AMADEUS (1984) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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This story is historical fiction. It was taken from a play and is not meant to be biographical. That said, this is an extraordinary movie on every level. Well written, well acted, well edited, well scored with Mozart's music, and well told. From the costumes, to the makeup, to the lighting and cinematography it was all top tier. This movie was art. It deserved every award it got as well as some it didn't. The actor playing Mozart was snubbed by the Academy and did not get the Oscar. It was, as usual by those elitists, a slap in the face to someone who worked very hard to present a living character with dimension and substance. This movie truly is a masterpiece.
One of my absolute favorites. F Murray Abraham’s performance was superb! Especially as the old Salieri. He won an Oscar for this role.
This movie is in my top 5 films of all time. Absolute Masterpiece and the acting is top tier. I believe the actor who played Saliere won an Oscar for his performance. My youngest daughter who is a music student and plays the piano, violin, and flute had not seen this until I showed her the movie on Blu Ray and she was inspired by it and it’s her favorite movie. Just perfect and beautifully tragic.
The movie won about 7-8 Oscars, so, you may be correct.
Totally agree, mine too. I would recommend watching Dangerous Liaisons (John Malkovic, Glenn close, uma thurman. Another masterpiece to review
F. Murray Abraham is his name. Don’t worry I had to look it up too lol
Mozart was a genius, an absolute GENIUS
I'm old enough to have seen Amadeus in the theater when it was first released. I loved it then as a teenager and it is still in my top 5 favorite movies. I'd never listened to classical music before, but my brother and I immediately started going to the library and checking out all of the Mozart albums.
40:04 The singer is June Anderson and those extremely high notes are high F's. They characterise a type of soprano singing called coloratura.
She's really impressive!
This movie introduced me into classical music and made me love it, especially Mozart.
I hope people don't go away from the movie thinking it's an accurate representation of their friendship; Mozart and Salieri were in fact good friends and there's no evidence to indicate Salieri ever hated Mozart or thought less of him.
People for some reason seem to overlook the obvious detail that this film's version of Salieri is an unreliable narrator. This movie did what a lot of movies do and give a hypothetical story to a real rumor (such as the alleged survival of the grand dutchess Anastasia in the animated Fox film, the alternate history of Elvis' twin being adopted in the Identical, or the many theories surrounding the death of George Reeves in Hollywoodland). You don't have to know anything about the real history of these people to know that this movie is not at all meant to be taken seriously. The tone says it all.
Although... more details are based in fact than some people think.
When this movie came out, everyone knew it was based on an apocryphal story, same as the Beethoven "Moonlight Sonata" story that the "Amadeus" rip-off "Immortal Beloved" was based on. It certainly was promoted that way and discussed. I went to that movie knowing what it was. Great movie. Too bad Forman ruined it by adding 20 minutes it didn't need (including that stupid topless scene. That poor actress. Dodged a bullet for 20 years, lol)
@@TTM9691, I also prefer the theatrical cut. It makes Salieri more relatable and saves the virtue of mozart’s wife.
Elements are real, motives are speculative, or even conjured.
-in old age, Salieri went mad, attempted suicide, and in his madness, confessed to killing Mozart.
-there was an anonymous man paying Mozart for a requiem which he planned to steal and take credit for.
@@williamshelton4318, I agree that the screenplay’s intent was not to discover truth, but most of the elements within are nonetheless true.
-Mozart was a young, highly gifted, under appreciated, and troubled composer in Vienna
-Salieri was his contemporary
-his personal and professional life was portrayed somewhat accurately
-someone commissioned a requiem in an attempt to take credit for it
- Salieri went mad in his old age and confessed, unconvincingly, that he killed Mozart.
Peter Shaffer used these real elements to craft a fictionalized narrative, but to write it off as mere fiction is probably an overstatement.
When I saw this in a theater, nobody got up and left during the closing credits - because Mozart's music was still playing. I heard this happened in a lot of places.
This is my favorite film of all time. Glad to see more people reacting to it!
Mozart wrote the Queen of the Night aria specifically for his sister-in-law. That aria is gorgeous and those high F's are dangerous!
