No why should I support it when I know it's not going to work out. Would rather rip up the band-aid now when I know he's going to get sacked by Christmas anyway
@@JimmyLeSpursthat make sense and start again from the scratch where has that got us ? We have to be patient simple if you can’t watch now come back when they start winning
I am more put away by fans and this youtube pundits than the players to be honest. we played good football in three games and lost points, and play one bad game and win. And you still have people hitting the team. Sometimes in games you need luck like Newcastle, play four games badly bad still. I remember under Nunes we played three games badly but won al three games and fans still hit the team. Potch team was win games but it was never in control of most of their matches, that is why their won zero. This team in the past four matches controlled matches. Arsenal was forced on the backfoot, it looked clever because their sneaked a goal but they were pushed back. A thing previous tottenham team never achieved (atleast in my fanhood). I am watching Arsenal now vs Atalanta and are dominating the game. please give the team break.
How many times over the years have inferior opponents done a smash n grab on us? So was nice to see us doing a smash n grab on someone else for a change. But no question we were shocking last nite and that Ange got his selection badly wrong (he didnt seem to learn from fulham last year). But more worrying in my view is that our poor form from the end of last season seems to have carried on into this season and we wont get as lucky again this season as we did last nite
His unwillingness to adapt is plainly obvious to see…..the players passing the ball sideways, backwards & sideways again is their defiance to him: we’ll keep on playing crap until you change or you get sacked!
Absolutely agree with Sim. When we see underdogs beat better teams with more quality we often highlight their structure and the system. Watching that game you realise our system was being easily figured out and a system to counter what we try to do by far lesser players was easily implemented. What won us the game yesterday was our better players coming on and winning us the game. For me as well this is a tremendous worry as throughout a long premier league season with injuries, resting and rotating players the system and how we play needs to carry us through in alot of games. At present the way we play i dont think we are getting the best out of maddison, son porro udogie solankie bentancour
Ange doesn't do defence and he doesn't do tactics. He just does system then its up to the players to get the result. Ange is just passing the responsibility to the players. The players have no fall back position should our opposition get in the ascendancy. Unfortunately the whole set up is shoving our players under the bus Ange has to go so the players can play with some substance and get some belief back, Not just stand there with his hands in his pockets like a headmaster COYS.
Ange is the only manager i know of who could take this man city team and destroy it. The only idiot still supporting him are celtic fans, though i bet thats starting to change.
Think 6-1 at bolton (who were a championship side) in the lge cup under gerry francis was worse mate - mind you we could easily have lost by by 3 or 4-1 last nite.
I recon Ange as lost the dressing room the body language of the players speaks for it self Ange as signed 16. Players He is just a Yes man get a new manager he will have a Ange’s dead wood !!!
Our depth is god awful i feel so bad for Solanke gets 0 service man, Werner loan should be terminated in January I’d rather see this Yang kid. We have to change this system and get Maddison higher up the pitch to get on the ball also i hate our rest defense one ball cuts us open doesn’t matter who we play Coventry just spammed long balls and was through every second
I now think that Ange's tactics aren't up to snuff. Sonny, an outstanding player by most people's standards, has been forgettable at the start of the season and that shouldn't be. Everyone sees that he is not a winger. I can't remember the last time he crossed from the byline, as most times he gets pinned in the corner and has to pass off to Madison or another player. He is an inside forward and it frustrates me to no end that Ange doesn't tweak his tactics to play to Son's strengths. Also, it appears that we have no transition game. We have to be fast on the attack to beat our opponents to their box. Right now our attack is so slow that our opponents frequently get the opportunity to stack behind the ball and stuff us. Ange's tactics this season are secretly more pragmatic than Mourinho's, Nuno's or Conte's. We don't play an attacking, control possession game - we don't score! Instead, we fecklessly pass the ball around and control possession, but that possession is functioning as a form of defense rather than an offense. I realize that our tactics are meant to be offensive, but meant to be isn't being. If Ange insists, which he does, to keep playing wingers to provide width (not effective so far) move Son into the middle. Imagine switching off Madison, Son and Kulu in the middle. I think it would work.
We stunk the place out. Very lucky to get through. Ange is out of his depth. Watching that game last night it felt like he is starting to lose the dressing room. Lets face it he has never managed at this level and my question is are some of his players questioning his 'it's how we play mate' philosophy.
