicht gerechnet hab. Aber ja, die deutsche Version war wirklich beschissen. Allein die Tatsache, das Ginsterpelz die Hälfte des Buches lang Ginsterstern genannt wurde.. Deshalb lese ich die Bücher jetzt auch auf Englisch. Trotzdem ist Mottenflugs Vision noch eines meiner Lieblingsbücher, und Mottenflug X Micah eines meiner Lieblingspärchen.
The fact that dovewing actually did something about her relationship when she found out she was having kits is fairly significant in my opinion. If you think about all the other forbidden romances involving kits, Bluestar and Leafpool gave away their kits because their clan was more important to them, and it looked silverstream was just planning to raise her kits in riverclan and keep meeting graystripe secretly. When dovewing found out she was pregnant, she knew her kits wouldn't be accepted, so she left to find somewhere where she could raise them in peace, and when tigerheart convinced her to come back to the clans, she was willing to leave everything she'd ever known to keep her family together. The fact that she actually did something about her situation instead of agonizing about it for several books makes TigerDove the best forbidden pairing in my opinion. (LeafCrow is second because Leafpool almost went through with her plan, but didn't quite get there)
I was in a long distance relationship for 4 years. After many phonecalls, visits, and back and forth cross country moves, we have now been together for 9 years and are due to be married. We met on Facebook while RPing. Haha. Oh dear. ❤️
Here's what I get in symbolism: 1) Leafpool x Crowfeather I also thought of a couple drifting off due to career difference . Which does happen 2) Lionblaze x Heathertail Childhood crushes that never pan out 3) Tigerheart x Dovewing Leaving a toxic relationship for a better one. Yes Bumblestripe and hers is emotionally toxic don't @ me on this. One sided is an emotionally draining experience
@@francisthompson3772 she was grieving to be fair stupidly grieving but still I understand the feeling Still better than being in a loveless deal though those suck
@@francisthompson3772 I used to hate him. UNTIL Tigerheart's shadow. Now I only mildy dislike him. Not the pairing, the character. Also I really hate the BumblexDove pairng because it is creepily similar to something happening right now to mine and my sister's friend.
Samantha Clark i'm sorry, but appledusk is a just cheater and just a jerk. seeing everyone he loved being killed by a power-hungry monster is horrible and he didn't deserve anything. if somebody's highschool boyfriend/girlfriend cheats on them, it doesn't mean everyone they love must die and so do they just because of some petty excuse
@@finch_026 I was specialy talkin about Mapleshade, in the book she is so stupid, naive and selfish it make me hate her.... I actualy love Appledusk, so yeah, he's a victime, like the 2 other cats, if you want to blame someone in this book it's Mapleshade and Oakstar for banning innocent kitty. Also ''Mapleshade's vengeance" a masterpiece ? He he he no
@@MissNoraTW Im glad too he go to Starclan, i love thinkin he take care of Mapleshade kits in Starclan. I dont think the kitty want to see they mother anymore lol, she is a monster
Ok maybe death is crossing the line appledusk said In front of his dead kits that they were a mistake maybe that sparked her being insane no wait that was oak star and raven wing ugh my favorite novella is so confusing
He’s making an example out of them to show what happens to those who defy him, and since they’re technically against the rules he can use that to vaguely justify it, while also getting to live out his own bigoted grudges, is my interpretation
Excuse me, but one of my friends has been tracing Missy Dakota's art, drawing people's OCs with it, and giving it away as gifts. She denies that she's doing this, but it is VERY obviously Missy Dakota's lineart.
They were asked by MAP hoster to redo the part in which they traced my art and as of now they didn't post anything, so I'm hoping they won't do that again
@@MissDako Hi! Just asking, what software do you use to make the drawings? I want to make good pictures. I try on paper, and its, not as bright as I hoped.
Tbh, I didn’t get enough of Silverstream, to actually be sad when she died, she felt like she was there to have something going on for 2 books for filler, but when she died, I was kinda just like “ehhh” cause i had only read about her like 5 times unless it was just Fireheart getting pissed that Graystripe ran off with her again
That would’ve been a n interesting plot, and I would’ve wanted to see how Leafpool and Crowfeather would’ve run away together to become loners and how they would’ve lived. I would’ve loved to see them have their own mangas detailing their experiences after running away from everything (and everyone) that they have ever known just to be together. I think that would’ve made for a satisfying ending to their story. “BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BADGERS”, you ask. “I DONT CARE ABOUT THE BADGERS”, I reply back “SOOTFUR WAS A USELESS DEATH AND SORRELTAIL SHOULDVE EVACUATED SOONER TK HAVE HER KITS”, I continue explaining “BUT THAT’S NOT-“, you begin to object “SHUT UP, LET ME DREAM”, I scream back, stuck in my own warrior cats headcanon fandom Edit: might low-key write a fanfic detailing what would’ve happened to them. Might post it to WattPad or something like that if anybody wants me to.
Cats from different Clans producing kittens helps the gene pool stay fresh. I also never understood why the Clans separated at the end of their journey from their old territory. All the Clans uniting I think would have been great. Or at least split into two instead of four. I always had a bit of a hard time keeping up with all four Clans.
