If you want to learn more about the long motorcycle trips check the rest of the videos in the channel or by my book: "How to become a better long distance motorcycle rider" rtw-adventures.com/books-1.html
Your english is the key of the succes of your YT channel becouse it is understandable for most of people, who learned even basis english. If you spoke clear british english, I (and probably thousands of other pepole) would turn off the channel after first minute.
I was doing to write the same. Unfortunately there are many sad people on earth who are so insecure that exposing others vulnerability is the only way they feel alive. I think they are majority now after I’ve been seeing more internet. Only way to deal with them is to just ignore them. We are not dealing rocket science here. You are sharing your opinion based on your vast experience in a very straight forward way about long distance motorcycle riding. A not very complicated topic. Anyone who complain about uploader’s language skill in such a simple topic has problems. I can say this those who is trashing someone speaking with a lot less English skill than you simply because the topic is so uncomplicated. Viewers like your contents including your pretty impressive English as a second language skill. Anyone who speaks multiple languages know this. Another example that many talk about things they don’t know. Please feel firmly confident about your English skill and ignore all those who say otherwise. I now realize I liked your decisive tone a lot. Your kindness for the unfortunate is reducing your charms.
Some dumbbells pulled in front of me,I had to locked 🔒 both brakes in the rain ,the bike went 👇 nothing happened to me or bike except floor board 1,😊easy fix
Do not worry about the accent, in some words it is a bit difficult, but your english it is perfectly understood, your chanel is one of the best in giving advice for motorcycle related issues. 100 points
Crash bars are also handy when you are tying your bike on a ferry or a tow truck, makes things really easy and helps you avoiding nasty scrachts on the wheels. Also you can tie auxiliary lights, or more bags! :D
My tie-down hooks have lost the plastic dip coating. To avoid metal to metal contact, I made 2 loops from (1inch / 25mm) flat webb from an outdoor mountain adventure company. I cut 2 pieces about 2 feet long and tie together with a water knot. Now loop them around the frame, fork tube, handle bar, etc, and no scratches. They come in handy for other uses too; setting up tent/hammock, temporary handles to lift a fallen bike, & whatever else. They weigh almost nohing and take up very little space.
I actually really like your English, the way you describe something is always clear. I think maybe because you struggle to say it, you end up doing a better job than a native English speaker, because you have to think so clearly about what you want top say, and often frame a sentence in multiple ways to cover your point. The outcome is that its easy for us to understand it. And that's the most important thing and why we watch!
Very good comments. I am an engineer and the points you make are the same I have been making for some time now. I especially liked when you mentioned that there should be at least 3 mounting points, and that these are best on the frame. I also add that the more the mounting points, the less the load dumped into the frame or the engine. I hate crash bars, myself, but I hate damage to my bike even more.
Crash bars must protect NOT the motorcycle / motorcycle engine . Crash bars must protect the FEET in the accident . When i go down , i could`t care less about the bike : all i care - my feet . Bars should be perpendicular to the engine - O or C- shaped bars , not parallel !! , and should protrude to the each side at least for 8, 9 inches . I went down on a slow , some 20m/h speed on Honda NC700 , on a snow , and stupid parallel to the engine SW-Motech crash bars did NOTHING to protect my feet . Motorcycle just clipped down and crushed like macaroni my ankle - All three bones right above the ankle are broken . First thing i do when get back on a bike - will throw away those "crash bars " and install C-shaped strong crash bars . Very nice channel .
Please don't worry about your spoken English, it's 100% better than my Bulgarian. Content watchers who criticise probably don't speak English correctly anyway. Another helpful, Intelligent video which will give Adventure riders food for thought when searching out crash bars. All the best & keep up the good work.
There’s nothing wrong with your English, if anything, you make it more descriptive and understanding to more novice audience- thank you. (Sort of remind me of Ross Perot ;).
One issue with crash bars is if you drop the bike going slow then they are fine to protect the engine and panels, the big problem comes if you have a higher speed dismount, say the classic low side, if you lose the front and the bike slides along on its side. If the crash bars slide down the road smoothly then that is good but if they catch on something like a rock or a tree root the bike could flip up in the air and do lots more damage, a high side if you prefer. Sometimes it is better to have something minor break than have it rigid so there is no give in it. Same sort of thing they build into hard panniers in the event of a slide, the pannier will break off its mounts to prevent the dreaded high side. Nothing is perfect, it all becomes a compromise.
You are right about the high side risk being likely increased with crash bars if you loose the bike at highspeed offroad. On the other side the general rule is let the bike go when you fall and with the crashbars hopefully the rider will worry less about the bike and let it go earlier for increased safety.
As usual, very peactical, no BS advice. FYI, your english is not a problem. I understand everything you're saying, and your meaning is clear enough. It's more likely that any misunderstandings between you and your viewers are the result of poor listening, but that's just my opinion. 'Love the vlog. Your advice has saved me much trial and error. Keep it up. Jase
First, your accent is NOT a problem. I find your comments on different bike subjects to be very accurate, practical and logical and I agree 99% of the time (nobody is perfect xcept me). Too many other "expert" video makers tend to overcomplicate many aspects of riding just for the enjoyment that some of us want without spending another 1,000 Euros on equipment after buying the motorcycle.
Each bike has its own needs and luckily ours need very little above the standard protection. Personally I use the yamaha alloy bash plate and puig lower protection bars, which copy the now unavailable yamaha bars. If yamaha think it needs no more who am I too argue? Light is right. Excellent point re the handlebars too. Happy travels.
