This may sound arbitrary but I stopped playing after getting all 120 lightroot things. When I got the reward I suddenly had this feeling of resentment, like the game wasted my time. In botw when you got all 120 shrines you got a special outfit so I was expecting something similar for this, especially because of how grindy it is toward the back half. Instead you get a cosmetic medal for your inventory. Pretty big blunder IMO. Generally I enjoyed the new stuff- the new major dungeons in particular I thought were pretty consistently good and memorable. I also really liked the overworld caves. The problem is that the new stuff is a minor part of the experience. The journey to these new dungeons is virtually the same. To me, it feels like OOT Master Quest than Majora. As for the depths, they made a great first impression but after about 20 hours you realize there's not much to it, which is a real shame, because I really enjoyed it initially. Lastly, I would say that the vehicle stuff was a failure. In the early game, it's way too expensive and useless. You get punished for experimenting because you try to spend all your resources making a car that's slower than just sprinting. Then sometime in the midgame you suddenly get an abundance of fans and controllers, making the hoverbike insanely OP and completely trivializing the game. It practically feels like a no clip. I appreciate the effort put into the system but the result was ultimately disappointing. To summarize, if I could combine the two games into one, I would just take BOTW and add the overworld caves from TOTK. I think the guardians were a way better enemy than the phantom ganons, I think having a flying car available any time completely removes any tension, and I think the depths makes the map far, far too big with no payoff. I still got my money's worth playing it, but it's not Majora. Thanks for watching!
@@tin_sensei perfectly sums up how I feel about it, the map was the biggest selling point for botw which I’ve invested well over 200 plus hours in, I love all the call backs to the orders games which didn’t get paid off in totk I was just expecting a bit more of somethings and less of others But a good question is, if someone never played botw or totk and asked you which one should I get what would you say?
I see your concern about how the totk may not have as much exploration because they are reusing the map from botw, but the fact that we will have sky islands, caves, and maybe even underwater exploration makes me feel better. And who knows what kind of stuff they will add on land, I'm talking about possibly new villages and cool new landmarks. I think the game will satisfy us :)
As someone who poured over botw (only finished in summer last year) I’d be so disappointed if it took place in the same map. I like to take big open world games slow and take in all the details. Exploring the same map would feel incredibly cheap lol
@@Jeesh It's the same terrain/map, that's been established already. Of course they will add new models and remove some (probably) but reusing the map is actually brilliant.
I’m excited to use the same map, but with a lot of changes to the overworld. It’ll be like, “I know this map well but everything is different.” Puts a different spin on exploration and discovery!
And with the removal of shrines and towers(compare the footage of TOTK and the Current locations of Shrines and Towers of BOTW) TOTK Seems to have removed those so there most likely will be more than what they are showing us
@@Jeesh There will probably be more to the map, BUT The game has to use the same map from the first game because its a sequel and just add on from there with caves the sky and maybe underwater exploration though this is not confirmed
There's a cave entrance in a spot where there wasn't one in BotW. It's in the title reveal teaser, just before this moment you're showing at the 9:54 mark. I wouldn't be too concerned. Assuming the islands are all over the entirety of Hyrule, that's almost a whole map's worth of new terrain. Coupled with the fact that we'll probably be able to go underwater AND underground, the map could be up to three times larger vertically. That's also assuming the horizontal borders haven't been extended, which they very well could be. These changes are likely either not apparent at first glance/from afar, or they're purposely hiding them for now. The overworld being "the same" has been a known fact since shortly after the initial reveal. Aonuma confirmed it in an interview. So your confusion towards that was a bit perplexing to me. Yes, it's really weird they haven't shown much even 4+ months from release. But if this was a "60$ DLC", they wouldn't have taken almost six years to put it out. I trust the Zelda team. Let's just hope I'm right in doing so.
My thoughts exactly, if you watch closely in the last trailer, the islands in the sky even extend past the borders of the land onto the sea, which would make the possibility of those two being connected more significant. Also, things like the cave entrance in (apparently) the Faron region has me thinking that the overworld we know has been (although recognisable) drastically changed in terms of exploration possibilities. I’m not worried, but at this point they need to stop pulling a R* and just give us something already!! 😫😂
Yea exactly, either extended borders or island(s) would be cool. I do think they will do some form of surface world extension aside from the overworld renewal. When you said island, the first thing that popped into my mind was this one, do you remember that aside from eventide there was an unreachable island in the distance? The one that looks like two grassy pyramids next to each other. I’ve seen someone doing some out of bounds exploring and even though you’ll clip through it, it is still very much a 3D landscape. Aside from that it’s literally the only island aside from eventide that’s to be spotted when out on sea. Can’t wait to see what they’ve done man, but they reaallly need to show us something NOWWW. 🤣🤣
I disagree, but you laid out your points well and I enjoyed the video. I still have faith in the sequel for a couple reasons: I don’t think it’s fair to dismiss the “expanded world” from the delay since that was their main justification for the delay. It’s also not really fair to say “99%” of what we’re shown is the sky islands when you ignore the first trailer for dubious reasons. And finally even if the same map is reused, we can already see some pretty major changes with death mountain and weird symbols and the ground. I do agree that the exploration was the best part of botw, though. I just have faith they’ll be able to recreate that in the sequel. I guess we’ll find out soon!
Thank you for your comment. It's true that I did put less stock into the first trailer. It really does feel more like just a cutscene setting up the castle rising. Part of the reason I feel this way, which I did not put in the video, is that I think people were baited by the Breath of the Wild trailers before that game came out. The trailers featured a look at a Hyrule Castle town, but then in the game it ended up being one of the flashbacks that you discover and in the game, the town is gone. The trailers also featured a large cast of colorful characters, but then in the game half of these characters ended up being ghosts you only talked to as a reward for beating the bosses. Because of those examples, I chose to put more stock into the actual gameplay footage we've seen. Thank you again for watching.
@@tin_sensei This was a really well made video! I don’t agree with everything you said, and I feel like you are being a bit too pessimistic about the game, but I do feel like this is a good video to watch compared to some of the other totk videos out here. I feel like some people are getting a little too hyped for the game by putting out theories of some pretty far out ideas for the game and then treating like it’s a fact that the game will feature that. I definitely felt baited from the botw trailers and I don’t want to fall for that again. I still think that botw was an amazing game regardless of what the trailers made me think would happen. It does concern me that they haven’t released any gameplay, but I have faith in the Zelda team. If they say it’s gonna be something good, then I believe it will be. Also I think the idea of revisiting the old map is kinda exciting. It’s makes me wonder what kind of changes there will be to justify keeping it the same. Especially if they are taking out the 120 shrines I feel like they’ll be putting something good to replace it.
oh wow, it was only until i started scrolling into the comments after the video that i realized you dont even have a hundred subscribers. genuinely was expecting you to have at least 100k. keep it up dude, your content ensures success :) love how the algorithm has started occasionally pushing small creators
you have to think that BOTW was as you said groundbreaking, and they needed to prove themselves, but this is a sequel to that, the first Zelda game that takes place directly after the previous one in the same place, so if they reveal too much about what makes this one different, it might spoil the experience. This game IS gonna be huge, given how much time has been put into it.
Speculation: the beginning of the game will be in default Hyrule, but when Link and Zelda find the mummy, Zelda falls, Link loses the arm, and pieces of the map start to levitate to the sky. On that moment, the map will be different.
So in anticipation of the sequel I have gone back to BotW and am currently playing the One-Hit Obliterator DLC quest. And it got me thinking how many areas of the game feel new again with different quests to do, as well as how many gigantic areas seem like they should have more but don’t. I think if the devs put new caves/labyrinths/underworld locations in these areas along with the skyworld locations it will be more than enough to make the world seem fresh again. And the fetch quests can all be in service of restoring and rebuilding locations previously damaged by malice - even up to Hyrule Castle.