To be honest, the Lionblaze and Heathertail relationship is very forgettable in my opinion. After Dark River, I almost completely forgot about Lion x Heather until a couple books later when the Erin's shove it down our throats. That's why it's my least favorite forbidden romance. In Bluestar's Prophecy, Bluefur is expecting Oakheart's kits after they spent just one night together. Which means that Oakheart was sly and deliberately screwed over her chances of being deputy. So, yeah, I'm not that trusting of Oakheart. Jayfeather and Half Moon was just lazily written. Raggedstar was a total jerk to Yellowfang. Some Mothpool shippers completely demonitize Crowfeather(not ALL Mothpool fans do this, just some, and I'm not pointing fingers or have anything against gay ships) Leafpool and Crowfeather just ruined Crowfeather until his Super Edition. Yeah, that's what I have to say about the Canon forbidden romances Edit: Tigerheart also took advantage of Dovewing's over trust
I fail to see how Oakheart deliberately ruined her chances of becoming deputy,it's not like he forced her to stay with him that night,I don't know much about Tigerheart and Dovewing because I haven't gotten to read those books yet,and I also liked Crow x Leaf before the super edition,I haven't read Yellowfangs secret so I cant say much about that,and I also haven't gotten to the part with Jay x Half
U wanna know what a real nice guy looks like? Thrushpelt, unlike he was in love with blue star then when he found out blue star had kits with another cat that was probably from another clan what did he do? Instead of telling or being mean he did the opposite, he helped pretend to be the father and care for the kits, and he never even asked who the father was, now that’s a good cat
Wow I’m so early none of the other comments have any likes 😮 P.s the only forbidden romance I liked was Graystripe x Silverstream because it was the very first one so it was exciting and new! Also because I love Stormfur and Feathertail ❤️
I actually was in a relationship with a “bad boy”. He hung out with that group and acted different around his friends, but not in a bad way. All my friends, from band to my inner circle, they all told me to break up with him. I refused each time and it wasn’t until a few weeks after the pestering reached its peak that I had a small party and invited a few people, including him. Away from his friends, they got to see him as the sweet guy I know and love. So yeah, there isn’t a distinct line between bad and good boys, it is perspective
I really enjoy tigerxdove after reading his super edition. Like I fell in love with both of the characters. And Leafpools is such a relatable character imo. She shows that not everyone is perfect and everyone has certain needs. Leafpools is great
8:20 "Why do good girls like bad guys type of story" "The warriors fandom has had this question for a long time" AND IM HERE LIKE "WHY DO GOOD GIRLS LIKE BAAD GUYSS? IVE HAD THIS QUESTION FOR A LONG LONG TIME"
I'm actually very happy Dovewing and Tigerheart got together. On one hand, she would have been just fine on her own, but I love that they're one of the only forbidden romances to actually work out in the end. All others either ended in death or a break up and depressed unwanted children separated from one or both parents. Plus I never really saw Tigerheart as a bad dude? It's been a while since I read OotS, but I could've sworn he didn't intentionally use Dovewing to get the herbs? I thought she just happened to mention them at a time when Shadowclan was sick and dying and he had to make the choice of letting his clan die, or risk it and get the herbs to save them all. As for the Dark Forest training, I thought he and one of the Erin's mentioned he was only spying? Either way he flipped sides at the end and fought to protect the clans. I dunno. He just never came off as a jerk to me. (Ignoring the fact that he was a jerk to the other clans in the final book of AVoS. But he was still really sweet to Dovewing and their kits, and did bring up valid points about the unfairness of Shadowclan being the only one's to give up territory, so I'll defend him there.)
I’d like to point out that with Leafpool and Crowfeather when Leafpool went back to thunderclan it was in ruins after the badger attack. And now with thunderclan having no medicine cat with the death of Cinderpelt. Leafpool wanted to stay with Crowfeather, but knew she couldn’t leave her home in the state that it was in. And Crowfeather knew that too. So in a sense it wasn’t Leafpool choosing her clan over love but her needing to be there as a medicine cat for her clan and her home and Crowfeather knowing that too and making the sacrifice to break up their relationship for the good of Leafpool knowing that she was meant to be there instead of with him. It’s really bittersweet, and just shows how much thought the Erin’s put into this. At least that’s how I thought of their love story.
I just read Crookedstar's promise and already forgot about the RiverClan and WindClan thing... oh waaaaait you're talking about the thing that happened with what's her name and what's his name?? And their kits are Willowbreeze... and umm, Graypool was it? Yeah! That's what you're talking about! XD
Crowfeather/Leafpool (Crowpool?) shipper here, have been since I first read TNP: Twilight in 2007. Forever salty that not only were Crowfeather and Leafpool forced to return to their Clans, Leafpool was manipulated by StarClan into thinking she needed to run away with Crowfeather in the first place. (Spottedleaf told her to follow her heart, didn't clarify that she was talking about staying in ThunderClan, Feathertail pushed Crowfeather and Leafpool together, and Leafpool thought she had their permission to run away with her WindClan mate.) Not to mention during her relationship with Crowfeather, StarClan left her to the Dark Forest and refused to connect with her at the Moonpool (while still giving the other medicine cats the vision about the badger attack)... and it wasn't until after Leafpool had already left the Clans that StarClan finally sent her the badger attack vision. Not to mention StarClan flat-out blamed Leafpool for getting pregnant by Crowfeather, lied to Squirrelflight so Squirrel would adopt her sister's kits, and then had the gall to strip Leafpool of her medicine cat status & forbid her from walking in dreams with them throughout OOTS after the truth about her kits came out (when YELLOWFANG led Jayfeather to the truth about his parentage and flat-out told him StarClan was wrong to keep their true heritage from them). Then Squirrelflight's Hope happened and StarClan really had the audacity to put Leafpool on trial for falling in love with Crowfeather, having his kits, and Squirreflight adopting her kits as her own... when Leafpool and Squirrelflight at that point were following StarClan's orders. The Erins did my girls Leafpool and Squirrelflight and my boys Crowfeather and Brambleclaw so very dirty, and I am forever annoyed about it. They all deserved so much better.
All young cats in current thunderclan are distantly related, they need forbidden relationships. Even then, Dovewing and Tigerheart are distantly related through golden flower and lionheart.
Tbh I like crowfeather and nightcloud NOT AS A SHIP but I think they like represent you can have friends! Something’s can be platonic and I just love that because they are like happily divorced!
Percy Jackson: Camp half blood Harry Potter: The main character is half blood Warriors: Well… There is the entire Tigerstar ordeal. Any other book series that have something to do with the purity of genetics?
