Thanks for your videos. I'm a 64-year-old male. Started Martial Arts training from the age of 13. I've trained in Karate, Judo, Indonesian Silat, 40 years of Qigong, some Wing Chun, and currently training Sun Lutang's system of Taiji, Xingyi and Bagua in China. I'll be going through the discipleship ceremony later this month. I'm training towards completing all three systems in order to become a lineage holder. I've also met with Sun Lutang's granddaughter and great granddaughter in recent months.
Amazing and Bless so awesome to accomplish so much especially Sun Lu Tang’s System👍 Holding Xing Yi stance or Chi Ball stance for 1.5 to 2 hours have you reached that pinnacle? Again Bless to ALL you have Mastered👍
So cool! I'm also living in China, I'm in Guangzhou and Foshan. Can I add your wechat? lol... I'm practicing Qigong every day and practicing on my wooden dummy, however i'm just learning from UA-cam and its very difficult to follow a screen, because I keep mixing up left and right side movements. On weekends I practice baji quan in the city. I'm having trouble finding a good teacher for exactly what i'm looking for though. Do you think you can help me find some resources?
@@patnmelpharr8481 Thank you for your message. So far I've finished learning the Taiji system. However, mastering it will take some more years. I've also completed the 8 different hand movements for circle walk in Bagua and the five elements of Xingyi Quan. I'm getting better at maintaining the Xingyi stance of "San Ti Shi," but could use more refinement, I'm sure. Over the years, I've managed to practice Zhang Zhuang or the Qi Ball stance for 30-60 minutes. Never more than that.
This was fascinating! I have practiced Wing Chun and Jun Fan Gung Fu/Jeet Kune Do for 25 years, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu for 15, and Atienza Kali at a beginner level. Also some Muay Thai and I have been beginning Judo. I have also learned some Chi Kung exercises. As I have gotten older, mediation and internal martial arts have really begun to interest me. I have just started learning Tai Chi and have definitely noticed the therapeutic & rejuvenative properties of it. Amazing that Sun Lu Tang mastered all 3 internal arts though! A true gung fu master & someone to admire & look up to!
To refine this answer, as Shaolin contains both Kung Fu, Qigong and Zen, the pinnacle is to realise your own Buddha-nature and become a fully enlightened being. Wudang has a similar path with the goal to become a Daoist Immortal which Zhang San Feng achieved.
The histroy in this video is completely off. The term "internal martial arts" first appeared in Huang Zongxi's 1669 Epitaph for Wang Zhengnan. Theclassification of the internal martial arts with the indigenous Chinese Daoism and of the external martial arts with the foreign Buddhism of Shaolin-and the Manchu Qing Dynasty to which Huang Zongxi was opposed-was an act of political defiance rather than one of technical classification. Later Sun Lutang invented his own definition of internal. Xingyi was not created by Yue Fei, it was Ji Jike. Baguazhang was not created by Dong Haichuan, but used to be called Bapanzhang and was not based on the Yijing originally. The circle walking was also added later by Cheng Tinghua Tai chi was not created by the mythological figure Zhang Sanfeng, but by Chen Wangting in Chen Villiage. The myth of Zhang Sanfeng was created by the cosplayers at Wudang because they have no history of their own
In his steps, I have practiced and taught Tai Chi Chuan, Hsing-I Chuan and Pa Kwa Chang for 55 years. Deeply influenced by Sun Lu Tang and Gia Fu Feng, I trained with the families of the founders. Yes, Wu De is fundamental for the Nei Chia martial artist. Thanks for sharing!
@@danouski Hello dear friend: I am happy that you like to practice Martial Arts. I left China for South Korea a few years ago. Currently, I share my time between France and Mexico. I am sure you will find great experts willing to teach their styles in Guangzhou. Do you have any preferences about styles? Good Luck and Long Life.
Start with the books of Robert W. Smith like Chinese Boxing Masters and Methods then his books where he collaborated with his student Allen Pittman. Google ‘NAMT 2012 avec Allen Pittman’ for a brief demo of hsing-I and Bagua.
Pi Gua Chuan, Pao Chui, Yi Quan, and a few others. Back ~150-200 years ago when internal body mechanics was the new hotness there was a LOT Of innovation and cross-fertilization employing the new technology
The term "internal martial arts" first appeared in Huang Zongxi's 1669 Epitaph for Wang Zhengnan. Theclassification of the internal martial arts with the indigenous Chinese Daoism and of the external martial arts with the foreign Buddhism of Shaolin-and the Manchu Qing Dynasty to which Huang Zongxi was opposed-was an act of political defiance rather than one of technical classification. Later Sun Lutang invented his own definition of internal. Xingyi was not created by Yue Fei, it was Ji Jike. Baguazhang was not created by Dong Haichuan, but used to be called Bapanzhang and was not based on the Yijing originally. The circle walking was also added later by Cheng Tinghua Tai chi was not created by the mythological figure Zhang Sanfeng, but by Chen Wangting in Chen Villiage. The myth of Zhang Sanfeng was created by the cosplayers at Wudang because they have no history of their own
Thank you for this information. Oddly enough, years ago in the last centry I read two of the Master's Manuals, and investiged on intergarating still, movement and technique into smooth quiet motions...thank you, it is time to retrance my lost history.