I would say the reason we haven’t gotten much info about TOTK is due to the fact that BOTW was also used as a way to sell the switch at the consoles launch. As the switch nears the end of its life the need to try to sell units isn’t prioritised as much so an expansive showcase of TOTK before it’s launch is not needed as much.
9:53 "I have no reason to believe there are any caves" You cut it out for your video, but if you watch the latest trailer you can actually see a cave entrance that is newly added to the map in the background of the shot where Link first jumps on the rock as it goes into the sky.
@@AnAmericanMusician first of all it wasnt there in botw so its Highlights unlikely theyll just add a treasure cave Second: we had caves in the Trailer so there has to be some entrances
Imagine saying that "the whole journey of discovery was one of the best parts of the original" and then complain that we have not been getting several hours of gameplay that basically ruins the whole experience of discovery. I am not worried in the slightest. This game has been in development for more time than the original, and if we do end up getting the "same map" as botw, that means that they have spent 6 years at this point fully focused on new features, quests, dungeons, story and new exploration in the expanded world that could very well involve not only sky islands, but possibly also caves and a longer story to play through than the original. Either way this is nintento we are talking about, when it comes to their "flagship" titles such as the super mario or zelda series, they wouldnt release some half assed half finished dlc to an older game and call it a new game. They would make sure that the game is as great as possible. I will not be looking up any gameplay of it until its release and when i finally get to play it i will decide for myself if its good or not. But lowering your expectations beforehand just ruins the experience and sets your expectations so low that you just start looking for flaws in the game. Whatever ends up happening, im certain that the game will be enjoyable and different despite using the same map as the original.
I'm not too worried, just think of how long they have been working on this game. They've been working on it for over 6 years and unlike botw, they already had the entire engine done for this one. I cant wait to see what they've made and I'm expecting some great things!
This is a great video. I love all of this, but from what the newest trailer showed, I feel like it’ll be good. The caves, sky islands, and possible other worlds really makes me feel as if this’ll be good. And it it’s not than that 70 dollar price tag will be awful
Incredibly well done video! I too have my concerns about them reusing the map but I'm confident the Zelda team will either find a way to change the old map or a way to make it interesting again. Nintendo puts gameplay above all and with how popular BOTW was I think they know they can't get away with a lazy rehash of the same map. Looking forward to seeing more of your content!
Ummm BotW is one of my favorite games. I’m playing it now again and I’m thinking to myself I wish there was more in this base game. So honestly, if this sequel (that they’ve spent SIX years developing) is just “more of the same” as many have had concerns about, I will be more than pleased. A sequel to BotW for me means MORE OF THE SAME. But you have to be dense to think that they’re not going to add substantial content to the game. Zelda is one of their best selling franchises and this is one of the most anticipated games of the year, they’re going to put their all in it. You said they always change the map, so I think this game will be a new experience in the fact that they have a new problem to solve working with the same map!
I have faith in Nintendo that they will bring an incredible new journey. But it is completely fair to be worried. Also, subscribed! This is quality content, you've brought me a new perspective on the game, I wasn't even thinking about the map changing halfway through!
You make a good point, and your concerns aren't unfounded. Realistically though, I think the base map will be the same Hyrule, but not the same as BotW. Think about all sorts of things that can be different like new towns, new characters, new cave systems (leading to the return of dungeons ? 👀), growing towns and populations since your "defeat" of the calamity, and overall just seeing how Hyrule is being restored to its former grandeur. That's not even mentioning the whole sky island thing. I think there will be plenty of exploration to be had with the sky islands and caves, and even more re-discovery when it comes to seeing just how the world has changed since BotW. I really hope your concerns end up being over nothing though, it definitely would be disappointing otherwise, but Miyamoto's never let us down when it comes to Zelda before and I doubt he wants to start now haha
I hate to temper expectations, but I think it’s unrealistic to expect a completely new map. An expanded map yes, with new sky islands and remixed areas. But to expect something all new like Termina or The Great Sea doesn’t seem in the cards. If they had something that big to show, I would think Nintendo would be proud to show it off as a new feature. That said even if the overworld is the same, the game could still turn out great. BOTW was amazing, but it did lack in dungeons, items, unique looking bosses, and enemy variety. TOTK could take BOTW’s template and bring it to perfection with a few small but improved features like that.
Great video, I don't think it's worth worrying about this game, they are the ones who made breath of the wild after all and if they're reusing the map then there's gonna be a good reason. judging from the stone bird I think land exploration might be a lot faster and easier than before so I feel like the more significant exploration will be in the sky and elsewhere. I think going into this game with an open mind rather than set expectations is the best approach. Also I do agree caves won't be a focus but I do think they may be in a minor way with a few new ones added judging from what we've seen so far
Well In the new trailer you can see a giant strand of floating islands that could even be just one big floating island in the sky, and it looks bigger than the great plateau so it could act as the tutorial area, and it looks like there’s a lot to explore in the sky. Also Nintendo listens to the suggestions for future games, so It’s likely it could have underwater exploration and also underground exploration. aounuma stated that the game will take place in the sky but the new spaces you can explore will go much beyond that. I think their just hiding it so it could be a big shock or something. Nintendo has added things the fans want to Zelda games, and aounuma even said how he saw how a lot of people wished that you could pet dogs in botw, so they are definitely Listening to what we have to say
My main concern with the game is how they’re marketing it. We don’t need a whole trailer that spoils everything (the kingdom hearts 3 fan in me despises that type of trailer), but just some game mechanics. If they drop one last trailer that’s similar to the BOTW 2017 trailer, I’ll be so excited. It struck that perfect balance of showing new things and keeping information hidden. They have 3-4 months to do it so who knows if it’ll be that or something more similar to the 4 hours of gameplay
So, what I’ve noticed from the trailers, is the map is the same, but with massive chunks taken out of the ground. I feel like those chunks taken out of the ground, will completely change the landscape and will make it feel like a new map. Also the sky islands look like they’ve been up there for a while, considering the rope bridges and other, similar infrastructure. Either way, I have no reason to expect anything but a great time.
Idk it would feel really weird if the direct sequel to botw didn’t have the same map. I loved exploring botw hopefully they give more places to explore
Im actually excited for them to reuse the same map, botw felt like groundwork, like it was just the first steps of what this new zelda vision is, shrines and divine beasts were underwhelming in content but were great in concept. Im excited for my of the Zelda gameplay ive grown to love, be explaned on, i want to see a world more realized with much more to do. I much rather have reused map that gets more substance than a new map with shallow substance... not to say botw is shallow substance but i do feel like shrines and divine beasts were much more shallow in their content compared to skyward swords and link between world dungeons, which were the two previous Zelda games. To me, it sounds like you just want to see new things, whereas i want to do new things. I want these established characters go further in development, i want to see the story go futher, i want the world to feel more alive and occupied. I want to see established mechanics get pushed further. With all that being said, i think you made a great video and i enjoyed the watch
Thank you for watching. I agree that the first game felt like groundwork, and I'm sure they will expand on the mechanics. Based on the trailer, it seems like Link's green hand is replacing the functionality of the slate.
@@tin_sensei hey i appreciate the reply, either way, im excited for a new Zelda release, got my wallet ready for whatever special, collector, master edition they have this time around. I hope they create a massive world in the sky and underground so you will have the exploration you want.