The Erin’s need to do something as interesting as Jayfeather x Stick, it was so emotional and amazing love story! It was so sad when they broke up, I cried so much, the Erin’s *REALLY* need to do something as good as THAT story
Mothpool’s getting boring and now I don’t like it But go ahead and ship whatever you want as long as you don’t shove it down my throat and threaten to kill people because of it
It’s alright to me. I was more annoyed that the love triangle was a thing if anything. I was just sitting there during all of OotS thinking, “I know it’s against the rules, but can she just end up with Tigerheart? Please? Because Bumblestripe is not cutting for me.”
Bumblestripe was a creep. He… would not be a good mate. Basically, forcing kits is a thing I see Bumble doing, and then being majorly controlling and continuing to manipulate Dovewing’s loved ones as you explained in that one video in order to keep her in line and away from the mate she wishes she could have.
4:59 Am I the only one that noticed Leafpool was crying? 9:58 Why did you make Dovewing whip Tigerhreat in his face with her tail? It looks like she's rejecting him
Warrior cats texting Erin 1:lets do another forbidden love Erin 2:sure! We could add a twist Erin 3:ya, leaf texting Erin 1:great idea! *broken code, jayfeather and stick are texting on leaves*
In all honesty, my all time favorite forbidden romance is TigerheartxDovewing, and not just because they're the first one I read about (the first story arc I read was Omen of the Stars). It's more because I get a KovuxKiara vibe from them (which is pretty much the good girl and bad boy scenario as well).
Leafpools and Crowfeathers love is relatable for my older cousin, her boyfriend lives 6 hours away and only is able to see him a lil' bit a year but me my sis and brother see him to! So yeah, relatable. :3
eARLy sKrt also i love the forbidden love topic! its so interesting to see other people’s opinions. great video ✨ also, my fav forbidden romance is Graystripe and Silverstream! 💕
Fun fact heathertail and lionblaze are actually related. Crowfeather is onestar's nephew and heathertail is onestar's daughter. So when we look at it, heathertail is and lionblaze are cousins once removed, same with her and breezepelt. This is why she should have hooked up with harespring lol. Obviously this is really that big of a deal or something that needs to be brought up, I just thought it was interesting. (Also I really liked heathertail and get and lionpaw were super cute)
Teacher: now what does the cow say? Me: moo Teacher: good, now what does the dog say? Me: bark Teacher: that’s great! Now what does the cat say? Me: Fire alone can save our clan
Graystripe and Silverstream’s affair was just STUPID. Graystripe knew it was against the warrior-code, and Fireheart knew that it was wrong. But Graystripe STILL WENT TO SEE SILVERSTREAM!!!!
Beth McFarland AND I HATE HOW HE NEVER MENTORED BRACKENPAW! He had me so pissed when brackenfur was held back and Fireheart had to mentor him, I felt so bad :(
Love can drive anyone to do something like this. It's hard to pull away. Sure they broke the code but can it be helped? Pretty much all the clans broke the code. from crossing borders to falling in love with the wrong cat. Some rules are just meant to be broken.
In my opinion cat relationship between other clans is okay. It doesn't matter if he or she is kittypet, half-clan or whatever. Because there all cats one and same. Just with different cultures and teachings. But when the drama, secrets and warrior code is into the picture and out in the open for all the clans to see. It will cause others clan warriors to treat half-clan cats differently and with a lack of respect.
That scene in crookedstars promise when hailstar almost drowns the kits father in front of them by holding his head underwater and watching the air bubbles come up
Did you know that Tigerheart and Dovewing are already technically related. This is such a good video! My favorite forbidden romance is Graystripe and Silverstream. Can you do a video about Ravenpaw life. Or another OC game? Stay awesome!
Hold on didnt hawkfrost and tigerclawstar manipulate lionpaw to not see heatherpaw anymore? Also I like to think tigerheartstar has green eyes like tawnypelt
Honestly Crow x Leaf kinda left us all disappointed. Leafpool was looked down upon for simply having feelings, if she hadn’t been a med cat, (and Crowfeather wasn’t of Windclan) it would have been fine. But simply because she was a med cat it was a sin to have feelings.... We were supposed to be happy that she chose her clan over him, but we all wanted her to be happy, not loyal. What’s the point of staying true to her clan if she wasn’t happy? Just my thoughts.
okay so i laughed so hard when darkclan formed bc when i was reading the third arc when i got to dark river my school library didnt have it. so i missed out on darkclan 😂
Wow Missy Dakota’s Heathertail drawing is super pretty. Anyway, I feel like forbidden love is a hit-or-miss situation. Sometimes it is completely fine and actually works out for the best. It also sometimes teaches the characters about being focused and thinking about life choices. (LeafpoolxCrowfeather LionpawxHeatherpaw.) It also makes some characters seem like actual idiots because there were perfectly good cats back in the Clan they LIVE IN.(DovexTiger BluexOak) And I’m not gonna even try to defend Alderheart’s. I mean it’s dumb, really dumb. So there is my opinion on forbidden love, my message for the Erins about this is to rethink your stories before you publish the books. Sorry this is a bit lengthy but I just wanted to write this out. Akira! So close to 30k!!
hit or miss, I guess they never miss huh? you got a boyfriend I bet he doesn't kiss you. mwah. he gonna find another girl and he won't miss yeah. he gonna skrrrtt and hit the dab like wiz Khalifa
My heart goes out to all the Leafpools and Crowfeathers out there! If you truly love each other you will be able to conquer all the odds
Leaf feather or Crow pool? for ship names
Missy Dakota i still ship them
40th like on your comment
I could see crow and leaf leaving the clans once they reach 7 years old. Because they be rear warrior cat retirement. That would be their best chance to leave the clans once their responsibility is over and done.
P.S I love your drawing of warrior cats on Akira channel❤~❤
I don’t technically count Jayfeather and Half Moon as a forbidden romance? Like, it is when you throw in Jayfeather, but it’s time travel as well as reincarnation; so as a result, if we completely forget all that and look at is as just *Jay’s Wing* and Half Moon, considering neither of them are medicine cats, it would work. But then Jayfeather arrives and the whole thing becomes confusing.