Hey new viewer here, I have a Tenere 250cc and I ride about 400km on road per week for a few months to go to work. I intalled a Givi protection bar and it worked just fine last week when I crash. They held all the lateral impact from the engine and clutch to the tank. The bike is safe! Thaks for your videos! Cheers from Brazil
I havent realized you where italian until now, my nonna and nonno came to brazil in 48 and stablished their life in san paolo. Im a fan already great videos. Ciao
You've made very good points.... I just recently slide down on my cruiser bike, and all the impacts were absorbed by the Engine guard, the crash did not affect any parts of the motorcycle, except some paint scratches on the muffler shield and engine guard itself, the engine guard was made by my motorcycle manufacturer, so they can carry a 400-lb bike easily. Moral of the story... don't just buy any third party accessories, without really studying its pros and cons, its actual application and use, including durability!
good subject, nice presentation - i am in the UK, i have a touring motorcycle, i have crash bars but the main reason is to mount lights on them to help me be seen. this is what you are saying really, to try to avoid an accident in the first place.
On my Suzuki V-strom, my crashbars have saved me $$$ numerous times: they have saved my fairings (very expensive to replace) when the bike has dropped, and it will drop when touring. I would suggest that if one only does highway riding etc... then perhaps not, but even then, soft asphalt and soft dirt when parked will cause issues as well. I have mototech crashbars btw. They've never bent, but I've had to polish and paint them a few times.
Your English speaking is brilliant absolutely 10/10 no problems understanding what your saying. You have a brilliant way of explaining everything . I wish I could speak Bulgarian half as good as you speak English
I have dropped my bike 2 times now! I am a old rider coming back! 30 year sins i ride . whit out my crash bars, my wallet wood be thin! So my answer to your question, YES!
kolle reke me too. I’m just coming back to motorcycles again after 30 your absence as well. First thing I did was put crash bars on it and I’m very very happy I did.
You have seen me and my multi 950! The crashbars have saved me from alot of money to replace the plastik . I understand your way of saving veight!But this bikes are bilt to have a pillion around 90 kg on the back! The weight issue are only hven you fall and must raise the mc upp! After 14 days i ride my bike like a moped! Roundabouts are my favorits now! I lean like i am the doktor! And i feel good!
One of the problems with current motorcycles is the folding foot pegs. The old system of a solid bar running underneath the bike gave excellent protection to the engine and gear/brake pedals. Sure it would get bent but it was an easy job to pull it off and straighten it. Also the steel brake an clutch levers would just bend and could be straightened.
I used to ride a Honda SL350. It was a fun bike to ride, on or off road. I ran it all over California. The first time I road in gravel, was also my first time off road. As soon as I felt the tires wandering around, I stiffened up, and quickly went over, with the bike pinning me to the ground. I watched my friend ride out of sight, and then reappear soon after. I noticed that he was wobbling precariously, and after he stopped, I realised that it was because he was laughing so hard. I hated soft surfaces. They were miserable to ride on until someone gave me the advice to just relax, and let the back tire do what it would do. I decided to try that out, and it worked. I never dumped the bike again, though I did drop it a few times, and I learned to enjoy that floating feeling you experience on gravel. Would crash bars likely hold the bike off the ground enough that your leg would be less likely to be pinned under the bike?
I love your language.please feel free. 6 months ago I had an accident with Honda NC 700x. I hit The bars. I can clearly say that givi crash bars didn't protect my left leg. I still go to physical therapy and there are many months to cover. The protection depends on the model and brand.
Heres a thought. An adventure motorcycle,with an old style frame,like the old Norton featherbed. The two down tubes coming down from the (steering) headstock would be made wider than the engine,nothing sticks out,so nothing can be broken,put panels on the side,(you cant see the engine) its fully enclosed.Its water cooled.The enclosed space could house any extra equipment your adventure may need.Air going through the radiator comes out hot,redirect this onto the rider,for cold conditions.Now gather some MC mates and beer,discuss,comment.
No need to apologize for your english. In fact the way that you speak is a large part of what makes your videos so good. Keep up the good work. I ride a GSA and I would never ever consider going the corner store for a loaf of bread with crash bars and all of the other protections that I have amassed on my bike. There are a few reasons for that, simply put, I crash a lot and that is not to say that I am still learning how to ride but more in the way of how I ride. The same lengths that I have gone to in order to protect my bike are the same lengths that I go through to put on my riding gear. I'm an offroad guy and I crash a lot.
Absolutely agree with you, it all depends on the bike! I have a ktm 690 smcr and the only thing that i have is radiator protector and slid plate. Everything else is unnecessary. In case of a crash, most of the damage is to handlebars, radiator. While one of my previous bikes, Moto guzzi got instant cylinder-head damage during slight fall :D
I use the stock Triumph crash bars on my 800. Nothing more. I also mount foldable cruise pegs on them so I can relax and get another foot position on long highway sections. Again, another great video.
your way of thinking is absolutely right..it's important that you deliver your knowledge and thoughts.. all the new drivers should carefully listen to you. than you!
For my boxer engined BMW R1150GS ADV, Bars and guards are essential to protecting the engine heads from getting cracked and have saved the engine many times.
'My bike crashes very well' Brilliant. I use to say that to people about my 1979 Z650, which was pretty much bullet proof, but sadly the same could not be said for me. I've gotten better as time has passed, but it's just reassuring to know that some other people will _admit_ to falling off a lot too 🥰 (Hence why I'm here to try and discover if I should buy some crash bars for my Kawasaki Versys 650 [stick with what you know 😉])
In USA or Canada there are hundreds of accents. Everyone speaks differently and they understand each other. Grammar is more important than accent. Your grammar is perfect.
Got Heed crashbars, skidplate and centerstand for my vstrom 2 weeks ago an they looks very solid and as far as l can see protect my tank and headlight plastick. But i guess the crashbars hold the skidplate firmly in place so my very exposed engien get protection. Guess the rider need to loose 5kg now😊.
I can speak from experience about the BMW boxers. Took a spill in a sudden hail storm and ground a nice little hole in the valve cover, enough for most of the oil to drain out. Luckily (??) it was so icy that the bike and I just slid gradually to a stop with relatively minor damage to the bike and none to me. Even my riding clothes were unscratched! Valve cover was easy and relatively cheap to replace - going down in the dry would no doubt do much more damage.
