every time I travel ANY route,, my bag is loaded and reloaded..EVERY time I get home I revaluate what I used and what I didnt use... I write a list EVERY time I hike..coming and going. your ideaa are top notch,, good work.
Adding to your 10 are these: Failure to (11) appropriately stock the endpoint of your bug-out trek, (12) adjust BOB contents several times during a year to account for weather linked to your local seasons, (13) include a spare set of eyeglasses if you can't function without them, (14) include the medicines you MUST take every normal day, (15) guarantee the BOB follows you around in the course of a day [especially important in earthquake territory]. A 16th mistake is to turn packing the BOB into a silly game, as in "Let's see how much I can stuff into an Altoids tin." Buy the tool that works, not the compromised tool that fits into an arbitrarily tight space. A 17th mistake -- possibly the biggest of all -- is failure to dispassionately list in order of likelihood the events that would inspire a bug-out. It's "fun" to imagine yourself Rambo dealing with invading terrorists, but the practical truth is you're more likely going to have to deal with "natural" disasters such as earthquakes, fire, and flood. As for those who refuse to train for a hike that takes 72 hours, they should practice riding a bicycle with a pack on their back. Cycling to your bug-out destination will be way faster and way less tiring. Furthermore, if you're the least bit afraid that appearing well-equipped will make you a target, remember that a target moving at 20-ish MPH is harder to hit than one that's walking/running away from unsavory characters.
+Raphael Frommer Great points; I think the Altoids and Rambo points are especially valid. I think there are so many people on the internet who pack and carry an Altoids kit and then think that it somehow makes them a Bushcraft Rambo... Thanks for watching and for the comments...
Crystal clear, well thought out, impressive. You're right about being able to carry stuff for 20+ miles. I hike very regularly but took gear advice from people and I quickly figured out the bad advice (I also realised many of these ''experts'' drove to their site and didn't walk more than 100 yards). Thanks for the vid!!
I agree with what you were saying. I thought that my first aid kit was fine for a long term bug out until I cut my finger badly. Band aids start disappearing quickly when you need two per day. I did a video the night I cut myself as well as a small review on the small kit I had. I now have an upgraded kit that needs reorganizing so perhaps I will soon do an updated video.
This is one good way to do a Bob setup for all 4 seasons put the things for each into a Jim bag set it next to your Bob bag so you can change out quickly . Things like winter you need water treatment tablets not filters they will freeze and crack . You got to have really good quality gear for extreme cold temperatures and having a super small tent double wall helps keep in your heat but still let's some moisture out .always fun to wake up with the entire inside of your tent with frost snow floating all around inside and all over your sleeping bag it's hard to get out of a tosty warm bag . Having hand warmers and foot warmers help inside the sleeping bag but if they don't get moved around they kinda quit working.
All valid and great points that I would tell people who ask because I do them too already. I especially agree with the point of knowing your gear. I use mine as often as possible. When I'm out just fishing I'll use my stove and a ferro-rod or my fire piston to start my cook fire, so I will be proficient if the actual need arises.Thanks for the video.
I would have to agree with 95% of this video. the thing is you are always learning what to do and what not to do. I started I was clueless and packed a lot of stuff I did not need and my time in the Army helped me realize that a lot of carp you pack you will never use so I base my bags off of practical stuff that I will use in every day to sustain life. High speed low drag good way to point out you wanna move fast keep gear to a healthy weight so you can move quickly and stealth like.. good video. One thing is about being prepared is that you need to always be learning.
Another thing that you need to consider is make sure that you have a fresh supply of prescription meds if you need them. I keep my meds in a see through plastic zipper bag so I can see the ones I need. ALSO, Pack an extra pair of GLASSES INSTEAD OF CONTACTS.Contacts are hard to disinfect in the wild and are too easy to get lost or broken. IF you can do without the glasses except for reading, ditch the glasses entirely and go with a credit card sized Fresnel lens instead. It will magnify what you're reading and act as a solar firestarter, not a bad trade off when it weighs almost nothing and takes up almost no space
Good vid man. I notice that most bug out bags on UA-cam have no shelter, but have 5 knives and sharpener. I've seen a pistol with ammo and a backup gun packed in. Nearly all bug out bags have brand new unused equipment with the tags still on. The only way to prove a bob is to use it and you will know if its to heavy or I'll equipped.
I think you're pretty spot on with one exception. I would approach a BOB (bug out bag) much differently than an INCH (I'm never coming home) bag. I don't think the two are interchangeable. For example, I would have a heavy hauler type bag such as an EMR from Kifaru, or any quality external frame pack in the 3000 to 5000c.i. range. My BOB would be significantly lighter and more pedestrian looking. Just my humble opinion. Good vid. You're quite a bit more articulate than most others on the topic.
I'm new to this edc or bob. stuff. but in have to honestly say this is one of the best videos I've seen. when I started I thought I didn't have enough stuff in my bag. but after seeing this video. I want to say I'm good to go. thanks for the info
Like that you spelled like it is, some people really do have to many redundancies and like you said things that are not applicable to your specific location. Best common sense video!
Good review man... I agree on what you say. I live in Yellowknife Canada so I have 2 BOB'S one for winter and one for the other 3 seasons... It gets damn cold here hahahah. No sense having to swap gear in and out of one bag that never made sense to me.... And a haversack withe the 10C'S I have some good stuff from Precision Rifle Supply and from TAD I have redundant items in each kit.... In a Bug out situation I would carry the bag needed for the weather at hand and my haversack as well...