Right, something that bothers me with this is how she knew Jay's Wing before and remembered him after, but he seemed to have disappeared when Jayfeather stopped the time travel or whatever it was. Makes me feel real bad for Half Moon but Idk how to get into all that confusion to fix it for her anyway rip
But Half Moon becomes the Stoneteller and they don't have mates, I think.
Trinket I was more talking about before she was made Stoneteller, but yes, you’re right. Stonetellers aren’t allowed to have mates.
Ah yes. Forbidden love. Like SpottedLeaf and the Giant Flaming Meteor that gave her the prophesy: “Fire alone will save our clan.”
A cookie to whoever gets the reference. ;)
*in case you needed the answer it’s Into The Wild Animated by Bok Bok Choy*
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When I saw blue star and Oakheart and grey stripe and Silverstream I thought of bliximi’s rap battle lol
Me too
Yup same
Lmao same
I bet everybody did 😂
Same xdd
Does anyone remember Ryewhisker and Cloudberry from Code of the Clans?
I think they were really cute but sadly we didn't see so much of them.
I also liked Moth Flight and Micah, but I don't think that is really forbidden.
I'd love to know more about them since they're the reason why the first rule of the warrior code were existed.
Yes i like Ryewhisker & Cloudberrys story in code of the clans
Ahornschwinge WaCa du musst dich doch erinnern, dass Mottenflugs Vision extrem schlecht geschrieben war? (Ich meine die Deutsche Übersetzung). Außerdem finde ich es sehr unrealistisch das Mottenflug dann ihren Jungen hergibt ohne wirklich sie zu vermissen. Noch dazu hat es mich als WaCa Fan sehr frustriert das in der Übersetzung Wörter wie "Babysitten" virkommen. Hallo ???!!! Das sind Wörter die nicht in ein Warrior Cats Buch gehören. Da könnte man gleich Winter statt Blattleere usw. schreiben
Aber von der Geschichte (Plot) wäre das ja ein sehr Interessanter Abschnitt der Entstehung der Clans.
Tja... Die Übersetzter haben es diesmal nicht so gut geschafft
@@hufra4703 Hallo, ein Deutscher xD
Ich muss zugeben, das ich damit wirklich nicht gerechnet hab.
Aber ja, die deutsche Version war wirklich beschissen.
Allein die Tatsache, das Ginsterpelz die Hälfte des Buches lang Ginsterstern genannt wurde..
Deshalb lese ich die Bücher jetzt auch auf Englisch.
Trotzdem ist Mottenflugs Vision noch eines meiner Lieblingsbücher, und Mottenflug X Micah eines meiner Lieblingspärchen.
I think the heatherpawxlionpaw was just like one of those 4th grade couples who think there old enough to date
Lmao I thought so too
100% correct.
Source: My class this year (I’m in 4th grade)
TestingGameStudio lol ya I’m in 5th now I still agree
What even are grades?
@@olly_lmao grades like 3rd 4th 5th grade
The fact that dovewing actually did something about her relationship when she found out she was having kits is fairly significant in my opinion.
If you think about all the other forbidden romances involving kits, Bluestar and Leafpool gave away their kits because their clan was more important to them, and it looked silverstream was just planning to raise her kits in riverclan and keep meeting graystripe secretly. When dovewing found out she was pregnant, she knew her kits wouldn't be accepted, so she left to find somewhere where she could raise them in peace, and when tigerheart convinced her to come back to the clans, she was willing to leave everything she'd ever known to keep her family together.
The fact that she actually did something about her situation instead of agonizing about it for several books makes TigerDove the best forbidden pairing in my opinion. (LeafCrow is second because Leafpool almost went through with her plan, but didn't quite get there)
I think Silverstream was actually planning on trying to join ThunderClan. If I remember what happened in Leopardstar’s Honor correctly, that is.
@@nightflyer1.1
No, it was Leopardstar, who told her to " take yourself to ThunderClan" when she found out they were dating
I was in a long distance relationship for 4 years. After many phonecalls, visits, and back and forth cross country moves, we have now been together for 9 years and are due to be married. We met on Facebook while RPing. Haha. Oh dear. ❤️
Awe! Congrats!!!
Congrats
Awe that’s so sweet! Congratulations! ( even though I’m a year late )
I hope you are happily married now! 🤍
that's so sweet! congrats!
Blue star/fur and Oak heart: Clan is more important then love.
Silver stream and Gray stripe: Love is more important then Clan.
The dislikes are from Tigerstar.
Which one?
"This is getting out of hand.
Now there are two of them!"
WHICH TIGERSTAR!?!?!
THE OLD ONE OR THE NEW ONE?!!?
ALL THE BABY TIGERSTAR CLONESS!
Tigerclawstar or Tigerheartstar?
My favorite is leafpool and crowfeather
They could possibly leave the clans once their responsibility is over and done with. You know when they reach warrior cat retirement.
SAME
I hope it joking
SAME CROWPOOL *ALWAYS!!!*
Mine too
Here's what I get in symbolism:
1) Leafpool x Crowfeather
I also thought of a couple drifting off due to career difference . Which does happen
2) Lionblaze x Heathertail
Childhood crushes that never pan out
3) Tigerheart x Dovewing
Leaving a toxic relationship for a better one. Yes Bumblestripe and hers is emotionally toxic don't @ me on this. One sided is an emotionally draining experience
Not sure if Tiger is better. Still mad about how he supports his sister when she accused Jay of murder.
@@francisthompson3772 she was grieving to be fair stupidly grieving but still I understand the feeling
Still better than being in a loveless deal though those suck
@@francisthompson3772 I used to hate him. UNTIL Tigerheart's shadow. Now I only mildy dislike him. Not the pairing, the character. Also I really hate the BumblexDove pairng because it is creepily similar to something happening right now to mine and my sister's friend.