I 100% agree with you that if they use the same world (even with the new sky islands adding up to about as much terrain as the great plateau) it will be the single greatest mistake the zelda team has ever made- Exporation is the biggest aspect of why people loved the original, I can't believe the team doesn't realize that- we will see
I have no problem with reusing the same basic Hyrule "terrain" map, so long as the content is significantly different and expanded. We know it will be expanded into the sky, and it had better also include other expansions -- caves, maybe underwater, and more expectedly, travel across time, so that we have access to a sort of parallel Hyrule map (like in a Link to the Past, or a Link Between Worlds) where the general geography is the same, but everything is "different". Imagine jumping in a time machine, and getting to explore the world of 1000 years ago versus today. It's the same "map", the same bodies of water, hills, mountains, valleys, and forests, but also completely different. While I felt that the BotW map was alive and vibrant, thanks to all the woodland creatures, grass and trees blowing in the breeze, it still felt somewhat deserted with the same few monster types, and also encountering the same few NPCs everywhere I went. It's not the map that is the problem, it's just how empty and repetitive it is... a few of the same old bokoblins, moblins, and lizalos scattered here and there, the same small boulders to pick up and find a rupee, Mina and Mils hunting for treasure, Nat and Meghyn hunting for truffles, Beetle at or near every single one of the 15 identical stables, with identical looking owners. What I'm really hoping for with TotK, is that the map will feel far more inhabited and far less repetitious. I want substantially more variety of monsters, NPCs, places, locations, towns, settlements, and I don't want to keep running into the same few people and monsters everywhere I go.
its pretty clear that its centered around the same map, but it could be bigger and also have like a dark world, but theres no way they are using it as a placeholder...i think its going to be larger and that the dungeons will be pretty big, not those half hour dungeons of previous games but the sort of thing it might take even a few days to go through
Even if this game is “just an expansion” to the original, there’s one thing that I feel you might not have considered. The criticism towards botw was based on the lack of a traditional story. Maybe think of this game as if it was an exceptional story experience with new gameplay loops that expanded on the previous game. Botw’s map may be apart of this game, but the joy of finding new things that weren’t in the map originally will definitely bring a nostalgia factor to it.
I'm glad someone is willing to criticize the lack of info instead of blindly gushing about this game being a masterpiece even though it hasn't come out yet.
I 100% agree with you here. I'm also somewhat worried.People that think that caves are just 100% comfirmed are kidding themselves. That one small shot is not confirmation. It could be literally anything. Besides, just knowing the geographical location ruins so much of the exploration. Best case scenario they use our previous knowledge of the map to make re exploring it exciting and fun by "subverting our expectations" (god i hate that phrase) but even then, I can't see that not feeling disappointing. And islands... just aren't that exciting to me. Yeah they're kind of cool, but it's just more land with stuff on it. Them being in the sky just isn't instantly justifiable in my mind. Besides, the rest of hyrule will still most likely be the majority of the game and... it doesn't look much changed at all. A few minor things like death mountain and a storm but... that's it. What's the hook that will make me want to explore the same areas I spent hundreds of hours exploring before? The landscape looks virtually identical. And because BOTW was so slow paced and dreamy, it was a dream to explore those areas for the first time. It didn't feel empty. But without anything major, re exploring that same terrain will feel tedious and boring. The world will feel vastly more empty. Best case scenario is that they are holding back a TON of information on the game to keep us speculating, but this close to release I'm a bit worried. Of course, I still have faith in the zelda team, I really do. I think that it's entirely possible that they will blow my socks off and go in a completely different direction that I was expecting... but I can't help but worry.
There is most likely going to be significant Map changes with the removal of Shrines Towers and the addition of Sky Islands some impartial Cave Systems and the Fact that in the trailers we've gotten there are 2 different caves, the Zonai cave and Ganons cave, there will most likely be more than those 2 caves just because, I'm sure that ZELDA wouldn't introduce a mechanic that wouldn't be used more than twice.
In BOTW trailers we saw a fully intact Castle Town, but that turned out to be a bait. My prediction is we are currently seeing a fully intact Hyrule, but its going to be screwed up. My main reasoning for this is because I *think* in an early interview, they said this game was going to be dark. I can imagine Ganondorf corrupting the entire world, so we go to the sky islands to seek the Master Swords fix (maybe the sacred flames that were only in Skyward Sword) and then head into the caves, where Ganondorf is. That was Hyrule will be new but screwed up, the sky islands will be beautful and the solution, and the caves will be the destruction of the sources of malice. Welp, just wrote my own game in this comment, but some of it might happen! Great video, I enjoyed the fully laid out timeline!
yes i have to agree about the same map point BUT the thing is its nintendo first of all they wont release the game if it isnt good enough for them second of all they had 6 years of development time and are reusing a lot of botw the reason totk even became its own game is because they had so many ideas for a 3rd dlc for botw that it had to become its own game that is escentially 12 years of development for tokt do you realise how huge that is of course now im not here to bash in your opinion its a great video and you deserve more subs and recognitian keep on grinding yt my dude
In the defence of TotK it originally started out as a BotW DLC, plus they still want to tell the story of the these version of the characters so it makes sense why they reuse it
I understand your concern. BUT I don’t think they are the type of people to really just copy and paste. The details in botw show that. They have a system in place (used in botw development) for the people on the team to play through the game and write opinions on a board that should be fixed in the game. They would know that no one wants to tred through the same hyrule again. That might be why we haven’t seen much and got the title so late. They either want us to discover this new hyrule ourselves or Something in the world is so big and weird it could spoil the whole thing. Or Zelda is a large role. Who knows but this is how I feel. I trust them to do well.
i mean sure some people won't like the same world with the altered route their going but i think it's just fine if they just alter it to the point that you can recognize it but be like hey i've been here before that's the place with that one quest what the hell happened to that and also a lot of sky island exploration and maybe and this is just a personal wish of mine, underwater exploration. the first map was wonderful to explore but let's be honest aside from shrines and shrine quest plus some fetch quests, physics mini games and collectibles. there wasn't much behind the size of that world. it felt empty, kind of hollow, it was the charm of it because it was a post apocalyptic world kind of. but we've done that and seen that. i want to see the same world after i beat ganon. but great vid nonetheless i like your voiceover and editing. it flowed pretty well.
This is an understandable preoccupation. However this is Nintendo’s A team we’re talking about!! There’s no way they disappoint!! I would love love to see a four-hour-long gameplay session of this new game though.
We'll see... tbh, a couple of years ago I was concerned about the exploration thing... but, I've honestly played BOTW so much, that I want something completely new. Maybe exploration won't be the thing... but, being lost in caves, or figuring out how to reach that freaking island talking to NPCs. It may be the same Hyrule, but maybe they've managed to build the whole Hyrule underground... and the verticality could be more expansive than what we've seen too... Exploration was everything for me, but I think I can move on from that, for now, if what they bring is intriguing enough.
I think they're just... hiding it. After all, a lot of people including me don't like when an upcoming movie has had trailers reveal waaay too much of the film. Same can be applied to TotK. They're either hiding until the next trailer (which may not even reveal close to everything big and unknown about the game), or saving it all for the player to discover. Think about it, they're reusing the same map. If they let the player discover everything else for their own, there would still be a new journey.
You forgot 2 evidence of caves in the Name and release date reveal trailer was a cave shown like lit its there with plants and a hole and you can see new craters on the map also in the last trailer
There was that shot in the 3rd trailer where you can see a hole which wasnt there in botw. So maybe thats a hint for caves. But i can understand your concerns. I love botw as much as you and if they really can bring a twist to the sequel it could be just as good.
Yes, I agree. It seems like the holes in the ground are where the towers used to be, so I'm sure they will replace the towers with something, possibly a cave. I was just saying that the idea of an interconnected cave system extending under the whole map that some people are claiming has not been shown. Thank you for watching!
@@ropuluff2333 It definitely is. And that’s because when your in an enclosed cave NOTHING else needs to be loaded in besides nearby caverns. So you have absolutely nothing to fear when it comes to caves.
For people who haven’t 100% the game it doesn’t matter to much. I’ve played through three times not never 100% but I think they have made some adjustments to the map but not made a complete new one.
I've been worried about the map and exploration too. I've been avoiding playing botw because I want totk to feel new when I explore the game. Hopefully its different and I have a feeling it definitely will be but it won't change my worries until we get something that confirms we will get a lot more on the surface.
