The Traditional Latin Mass-with Palestrina's Missa Papae Marcelli: Kyrie by the Tallis Scholars
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MASS OF THE AGES is a trilogy that explores the richness of the Traditional Latin Mass through stunning cinematography and inspiring stories. But it’s not just a beautiful. It’s also an investigation into the surprising events that led to the creation of the New Mass. MASS OF THE AGES will give you a deep appreciation for your Catholic faith.
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REASONS WHY I LOVE THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS.
1. Ad Orientem worship
2. Use of Latin
3. Gregorian chant
4. Communion on the tongue while kneeling
5. Priestly vestments
6. Beauty, Truth and Goodness. It’s a little Holy Trinity
7. Reverence
8. Sacred music is beautiful, good and true
9. Alter rails
10. Universality
11. Reverence for the Most Holy Eucharist
12. Mystery
13. Confession before every Mass
14. Homilies/Sermons are substantive
15. Reverence for the Holy Name of God
16. God-centric
17. Historical
18. Counter-cultural
19. Silence
20. Only way of adoration and worship befitting for Christ
21. Altar boys with synchronized genuflections
22. Mantillas and generally modest and respectful attire
23. Growing young families
24. Incense
25. The Last Gospel
26. Mass of the Saints
Well, good reasons, I would say. God bless.
@Harry Waddington that is true and churches such as St John Cantius demonstrate this. However, there are differences of substance and content from the TLM. If you’re not familiar with the history behind the differences check out the Ottaviani Intervention. This difference is also evident when celebrating the Eastern Rites.
@Harry Waddington Praise God for wisdom, understanding, council, and grace....Him who was who is and who is to come. May you be a gentle traditionalist as you evangelize. Check out the blog gentle traditionalist if you haven’t already.
Sorry Gentle traditionalist is part of the book titles the blog site is Cor Jesu Sacratissimum
@Harry Waddington St Francis de Sales , pray for us
The Mass, not Utopia, is Really and Truly Heaven on Earth.
Very, VERY well said.
It’s literally Heaven on earth!
Agreed. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
In this Mass is the future of the Church.
The future, the present, and the past, it truly is a Catholic mass in the Universal sense of the word. Universal in both time and space.
I love how you show the 1940s Latin Mass video and show your production version of it side by side. It really represents how untouched this mass is and how it’s universal no matter the time or place where it is celebrated or who it is celebrated by.
I know. It makes one a bit emotional.
reality check I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & have just listen; let them have their say, but I cannot be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace
@@dan69052 Again dude, you’re all over the LM videos spewing the same garbage like the devil.
The devil hates Latin. Stop trolling me and the LM.
My soul craves this. `I need it. The world needs it.
The TRUE MASS , the way commands us to worship HIM
What if I suggested that it is not? Would you curiously ask why or burn me at the stake, boil me in oil or throw me to the lions instead?
@@danteprudente8637 heretics should be burned at the stake, so yes
@@larrygraysmith8411 I agree heretics s/b burned at the stake too. But I am not saying that the Mass of Pius the V is not the true mass. It is. But I ask the same Q... what if I suggested that this isn't the true Mass would you understand or at least ask why I sugesst that? Or is it Burn first hold an inquisition later?
Ps - You do know that the inquisition didn't actually condemn and burn very many people at all don't you? That's why its called the 'Inquisition" because they asked questions first.
@@danteprudente8637 If you suggested that Tridentine mass is not the true mass, I would ask you why? Why do you think so.
Ps. Yes, I know that Inquisition didn't kill many people. For example, the most notorious Inquisition (Spanish Inquisition) killed only 3000 people throughout its existence (appr. 300 yrs). That makes 10 people per year, that's less than executions by us government. Also, we need to distinguish between Secular and Church Inquisitions. That's crucial.
And yes, word "Inquisition" is from latin word "inquaerere" which means "to discover, or" to acknowledge"
@@larrygraysmith8411 Ty. Now that is the reply I'd hope to get. Few are knowledgeable.
