The song is commenting a bit on nationalism being mixed with faith/religion/Christianity. The song was inspired by George HW Bush saying in a speech that "God is on our side" when talking about the Gulf war.
The band does definitely have songs criticizing things like faith and Christianity, but you're right in this song being more about the American bastardization of Christianity. As an atheist, I find Jesus himself to be mostly a good influence, especially for the time. I have some issues with Yeshua/Jesus, especially the culty stuff like getting his followers to reject their families, but most of the morality presented is modern.
Sola Melodica thank you for underlining that creating the Image of an American Jesus is a Violation of the 10 Commandments! Never thought of it this way!
I always get nervous seeing anyone religious hearing this for the first time, but it seems like most have gotten what Greg was saying. I've seen a few get offended, but it's more of an indictment of an idea, and honestly has more to do with the blind nationalism that crept it's way into evangelical Christianity in the early 90s and just never went away. Love your take and your interpretation. These are conversations that people of differing ideologies should be having.
The last line really gets at the root of it. “One nation, under god.” It’s really the idea of American exceptionalism. They find it absurd that Americans believe god is on their side because they’re American. Despite the name of the song, it’s really not actually about Jesus specifically.
Great to see this band and song are making waves and controversy decades later. On the flip side it is also good to see more open minded reviews on secular material like this, especially when discussing sensitive topics like religion and politics. For me, the song is more directed at the fundamentalist religious types, those who 'feel entitled' because of what they believe. It also highlights just how powerful this line of thinking has ingrained itself so deeply into some societies, in this example the USA. I also have to say that it was this band that taught me it is ok to ask questions and challenge authority - this is difficult when you are brought up in a very conservative Christian home and community where the Bible is the 'answer to everything.' I was 12 years old when I first heard Bad Religion, didn't know what the lyrics meant at the time, I just connected somehow with the passion and the brutal honesty of how they sounded. Punk rock became extremely important to me, as it permeated exactly how I felt with the world, religion and the human condition. It was only in my twenties when I actually sat down and decided to educate myself with what was happening in the world of science - and boy was I surprised and shocked at the same time. For a long time my beliefs in this Christian god and all the stories in the Bible, and generally how I was feeling inside just didn't add up - in actual fact the more I tried to get closer to this jesus guy, the more distant and alone I felt. So when I started doing all this research on what evolution and big bang theory actually is, it was much different than what my 'horse-blindered' mind at the time imagined. I am almost 40 now and it staggers me how so many people can still rigidly hold onto the Christian faith - because the evidence is abundantly clear that god didn't create us in incognito in perfection, rather we are the result of millions of years of natural selection, death and suffering of many creatures long before we existed. When I realized this, it painted a completely different picture of our maker and his/its agenda to me, one of complete distrust. So naturally over the years to follow, I distanced myself from religion and this 'faith' and quite honestly I have never felt more free and honest with myself. I no longer do acts of good will because this god is watching and will reward me with 'a place to go when I die.' I rather do good things because I genuinely care about others based on a simple thing called empathy. Anyway what exists beyond our physical realm is anyone's guess right now, but to fill that guess with the man made construct of religion has caused more problems than anything else. Anyway thanks for reading and hopefully more religious types will wake up and smell the coffee someday
Wretched Knave, thanks for the taking the time to write out such a thoughtful comment. Your willingness to share is greatly appreciated. It's challenging to truly dig deep into the nuance of what the Bible teaches and to sift through the thousands of years of solid support of it's reliability and authenticity. Circular arguments are much easier - and more harmful. Since you're an open-minded person, I would encourage you to check out some of the research conducted by Dr. John Lennox and Dr. William Craig Lane. Thanks for connecting!
I've gone the opposite direction. I was extremely liberal in my late teens and early twenties and thought religion was useless at best and destructively cancerous at worst. I'm 41 now and you could take basically anything I believed 20 years ago, flip it 180 degrees, and that's about where I am now. I still listen to most of the punk music I did twenty years ago although I can't do the most political stuff because I find the ideology braindead. Bad Religion I still like though I'm sure they'd think I'm a racist white supremacist bigot. That's fine.
I always felt that this song was more a criticism on 90's American evangelicalism and its influence on nationalism rather than religion itself. Though Greg Graffin is an atheist, Bad Religion has always been more socio-political than anti-religion. Thank you for a fair take on one of my favorite bands.
@@SolaMelodica they came up with the band name when they were 15 cause they thought it was edgy and got a reaction. This song was written nearly 13 years later. The singer has PhD from Cornell in zoology so it’s obvious he doesn’t believe in creationism.
It is basically a timeless song about a nationwide issue that seems to never let up. Basically it mimics Christian Nationalism. After January 6, 2021 it’s become even more timeless.
@@clamum9648 The “Christian nationalism” has found its way more and more into politics. Just look at some of the laws being passed about the Ten Commandments and requiring Bible instruction at public schools.
This is an extremely fun song with lyrics that go way below the surface! If my analysis is remotely accurate there are some fair criticisms made by the author.
I was 16 when this song (and album) came out in 1993 and have always loved it. I take these lyrics to mean something a little more elusive than simply Christianity mixing with American nationalism, although clearly that its part of it. American Jesus is about the human drive for domination over others. Not sure how Greg Graffin (vocalist, lyricist) would conceptualize such an idea, but all the different phenomenon he points to so eloquently and powerfully in the song, especially the line "the kids with no moms," "and I'm fearful he's inside me," suggest the dark and brutal side of humanity; no love or empathy, just the will to power. The desire to seek power and dominate, quite a salient and singular manifold expression in the world in the form of the United States in 1993 was the inspiration for the song. And what a song it is.