As Shaolin contains both Kung Fu, Qigong and Zen, the pinnacle of this tradition is to realise your own Buddha-nature and become a fully enlightened being. Wudang has a similar path with the goal to become Daoist Immortal which Zhang San Feng achieved.
shaolin has no history, and was not founded by bodhidharma. martial arts do not teach you about buddha nature. the tathagatagarbha sutras do. Although they can also be interpreted as contradicting dependent origination
It's actually really interesting how the Wai Jia Quan (External) and Nei Jia Quan (Internal) dichotomy first emerged. It actually had more of a socio-political conotation. Wai Jia Quan were often used to refer to arts rooted in Buddhist philosophies and teachings. Buddhism was considered the "foreign" religion brought from India, hence why they were deemed External styles. Conversely, Nei Jia Quan was used to refer to styles drawing on Daoist philosophy and teaching. Since Taoism was considered the native religion, those styles were labeled Internal. Source: Meir Shahar. The Shaolin Monastery : History, Religion, and the Chinese Martial Arts. Honolulu, University Of Hawai’i Press, 2011.
I would add this from really living in the mainland and meeting some of the best and competing in private areas with other arts of all sorts. All of them are external…..you have to make you your taiji, xingyi, or bagua internal. They all start off external. Im saying to give insight because i know what it is to wonder at these differences of internal and external,,,,word semantics of 内家neijia….simply means in the family…passed down methods. You dont have to sit in meditation or be religious at all. I tell you. You get it. Thats the reality. Maybe have the student swear by a code or religious element. Do some head knocking or 拜吃as ritual to signify lineage.Budhist, daoist,,,whatever…the teacher likes you…he teaches you…you got a lot of money…he teaches. In the past not always, but its pretty much what goes on these days. Yeah there is qi but its more the byproduct or result if proper training. Many teachers never even mention the word. I guy always talking about chi…he doesnt know. He’s just imagening….and if he’s got his hair tied back in a bonnet…go the other way…he’s fantasizing…reading books..he doesnt know. I say this to save you agony and maybe streamline the learning curve.
The term "internal martial arts" first appeared in Huang Zongxi's 1669 Epitaph for Wang Zhengnan. The classification of the internal martial arts with the indigenous Chinese Daoism and of the external martial arts with the foreign Buddhism of Shaolin-and the Manchu Qing Dynasty to which Huang Zongxi was opposed-was an act of political defiance rather than one of technical classification.
@@Purwapada applaud your research. It is correct. However in modern chinese usage among lineage holders it means family taught. Neijia…in the loop….in the click….in the family. Using the term neijia among real nejia practitioners…is almost non existant. We are aware of it….like saying your working the inner side of your body or conditioning it…….the teacher gives you the stuff passed through the family line. …but almost never use the term neijia itself in daily talk.What is usually referred to …..is indoor disciple or beginner 入门第子….in plain English we would just say he’s so and so’s student. That was the daily reality. Like using the word Qi. Nobody who had the real thing ever used it, to the best of my knowledge ,,,unless they were lost or they simply didnt want to share the information of how they did what they did. I saw my teacher do it once. We were in people’s park demonstrating. You could say the term neijia as its used today in china is kind of like using the word aiki in Japanese. Its not from the art called aikido. It was always out there for centuries. Its a generic term for using a training principle taught in private instruction. Anyway hope that helps in understanding some of the realities in plain language…and every day cultural use.
❤❤❤yah love your video,ive read about Sun Lu Tang history about his kung fu arts...indeed he's amazing mastered the 3 styles of the srts...incredible indeed...🎉🎉
Both Hsing-i and Ba-gua traditional practitioners did a ton of weight training and heavy bag work plus using all kinds of odd tools to increase strength, mobility, flexibility, etc. Using only chi is a myth. Robert W Smith was very clear about this.
Qi is not a myth. It is just not what you think it is as it is an umbrella for so many different things. And that guy you cited is no reference to making such an erroneous claim.
Very educational. Fascinating. The Chinese are light years ahead of ALL cultures. I’m a Westerner - American - and I love my country. But there is no way the U.S. or any other country will beat the mental discipline of the Chinese people.
I studied with Wong, Ark-yuey. He was reported to be one of the few who knew the 5 Meridian Tai Chi sets. I never learned them. He taught them to only one person I know of.
Hi. I like your videos. I had the privilege of learning Yang Tai Chi from Fu Sheng Yuan and two of his disciples, Paul Brown and Lorne Wilson. Master Fu left China in the 80s and moved to Perth in Western Australia to further promote Tai Chi. He was met by the Australian Prime Minister Bob Hawke on arrival and was considered a Chinese Treasure. He linage was from Yang Lu Chan. His father was Fu Zhong Wen who was the disciple of Yang Chengfu. Both of these people were accomplished masters that are worth a look at. Cheers
Martial Morality eventually reflects Cultural and social interaction between humans and the path mankind takes. many ppl takes this for granted in this universe, they don't see this or understand the consequences. But this the reason why many non asian ppl thinks China will start a war. But a real Martial Artist will never do that, because martial morality influenced many ethnic Han Chinese to NOT do that, or else even Sworn brother won't forgive you. Though CCP is technically a western invention, you could only blame Marxism itself.