Has Son ever played on the right? Could he be tried on the right, switching with Solanke at times, allowing Odobert to play on the left (if injury not too bad). Johnson could sub on for Son or Solanke (moving Son central). It seems to me Son needs a change, Odobert looked way better on the left, Johnson could do with a period as a 60 min sub. I’ve never seen Son or Solanke out wide right though, so 🤷♂️
If vicario gets injured we are in shit,forster should hang up the gloves. Bergval did ok why take him off. Werner awful as usual,johnson offered nothing apart from the goal. Midfield creates zero. Solanke got little or no service but still dont look my money well spent. Nit calling for anges head yet but any more shit shows like this and he be gone
Bottom line, it's a quality issue. Always it goes back to Levy not paying top dollar for top quality..........EVER. Hope that changes in the next transfer window (...............yeah, right).
Ange wants to give his whole squad ago, just shows overall squad is weak. But kept positive most so-called loyal supporters are far from it. Judge at end of season,
Fans hey, we play well lose fans moan, we play bad and win fans moan, life of a Tottenham fan. The changes was going to always affect the team, but it’s all in the context of this team is not yet where we want and with every game we going to see that. Think if we can get Ederson from Atlanta in the summer transfer that would give us that screen in front our back 4. Formation is just information if the players can’t apply the information given to them you get that performance.
I'm starting to think that the fans are the problem!!! Support your team THINK OR THIN !!!!!!!
No why should I support it when I know it's not going to work out. Would rather rip up the band-aid now when I know he's going to get sacked by Christmas anyway
@@JimmyLeSpursthat make sense and start again from the scratch where has that got us ? We have to be patient simple if you can’t watch now come back when they start winning
I am more put away by fans and this youtube pundits than the players to be honest. we played good football in three games and lost points, and play one bad game and win. And you still have people hitting the team. Sometimes in games you need luck like Newcastle, play four games badly bad still. I remember under Nunes we played three games badly but won al three games and fans still hit the team. Potch team was win games but it was never in control of most of their matches, that is why their won zero. This team in the past four matches controlled matches. Arsenal was forced on the backfoot, it looked clever because their sneaked a goal but they were pushed back. A thing previous tottenham team never achieved (atleast in my fanhood). I am watching Arsenal now vs Atalanta and are dominating the game. please give the team break.
Fans dont make the tactics, ya dummy
How many times over the years have inferior opponents done a smash n grab on us? So was nice to see us doing a smash n grab on someone else for a change. But no question we were shocking last nite and that Ange got his selection badly wrong (he didnt seem to learn from fulham last year). But more worrying in my view is that our poor form from the end of last season seems to have carried on into this season and we wont get as lucky again this season as we did last nite
Don’t mind this Tottenham fans we complaining about getting a win 😂😂😂
I thought Davies was the best player on the pitch for us
The fans treating Brennan horribly is the problem! Unacceptable behavior.
His unwillingness to adapt is plainly obvious to see…..the players passing the ball sideways, backwards & sideways again is their defiance to him: we’ll keep on playing crap until you change or you get sacked!
Absolutely agree with Sim. When we see underdogs beat better teams with more quality we often highlight their structure and the system. Watching that game you realise our system was being easily figured out and a system to counter what we try to do by far lesser players was easily implemented. What won us the game yesterday was our better players coming on and winning us the game. For me as well this is a tremendous worry as throughout a long premier league season with injuries, resting and rotating players the system and how we play needs to carry us through in alot of games. At present the way we play i dont think we are getting the best out of maddison, son porro udogie solankie bentancour
Ange doesn't do defence and he doesn't do tactics. He just does system then its up to the players to get the result.
Ange is just passing the responsibility to the players. The players have no fall back position should our opposition get in the ascendancy.
Unfortunately the whole set up is shoving our players under the bus Ange has to go so the players can play with some substance and get some belief back, Not just stand there with his hands in his pockets like a headmaster COYS.
Ange is the only manager i know of who could take this man city team and destroy it. The only idiot still supporting him are celtic fans, though i bet thats starting to change.
Yes lucky to beat a 14th placed Championship side that was embarrassing us in our worst performance in history four minutes from crashing out.
