People talk down about anything other than full frame cameras but crickets about a smart phone, something that I don't even consider calling a camera but something that has a camera function.
The answer to all of the ‘is this sensor good enough’ questions is in the legacy of photography made in the early days of digital and before. So many incredible, iconic landscape photographs have been captured on cameras that are well and truly trounced by modern micro four thirds cameras technically. How is it possible such photos exist in a world where everyone says sensor size and specifications are king? It’s just illogical. For those who obsess about every pixel, no camera will ever be good enough. Love the glacier image!
Pleased you liked the photo Russell. Totally agree about the sensor size argument… I think the same probably goes for camera technology in general. Obviously newer gear has a slight advantage but older cameras / lenses etc are still more than suitable for the job.
I not only have micro 4/3 camera systems but also full frame and APSC in both mirrorless and DSLR They all have a place in photography, as far as 4/3 goes, I have a Panasonic G9 and G95 and 4 Olympus camera body's, tw0 OND 1, A EM5 AND A EM1 Great travel cameras and they go in places where I would not take a large camera body. I tend to photograph people, pets and birds in places that require me going into creeks, rivers, the water along the beach, resort pools and hottubs.
I recently bought an OM-Systems OM5, with a couple of lenses, for travel photography, particularly whilst cycling or hiking and it has been a revelation! As well as the light weight for carrying, the images have great resolution, along with the video clips, but the hand held with IBIS is a complete game changer. I also have APSC and Full Frame cameras, but I think I have been converted now because it is so hard to differentiate the image quality. Same as you, I underestimated the format, but your photos also show jhte quality shining through - I particularly liked the harbour shot in Italy, even at 1/8th sec without IBIS, and the post processing recovery on your other shots.
Most of the newer cameras regardless of sensor format are 24mp. So, the issue can’t be megapixels. It really is just marketing, some manufacturers are better at it than others… 🤔
@@Superz3roThe argument for the (in theory) superiority of Full Frame, and larger sensors in general, isn't really about higher resolutions but about larger pixels for the same resolution (larger sensor + same number of pixels = larger pixels). And larger pixels should be able capture more light in the same amout of time, in theory reducing noise, especially in low light conditions. That said, I have heard the same people that value FF above everything else and would even cosider anything smaller, not even APS-C, say "If you don't have the money for FF just buy an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy, they take amazing pictures too", devices that have sensor smaller than a square centimeter. It's true that those phones can take beautiful pictures too, but they do so doing tons of post processing (at times bordering on CGI, like the fake moon of some phones) on the raw picture. A M4/3 sensor is massive conpared to smartphone ones and could give you just as good (if not better) results with just minimal post processing. Still, people seem to forget there is a world possibilities between 5x5mm smartphone sensors and Full Frame.
The way I see it a m4/3rd is Velar more than capable on trails and soft off-roading, FF is like a Defender for when you're rock climbing in the Outback...FF has penalties of size and weight just like off-road tyres make more noise coupled with less sound proofing and rougher ride in a Defender...Glacier shot and the monochrome were sweet shots, it's the guy behind the camera that's key just like the guys in drivers seat end-of-the-day...
Love the monochrome shot Jason. Great to see that mood instead of the chocolate box shot. Interesting to see a modern day stone circle, at least we will know why it was built, unless the planning meeting notes have been lost!
There's nowt wrong with micro 4/3 I have been using Olympus for nearly 10 years, try lugging a full frame up a mountain. How many folk print bigger than 20x30?
Totally agree. Funnily enough, my first every mirrorless camera was an Olympus EPL-1 … was a revelation after carrying a FF setup up a mountain (and multi day hikes). I hardly ever print larger than 20x30…
My favorite is the Panasonic Lumix GX8 coupled with 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 and the 45-200mm G Vario f4-5.6lenses. It is a great lightweight travel setup for me.
Ok. The images are 99.5% identical to my eye looking at a UA-cam video. That said, I will take a stab at your challenge. Keep in mind that I’ve not read anything about the difference in these camera/ processors ability to capture data. To me image 2 is the likely candidate for being full frame. I state this because I thought there was a very subtle enhancement of color in image 2. The stone has just a hint more texture and even the grass seems to have just a tiny bit more depth and texture. Barely perceptible, but I think I can see a tiny difference. Good lesson!
I think that’s the whole point of the argument. The differences are so small that you won’t really see them unless you are looking for them. The full frame image was number 1 btw!
@@JasonFriendPhotography Ha! That justifies my current interest in finally going m4/3 mirrorless. I preferred #2 (if a preference is justified with two identical images). Fun challenge! Oh, but I sure miss using my beloved Nikon SLR - it’s just too awkward using film when digital offers so much ease and creativity without the time and cost of developing film. I expect a contributing factor is the fact that I’ve intensely disliked the 2 DSLR cameras I’ve bought: a Fujifilm that had a shutter delay of at least a second and my current Canon Rebel T3i (mediocre image quality and not intuitive to use). Time to buy a new camera!
People talk down about anything other than full frame cameras but crickets about a smart phone, something that I don't even consider calling a camera but something that has a camera function.
The answer to all of the ‘is this sensor good enough’ questions is in the legacy of photography made in the early days of digital and before. So many incredible, iconic landscape photographs have been captured on cameras that are well and truly trounced by modern micro four thirds cameras technically. How is it possible such photos exist in a world where everyone says sensor size and specifications are king? It’s just illogical. For those who obsess about every pixel, no camera will ever be good enough. Love the glacier image!