This song is about American Evangelicals and really Protestants in general pushing faith and nationalism on others and involving religion in areas of life where it should have no part.
Appreciate the reaction. I'm not religious or a believer anymore, but really respect those that are and you listening to this song with an open mind! Keep spreading love!
Punk vs politics as it always has been. This song came out during the gulf war...so apply that to your thoughts on the song and listen to the song again. It will make sense
I’m a non-believer, so we do disagree on that right from the start-that being said, I certainly will be coming back to enjoy more of your content! Very articulate and non-patronizing. Thanks for uploading!
If you enjoyed the lyrics to this song. Check out "Struck a Nerve". It has nothing to do with religion, but has everything to do with the ugly truths of the human condition. Greg Graffin and Brett Gurewitz are both such incredible poets.
The singer of this band is Greg Graffin, who has also written a book called "Anarchy Evolution: Faith, Science, and Bad Religion in a World Without God", if you want to learn more about his views on the subject.
Great video, I really like how you actually dissect the lyrics properly. The lyrics are where Bad Religion shines and this aspect is often overlooked a bit in these videos. In general I'd say you're quite spot on with the interpretation. With regard to the bridge (the force that drives the clan... etc). I don't think they mean Jesus in particular, but rather the "American Jesus". The false feeling that there's some divine exceptionalism of the US coming from above. This is a driving force of many evils, like the wars commited in the name of religion.
I stumbled across your reaction randomly and I am pleasantly surprised on your fairly accurate interpretation. As others have commented, the song is a absolutely about American nationalist evangelicalism, released in 1993 but as relevant today as it was then. Dr Greg Graffin, the lead singer and lyricist, has an amazing ability to cram complex concepts into the very short format of punk rock. Though I'd encourage you to check out their entire catalog, might I suggest "Don't Pray on Me: from the same album (Recipe for Hate (1993), "The Answer" from the album Generator (1992), or "God Song" from the album Against the Grain (1990). I also encourage you to read any of Greg's books, particularly the co-written (credited to Preston Jones) "Is Belief in God Good, Bad Or Irrelevant? A Professor and a Punk Rocker Discuss Science, Religion, Naturalism & Christianity." The format of the book is an ongoing, years-long email exchange between Graffin and Dr Preston Jones, a History professor at John Brown University (a Christian university). It's a challenging, but fascinating read.
@@SolaMelodica The band has been around for 40 years, Graffin teaches at UCLA and got his PHD from Cornell. They are another level of thoughtful lyricism and poignant, educated challenges to convention. Enjoy the journey :)
Hi.. Greedings from Germany.. In this way,,, Bad Religion,,... (love this Band since end 80,s)..try some german Punk stuff. :"Slime-mea culpa" (*this Song is about sexual abuse to children, by members of catholic church, in the last 40 year here in Germany,,.. /the Ref. translate:go to hell! - I Show you the way.. And a lot of very bad words🙊).. So many quitt with the church, After These crimes came out, here. ::enjoy a Bit, without understanding All lyrics, ✌️
"American Jesus" is a take on the idea that God favors America, rather than other countries. Greg Graffin said "During the Gulf War, George Bush said, 'We'll win, because God is on our side!." The song touches on Global Imperialism, Antisemitism, War, and Religion.
You're pretty well hitting the idea out of the park. The songs about the way evangelical Christianity and nationalism has entwined itself into a sort of Frankenstein's monster here in the US. How we ignore the message of Christianity and have an "American" idea of it. The background lyrics where they call god one of "us" spells it out And I like the self reflection, "I'm afraid he's inside me." I'd be afraid to based on what we do in the name of God here.
American Jesus" takes on the idea that God favors America, rather than other countries. Greg Graffin said "During the Gulf War, George Bush said, 'We'll win, because God is on our side!'.
The audio is somewhat echoed but the reaction I think is spot on. Making God in our own image is what they probably were getting at here. Specified on homeland 'cause of the power Americans possess over other nations, and the option to enforce it, if felt necessary.
Complex lyrics alright. Anyone who can make it through the entirety of Bad Religion lyrics without needing a dictionary or thesaurus at least once is my hero! Their singer/songwriter Greg Graffin is an evolutionary biologist who taught courses at Cornell University.
@@SolaMelodica I listen to any good music but I’ve been listening to BR specifically since the early nineties. I just love the irony that one of the greatest punk bands of all times has the most sophisticated, eloquently phrased lyrics of any band in any genre. I just love the contrast of the outside appearance associated with punk vs. the intellectual level their lyrics are on. 😉 The only sad thing about Bad Religion is that their criticism of society unfortunately only rings truer and truer with the years.
The song is about the blending of religion and nationalism in the US. Also, very intense when performed live. We're not one nation under God? We're not supposed to be, one's religion and one's nations should be entirely separate from each other.
Kudos for listening to this. Great song. One comment I'll make is that part of US nationalism and exceptionalism is also assuming that migrants want to come to the US solely for prosperity. Could there be other reasons? Most Americans aren't aware of the history of US foreign policy.
Thanks for commenting. Yes, you're totally right. Many reasons to come to the US besides $$. Many of our ancestors who came here long ago did so for various freedoms and to escape severe persecution.