Thank you Byron. Another excellent martial arts video as usual! As many of your viewers I am also a student and lineage holder of the Three Treasures. Knowing their teacher considers himself to be not much more than an older student, some of my own students presented Sun's book on Pa Kua Ch'ang for my consideration and erudition. And I was thrilled and told them as much. However, after two years I came to the conclusion that it is not an easy book to understand. As you must know most everything in it is couched in terms only a scholar of the I-Ching would recognize, and so, at this time I have had to set this work aside until some future date when I might glean a key to its understanding. However I feel confident that Sun's book on Hsing Yi Ch'uan will be much easier to grasp. Any suggestions? BTW. I had forgotten about Sun's early attempt to flee this mortal coil, his rescue, and subsequent acceptance the other teachers in our own lineage. The last part of his life, spending the years in Taoist meditation and presumably obtaining enlightenment was also unknown to me. It is heartwarming to know that other kung-fu men have used the boxing Way to find the inner path to the Wuji. All the same in contemporary times those of us who are doing so must be some sort of anomaly. To my brethren, those pilgrims on this path, let me say, Do not be discouraged. Keep a clear and focused intention in your training and be sincere in your practices. Do not overlook Jam Jhong and seated meditation. The eight limbs of yoga has certainly deepened my understanding and progress. Thanks again. Keep practice, train for life. Laoshr #60 Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
Ba gua Zhang is the child of 12 Ermei Zhang ( A Daoist system very similar to Ba Gua.) Ther exists on Ermei Mountain a Daoist Temple dedicated to 12 Ermei Zhang. Sergio Laderola discovered this during his search for the roots of Wing Chun, when he traveled near Yong Chun Village at Ermei Mountain.
Been trying be get to this clip for a few weeks now. Sun LuTang' s creation of Sun Tai Chi Chuan/Sun Tai Gek Kuen was quite an accomplishment. Sun Shifu/Sifu system while very powerful isn't as popular as Yang style Tai Chi/Tai Gek. Here in the Nation's Capital of Washington DC, their was a Sun Style practitioner teacher not far from Capitol Hill. The school unfortunately closed it's doors within about 2 years. From the best of my knowledge their is a practitioner of Sun Tai Chi/Tai Gek named Saleem Alamudeen, who runs Lam Tang Kung Fu Academy located in Lexington, South Carolina. His lineage cones from his late Master, Kwong Wing Lam Sifu, who himself learned the system from the daughter of Sun LuTang , GM Sun Jianyun.
Yang chengfu beat him in friendly contest…they were friends…fuzhensong was equal at least to Yang…in friendly pushhands he scored on him and Yang complained it was because he used his bagua footwork.
Credit shifu. Great video on Sun Lu Tang history. You showed a clip!of a movie about Xin Yi Quan. Can you tell me the name of that film? It looks like a really good one.
It was heartbreaking to witness how contemporary martial arts (MMA) were destroying these Chinese kung-fu masters. Additionally, a lot of them are merely acting like masters, which is why modern fighters are testing them as imposters.
The term "internal martial arts" first appeared in Huang Zongxi's 1669 Epitaph for Wang Zhengnan. Theclassification of the internal martial arts with the indigenous Chinese Daoism and of the external martial arts with the foreign Buddhism of Shaolin-and the Manchu Qing Dynasty to which Huang Zongxi was opposed-was an act of political defiance rather than one of technical classification. Later Sun Lutang invented his own definition of internal. Xingyi was not created by Yue Fei, it was Ji Jike. Baguazhang was not created by Dong Haichuan, but used to be called Bapanzhang and was not based on the Yijing originally. The circle walking was also added later by Cheng Tinghua Tai chi was *not* created by the mythological figure Zhang Sanfeng, but by Chen Wangting in Chen Villiage. The myth of Zhang Sanfeng was created by the cosplayers at Wudang because they have no history of their own
@@learnchinesenow Henning, Stanley (Autumn-Winter 1994). "Ignorance, Legend and Taijiquan" (PDF). Journal of the Chenstyle Taijiquan Research Association of Hawaii. Xingyi origin by Hai Yang, renowned Xingyi master living in Canada, grandfather was a student of Xue Dian, and corresponded with students of Li Cunyi, Zhang Zhaodong who also taught him Baguazhang and was technically a student of Dong Haichuan, but learned from Cheng Tinghua because Dong was too old. -Correspondence with linage holding students in short. - Tai chi, lack of historical evidence from wudang and Sanfeng, strong evidence from chen village. Correspondence with Chen Fake's lineage.
Well made video for mass audience having only passing curiosity about 'mysterious' Eastern Martial Arts. Though aside from certain entertainment value has little to offer, being a typical mix of some facts, common media myths, unverified information spiced up by not related to the subject clips from movies, etc. That even includes history of Sun Lu Tang life itself, not to mention any attempt to highlight true reasons why he even studied three arts and what is the nature of the Tai Chi style he created or what/why he taught later in his life. Hopefully, it will not be taken as more than that. Sun Lu Tang indeed was a prominent master and interesting person but hardly the one making 'greatest contribution' to the Chinese Martial Arts, clearly not reaching the heights of his teachers in either of three arts. And while Sun style is a well known Tai Chi style in China and is considered one of 5 Tai Chi jewels (as has quite distinct from other styles features, being in essence a mix of Wu style and Hsing Yi), its the least popular, as well.
actually there are a few more internal styles but they are not as popular shaolin has a few but they dont demonstrate etc but xingyi ba is similar to xingyi quan . but the most popular style otger then the three is dachenquan created by wang xianzai who was the nephew of Guo yu shen have you heard of it ?