I think everything you said is very valid bro. I think it's a great list of DON'T's for sure! My bag feels too heavy. But it's got everything in it that's a necessity I think... But then again, my bug out location is about 10 miles from here. LOL I don't need a whole lot. LOL
Myself I spent the most money in my tent and sleeping system. And that is truly where I save a lot of weight I know most wouldn't spend the money I have . My Tent Terra Nova Laser ultra 1 on the scale between 18 to 20 ounces depends on the type of stakes I bring. Air mattress thermalrest X light regular 12 oz , sleeping bag ig bucks Zpacks 10 deg 900 fill . But I still feel that it's worth finding a ultralight tarp 10x 12 is a really great size but just something really light to make a work stageing area to cook under in thunderstorms ect. Let's you get in tent in the rain east along with a piece of Tivac to sit on and entry to your tent . Keeping mud ect out .
Allot of people give this exact advice. The sleeping system is where you can make a huge difference in weight and where you recharge your body! Great post!
Humm free standing tent side entry if you can. My tent is not but it takes 6 stakes they are extremely ultralight and small you wouldn't believe. But I like most mini groundhogs as well. I have a second tent a terra Nova solar competition 1 that is 2 lbs 2 oz and can be used with 3 stakes it's about as good as it gets bomb proof tent. With attention to making it as light as possible.
I agree 100% with everything you have said here. It made me laugh when you mentioned the lint roller - that video sticks in my mind too for "how to spend a $2000 dollars on a useless BOB" - I think he even had an air compressor, but only a SOL bivvy bag for a shelter. The worst part is all the people saying what an amazing bag it is. They are just attracted to the gadgets and toys like moths round a flame. IMO, I think anyone who has little or no hiking experience and is contemplating a 72 hour BOB, would be well served by watching videos showing what section hikers carry for the AT or similar. Probably 2/3 of what they carry is about shelter, sleeping gear and clothing. The remaining 1/3 is water, food and cooking. It's boring, but that is what you NEED, not lint rollers, solar powered calculators, compressors and tire repair kits. It's about getting from A to B with a backpack. Videos made by people who do a lot of getting from A to B with a backpack, are far, far more useful than videos made by Walter Mitty's with a credit card and not much of a clue.
TheSmokinApe Absolutely they do. It starts with a good pair of boots and goes from there. Even the first aid kit, foot powder, moleskin and kinesio tape is what you need to keep your feet in good shape, not 3 lbs of trauma kit for imaginary gunshot wounds, or dental repair putty - presumably in case your teeth fall out with all the sudden physical exercise.
Just a note: A lint roller can be used to remove poisonous/burning substances from the surface of the skin safely and effectively. I work in EMS and lint rollers are actually indicated for treatment of patients with toxic substances on the surface of their skin and this is written out in our protocols. We even carry a lint roller on our ambulance. Now, I'm not saying that this means you should make space for a lint roller in your BOB because a situation like that is very uncommon and can be taken care of by other means in a true survival situation. But I'm just stating that there ARE possible uses other than getting dog hair off your shirt.
+TheSmokinApe I see. Like I said, it's still pretty impractical to have a lint roller in a bug out bag. I honestly can't think of a good use for one unless you accidentally spilled bad chemical pesticide or fertilizer powder on yourself while searching an old barn or something.
Man I completely agree, great video. Problem I have is my location is family land but very empty, no houses or people for miles but most concerning , no permanent shelter built. Any suggestions for building a safe place or should I look for fellow minded people to have a safe location to meet up? I mean, combined skills are better then solo skills.
One big mistake I see people make is presuming they can get from point A to B in a certain number of days. This might be true now (although I bet not many have even tried this, most will be guessing) but if the situation is really bad then it could take a lot longer. I wouldn't be surprised if 72 hrs turns into 140 or 200 hrs in certain conditions. The 7 P's, Proper planning & preparation prevents piss poor performance. The best bug out video I have ever seen ( I wish I could find it again) was from a guy who's BOB gave him the option to live for a year in the wilderness, nothing fancy in there, all the things he had he gave great explanations for, he also had the knowledge to go with it too.
I have built several survival bags for myself but are not identical. One thing I have in my primary bag that I don't see in videos is a pair of mini vise grips. They can be a little heavy but have more than one use. A good pair is maybe 8 to 10 dollars and and are virtually indestructible. I prefer tools that offer multiple uses and redundancy in order to cut down on other items in bag. As far a flashlights or gear that uses batteries I use gear that only requires one type of battery such as AA so your don't have to pack multiple styles. Just my 2 cents.
I saw a chap carrying a sock full of peanut butter jars (three fit). Apparently its somewhat of a high calorie, low maintenance super food for survival, What are your thoughts on it?
CedricAda Gear and Outdoors I do think peanut butter is a great item for this. I'd also look at things like cliff bars that contain peanut butter and other good for you type stuff as well. Also there is a number of high calorie energy rich gels available. Thanks for the comments...
the one thing i do is make sure i have some kit on me personally, namely in my coat (denim, but i put a waterproof fleece over the top) perfect for uk weather (and grey man compliant), compass, maps (can be forced into pockets and not wreck said pockets), a 500ml bottle (bottle water type) which can be flattened a few times, but held in coat pocket, multi tools (i have a wingman and swiss army knife) covering pretty much everything on my belt, a lightweight (9g) spork (just in case), and a sawyer mini with bottle adapter and straw). other stuff i throw in a bum bag (small foldup cooker with some fuel), bic lighter, box of weatherproof matches, 2 wetfire packs, metal cup, energy bars, nutrition bars, emergency blanket (foil type, very compact) just basics, if i loose my main bag i have minimum backups.