The Tridentine Mass or TLM is the One True Mass of the One True Faith. But I have found that most trads (including trained modern clergy) do not understand that the modern version of the TLM (Mass of pope John XXII aka 1962 missal) is not properly the Tridentine Mass of Trent (Mass of St Pope Pius V). It was only chosen by Lefebvre (and select others) as the very last mass that could "still be" considered Catholic; and not because it was the best mass to feed the Traditional Catholic faith. Lefebvre and select others signed off on all the Vatican II docs (even if they only later may have regretted them).
The major content was the liturgy and not Ecumenism. That second thorn of Ecumenism, only came into large scale contention after Assisi 1986. Lefebvre did not oppose pJPII (who he believed was a legit Pope) or even reject the 1983 Johanno-Pauline Code as far as I understand it. And this is the code of Canon law the SSPX uses today (just like all Novus Ordo believers), and not the 1917 or Pio Benedictine Code; even if at times (if sparsely at that anymore) they appeal to it.
The changes (to the TRUE Mass) first began under Pius XI (who was still thoroughly Catholic I believe but ill advised to say the least) towards the Mass that would begin the juggernaut. Most ignore the first major and significant change to the Mass (not withstanding Canon Law which is a whole other discussion altogether); and that is the introduction of the 'Dialogue Mass'.
It was the first step in downgrading and replacing the priest and elevating laity to equality with the priest (an early "all inclusiveness"). Ever wondered how we got communion in the hand? Welk this is the starting line - the Dialogue mass.
The next-generation of significant changes came in the mid 1950's and showed how ready the church was now under Pius XXII for greater change. The Easter week rites were significantly revised and vigils abolished by 1960. A very important one was the All Hollows eve vigil - very important for keeping the true Fatima message.
Next came Vatican II and all Hell broke loose. The rest is history.
Back to this post and reply....
So the Tridentine mass is the true mass, but between 1922 and 1962 (40 years) it was wounded. Then it was butally mutilated in the interim mass of 1965. And finally desecrated, no longer a Catholic mass at all as it was utterly destroyed in mass of Paul V.
This excerpt (video above) from Palestrinas Mass of Pope Marcellus is a papal coronation mass and not a standard Solemn High Mass that you might find at say St John Cantius or a large FSSP Sunday celebration. I see Solemn High masses with lots of smoke (incense) and Gregorian chant, polyphinic choral arrangements shown on the internet demonstrating how reverent the TLM is. But it's not common reality.
Most TLM's you'll find today (Mass of John XXII or the 62 liturgy) are actually poorly done low mass. The Solemn High masses are a 50/50 deal (as far as accuracy goes) but usually better done since they are commonly found in more wealthy upscale Catholic centers with wealthy orders conducting them.
Average Diocesan TLM's (62 missal) especially those incorrectly called 'missa cantata' or sung mass (which are usually hybrids of low and high but sung) are the worst as only a high mass can be a Sung Mass.
The simple point is that the above example of pride and pompey is not the real reason one should attend the TLM although I suppose it can be a starting point.
I like to see the traditionalist movement move toword a true Restoration including the abolishing of the Dialogue mass and a return to the real Catholic Mass of Pius V (w/ Pius X rubrics) because.... they have already began to tamper with the 62 missal since 2007 and Summorum Pontificum to make it conform to the modernist faith. The latest development in this and that went totally under the radar during Covid lockdowns was the adding of prefaces for the 62 missal including a wedding preface (lifted almost word for word from the Novus Ordo) in the summer of last year 2020 that almost no laity have been told of.
All the Big Wig celebrity Trads did not report on it did they? No because they are 100% Vatican II also. They just want the mass thier way. They'd actually be happy with the 65 missal if that's all they could get and never mutter a word against it.
Tradiziones Custodes only reinforces what Ratzinger demanded - submission to the Novus Ordo. And that had not been given and so now it will be strictly controlled and slowly celebrated inaccordance with the Novus Ordo theology and saints.