I had to go find the letter. I read a whole paper on it. Here are the lyrics. Apparently, it was a family bedtime rhyme.
"I now wish you a good night, shit in your bed with all your might, sleep with peace on your mind, and try to kiss your own behind; I now go off to never-never land and sleep as much as I can stand."
F Murray Abraham is one of the greatest and most underrated actors.
Honestly he should have been cast into the role of Jafar for the live action Aladdin.
Had a blast watching with this you! Loved the way the ending hit you, I was feeling the same way on this rewatch. I LOVE movies that leave you with that "wtf feeling". A hallmark of the classic 60s-70s-80s directors (like this one, Milos Forman.). "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" is a perfect example (same director). I liked how you empathized with Mozart, never knowing the whole time this guy was toying with him. My favorite line from the reaction: "They used to knock way too aggressively back in those days." LOL (I tell that to people all the time!) (just kidding, just kidding😄). It's so nice just as a change of pace to see a reaction to this movie, or a movie like it. Something that falls in the cracks because most reaction channels get stuck in strict "genre". Like you said: is this drama? Musical? It's got comedy in it. Variety is the spice of life, I wish more channels would take your lead! Tonight, we go back in time, immerse ourselves in the classical music world. Next reaction I can't predict what it will be on this channel! it might be an Al Pacino movie from the 70s ("Dog Day Afternoon"?!), it might be something new..... it might be a friggin' silent movie for all I know! I'm here for it! See you on the next one. (and thanks!)
This remains one of my favorite movies of all time. In my youth I was classically trained on piano and Mozart was always a joy to play. The only opera I've ever been to see is Don Giovanni and it was glorious.
While I agree with your opinion on the nobility, and people being subservient simply because of their birth, the man whose ring Mozart's father was kissing and was bowing to wasn't nobility, he was a Cardinal of the Church. Since clergy don't marry he wasn't 'born' into his position. Granted, he may have been born to a wealthy family, but he worked his way up the ranks of the Church and technically earned his position.
Hieronymus of Colloredo-Wallsee was not a regular cardinal. He was a PRINCE-Archbishop.
Only members of noble families (born into nobility) could become prince-archbishops of Salzburg.
Wigs were commonly used to cover up hair loss, but their use did not become widespread until two Kings started to lose their hair. King Louis XIV of France experienced hair loss at the early age of 17, and he hired 48 wigmakers to help combat his thinning locks. In European societies during the 16th century, women's fashions with exposed breasts were common across the class spectrum. Peace out.
It's not true, btw, that Salieri hated Mozart, or killed him. The interesting thing is that the (false) rumor that Salieri hated and killed Mozart is an old one. At the end of Salieries life there was indeed gossip about it running amock. Which was quite unpleasant, for him. Great movie though, based on true stories and truly old false rumors!
Yep, and 5 years after Salieri’s death, Alexander Pushkin wrote a play about it (in 1830).
'Scat' talk was a big part of Mozart's life in his letters. There are lots of letters they have found that Mozart had written to family, etc that was filled with it !!
What you said about Mozart being "weird" is pretty accurate. They really didn't have a term for autism back then but if there's anyone in world history that can be identified being on the spectrum it's probably him. His mannerisms and eccentricities are so well documented a lot of scholars, in the field who studied the accounts, come to that conclusion. This film did an excellent job of showing how much of an odd duck he was but at the same time his weirdness enriching the world.
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I really enjoyed rewatching this movie with you! Thank you for this reaction. You might also (if you haven't yet seen it) enjoy Topsy-Turvy, a 1999 film about Gilbert & Sullivan's struggles while writing The Mikado. 🙂
That's a good movie. All those lush set designs. And backstage dramas. Could you imagine complaining about having to wear those gorgeous costumes?
Confutatis still gives me chills
I saw this at 18 in 1984 and have loved it ever since.
You may be the smartest reactor on UA-cam. No matter the format (movie, music), topic or genre you have knowledge and genuine insight. You’re always a delight to watch.