Hey, my opinion for sliders is: they safe your bike for the first hit on the ground. After it will break and ur engine is on the ground. I saw that two times. Crash bars is mutch better I realise it after my crash. Just my meaning. Thank a lot for your Videos and dont worry about your enlish.
Good crash bars like Touratech (I must admit too expensive) works vey well and I think is a must if you are doing many off road travel.. It really protect the motorbike and your leg. I have seen it many times. Thanks for your advices anyway. It is very useful as always.
This video got me thinking. I rode a gs1200 normally so i downsized to a gs800 and i feel so much more comfortable like you said. Its lighter and thinner and more nimble. My next bike i think will be even smaller i believe i could go even less but i still want the comfort for distance. Thankyou again :)
Thank you for the video, good contents as always! I agree with everything, except the recommendation about a larger and more robust handlebar. We need to minimize the damages on the bike most critical and expensive parts. In case o a side crash, let the handlebar absorb the forces and bend if needed. It's a cheap component and very easy to substitute, even in remote regions. A very resistant handlebar will transfer forces to your fork and ball bearings. In a serius crash the weakest component always bends or brakes first, let the handlebar to be the weakest point. Great videos, thumbs up!!
Agree about the logic for handlebar, but when you have it you will feel it like new bike. Also, even the weak handlebar twist it will still transfer some force to the forks. So the question is what you going to choose - better handling and control or possible crash and the damages after that.
I've always mounted crash protection and I bother pretty much everyone about mounting them. After all, can of black paint and some sand paper are cheaper than new engine, new fairing or at very least clutch/stator cover
I once fell at 40km/h on my older Hornet 600, no crash protection. Scratched the motor carter, damaged the rear plastics...If i had the protection, no damage would've happened. I had the crash bars on the Versys 650, protected the bike when my friend dropped it at stand stil. Now, on the Africa Twin, i puchased the Heed Bunker crash bars to substitute the OEM weak one. Yes, it's 10kg, but the bike itself is already heavy, and it only adds about 5-6kgs overall when you remove the oem one. Considering how expensive it could be to repair the bike, i prefer to always have crash bars. And riding skills will do nothing against slippery road surface, nor electronics like ABS, TC will save you: you will go down regardless.
I had sliders on my 2006 z1000 that saved me from losing my leg in a crash when a car t-boned me. The slider to the bring of the impact and protected my leg thankfully.
hello from the uk . dont worry about your english , the way you explain in length is better than the sort answer . ive been watching your video for sometime now. me and my wife are going to buy the yamaha 660 and travel europe we cant wait . hopefully summer 2018. anyway keep the video's coming i really enjoy watching them.
Excellent choice. My good lady and I travel thru Europe on our 660 and it's great. Carries us both all day anywhere on a tank of fuel. Very strong frame too so the extra weight is no problem. Enjoy it!
Please do not apologize for your English skills. Your observations and analysis are always informative and interesting! Thanks so much for your great videos! :-)
First, Pavlin, there's nothing wrong with your English. Being from California, I sometimes have trouble understanding "locals", so, if I can easily understand you, you have nothing to worry about. As for engine/bike protection, while I'm completely in agreement with your "sometimes yes, and sometimes no" answer, I'd like to add that more protection is always better than less. No one ever 'plans' on crashing, no one ever 'plans' I sliding, but, just like insurance, it's a "preventative measure". Better to have "protection" than to not...and better to have too much, as opposed to not enough. The 5 bikes I owned prior to my last bike (2006 Suzuki SV650S) had no added protection, including my third bike (1999 Kawasaki KLR650). However, because of a minor accident involving my fifth bike (1999 Suzuki SV650 "naked"), where a woman side-swiped my right-rear side, causing me to go down, that's what helped lead me to adding some protection to my sixth bike. Having purchased my seventh bike a little over 3 months ago (2017 Yamaha FJ-09, aka MT-09 Tr Acer), I decided that "maximum protection" should be the best route to take. So far, I've installed the beefy GIVI Engine Guard Bars, front & rear axle spools/sliders, side case racks (technically, while not intended as "protection", they do provide some), and s radiator grill. Currently on its way to me is an SW-MOTECH skid plate, which will be followed in the coming months by SW-MOTECH KOBRA handguards w/ turn signals, additional lighting (driving/fog lights, plus additional LED lighting on the lower forks), and reflective striping on the wheels & body panels. Most people only seem to consider "physical" protection, which is great if you get into an accident...but, what a lot of people sometimes forget is the "protection" that can help in avoiding accidents in the first place, such as things that make your bike moves visible to other drivers.
I've got pretty big crash bar on my Honda Shadow I've bought recently and I don't think the bar look nice. So I'm considering taking it off. But if it falls over it will protect the mirrors, break, gear shifting poke or exhaust from breaking, scratching or bending. Such a tough choice weather I should go for the better looks or protecting my bike...
That’s the way it is Pavlin, there is nothing more to say 💫, everybody can improve his riding skills with the right instructor/training/workshop, and keep on riding all the time to become more experienced day by day
Your most salient point came in the very last piece of advice " You will feel a significant difference with you riding skills, if you just buy a lighter bike ". Many GS riders are there for the show-off factor.
I'm an engineer with master degree, when you fall with the "solid crash bar" you will bend the main frame, your expensive motorbike won't feel comfortable anymore. A good crash bar is one that absorbs impact energy, protecting your expensive bike and yourself. after that you can buy a new crash bar.
I feel that the crash bars on my GS:es are to protect the bike from scratches when dropping the bike while maneuvering at slow speeds, nothing more. The engine block is very strong, much stronger than the crash bars, even when the crash bars are mounted properly.
Nice, i was a bit concerned for my bike (Voxan Scrambler, bike no more contructed) but after looking at your video and remembering my first trip on Road40 in Argentina (and the few times i went down) i have been reassured, looking for that 28mm handle bar and handle bar protections instead...
