Nuclear Effects During SAC Delivery Missions

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  • @damienkramer
    @damienkramer 11 місяців тому +318

    This is why I think UA-cam is a type of museum. All of these wonderful historical artefacts can be preserved for future generations to see.

    • @Totttty55
      @Totttty55 11 місяців тому +40

      Sooner or later UA-cam is going to run out of goodwill for keeping their data storage open, and it'll all be gone. It has to be saved on other platforms to be safe.

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 11 місяців тому

      @@Totttty55 UA-cam already censors content and comments based on political ideology, so it's already on its way.

    • @huh4233
      @huh4233 11 місяців тому +22

      Massive censorship of comments throughout the platform though. Some of this doesn't last 60 sec.

    • @PronatorTendon
      @PronatorTendon 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@huh4233That's just comments, they aren't that important

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 11 місяців тому +6

      @@PronatorTendon Funny thing is I responded to this thread minutes ago and my comment is missing.

  • @beaudure01
    @beaudure01 11 місяців тому +234

    It’s so strange that short films of this era all had the same music, whether it’s global annihilation or picking up litter at the fishing hole.

    • @handen
      @handen 11 місяців тому +9

      Vibraphones have unfortunately never been more popular as they were in the atomic age.

    • @beaudure01
      @beaudure01 11 місяців тому +9

      @@handen True story -- during my senior recital, the vibraphone slipped off a support that was filling in for a missing wheel. That thing was probably built around the same time as the Manhattan Project.

    • @saladbreath607
      @saladbreath607 9 місяців тому +3

      Peppy and patriotic. All part of the human conditioning project.

    • @TheCatBilbo
      @TheCatBilbo 9 місяців тому +7

      It's the music that says "Everything's fine, no need to worry! The Government has everything under control & your safety is paramount. Yes, this looks concerning, but it's really not - clever people are in charge!"...

    • @johnmorykwas2343
      @johnmorykwas2343 9 місяців тому

      That's because we did not want the confuse the current generation.

  • @socaljarhead7670
    @socaljarhead7670 11 місяців тому +105

    The pre- G and H model B-52s with their tall tails and clean noses were absolutely resplendent.

    • @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe
      @JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 9 місяців тому +7

      D With all the bomb racks. Timeless!

    • @socaljarhead7670
      @socaljarhead7670 9 місяців тому +3

      750 pounders all day long.

    • @swainscheps
      @swainscheps 9 місяців тому +5

      And I dig the so called ‘anti flash’ white belly. It’s a classic look.

  • @The_Fat_Controller.
    @The_Fat_Controller. 11 місяців тому +180

    During the premiere, someone in the chat commented about the wearing of eye patches. This is to keep one eye protected from flash blindness from unexpected detonations of weapons in their vicinity if the cockpit thermal curtains were not deployed. One source of these unexpected detonations could be from nuclear tipped anti-aircraft missiles launched by enemy defenders.

    • @MrShobar
      @MrShobar 11 місяців тому +9

      You get two exposures. Then you're blind.

    • @EK14MeV
      @EK14MeV 11 місяців тому +27

      The eye patch protected against dazzle, from the overwhelmingly bright flash off clouds that doesn’t burn the retina, but causes great temporary impairment to pilots who need to see instruments.
      Remember that UV emission causes permanent eye damage, not visible light. Recall that theorist Richard Feynman looked directly at the Trinity test through a vehicle window glass that filtered out damaging UV light, but he saw nasty spots for some time, aka dazzle.
      You can listen to Feynman talking about his time at Los Alamos in the YT video, _Los Alamos from Below._ Some of it is quite funny.

    • @RobertCraft-re5sf
      @RobertCraft-re5sf 11 місяців тому +3

      Makes sense I've wondered about those

    • @jaredf6205
      @jaredf6205 11 місяців тому +5

      This is what I e heard about pirates using eye patches as well lol

    • @silverismoney
      @silverismoney 11 місяців тому +6

      @@EK14MeV dude that was a movie. they used welders glass to look at trinity.