Finleap was a pretty big jerk too at one point but at least he realized his mistake and apologized
''That ridiculous Mapleshade stuff''
Thank you
It Is A Master Piece Lets Just Say (Through Gritted Teeth ) Appledusk Got What He Deserved
Samantha Clark i'm sorry, but appledusk is a just cheater and just a jerk.
seeing everyone he loved being killed by a power-hungry monster is horrible and he didn't deserve anything. if somebody's highschool boyfriend/girlfriend cheats on them, it doesn't mean everyone they love must die and so do they just because of some petty excuse
@@finch_026 I was specialy talkin about Mapleshade, in the book she is so stupid, naive and selfish it make me hate her....
I actualy love Appledusk, so yeah, he's a victime, like the 2 other cats, if you want to blame someone in this book it's Mapleshade and Oakstar for banning innocent kitty.
Also ''Mapleshade's vengeance" a masterpiece ? He he he no
@@MissNoraTW Im glad too he go to Starclan, i love thinkin he take care of Mapleshade kits in Starclan.
I dont think the kitty want to see they mother anymore lol, she is a monster
Ok maybe death is crossing the line appledusk said In front of his dead kits that they were a mistake maybe that sparked her being insane no wait that was oak star and raven wing ugh my favorite novella is so confusing
“Half clan cats should die!” says Tigerstar
*while trying to combine all the clans*
Because then they'd forever be one clan so it technically won't be half clan since they are now in the same clan.
He’s making an example out of them to show what happens to those who defy him, and since they’re technically against the rules he can use that to vaguely justify it, while also getting to live out his own bigoted grudges, is my interpretation
He's also a thunderclan cat in shadowclan so how does that make sense.
Leopardstar gives this plan two thumbs up, Stonefur doesn't
Excuse me, but one of my friends has been tracing Missy Dakota's art, drawing people's OCs with it, and giving it away as gifts. She denies that she's doing this, but it is VERY obviously Missy Dakota's lineart.
I know about inkiii pastel tracing my art and I've already confronted them, but if there's someone else please let me know!
They were asked by MAP hoster to redo the part in which they traced my art and as of now they didn't post anything, so I'm hoping they won't do that again
@@MissDako Hi! Just asking, what software do you use to make the drawings? I want to make good pictures. I try on paper, and its, not as bright as I hoped.
@@MissDako Hi I'm a big fan I ♡ ur art!
Tbh, I didn’t get enough of Silverstream, to actually be sad when she died, she felt like she was there to have something going on for 2 books for filler, but when she died, I was kinda just like “ehhh” cause i had only read about her like 5 times unless it was just Fireheart getting pissed that Graystripe ran off with her again
Yeah me too.
EmmaLovesDogs yeah, I’m just always confused when people say they cried a _stream_ 😂🧐
I cry a river every time I read it
I was honestly more traumatized about HOW she died instead of that she died. Cuz, geez that was a scene.
She was sort of just annoying :|
You've opened up my eyes
I now realize Heathertail has a personality
*cries and laughs*
kkaiden yes
Mhmmm
She got a personality after the 12th apprentice
Well she sorta lost it in Crowfeathers trial
Technically she had a personality when she was with lionpaw but it was more of a seductive one
I really really wish Crowfeather and Leafpool stayed together tbh.
briella Carle same,and maybe one of Sorretail's kits wanna be med cat and Brightheart teach them :D
That would’ve been a n interesting plot, and I would’ve wanted to see how Leafpool and Crowfeather would’ve run away together to become loners and how they would’ve lived. I would’ve loved to see them have their own mangas detailing their experiences after running away from everything (and everyone) that they have ever known just to be together. I think that would’ve made for a satisfying ending to their story.
“BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BADGERS”, you ask. “I DONT CARE ABOUT THE BADGERS”, I reply back “SOOTFUR WAS A USELESS DEATH AND SORRELTAIL SHOULDVE EVACUATED SOONER TK HAVE HER KITS”, I continue explaining “BUT THAT’S NOT-“, you begin to object “SHUT UP, LET ME DREAM”, I scream back, stuck in my own warrior cats headcanon fandom
Edit: might low-key write a fanfic detailing what would’ve happened to them. Might post it to WattPad or something like that if anybody wants me to.
Omg same
Same
@@kottonkandy0962 Now I really want to read that.
I love how TigerStar wanted to get rid of 'half-bloods' yet he had babies with Sasha.
Lmao- right!
Fr
9:56
"Hey Dovewing your tail is in my face"
"Get your face out of my tail"
"ok"
That was my fav part
Cats from different Clans producing kittens helps the gene pool stay fresh. I also never understood why the Clans separated at the end of their journey from their old territory. All the Clans uniting I think would have been great. Or at least split into two instead of four. I always had a bit of a hard time keeping up with all four Clans.
To be honest, the Lionblaze and Heathertail relationship is very forgettable in my opinion. After Dark River, I almost completely forgot about Lion x Heather until a couple books later when the Erin's shove it down our throats. That's why it's my least favorite forbidden romance. In Bluestar's Prophecy, Bluefur is expecting Oakheart's kits after they spent just one night together. Which means that Oakheart was sly and deliberately screwed over her chances of being deputy. So, yeah, I'm not that trusting of Oakheart. Jayfeather and Half Moon was just lazily written. Raggedstar was a total jerk to Yellowfang. Some Mothpool shippers completely demonitize Crowfeather(not ALL Mothpool fans do this, just some, and I'm not pointing fingers or have anything against gay ships) Leafpool and Crowfeather just ruined Crowfeather until his Super Edition.
Yeah, that's what I have to say about the Canon forbidden romances
Edit: Tigerheart also took advantage of Dovewing's over trust
I agree
I agreed with you, forbidden love ain't superior than the other kinds of love. It still can be able to resulted bad influences.
i completely agree
I fail to see how Oakheart deliberately ruined her chances of becoming deputy,it's not like he forced her to stay with him that night,I don't know much about Tigerheart and Dovewing because I haven't gotten to read those books yet,and I also liked Crow x Leaf before the super edition,I haven't read Yellowfangs secret so I cant say much about that,and I also haven't gotten to the part with Jay x Half
But I do like Lion x Heather got what it is
U wanna know what a real nice guy looks like? Thrushpelt, unlike he was in love with blue star then when he found out blue star had kits with another cat that was probably from another clan what did he do? Instead of telling or being mean he did the opposite, he helped pretend to be the father and care for the kits, and he never even asked who the father was, now that’s a good cat
Forbidden Love can be beautiful! Plus, without Leafpool and Crowfeather, THERE WOULD BE NO POWER OF THREE.