Thank you, LCN, for an excellent video on Sun Lutan. There must be more tales of his exploits(facts or fiction) on this legendary man. I could listen to this( many others as well) all day long. ✌🏼 & 🫸
The Grand Master of the oldest and original pre-form of 'Tai Chi' is in Vancouver BC Canada. I mean the old secret royal style that historically was only taught to the royal family of china. Can you name him?
@@KelGhuJust have some scientific studies that measure whatever practitioner we can find. I guess that would make it “proven”. Guess that is what he meant.
You forget to mentions that North America has some amazing PIE there is APPLE PIE, BLUE BERRY PIE, STARWBERRY PIE, and BEEF PIES and my favorite PIE is BANANA PIE, and all others Fruit PIES.. Chinese PIE is good for Self-defence.. But NORTH AMERICA PIE is excellent for food
That's not correct. The lady featured in the video is Sun Shurong, daughter of Sun Cunzhou, this one being Sun Lutang's son. So yes, she is Sun's grandaughter. Maybe you take her for Sun Jianyun mistakenly.
Well…good linguistics. When in lived China…for a long time in Shanghai…there were only two people about,, who had the real thing…weight lifting, jogging, I would suggest for most people….but the real thing is rarely ever taught and once its developed..takes about 2 years….the weight lifters and joggers cant really touch you…after that, they can be thrown fairly easy. Being fast with your hands is another animal ….or skill to be added…but also starts to come if you add that as a different training element to the core method…. 形意，太极，八卦，xingyi, taiji, bagua all have the same core method in the beginning…but there are other variants on this method that can be very strenuous and challenging. Never seen anyone in youtube land ever teach it. Not martial man, rasmus, etc, their good….but its not the core method of internal fighting styles. Rasmus comes close
Thanks for your videos. I'm a 64-year-old male. Started Martial Arts training from the age of 13. I've trained in Karate, Judo, Indonesian Silat, 40 years of Qigong, some Wing Chun, and currently training Sun Lutang's system of Taiji, Xingyi and Bagua in China. I'll be going through the discipleship ceremony later this month. I'm training towards completing all three systems in order to become a lineage holder. I've also met with Sun Lutang's granddaughter and great granddaughter in recent months.
Amazing and Bless so awesome to accomplish so much especially Sun Lu Tang’s System👍 Holding Xing Yi stance or Chi Ball stance for 1.5 to 2 hours have you reached that pinnacle? Again Bless to ALL you have Mastered👍
That's really cool
So cool! I'm also living in China, I'm in Guangzhou and Foshan. Can I add your wechat? lol... I'm practicing Qigong every day and practicing on my wooden dummy, however i'm just learning from UA-cam and its very difficult to follow a screen, because I keep mixing up left and right side movements. On weekends I practice baji quan in the city. I'm having trouble finding a good teacher for exactly what i'm looking for though. Do you think you can help me find some resources?
You are the MAN!!
@@patnmelpharr8481 Thank you for your message. So far I've finished learning the Taiji system. However, mastering it will take some more years. I've also completed the 8 different hand movements for circle walk in Bagua and the five elements of Xingyi Quan. I'm getting better at maintaining the Xingyi stance of "San Ti Shi," but could use more refinement, I'm sure. Over the years, I've managed to practice Zhang Zhuang or the Qi Ball stance for 30-60 minutes. Never more than that.
So happy that you're able to speak the names in accurate pronunciation. Bravo!
His Chinese is excellent! Mine is a long term work in progress.
(Bless the algorithm.)
All the best!
Thanks a wonderful insight Sun Lutang - a master of 3 internal chinese martial art soft but explosive fighting styles.
This was fascinating! I have practiced Wing Chun and Jun Fan Gung Fu/Jeet Kune Do for 25 years, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu for 15, and Atienza Kali at a beginner level. Also some Muay Thai and I have been beginning Judo. I have also learned some Chi Kung exercises. As I have gotten older, mediation and internal martial arts have really begun to interest me. I have just started learning Tai Chi and have definitely noticed the therapeutic & rejuvenative properties of it. Amazing that Sun Lu Tang mastered all 3 internal arts though! A true gung fu master & someone to admire & look up to!
What's your opinion of internal martial arts now compared to other arts?
Im so happy you've done this. Its been about two years since i requested this i think.
Chinese martial arts are Indian.
The highest level of martial arts is not about competing for superiority, but to have the ambition to save the people and the world.
To refine this answer, as Shaolin contains both Kung Fu, Qigong and Zen, the pinnacle is to realise your own Buddha-nature and become a fully enlightened being. Wudang has a similar path with the goal to become a Daoist Immortal which Zhang San Feng achieved.
Don't need your brand of 'saving'.
thank you
@@JACK_TheAllSeeingEye Clearly you do.