I was born and raised in Belarus, and later moved to USA. i can say that your English more understandable than most american people!!! Dont worry and make more great videos!
Hi Pavel, for many of us, not native speaking, is much better to understand when the person who talk is also not native. The reason to understand me well is because I use much smaller number of words and try to say it properly, but my native language don't really aloud me to do it and they sound very similar to your understandings on it.
Coming from Scotland let me tell you your English is fine, l find it hard to understand a lot of native speakers, maybe due to my having Aspergers, a form of Autism, you explain things very well
Very good advice and well explained. I looked at many engine protectors before I found one that didn't utilize the engine case bolts to mount.. Those might damage your engine with just a tip-over. Thank-you.
I have the SW Motech bars on my transalp, and they do indeed look very weak, but they have protected my bike many times. they are a little bent on the mounting points, but I'd rather they bend than the frame does. And regarding handlebars: I have twisted my tripple.tree (stancion holders) twice now, so maybe having the stiffest setup possible isnt always the best
Tenere 660 have good tank covers that cost less than crash bars in case of modest damage. Touratech crash bars for xtz660 really suck. But Givi offers better protection if you accept the weight increase.
I don't have a left leg (I do have a prosthetic) so if my bike falls left there's no way my Rheo Knee is going to lock out fast enough to catch the bike, so for me they are a "must have". However, ignoring that, I feel that if you go down while moving you are going to have to fix something and it is far better to replace some bars and repair some cosmetics than have to deal with a cracked block. Worth noting that if I had had some bars on the DT250 I took my big hit on there's a good chance I might have kept the leg.
Hi! Don't worry about "proper English", it's good. The more important issue is the quality of what you say! You statements are understandable and the messages are clear. Keep it up, I enjoy the information you provide.
Talking about the water pump on the Tenere... how do you protect it? I had a spill on tarmac that damaged the coolant hose beyond repair and almost chewed through the water pump cover.
There is literally no reason to dislike this video :/ I really don't understand some people Just Hatin' on everybody to the point they have to press that dislike button 0_o U MAD BRO?
IMHO, I prefer those crash cages or crash bars for naked bikes and adventure bikes. though it may give an additional weight, but it is worth it for protecting the whole bike. for sports bikes, I prefer the frame sliders. its annoying to see a sports bike with a crash cage. Ride safe my friend.
My friend hit a deer and the crash bar kept the deer from hitting his leg for the most part .. I hit a Deer with my Yamaha FZ-07 square in the Belly right under the headlight .. at 50 MPH .. it bent for forks . radiator ect.. It's hard to find crash bars for FZ MT-07 but not for MT-09 .. I liked Givi best .. out of stock in USA Ordered from Italy .. I may try to attach a fairing style wind break to my crash bars.. also mount running lights to them.. can also attach small luggage to them
If you want to learn more about the long motorcycle trips check the rest of the videos in the channel or by my book: "How to become a better long distance motorcycle rider" rtw-adventures.com/books-1.html
Your English is good, no need to apologize. Thanks for sharing wisdom and experience! 👍🏽
+1 on that!
Agreed. Thanks for the video!
Your english is the key of the succes of your YT channel becouse it is understandable for most of people, who learned even basis english. If you spoke clear british english, I (and probably thousands of other pepole) would turn off the channel after first minute.
Your speaking is just fine.
The background music is pretty bad. Wish you did not use any background music.
I was doing to write the same. Unfortunately there are many sad people on earth who are so insecure that exposing others vulnerability is the only way they feel alive. I think they are majority now after I’ve been seeing more internet.
Only way to deal with them is to just ignore them.
We are not dealing rocket science here. You are sharing your opinion based on your vast experience in a very straight forward way about long distance motorcycle riding. A not very complicated topic. Anyone who complain about uploader’s language skill in such a simple topic has problems. I can say this those who is trashing someone speaking with a lot less English skill than you simply because the topic is so uncomplicated.
Viewers like your contents including your pretty impressive English as a second language skill. Anyone who speaks multiple languages know this. Another example that many talk about things they don’t know.
Please feel firmly confident about your English skill and ignore all those who say otherwise.
I now realize I liked your decisive tone a lot. Your kindness for the unfortunate is reducing your charms.
2:52"I talked so much and said nothing, like a real politician" hahaha very good
I laughed at that!
But at least we can trust Pavlin.
Ur English is easily understandable and content is solid..no worries there..
Crash guards are most important upgrade. Last weekend i hit a deer and the rock embankment. They gave enough space to not crush my leg/knee.
Some dumbbells pulled in front of me,I had to locked 🔒 both brakes in the rain ,the bike went 👇 nothing happened to me or bike except floor board 1,😊easy fix
Do not worry about the accent, in some words it is a bit difficult, but your english it is perfectly understood, your chanel is one of the best in giving advice for motorcycle related issues.
100 points
Your English speaking in perfectly fine and your tips and advice are Pro, thanks for taking the time to make and upload these videos :)
You are welcome any time my friend!
Crash bars are also handy when you are tying your bike on a ferry or a tow truck, makes things really easy and helps you avoiding nasty scrachts on the wheels. Also you can tie auxiliary lights, or more bags! :D
Yes, they are also very useful when you have to lift it from the ground.
My tie-down hooks have lost the plastic dip coating. To avoid metal to metal contact, I made 2 loops from (1inch / 25mm) flat webb from an outdoor mountain adventure company.
I cut 2 pieces about 2 feet long and tie together with a water knot. Now loop them around the frame, fork tube, handle bar, etc, and no scratches.
They come in handy for other uses too; setting up tent/hammock, temporary handles to lift a fallen bike, & whatever else. They weigh almost nohing and take up very little space.
I actually really like your English, the way you describe something is always clear. I think maybe because you struggle to say it, you end up doing a better job than a native English speaker, because you have to think so clearly about what you want top say, and often frame a sentence in multiple ways to cover your point. The outcome is that its easy for us to understand it. And that's the most important thing and why we watch!