This is one of my favourite movies of all time, and I loved your reaction to it. I hope you do more movies like this that may not have a huge audience but are incredible films. All the best!
The poop letters were just jokes. Poop jokes were his thing
And since we've been living in the age of toilet jokes since the 70s (and definitely the 80s onwards), it's shocking it's shocking! lol.
You have that Mona Lisa smile going. That's a cool trait, I'm envious.
I mean Mozart was a musical genius and would probably be a super rock star today. I mean all this modern music and these modern songs will be absolutely forgotten in thousands of years.. But Mozart will live.. Because it is music history. This dude is immortal.. I mean the fact that a guy hundred years later watches a film about him is absolutely mind blowing.
It is fact that Wolfgang was commissioned to write a requiem mass...and by pure exhaustion and sickness he passed before he could finish it, although it was fished by a protégé of Mozart who was advised by Mozart while he was still alive on how to finish it. The beautiful yet sad thing is it ended up being his own requiem mass in a way. Live by the sword die by the sword as they say.
I’ve loved this movie since I first watched it in the early 90s. Salieri was not the hater portrayed out to be in the film. 😂 And the Michael Jackson comparison is spot on 😊
36:12 Sir, what you're viewing here is a parody of Mozart's opera "Don Giovanni". This is being performed by people who are making a comedy out of a tragic opera for the entertainment of the average classes, not the nobility. It's more like community theatre and appeals to the common people with its humor and singability for the audience.
G'day, Mr. L. Boyd! Those costumes were the fashion of the day; low-cut necklines on women's dresses, layers of underclothing (pantaloons, petticoats, corsets, etc.), men's coats that were very rigid and restraining of free movement, and, of course, wigs for both men and women. The men, I understand, mostly wore wigs because they had to keep their natural hair short as a result of lice.
First time i hear poisoning as in someone did it to him. Back in school i learned it was lead poisoning caused by constant exposure to ink which was made worse by the state of the medical field prescribing blood letting as treatment for everything.
While at it how bout checking out falco for the music side which fits with "rock me amadeus".
This is NOT a true story, it is based on Peter Shaffer’s famous stage play. It’s an “alternative fantasy.”
it all holds together because the story is a confession by Salieri, who - while in a psychiatric hospital - mixes up real and fictional things
The Theatrical Cut is superior. It removes the scenes where Salieri is at his worst, such as the false seduction, so he comes across not as truly evil but as a tragic figure.
Also, the laugh at the end is not from Salieri. It is Mozart, getting the 'last laugh' to show that no matter what Salieri did, Mozart still won in the end because Salieri has been forgotten and he got remembered.
39:15 Music here is "Rex Tremendae Majestatis" ("King of tremendous majesty") from Mozart's Requiem Mass. It refers to the LORD, actually, and the final judgement of all people.
Please note that the films depiction of Salieri and his intense rivalry with Mozart is fiction; it's based on a stage play. The real historical Salieri deserves our admiration; he did a lot of pro bono work, especially for the less fortunate and poor. That doesn't change that the film is one of the finest ever made. The scene where Salieri reads Mozarts originals and has his realization, is both stunning and despairing. It's the moment that onsets Salieri's tragedy and fall.
Salieri was actually married with a lot of kids and the beloved music teacher of famous composers like Schubert and Beethoven. Heck, he even taught one of Mozart's sons!
Mozart's laugh *chef's kiss
The actor that played Salieri was amazing
He just got cancelled for making jokes. 🤡🌎
@@antoinettelopes Darn........
This is based on a stage play by Peter Shaffer (he also did the screenplay adaptation for this one). There was a scene at the very beginning that I wish had gotten kept, or expanded, but likely was cut for pacing purposes, and because it wouldn't work as well on film. Still, I wish they could have re-worked it.
The scene in question expands the roles of Salieri's two helpers at the very beginning (called the "Venticelli," or "little winds"), where an ailing Salieri supposedly confesses to killing Mozart; he calls out "Perdona il tuo assassino!" - "Forgive your assassin!" The Venticelli then argue back and forth, debating over whether they believe Salieri or not. They finish with the question: "Did he do it after all?" From backstage, the rest of the company calls out the name "SALIERI!" and the lights go down.