You are a fantastic teacher and your Chinese is impeccable. I love your videos
Great videos, as a history buff and martial artist I love these videos.
The histroy in this video is completely off.
The term "internal martial arts" first appeared in Huang Zongxi's 1669 Epitaph for Wang Zhengnan. Theclassification of the internal martial arts with the indigenous Chinese Daoism and of the external martial arts with the foreign Buddhism of Shaolin-and the Manchu Qing Dynasty to which Huang Zongxi was opposed-was an act of political defiance rather than one of technical classification.
Later Sun Lutang invented his own definition of internal.
Xingyi was not created by Yue Fei, it was Ji Jike.
Baguazhang was not created by Dong Haichuan, but used to be called Bapanzhang and was not based on the Yijing originally. The circle walking was also added later by Cheng Tinghua
Tai chi was not created by the mythological figure Zhang Sanfeng, but by Chen Wangting in Chen Villiage. The myth of Zhang Sanfeng was created by the cosplayers at Wudang because they have no history of their own
In his steps, I have practiced and taught Tai Chi Chuan, Hsing-I Chuan and Pa Kwa Chang for 55 years. Deeply influenced by Sun Lu Tang and Gia Fu Feng, I trained with the families of the founders. Yes, Wu De is fundamental for the Nei Chia martial artist.
Thanks for sharing!
Do you have any resources in China where I can practice some martial arts? I'm currently living in Guangzhou
@@danouski Hello dear friend: I am happy that you like to practice Martial Arts. I left China for South Korea a few years ago. Currently, I share my time between France and Mexico. I am sure you will find great experts willing to teach their styles in Guangzhou. Do you have any preferences about styles? Good Luck and Long Life.
Start with the books of Robert W. Smith like Chinese Boxing Masters and Methods then his books where he collaborated with his student Allen Pittman. Google ‘NAMT 2012 avec Allen Pittman’ for a brief demo of hsing-I and Bagua.
Where did you learn the Sun systems and who was your Shifu...?
stop mixing pinyin and wade giles
Incredible. So thankfull for your effort to educate us on these aspects of Martial Arts.
Thanks! Best regards!
saw my practiced style Ba Gua Zhang and cheered lol.
What an amazing journey through history.
Yi Quan, Liuhebafa, Ziranmen, Bak Fu Pai, Baji Quan, Tong Bei Quan,... are also Chinese internal martial arts.
Also, the Japanese internal martial art of Aikido.
Wow, I like to hear and watch videos of these lesser known Chinese internal arts. Thanks.
Pi Gua Chuan, Pao Chui, Yi Quan, and a few others. Back ~150-200 years ago when internal body mechanics was the new hotness there was a LOT Of innovation and cross-fertilization employing the new technology
Not to mention fend shou, wujiquan, wudangquan, and emeiquan.
The term "internal martial arts" first appeared in Huang Zongxi's 1669 Epitaph for Wang Zhengnan. Theclassification of the internal martial arts with the indigenous Chinese Daoism and of the external martial arts with the foreign Buddhism of Shaolin-and the Manchu Qing Dynasty to which Huang Zongxi was opposed-was an act of political defiance rather than one of technical classification.
Later Sun Lutang invented his own definition of internal.
Xingyi was not created by Yue Fei, it was Ji Jike.
Baguazhang was not created by Dong Haichuan, but used to be called Bapanzhang and was not based on the Yijing originally. The circle walking was also added later by Cheng Tinghua
Tai chi was not created by the mythological figure Zhang Sanfeng, but by Chen Wangting in Chen Villiage. The myth of Zhang Sanfeng was created by the cosplayers at Wudang because they have no history of their own
Thank you for featuring my Shifu Sun Wanrong in her grandfather Sun Lutang's story.
Thank you for this information. Oddly enough, years ago in the last centry I read two of the Master's Manuals, and investiged on intergarating still, movement and technique into smooth quiet motions...thank you, it is time to retrance my lost history.
As Shaolin contains both Kung Fu, Qigong and Zen, the pinnacle of this tradition is to realise your own Buddha-nature and become a fully enlightened being. Wudang has a similar path with the goal to become Daoist Immortal which Zhang San Feng achieved.
shaolin has no history, and was not founded by bodhidharma.
martial arts do not teach you about buddha nature. the tathagatagarbha sutras do. Although they can also be interpreted as contradicting dependent origination
It's actually really interesting how the Wai Jia Quan (External) and Nei Jia Quan (Internal) dichotomy first emerged. It actually had more of a socio-political conotation.
Wai Jia Quan were often used to refer to arts rooted in Buddhist philosophies and teachings. Buddhism was considered the "foreign" religion brought from India, hence why they were deemed External styles.
Conversely, Nei Jia Quan was used to refer to styles drawing on Daoist philosophy and teaching. Since Taoism was considered the native religion, those styles were labeled Internal.
Source: Meir Shahar. The Shaolin Monastery : History, Religion, and the Chinese Martial Arts. Honolulu, University Of Hawai’i Press, 2011.