  • @ashman187
    @ashman187 11 місяців тому +103

    Fallout is a ground problem.

    • @MrRikkitikkitavi
      @MrRikkitikkitavi 10 місяців тому +9

      And intital radiation is a later problem to be dealt with (by dying) because if it is a problem you are still not vaporized.

    • @setituptoblowitup
      @setituptoblowitup 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@MrRikkitikkitavi move closer to the business

    • @MrRikkitikkitavi
      @MrRikkitikkitavi 10 місяців тому +2

      @@setituptoblowitup To hot to handle...

    • @lawless201
      @lawless201 9 місяців тому +2

      and ten years of waiting for Fallout 5.

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz 8 місяців тому

      Yeah sucks to be those guys, am I right?

  • @scottwins2
    @scottwins2 9 місяців тому +25

    My dad was a Flight Engineer on B-52's out of Faircild AFB. He would have watched this very film. Lost him at age 97, miss you dad, thank you for helping to presserve Freedom (side note. he and I flew in a B-17 together, he was in those in WW2)

    • @lawless201
      @lawless201 9 місяців тому +2

      I was born and raised in Spokane, my house was right under the flight path for the B-52's and I never missed a Open House at the base. Next time you think of your dad, let'em know some civilian said thanx for his service and letting me sit in the seats on (maybe his plane) during the airshow.

    • @mrlodwick
      @mrlodwick 9 місяців тому +1

      Dad rocked, Tim UK

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon 11 місяців тому +53

    A half hour nuclear effects video. My Saturday is complete. 😊 I love this stuff.

  • @sid2112
    @sid2112 11 місяців тому +130

    I wonder if the narrator and crew that made this film had any idea that 60 odd years later a bunch of stoners would be watching it mesmerized.

    • @reggiep75
      @reggiep75 11 місяців тому +11

      They're like 'This dude speak stiff and serious! I've got to listen! He commands me to listen!'

    • @ShroomKeppie
      @ShroomKeppie 11 місяців тому +4

      I wonder who the narrator was. The voice was very familiar.

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 10 місяців тому

      you dig the bubonic chronic- more power to ya! 🎉
      Don’t think it’s the bunch tho.
      most of us are boomers that are watching more interested in shagging our hot wives than getting loaded every night to YT military vids 😅

    • @billant2
      @billant2 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@ShroomKeppie- They all sounded the same back then. lol

    • @ArmpitStudios
      @ArmpitStudios 9 місяців тому +1

      Stoners? Hardly.

  • @chegeny
    @chegeny 11 місяців тому +75

    24:26 “Well, boys, this is it. Nuke-u-lur combat, toe-to-toe with the Rooskies.”

    • @marekryszard
      @marekryszard 10 місяців тому +8

      @chegeny: one of my favorite movies of all time.
      "You can't fight in here; this is the War Room" lol

    • @marks6663
      @marks6663 10 місяців тому +5

      Well, I've been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest thing I ever heard come over a set of earphones.

    • @willysmythe7026
      @willysmythe7026 10 місяців тому +4

      Attack Plan R

    • @nicku1
      @nicku1 9 місяців тому +2

      @@willysmythe7026 Purity of Essence

    • @5milessep
      @5milessep 9 місяців тому +2

      Well I don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single slip up

  • @johnallred716
    @johnallred716 11 місяців тому +85

    My old man was USAF/SAC, and was in the B-36 testing at Operation Upshot-Knothole in NV. He told me the blast was beyond what was expected and really shook up the plane and crew. He went on to be a navagator in B-47s and a bit in the B-52s. I'm sure he saw this 1960 film at McConnell/Wichita. He retired in early '63 after begin gone for weeks during Cuba in the fall of '62..

    • @jayerjavec
      @jayerjavec 11 місяців тому +1

      Who gives a shit.