I just found your channel. I just don't think ppl understand that weight is EVERYTHING. And do your homework get the best possible ultralight gear you can afford and like you said use it pack it on a weekend trip 10 miles first day boom packed out before dawn on the trail for 10 more miles . Use your filter system. The key is have a free standing tent super small and ultralight like 2.5 lbs and below in a color that blends in . Very important but free area to sleep .
but if your running, it may be 1kg of frying pan but after 30 mins its going to feel more like 10kg! an example to prove this... get a full glass of water, get its weight, then stand or walk round with it held out in front of you, arm straight, for 30 mins without stopping... the glass of water ends up feeling like a ton! now imagine that on your back........ then after 30 mins, your arm will hurt badly, and ill guess you'll get to 10 mins and stop. try it with the frying pan too... then you'll get it.
I agree, that's why I explained what I wanted to convey at the beginning of the video. If you "bug out" with no place to go you are essentially a refugee... in a scenario like that you need a long-term survival bag. Thanks for watching.
If you are going through the desert you don't need a wool blanket? Damn I sure wish I had mine when I got stranded in the desert out in Nevada last August. It dropped 40 degrees in 30 minutes....
these are good kits for a "thank god i have it kit", but thats really all it is. situations where you actually have to leave your vehicle behind or even your home, you better bring more with you then that. collapsible fishing pole with proper tackle is going to be much more needed then you think. leaving those things such as vehicle or house, chances are unlikely it will be both. in that situation, your state is screwed and so are you if you have to leave your home. a proper filteration and even water purifier capsuls (if thwy even work, i dont know) are good in case you do get sick, you will want good clean water. sawyer minis wont cut it, a proper camping water filter is going to be needed.
What I was saying is that your Bag should be able to support your bug out plan. I also said that I have seen instances where people have too many redundancies, water purification being one of them. I saw a video where someone had 6 different water filters, IMO that is too much. Right in the center of the video image is a fishing kit, I do think there is value in a fishing kit. What I don't see value in are goofy telescoping fishing poles that are cheaply made. Additionally, I would suggest have food in your pack and not relying on have the luxury to go fishing. The trek to your Bug Out Location should be made quickly, standing around fishing with your pocket fishing rod will slow you down. Hope this helps.
Nice Video. Can you list what you should have and should not have in a Bug out Bag? Please explain the items in the video. Keep them in the bag or not? etc. etc.. Thanks it would help bunched...
Toiletries; toothbrush, toothpaste, toilet-paper/wipes(im serious), foot-powder, soap, cleaning towels in some fashion, your medication, high-carbon knife and stainless steel knife. And for God's sake bring extra underwear.
Would you say that boot laces are too redundant, if you have paracord? One thing I never see anyone suggest is family photos. A photo can prove a relationship, and also help people find family members, or pets. I think your video was really good.
Some interesting points. It seems that a lot of them are opinions rather than absolute "don'ts". Different circumstances, experiences, and training determine the importance of the items people choose to place in their bug out bags. I see you comment (and critique) on a lot of UA-cam videos but outside of UA-cam what training and experiences do you use to draw conclusions about what shouldn't go into bug out bags? I know when I started prepping I was opinionated on everything because so and so said something different or because I felt it was common sense NOT to do something (like redundancies of items). But each new experience and training technique I learned the more I realized how little I actually knew.
BudgetBugout Glad to see you stop by the channel my friend. In this video, if it's not clear, all content is my opinion that I have formed by examining other peoples bags; none are absolute do or don'ts. I also said folks need to take their own circumstance into consideration. As for my experience and expertise, does it matter? I am not claiming to be an expert, like many other video makers often do… I am just a regular person. I am confused by your post, do you have an issue with the content of my video? Or are you upset that I posted on other videos? I believe that we all make mistakes and continue to learn, there isn't one person with all the answers. In this video I stated I am sure there mistakes with what I said, so please share what you can to make this a better learning experience for us...
As a girl, my bug out bag has a few extra items like a shewee, time of month supplies, lip balm, deodorant, toothpaste and toothbrush, hair brush and scrunchie. I was told a few months ago to look and act more like a guy in a bug out situation. I not really sure why or how this would help me, not really sure how to go about gray man stuff. Whatever that is.
Thanks Dean, it was just some thoughts I had collected over the years as I was putting together a bag. I think there is allot of goofy info out there and wanted to tip the scales a bit. Today I saw a video where a fella had 3 pairs of gloves, his bag weighed over 70lbs...
TheSmokinApe - Bugging out is serious. Great video's but to truly consider that situations have forced you from your home is serious business. I appreciated this video
Makes the point that there is no such thing as THE perfect S&G bag. Ultimately, factoring specific variables (local conditions) , the priority should be the abilty to be mobile and exist for 24-72 hours depending on objective.
Tree knifes is a good number in my opinion and a tomohawk head in case your 72 hours is delayed by natural or artificial means and on that point a way of procuring food
great video as usual. 99.9 percent of people don't even have a location to bug out too. it's better they stay their RAMBO but indoors. I actually got some US military grade claymores for home defense. shhhhh.
In a bug out you do not really need a solar panel to charge up your batteries if you are just trying to get from point A to point B, I know multi people that have folding solar panels. There is nothing wrong with solar panels but it comes back to that how much is your bag going to weight and how long does this bag have to last you. This is just what I think when it comes to the power aspect and if any one has something to argue or disagree with I would love to hear.