Well, I am glad that you see it that way and of course to find the videos useful. Thanks!
Very good comments. I am an engineer and the points you make are the same I have been making for some time now. I especially liked when you mentioned that there should be at least 3 mounting points, and that these are best on the frame. I also add that the more the mounting points, the less the load dumped into the frame or the engine. I hate crash bars, myself, but I hate damage to my bike even more.
Crash bars must protect NOT the motorcycle / motorcycle engine . Crash bars must protect the FEET in the accident . When i go down , i could`t care less about the bike : all i care - my feet . Bars should be perpendicular to the engine - O or C- shaped bars , not parallel !! , and should protrude to the each side at least for 8, 9 inches . I went down on a slow , some 20m/h speed on Honda NC700 , on a snow , and stupid parallel to the engine SW-Motech crash bars did NOTHING to protect my feet . Motorcycle just clipped down and crushed like macaroni my ankle - All three bones right above the ankle are broken . First thing i do when get back on a bike - will throw away those "crash bars " and install C-shaped strong crash bars .
Very nice channel .
I am really sorry about the accident you have! I hope that you will recover quick and will jump on the bike again.
Pavlin, no problems whatsoever with your communication skills. I like it that way. No BS. As usual, good and informative. Thank you.
For me your english is the best english i've ever listened. I can undestand everything. Greatings from Brazil.
Please don't worry about your spoken English, it's 100% better than my Bulgarian. Content watchers who criticise probably don't speak English correctly anyway. Another helpful, Intelligent video which will give Adventure riders food for thought when searching out crash bars. All the best & keep up the good work.
Happy travels for you as well! Thanks for watching!
Please put. the sub tittles in.english
There’s nothing wrong with your English, if anything, you make it more descriptive and understanding to more novice audience- thank you. (Sort of remind me of Ross Perot ;).
Is this Ross Perot ...the chicken man of Texas ...
Another practical episode of advice from someone with real-world experience and not a product to sell. I'll use your advice for my 640 ADV.
Thx for the perfect words again. Like in every other of your videos! Your english is pretty good and easy to understand!
One issue with crash bars is if you drop the bike going slow then they are fine to protect the engine and panels, the big problem comes if you have a higher speed dismount, say the classic low side, if you lose the front and the bike slides along on its side.
If the crash bars slide down the road smoothly then that is good but if they catch on something like a rock or a tree root the bike could flip up in the air and do lots more damage, a high side if you prefer.
Sometimes it is better to have something minor break than have it rigid so there is no give in it.
Same sort of thing they build into hard panniers in the event of a slide, the pannier will break off its mounts to prevent the dreaded high side.
Nothing is perfect, it all becomes a compromise.
Correct, as I said they could be very useful, but also useless. Thanks for adding it!
You are right about the high side risk being likely increased with crash bars if you loose the bike at highspeed offroad.
On the other side the general rule is let the bike go when you fall and with the crashbars hopefully the rider will worry less about the bike and let it go earlier for increased safety.
Your English is absolutely powerful. I appreciate your videos.
Thanks Brandon!
As usual, very peactical, no BS advice. FYI, your english is not a problem. I understand everything you're saying, and your meaning is clear enough. It's more likely that any misunderstandings between you and your viewers are the result of poor listening, but that's just my opinion. 'Love the vlog. Your advice has saved me much trial and error. Keep it up.
Jase
First, your accent is NOT a problem. I find your comments on different bike subjects to be very accurate, practical and logical and I agree 99% of the time (nobody is perfect xcept me). Too many other "expert" video makers tend to overcomplicate many aspects of riding just for the enjoyment that some of us want without spending another 1,000 Euros on equipment after buying the motorcycle.
Thanks for taking the time!
Each bike has its own needs and luckily ours need very little above the standard protection. Personally I use the yamaha alloy bash plate and puig lower protection bars, which copy the now unavailable yamaha bars. If yamaha think it needs no more who am I too argue? Light is right.
Excellent point re the handlebars too.
Happy travels.
Hey new viewer here, I have a Tenere 250cc and I ride about 400km on road per week for a few months to go to work. I intalled a Givi protection bar and it worked just fine last week when I crash. They held all the lateral impact from the engine and clutch to the tank. The bike is safe! Thaks for your videos! Cheers from Brazil
If it's works for you than use it.
I havent realized you where italian until now, my nonna and nonno came to brazil in 48 and stablished their life in san paolo. Im a fan already great videos. Ciao
You've made very good points.... I just recently slide down on my cruiser bike, and all the impacts were absorbed by the Engine guard, the crash did not affect any parts of the motorcycle, except some paint scratches on the muffler shield and engine guard itself, the engine guard was made by my motorcycle manufacturer, so they can carry a 400-lb bike easily. Moral of the story... don't just buy any third party accessories, without really studying its pros and cons, its actual application and use, including durability!
Very well said, thanks Ed!
good subject, nice presentation - i am in the UK, i have a touring motorcycle, i have crash bars but the main reason is to mount lights on them to help me be seen. this is what you are saying really, to try to avoid an accident in the first place.
Exactly! Preventive riding mode is way better than any lights!
The background makes it harder to hear. Please stop adding music.
On my Suzuki V-strom, my crashbars have saved me $$$ numerous times: they have saved my fairings (very expensive to replace) when the bike has dropped, and it will drop when touring. I would suggest that if one only does highway riding etc... then perhaps not, but even then, soft asphalt and soft dirt when parked will cause issues as well. I have mototech crashbars btw. They've never bent, but I've had to polish and paint them a few times.
Pavlin, your english is good and the advices are clear and top notch!! Keep doing the good job and ride safe!!!
I will, thanks!
Your English speaking is brilliant absolutely 10/10 no problems understanding what your saying.
You have a brilliant way of explaining everything .