I have the same fears like you and it prevents me from getting excited for the new game ...... But I have the hope while they are reusing basically the same map the game is about time travel and stuff so at least they can reposition the villages and ruins and other kind of structures to reward exploration. That and that the manage to melt in some really good (traditional) zelda dungeons into the world ..... but i am a little bit concerned that they show so little ......
I honestly hope there's a lot more villages as the calamity has passed and civilization has had a bit of down time to rebuild. that will definitely help with the exploration. maybe even hyrule castle town could be rebuilt, who knows.
No hate, this is an great video, but since GOW 2018 came out, people have been expecting sequels to be huge reboots, new maps, new everything, with a few exceptions. So far it seems like what a proper sequel should be, an expansion on the first game. Before all these modern games, sequels pretty much used to be like that.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Botw's E3 trailer is one of the best videogame trailers ever bloody made. And, well, I don't need to tell you about the game itself! Totk has a tough bar to clear!
Curious, you’re concerned for the same reasons I’m the most hyped I’ve been for a game in a long while, the lack of updates might very well mean something big is coming. I believe such concerns comes from experiences with another games more than zelda games itself, we have absolutely no reason to believe nintendo will drop the ball on this with their track record on first party titles.
Anyone played Super Mario Galaxy? Ever played Super Mario Galaxy 2? That's the same trajectory BOTW is going with TOTK. Prepared to be blown away. There is a reason why many people were complaining about Galaxy 2 missing from SM3D All Stars.....
It’s a sequel to a very very popular game. They don’t need to show much and we already have an idea of what the game is. It’s not a brand new concept. Same happened with God of War Ragnarok. People thought it was in trouble. That was far from the truth. Believe in the Zelda team.
I’d like you to have faith as big as botw is remember there still was a lot that wasn’t used the ocean, underground the sky and while only was confirmed I reckon they’re saving the rest for that meaty fat trailer and who know what other mechanic there may be to reveal more of the land which we have yet to see. We also have on going story not memories Zelda is with us and may be playable or anything of that sort new arm mechanics to play with the world and it’s contents.
I expect to see the big two months before release trailer like breath of the wild got for the February direct and also just because the reason the same world doesn’t mean it’s going to be completely out of ideas if I trust one team the most coming up with ideas in a familiar space I would say it’s the Zelda team
2's development period has basically matched the original game's, and for that one, they had to create the game engine, plan out all of the game mechanics, create the massive world, etc. Even when considering the pandemic, BotW2 HAS to have more dramatic restructuring than plunking some islands in the sky... right? That CAN'T have been all they worked on for the last half decade. My best guess is that all of the new things they're adding may not present well in trailers for whatever reason, so they just... haven't been shown. Or maybe I'm just wrong and the game has had really troubled development. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Okay well take this into consideration. It's roughly taking them 5 years to make a game that already has a map built out for itself instead of making a game from scratch. They have a vision with this it's taking them 5 years to make a game with reused assets so it must be something special.
i think the fact that this game is taking them a super long time is a great sign, unlike breath of the wild they have the base game done, that means they’ve spent 4 years exclusively on the gameplay. i trust that nintendo have fuelled this game to the brim
I dont agree with your viewpoint on this, however the video is very well made, and its shocking that you dont have more subscribers. A tip from a somewhat former content creator before having gone back to university for graduate school: you need more calls to action in your videos. You are not converting as many subscribers as you could be for the quality of content, 1/3 or 1/4 through the video after you have hooked the viewer you should call on viewers to subscribe to support you making more videos. Great video, and ill be subscribing
I’ve got a big hunch that this game is going to feature the temple of time and multiple eras of Hyrule to explore. No cave systems, but at least two different time zones, maybe 3 to explore and travel between to solve puzzles. The lack of Sheikah tech in the new game is astonishing, and leads me to believe that tears of the kingdom is another lengthy period of time in the future, hence why the moblins and bokoblins have longer horns, or that this game is set waaay back in the past. This all speculation and the game maybe trash, who knows, but with the previous knowledge that they had tons of ideas for botw that far outweighed the scope of what the first game visualized, I’d say it’s probably fair that this game is going to let us explore some unknown sky realm, or maybe travel through time.
While I personally don't agree with you I noticed at the end of the video you're a smaller creator. That alone makes me want to have your voice be heard to others because it is a well made video! I wish you success in the future and hopefully something we can agree upon 😂
i have the same concern, all those years for just some skylands? i did not even like playing skyward sword! i can only hope the make up with time travelling so we can go back and forward in to time
It is very unlikely (I hope) that they will just make this long awaited game a overly glorified DLC instead of a great masterpiece. I might be wrong, cos TBH (I do love Nintendo, but as they say "Nintendo is gotta Nintendo"). However, more often than not, they're well known for dropping old mechanics/gameplay/maps never to use them again (with a few exceptions) and that is what I want to believe they're doing here: maybe the map will be the same but it must be highly altered! maybe the sky map will be so interesting that we will not be keen to spend ANY of your time on the surface... who knows. There's a recent patent that describes an immediate warping system (which makes me believe that they really want us to travel easily between sky islands). Also, another theory I've is that they don't want to show any of the real "beef" of the game just now because they don't want to kill the hype (and you can see it's working, people won't stop talking about theories and crazy so called "leaks" of this game!), this is a brilliant marketing strategy... if they reveal "look, this is the new map (or the changes to the old one), and these are all the new mechanics" too soon, people all over the internet will stop hyping about this since they won't have anything to theorised. Again, remember since they're reusing graphic engine + map, they only have so much "wow factor", so they have to use it right! Again, I could be wrong, there are games made by Nintendo and even by Zelda team that makes you think "What the #$%& were they thinking?" - ahemSkywardSwordahem .... but... you can always hope. Really nice video, really liked your placid way you narrated everything. Keep up the good work! Sorry for the long post here's a potato 0
Were you satisfied with TOTK then?
This may sound arbitrary but I stopped playing after getting all 120 lightroot things. When I got the reward I suddenly had this feeling of resentment, like the game wasted my time. In botw when you got all 120 shrines you got a special outfit so I was expecting something similar for this, especially because of how grindy it is toward the back half. Instead you get a cosmetic medal for your inventory. Pretty big blunder IMO.
Generally I enjoyed the new stuff- the new major dungeons in particular I thought were pretty consistently good and memorable. I also really liked the overworld caves. The problem is that the new stuff is a minor part of the experience. The journey to these new dungeons is virtually the same. To me, it feels like OOT Master Quest than Majora. As for the depths, they made a great first impression but after about 20 hours you realize there's not much to it, which is a real shame, because I really enjoyed it initially.
Lastly, I would say that the vehicle stuff was a failure. In the early game, it's way too expensive and useless. You get punished for experimenting because you try to spend all your resources making a car that's slower than just sprinting. Then sometime in the midgame you suddenly get an abundance of fans and controllers, making the hoverbike insanely OP and completely trivializing the game. It practically feels like a no clip. I appreciate the effort put into the system but the result was ultimately disappointing.
To summarize, if I could combine the two games into one, I would just take BOTW and add the overworld caves from TOTK. I think the guardians were a way better enemy than the phantom ganons, I think having a flying car available any time completely removes any tension, and I think the depths makes the map far, far too big with no payoff. I still got my money's worth playing it, but it's not Majora.
Thanks for watching!
@@tin_sensei perfectly sums up how I feel about it,
the map was the biggest selling point for botw which I’ve invested well over 200 plus hours in, I love all the call backs to the orders games which didn’t get paid off in totk I was just expecting a bit more of somethings and less of others
But a good question is, if someone never played botw or totk and asked you which one should I get what would you say?