True
TRUEEEE
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Imao, You just reminded me of a window that popped out in a game and it said "Did you know? You are reading this text right now."
Miss Nora hehe
I wonder what heatherpaws and Lionblazes kits would look like if they stayed together...
Omg Heatherpaw's art is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Good! (Also mothpool for the win)
Mothpool is the best ^^
Wow I’m so early none of the other comments have any likes 😮
P.s the only forbidden romance I liked was Graystripe x Silverstream because it was the very first one so it was exciting and new! Also because I love Stormfur and Feathertail ❤️
Same!
Jinx 666 it wasn’t first actually bluestar was born way before gray stripe and oakheart and bluestar were first
@@venuschills No Mapleshade and Appledusk were first.
Cloudberry and Ryewhisker were first.
True dat. I cried when Silversteam died from kit birth.
9:57 Poor Tigerheart... her tail is smacking his face.
Nah, he deserves it.
I just stated laughing so loudly when that happened. My mom gave me a weird look
Lol Silverstream looks so derp
That's how she's supposed to look.
*d e r p*
*DeRp*
*D e R p*
*DERP*
I actually was in a relationship with a “bad boy”. He hung out with that group and acted different around his friends, but not in a bad way. All my friends, from band to my inner circle, they all told me to break up with him. I refused each time and it wasn’t until a few weeks after the pestering reached its peak that I had a small party and invited a few people, including him. Away from his friends, they got to see him as the sweet guy I know and love. So yeah, there isn’t a distinct line between bad and good boys, it is perspective
Forbidden love is kind of overused.. but I really don’t mind it!
Kawaii Jirachi Same. Only time it’s so far annoyed me was the ending of River of Fire. Seriously? Why did Cinderpelt need to be thrown in?
I’ve never related to something so much in my life
“Lionblaze and Heathertail are dating in their Roblox rp” is not the take I expected from this but I’m not complaining
9:59 Tigerheart is probably thinking: “GET YOUR TAIL OUTTA MY FACE, DOVEWING!!!”
Ivypool:*sees what happens at 9:59*
Ivepool:I have several questions
I really enjoy tigerxdove after reading his super edition. Like I fell in love with both of the characters. And Leafpools is such a relatable character imo. She shows that not everyone is perfect and everyone has certain needs. Leafpools is great
9:56
This is what was going thru my head...
Dovewing: imma floof u with mah tail
Tigerheart: hol up
Alderheart better stay away from Velvet.
*Me vibing in the back, wishing that Alderheart’s crush on Velvet had been more than that*
Yeah stop cheating on Needletail /j
8:20
"Why do good girls like bad guys type of story"
"The warriors fandom has had this question for a long time"
AND IM HERE LIKE
"WHY DO GOOD GIRLS LIKE BAAD GUYSS? IVE HAD THIS QUESTION FOR A LONG LONG TIME"
I'm actually very happy Dovewing and Tigerheart got together. On one hand, she would have been just fine on her own, but I love that they're one of the only forbidden romances to actually work out in the end. All others either ended in death or a break up and depressed unwanted children separated from one or both parents.
Plus I never really saw Tigerheart as a bad dude? It's been a while since I read OotS, but I could've sworn he didn't intentionally use Dovewing to get the herbs? I thought she just happened to mention them at a time when Shadowclan was sick and dying and he had to make the choice of letting his clan die, or risk it and get the herbs to save them all.
As for the Dark Forest training, I thought he and one of the Erin's mentioned he was only spying? Either way he flipped sides at the end and fought to protect the clans.
I dunno. He just never came off as a jerk to me. (Ignoring the fact that he was a jerk to the other clans in the final book of AVoS. But he was still really sweet to Dovewing and their kits, and did bring up valid points about the unfairness of Shadowclan being the only one's to give up territory, so I'll defend him there.)
I’d like to point out that with Leafpool and Crowfeather when Leafpool went back to thunderclan it was in ruins after the badger attack. And now with thunderclan having no medicine cat with the death of Cinderpelt. Leafpool wanted to stay with Crowfeather, but knew she couldn’t leave her home in the state that it was in. And Crowfeather knew that too. So in a sense it wasn’t Leafpool choosing her clan over love but her needing to be there as a medicine cat for her clan and her home and Crowfeather knowing that too and making the sacrifice to break up their relationship for the good of Leafpool knowing that she was meant to be there instead of with him. It’s really bittersweet, and just shows how much thought the Erin’s put into this. At least that’s how I thought of their love story.
I just read Crookedstar's promise and already forgot about the RiverClan and WindClan thing... oh waaaaait you're talking about the thing that happened with what's her name and what's his name?? And their kits are Willowbreeze... and umm, Graypool was it? Yeah! That's what you're talking about! XD
Crowfeather/Leafpool (Crowpool?) shipper here, have been since I first read TNP: Twilight in 2007. Forever salty that not only were Crowfeather and Leafpool forced to return to their Clans, Leafpool was manipulated by StarClan into thinking she needed to run away with Crowfeather in the first place. (Spottedleaf told her to follow her heart, didn't clarify that she was talking about staying in ThunderClan, Feathertail pushed Crowfeather and Leafpool together, and Leafpool thought she had their permission to run away with her WindClan mate.) Not to mention during her relationship with Crowfeather, StarClan left her to the Dark Forest and refused to connect with her at the Moonpool (while still giving the other medicine cats the vision about the badger attack)... and it wasn't until after Leafpool had already left the Clans that StarClan finally sent her the badger attack vision.