I would add this from really living in the mainland and meeting some of the best and competing in private areas with other arts of all sorts. All of them are external…..you have to make you your taiji, xingyi, or bagua internal. They all start off external. Im saying to give insight because i know what it is to wonder at these differences of internal and external,,,,word semantics of 内家neijia….simply means in the family…passed down methods. You dont have to sit in meditation or be religious at all. I tell you. You get it. Thats the reality. Maybe have the student swear by a code or religious element. Do some head knocking or 拜吃as ritual to signify lineage.Budhist, daoist,,,whatever…the teacher likes you…he teaches you…you got a lot of money…he teaches. In the past not always, but its pretty much what goes on these days. Yeah there is qi but its more the byproduct or result if proper training. Many teachers never even mention the word. I guy always talking about chi…he doesnt know. He’s just imagening….and if he’s got his hair tied back in a bonnet…go the other way…he’s fantasizing…reading books..he doesnt know. I say this to save you agony and maybe streamline the learning curve.
The term "internal martial arts" first appeared in Huang Zongxi's 1669 Epitaph for Wang Zhengnan. The classification of the internal martial arts with the indigenous Chinese Daoism and of the external martial arts with the foreign Buddhism of Shaolin-and the Manchu Qing Dynasty to which Huang Zongxi was opposed-was an act of political defiance rather than one of technical classification.
@@Purwapada applaud your research. It is correct. However in modern chinese usage among lineage holders it means family taught. Neijia…in the loop….in the click….in the family. Using the term neijia among real nejia practitioners…is almost non existant. We are aware of it….like saying your working the inner side of your body or conditioning it…….the teacher gives you the stuff passed through the family line. …but almost never use the term neijia itself in daily talk.What is usually referred to …..is indoor disciple or beginner 入门第子….in plain English we would just say he’s so and so’s student. That was the daily reality. Like using the word Qi. Nobody who had the real thing ever used it, to the best of my knowledge ,,,unless they were lost or they simply didnt want to share the information of how they did what they did. I saw my teacher do it once. We were in people’s park demonstrating. You could say the term neijia as its used today in china is kind of like using the word aiki in Japanese. Its not from the art called aikido. It was always out there for centuries. Its a generic term for using a training principle taught in private instruction. Anyway hope that helps in understanding some of the realities in plain language…and every day cultural use.
❤❤❤yah love your video,ive read about Sun Lu Tang history about his kung fu arts...indeed he's amazing mastered the 3 styles of the srts...incredible indeed...🎉🎉
ThankYou For The Guidence To Sun LuTang
Another Marshall art video, let’s go
Both Hsing-i and Ba-gua traditional practitioners did a ton of weight training and heavy bag work plus using all kinds of odd tools to increase strength, mobility, flexibility, etc. Using only chi is a myth. Robert W Smith was very clear about this.
Qi is not a myth. It is just not what you think it is as it is an umbrella for so many different things.
And that guy you cited is no reference to making such an erroneous claim.
Very educational. Fascinating. The Chinese are light years ahead of ALL cultures. I’m a Westerner - American - and I love my country. But there is no way the U.S. or any other country will beat the mental discipline of the Chinese people.
Love these! Do one on Lu Songgao/Xinyiliuhequan!
Thank you very much. I love this video and contents, and you are a very good story teller. ❤
I studied with Wong, Ark-yuey. He was reported to be one of the few who knew the 5 Meridian Tai Chi sets. I never learned them. He taught them to only one person I know of.
he's full of it, and taking you for a ride.
Learn actual history of taiji and you wont be pulled in by these con artists.
5:55 Bēng Quán goes backward in the cycle of seasons. Just a theory, but getting hit with a fist holding the big bang sounds like a bad time. 😂😂😂
Thanks. Great content
Hi. I like your videos. I had the privilege of learning Yang Tai Chi from Fu Sheng Yuan and two of his disciples, Paul Brown and Lorne Wilson. Master Fu left China in the 80s and moved to Perth in Western Australia to further promote Tai Chi. He was met by the Australian Prime Minister Bob Hawke on arrival and was considered a Chinese Treasure. He linage was from Yang Lu Chan. His father was Fu Zhong Wen who was the disciple of Yang Chengfu. Both of these people were accomplished masters that are worth a look at. Cheers
I love your videos! So informative and enjoyable. When are we getting a video on Yuè Fēi? Or one on Yáng Lù Chán? 😊
Martial Morality eventually reflects Cultural and social interaction between humans and the path mankind takes.
many ppl takes this for granted in this universe, they don't see this or understand the consequences.
But this the reason why many non asian ppl thinks China will start a war.
But a real Martial Artist will never do that, because martial morality influenced many ethnic Han Chinese to NOT do that, or else even Sworn brother won't forgive you.
Though CCP is technically a western invention, you could only blame Marxism itself.
Well done, a true scholar🙏
Great video. One could argue that Wing Chun was the internal style that evolved out of Shaolin.
Awesome. Shivers. Love the virtue talk
What about; Wu' Me'i & Feng Da'ode'? Sifu 🙏
Thank you Byron. Another excellent martial arts video as usual! As many of your viewers I am also a student and lineage holder of the Three Treasures. Knowing their teacher considers himself to be not much more than an older student, some of my own students presented Sun's book on Pa Kua Ch'ang for my consideration and erudition. And I was thrilled and told them as much. However, after two years I came to the conclusion that it is not an easy book to understand. As you must know most everything in it is couched in terms only a scholar of the I-Ching would recognize, and so, at this time I have had to set this work aside until some future date when I might glean a key to its understanding. However I feel confident that Sun's book on Hsing Yi Ch'uan will be much easier to grasp. Any suggestions?