I see your concern about how the totk may not have as much exploration because they are reusing the map from botw, but the fact that we will have sky islands, caves, and maybe even underwater exploration makes me feel better. And who knows what kind of stuff they will add on land, I'm talking about possibly new villages and cool new landmarks. I think the game will satisfy us :)
As someone who poured over botw (only finished in summer last year) I’d be so disappointed if it took place in the same map. I like to take big open world games slow and take in all the details. Exploring the same map would feel incredibly cheap lol
@@Jeesh It's the same terrain/map, that's been established already. Of course they will add new models and remove some (probably) but reusing the map is actually brilliant.
I’m excited to use the same map, but with a lot of changes to the overworld. It’ll be like, “I know this map well but everything is different.” Puts a different spin on exploration and discovery!
And with the removal of shrines and towers(compare the footage of TOTK and the Current locations of Shrines and Towers of BOTW) TOTK Seems to have removed those so there most likely will be more than what they are showing us
@@Jeesh There will probably be more to the map, BUT The game has to use the same map from the first game because its a sequel and just add on from there with caves the sky and maybe underwater exploration though this is not confirmed
There's a cave entrance in a spot where there wasn't one in BotW. It's in the title reveal teaser, just before this moment you're showing at the 9:54 mark.
I wouldn't be too concerned. Assuming the islands are all over the entirety of Hyrule, that's almost a whole map's worth of new terrain. Coupled with the fact that we'll probably be able to go underwater AND underground, the map could be up to three times larger vertically. That's also assuming the horizontal borders haven't been extended, which they very well could be. These changes are likely either not apparent at first glance/from afar, or they're purposely hiding them for now.
The overworld being "the same" has been a known fact since shortly after the initial reveal. Aonuma confirmed it in an interview. So your confusion towards that was a bit perplexing to me.
Yes, it's really weird they haven't shown much even 4+ months from release. But if this was a "60$ DLC", they wouldn't have taken almost six years to put it out. I trust the Zelda team.
Let's just hope I'm right in doing so.
My thoughts exactly, if you watch closely in the last trailer, the islands in the sky even extend past the borders of the land onto the sea, which would make the possibility of those two being connected more significant. Also, things like the cave entrance in (apparently) the Faron region has me thinking that the overworld we know has been (although recognisable) drastically changed in terms of exploration possibilities. I’m not worried, but at this point they need to stop pulling a R* and just give us something already!! 😫😂
@@gregpl9363 I will be so amazed if there was a whole new island to explore but I’m not sure
Yea exactly, either extended borders or island(s) would be cool. I do think they will do some form of surface world extension aside from the overworld renewal. When you said island, the first thing that popped into my mind was this one, do you remember that aside from eventide there was an unreachable island in the distance? The one that looks like two grassy pyramids next to each other. I’ve seen someone doing some out of bounds exploring and even though you’ll clip through it, it is still very much a 3D landscape. Aside from that it’s literally the only island aside from eventide that’s to be spotted when out on sea. Can’t wait to see what they’ve done man, but they reaallly need to show us something NOWWW. 🤣🤣
I disagree, but you laid out your points well and I enjoyed the video.
I still have faith in the sequel for a couple reasons: I don’t think it’s fair to dismiss the “expanded world” from the delay since that was their main justification for the delay. It’s also not really fair to say “99%” of what we’re shown is the sky islands when you ignore the first trailer for dubious reasons. And finally even if the same map is reused, we can already see some pretty major changes with death mountain and weird symbols and the ground.
I do agree that the exploration was the best part of botw, though. I just have faith they’ll be able to recreate that in the sequel. I guess we’ll find out soon!
Thank you for your comment.
It's true that I did put less stock into the first trailer. It really does feel more like just a cutscene setting up the castle rising. Part of the reason I feel this way, which I did not put in the video, is that I think people were baited by the Breath of the Wild trailers before that game came out.
The trailers featured a look at a Hyrule Castle town, but then in the game it ended up being one of the flashbacks that you discover and in the game, the town is gone. The trailers also featured a large cast of colorful characters, but then in the game half of these characters ended up being ghosts you only talked to as a reward for beating the bosses. Because of those examples, I chose to put more stock into the actual gameplay footage we've seen.
Thank you again for watching.
@@tin_sensei This was a really well made video! I don’t agree with everything you said, and I feel like you are being a bit too pessimistic about the game, but I do feel like this is a good video to watch compared to some of the other totk videos out here. I feel like some people are getting a little too hyped for the game by putting out theories of some pretty far out ideas for the game and then treating like it’s a fact that the game will feature that. I definitely felt baited from the botw trailers and I don’t want to fall for that again. I still think that botw was an amazing game regardless of what the trailers made me think would happen. It does concern me that they haven’t released any gameplay, but I have faith in the Zelda team. If they say it’s gonna be something good, then I believe it will be. Also I think the idea of revisiting the old map is kinda exciting. It’s makes me wonder what kind of changes there will be to justify keeping it the same. Especially if they are taking out the 120 shrines I feel like they’ll be putting something good to replace it.
oh wow, it was only until i started scrolling into the comments after the video that i realized you dont even have a hundred subscribers. genuinely was expecting you to have at least 100k. keep it up dude, your content ensures success :) love how the algorithm has started occasionally pushing small creators
Thanks, much appreciated. It's feels like it's hard to get a foot in the door but right now I'm having fun just making the videos so it's all good.
Well that changed pretty quickly 😅
Just remember
Totk was originally supposed to be a dlc for botw
But they will have expanded on it
just realized tears of the kingdom's acronym looks like someone tried to spell Tic Tok very badly
you have to think that BOTW was as you said groundbreaking, and they needed to prove themselves, but this is a sequel to that, the first Zelda game that takes place directly after the previous one in the same place, so if they reveal too much about what makes this one different, it might spoil the experience. This game IS gonna be huge, given how much time has been put into it.
I like your logic.
Speculation: the beginning of the game will be in default Hyrule, but when Link and Zelda find the mummy, Zelda falls, Link loses the arm, and pieces of the map start to levitate to the sky. On that moment, the map will be different.
So in anticipation of the sequel I have gone back to BotW and am currently playing the One-Hit Obliterator DLC quest. And it got me thinking how many areas of the game feel new again with different quests to do, as well as how many gigantic areas seem like they should have more but don’t. I think if the devs put new caves/labyrinths/underworld locations in these areas along with the skyworld locations it will be more than enough to make the world seem fresh again. And the fetch quests can all be in service of restoring and rebuilding locations previously damaged by malice - even up to Hyrule Castle.
I would say the reason we haven’t gotten much info about TOTK is due to the fact that BOTW was also used as a way to sell the switch at the consoles launch. As the switch nears the end of its life the need to try to sell units isn’t prioritised as much so an expansive showcase of TOTK before it’s launch is not needed as much.
god of war use the same engine too and look how great that game turned out
HOW have you only got 74 subscribers!? The video quality and content was amazing! Good job!
9:53
"I have no reason to believe there are any caves"
You cut it out for your video, but if you watch the latest trailer you can actually see a cave entrance that is newly added to the map in the background of the shot where Link first jumps on the rock as it goes into the sky.
You realize that was just a treasure cave, right? We already had those in botw.
@@AnAmericanMusician first of all it wasnt there in botw so its Highlights unlikely theyll just add a treasure cave
Second: we had caves in the Trailer so there has to be some entrances
@@AnAmericanMusician no we don’t have them in botw. I highly doubt you even played the game
@@satorii_2060 touch grass fanboi. I played plenty. Quit sucking the toes of nintendo unless you're gonna get paid for it.