I watched this movie multiple times. I enjoyed your relatable and genuine reaction
btw, the way F Murray abraham as Saleiri described the music was the most beuatiufl descriptoin ever. oh and mozart really was buried in a an unmakred grave, some people say it was becasue he died poor, actaully that is incorrect. in his day at that specific time, it was the law of the land athat only royalty gets marked grave and common people were buried in unmakrd graves. not much later after this people did start to get their own graves.
I’m learning German, and one of the reasons is so I can listen to Mozart’s operas (the German ones), in the original language
A good movie after this would be “The Red Violin”
Nah "Perfume"
You would get down on youe knees and kiss a royal's hand if the the only other option was to lose your head.
i love your reaction but why did you cut out /mute all the music? i mean i understand a lot about copyrights, but mozart has been dead since 1791 and coprights only last for 50 years past the writers death date. i think you would be totally fine. plus the music is actaully almost a character in and of itself and one of the best parts of the movie
Comparing Michael Jackson to Mozart is like me belching the alphabet and saying I’m like Biggie.
There is actually a good parallel between them as mentioned: their insane hardass fathers.
I know you're referring to the talent, and I'd agree, but that's subjective in the end.
@@maxw565 actually not subjective. Mozart made music that still is revered, while Michael Jackson had others write his songs. The only similarities are the overbearing manipulative fathers but as far as talent it’s not even close, Mozart had more talent in his pinkie finger than MJ had in his entire body. But obviously MJ was and is a very popular singer.
@@tonysoto8949 Tony, sit down and shut up, you are completely misunderstanding the reference, and you're embarrassing yourself. AND YOU WERE BAITED INTO IT, that's the humiliating part. You played yourself (as the expression goes.....). How embarrassing, lol.
@@tonysoto8949 Exactly, Mozart was composing complex musical pieces before he was 10 years old.
MJ was/is at the top of the pop music talent hierarchy. Very few of our era have that kind of talent. But nothing he did was of the sophistication or historical significance of Mozart.
Mozart wrote the music by which we sing our alphabet.
the film/play is a beautifully dramatized fictionalization of unconnected histories. some details are true, many of the interactions are infinitely less probable.
when i watch a film like Amadeus, i think of Prince, and Debussy, and Mercury, and Shankar, and Davis. how heavy the toll is when the Muses use your heart as a divine and joyous vehicle. when every synapse is firing on the inspiration you're trying to transcribe as fast as ink can flow, the tunnel vision that fades the rest of the world away, the less difference there is between you and the infinite... yea, that's where it's at. "The Flow". when your skin seems like the thinnest membrane between your soul and G-d, the moment your proprioception ceases is (capitol "N") Nirvana level reverie.
I prefer the theatrical cut. Salieri doesn’t proposition mozart’s wife.
Anyone who’s ever felt jealousy or envy can relate to Salieri in the theatrical version, the proposition makes him more monster than human.
I like the proposition for how it ends. It's made in a sort of spring of the moment decision, but when it comes time, Salieri realizes how horrible it is and stops. I think it makes Salieri more human that he has that really dark moment but pulls back rather than staying at a consistently mid level of maliciousness.
Another movie of the same caliber is "The Elephant Man"
Wigs of all colors were an accepted style at the time. The preference of white powdered wigs increased exponentially during the syphilis outbreaks of the 1700s; they covered bald spots, discoloration and open syphilis sores.
And lice. Don't forget the lice!
@@TTM9691 I'd imagine the wigs would just make lice worse, right?
Also the wight/grey colors used, was a side effect of the hair powder (which often times was just regular flour) to keep the hairdo up and in place. I saw a UA-camr recreate the hairdo with an old instruction manual using their own natural hair, and after powdering it up it looked very light grey.
The reason people wore wigs like that is because their heads were shaved to keep headlice at bay. When the wig came off, the lice went with it. It was optional, of course, but you have to consider that the hygiene standards of the day were not at peak level.
Excellent YT video: "The Making of Amadeus - director's cut by Milos Forman."