God Bless
See:
Dialogue Mass
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogue_Mass
Changes to the 1955 liturgy and Calendar
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liturgical_reforms_of_Pope_Pius_XII
Further changes and suppression
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Roman_Calendar_of_1960
THE MASS of John XXII
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Missal
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday_prayer_for_the_Jews
New 62 Missal preferances (2020)
www.vaticannews.va/en/vatican-city/news/2020-03/recent-saints-and-new-prefaces-added-to-1962-roman-missal.html
And....for a deeper insite
www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2020/03/new-prefaces-and-feasts-for-ef-missal.html?m=1
As you can see I have has to go no further the Wikipedia in most cases to construct a chronological timeline of systematically changing, destroying and inverting the Tridentine Mass since 1922 (and I have not even gon into the nouvelle théologie movenent (New Theology Movement) and how it developed under modernism to effect the liturgy) to show that the 62 missal is although still Catholic (it is barely so). Ultra conservative modern (neo-trads) Catholics can still accept it, even prefer it, but is not purely Catholic and will be modernized into hybrid in the near future.
Beware.
Also See:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouvelle_th%C3%A9ologie
Please let me know what you think but don't be surprised if the thread is deleted by administrators if they catch on and read it. It's not the kind of take they aporove of.
God Bless
I just found a Latin mass in my area!
Prays be Jesus and Mary now and forever 🕊💕
How wonderful it is to be catholic!!!
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The way to Heaven. Just Beautiful.
Brought tears to my eyes
Glorious! Shivers up and down my spine. I love the Latin Mass.
reality check I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & have just listen; let them have their say, but I cannot be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace
Y’all did a very good job at making me cry these last five minutes.
Me every Sunday 🥹
So heavenly this Sacrifice! And now it's threatened by our own Pope and 2 Cardinals! Ave Maria ora pro nobis+
Francis is antipope
Popes and their ideologies come and go. The Mass is forever 💪🙏
Heaven on Earth !!
Beautiful. Just beautiful.
Ave Maria
Ave Christus Rex
Very nice. So much was lost with Vatican II.
Gloria in excelsis Deo!
BEAUTIFUL WORK!!!!!! DONT LET THE HATERS TELL YOU OTHERWISE.....IT AINT RUSHED ITS PERFECT.
Missa Papa Maracelli always brings me to tears!!! A priest once said that they are playing Bach’s St. Matthew’s Passion in Heaven; I sure hope this entire piece from Palastrina is playing as well.
I love MPM so much. It's incredible.
I go to mass 50 times a week thanks to this.
So beautiful!
As someone who is thinking 9f joining it is the traditions that has drawn me to the church.
Pope Francis's new edict about the Latin mass breaks my heart. I feel like I might miss out on the very thing that has drawn me and most converts of I know to the church.
Because of covid I have yet to attend a mass in person due to living in am extremely high risk household.
Prayers that Pope Francis who is supposed to be out holy father in Rome realized he is snatching the highest virtue out of his children's reachm
reality check I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & have just listen; let them have their say, but I cannot be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace
Pope can try to take away the truly catholic mass, but he has no authority to do so.
God bless you all for making this beautiful video
Sublime. And my favourite Palestrina Kyrie too. I hope I'll hear that in heaven if, please God I make it there. Love
Timeless! How beautiful!
Fantastic work here, this deserves way more attention.
🥺🥺🥺❤️ It’s just soooo soooooo beautiful. My Lord and My God. ❤️🙏🏻🥺
Wow, so beautiful and so good for a persons (in the state of grace) soul.
That's an awesome video - even a Low Mass is so beautiful. And having clips of a Solemn Mass in there was good. Hopefully piques some interest.
One word for me “Beautiful”
I hope you can achieve the amount for the FSSP testimony to be shown, hopefully some from Mexico City (please) and Guadalajara. They literally have changed my life, now I do appreciate the actual Mass. God bless you
reality check I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & have just listen; let them have their say, but I cannot be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace
Such an incredible blessing that words cannot express.
I'm praying priest fall in love with this Mass again.
BEAUTIFUL! SO DIVINE!
So incredibly beautiful.
Beautiful
You will expiriance the presence of God, personally and intimately in the Traditional Latin Mass. The Mass that has been celebrated for close to two thousand years!
As an Orthodox, my heart breaks for my Western brothers and sisters who have never attended a traditional liturgy.
The Novus Ordo is an absolute joke in comparison to the glory of your traditional Latin Mass.
Lord have mercy! ☦️
@easton thayn Ditto, as a Latin Catholic that is awestruck by the Divine Liturgy. 💙🙏🏻
No Mass is a joke.
