I have had a blast with the build and if you want to check out the guide, the link is in the description with all the gear I have, as well as the gear I used in early maps, late maps, and finally after the Chaos Inoculation Swap. I hope all of you are having success with your builds! Thanks for watching!!
Hey, been following your build as I had something similar going on at the time, except with evasion, vine arrow on weapon swap and QOTF. Happy to see the progress. About chaos damage, you're right that it doesn't scale the poison damage, but it does scale the damage of the hit that applies poison i.e. Decompose. It probably isn't supposed to based on the wording of the skill, but there's currently a lot in EA that isn't supposed to work that does. Something to look into if you're interested.
@@ashWa26535chaos damage works because of the wording. “Poison enemies as though dealing x damage”. What it means is that it calculates as if it hits for x damage so any modifiers to the hit damage should apply, but it wouldnt proc any on hit effect since it doesnt hit.
honestly this makes me want a target dummy more than anything right now. The poison tooltips are really bad, and non-existent for decompose. Its understandable since its based on a corpse life, but if we can estimate evasion, we should be able to estimate corpse skills in a similar way. Thanks for the input! This is really hard to test or confirm
@@JoespressoGaming you can use a low level decompose and low level brute and test it against an zone boss. It is very easy to confirm. I have done quite extensive testing on Decompose to find every single ways to scale its damage. Currently my PF has about 5M DPS on QotF version. 1 set of decompose was enough for me kill Xesht t4 under 10s.
great guide, and build idea. thank you! what do you think about clerics? ive seen people build with full cleric setup for more clouds and less time of minion recovery. it seems smoother for mapping but i belive they dont have enough hp to be able to drop down bosses.
Not sure on bosses, but they will be better for consistent cloud creation. I tried them, but didn't like them. I felt that it was better to have a few minions, then rely on monster corpses for more. That said, i encourage you to try it and see what you think. I know some prefer clerics, so even if the damage is lower, it might be more to your taste
Wrong, a guide is meant to GUIDE you to the right decision, therefore the definition. A wrong build/ build guide will mislead people into thinking they do well, when they don't, and will probably make them quit. If you or any other content creator put out a guide that turns out to be wrong, you'll be called out for it and most probably you'll end up being called a game tourist.
By definition a guide is meant to influence and inform. I didnt say it does not need to be correct, but that it does not make decisions for you. If you cannot take a guide and make it fit your own playstyle, then that is a bigger issue with guides. I could just post the build and say "do everything like i do" and never explain the mechanics, but then what good is it. Instead I do my best to explain mechanics and the reason for my decisions, because in PoE there are nearly infinite ways to do everything. I would much rather give someone the resources they need to make their own variation than have a person carbon copy what I do.
Its always amusing to see people downplay ingenuity as not needed, sure its not but its far less effective without it. Unless the gameplay showcase also excludes them. I do agree that + chaos damage on the tree has very minimal to no impact, other build guides suggest to take most of the the nodes and I cannot tell the difference with or without it.
Yeah, unfortunately it happens a lot. I did several videos of this build without ingenuity, and the only power possible from rings in increase chaos damage. Fortunately anyone who makes a claim about ingenuity will also have their rings on display, so you can see clearly how much power is in the item
@Pandemonium088 it is, but ingenuity has no base resistance and the amount of resistance you can get on a rare belt is significant. I showed the belt I was using before, it was basically all resistances.
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I have had a blast with the build and if you want to check out the guide, the link is in the description with all the gear I have, as well as the gear I used in early maps, late maps, and finally after the Chaos Inoculation Swap. I hope all of you are having success with your builds! Thanks for watching!!
Hey, been following your build as I had something similar going on at the time, except with evasion, vine arrow on weapon swap and QOTF. Happy to see the progress.
About chaos damage, you're right that it doesn't scale the poison damage, but it does scale the damage of the hit that applies poison i.e. Decompose. It probably isn't supposed to based on the wording of the skill, but there's currently a lot in EA that isn't supposed to work that does. Something to look into if you're interested.
@@ashWa26535chaos damage works because of the wording. “Poison enemies as though dealing x damage”. What it means is that it calculates as if it hits for x damage so any modifiers to the hit damage should apply, but it wouldnt proc any on hit effect since it doesnt hit.
honestly this makes me want a target dummy more than anything right now. The poison tooltips are really bad, and non-existent for decompose. Its understandable since its based on a corpse life, but if we can estimate evasion, we should be able to estimate corpse skills in a similar way. Thanks for the input! This is really hard to test or confirm
@@JoespressoGaming you can use a low level decompose and low level brute and test it against an zone boss. It is very easy to confirm.
I have done quite extensive testing on Decompose to find every single ways to scale its damage.
Currently my PF has about 5M DPS on QotF version. 1 set of decompose was enough for me kill Xesht t4 under 10s.
@@myraklus1110 it's the 'as though' that throws me off.
Thank god for your guides man, cause I don’t like weapon swapping & I been wanting to run this build for a while now 👏🏼
Thanks for the updates.❤
great guide, and build idea. thank you! what do you think about clerics? ive seen people build with full cleric setup for more clouds and less time of minion recovery. it seems smoother for mapping but i belive they dont have enough hp to be able to drop down bosses.
Not sure on bosses, but they will be better for consistent cloud creation. I tried them, but didn't like them. I felt that it was better to have a few minions, then rely on monster corpses for more.
That said, i encourage you to try it and see what you think. I know some prefer clerics, so even if the damage is lower, it might be more to your taste
ayo nice video, i wanted to ask you why not run cast on minion death is linked to contagion - profane ritual - despair.
Spirit cost is basically the reason lol. You can do it, and you can drop withering presence for it
that armor looks really nice, which one is it ?
it is the starfall set
The Fart and the Furious
Wrong, a guide is meant to GUIDE you to the right decision, therefore the definition. A wrong build/ build guide will mislead people into thinking they do well, when they don't, and will probably make them quit. If you or any other content creator put out a guide that turns out to be wrong, you'll be called out for it and most probably you'll end up being called a game tourist.
By definition a guide is meant to influence and inform. I didnt say it does not need to be correct, but that it does not make decisions for you. If you cannot take a guide and make it fit your own playstyle, then that is a bigger issue with guides.
I could just post the build and say "do everything like i do" and never explain the mechanics, but then what good is it. Instead I do my best to explain mechanics and the reason for my decisions, because in PoE there are nearly infinite ways to do everything. I would much rather give someone the resources they need to make their own variation than have a person carbon copy what I do.
Its always amusing to see people downplay ingenuity as not needed, sure its not but its far less effective without it. Unless the gameplay showcase also excludes them. I do agree that + chaos damage on the tree has very minimal to no impact, other build guides suggest to take most of the the nodes and I cannot tell the difference with or without it.
Yeah, unfortunately it happens a lot. I did several videos of this build without ingenuity, and the only power possible from rings in increase chaos damage. Fortunately anyone who makes a claim about ingenuity will also have their rings on display, so you can see clearly how much power is in the item
@JoespressoGaming Resist is also power as it allows you to look for gear on other slots with less resist and more meaningful mods.
@Pandemonium088 it is, but ingenuity has no base resistance and the amount of resistance you can get on a rare belt is significant. I showed the belt I was using before, it was basically all resistances.
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