    • @TheRogerhill1234
      @TheRogerhill1234 11 місяців тому

      I agree with you, comrade Jayer Javec. Long live Czar Putin the Horrible, destroyer of the free.@@jayerjavec

    • @mizore2190
      @mizore2190 11 місяців тому

      @@jayerjavec probably a lot of people that are here watching a video about the USAF/SAC. Why are you even here posting a comment like "who gives a shit" in response to a related story? go be stupid somewhere else.

    • @DrTWG
      @DrTWG 11 місяців тому +1

      @@jayerjavec What the hell is up with you ? - he's sharing a memory about his dad & it's perfectly relevant unlike your rather pathetic intrusion . Grow up , grow a brain , learn empathy .

    • @AdamBorseti
      @AdamBorseti 11 місяців тому +26

      ​@@jayerjavecI do. Don't be such a rube.

  • @blackbird_actual
    @blackbird_actual 11 місяців тому +27

    Love these old military training films

  • @proteusnz99
    @proteusnz99 11 місяців тому +18

    Precisely scheduling the end of the human race - an inspiring achievement

  • @GentlemensWatchServices
    @GentlemensWatchServices 11 місяців тому +48

    Not a fan of watermarking by people who neither created or own the content.

    • @chegeny
      @chegeny 11 місяців тому +10

      Agree. The US National Security Archive on YT has all of these old films without watermarks and links to detailed descriptions of what you're viewing.

    • @tjo7248
      @tjo7248 9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah this is a trashy size of watermark too

    • @trueKorvus
      @trueKorvus 8 місяців тому +4

      They've converted from a 16mm negative, cleaned up the footage and done color correction, and uploaded. I think its fair to watermark it so others may not be able to take advantage of their hard work without attribution.

    • @-danR
      @-danR 8 місяців тому +3

      @@chegeny They do have these old films and they _look_ like old films. Atom Central, et al., clean them up to the extent they almost look like HD quality.

    • @thatarse
      @thatarse 6 місяців тому

      100% spot-on

  • @seaharrierfrs1
    @seaharrierfrs1 11 місяців тому +21

    ​Wonderful shots of SAC operations, especially between flight crews at the end

    • @jrdougan
      @jrdougan 11 місяців тому +2

      Look for the video "The Power of Decision" which shows the command post operations as the war is fought. One of the few times SAC went into detail on how a nuc war would be fought.

  • @emitindustries8304
    @emitindustries8304 9 місяців тому +10

    Imagine flying around in an expensive airplane, with weapons that can kill a million people, instantly. And waiting to get the OK to drop the bombs, and not knowing what you'll return to, back home, if there is still a home. That's a tough thing to deal with.
    The movie "Fail Safe", from the mid 60s, deals with that issue. Watch that, and you'll be wiser, and more scared.

    • @Mark.R_
      @Mark.R_ 8 місяців тому

      I knew a doctor who was involved with the stress tests on B52 crews to ensure they could perform their missions. He never said what they did, except to say they would not be allowed to do the tests today. That was 30 years ago.

    • @dominicseanmccann6300
      @dominicseanmccann6300 2 місяці тому

      Read the book years back. The film, which I saw again recently is only slightly less frightening than the Wargame.

  • @GrouseAttack
    @GrouseAttack 9 місяців тому +7

    “Fallout is a ground problem.” Well said statement and hilarious. And true! This is awesome.

    • @iitzfizz
      @iitzfizz 8 місяців тому +1

      I thought the same lol....Sucks to be those guys, am I right 😅

  • @mpeg2tom
    @mpeg2tom 11 місяців тому +20

    21:40 There won't be a post-strike base to come back to after the nuclear war. (DGZ=Desired Ground Zero)

    • @drawingboard82
      @drawingboard82 11 місяців тому +8

      In 1960 there probably would have been. Soviet capability was orders of magnitude lower than sac at the time. The widespread introduction of ICBMs in the mid 60s changed this.