I think it depends on a few things; where you are going, what type of gear you have, how long the trip will take... Whatever you take / pack will be dependent on your specific plans...
Books weigh to much. You should be moving not reading. Books are not essential. If the book is a good survival book like the SAS one you should read it before you have to bug out.
Caleb Saville I think that's a fair point. I also think that reference material for thinks like wild edibles or medicinal plans or maybe a first aid book are a good idea as well. I agree that you move and not read... thanks for the comments...
Hi I always have discussions with the lads when we go out insisting that this is not a novel or a film! Gee, they bring everything imaginable… I always say: leave the cars 5 or 7 miles from the camping site… then walk with your gear… and I am sura those humungous packs will start shrinking at a awesome pace. For seasoned guys, it might be “ok” but for green-horns it gives them the feeling that everything is easy, there’s no cold, no hunger, no fatigue, no low morale… far from truth!!! I migh have strong opinions on going light, but surely the “batleships” won’t go very far nor fast enough…!
It's a good thing you're an expert! Hahhahah all that shit is still new in the package, get out and use that shit, the make a video and pretend like you know what you're talking about. Nice note taking though
And you absolutely do not need 3500 calories per person per day. Food is not a priority. MREs are bulky so please for the love of God do not waste have of your bag space with 3 MREs. If you ARE going to pack something, I'd suggest granola or ramen. I have a few packs of ramen. Small, lightweight, and can easily be prepared over a fire with just water and a canteen cup. But you can go without food for 3 weeks. I'd suggest you plan a bug out location that you know will provide food within the first few days of your arrival but don't get so hung up with packing MREs, super energy bars, Mountain House meals, etc. The normal human body has more than enough energy stores for a 3 day or less journey.
+Logan Thomas Yeah, I think I said that bugging out as defined for that video was hiking 10, 15, 20 miles per-day carrying a big ole bag moving as quickly as possible. While I suppose that you don't need food, as mentioned before I'd feel better having it...
+TheSmokinApe lol so how bout um nature toilet paper or any hygiene, if ur planning on bugging out long term without any hygiene u have a risk of an infection.
every time I travel ANY route,, my bag is loaded and reloaded..EVERY time I get home I revaluate what I used and what I didnt use... I write a list EVERY time I hike..coming and going. your ideaa are top notch,, good work.
thanks man!
Adding to your 10 are these: Failure to (11) appropriately stock the endpoint of your bug-out trek, (12) adjust BOB contents several times during a year to account for weather linked to your local seasons, (13) include a spare set of eyeglasses if you can't function without them, (14) include the medicines you MUST take every normal day, (15) guarantee the BOB follows you around in the course of a day [especially important in earthquake territory]. A 16th mistake is to turn packing the BOB into a silly game, as in "Let's see how much I can stuff into an Altoids tin." Buy the tool that works, not the compromised tool that fits into an arbitrarily tight space. A 17th mistake -- possibly the biggest of all -- is failure to dispassionately list in order of likelihood the events that would inspire a bug-out. It's "fun" to imagine yourself Rambo dealing with invading terrorists, but the practical truth is you're more likely going to have to deal with "natural" disasters such as earthquakes, fire, and flood.
As for those who refuse to train for a hike that takes 72 hours, they should practice riding a bicycle with a pack on their back. Cycling to your bug-out destination will be way faster and way less tiring. Furthermore, if you're the least bit afraid that appearing well-equipped will make you a target, remember that a target moving at 20-ish MPH is harder to hit than one that's walking/running away from unsavory characters.
+Raphael Frommer Great points; I think the Altoids and Rambo points are especially valid. I think there are so many people on the internet who pack and carry an Altoids kit and then think that it somehow makes them a Bushcraft Rambo... Thanks for watching and for the comments...
Crystal clear, well thought out, impressive. You're right about being able to carry stuff for 20+ miles. I hike very regularly but took gear advice from people and I quickly figured out the bad advice (I also realised many of these ''experts'' drove to their site and didn't walk more than 100 yards). Thanks for the vid!!
jelkel25 Cool man, glad you liked it... take care...
I agree with what you were saying. I thought that my first aid kit was fine for a long term bug out until I cut my finger badly. Band aids start disappearing quickly when you need two per day. I did a video the night I cut myself as well as a small review on the small kit I had. I now have an upgraded kit that needs reorganizing so perhaps I will soon do an updated video.
This is one good way to do a Bob setup for all 4 seasons put the things for each into a Jim bag set it next to your Bob bag so you can change out quickly . Things like winter you need water treatment tablets not filters they will freeze and crack . You got to have really good quality gear for extreme cold temperatures and having a super small tent double wall helps keep in your heat but still let's some moisture out .always fun to wake up with the entire inside of your tent with frost snow floating all around inside and all over your sleeping bag it's hard to get out of a tosty warm bag . Having hand warmers and foot warmers help inside the sleeping bag but if they don't get moved around they kinda quit working.
Great tip, thanks!
All valid and great points that I would tell people who ask because I do them too already. I especially agree with the point of knowing your gear. I use mine as often as possible. When I'm out just fishing I'll use my stove and a ferro-rod or my fire piston to start my cook fire, so I will be proficient if the actual need arises.Thanks for the video.
Dano Martinez Glad you liked it, thanks for the comments...