@@Who63
Oh...? Pretty sure the existence of ACTUAL clowns conducting and participating in the Mass is the definition of “a joke.”
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@@permanenceaesthetic6545 I’m not looking at anything as you are an anti Catholic and not in communion with Rome as Christ founded the Catholic Church not the orthodox one. He told Peter to start his church
Matt 14:16. Where did Jesus say start my Orthodox Church? And on whose authority?
Anyway, like I said a Catholic Mass is still a Mass. period.
@@permanenceaesthetic6545 By the way these churches are not Catholic some are Lutheran, and Episcopalian. I already no what you’re talking about. And this is very rare. But nice try.
Solemn, beautiful, inspiring, ordered, respectful. What is the point of 'improving' a tradition that is already perfect?
Blessed be almighty God now and forever
That was so powerful and so beautiful I felt the Lord present when I was watching this thank you so much 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
I did too breathing ❤❤❤❤
I hear "Do you speak Latin? Do you want everyone to speak Latin in order to attend Mass?" I say, if someone is able to evangelize and be a witness of God with one's life (even without words) what is so crazy about seeing solemn, beautiful and lovable worship to God even if we don't hear everything said by the priest? Latin Mass is a beautiful treasure that must be kept.
Beauty will save the world.
Ave Maria Purisima 🌹🤍🌹
Felt like a homecoming
...bo to jest powrót do domu do korzeni do początku!!!
Me encantaría que todos sus videos tuvieran traducción al español. Gracias y mis oraciones para ustedes 🙂
I want this for my daily mass! Other worldly.
Beautiful 🥺❤️💕
The Mass is the Primary Prayer of the Catholic Church. The Mass does not sacrifice Jesus again. Jesus sacrificed Himself only once. The Mass removes all of the restrictions of time and place, and makes us actually present at Jesus Christ's one-and-only Sacrifice. It is truly the Most Beautiful Thing this side of Heaven!
reality check I have been hearing much about the controversy regarding the Latin mass. Really! There is so much pain, suffering, child abuse & injustice in the world, yet petty bureaucrats spend their time on this made-up insignificant problem! I understand people ‘s concern about religious matters & have just listen; let them have their say, but I cannot be silent on this. This is one big crock of crap. You think an Almighty Being is concerned about which language & customs holy men use as they prance around chanting dribble? As these old useless holy men sit around & engage in their mental masturbation meetings, people are starving for help. This entire fiasco is trivia. You let this occupies your time with so many urgent needs to be addressed. Shame! The upside to all this nonsensical bickering is that people can see what a farce religion is & find it easy to leave it behind. All polls show people are leaving this mythological excrement behind. Peace
@@dan69052 Don't hold back. Tell us what you really feel!
beautiful
Absolutely beautiful.. I will
Return to the Latin Mass in a heartbeat 🙏
This literally brings me to tears, how much I miss this Mass 😥
Beautiful! 😍
DAS ist Göttliche Liturgie!
Das Abbild des Himmels auf Erden!
Opfer und Anbetung! Engelsgesang!
Great video. TLM is a gift, meditative, traditional and mystery in sights, sounds and scents. The adoration at the alter is powerful, all facing east. I highly recommend attending. You don’t need to know a thing, you don’t need to follow along in the missal (although I find it enjoyable as well) just go and be meditative. Also, the sermon is in English…
How could anyone want to restrict or phase out such a devout adoration of the sarcrafice of the mass and glory to GOD The Father for sending his only Son as the sacraficial Lamb to save us.
For us newbies it might be helpful to have subtitled 'Sections' so we could understand which part is where. Great video beautiful songs. Thank you.
"Give to the Lord the HONOR due His name...."
I found your channel a few say ago and am stunned to know you were hidden in my laptop for however long you have been on the internet.! I have to thank you for the map which showed me a Latin Mass Church just 2.1 miles away from my home, and I can get there on a bus and at the time of day or evening that works for me.!So much greatness,so available .Thank you and Good bless you.
Awesome video!
I can barely wait for the first part of the documentary to be released.
So beautiful to be near Our Lord at the TLM!