Pleased you liked the photo Russell. Totally agree about the sensor size argument… I think the same probably goes for camera technology in general. Obviously newer gear has a slight advantage but older cameras / lenses etc are still more than suitable for the job.
I not only have micro 4/3 camera systems but also full frame and APSC in both mirrorless and DSLR
They all have a place in photography, as far as 4/3 goes, I have a Panasonic G9 and G95 and 4 Olympus camera body's, tw0 OND 1, A EM5 AND A EM1 Great travel cameras and they go in places where I would not take a large camera body. I tend to photograph people, pets and birds in places that require me going into creeks, rivers, the water along the beach, resort pools and hottubs.
2:29 that's a beautiful shot. Coffee table book worthy.
Thank you for the kind words!
Amazed by the quality of your pictures !
I recently bought an OM-Systems OM5, with a couple of lenses, for travel photography, particularly whilst cycling or hiking and it has been a revelation! As well as the light weight for carrying, the images have great resolution, along with the video clips, but the hand held with IBIS is a complete game changer. I also have APSC and Full Frame cameras, but I think I have been converted now because it is so hard to differentiate the image quality. Same as you, I underestimated the format, but your photos also show jhte quality shining through - I particularly liked the harbour shot in Italy, even at 1/8th sec without IBIS, and the post processing recovery on your other shots.
Most of the newer cameras regardless of sensor format are 24mp. So, the issue can’t be megapixels. It really is just marketing, some manufacturers are better at it than others…
🤔
Funnily enough Phil I’ve just purchased the om-5 and I’m looking forward to having the legendary OM IBIS… I think it could be the camera of my dreams!
@@Superz3roThe argument for the (in theory) superiority of Full Frame, and larger sensors in general, isn't really about higher resolutions but about larger pixels for the same resolution (larger sensor + same number of pixels = larger pixels).
And larger pixels should be able capture more light in the same amout of time, in theory reducing noise, especially in low light conditions.
That said, I have heard the same people that value FF above everything else and would even cosider anything smaller, not even APS-C, say "If you don't have the money for FF just buy an iPhone or Samsung Galaxy, they take amazing pictures too", devices that have sensor smaller than a square centimeter.
It's true that those phones can take beautiful pictures too, but they do so doing tons of post processing (at times bordering on CGI, like the fake moon of some phones) on the raw picture.
A M4/3 sensor is massive conpared to smartphone ones and could give you just as good (if not better) results with just minimal post processing. Still, people seem to forget there is a world possibilities between 5x5mm smartphone sensors and Full Frame.
The way I see it a m4/3rd is Velar more than capable on trails and soft off-roading, FF is like a Defender for when you're rock climbing in the Outback...FF has penalties of size and weight just like off-road tyres make more noise coupled with less sound proofing and rougher ride in a Defender...Glacier shot and the monochrome were sweet shots, it's the guy behind the camera that's key just like the guys in drivers seat end-of-the-day...
Love the monochrome shot Jason. Great to see that mood instead of the chocolate box shot. Interesting to see a modern day stone circle, at least we will know why it was built, unless the planning meeting notes have been lost!
Cheers Dave. I do love that little camera! The stone circle is definitely in a nice location and quite photogenic
There's nowt wrong with micro 4/3 I have been using Olympus for nearly 10 years, try lugging a full frame up a mountain. How many folk print bigger than 20x30?
Totally agree. Funnily enough, my first every mirrorless camera was an Olympus EPL-1 … was a revelation after carrying a FF setup up a mountain (and multi day hikes). I hardly ever print larger than 20x30…
My favorite is the Panasonic Lumix GX8 coupled with 12-60mm f3.5-5.6 and the 45-200mm G Vario f4-5.6lenses. It is a great lightweight travel setup for me.
I’ve been tempted by the gx8 on more than one occasion. It’s looks a wonderful camera - and the size looks perfect (the gx9 seems almost too small)
Preffered shot 1
what lens did you used on the first five shots with your g100?
Hi Brian. It would have been the kit lens (12-32) as that was the only lens I owned then. Amazing lens considering the size, weight and (low) cost
Ok. The images are 99.5% identical to my eye looking at a UA-cam video. That said, I will take a stab at your challenge. Keep in mind that I’ve not read anything about the difference in these camera/ processors ability to capture data. To me image 2 is the likely candidate for being full frame. I state this because I thought there was a very subtle enhancement of color in image 2. The stone has just a hint more texture and even the grass seems to have just a tiny bit more depth and texture. Barely perceptible, but I think I can see a tiny difference. Good lesson!
I think that’s the whole point of the argument. The differences are so small that you won’t really see them unless you are looking for them. The full frame image was number 1 btw!
@@JasonFriendPhotography Ha! That justifies my current interest in finally going m4/3 mirrorless. I preferred #2 (if a preference is justified with two identical images). Fun challenge! Oh, but I sure miss using my beloved Nikon SLR - it’s just too awkward using film when digital offers so much ease and creativity without the time and cost of developing film. I expect a contributing factor is the fact that I’ve intensely disliked the 2 DSLR cameras I’ve bought: a Fujifilm that had a shutter delay of at least a second and my current Canon Rebel T3i (mediocre image quality and not intuitive to use). Time to buy a new camera!