I would have to agree with 95% of this video. the thing is you are always learning what to do and what not to do. I started I was clueless and packed a lot of stuff I did not need and my time in the Army helped me realize that a lot of carp you pack you will never use so I base my bags off of practical stuff that I will use in every day to sustain life. High speed low drag good way to point out you wanna move fast keep gear to a healthy weight so you can move quickly and stealth like.. good video. One thing is about being prepared is that you need to always be learning.
Great point. I think that the continued learning is the most important aspect...
This video is the most thruthful and useful I've see so far. keep up your great work man.
Thanks man!
Another thing that you need to consider is make sure that you have a fresh supply of prescription meds if you need them. I keep my meds in a see through plastic zipper bag so I can see the ones I need. ALSO, Pack an extra pair of GLASSES INSTEAD OF CONTACTS.Contacts are hard to disinfect in the wild and are too easy to get lost or broken. IF you can do without the glasses except for reading, ditch the glasses entirely and go with a credit card sized Fresnel lens instead. It will magnify what you're reading and act as a solar firestarter, not a bad trade off when it weighs almost nothing and takes up almost no space
Great points!
Good vid man. I notice that most bug out bags on UA-cam have no shelter, but have 5 knives and sharpener. I've seen a pistol with ammo and a backup gun packed in. Nearly all bug out bags have brand new unused equipment with the tags still on. The only way to prove a bob is to use it and you will know if its to heavy or I'll equipped.
killertinytot Totally agree, thanks for watching and the comment...
I think you're pretty spot on with one exception. I would approach a BOB (bug out bag) much differently than an INCH (I'm never coming home) bag. I don't think the two are interchangeable. For example, I would have a heavy hauler type bag such as an EMR from Kifaru, or any quality external frame pack in the 3000 to 5000c.i. range. My BOB would be significantly lighter and more pedestrian looking. Just my humble opinion. Good vid. You're quite a bit more articulate than most others on the topic.
Great point, thanks for the comments and for watching...
One of the better tutorials on this subject I've seen. Good job.
George Wamser Awesome, glad you liked it...
Solid video, really great info. So useful I'm not even going to lower the tone with a cheap joke. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
ROFL... Thanks my European brother...
I'm new to this edc or bob. stuff. but in have to honestly say this is one of the best videos I've seen. when I started I thought I didn't have enough stuff in my bag. but after seeing this video. I want to say I'm good to go. thanks for the info
Awesome, glad it was helpful to you...
Like that you spelled like it is, some people really do have to many redundancies and like you said things that are not applicable to your specific location. Best common sense video!
***** Thanks man, glad you liked it!
Good review man... I agree on what you say. I live in Yellowknife Canada so I have 2 BOB'S one for winter and one for the other 3 seasons... It gets damn cold here hahahah. No sense having to swap gear in and out of one bag that never made sense to me.... And a haversack withe the 10C'S I have some good stuff from Precision Rifle Supply and from TAD I have redundant items in each kit.... In a Bug out situation I would carry the bag needed for the weather at hand and my haversack as well...
+Eric Rosbottom 2 bobs sounds like a pretty good idea, thanks for the heads up....
I think everything you said is very valid bro. I think it's a great list of DON'T's for sure! My bag feels too heavy. But it's got everything in it that's a necessity I think... But then again, my bug out location is about 10 miles from here. LOL I don't need a whole lot. LOL
hey man, thanks for the comment. I just think in some cases folks get carried away, like that feller with the lint roller....
Myself I spent the most money in my tent and sleeping system. And that is truly where I save a lot of weight I know most wouldn't spend the money I have . My Tent Terra Nova Laser ultra 1 on the scale between 18 to 20 ounces depends on the type of stakes I bring. Air mattress thermalrest X light regular 12 oz , sleeping bag ig bucks Zpacks 10 deg 900 fill . But I still feel that it's worth finding a ultralight tarp 10x 12 is a really great size but just something really light to make a work stageing area to cook under in thunderstorms ect. Let's you get in tent in the rain east along with a piece of Tivac to sit on and entry to your tent . Keeping mud ect out .
Allot of people give this exact advice. The sleeping system is where you can make a huge difference in weight and where you recharge your body! Great post!
Great video my friend. A lot of good ideas for my bug out bag. Thanks
M Coppola Glad you liked it, thanks for the comment...
Humm free standing tent side entry if you can. My tent is not but it takes 6 stakes they are extremely ultralight and small you wouldn't believe. But I like most mini groundhogs as well. I have a second tent a terra Nova solar competition 1 that is 2 lbs 2 oz and can be used with 3 stakes it's about as good as it gets bomb proof tent. With attention to making it as light as possible.
Hey packing music makes all the sense in the world, I refuse to leave home without it. I pack a spyderco pm2 and endura 4
Two great knives!
Winter you need a very big pack even when you have super ultralight gear you need the room for the extra stuff. You can still get one light weight.
That’s a good point, you bag will change with the season.
I agree 100% with everything you have said here. It made me laugh when you mentioned the lint roller - that video sticks in my mind too for "how to spend a $2000 dollars on a useless BOB" - I think he even had an air compressor, but only a SOL bivvy bag for a shelter. The worst part is all the people saying what an amazing bag it is. They are just attracted to the gadgets and toys like moths round a flame. IMO, I think anyone who has little or no hiking experience and is contemplating a 72 hour BOB, would be well served by watching videos showing what section hikers carry for the AT or similar. Probably 2/3 of what they carry is about shelter, sleeping gear and clothing. The remaining 1/3 is water, food and cooking. It's boring, but that is what you NEED, not lint rollers, solar powered calculators, compressors and tire repair kits. It's about getting from A to B with a backpack. Videos made by people who do a lot of getting from A to B with a backpack, are far, far more useful than videos made by Walter Mitty's with a credit card and not much of a clue.