Not to mention StarClan flat-out blamed Leafpool for getting pregnant by Crowfeather, lied to Squirrelflight so Squirrel would adopt her sister's kits, and then had the gall to strip Leafpool of her medicine cat status & forbid her from walking in dreams with them throughout OOTS after the truth about her kits came out (when YELLOWFANG led Jayfeather to the truth about his parentage and flat-out told him StarClan was wrong to keep their true heritage from them). Then Squirrelflight's Hope happened and StarClan really had the audacity to put Leafpool on trial for falling in love with Crowfeather, having his kits, and Squirreflight adopting her kits as her own... when Leafpool and Squirrelflight at that point were following StarClan's orders.
The Erins did my girls Leafpool and Squirrelflight and my boys Crowfeather and Brambleclaw so very dirty, and I am forever annoyed about it. They all deserved so much better.
All young cats in current thunderclan are distantly related, they need forbidden relationships. Even then, Dovewing and Tigerheart are distantly related through golden flower and lionheart.
Oh yeah
your videos are always great to listen to when I'm writing my fan fictions :)
9:58 “bruh get your tail outta my face”😹
The only forbidden love that matters is mothpool. All the others can perish.
Tbh I like crowfeather and nightcloud NOT AS A SHIP but I think they like represent you can have friends! Something’s can be platonic and I just love that because they are like happily divorced!
I love LEAFxCROW SOOOOO MUCH! ITS BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSES
‘He’s just a cat who happens to be a more risky partner for Dovewing’
* shoves tail in Tigerheart’s face *
Percy Jackson: Camp half blood
Harry Potter: The main character is half blood
Warriors: Well… There is the entire Tigerstar ordeal.
Any other book series that have something to do with the purity of genetics?
Darkstalker and Whiteout from Wings of Fire
@@suchomimustenerensis I’ve never read that but thx for the edition cause it just adds to my point. (Also, I like your username 😅)
Is that actually the symbol for DarkClan? I so shipped Lion x Heather.
I made the symbol.
It’s really good.👍🏼
2:05 I remember that one windclan and Riverclan thing in Crookedstar’s promise 😢
(Reedfeather and Fallowtail)
Honestly, the only good forbidden love is...
LEAFPOOL x Mothwing
We all know dis
C’mon
The second issssss
Jayfeather x Stick
So emotional 😭
MEH FAV SHIPS.
mothpool is boring, to be honest.
The Erin’s need to do something as interesting as Jayfeather x Stick, it was so emotional and amazing love story! It was so sad when they broke up, I cried so much, the Erin’s *REALLY* need to do something as good as THAT story
Best ships in the series
Mothpool’s getting boring and now I don’t like it
But go ahead and ship whatever you want as long as you don’t shove it down my throat and threaten to kill people because of it
Tigerstar: ‘ Pureblood ‘ ‘ Halfblood ‘
Me: *we be competing with harry potter-?*
Am I the only one who likes Dove x Tiger?
Nope
EmptyDrawings I like it
It’s alright to me. I was more annoyed that the love triangle was a thing if anything. I was just sitting there during all of OotS thinking, “I know it’s against the rules, but can she just end up with Tigerheart? Please? Because Bumblestripe is not cutting for me.”
Nope! I adore them and their kits!
EmptyDrawings Sadly, no.
Time to make a MAP about bumblestripe and tigerheart with why do good girls like bad guys as the song.
[] Draws Bumble-stripe and Ash-fur with fedoras []
Bumblestripe was a creep. He… would not be a good mate. Basically, forcing kits is a thing I see Bumble doing, and then being majorly controlling and continuing to manipulate Dovewing’s loved ones as you explained in that one video in order to keep her in line and away from the mate she wishes she could have.
Why does this remind me of a Disney show-
“hi, i’m bright guardian akira and ur watching disney channel”
@@RykerAccardi 👌👁️w👁️✋
4:59 Am I the only one that noticed Leafpool was crying?
9:58 Why did you make Dovewing whip Tigerhreat in his face with her tail? It looks like she's rejecting him
Warrior cats texting
Erin 1:lets do another forbidden love
Erin 2:sure! We could add a twist
Erin 3:ya, leaf texting
Erin 1:great idea!
*broken code, jayfeather and stick are texting on leaves*
In all honesty, my all time favorite forbidden romance is TigerheartxDovewing, and not just because they're the first one I read about (the first story arc I read was Omen of the Stars). It's more because I get a KovuxKiara vibe from them (which is pretty much the good girl and bad boy scenario as well).
Wanna know what’s cute? The fact they’d break the code for their love
And usually when a cat falls in love with someone in their clan...it’s incest.
Incest doesn’t matter
@@simplywarriorsowo4243 it does tho
Leafpools and Crowfeathers love is relatable for my older cousin, her boyfriend lives 6 hours away and only is able to see him a lil' bit a year but me my sis and brother see him to! So yeah, relatable. :3
eARLy sKrt
also i love the forbidden love topic! its so interesting to see other people’s opinions. great video ✨
also, my fav forbidden romance is Graystripe and Silverstream! 💕
Fun fact heathertail and lionblaze are actually related. Crowfeather is onestar's nephew and heathertail is onestar's daughter. So when we look at it, heathertail is and lionblaze are cousins once removed, same with her and breezepelt. This is why she should have hooked up with harespring lol. Obviously this is really that big of a deal or something that needs to be brought up, I just thought it was interesting. (Also I really liked heathertail and get and lionpaw were super cute)
Teacher: now what does the cow say?
Me: moo
Teacher: good, now what does the dog say?
Me: bark
Teacher: that’s great! Now what does the cat say?
Me: Fire alone can save our clan
Teacher: *surprised Pikachu face*
Forbidden love **cough cough** *Gray Stripe* **cough cough**
Graystripe and Silverstream’s affair was just STUPID. Graystripe knew it was against the warrior-code, and Fireheart knew that it was wrong. But Graystripe STILL WENT TO SEE SILVERSTREAM!!!!