  • @AluminumOxide
    @AluminumOxide 11 місяців тому +18

    For anyone wondering, this video was made sometime in 1960.

    • @rtqii
      @rtqii 6 місяців тому

      Right after the Soviets tested Tsar Bomba, and before the Cuban Missile Crisis.

  • @JonathanEzor
    @JonathanEzor 11 місяців тому +10

    "By Dawn's Early Light" depicted this situation in detail.

  • @Crabby303
    @Crabby303 11 місяців тому +45

    My missus used to always complain of the thermal and gust effects when I came home after a night out. Fallout usually followed the next day.

    • @edwalker2169
      @edwalker2169 9 місяців тому

      After a kebab and a guinness, the blast effects are quite intense

    • @Crabby303
      @Crabby303 8 місяців тому

      Probably the most high-yield design known to science. @@edwalker2169

    • @pennise
      @pennise 8 місяців тому

      However, the nuclear pile that you left in your shorts was probably the worst part.

  • @vernonbrechin4207
    @vernonbrechin4207 11 місяців тому +24

    Thanks for sharing this intendedly reassuring training video. Soon after the release of this film the situation altered drastically with the creation of ICBM delivery systems on both sides. The air delivery part of the 'Triad' system continues to operate.

    • @-danR
      @-danR 8 місяців тому

      The first US ICBMs were deployed a year before this (1960) training film. Likewise the Soviet R-7, which had already been extensively tested since 1957.

    • @vernonbrechin4207
      @vernonbrechin4207 8 місяців тому

      @@-danR - Thank you for the clarification. Many of these deployed systems had great inertia, partly because so much had been spent on them. I worked in the SAGE radar surveillance system. From the time I was deployed, in 1963, until the system was retired, around 1980, I was well aware that it had become obsolete years before I entered the system.

  • @caryeckland3038
    @caryeckland3038 11 місяців тому +30

    Great film! Stanley Kubrick must of seen this. There are so many shot to similar to the Dr. Strangelove film shots. It's great to see how accurate Kubrick was.

    • @johnned4848
      @johnned4848 11 місяців тому +12

      Not sure Kubrick saw this film. He was denied USAF/SAC cooperation for filming and had to rely on publicly available information. I think the best he got was publicity brochures from Boeing. But he obviously was able to get film of low level flights which eerily mirror this film

    • @horstmuller7512
      @horstmuller7512 11 місяців тому +5

      Kubrick's best film was the moon landing, which was shot entirely in studio.
      In a small cut, Barbara Eden and Larry Hagman could be seen during a break in the filming of "I Dream of Jeannie".

    • @imresomodi4961
      @imresomodi4961 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@horstmuller7512 You must have watched Opération lune. (and got it wrong xd)

    • @jimsworthow531
      @jimsworthow531 11 місяців тому +3

      @@horstmuller7512 Kubrick did well on that piece of filming; he even told us about it in 'the Shining' with the little boy wearing the Apollo sweater.

    • @reallyhappenings5597
      @reallyhappenings5597 11 місяців тому +4

      Never presume to fully understand Kubrick.

  • @tylernewton7217
    @tylernewton7217 11 місяців тому +18

    This was far better than I anticipated. Chilling that they went through with a hypothetical mission at the end.