Great movie...keep it up...2 epics back to back
The opera performance Mozart and his wife were at is called a "singspiell." They had spoken dialogue and were often outlandish comedies/satire, etc... operas, to carry the plot forward have recitatives - which is dialogue but sung with chords underneath them. The opera which Mozart wrote for the theatre and his friend was a singspiel, because it had spoken lines.
I looooove this movie! The costume materials are not in the least accurate at all... but the music and style.❤❤❤❤❤
Do you have to edit out the music? Just curious because wouldn't Mozart's music be in public domain?
the composition would be public domain, but the orchestra that covered it has a copyright on their version , For me to claim public domain i would have to play the composition or hire an orchestra to play it
Yup. He loved to swear.
Your commentary on the hair and wigs is very funny. Especially considering what the average person sees how people wear their hair today.
Ha. It's to laugh
Love this movie!☺💚
This movie is brilliant...
If you haven't seen 1981 Excalibur, look up the cast , you'll want to react to it then.
this is definitely not a true story. apparently this mythology sprung up in the years following Mozart's death. i think this is also an expanded edition, i prefered the original cut. i can't blame all that happens to Mozart in the movie on Salieri, a lot of it was his own doing.
The whole thing was completely manufactured. They were not enemies at all. Quite the opposite. They were working friends. And Salieri brought Mozart's music around to show people and went to most of his performances. Also, Salieri wasn't even considered an Italian composer, he was considered German: He was born in Italy but moved to Germany when young and was considered a German composer by contemporaries. And he was a highly respected teacher and composer and a few of his operas are still performed today. This movie is character assassination on a grand scale of a great guy, and someone who went out of his way to help Mozart more than anyone else. What happened was this... the Italian school of music had a fight with the German school of music and they used these two men to represent that, which had zero to do with those two men in reality. But I have always loved this film. Loved it a lot. The writing is great (it is based on a Broadway play by Peter Schaffer and Mozart was played by Tim Curry.) The acting is amazing. The music is obviously great. The directing. But I have a problem with it because it destroyed the name of a truly great man. A good man. Who did not deserve it in any way shape or form.
The sin of envy is evil of evil
Saliere got a bad rap in this movie, I assume because they needed a bad guy. He and Mozart were very good friends in real life.
It’s based off of a play that was written by Pushkin in 1830, 5 years after the death of Salieri, based on rumors that were floating around at the time. So this version of events has existed for a very long time. But yes Salieri’s name got dragged through the dirt to make this masterpiece come alive.
I grew up catholic.
Find me one catholic who was ever called "my son" by a priest, and I'll show you one that wasn't touched as a kid.
History buffs made an amazing video about this movie you should check out
Historical fashion is WILD
Good movie
Please consider doing Hacksaw ridge directed by Mel Gibson and based on a true story, a story that deserves to be better known.
I have it on the list, It'll be done very soon
Saw this for the first time myself last week.
There is no limit to what one can accomplish, as long as they don't care who gets the credit.
Had he truly kept his vow, especially the humility, he could have enabled that young man to produce the glories of Heaven on earth.
Movie was only loosely based on true events.
Certainly, I mean in the context of the characters as opposed to historical figures.
The hater and Mozart reflect on a personal level, an impersonal thing going on with society and its artists.
Do you feel that Salieri was won over by Mozart’s sincere apology and might have been redeemed, if not for Mozart’s death? Or was he fully committed to claiming their collaboration as his own work, if not for the arrival of Mozart’s wife?
I feel like in the film universe, they had great chemistry and could’ve been great friends and bonded over their love of music, but on the other hand seems like Salieri never showed any regret for killing Mozart, only that his plan got spoiled, so seems like he was to far gone at that point? Perhaps if Mozart was more mature and mannered from the start, perhaps things would’ve been different?