Totally agree, hikers have it right...
TheSmokinApe Absolutely they do. It starts with a good pair of boots and goes from there. Even the first aid kit, foot powder, moleskin and kinesio tape is what you need to keep your feet in good shape, not 3 lbs of trauma kit for imaginary gunshot wounds, or dental repair putty - presumably in case your teeth fall out with all the sudden physical exercise.
Martyntd5 LOL
Just a note: A lint roller can be used to remove poisonous/burning substances from the surface of the skin safely and effectively. I work in EMS and lint rollers are actually indicated for treatment of patients with toxic substances on the surface of their skin and this is written out in our protocols. We even carry a lint roller on our ambulance. Now, I'm not saying that this means you should make space for a lint roller in your BOB because a situation like that is very uncommon and can be taken care of by other means in a true survival situation. But I'm just stating that there ARE possible uses other than getting dog hair off your shirt.
Thanks for the heads up, bone of this was mentioned in that video...
+TheSmokinApe I see. Like I said, it's still pretty impractical to have a lint roller in a bug out bag. I honestly can't think of a good use for one unless you accidentally spilled bad chemical pesticide or fertilizer powder on yourself while searching an old barn or something.
I agree, to me it seemed like a rather odd "prep".
Very much so
You're opinions are great! You also appear to actively participate with the commenters! You've earned my subscription. Keep up the great work pal!
Thanks for the feedback and the sub... I'm glad you like the channel.
I love this video! Super Truthful! Thanks.
Thanks for the comments...
Man I completely agree, great video. Problem I have is my location is family land but very empty, no houses or people for miles but most concerning , no permanent shelter built. Any suggestions for building a safe place or should I look for fellow minded people to have a safe location to meet up? I mean, combined skills are better then solo skills.
+Hammer Forged Survival Yeah, I believe there is safety in numbers... Thanks for the feedback...
One big mistake I see people make is presuming they can get from point A to B in a certain number of days.
This might be true now (although I bet not many have even tried this, most will be guessing) but if the situation is really bad then it could take a lot longer.
I wouldn't be surprised if 72 hrs turns into 140 or 200 hrs in certain conditions.
The 7 P's, Proper planning & preparation prevents piss poor performance.
The best bug out video I have ever seen ( I wish I could find it again) was from a guy who's BOB gave him the option to live for a year in the wilderness, nothing fancy in there, all the things he had he gave great explanations for, he also had the knowledge to go with it too.
Just Wayne Yeah, I agree that the 72 hours could get much longer. Thanks for the comment.
I have built several survival bags for myself but are not identical. One thing I have in my primary bag that I don't see in videos is a pair of mini vise grips. They can be a little heavy but have more than one use. A good pair is maybe 8 to 10 dollars and and are virtually indestructible. I prefer tools that offer multiple uses and redundancy in order to cut down on other items in bag. As far a flashlights or gear that uses batteries I use gear that only requires one type of battery such as AA so your don't have to pack multiple styles. Just my 2 cents.
Good info and the point about redundancy is spot on!
Thoughtful and good advice.
Thanks man!
excellent tips- well spoken as well.
Ace Riley Awesome, thanks for the comments...
I saw a chap carrying a sock full of peanut butter jars (three fit). Apparently its somewhat of a high calorie, low maintenance super food for survival, What are your thoughts on it?
CedricAda Gear and Outdoors I do think peanut butter is a great item for this. I'd also look at things like cliff bars that contain peanut butter and other good for you type stuff as well. Also there is a number of high calorie energy rich gels available. Thanks for the comments...
the one thing i do is make sure i have some kit on me personally, namely in my coat (denim, but i put a waterproof fleece over the top) perfect for uk weather (and grey man compliant), compass, maps (can be forced into pockets and not wreck said pockets), a 500ml bottle (bottle water type) which can be flattened a few times, but held in coat pocket, multi tools (i have a wingman and swiss army knife) covering pretty much everything on my belt, a lightweight (9g) spork (just in case), and a sawyer mini with bottle adapter and straw). other stuff i throw in a bum bag (small foldup cooker with some fuel), bic lighter, box of weatherproof matches, 2 wetfire packs, metal cup, energy bars, nutrition bars, emergency blanket (foil type, very compact) just basics, if i loose my main bag i have minimum backups.
Sounds like you are squared away pretty good. I like the idea of maps, people get lost pretty easy when they don't have a GPS.
Hello mate , very good.& clear information ,well thought out cheers ️atb martin
Outlander Bushcraft Thanks for the comment....
When you're trying to see if it's a video or a picture in the background and you finally se his hand move I'm like gotcha bitch 😂😂
Ben Nicolson LOL
I just found your channel. I just don't think ppl understand that weight is EVERYTHING. And do your homework get the best possible ultralight gear you can afford and like you said use it pack it on a weekend trip 10 miles first day boom packed out before dawn on the trail for 10 more miles . Use your filter system. The key is have a free standing tent super small and ultralight like 2.5 lbs and below in a color that blends in . Very important but free area to sleep .
All great points. I’ll add that it’s better to build slowly getting quality gear then to build all at once making a bunch of compromises.
Good advice thanks
Neverland Thanks man!
Great video, honest and plain spoken.
Cool man, glad you liked it... thanks for the feedback.
Very well done.
Robert DaytonOhio Thanks, glad you liked it...