  • @Tishers
    @Tishers 7 місяців тому +2

    I think that most of the crew would be busy for those few seconds after detonation, resetting circuit breakers that popped open. As well designed and constructed as these aircraft systems were there would certainly be some devices/ instruments that would not escape unscathed. Every time a nuke tipped SAM went off within thirty or forty miles of where you were flying something else would trip out and a breaker would open.
    You could imagine that if you survived getting your way to target, kept at least far enough away from SAM batteries or interceptors and the weapons effects of other aircraft or ICBM or SLBM's you might end up sucking up a bunch of RAD's and making it to some alternative base (possibly even a civilian airfield in a distant country). Your plane would not be ready to take off on another mission without a bunch of work to repair anything that has been damaged or degraded.
    If your eventual landing spot was not targeted in a counterforce strike or spasm you would probably be retired from flight service due to being sick for the next few months. That is, unless you sucked up enough RAD's that it was terminal in the short-term or long-term.
    Even if you landed in a 'friendly' or allied country they are going to be less than happy for you to show up. People like to blame someone and an aircrew, sub crew or just about anyone in a position of military (or civil) authority is going to be a pariah.

  • @rtqii
    @rtqii 6 місяців тому +4

    The good old days. In the early 60s, SAC had an inventory of about 500 B41s and about 1,500 AGM-28 Hound Dogs. A portion of the inventory, about 300-400 mt, was kept in the air 24/7. They flew missions right along the Soviet border, supported by a fleet of KC-135 tankers. There were bomb and missile loaded B-52's taking off, as a previous flight came in and landed. A typical flight would be one B-52 armed with a pair of B41s, and two bombers with a Hound Dog mounted on a pylon under each wing. On a coded radio command two B-52s would fly ahead of the plane carrying drop bombs, and they would use the AGM-28's to blast a path through Soviet missile defenses so the B41 armed planes could fly to their targets unmolested.

    • @equilibriumaudio
      @equilibriumaudio Місяць тому

      It's disturbing that you think this qualifies as "good" old days....

    • @tomdecuca3627
      @tomdecuca3627 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@equilibriumaudioWe didn't think so at the time. Only now because nothing happened! I think every kid went to bed praying they didn't nuked in the middle of the night.

  • @TheOtherDerek
    @TheOtherDerek 11 місяців тому +10

    How to protect yourself from the bomb you dropped... an interesting concept.

  • @JamieSmith-fz2mz
    @JamieSmith-fz2mz 11 місяців тому +8

    Many of the films I watched in training in 1978-79 were from this era. I was stationed at Kirtland/Sandia/Manzano and always blown away by the expense of - and extent of - testing and preparedness. And even today as I see more films like this, I realize that I was only seeing a small fraction of it.

    • @buckhorncortez
      @buckhorncortez 10 місяців тому

      Did you see me waving at you when I was dropping things off at the SNL warehouse...?

    • @JamieSmith-fz2mz
      @JamieSmith-fz2mz 10 місяців тому

      Yes, but getting out of my truck to check your credentials was WAY too much effort. @@buckhorncortez

  • @stuartromig9576
    @stuartromig9576 11 місяців тому +30

    I used to hate these films during 8th grade History class...now I can't get enough of them! ❤😂❤

    • @KevinBalch-dt8ot
      @KevinBalch-dt8ot 11 місяців тому +4

      It was funny when the film slipped off the tracks and the voices would stutter. Once, our teacher fell asleep, the takeup reel seized and the film spiraled onto the floor. The bell rang, the teacher woke up and the class was leaving the room as he discovered the film on the floor!

    • @suspiciousstew1169
      @suspiciousstew1169 11 місяців тому +2

      if i had this shit playing when i went to 8th grade i would've enjoyed it way more 😭 as if my past middle school experiences weren't bad enough

  • @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars
    @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 11 місяців тому +24

    Best thing about these films is seeing the aircraft. Personal favourite is what you American types call the B 57. Which is actually a license built copy of our Canberra! Amazing aircraft that really doesn't get the love it deserves.

    • @paulpark1170
      @paulpark1170 11 місяців тому +2

      Like the IBM super computers

    • @dotarsojat7725
      @dotarsojat7725 11 місяців тому +5

      NASA is STILL flying their B-57/Canberras.

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 10 місяців тому

      @@dotarsojat7725pretty sure limeys are doing same thing.
      They love legacy aircraft

    • @blackhatfreak
      @blackhatfreak 10 місяців тому

      Correct and because it's American made it's superior.