@@satorii_2060 actually there are some but they look Completely different and are also hidden behind breakable stone Walls
Imagine saying that "the whole journey of discovery was one of the best parts of the original" and then complain that we have not been getting several hours of gameplay that basically ruins the whole experience of discovery. I am not worried in the slightest. This game has been in development for more time than the original, and if we do end up getting the "same map" as botw, that means that they have spent 6 years at this point fully focused on new features, quests, dungeons, story and new exploration in the expanded world that could very well involve not only sky islands, but possibly also caves and a longer story to play through than the original. Either way this is nintento we are talking about, when it comes to their "flagship" titles such as the super mario or zelda series, they wouldnt release some half assed half finished dlc to an older game and call it a new game. They would make sure that the game is as great as possible. I will not be looking up any gameplay of it until its release and when i finally get to play it i will decide for myself if its good or not. But lowering your expectations beforehand just ruins the experience and sets your expectations so low that you just start looking for flaws in the game. Whatever ends up happening, im certain that the game will be enjoyable and different despite using the same map as the original.
I'm not too worried, just think of how long they have been working on this game. They've been working on it for over 6 years and unlike botw, they already had the entire engine done for this one. I cant wait to see what they've made and I'm expecting some great things!
This is a great video. I love all of this, but from what the newest trailer showed, I feel like it’ll be good. The caves, sky islands, and possible other worlds really makes me feel as if this’ll be good. And it it’s not than that 70 dollar price tag will be awful
I really Hope that some of the old villages get revived and the One already existing get expanded. Would love to see a world full of life.
Incredibly well done video! I too have my concerns about them reusing the map but I'm confident the Zelda team will either find a way to change the old map or a way to make it interesting again.
Nintendo puts gameplay above all and with how popular BOTW was I think they know they can't get away with a lazy rehash of the same map.
Looking forward to seeing more of your content!
Ummm BotW is one of my favorite games. I’m playing it now again and I’m thinking to myself I wish there was more in this base game. So honestly, if this sequel (that they’ve spent SIX years developing) is just “more of the same” as many have had concerns about, I will be more than pleased. A sequel to BotW for me means MORE OF THE SAME. But you have to be dense to think that they’re not going to add substantial content to the game. Zelda is one of their best selling franchises and this is one of the most anticipated games of the year, they’re going to put their all in it. You said they always change the map, so I think this game will be a new experience in the fact that they have a new problem to solve working with the same map!
I have faith in Nintendo that they will bring an incredible new journey. But it is completely fair to be worried.
Also, subscribed! This is quality content, you've brought me a new perspective on the game, I wasn't even thinking about the map changing halfway through!
You make a good point, and your concerns aren't unfounded. Realistically though, I think the base map will be the same Hyrule, but not the same as BotW. Think about all sorts of things that can be different like new towns, new characters, new cave systems (leading to the return of dungeons ? 👀), growing towns and populations since your "defeat" of the calamity, and overall just seeing how Hyrule is being restored to its former grandeur. That's not even mentioning the whole sky island thing. I think there will be plenty of exploration to be had with the sky islands and caves, and even more re-discovery when it comes to seeing just how the world has changed since BotW. I really hope your concerns end up being over nothing though, it definitely would be disappointing otherwise, but Miyamoto's never let us down when it comes to Zelda before and I doubt he wants to start now haha
I hate to temper expectations, but I think it’s unrealistic to expect a completely new map. An expanded map yes, with new sky islands and remixed areas. But to expect something all new like Termina or The Great Sea doesn’t seem in the cards. If they had something that big to show, I would think Nintendo would be proud to show it off as a new feature.
That said even if the overworld is the same, the game could still turn out great. BOTW was amazing, but it did lack in dungeons, items, unique looking bosses, and enemy variety. TOTK could take BOTW’s template and bring it to perfection with a few small but improved features like that.
Just subbed i really wanna see ur thoughts when the game comes out
Great video, I don't think it's worth worrying about this game, they are the ones who made breath of the wild after all and if they're reusing the map then there's gonna be a good reason. judging from the stone bird I think land exploration might be a lot faster and easier than before so I feel like the more significant exploration will be in the sky and elsewhere. I think going into this game with an open mind rather than set expectations is the best approach. Also I do agree caves won't be a focus but I do think they may be in a minor way with a few new ones added judging from what we've seen so far
The Zelda team has never let me down before this time will be no different.
Well In the new trailer you can see a giant strand of floating islands that could even be just one big floating island in the sky, and it looks bigger than the great plateau so it could act as the tutorial area, and it looks like there’s a lot to explore in the sky. Also Nintendo listens to the suggestions for future games, so It’s likely it could have underwater exploration and also underground exploration. aounuma stated that the game will take place in the sky but the new spaces you can explore will go much beyond that. I think their just hiding it so it could be a big shock or something. Nintendo has added things the fans want to Zelda games, and aounuma even said how he saw how a lot of people wished that you could pet dogs in botw, so they are definitely Listening to what we have to say
My main concern with the game is how they’re marketing it. We don’t need a whole trailer that spoils everything (the kingdom hearts 3 fan in me despises that type of trailer), but just some game mechanics. If they drop one last trailer that’s similar to the BOTW 2017 trailer, I’ll be so excited. It struck that perfect balance of showing new things and keeping information hidden. They have 3-4 months to do it so who knows if it’ll be that or something more similar to the 4 hours of gameplay
So, what I’ve noticed from the trailers, is the map is the same, but with massive chunks taken out of the ground. I feel like those chunks taken out of the ground, will completely change the landscape and will make it feel like a new map. Also the sky islands look like they’ve been up there for a while, considering the rope bridges and other, similar infrastructure. Either way, I have no reason to expect anything but a great time.
Idk it would feel really weird if the direct sequel to botw didn’t have the same map. I loved exploring botw hopefully they give more places to explore
Im actually excited for them to reuse the same map, botw felt like groundwork, like it was just the first steps of what this new zelda vision is, shrines and divine beasts were underwhelming in content but were great in concept. Im excited for my of the Zelda gameplay ive grown to love, be explaned on, i want to see a world more realized with much more to do.
I much rather have reused map that gets more substance than a new map with shallow substance... not to say botw is shallow substance but i do feel like shrines and divine beasts were much more shallow in their content compared to skyward swords and link between world dungeons, which were the two previous Zelda games.
To me, it sounds like you just want to see new things, whereas i want to do new things. I want these established characters go further in development, i want to see the story go futher, i want the world to feel more alive and occupied. I want to see established mechanics get pushed further.
With all that being said, i think you made a great video and i enjoyed the watch
Thank you for watching. I agree that the first game felt like groundwork, and I'm sure they will expand on the mechanics. Based on the trailer, it seems like Link's green hand is replacing the functionality of the slate.
@@tin_sensei hey i appreciate the reply, either way, im excited for a new Zelda release, got my wallet ready for whatever special, collector, master edition they have this time around.
I hope they create a massive world in the sky and underground so you will have the exploration you want.
we have caves and dungeons, new trailer confirms that with the minecart sequence.
There is a cave we see in the most recent trailer when link jumps on a rock to go to the sky you see it in the background
I 100% agree with you that if they use the same world (even with the new sky islands adding up to about as much terrain as the great plateau) it will be the single greatest mistake the zelda team has ever made- Exporation is the biggest aspect of why people loved the original, I can't believe the team doesn't realize that- we will see
I can't believe you only have 165 subs. The quality of the video and sound is pretty professional. Great video ☺️👍
I have no problem with reusing the same basic Hyrule "terrain" map, so long as the content is significantly different and expanded. We know it will be expanded into the sky, and it had better also include other expansions -- caves, maybe underwater, and more expectedly, travel across time, so that we have access to a sort of parallel Hyrule map (like in a Link to the Past, or a Link Between Worlds) where the general geography is the same, but everything is "different".
Imagine jumping in a time machine, and getting to explore the world of 1000 years ago versus today. It's the same "map", the same bodies of water, hills, mountains, valleys, and forests, but also completely different.
While I felt that the BotW map was alive and vibrant, thanks to all the woodland creatures, grass and trees blowing in the breeze, it still felt somewhat deserted with the same few monster types, and also encountering the same few NPCs everywhere I went.