Overall well thought out and explained video.
Thanks for the feedback, glad you liked it...
Hi after watching your video I'm curious to see your bug out bag set up, do you have a link to it? Thanks.
I have never done a video on it, I am planning to though...
To be fair, a cast iron frying pan makes an excellent self defense weapon.
TheyCallMeMrDougie This is an excellent point...
but if your running, it may be 1kg of frying pan but after 30 mins its going to feel more like 10kg!
an example to prove this... get a full glass of water, get its weight, then stand or walk round with it held out in front of you, arm straight, for 30 mins without stopping... the glass of water ends up feeling like a ton! now imagine that on your back........ then after 30 mins, your arm will hurt badly, and ill guess you'll get to 10 mins and stop. try it with the frying pan too... then you'll get it.
Great thoughts, making me rethink my bag, and the wifes bag
this video is good for ppl who have bug out LOCATIONS ,not for those who dont have a location like most of us.
I agree, that's why I explained what I wanted to convey at the beginning of the video. If you "bug out" with no place to go you are essentially a refugee... in a scenario like that you need a long-term survival bag. Thanks for watching.
Lol I NEED the link for the guy with the lint roller!! HAHA great vid anyhow
Lol, its out there... he has a big ole 5.11 72 Rush Pack...
If you are going through the desert you don't need a wool blanket? Damn I sure wish I had mine when I got stranded in the desert out in Nevada last August. It dropped 40 degrees in 30 minutes....
AlmostCirculated Good catch, I was trying to make the point that a kit should be dependent on region and climate. Thanks for watching...
these are good kits for a "thank god i have it kit", but thats really all it is. situations where you actually have to leave your vehicle behind or even your home, you better bring more with you then that. collapsible fishing pole with proper tackle is going to be much more needed then you think. leaving those things such as vehicle or house, chances are unlikely it will be both. in that situation, your state is screwed and so are you if you have to leave your home. a proper filteration and even water purifier capsuls (if thwy even work, i dont know) are good in case you do get sick, you will want good clean water. sawyer minis wont cut it, a proper camping water filter is going to be needed.
+Kamikaze Krunch Pretty sure I covered those exact points. Thanks for watching and for the comment...
Sounds to me you were saying you dont need those things.
What I was saying is that your Bag should be able to support your bug out plan. I also said that I have seen instances where people have too many redundancies, water purification being one of them. I saw a video where someone had 6 different water filters, IMO that is too much.
Right in the center of the video image is a fishing kit, I do think there is value in a fishing kit. What I don't see value in are goofy telescoping fishing poles that are cheaply made. Additionally, I would suggest have food in your pack and not relying on have the luxury to go fishing. The trek to your Bug Out Location should be made quickly, standing around fishing with your pocket fishing rod will slow you down.
Hope this helps.
working off my watch queue finally, another good common sense vid!
Thanks man, glad you liked it...
Nice Video. Can you list what you should have and should not have in a Bug out Bag? Please explain the items in the video. Keep them in the bag or not? etc. etc..
Thanks it would help bunched...
Bart Walker Thanks for the comment. I am planning to do a video of Bug Out Bag contents soon, I didn't do one before because I was unsure of interest.
Toiletries; toothbrush, toothpaste, toilet-paper/wipes(im serious), foot-powder, soap, cleaning towels in some fashion, your medication, high-carbon knife and stainless steel knife.
And for God's sake bring extra underwear.
Would you say that boot laces are too redundant, if you have paracord?
One thing I never see anyone suggest is family photos. A photo can prove a relationship, and also help people find family members, or pets.
I think your video was really good.
Glad you liked the video. Pictures are a good idea...
Some interesting points. It seems that a lot of them are opinions rather than absolute "don'ts". Different circumstances, experiences, and training determine the importance of the items people choose to place in their bug out bags. I see you comment (and critique) on a lot of UA-cam videos but outside of UA-cam what training and experiences do you use to draw conclusions about what shouldn't go into bug out bags? I know when I started prepping I was opinionated on everything because so and so said something different or because I felt it was common sense NOT to do something (like redundancies of items). But each new experience and training technique I learned the more I realized how little I actually knew.
BudgetBugout
Glad to see you stop by the channel my friend. In this video, if it's not clear, all content is my opinion that I have formed by examining other peoples bags; none are absolute do or don'ts. I also said folks need to take their own circumstance into consideration.
As for my experience and expertise, does it matter? I am not claiming to be an expert, like many other video makers often do… I am just a regular person. I am confused by your post, do you have an issue with the content of my video? Or are you upset that I posted on other videos?
I believe that we all make mistakes and continue to learn, there isn't one person with all the answers. In this video I stated I am sure there mistakes with what I said, so please share what you can to make this a better learning experience for us...
What kind of multi-tool do you have on the table in the vid?
+Jan Langenhoff It's the Leatherman Supertool 300
ua-cam.com/video/pxaRE9v10pM/v-deo.html
TheSmokinApe thanks and great vid btw
Informative indeed.
Thanks man...
Was it hard to get your ham license for that radio?
No, I was able to get some pratice tests off the internet.
As a girl, my bug out bag has a few extra items like a shewee, time of month supplies, lip balm, deodorant, toothpaste and toothbrush, hair brush and scrunchie. I was told a few months ago to look and act more like a guy in a bug out situation. I not really sure why or how this would help me, not really sure how to go about gray man stuff. Whatever that is.
I with you, I don't see how avting like a guy would help. Thanks for the comment...