I think historically, most authority comes from the concept of divine right. If God is all knowing and all powerful, and you're the king or other authority figure, then obviously you were chosen by God to be in charge. People have to grovel to you because you are favored by God and religion was a powerful force back in those days. I'm sure people like Galileo would agree. I don't doubt that many, if not most, people thought that system of authority was full of crap, but who would stand up to it? You would wind up on the rack or worse. So there's a touch of hypocrisy in Salieri's position in this movie. He's willing go believe God does bestow favor upon people...but he thinks when someone like Mozart is favored then a mistake has been made somewhere in God's workflow. The fact that Salieri can understand the true level of Mozart's genius just makes the sting hurt that much more.
Yes. Not sure why he didn't get this.
I love this! Very solid commentary. And yes, I agree with most of your comment but I need to point out: education back then wasn't as universal as it is today so people were easily manipulated into believing whatever the elite wanted them to believe so nobody really stood up to it because they just didn't know better. I agree partially with your point just in the case of the privileged classes. Anyway, food for thought. Thank you!
Well... this was one weird reaction... you don't seem to have a time line history wise. You seem to react as if there is no time line... but as events in history happens in parallellt universes. Weird...
About 22:50 in, and yes, he is a hater, and he hates himself for being so.
My friends and I also said the same. Salieri is a top tier hater
Songs? Mozart?
What are those glasses they look clean af
I'm like 99.9% Salieri. 🤷🏽♀️ You definitely should get one of those wigs tho. I would take you way more seriously.
Oh
Am i crazy or is music by Mozart not subject to copyright laws
Mozart was 35 when he died.
South Park Bigger Longer Uncut
Great film, but there are major historical liberties taken for the sake of story and style.
Saliere is the greatest hater of all time
Nobody was born into being a Cardinal.
He's bowing because he's not only Noble but he's part of an elect Holy order, a royal priesthood.
Lol
And you're very much wrong about Salieri you keep on calling him a hater. It was Mozart who is a hater, unappreciative and unworthy he died a pauper and will never be found as punishment.
Historical fiction by the way
too annoying to watch, and I ain't talking about Tom's Mozart laugh.
@.35:15 "Was this like common practice? Just people walk around with masks and...'cause if so, that's wild."
*Ahem* too soon to mention COVID?"
Exactly my thought.
You talk too much.
Typhoid
I hope you can feel the difference in quality between movies like this,forrest,shawshank and those awful hunger movies.
Hunger movies?
@@joakimberg7897 yes awful bland hunger games crap
@@piotrswat169 I liked them
At 21 minute to show that scene without the music its desgusting frankly...
I don't think you get the movie
You cut the music. No good!
Salieri gets a bad rap in this film. His music is just as good as Mozart. I personally love his
Cublai, gran kan de’Tartar Overture.
So lively and fun.
6:22...How do you take seriously someone wearing one of those wigs? Well it's called fashion and as we all know nothing dates quite like it (what seemed commonplace in the 18th century might well seem weird two hundred years later). Maybe in a few hundred years from now it might seem a little odd to watch a stranger (who apparently knows a lot but understands very little) react to some random film 🤔
Or in a few hundred years they'll see how odd passive aggressiveness is in the comment section against a stranger over opinions.
@@mrlboydschannelmanager Sounds like someone got butt-hurt.
Bingo. Thank you!!
@@SC-gp7kt even if I can delete all of these comments, I don't. Random hate online is the pastime for people with nothing better to do.
@@SC-gp7kt you're welcome. Here we are, to be a target for your frustration. It's all good, you're going to be ok.
Purtroppo questo è l'ennesimo esempio di quanto di più falso ipocrita e culturalmente storicamente e musicalmente errato, sbagliato sia stato fatto nei confronti della musica di Mozart. È a dir poco un film meschino che pesa enormemente sulla coscienza di quel regista, che come al solito, per dare pathos alla sua "opera" s'inventa meschinità storpiature e soprattutto falsità facendo cantare a un soprano un'aria in inglese quando si sa che Mozart non ha mai scritto le sue opere in inglese. Avevano ragione i tedeschi "GESCHÄFT ÜBER ALLES". Almeno scrivere "fatti che non sono mai avvenuti e opere in tedesco trascritte in inglese", tanto per dare meglio l'impressione di un essere servile e vigliacco, culturalmente parlando.