I wish I could speak Bulgarian half as good as you speak English
I have dropped my bike 2 times now! I am a old rider coming back! 30 year sins i ride . whit out my crash bars, my wallet wood be thin! So my answer to your question, YES!
kolle reke me too. I’m just coming back to motorcycles again after 30 your absence as well. First thing I did was put crash bars on it and I’m very very happy I did.
You have seen me and my multi 950! The crashbars have saved me from alot of money to replace the plastik . I understand your way of saving veight!But this bikes are bilt to have a pillion around 90 kg on the back! The weight issue are only hven you fall and must raise the mc upp! After 14 days i ride my bike like a moped! Roundabouts are my favorits now! I lean like i am the doktor! And i feel good!
One of the problems with current motorcycles is the folding foot pegs. The old system of a solid bar running underneath the bike gave excellent protection to the engine and gear/brake pedals. Sure it would get bent but it was an easy job to pull it off and straighten it. Also the steel brake an clutch levers would just bend and could be straightened.
Yes, there is no perfect world. One on the cost of another.
not biker yet, but find Your videos very informative. reason above all as usual. thank You!
I used to ride a Honda SL350. It was a fun bike to ride, on or off road. I ran it all over California. The first time I road in gravel, was also my first time off road. As soon as I felt the tires wandering around, I stiffened up, and quickly went over, with the bike pinning me to the ground. I watched my friend ride out of sight, and then reappear soon after. I noticed that he was wobbling precariously, and after he stopped, I realised that it was because he was laughing so hard.
I hated soft surfaces. They were miserable to ride on until someone gave me the advice to just relax, and let the back tire do what it would do. I decided to try that out, and it worked. I never dumped the bike again, though I did drop it a few times, and I learned to enjoy that floating feeling you experience on gravel.
Would crash bars likely hold the bike off the ground enough that your leg would be less likely to be pinned under the bike?
They might helps in some cases...
I love your language.please feel free. 6 months ago I had an accident with Honda NC 700x. I hit The bars. I can clearly say that givi crash bars didn't protect my left leg. I still go to physical therapy and there are many months to cover. The protection depends on the model and brand.
I am sorry to heard that! I hope that you will be able to recover fast and jump on the bike again. Thanks for watching and commend it my friend!
Heres a thought. An adventure motorcycle,with an old style frame,like the old Norton featherbed. The two down tubes coming down from the (steering) headstock would be made wider than the engine,nothing sticks out,so nothing can be broken,put panels on the side,(you cant see the engine) its fully enclosed.Its water cooled.The enclosed space could house any extra equipment your adventure may need.Air going through the radiator comes out hot,redirect this onto the rider,for cold conditions.Now gather some MC mates and beer,discuss,comment.
No need to apologize for your english. In fact the way that you speak is a large part of what makes your videos so good. Keep up the good work. I ride a GSA and I would never ever consider going the corner store for a loaf of bread with crash bars and all of the other protections that I have amassed on my bike. There are a few reasons for that, simply put, I crash a lot and that is not to say that I am still learning how to ride but more in the way of how I ride. The same lengths that I have gone to in order to protect my bike are the same lengths that I go through to put on my riding gear. I'm an offroad guy and I crash a lot.
I perfectly understand you.
Absolutely agree with you, it all depends on the bike! I have a ktm 690 smcr and the only thing that i have is radiator protector and slid plate. Everything else is unnecessary. In case of a crash, most of the damage is to handlebars, radiator. While one of my previous bikes, Moto guzzi got instant cylinder-head damage during slight fall :D
I use the stock Triumph crash bars on my 800. Nothing more. I also mount foldable cruise pegs on them so I can relax and get another foot position on long highway sections. Again, another great video.
Triumph crash bars are good. They are very solid.
your way of thinking is absolutely right..it's important that you deliver your knowledge and thoughts.. all the new drivers should carefully listen to you. than you!
McrRider sending props to Mr Moto Adv. Both guys educating rider community to ride safe. Thanks and CHEERS for all you do, wh ev side of the Atlantic
Good point about the handle bars. Those are the first to impact the planet.
English is my 1st language and I understand you perfectly. Cant see a need on lightweight dual sport. But case savers a must. Skid plate too...
True
For my boxer engined BMW R1150GS ADV, Bars and guards are essential to protecting the engine heads from getting cracked and have saved the engine many times.
Yes, they are, as I said in the video.
'My bike crashes very well'
Brilliant. I use to say that to people about my 1979 Z650, which was pretty much bullet proof, but sadly the same could not be said for me. I've gotten better as time has passed, but it's just reassuring to know that some other people will _admit_ to falling off a lot too 🥰
(Hence why I'm here to try and discover if I should buy some crash bars for my Kawasaki Versys 650 [stick with what you know 😉])
Thanks for taking the time!
In USA or Canada there are hundreds of accents. Everyone speaks differently and they understand each other. Grammar is more important than accent. Your grammar is perfect.
Cool!
Your English is very easy to understand! Keep on making the best adventure videos on UA-cam!
I will, thanks!
Got Heed crashbars, skidplate and centerstand for my vstrom 2 weeks ago an they looks very solid and as far as l can see protect my tank and headlight plastick. But i guess the crashbars hold the skidplate firmly in place so my very exposed engien get protection. Guess the rider need to loose 5kg now😊.
Always spot on in giving the best advice on motorcycling!
Well explained my friend. I use Heed bars from Poland on my Tiger 800. Well made, sturdy , and fairly easy to fit.
I can speak from experience about the BMW boxers. Took a spill in a sudden hail storm and ground a nice little hole in the valve cover, enough for most of the oil to drain out. Luckily (??) it was so icy that the bike and I just slid gradually to a stop with relatively minor damage to the bike and none to me. Even my riding clothes were unscratched! Valve cover was easy and relatively cheap to replace - going down in the dry would no doubt do much more damage.
Yes, as I said in the video for some bikes the crash bars are must.