@@SolaMelodica this kind of thinking is what this song is taking aim at here could it be that people are comming to the US to avoid bombs that are being dropped on their country BY the USA this song is against christian nationalism which is tied up at the end with "One nation under god" something america should never be
It's obvious that this is an overt hit on the fact that America has a strong and somewhat alien take on Christianity. The song writer gets that Jesus was an ancient Jew. He gets that many other countries and peoples would have a wiser understanding of this religion in it's earliest stages. He actually thinks Christianity is garbage, but won't dismiss it entirely due to his actual free thought. Thought that he might hate but, free though is King. You can hate Christians but .... If you want to hear them actually hate on Christians, just listen to some more of their songs. Remarkably, it doesn't take away much from their direct approach to the truth. They seem to exemplify the idea that you can get to the truth regardless of your religious affiliation. Then they go on to kick your ass for having one, at all. Sort of rude whether christian, hindu, buddhist, or zoroastrian, but, whatever.
I agree American Jesus was VERY well written. Interesting, I had to read your comment a couple of times...I've never of heard of them before. I just checked the lyrics (out of extreme curiosity) and they definitely seem intriguing and quite challenging. Who knows???
American Jesus was well written, but I meant their entire discography over 40 year span is incredible and thought provoking. They speak on a variety of social issues, and the use of religion and politics as a power grab at the expense of others, the environment, etc is heard throughout many of their songs. (I.e, I want to conquer the world) I mentioned Screeching weasels science of myth, because I always got the approach they took was very interesting. They also realize the problems with religion, but conclude it really doesn’t matter if what you believe in is actually true, so long as what you believe in is helping you through life. I think I kind of agree that with this, but with the stipulation that what you believe and does it hurt others, Or is not used to hurt others. I really appreciate you posting this on here and really appreciate your perspective.
Bad religion also does an entire album of old Christmas songs. The album is called Christmas songs. It’s a pretty amazing spin on the songs and they actually do a great job. Highly recommend you check it out
Really liked your take on this! As others said it's not so much a criticism of the church in this song as it is a criticism of American exceptionalism.
@@ashraffaridharis5570 American exceptionalism is this old and still powerful idea that the USA is special, usually religiously, that we were allowed to form due to God's grace, and that we should fulfill his wish by spreading "American values", such as government by the wealthy and white supremacy.
Numbers verse 11 i think tells you to get an abortion from your Rabbi if you have ceated so the bible is pro abortion. And the singer/songwriter is a PHD and professor and has been for a few decades, was when this song was written
"this is crazy", let me move on. Sounds like the typical person in a position of power. All you did here was reinforce my thoughts that organized religion is killing the world. Good work my man.
Kia ora hello from Aotearoa new zealand. Hay I'm going to be seeing BAD RELIGION AND SOCIAL DISTORTION TOGETHER ONE SHOW IN FEBRUARY I'M LIKE A KID WAITING FOR CHRISTMAS COUNTING DOWN THE DAY'S I JUST HOPE MY TIRED OLD BODY CAN HANDLE IT 😜👍✌️ This is a show I've been waiting for over half my 53 years on starship earth 🌍 it had better be a great gig I've brought four tickets for me and three friends who are big fans but family life means that they don't have $200 for a ticket my boss has an account with the ticket agent so i pay it back weekly not so painful but $800 for a gig is getting up there but i know that my friends would do the same for me if it was the other way around one of them Keg rang me up about 15 years ago Bro do you want to Go to THE SPECIALS THIS WEEKEND? I WAS BUMMING OUT I'D MISSED OUT ON A TICKET SOLD OUT AND NEXT MINUTE I'VE GOT A SHIT EATING GRIN ON MY FACE I WAS GOING TO SEE ONE OF THE GREATEST SKA BAND'S EVER
I think it’s more about. If there’s a god. Americans have a good life. Why don’t all his people enjoy the same benefits as an American. All the people around the world don’t enjoy his punishment!
I'm not 100% sure i am tracking. Is your question why don't all of God's people enjoy the good life like most Americans? Good question. I'm wondering why Americans think they deserve s life of luxury.
Great reaction. I get faith in humanity and America to see that you dared to listen and comment on this song. Nothing is one-sided and there is always another view on things. I would love to see you react to some really heavy music, why not try out Pantokrator Crossroads. ua-cam.com/video/sBxwwfaN2CQ/v-deo.html They are Christan death metal band from Sweden.
@@SolaMelodica It would be an interesting reaction for sure. I believe that reactions should be to something new to the listener and I think that will be it. Thanks.
Hm, interesting but like 10 other US reactions on Bad Religion it seams like u US boys don´t realy get it. Thats why Bad Religion was kind of a very big deal in Europe back in the days, but not in the US. They target the whole society, the mention of "Religion" or "Jesus" in this song or the name of the band is not the main point. It only comes along with our problemes in moral and ethic.
This song has stuck with me for years. It’s a story on how my generation views religion. You say Christianity has declined but no one has done more damage to it than Christians themselves. They’ve used Jesus to justify their own greed and bigotry.
We're not supposed to be "one nation under god." Hence why we have a freedom of, and freedom FROM religion. People that want a theocratic nation should look towards places like Saudi Arabia instead.
i think the founders wrote it perfectly. You're definitely correct about looking to other nations that have a single religion. could be "be careful what you ask for"
The fact that you even feel inclined to have to explain that Jesus lived in Palestine and not in America, is exactly the problem that this song is about. We know why you felt like adding that info in there. Cause too many in this country actually believe in the American Jesus. Having spent many years in Europe, I can tell you that it’s an international embarrassment. Definitely.