It's not the map that is the problem, it's just how empty and repetitive it is... a few of the same old bokoblins, moblins, and lizalos scattered here and there, the same small boulders to pick up and find a rupee, Mina and Mils hunting for treasure, Nat and Meghyn hunting for truffles, Beetle at or near every single one of the 15 identical stables, with identical looking owners.
What I'm really hoping for with TotK, is that the map will feel far more inhabited and far less repetitious. I want substantially more variety of monsters, NPCs, places, locations, towns, settlements, and I don't want to keep running into the same few people and monsters everywhere I go.
Dude, I was never that sure, that a channel will blow up soon as I'm with yours! Keep up the good work man👍.
I honestly thought, that you already got like 100k.
I like the way you edited the video. Great transitions for sure.
I also have faith in Tears of the Kingdom. I'm not expecting a new continent by the way.
its pretty clear that its centered around the same map, but it could be bigger and also have like a dark world, but theres no way they are using it as a placeholder...i think its going to be larger and that the dungeons will be pretty big, not those half hour dungeons of previous games but the sort of thing it might take even a few days to go through
Even if this game is “just an expansion” to the original, there’s one thing that I feel you might not have considered. The criticism towards botw was based on the lack of a traditional story. Maybe think of this game as if it was an exceptional story experience with new gameplay loops that expanded on the previous game. Botw’s map may be apart of this game, but the joy of finding new things that weren’t in the map originally will definitely bring a nostalgia factor to it.
I'm glad someone is willing to criticize the lack of info instead of blindly gushing about this game being a masterpiece even though it hasn't come out yet.
I just want to say you deserve so many more subs and way more recognition, the quality of this video is insanely good! Keep it up!👍
More effort in this video than 50% of other botw youtubers
I 100% agree with you here. I'm also somewhat worried.People that think that caves are just 100% comfirmed are kidding themselves. That one small shot is not confirmation. It could be literally anything.
Besides, just knowing the geographical location ruins so much of the exploration. Best case scenario they use our previous knowledge of the map to make re exploring it exciting and fun by "subverting our expectations" (god i hate that phrase) but even then, I can't see that not feeling disappointing. And islands... just aren't that exciting to me. Yeah they're kind of cool, but it's just more land with stuff on it. Them being in the sky just isn't instantly justifiable in my mind.
Besides, the rest of hyrule will still most likely be the majority of the game and... it doesn't look much changed at all. A few minor things like death mountain and a storm but... that's it. What's the hook that will make me want to explore the same areas I spent hundreds of hours exploring before? The landscape looks virtually identical. And because BOTW was so slow paced and dreamy, it was a dream to explore those areas for the first time. It didn't feel empty. But without anything major, re exploring that same terrain will feel tedious and boring. The world will feel vastly more empty.
Best case scenario is that they are holding back a TON of information on the game to keep us speculating, but this close to release I'm a bit worried.
Of course, I still have faith in the zelda team, I really do. I think that it's entirely possible that they will blow my socks off and go in a completely different direction that I was expecting... but I can't help but worry.
There is most likely going to be significant Map changes with the removal of Shrines Towers and the addition of Sky Islands some impartial Cave Systems and the Fact that in the trailers we've gotten there are 2 different caves, the Zonai cave and Ganons cave, there will most likely be more than those 2 caves just because, I'm sure that ZELDA wouldn't introduce a mechanic that wouldn't be used more than twice.
I bet there's gonna be like a huge cave in like half way through the game, and the mall will completly change
Very good editing and presentation!
You forgot to mention that they showed off more gameplay in December 2014 for the Game Awards.
Any objective I want huh ? I want to save Marin from being trapped as a seagull forever !
320 days remaining till
In BOTW trailers we saw a fully intact Castle Town, but that turned out to be a bait. My prediction is we are currently seeing a fully intact Hyrule, but its going to be screwed up. My main reasoning for this is because I *think* in an early interview, they said this game was going to be dark. I can imagine Ganondorf corrupting the entire world, so we go to the sky islands to seek the Master Swords fix (maybe the sacred flames that were only in Skyward Sword) and then head into the caves, where Ganondorf is. That was Hyrule will be new but screwed up, the sky islands will be beautful and the solution, and the caves will be the destruction of the sources of malice.
Welp, just wrote my own game in this comment, but some of it might happen! Great video, I enjoyed the fully laid out timeline!
Finally someone voicing these concerns instead of blind optimism based on zero evidence.
yes i have to agree about the same map point BUT the thing is its nintendo first of all they wont release the game if it isnt good enough for them second of all they had 6 years of development time and are reusing a lot of botw the reason totk even became its own game is because they had so many ideas for a 3rd dlc for botw that it had to become its own game
that is escentially 12 years of development for tokt do you realise how huge that is
of course now im not here to bash in your opinion its a great video and you deserve more subs and recognitian keep on grinding yt my dude
I do share your concern, with over 1400 hours in BotW, I need some new ground to cover. But I'm still hopeful that enough more will be added.
In the defence of TotK it originally started out as a BotW DLC, plus they still want to tell the story of the these version of the characters so it makes sense why they reuse it
Nintendo has decades of experience in game development, every concern imo has been asked during development and been figured out
I understand your concern. BUT I don’t think they are the type of people to really just copy and paste. The details in botw show that. They have a system in place (used in botw development) for the people on the team to play through the game and write opinions on a board that should be fixed in the game. They would know that no one wants to tred through the same hyrule again. That might be why we haven’t seen much and got the title so late. They either want us to discover this new hyrule ourselves or Something in the world is so big and weird it could spoil the whole thing. Or Zelda is a large role. Who knows but this is how I feel. I trust them to do well.
i mean sure some people won't like the same world with the altered route their going but i think it's just fine if they just alter it to the point that you can recognize it but be like hey i've been here before that's the place with that one quest what the hell happened to that and also a lot of sky island exploration and maybe and this is just a personal wish of mine, underwater exploration.
the first map was wonderful to explore but let's be honest aside from shrines and shrine quest plus some fetch quests, physics mini games and collectibles. there wasn't much behind the size of that world. it felt empty, kind of hollow, it was the charm of it because it was a post apocalyptic world kind of. but we've done that and seen that. i want to see the same world after i beat ganon. but great vid nonetheless i like your voiceover and editing. it flowed pretty well.
This is an understandable preoccupation. However this is Nintendo’s A team we’re talking about!! There’s no way they disappoint!!
I would love love to see a four-hour-long gameplay session of this new game though.
new trailer all but confirmed caves
I don’t think I share your opinions but I still think this video is very well constructed and interesting. Keep up the great work
Finally a topic i'm interested to
I mean, it's the first direct sequel since A Link Between Worlds. I would say it's expected to reuse the same map when it's the same Hyrule
this guy is underarted can you imagine that 1k people watched this video and not even 10% liked or subscribed
We'll see... tbh, a couple of years ago I was concerned about the exploration thing... but, I've honestly played BOTW so much, that I want something completely new. Maybe exploration won't be the thing... but, being lost in caves, or figuring out how to reach that freaking island talking to NPCs. It may be the same Hyrule, but maybe they've managed to build the whole Hyrule underground... and the verticality could be more expansive than what we've seen too... Exploration was everything for me, but I think I can move on from that, for now, if what they bring is intriguing enough.
I think they're just... hiding it. After all, a lot of people including me don't like when an upcoming movie has had trailers reveal waaay too much of the film. Same can be applied to TotK. They're either hiding until the next trailer (which may not even reveal close to everything big and unknown about the game), or saving it all for the player to discover. Think about it, they're reusing the same map. If they let the player discover everything else for their own, there would still be a new journey.
actually, they did show a cave hidden in the latest trailer... 0:55
I mean, what in the world have they been working on all this time if they haven't drastically changed the map?