Glory to God❣️🙏🕊
Amen ❤
BeautifulI love it.❤️🙏🏻Praise God
awesome
Very beautiful images and music especially! I don't know if slow-motion can help it, but it feels a bit rushed. Almost there but I can't put my finger on it. Thank you for putting blood, sweat, and tears into this. God bless your mission of traditional evangelization!
Yes I agree about making it slow motion. I might also suggest muting the audio of the actual mass since Palestrina is playing but maybe isolate the audio of the bells at consecration because that would be powerful.
nope. I disagree. this is amazing. you have no idea what you're talking about. do you work in video? no. so let them be. I find it absolutely gorgeous
Beauty!
A taste of heaven to help undure this valley of tears.
IF TLM is banned, this beautiful 5 minute Mass is in our souls, St. Teresa wrote about Mentsl Prayer....let's keep this Holy Mass in our souls Adoring Almighty Holy God, thanking Hom for loving us all. Amen
❤ beautiful.
Our beautiful MASS!!!! God put it upon my heart to return to the Latin mass. We MUST be warriors of God of THE eternal LIVING GOD It is right and just!!!!!!!!!! In nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti…..Amen. He will come for his bride the church, be faithful and love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is always the Mass that has mattered to believing Catholics. Many paid for this faith with their lives. Holy Mass is to give us a taste of the heavenly...not the earthly which we have our fill of daily. May the Triune God be forever praised through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass!
Just so beautiful just so right..
Very good.
Beautiful!
I love the reverence to Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Latin Mass 🙏 ❤ Soli Deo Gloria !!!!
Carissimi fratres, pax Domini sit semper vobiscum.
TLM is just order and perfect.
My father was a TLM server when he was a teenager in 1950's.
I am a traditionalist and love Latin Mass.
So, you shouldn't name yourself as traditionalist. You are normal catholic, who despite of crisis in Church haven't lost the faith. Tradition is true way of The Christ's Church which is unchanged, His mystical Body, supernaturally and overtime. God bless you :-)
Quiero ir a una Misa en latín 😢
My Lord and my God.
it would b really nice if you can create more of these with the other Missa Pape M music. :) thanks for the upload
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Cool video of my home parish. Now if they could just fix the A/C. ;-)
To Jesus for Jesus all about Jesus please answer our prayers be Gods will love being catholic
Awesome scene on the Navy ship in heavy seas.
I do not understand why they took this away from us, and they hold us in such contempt for simply desiring it again.
I think it’s because the TLM raises a mirror they don’t want to look into and make them conclude realities they don’t want to acknowledge.
Chcą zniszczyć Wiarę Katolicką!
I don't understand why every man who is called to become a priest - why he doesn't run to this beautiful, holy sacrifice offered to our holy and wonderful God.
For the Modern man/women the N O doesn't seem to require them to examine their conscience or humble themselves before God or stand in awe before God, it's more about feeling good about ourselves and having a pleasant time. Which is why they rarely mention sin.
👍👍👍🙏😇
RESTORE THE TRUE FAITH, our TRUE MASS+ PER CHRISTUM DOMINUM NOSTRUM+
O Beauty ever ancient!
It's beautiful but a bit confusing because the kyrie is at the start of Mass. I often think maybe it would be good to arrange for the Tallis Scholars to sing during the traditional Mass rather than just do recording. By the way look at Alamire in Henry's Music. They reconstruct and dress as a real Catholic Choir in Arundel in the Duke of Norfolk's Chapel at the time just before Henry's deformation.
There is a lot missing as well as more lighting would help show what is going on. But for someone who has a history with the TLM, the point is taken.
Benedicamus Domino. Deo gratias.
Wow, some people still remember that life is about glorifying the Lord!
when the priest says Sanctam three times, what part of the mass is he at?
That's the 'Sanctus', the 'Holy, Holy Holy...' at the beginning of the Canon of the Mass which leads into the Consecration.
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Do parishioners receive holy communion at a latin mass.?
Yes, they do.
Yes, but always kneeling at the altar rails, and on the tongue, not in the hand.
Why?
Why did they ever change it…?
How long to finish the documentary?
Who disliked this??
PROBABLY A PROTESTANT OR A DEMOCRAT
This video could have been better.
Pope Francis