@@SolaMelodica Anything, that helps with the algorithm! And having lived in Europe for many years, I can tell you the secret answer to your question, why that is the fact. It’s because in the vast majority of cases, there was a reason the people in Europe put those religious nut cases on boats and told them to go try their luck on the other side of the damn ocean. That’s how we wound up with this extremely high percentage of extreme religious nut cases in this country. Of course that is not the myth that we Americans tell us about ourselves, but it is the truth. Sounds much better that we all “came here for freedom!”. No, there’s a reason a lot of those nut cases got kicked out.
I would love to have a conversation around this.. I think you missed some of the message. You did get some good points but I think you missed the overall message
@@SolaMelodica ay va! Si incluso le puso la tilde, solo si a usted le interesa, Greg Graffin es un grandísimo letrista, conciso Solamente opino que la fe en Dios, en que sea parte de tu vida cotidiana, debe ser una opción personal,entender por uno mismo porque es creyente o porqué decide no serlo Un saludo
Yes, we often are known, regrettably, for our cockiness. Sorry, my French is so very basic and I won't attempt to to answer in that manner. Blessings, Pierre.
You are super cool. You also believe Jesus exists which is this whole songs point of he doesnt. But as an atheisy i love blibers cause yoru hope and prayers remind me of a young childish me.. One day we will all be adults and know our tooth fairty isnt real
Interesting back handed compliment....I think. You need to do a bit more research. The Bible has endured centuries of scrutiny - the tooth fair not so much. thanks for chiming in ---- don't be a stranger.
Hes referencing for the most part how the pledge of allegiance says "One nation under god". As if god has Americas back more than everywhere else on the planet. Or as if we are more deserving of God/jesus love and protection. Also at the beginning he says "see him on the interstate" I think hes referring to bumper stickers like on the back of vehicles. I think he means its almost like a brand. Something to sell as a product. You did hit the head on the nail about "one nation under god". Also at the end he says alot of things that would probably be taken offensive at first listen to Cristian ears. I think hes implying that alot of Americans subconsciously imply they are more important and are just all around better people with better values and morals and are more deserving of a higher powers love. The lead singer is a college professor at UCLA. His name is greg graffin if you ever want to look him up. Im a huge bad religion fan and my parents were christian and my father would smash all my bad religion albums without actually looking into what there message was. Its very refreshing that you actually sit down and listen to the music with a open mind and talk about it. I think if my parents did that they might understand more about the band and what there actual message and meanings of the songs were. You are literally the most awesome reverend ever and I wish there were more like you. I think if there were this world would be a more understanding and compassionate place.🤟
The song is commenting a bit on nationalism being mixed with faith/religion/Christianity. The song was inspired by George HW Bush saying in a speech that "God is on our side" when talking about the Gulf war.
thanks for that info. Totally makes sense. Great song. Not sure where I have been???
The band does definitely have songs criticizing things like faith and Christianity, but you're right in this song being more about the American bastardization of Christianity.
As an atheist, I find Jesus himself to be mostly a good influence, especially for the time. I have some issues with Yeshua/Jesus, especially the culty stuff like getting his followers to reject their families, but most of the morality presented is modern.
I'm a long time bad religion fan and didn't know it was inspired by bush, thanks for the info
Thank you for breaking it down...this comment is on point!
Sola Melodica thank you for underlining that creating the Image of an American Jesus is a Violation of the 10 Commandments! Never thought of it this way!
I always get nervous seeing anyone religious hearing this for the first time, but it seems like most have gotten what Greg was saying. I've seen a few get offended, but it's more of an indictment of an idea, and honestly has more to do with the blind nationalism that crept it's way into evangelical Christianity in the early 90s and just never went away. Love your take and your interpretation. These are conversations that people of differing ideologies should be having.
thanks for contributing. I totally agree. The conversations might be a bit challenging but they are helpful.
Exactly, and it was during the gulf war when he wrote it. The nationalism was at a fevered pitch.
I'd almost argue this song is pro-religion in some ways. Just anti-propaganda and the way religion is used as for that purpose.
The last line really gets at the root of it. “One nation, under god.”
It’s really the idea of American exceptionalism. They find it absurd that Americans believe god is on their side because they’re American. Despite the name of the song, it’s really not actually about Jesus specifically.
Thanks for the comment. We're definitely in agreement on that point - absurdity that God is "on the side" of Americans.
Great to see this band and song are making waves and controversy decades later. On the flip side it is also good to see more open minded reviews on secular material like this, especially when discussing sensitive topics like religion and politics. For me, the song is more directed at the fundamentalist religious types, those who 'feel entitled' because of what they believe. It also highlights just how powerful this line of thinking has ingrained itself so deeply into some societies, in this example the USA. I also have to say that it was this band that taught me it is ok to ask questions and challenge authority - this is difficult when you are brought up in a very conservative Christian home and community where the Bible is the 'answer to everything.' I was 12 years old when I first heard Bad Religion, didn't know what the lyrics meant at the time, I just connected somehow with the passion and the brutal honesty of how they sounded. Punk rock became extremely important to me, as it permeated exactly how I felt with the world, religion and the human condition. It was only in my twenties when I actually sat down and decided to educate myself with what was happening in the world of science - and boy was I surprised and shocked at the same time. For a long time my beliefs in this Christian god and all the stories in the Bible, and generally how I was feeling inside just didn't add up - in actual fact the more I tried to get closer to this jesus guy, the more distant and alone I felt. So when I started doing all this research on what evolution and big bang theory actually is, it was much different than what my 'horse-blindered' mind at the time imagined.