Think 6-1 at bolton (who were a championship side) in the lge cup under gerry francis was worse mate - mind you we could easily have lost by by 3 or 4-1 last nite.
@@LeighRichards27 Thanks. True! Should have said worst performance I've ever seen since 2002
I recon Ange as lost the dressing room the body language of the players speaks for it self Ange as signed 16. Players He is just a Yes man get a new manager he will have a Ange’s dead wood !!!
Ange is the problem
Thought Davies was excellent on the ball?!
Our fans are toxic .
They've played well and lost. This time they played badly and won. It all evens out.
Wasn't good to watch. But into next round. Job done.
Our depth is god awful i feel so bad for Solanke gets 0 service man, Werner loan should be terminated in January I’d rather see this Yang kid. We have to change this system and get Maddison higher up the pitch to get on the ball also i hate our rest defense one ball cuts us open doesn’t matter who we play Coventry just spammed long balls and was through every second
Bentacur, Sarr, Johnson (aside from the goal), Werner, Solanke and Forster were all terrible last night
I now think that Ange's tactics aren't up to snuff. Sonny, an outstanding player by most people's standards, has been forgettable at the start of the season and that shouldn't be. Everyone sees that he is not a winger. I can't remember the last time he crossed from the byline, as most times he gets pinned in the corner and has to pass off to Madison or another player. He is an inside forward and it frustrates me to no end that Ange doesn't tweak his tactics to play to Son's strengths. Also, it appears that we have no transition game. We have to be fast on the attack to beat our opponents to their box. Right now our attack is so slow that our opponents frequently get the opportunity to stack behind the ball and stuff us. Ange's tactics this season are secretly more pragmatic than Mourinho's, Nuno's or Conte's. We don't play an attacking, control possession game - we don't score! Instead, we fecklessly pass the ball around and control possession, but that possession is functioning as a form of defense rather than an offense. I realize that our tactics are meant to be offensive, but meant to be isn't being. If Ange insists, which he does, to keep playing wingers to provide width (not effective so far) move Son into the middle. Imagine switching off Madison, Son and Kulu in the middle. I think it would work.
Remember the poch days of being 4 nil up at half time
Can we talk more about Sonny & Johnson who are fantastic inside forwards are being put in the wrong places? They are not hugging the lines wingers
agree. we don't have a single proven winger who fits the system
Sonny a legend,johnson average at best
Am so happy we won. That is football and banana skin games. We worked it out in the end.
We stunk the place out. Very lucky to get through.
Ange is out of his depth. Watching that game last night it felt like he is starting to lose the dressing room. Lets face it he has never managed at this level and my question is are some of his players questioning his 'it's how we play mate' philosophy.
Weak team long season ahead probably position 10th ange sacked by january.
Has Son ever played on the right? Could he be tried on the right, switching with Solanke at times, allowing Odobert to play on the left (if injury not too bad). Johnson could sub on for Son or Solanke (moving Son central). It seems to me Son needs a change, Odobert looked way better on the left, Johnson could do with a period as a 60 min sub. I’ve never seen Son or Solanke out wide right though, so 🤷♂️
If vicario gets injured we are in shit,forster should hang up the gloves. Bergval did ok why take him off. Werner awful as usual,johnson offered nothing apart from the goal. Midfield creates zero. Solanke got little or no service but still dont look my money well spent. Nit calling for anges head yet but any more shit shows like this and he be gone
Bottom line, it's a quality issue. Always it goes back to Levy not paying top dollar for top quality..........EVER. Hope that changes in the next transfer window (...............yeah, right).
Ange wants to give his whole squad ago, just shows overall squad is weak. But kept positive most so-called loyal supporters are far from it. Judge at end of season,
Loyal supporter does not equal positive ya delusional mug. Ange is not good.
Fans hey, we play well lose fans moan, we play bad and win fans moan, life of a Tottenham fan. The changes was going to always affect the team, but it’s all in the context of this team is not yet where we want and with every game we going to see that. Think if we can get Ederson from Atlanta in the summer transfer that would give us that screen in front our back 4. Formation is just information if the players can’t apply the information given to them you get that performance.
Thought Spence played well, why leave it till 65mins to make subs when we are playing that bad. ANGE OUT
Thomas Frank would have this team fixed I hope he becomes our manager after ange is gone.