You forgot 2 evidence of caves in the Name and release date reveal trailer was a cave shown like lit its there with plants and a hole and you can see new craters on the map also in the last trailer
There was that shot in the 3rd trailer where you can see a hole which wasnt there in botw. So maybe thats a hint for caves. But i can understand your concerns. I love botw as much as you and if they really can bring a twist to the sequel it could be just as good.
Yes, I agree. It seems like the holes in the ground are where the towers used to be, so I'm sure they will replace the towers with something, possibly a cave. I was just saying that the idea of an interconnected cave system extending under the whole map that some people are claiming has not been shown. Thank you for watching!
@@tin_sensei i am not sure if that wholemap cavesystem is even possible on the switch
@@ropuluff2333 It definitely is. And that’s because when your in an enclosed cave NOTHING else needs to be loaded in besides nearby caverns. So you have absolutely nothing to fear when it comes to caves.
amazing video! thank you
What if hypothetically they are using the same map but Hyrule has been rebuilt and has more life than it did in BOTW so there’s more to see and do?
For people who haven’t 100% the game it doesn’t matter to much. I’ve played through three times not never 100% but I think they have made some adjustments to the map but not made a complete new one.
I've been worried about the map and exploration too. I've been avoiding playing botw because I want totk to feel new when I explore the game. Hopefully its different and I have a feeling it definitely will be but it won't change my worries until we get something that confirms we will get a lot more on the surface.
The "story"
Well done on the video 🎉 thank you
I have the same fears like you and it prevents me from getting excited for the new game ...... But I have the hope while they are reusing basically the same map the game is about time travel and stuff so at least they can reposition the villages and ruins and other kind of structures to reward exploration. That and that the manage to melt in some really good (traditional) zelda dungeons into the world ..... but i am a little bit concerned that they show so little ......
I honestly hope there's a lot more villages as the calamity has passed and civilization has had a bit of down time to rebuild. that will definitely help with the exploration. maybe even hyrule castle town could be rebuilt, who knows.
No hate, this is an great video, but since GOW 2018 came out, people have been expecting sequels to be huge reboots, new maps, new everything, with a few exceptions. So far it seems like what a proper sequel should be, an expansion on the first game. Before all these modern games, sequels pretty much used to be like that.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Botw's E3 trailer is one of the best videogame trailers ever bloody made. And, well, I don't need to tell you about the game itself! Totk has a tough bar to clear!
Curious, you’re concerned for the same reasons I’m the most hyped I’ve been for a game in a long while, the lack of updates might very well mean something big is coming.
I believe such concerns comes from experiences with another games more than zelda games itself, we have absolutely no reason to believe nintendo will drop the ball on this with their track record on first party titles.
We saw a cave entrance in a trailer
Anyone played Super Mario Galaxy? Ever played Super Mario Galaxy 2? That's the same trajectory BOTW is going with TOTK. Prepared to be blown away. There is a reason why many people were complaining about Galaxy 2 missing from SM3D All Stars.....
It’s a sequel to a very very popular game. They don’t need to show much and we already have an idea of what the game is. It’s not a brand new concept.
Same happened with God of War Ragnarok. People thought it was in trouble. That was far from the truth. Believe in the Zelda team.
I’d like you to have faith as big as botw is remember there still was a lot that wasn’t used the ocean, underground the sky and while only was confirmed I reckon they’re saving the rest for that meaty fat trailer and who know what other mechanic there may be to reveal more of the land which we have yet to see. We also have on going story not memories Zelda is with us and may be playable or anything of that sort new arm mechanics to play with the world and it’s contents.
I expect to see the big two months before release trailer like breath of the wild got for the February direct and also just because the reason the same world doesn’t mean it’s going to be completely out of ideas if I trust one team the most coming up with ideas in a familiar space I would say it’s the Zelda team
2's development period has basically matched the original game's, and for that one, they had to create the game engine, plan out all of the game mechanics, create the massive world, etc. Even when considering the pandemic, BotW2 HAS to have more dramatic restructuring than plunking some islands in the sky... right? That CAN'T have been all they worked on for the last half decade.
My best guess is that all of the new things they're adding may not present well in trailers for whatever reason, so they just... haven't been shown. Or maybe I'm just wrong and the game has had really troubled development. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
only 231 subs.. you did a million sub quality video.. so if you keep making videos like this, you'll grow & grow :)
Okay well take this into consideration. It's roughly taking them 5 years to make a game that already has a map built out for itself instead of making a game from scratch. They have a vision with this it's taking them 5 years to make a game with reused assets so it must be something special.
i think the fact that this game is taking them a super long time is a great sign, unlike breath of the wild they have the base game done, that means they’ve spent 4 years exclusively on the gameplay. i trust that nintendo have fuelled this game to the brim
I dont agree with your viewpoint on this, however the video is very well made, and its shocking that you dont have more subscribers. A tip from a somewhat former content creator before having gone back to university for graduate school: you need more calls to action in your videos. You are not converting as many subscribers as you could be for the quality of content, 1/3 or 1/4 through the video after you have hooked the viewer you should call on viewers to subscribe to support you making more videos. Great video, and ill be subscribing
If TOTK has the same emptiness and lack of content it would be disappointing.
I’ve got a big hunch that this game is going to feature the temple of time and multiple eras of Hyrule to explore. No cave systems, but at least two different time zones, maybe 3 to explore and travel between to solve puzzles. The lack of Sheikah tech in the new game is astonishing, and leads me to believe that tears of the kingdom is another lengthy period of time in the future, hence why the moblins and bokoblins have longer horns, or that this game is set waaay back in the past. This all speculation and the game maybe trash, who knows, but with the previous knowledge that they had tons of ideas for botw that far outweighed the scope of what the first game visualized, I’d say it’s probably fair that this game is going to let us explore some unknown sky realm, or maybe travel through time.
unrelated but in 2023 we will end 2 9 year cycles:
the zelda BOWT era 2014 to 2023
the GOTG trilogy 2014 to 2023
While I personally don't agree with you I noticed at the end of the video you're a smaller creator. That alone makes me want to have your voice be heard to others because it is a well made video! I wish you success in the future and hopefully something we can agree upon 😂
The music volume is so loud your mic volume can barely pick up audio
I understand the concern, but let’s not pretend like nearly every zelda game hasn’t been a complete banger, I believe we are in great hands
Let’s also not pretend like nearly every game hasn’t had troubled development
i have the same concern, all those years for just some skylands? i did not even like playing skyward sword! i can only hope the make up with time travelling so we can go back and forward in to time
One week has 168 hours. That means the only thing that guy did for one week was sleep, eat and play zelda.
Dude I gotta know if you played it yet and what you thought if you have
It is very unlikely (I hope) that they will just make this long awaited game a overly glorified DLC instead of a great masterpiece. I might be wrong, cos TBH (I do love Nintendo, but as they say "Nintendo is gotta Nintendo"). However, more often than not, they're well known for dropping old mechanics/gameplay/maps never to use them again (with a few exceptions) and that is what I want to believe they're doing here: maybe the map will be the same but it must be highly altered! maybe the sky map will be so interesting that we will not be keen to spend ANY of your time on the surface... who knows. There's a recent patent that describes an immediate warping system (which makes me believe that they really want us to travel easily between sky islands). Also, another theory I've is that they don't want to show any of the real "beef" of the game just now because they don't want to kill the hype (and you can see it's working, people won't stop talking about theories and crazy so called "leaks" of this game!), this is a brilliant marketing strategy... if they reveal "look, this is the new map (or the changes to the old one), and these are all the new mechanics" too soon, people all over the internet will stop hyping about this since they won't have anything to theorised. Again, remember since they're reusing graphic engine + map, they only have so much "wow factor", so they have to use it right! Again, I could be wrong, there are games made by Nintendo and even by Zelda team that makes you think "What the #$%& were they thinking?" - ahemSkywardSwordahem .... but... you can always hope. Really nice video, really liked your placid way you narrated everything. Keep up the good work! Sorry for the long post here's a potato 0