To me bugout means getting the hell out of the house, with no destination in mind
I can see that point, thanks for the comment.
Good points there.
Awesome feedback, glad you liked it and thanks for watching...
You do need a wool blanket in the desert it gets really cold at night
Thanks for the tip / comment...
Great information
Thanks Dean, it was just some thoughts I had collected over the years as I was putting together a bag. I think there is allot of goofy info out there and wanted to tip the scales a bit. Today I saw a video where a fella had 3 pairs of gloves, his bag weighed over 70lbs...
TheSmokinApe - Bugging out is serious. Great video's but to truly consider that situations have forced you from your home is serious business. I appreciated this video
yeah, I think bugging out is the last of last resorts...
Makes the point that there is no such thing as THE perfect S&G bag. Ultimately, factoring specific variables (local conditions) , the priority should be the abilty to be mobile and exist for 24-72 hours depending on objective.
Tree knifes is a good number in my opinion and a tomohawk head in case your 72 hours is delayed by natural or artificial means and on that point a way of procuring food
Great point about the tomahawk...
great video as usual. 99.9 percent of people don't even have a location to bug out too. it's better they stay their RAMBO but indoors. I actually got some US military grade claymores for home defense. shhhhh.
Thanks for the comment and feedback. I agree that most people should stay at home where they are safer...
In a bug out you do not really need a solar panel to charge up your batteries if you are just trying to get from point A to point B, I know multi people that have folding solar panels. There is nothing wrong with solar panels but it comes back to that how much is your bag going to weight and how long does this bag have to last you.
This is just what I think when it comes to the power aspect and if any one has something to argue or disagree with I would love to hear.
I think it depends on a few things; where you are going, what type of gear you have, how long the trip will take... Whatever you take / pack will be dependent on your specific plans...
Thank you for the response and pointing that out
+young engineer8 No prob man, hope you like the videos...
Night Vision such as an ANPVS 14 or 7 is a force multiplier and not just cool.
I don’t disagree about usefulness, just that there is only so much gear one can carry. Thanks for the comment.
TheSmokinApe at less than a pound, giving you the option to move quickly at night to avoid conflict I think its almost a must.
live in Canada made good points
Thanks man!
I don't think people should pack books in there bag
Why?
Books weigh to much. You should be moving not reading. Books are not essential. If the book is a good survival book like the SAS one you should read it before you have to bug out.
Caleb Saville I think that's a fair point. I also think that reference material for thinks like wild edibles or medicinal plans or maybe a first aid book are a good idea as well. I agree that you move and not read... thanks for the comments...
Thanks anyway your video was very smart
thanks man! take care...
Haha, I've seen someone use an aluminum can cut out as a knife.
Thanks for the comment...
wise words…I hope somebody takes the point…and perhaps you saved a life!
Thanks! Glad you like the video.
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I always have discussions with the lads when we go out insisting that this is not a novel or a film! Gee, they bring everything imaginable… I always say: leave the cars 5 or 7 miles from the camping site… then walk with your gear… and I am sura those humungous packs will start shrinking at a awesome pace. For seasoned guys, it might be “ok” but for green-horns it gives them the feeling that everything is easy, there’s no cold, no hunger, no fatigue, no low morale… far from truth!!!
I migh have strong opinions on going light, but surely the “batleships” won’t go very far nor fast enough…!
People always overlook money.
+Greg Winter Good point!
Burn gel. Meduim medical kit for scrapes bruses and moderit cuts my tabled phone wallet coin pouch and a note book
linktheelf Yeah, a well stocked Med Kit would be key. Thanks for the comment.
allies made lol,im 13 just made a survival team (riptide survival armada):)
how do you know, did you take a scientific poll
Nope... Anecdotal observation.
It's a good thing you're an expert! Hahhahah all that shit is still new in the package, get out and use that shit, the make a video and pretend like you know what you're talking about. Nice note taking though
Glad you liked the video, thanks for watching!
Sensible info bro.
Thanks man, and thanks for watching...
And you absolutely do not need 3500 calories per person per day. Food is not a priority. MREs are bulky so please for the love of God do not waste have of your bag space with 3 MREs. If you ARE going to pack something, I'd suggest granola or ramen. I have a few packs of ramen. Small, lightweight, and can easily be prepared over a fire with just water and a canteen cup. But you can go without food for 3 weeks. I'd suggest you plan a bug out location that you know will provide food within the first few days of your arrival but don't get so hung up with packing MREs, super energy bars, Mountain House meals, etc. The normal human body has more than enough energy stores for a 3 day or less journey.
I think opinions are mixed in this one, you can chose to bug out with food if you like I will choose otherwise...
I don't recall saying food was more important than shelter or water but I did this video a while ago...
Nope you didn't. But you did say 3500 calories per person per day was necessary but, really, you don't need any food in a 72 hour bag.
+Logan Thomas Yeah, I think I said that bugging out as defined for that video was hiking 10, 15, 20 miles per-day carrying a big ole bag moving as quickly as possible. While I suppose that you don't need food, as mentioned before I'd feel better having it...
TheSmokinApe Understandable. It's different in my situation though. My bug out location is
lol but ur a guy from UA-cam telling me this contradiction
+Pj Park Right!
+TheSmokinApe lol so how bout um nature toilet paper or any hygiene, if ur planning on bugging out long term without any hygiene u have a risk of an infection.
+TheSmokinApe but over all I like this video.
Pj Park Cool man, glad to hear it... thanks for the comments...
+TheSmokinApe lol nevermind