BTW. I had forgotten about Sun's early attempt to flee this mortal coil, his rescue, and subsequent acceptance the other teachers in our own lineage. The last part of his life, spending the years in Taoist meditation and presumably obtaining enlightenment was also unknown to me. It is heartwarming to know that other kung-fu men have used the boxing Way to find the inner path to the Wuji. All the same in contemporary times those of us who are doing so must be some sort of anomaly. To my brethren, those pilgrims on this path, let me say, Do not be discouraged. Keep a clear and focused intention in your training and be sincere in your practices. Do not overlook Jam Jhong and seated meditation. The eight limbs of yoga has certainly deepened my understanding and progress. Thanks again.
Keep practice, train for life.
Laoshr #60
Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
"...My martial art has no name, no form , no rivals, I'm my own enemy..."
At 7:45, the first character in the script has no body. 🤣🤣🤣
Ba gua Zhang is the child of 12 Ermei Zhang ( A Daoist system very similar to Ba Gua.) Ther exists on Ermei Mountain a Daoist Temple dedicated to 12 Ermei Zhang. Sergio Laderola discovered this during his search for the roots of Wing Chun, when he traveled near Yong Chun Village at Ermei Mountain.
I follow his philosophy since childhood; a great man.
Been trying be get to this clip for a few weeks now. Sun LuTang' s creation of Sun Tai Chi Chuan/Sun Tai Gek Kuen was quite an accomplishment. Sun Shifu/Sifu system while very powerful isn't as popular as Yang style Tai Chi/Tai Gek. Here in the Nation's Capital of Washington DC, their was a Sun Style practitioner teacher not far from Capitol Hill. The school unfortunately closed it's doors within about 2 years. From the best of my knowledge their is a practitioner of Sun Tai Chi/Tai Gek named Saleem Alamudeen, who runs
Lam Tang Kung Fu Academy located in Lexington, South Carolina. His lineage cones from his late Master, Kwong Wing Lam Sifu, who himself learned the system from the daughter of Sun LuTang , GM Sun Jianyun.
Let's make Sun a movie since Ip Man has ended.
I second this! It's appalling to me that this hasn't ever come up
Sun Lutang is the strongest martial artist in China
Yang chengfu beat him in friendly contest…they were friends…fuzhensong was equal at least to Yang…in friendly pushhands he scored on him and Yang complained it was because he used his bagua footwork.
We dont know who the best was….some guys were not even known…starvation, war…killed many great artists
🙏🏻✊🏻🙌🏻🤝🏻👍🏻 GREAT JOB MY FRIEND AND FAMILY OF BUILDING CREDIT
Love this. Thank you so much. I love Tai Chi.
Wang Zhuang Hongs Water Taiji also has all three styles in it.
I have practice for drunken snake style and red handed fist technique. -Commish
精通内家三大拳真正的武术家，本人对咏春拳有点认识，近年来对八卦掌漸感兴趣据报道些拳种对各种健康問题都有很好的疗效。
Please enlighten me on the name of the 宝剑 that was buried with Sun Lutang 师傅. Many thanks.
Nice video ❤❤❤
Awesome video man,can you do a video on the lineage of fu jow pai please 😊
Credit shifu. Great video on Sun Lu Tang history. You showed a clip!of a movie about Xin Yi Quan. Can you tell me the name of that film? It looks like a really good one.
All names should be in the bottom left corner, unless we missed one
Amazing thanks for that help and support for the smart course on point Buda AM the sun dragon will is very important Levels
May you please do a story of Chiyou?
That is a great idea for a future video!
@learnchinesenow hope it will be soon. 😁
It was heartbreaking to witness how contemporary martial arts (MMA) were destroying these Chinese kung-fu masters. Additionally, a lot of them are merely acting like masters, which is why modern fighters are testing them as imposters.
What if you do External & Internal Kung Fu
Great! Thanks!
Sun.was.one.of.few.can.wright
A.lot.of.great.kung.fu.fighters
Back.than.cant.wright❤❤
The term "internal martial arts" first appeared in Huang Zongxi's 1669 Epitaph for Wang Zhengnan. Theclassification of the internal martial arts with the indigenous Chinese Daoism and of the external martial arts with the foreign Buddhism of Shaolin-and the Manchu Qing Dynasty to which Huang Zongxi was opposed-was an act of political defiance rather than one of technical classification.
Later Sun Lutang invented his own definition of internal.
Xingyi was not created by Yue Fei, it was Ji Jike.
Baguazhang was not created by Dong Haichuan, but used to be called Bapanzhang and was not based on the Yijing originally. The circle walking was also added later by Cheng Tinghua
Tai chi was *not* created by the mythological figure Zhang Sanfeng, but by Chen Wangting in Chen Villiage. The myth of Zhang Sanfeng was created by the cosplayers at Wudang because they have no history of their own
How do you know?
@@learnchinesenow Henning, Stanley (Autumn-Winter 1994). "Ignorance, Legend and Taijiquan" (PDF). Journal of the Chenstyle Taijiquan Research Association of Hawaii.