Because he loved her,I wouldn't stop seeing someone even if people disapproved of it,and I don't think you would either
megan allen except they had no real reason for loving her. They didn’t five really any of her traits and half that was mentioned was her beauty
Beth McFarland AND I HATE HOW HE NEVER MENTORED BRACKENPAW! He had me so pissed when brackenfur was held back and Fireheart had to mentor him, I felt so bad :(
Beth McFarland
You can’t get away from someone you love
What about BlueFur ( star ) and Oakheart?
Love can drive anyone to do something like this. It's hard to pull away. Sure they broke the code but can it be helped? Pretty much all the clans broke the code. from crossing borders to falling in love with the wrong cat. Some rules are just meant to be broken.
You made that video on my birthday and now the Drawing Warrior cats Literally will also be on my birthday! I hope my picture is chosen!
I LOVE forbidden relationships. Gray stripes relationship was the absolutely adorable, but I didn’t like the fighting.
If you think about it, all forbidden loves end up with having at least 3 kits, at least at most with some prophecy on at least 1 of them
What about Windflight?
In my opinion cat relationship between other clans is okay. It doesn't matter if he or she is kittypet, half-clan or whatever. Because there all cats one and same. Just with different cultures and teachings.
But when the drama, secrets and warrior code is into the picture and out in the open for all the clans to see. It will cause others clan warriors to treat half-clan cats differently and with a lack of respect.
without graystream crowpaw would probably not become crowfeather lol
How dare u speak to mah preciouse jayfeather and halfmoon ship like they garbage!
One day one day
because it is garbage
I honestly think it was rushed and lazily written (sorry)
Because it is
Jayfeather had more chemistry with Briarlight than Half Moon
We need to talk more about the forbidden romance of Beechfur and Gorsetail.
Akira: don’t interact with strangers and act like you know them.
Me: ok I’ll unsub from you
Akira: wait no no no
Anyone ever notice how most half clan kits come in groups of three MapleShade had three kit BlueStar had three LeafPool had three Dovewing had three
What about jayfeather x stick
Firestar X sandstorm. Stick X stick
Leafpool X crowfeather. Stick X twig(:O)
Jayfeather. X. Stick
Stick is a stick
Jayfeather is a cat
Your welcome :D
That isn’t a half-clan relationship though
No
It sucks
It’s weird
That scene in crookedstars promise when hailstar almost drowns the kits father in front of them by holding his head underwater and watching the air bubbles come up
Did you know that Tigerheart and Dovewing are already technically related.
This is such a good video!
My favorite forbidden romance is Graystripe and Silverstream.
Can you do a video about Ravenpaw life. Or another OC game? Stay awesome!
And Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw.
Everybody is literally related in some way
@@Rosekatz That is why they're going to have Velvet make a 100 babies with Alderheart XD
Hold on didnt hawkfrost and tigerclawstar manipulate lionpaw to not see heatherpaw anymore?
Also I like to think tigerheartstar has green eyes like tawnypelt
fallen leaves x tunnel
Naw bro Rock x tunnel is OTP
Can I just say, I LOVE THE THUMBNAIL!!!!❤️❤️❤️
I love Leafpool and Crowfeather as a ship... but I love Leafpool and Mothwing more! XD
6:28 Club Penguin? Is that you?
Also rip Missy Dakota's drawings XD
Where is Blue x Potato?
It's a thing trust me check the wiki
Stormstar Of Thunderclan Omg lol what I’m looking right know xD
Honestly Crow x Leaf kinda left us all disappointed.
Leafpool was looked down upon for simply having feelings, if she hadn’t been a med cat, (and Crowfeather wasn’t of Windclan) it would have been fine. But simply because she was a med cat it was a sin to have feelings.... We were supposed to be happy that she chose her clan over him, but we all wanted her to be happy, not loyal. What’s the point of staying true to her clan if she wasn’t happy?
Just my thoughts.
-No, we're not talking about the Jayfeather and Half moon garbage
OMG YESSS, FINNALY SOMEONE THAT HATES THAT SHIP
okay so i laughed so hard when darkclan formed bc when i was reading the third arc when i got to dark river my school library didnt have it. so i missed out on darkclan 😂
Finleap's and Twigbranch's relationship disgusts me.
Never liked it from the start.
What's bad about it? I havent read it. (Hmu with spoils lol)
I like the ship
ruuudddeeeeeeeeeeee 😂
"This is clearly a 'why do good girls like bad guys." "The warriors cats fandom has had this question for a real long time."
Aight Imma head out.
Tiger boi kinda fails at being a bad boi
Ye he becomes leader bye ripping someones two off
Kathleen O Gorman oh no
My favorite is crowfeather X leafpool or bluestar X oakstar, or sliverstream X graystripe but I ship leafpool and mothwing.
first yay also awesome vid today I put an alarm to watch this
I have never read warrior cats before but i know we have to turn in a library book soon so i will be able to get my hands on warrior cats
Wha? Jayfeather and Halfmoon are the best!
So a cat that Jayfeather knew for like an hour is the best?
I love Lionpaw and Heatherpaw I don’t know why. I’m glad you put them in there
Wow Missy Dakota’s Heathertail drawing is super pretty. Anyway, I feel like forbidden love is a hit-or-miss situation. Sometimes it is completely fine and actually works out for the best. It also sometimes teaches the characters about being focused and thinking about life choices. (LeafpoolxCrowfeather LionpawxHeatherpaw.) It also makes some characters seem like actual idiots because there were perfectly good cats back in the Clan they LIVE IN.(DovexTiger BluexOak) And I’m not gonna even try to defend Alderheart’s. I mean it’s dumb, really dumb. So there is my opinion on forbidden love, my message for the Erins about this is to rethink your stories before you publish the books. Sorry this is a bit lengthy but I just wanted to write this out. Akira! So close to 30k!!
hit or miss, I guess they never miss huh? you got a boyfriend I bet he doesn't kiss you. mwah. he gonna find another girl and he won't miss yeah. he gonna skrrrtt and hit the dab like wiz Khalifa
Saw that coming...😂
4:21
i love how he said hes constantly spinning them around because he is