The worst part was standing in the rain for a few hours and the 200 mile tow back home ;(
Hey, my opinion for sliders is: they safe your bike for the first hit on the ground. After it will break and ur engine is on the ground. I saw that two times. Crash bars is mutch better I realise it after my crash. Just my meaning.
Thank a lot for your Videos and dont worry about your enlish.
Use whatever work for you.
Good crash bars like Touratech (I must admit too expensive) works vey well and I think is a must if you are doing many off road travel.. It really protect the motorbike and your leg. I have seen it many times. Thanks for your advices anyway. It is very useful as always.
Congratulations ! You managed to reach all the essential points of this topic, being understood by everyone.
Glad you think so!
This video got me thinking. I rode a gs1200 normally so i downsized to a gs800 and i feel so much more comfortable like you said. Its lighter and thinner and more nimble. My next bike i think will be even smaller i believe i could go even less but i still want the comfort for distance. Thankyou again :)
Thank you for the video, good contents as always! I agree with everything, except the recommendation about a larger and more robust handlebar. We need to minimize the damages on the bike most critical and expensive parts. In case o a side crash, let the handlebar absorb the forces and bend if needed. It's a cheap component and very easy to substitute, even in remote regions. A very resistant handlebar will transfer forces to your fork and ball bearings. In a serius crash the weakest component always bends or brakes first, let the handlebar to be the weakest point. Great videos, thumbs up!!
Agree about the logic for handlebar, but when you have it you will feel it like new bike. Also, even the weak handlebar twist it will still transfer some force to the forks. So the question is what you going to choose - better handling and control or possible crash and the damages after that.
I've always mounted crash protection and I bother pretty much everyone about mounting them. After all, can of black paint and some sand paper are cheaper than new engine, new fairing or at very least clutch/stator cover
I once fell at 40km/h on my older Hornet 600, no crash protection. Scratched the motor carter, damaged the rear plastics...If i had the protection, no damage would've happened.
I had the crash bars on the Versys 650, protected the bike when my friend dropped it at stand stil. Now, on the Africa Twin, i puchased the Heed Bunker crash bars to substitute the OEM weak one. Yes, it's 10kg, but the bike itself is already heavy, and it only adds about 5-6kgs overall when you remove the oem one. Considering how expensive it could be to repair the bike, i prefer to always have crash bars. And riding skills will do nothing against slippery road surface, nor electronics like ABS, TC will save you: you will go down regardless.
For some models the crash bars are must.
You are 100% right... good for the seller..but it adds 5 kilos..just do not drop the bik. Yamaha 1200 has very good protection already..
True
I had sliders on my 2006 z1000 that saved me from losing my leg in a crash when a car t-boned me. The slider to the bring of the impact and protected my leg thankfully.
Good!
hello from the uk . dont worry about your english , the way you explain in length is better than the sort answer .
ive been watching your video for sometime now. me and my wife are going to buy the yamaha 660 and travel europe we cant wait . hopefully summer 2018. anyway keep the video's coming i really enjoy watching them.
I will. Thanks for the kind words! Good luck on your adventures!
Excellent choice. My good lady and I travel thru Europe on our 660 and it's great. Carries us both all day anywhere on a tank of fuel. Very strong frame too so the extra weight is no problem. Enjoy it!
Thanks for the replay. And I can't wait for the adventure. Safe riding everyone
Please do not apologize for your English skills. Your observations and analysis are always informative and interesting! Thanks so much for your great videos! :-)
Thanks Tom!
First, Pavlin, there's nothing wrong with your English. Being from California, I sometimes have trouble understanding "locals", so, if I can easily understand you, you have nothing to worry about.
As for engine/bike protection, while I'm completely in agreement with your "sometimes yes, and sometimes no" answer, I'd like to add that more protection is always better than less. No one ever 'plans' on crashing, no one ever 'plans' I sliding, but, just like insurance, it's a "preventative measure". Better to have "protection" than to not...and better to have too much, as opposed to not enough. The 5 bikes I owned prior to my last bike (2006 Suzuki SV650S) had no added protection, including my third bike (1999 Kawasaki KLR650). However, because of a minor accident involving my fifth bike (1999 Suzuki SV650 "naked"), where a woman side-swiped my right-rear side, causing me to go down, that's what helped lead me to adding some protection to my sixth bike. Having purchased my seventh bike a little over 3 months ago (2017 Yamaha FJ-09, aka MT-09 Tr Acer), I decided that "maximum protection" should be the best route to take. So far, I've installed the beefy GIVI Engine Guard Bars, front & rear axle spools/sliders, side case racks (technically, while not intended as "protection", they do provide some), and s radiator grill. Currently on its way to me is an SW-MOTECH skid plate, which will be followed in the coming months by SW-MOTECH KOBRA handguards w/ turn signals, additional lighting (driving/fog lights, plus additional LED lighting on the lower forks), and reflective striping on the wheels & body panels. Most people only seem to consider "physical" protection, which is great if you get into an accident...but, what a lot of people sometimes forget is the "protection" that can help in avoiding accidents in the first place, such as things that make your bike moves visible to other drivers.
Agree
A lighter bike will solve most of the issues, and I agree with you, improving your riding skills will add to protection.
This advice is right on the money! As always. Thanks for taking the time !
Thanks man!
I understand your English 100%, One would have to be a knucklehead to misunderstand your speech. Excellent!
thank you for this video, and you english is fine, better than most living in the USA....
Thanks, man!
Excellent video, I was thoroughly confused after watching 100 videos. Thanks for taking the time to address this and your English is great!
Glad it helped!
I've got pretty big crash bar on my Honda Shadow I've bought recently and I don't think the bar look nice. So I'm considering taking it off. But if it falls over it will protect the mirrors, break, gear shifting poke or exhaust from breaking, scratching or bending. Such a tough choice weather I should go for the better looks or protecting my bike...
Whatever works for you!
Nice vidéos, great advices; cheers from Montreal
Thanks for watching!