I am almost 40 now and it staggers me how so many people can still rigidly hold onto the Christian faith - because the evidence is abundantly clear that god didn't create us in incognito in perfection, rather we are the result of millions of years of natural selection, death and suffering of many creatures long before we existed. When I realized this, it painted a completely different picture of our maker and his/its agenda to me, one of complete distrust. So naturally over the years to follow, I distanced myself from religion and this 'faith' and quite honestly I have never felt more free and honest with myself. I no longer do acts of good will because this god is watching and will reward me with 'a place to go when I die.' I rather do good things because I genuinely care about others based on a simple thing called empathy. Anyway what exists beyond our physical realm is anyone's guess right now, but to fill that guess with the man made construct of religion has caused more problems than anything else. Anyway thanks for reading and hopefully more religious types will wake up and smell the coffee someday
Wretched Knave, thanks for the taking the time to write out such a thoughtful comment. Your willingness to share is greatly appreciated.
It's challenging to truly dig deep into the nuance of what the Bible teaches and to sift through the thousands of years of solid support of it's reliability and authenticity. Circular arguments are much easier - and more harmful.
Since you're an open-minded person, I would encourage you to check out some of the research conducted by Dr. John Lennox and Dr. William Craig Lane.
Thanks for connecting!
I've gone the opposite direction. I was extremely liberal in my late teens and early twenties and thought religion was useless at best and destructively cancerous at worst.
I'm 41 now and you could take basically anything I believed 20 years ago, flip it 180 degrees, and that's about where I am now.
I still listen to most of the punk music I did twenty years ago although I can't do the most political stuff because I find the ideology braindead. Bad Religion I still like though I'm sure they'd think I'm a racist white supremacist bigot. That's fine.
I always felt that this song was more a criticism on 90's American evangelicalism and its influence on nationalism rather than religion itself. Though Greg Graffin is an atheist, Bad Religion has always been more socio-political than anti-religion. Thank you for a fair take on one of my favorite bands.
Thanks for the comment, Rick. They are a really fun band! I definitely need to listen to some more of their stuff.
@@SolaMelodica they came up with the band name when they were 15 cause they thought it was edgy and got a reaction. This song was written nearly 13 years later. The singer has PhD from Cornell in zoology so it’s obvious he doesn’t believe in creationism.
It is basically a timeless song about a nationwide issue that seems to never let up. Basically it mimics Christian Nationalism. After January 6, 2021 it’s become even more timeless.
@@ecoRfan Why do you think it's become more timeless or poignant after Jan 6 2021?
@@clamum9648 The “Christian nationalism” has found its way more and more into politics. Just look at some of the laws being passed about the Ten Commandments and requiring Bible instruction at public schools.
This is an extremely fun song with lyrics that go way below the surface! If my analysis is remotely accurate there are some fair criticisms made by the author.
I was 16 when this song (and album) came out in 1993 and have always loved it. I take these lyrics to mean something a little more elusive than simply Christianity mixing with American nationalism, although clearly that its part of it. American Jesus is about the human drive for domination over others. Not sure how Greg Graffin (vocalist, lyricist) would conceptualize such an idea, but all the different phenomenon he points to so eloquently and powerfully in the song, especially the line "the kids with no moms," "and I'm fearful he's inside me," suggest the dark and brutal side of humanity; no love or empathy, just the will to power. The desire to seek power and dominate, quite a salient and singular manifold expression in the world in the form of the United States in 1993 was the inspiration for the song. And what a song it is.
You are only one step from being free. Embrace it..
This song is about American Evangelicals and really Protestants in general pushing faith and nationalism on others and involving religion in areas of life where it should have no part.
thanks for the contribution. We agree, partially. Nationalism and Christianity are incompatible.
Appreciate the reaction. I'm not religious or a believer anymore, but really respect those that are and you listening to this song with an open mind! Keep spreading love!
Punk vs politics as it always has been. This song came out during the gulf war...so apply that to your thoughts on the song and listen to the song again. It will make sense
I’m a non-believer, so we do disagree on that right from the start-that being said, I certainly will be coming back to enjoy more of your content! Very articulate and non-patronizing. Thanks for uploading!
thanks, Chris. This was a legit first take on this song. Super talented band in every way imaginable.
If you enjoyed the lyrics to this song. Check out "Struck a Nerve". It has nothing to do with religion, but has everything to do with the ugly truths of the human condition. Greg Graffin and Brett Gurewitz are both such incredible poets.
Lol it´s always weird for me when people think that the song is about Jesus being ACTUALLY american...
The singer of this band is Greg Graffin, who has also written a book called "Anarchy Evolution: Faith, Science, and Bad Religion in a World Without God", if you want to learn more about his views on the subject.
thanks for the comment and the book recommendation. Always up for a good read.
Kudos to reviewing this song, it’s one of my favorites.
thank you. These guys are geniuses.
Great video, I really like how you actually dissect the lyrics properly. The lyrics are where Bad Religion shines and this aspect is often overlooked a bit in these videos. In general I'd say you're quite spot on with the interpretation.
With regard to the bridge (the force that drives the clan... etc). I don't think they mean Jesus in particular, but rather the "American Jesus". The false feeling that there's some divine exceptionalism of the US coming from above. This is a driving force of many evils, like the wars commited in the name of religion.
thank you. These guys are on a different plane lyrically. So good.