Xingyi origin by Hai Yang, renowned Xingyi master living in Canada, grandfather was a student of Xue Dian, and corresponded with students of Li Cunyi, Zhang Zhaodong who also taught him Baguazhang and was technically a student of Dong Haichuan, but learned from Cheng Tinghua because Dong was too old.
-Correspondence with linage holding students in short.
- Tai chi, lack of historical evidence from wudang and Sanfeng, strong evidence from chen village.
Correspondence with Chen Fake's lineage.
Hsing-I animals move in 8 directions or really any direction based on defense or attack.
Well made video for mass audience having only passing curiosity about 'mysterious' Eastern Martial Arts. Though aside from certain entertainment value has little to offer, being a typical mix of some facts, common media myths, unverified information spiced up by not related to the subject clips from movies, etc. That even includes history of Sun Lu Tang life itself, not to mention any attempt to highlight true reasons why he even studied three arts and what is the nature of the Tai Chi style he created or what/why he taught later in his life. Hopefully, it will not be taken as more than that. Sun Lu Tang indeed was a prominent master and interesting person but hardly the one making 'greatest contribution' to the Chinese Martial Arts, clearly not reaching the heights of his teachers in either of three arts. And while Sun style is a well known Tai Chi style in China and is considered one of 5 Tai Chi jewels (as has quite distinct from other styles features, being in essence a mix of Wu style and Hsing Yi), its the least popular, as well.
well said
was there any movies about him since hes such a prominent figure in martial arts?
Good share, thanks
actually there are a few more internal styles but they are not as popular shaolin has a few but they dont demonstrate etc but xingyi ba is similar to xingyi quan . but the most popular style otger then the three is dachenquan created by wang xianzai who was the nephew of Guo yu shen have you heard of it ?
Thank you, LCN, for an excellent video on Sun Lutan. There must be more tales of his exploits(facts or fiction) on this legendary man. I could listen to this( many others as well) all day long. ✌🏼 & 🫸
happy early Christmas i am going to learn sanda/sanshou
Thankful
I want all of you to check out Wu Gulun's shaolin boxing, & youll see where taichi boxing comes from.
The Grand Master of the oldest and original pre-form of 'Tai Chi' is in Vancouver BC Canada.
I mean the old secret royal style that historically was only taught to the royal family of china.
Can you name him?
Just be careful on that shen yun performing art because it's connected to falun gong. Good video as usual
It's not.
He could have never kept up with the horse running after it...
Awesome!
Was the name Sun Wukong inspired by Sun Lutang?
Loved it. ❤😂😢😮😅😊
Sailing also cultivates Chi. All Chinese Martial Arts do.
Imagine if you blend this stuff with mma
You can take mma to the next level
The late Kwong Wing Lam Sifu 💕taught Sun Jia Tai Chi! In the U.S. 😬
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So its 4 styles or 2 styles of xing yi quan
Xing Yi is one style. Maybe two different branches.
(ㆁωㆁ) Happy Holidays 🎉🎄
Now it's time to do a video abuot the legendary Guo Yunshen, please realize it
I always felt it’s unproven … 内家拳 … but it makes for good stories … 接招!
How so?
@@KelGhuJust have some scientific studies that measure whatever practitioner we can find. I guess that would make it “proven”. Guess that is what he meant.
siempre q veo un video de estos , termino buscando muchas películas
Wing Chun 🙏🏼💪🏼
Yeah. But is there anything that actually works?
Enjoy traditional Kung Fu styles
شكرالك وتحيالك شمال افريقيا جزائري
You forget to mentions that North America has some amazing PIE there is APPLE PIE, BLUE BERRY PIE, STARWBERRY PIE, and BEEF PIES and my favorite PIE is BANANA PIE, and all others Fruit PIES.. Chinese PIE is good for Self-defence..
But NORTH AMERICA PIE is excellent for food
Hyu yuan jia master of all time
That is his daughter not his grandaughter doing Sun taijiquan.
That's not correct. The lady featured in the video is Sun Shurong, daughter of Sun Cunzhou, this one being Sun Lutang's son.
So yes, she is Sun's grandaughter.
Maybe you take her for Sun Jianyun mistakenly.
I got that from the Sun style official website, it says it is Sun Shurong (granddaughter)
Лунь Су Тан.
Sometimes I'd be like: with what shrooms are some feeding the animals...? Besides other routines -_-
Goods
Great Kung Fu Con man from Chinese History
A generous Man .
cool
Liked and shared.
If chinese martial arts is so great, why not being used in ufc?
omg what an iconnnn
The highest level of martial art is RUN 😅
Well…good linguistics. When in lived China…for a long time in Shanghai…there were only two people about,, who had the real thing…weight lifting, jogging, I would suggest for most people….but the real thing is rarely ever taught and once its developed..takes about 2 years….the weight lifters and joggers cant really touch you…after that, they can be thrown fairly easy. Being fast with your hands is another animal ….or skill to be added…but also starts to come if you add that as a different training element to the core method…. 形意，太极，八卦，xingyi, taiji, bagua all have the same core method in the beginning…but there are other variants on this method that can be very strenuous and challenging. Never seen anyone in youtube land ever teach it. Not martial man, rasmus, etc, their good….but its not the core method of internal fighting styles. Rasmus comes close