That’s the way it is Pavlin, there is nothing more to say 💫, everybody can improve his riding skills with the right instructor/training/workshop, and keep on riding all the time to become more experienced day by day
Thanks man!
Better to have, and not need, Than to need, and not have
Nick Joyce many who married in haste would disagree
Most underrated channel
Help me to share it to more people...
Motorcycle Adventures definitely.
Your most salient point came in the very last piece of advice " You will feel a significant difference with you riding skills, if you just buy a lighter bike ". Many GS riders are there for the show-off factor.
True
Crashbars worth every penny. I had almost ten crashes standing or speeding with my sevenfifty not a scratch on my bike..😀
Good, as I said in the video for some bikes they are must.
You.spoke well in your explanation of the crash bars and of the rest of the parts.Thanks for the video Sir.
You are welcome anytime!
I'm an engineer with master degree, when you fall with the "solid crash bar" you will bend the main frame, your expensive motorbike won't feel comfortable anymore.
A good crash bar is one that absorbs impact energy, protecting your expensive bike and yourself. after that you can buy a new crash bar.
I agree
I feel that the crash bars on my GS:es are to protect the bike from scratches when dropping the bike while maneuvering at slow speeds, nothing more. The engine block is very strong, much stronger than the crash bars, even when the crash bars are mounted properly.
You are not far from the truth I think.
Nice, i was a bit concerned for my bike (Voxan Scrambler, bike no more contructed) but after looking at your video and remembering my first trip on Road40 in Argentina (and the few times i went down) i have been reassured, looking for that 28mm handle bar and handle bar protections instead...
Glad I could help!
Nice video. Well explained and easily understood 👍
Glad it was helpful!
I was born and raised in Belarus, and later moved to USA. i can say that your English more understandable than most american people!!! Dont worry and make more great videos!
Hi Pavel, for many of us, not native speaking, is much better to understand when the person who talk is also not native. The reason to understand me well is because I use much smaller number of words and try to say it properly, but my native language don't really aloud me to do it and they sound very similar to your understandings on it.
Coming from Scotland let me tell you your English is fine, l find it hard to understand a lot of native speakers, maybe due to my having Aspergers, a form of Autism, you explain things very well
I still think that it is much better from your Bulgarian...thanks for the encouragement!
Very good advice and well explained. I looked at many engine protectors before I found one that didn't utilize the engine case bolts to mount.. Those might damage your engine with just a tip-over. Thank-you.
Correct, I will never buy one of these.
I have the SW Motech bars on my transalp, and they do indeed look very weak, but they have protected my bike many times. they are a little bent on the mounting points, but I'd rather they bend than the frame does.
And regarding handlebars: I have twisted my tripple.tree (stancion holders) twice now, so maybe having the stiffest setup possible isnt always the best
Good points, as you know the truth is always between...
Congratulations for your english and the detailed talk! Keep riding! Best regards from Greece!
Thanks!
Thank for the perfect advice. I think you are absolutely right and for me a USA guy, your English is fine.
Thanks man, I think that my English is still better then you Bulgarian...
HaHa you're right about that. Your German, Russian, Bulgarian and even your Spanish is way better than mine.
your english is clearly understood, better than mine. and i like your accent and spirit...
Thanks, man!
As always.. perfect advice. bad for aftermarket business..
Greetings From India. Nice learning
Tenere 660 have good tank covers that cost less than crash bars in case of modest damage.
Touratech crash bars for xtz660 really suck. But Givi offers better protection if you accept the weight increase.
True
I don't have a left leg (I do have a prosthetic) so if my bike falls left there's no way my Rheo Knee is going to lock out fast enough to catch the bike, so for me they are a "must have". However, ignoring that, I feel that if you go down while moving you are going to have to fix something and it is far better to replace some bars and repair some cosmetics than have to deal with a cracked block. Worth noting that if I had had some bars on the DT250 I took my big hit on there's a good chance I might have kept the leg.
As I said, for some bikes and situations thy could be must.
Hi! Don't worry about "proper English", it's good. The more important issue is the quality of what you say! You statements are understandable and the messages are clear. Keep it up, I enjoy the information you provide.
Thanks for taking the time Mike!
hey man im an ALL AMERICAN country bumpkin that is totally capable of butchering my own home language.. i understand your English fine.. CHEERS!
Talking about the water pump on the Tenere... how do you protect it? I had a spill on tarmac that damaged the coolant hose beyond repair and almost chewed through the water pump cover.
My engine guard is a bit wider and protect the water pump.
As usual, words of wisdom. Clear and concise. Great video, Pavlin!
Thank you my friend!
Understand your English better than younger American people. Thanks for the brutal honesty, and no Adverts.
Cool!
There is literally no reason to dislike this video :/ I really don't understand some people Just Hatin' on everybody to the point they have to press that dislike button 0_o U MAD BRO?
Don't even worry about it. They might not like me, my t-shirt, the wall behind me, the pillows, the accent or the way I talk.
It is a common mistake of drunk people. They are too confused and they think they click "Dis-I-like" button.
Excellent video Pavlin and has been said your English is very good no problems with it.
IMHO, I prefer those crash cages or crash bars for naked bikes and adventure bikes. though it may give an additional weight, but it is worth it for protecting the whole bike.
for sports bikes, I prefer the frame sliders. its annoying to see a sports bike with a crash cage.
Ride safe my friend.
Whatever you like, just use it. Thanks for watching!
My friend hit a deer and the crash bar kept the deer from hitting his leg for the most part .. I hit a Deer with my Yamaha FZ-07 square in the Belly right under the headlight .. at 50 MPH .. it bent for forks . radiator ect..
It's hard to find crash bars for FZ MT-07 but not for MT-09 .. I liked Givi best .. out of stock in USA Ordered from Italy ..
I may try to attach a fairing style wind break to my crash bars.. also mount running lights to them.. can also attach small luggage to them