I stumbled across your reaction randomly and I am pleasantly surprised on your fairly accurate interpretation. As others have commented, the song is a absolutely about American nationalist evangelicalism, released in 1993 but as relevant today as it was then. Dr Greg Graffin, the lead singer and lyricist, has an amazing ability to cram complex concepts into the very short format of punk rock. Though I'd encourage you to check out their entire catalog, might I suggest "Don't Pray on Me: from the same album (Recipe for Hate (1993), "The Answer" from the album Generator (1992), or "God Song" from the album Against the Grain (1990). I also encourage you to read any of Greg's books, particularly the co-written (credited to Preston Jones) "Is Belief in God Good, Bad Or Irrelevant? A Professor and a Punk Rocker Discuss Science, Religion, Naturalism & Christianity." The format of the book is an ongoing, years-long email exchange between Graffin and Dr Preston Jones, a History professor at John Brown University (a Christian university). It's a challenging, but fascinating read.
Wow, thanks for the great info. I thoroughly enjoyed their music and will do a deeper dive soon. The book sounds quite interesting as well.
@@SolaMelodica The band has been around for 40 years, Graffin teaches at UCLA and got his PHD from Cornell. They are another level of thoughtful lyricism and poignant, educated challenges to convention. Enjoy the journey :)
@@BillGardiner Awesome!
@@BillGardiner my only correction is that he teaches at Cornell and received his PhD from UCLA.
@@njmicp derp, thank you. My fingers and brain weren't aligned on that one.
The lyrics refer to the original gulf War when Bush 1 said the Americans and allies would win because Jesus is on our side
This is a song that jabs American Evangelicasim
Definitely a well written song. The lyricist is a genius.
FYI you can click anywhere on the screen to pause the video, or just hit the space bar
even for a mac? thanks, always up to learn something new. Nice for this old dog to learn new tricks.
I am not a believer. I do believe in the good of humanity. And you, dear Sola, make want to believe in reverants as well. 👌
Hi.. Greedings from Germany.. In this way,,, Bad Religion,,... (love this Band since end 80,s)..try some german Punk stuff.
:"Slime-mea culpa" (*this Song is about sexual abuse to children, by members of catholic church, in the last 40 year here in Germany,,.. /the Ref. translate:go to hell! - I Show you the way.. And a lot of very bad words🙊).. So many quitt with the church, After These crimes came out, here. ::enjoy a Bit, without understanding All lyrics, ✌️
When the Rev. says that he is uncertain, if the writer thinks that Jesus is this, I wanted to answer ‚No, not the real Jesus! The AMERICAN Jesus!‘
Thanks for contributing, Phil. Not sure what your point is exactly.
Another great reaction video. Some things to really consider
thanks!
"American Jesus" is a take on the idea that God favors America, rather than other countries. Greg Graffin said "During the Gulf War, George Bush said, 'We'll win, because God is on our side!." The song touches on Global Imperialism, Antisemitism, War, and Religion.
Appreciate how you're getting the message of the song (according to my interpretation). Political Christianity is a problem
You're pretty well hitting the idea out of the park. The songs about the way evangelical Christianity and nationalism has entwined itself into a sort of Frankenstein's monster here in the US. How we ignore the message of Christianity and have an "American" idea of it. The background lyrics where they call god one of "us" spells it out
And I like the self reflection, "I'm afraid he's inside me." I'd be afraid to based on what we do in the name of God here.
Great song.
American Jesus" takes on the idea that God favors America, rather than other countries. Greg Graffin said "During the Gulf War, George Bush said, 'We'll win, because God is on our side!'.
Stumbled on this by pure chance, the Bob Dylan song with god on our side has a similar message
interesting.
The audio is somewhat echoed but the reaction I think is spot on.
Making God in our own image is what they probably were getting at here.
Specified on homeland 'cause of the power Americans possess over other
nations, and the option to enforce it, if felt necessary.
Yes, this is one of the first videos I recorded and the audio quality is improving incrementally. Thanks, Pekka.
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Thanks! Greetings!
Complex lyrics alright.
Anyone who can make it through the entirety of Bad Religion lyrics without needing a dictionary or thesaurus at least once is my hero!
Their singer/songwriter Greg Graffin is an evolutionary biologist who taught courses at Cornell University.
amazing and then to put the lyrics to music. Brilliant.
@@SolaMelodica I listen to any good music but I’ve been listening to BR specifically since the early nineties.
I just love the irony that one of the greatest punk bands of all times has the most sophisticated, eloquently phrased lyrics of any band in any genre.
I just love the contrast of the outside appearance associated with punk vs. the intellectual level their lyrics are on. 😉
The only sad thing about Bad Religion is that their criticism of society unfortunately only rings truer and truer with the years.
Bad Religion and Pennywise were my bands growing. Nice review 🙂
I've not heard Pennywise yet. I guess I have more music to listen to!
@@SolaMelodica Start with 'Land of the free' but they're all good. ua-cam.com/video/zhKErVfFphQ/v-deo.html
Thank you.
Christianity is relatively new in America,having only came about in the 16 century
Check out Bad Religions Christmas album.
The song is about the blending of religion and nationalism in the US. Also, very intense when performed live. We're not one nation under God? We're not supposed to be, one's religion and one's nations should be entirely separate from each other.
I bet it's super wild live.
at least you listened :)
reverend you are first class
Oh preacher man you should do Sorrow by Bad Religion. I would love to hear what you have to say.
Kudos for listening to this. Great song. One comment I'll make is that part of US nationalism and exceptionalism is also assuming that migrants want to come to the US solely for prosperity. Could there be other reasons? Most Americans aren't aware of the history of US foreign policy.
Thanks for commenting. Yes, you're totally right. Many reasons to come to the US besides $$. Many of our ancestors who came here long ago did so for various freedoms and to escape severe persecution.
@@SolaMelodica this kind of thinking is what this song is taking aim at here could it be that people are comming to the US to avoid bombs that are being dropped on their country BY the USA
this song is against christian nationalism which is tied up at the end with "One nation under god" something america should never be
It's obvious that this is an overt hit on the fact that America has a strong and somewhat alien take on Christianity. The song writer gets that Jesus was an ancient Jew. He gets that many other countries and peoples would have a wiser understanding of this religion in it's earliest stages. He actually thinks Christianity is garbage, but won't dismiss it entirely due to his actual free thought. Thought that he might hate but, free though is King. You can hate Christians but ....
If you want to hear them actually hate on Christians, just listen to some more of their songs.
Remarkably, it doesn't take away much from their direct approach to the truth. They seem to exemplify the idea that you can get to the truth regardless of your religious affiliation. Then they go on to kick your ass for having one, at all. Sort of rude whether christian, hindu, buddhist, or zoroastrian, but, whatever.
The song is about everyone thinks God is on their side in war.
Like queen says, “another one missed the point!😂
This is a response to conservative evangelicals like the Heritage Foundation
The fact that you tried to turn this song into some forced birth talking point is wild my dude.
GREAT american punk band and great song...............
glad to see ya liked it
I should've heard this a long time ago. Great song!!
Bad Religion rocks!!! Your all allowed your own opinions just don't force them upon others
40 years of some of most thought provoking lyrics you’ll ever hear. I’d like to hear thoughts on science of myth by screeching weasel.
I agree American Jesus was VERY well written.
Interesting, I had to read your comment a couple of times...I've never of heard of them before. I just checked the lyrics (out of extreme curiosity) and they definitely seem intriguing and quite challenging. Who knows???
American Jesus was well written, but I meant their entire discography over 40 year span is incredible and thought provoking. They speak on a variety of social issues, and the use of religion and politics as a power grab at the expense of others, the environment, etc is heard throughout many of their songs. (I.e, I want to conquer the world) I mentioned Screeching weasels science of myth, because I always got the approach they took was very interesting. They also realize the problems with religion, but conclude it really doesn’t matter if what you believe in is actually true, so long as what you believe in is helping you through life. I think I kind of agree that with this, but with the stipulation that what you believe and does it hurt others, Or is not used to hurt others. I really appreciate you posting this on here and really appreciate your perspective.
Bad religion also does an entire album of old Christmas songs. The album is called Christmas songs. It’s a pretty amazing spin on the songs and they actually do a great job. Highly recommend you check it out
Really liked your take on this! As others said it's not so much a criticism of the church in this song as it is a criticism of American exceptionalism.
thanks, Nick. Greatly appreciated!
what the hell is exceptionalism?
@@ashraffaridharis5570 American exceptionalism is this old and still powerful idea that the USA is special, usually religiously, that we were allowed to form due to God's grace, and that we should fulfill his wish by spreading "American values", such as government by the wealthy and white supremacy.
@@JtheCritic ahhh gotcha. Reminds me of American jesus by bad religion
Numbers verse 11 i think tells you to get an abortion from your Rabbi if you have ceated so the bible is pro abortion. And the singer/songwriter is a PHD and professor and has been for a few decades, was when this song was written
"this is crazy", let me move on. Sounds like the typical person in a position of power. All you did here was reinforce my thoughts that organized religion is killing the world. Good work my man.
The goggles that the singer had on are used for nuclear bomb testing. You should check out Atomic Garden.
Try NOFX - Best God In Show
Thanks for the suggestion!
It took a while but you got there in the end - the song is a harsh critique of Prosperity Gospel.
When you are immigrant like me you realy feel it.
Guy gets the meaning
Brilliant lyrics. Welcome!!
Check out Thrice - words in the water. You won’t regret it.
There was some good reflection on Christianity during the video, but I feel like you went off the rails at the end on abortion.
Kia ora hello from Aotearoa new zealand. Hay I'm going to be seeing BAD RELIGION AND SOCIAL DISTORTION TOGETHER ONE SHOW IN FEBRUARY I'M LIKE A KID WAITING FOR CHRISTMAS COUNTING DOWN THE DAY'S I JUST HOPE MY TIRED OLD BODY CAN HANDLE IT 😜👍✌️ This is a show I've been waiting for over half my 53 years on starship earth 🌍 it had better be a great gig I've brought four tickets for me and three friends who are big fans but family life means that they don't have $200 for a ticket my boss has an account with the ticket agent so i pay it back weekly not so painful but $800 for a gig is getting up there but i know that my friends would do the same for me if it was the other way around one of them Keg rang me up about 15 years ago Bro do you want to Go to THE SPECIALS THIS WEEKEND?
I WAS BUMMING OUT I'D MISSED OUT ON A TICKET SOLD OUT AND NEXT MINUTE I'VE GOT A SHIT EATING GRIN ON MY FACE I WAS GOING TO SEE ONE OF THE GREATEST SKA BAND'S EVER
I think it’s more about. If there’s a god. Americans have a good life. Why don’t all his people enjoy the same benefits as an American. All the people around the world don’t enjoy his punishment!
I'm not 100% sure i am tracking. Is your question why don't all of God's people enjoy the good life like most Americans? Good question.
I'm wondering why Americans think they deserve s life of luxury.
Not a bad take on the song, from an US Navy retired,... Atheist. It is more a reflection on the church (mega) but not a bad take man.
thanks, I will take "NOT BAD" on a song as complex as this.
First comment!
early riser!
Bad Religion is THE punk band.
Make sense to me.
Try NOFX - Leaving Jesusland.
thanks -- added it to the list.
Great reaction. I get faith in humanity and America to see that you dared to listen and comment on this song. Nothing is one-sided and there is always another view on things.
I would love to see you react to some really heavy music, why not try out Pantokrator Crossroads. ua-cam.com/video/sBxwwfaN2CQ/v-deo.html
They are Christan death metal band from Sweden.
Thanks for the recommendation!
@@SolaMelodica It would be an interesting reaction for sure. I believe that reactions should be to something new to the listener and I think that will be it. Thanks.
Hm, interesting but like 10 other US reactions on Bad Religion it seams like u US boys don´t realy get it. Thats why Bad Religion was kind of a very big deal in Europe back in the days, but not in the US. They target the whole society, the mention of "Religion" or "Jesus" in this song or the name of the band is not the main point. It only comes along with our problemes in moral and ethic.
It seemed like you just dismissed the criticism offered in the lyrics instead of directly addressing them.
American Reverb!
This song has stuck with me for years. It’s a story on how my generation views religion. You say Christianity has declined but no one has done more damage to it than Christians themselves. They’ve used Jesus to justify their own greed and bigotry.
Thanks for contributing to the conversation. Some indeed have used the name of Christ for greed. That's nothing new, regrettably.
We're not supposed to be "one nation under god." Hence why we have a freedom of, and freedom FROM religion. People that want a theocratic nation should look towards places like Saudi Arabia instead.
i think the founders wrote it perfectly. You're definitely correct about looking to other nations that have a single religion. could be "be careful what you ask for"
We do not need to return to biblical priorities, we need to dump the Bible.
The point of this entire song went way over your head my friend
If you believe in God I got some magic beans I willing to part with for the right price
The voice of God is government. Enough said
The fact that you even feel inclined to have to explain that Jesus lived in Palestine and not in America, is exactly the problem that this song is about.
We know why you felt like adding that info in there.
Cause too many in this country actually believe in the American Jesus.
Having spent many years in Europe, I can tell you that it’s an international embarrassment. Definitely.
Sigh. Agreed. I am not sure why this is the case but it needs to be constantly corrected and reinforced. Thanks for the contribution.
@@SolaMelodica Anything, that helps with the algorithm!
And having lived in Europe for many years, I can tell you the secret answer to your question, why that is the fact.
It’s because in the vast majority of cases, there was a reason the people in Europe put those religious nut cases on boats and told them to go try their luck on the other side of the damn ocean.
That’s how we wound up with this extremely high percentage of extreme religious nut cases in this country.
Of course that is not the myth that we Americans tell us about ourselves, but it is the truth. Sounds much better that we all “came here for freedom!”.
No, there’s a reason a lot of those nut cases got kicked out.
I would love to have a conversation around this.. I think you missed some of the message. You did get some good points but I think you missed the overall message
key word is : insta
Y que opina un europeo fan de Bad Religion de esta canción?
qué
@@SolaMelodica ay va! Si incluso le puso la tilde, solo si a usted le interesa, Greg Graffin es un grandísimo letrista, conciso
Solamente opino que la fe en Dios, en que sea parte de tu vida cotidiana, debe ser una opción personal,entender por uno mismo porque es creyente o porqué decide no serlo
Un saludo
@@arturmirreyes7254 Estoy de acuerdo en que es un gran compositor.
Por favor perdona mis habilidades lingüísticas
@@SolaMelodica jajaja
Tendría que ver usted las mías jugando al soccer!!
Totally missed BR's point.
are you certain?
reacion video idea..telling mormon jesus isnt american
dude i dont like to do this kind of comments but you get everything wrong.
Thanks for your thoughts and for listening.
dude. get headphones and turn off your speakers.
Thanks for the super kind suggestion
Toute l'arrogance d'une certaine amerique qui melange le temporel et le spirituel, voila la cible de cette chanson
Yes, we often are known, regrettably, for our cockiness. Sorry, my French is so very basic and I won't attempt to to answer in that manner. Blessings, Pierre.
You are super cool. You also believe Jesus exists which is this whole songs point of he doesnt. But as an atheisy i love blibers cause yoru hope and prayers remind me of a young childish me.. One day we will all be adults and know our tooth fairty isnt real
Interesting back handed compliment....I think. You need to do a bit more research. The Bible has endured centuries of scrutiny - the tooth fair not so much. thanks for chiming in ---- don't be a stranger.
That's not what the songs about at all.
Hes referencing for the most part how the pledge of allegiance says "One nation under god". As if god has Americas back more than everywhere else on the planet. Or as if we are more deserving of God/jesus love and protection. Also at the beginning he says "see him on the interstate" I think hes referring to bumper stickers like on the back of vehicles. I think he means its almost like a brand. Something to sell as a product. You did hit the head on the nail about "one nation under god". Also at the end he says alot of things that would probably be taken offensive at first listen to Cristian ears. I think hes implying that alot of Americans subconsciously imply they are more important and are just all around better people with better values and morals and are more deserving of a higher powers love. The lead singer is a college professor at UCLA. His name is greg graffin if you ever want to look him up. Im a huge bad religion fan and my parents were christian and my father would smash all my bad religion albums without actually looking into what there message was. Its very refreshing that you actually sit down and listen to the music with a open mind and talk about it. I think if my parents did that they might understand more about the band and what there actual message and meanings of the songs were. You are literally the most awesome reverend ever and I wish there were more like you. I think if there were this world would be a more understanding and compassionate place.🤟