    • @ericwithers6552
      @ericwithers6552 9 місяців тому

      ​@@paulpark1170which is now owned by a Chinese company.

  • @ftm1981
    @ftm1981 10 місяців тому +3

    To complete the video, you can find the declassified SAC DGZ List for 1959 on web. East Berlin and Warsaw was included in "Systematic Destruction" priorities.

    • @LOLHAMMER45678
      @LOLHAMMER45678 9 місяців тому +1

      After 57 or so we were in the business of finding targets for warheads we'd built - every target we'd want to hit already had a warhead assigned, but we were still building warheads, so...

  • @johnwilliams3075
    @johnwilliams3075 11 місяців тому +19

    This is both fascinating and horrifying, all at once.

  • @imresomodi4961
    @imresomodi4961 11 місяців тому +33

    The watermark is awful but the quality is nice compared to the archiveorg version. Maybe you can use a less distracting watermark in the future...

    • @edwardwaller1442
      @edwardwaller1442 11 місяців тому +9

      Agreed - that watermark is obnoxious and takes away greatly from the video

    • @weir-t7y
      @weir-t7y 11 місяців тому +15

      Pretty ridiculous when the shit is open license, too. Gimme a break

  • @recnepsgnitnarb6530
    @recnepsgnitnarb6530 11 місяців тому +9

    "Goldie, di you say Wing Attack Plan R?!"

  • @RobertCraft-re5sf
    @RobertCraft-re5sf 11 місяців тому +9

    17:37 I love the air glow on that one. crazy

    • @DrDeuteron
      @DrDeuteron 11 місяців тому +2

      that is a lot of radiation

    • @Dobie_ByTor
      @Dobie_ByTor 11 місяців тому +3

      I was wondering if that blue glow was visible radiation or a video artifact. It is pretty creepy to think that is a floating Chernobyl

    • @jetty92487
      @jetty92487 10 місяців тому

      @@Dobie_ByTor It's ionizing radiation from the blast interacting with the gases in the atmosphere. Similar to what causes the Auroras and St. Elmo's fire. There are only a couple test videos where it's visible.

  • @sjp35productions6
    @sjp35productions6 11 місяців тому +22

    Official SAC motto: Peace is our profession.
    Unofficial addendum: War is just a hobby.
    I left the Air Force when they combined SAC and TAC to make ACC or, Air Combat Command. There was a grace period before we had to switch our command patches to ACC. I held out since my separation date came before I would have had to make the change.

    • @tankman7711
      @tankman7711 11 місяців тому +3

      SAC Will Be Back!
      I recall that period....wore my SAC shield last week in uniform, no one said a negative word.

    • @marekryszard
      @marekryszard 10 місяців тому +2

      @williamforbes: I served in the US Army, 1986-1992. I saw the change from the old WWII style tin pot helmets to the Kevlar, WWII-looking helmets. Also the replacement for the ubiquitous Army Jeep to the HMMWV (HumVee) happened while I was at Fort Hood, Texas. Second Armored Division, "Hell on Wheels"

  • @mikefm4
    @mikefm4 11 місяців тому +13

    History preserved. This is why I love UA-cam.
    Amazing to consider fleets of b52 crew constantly in training to end the earth.

  • @nigelconnor6960
    @nigelconnor6960 9 місяців тому

    Great, and thanks, your keeping history alive, loved the background music, half expected John Wayne to be sitting in the cockpit!!!! 🤠

  • @vmhanlon
    @vmhanlon 11 місяців тому +13

    What is up with the gigantic water mark? I see it on some but not all the videos on this channel and it's really annoying. Seems completely unnecessary but at the very least could be much much smaller and tucked into a corner.

    • @realSethMeyers
      @realSethMeyers 11 місяців тому

      Probably trying to prevent content theft

    • @juhokuusisto9339
      @juhokuusisto9339 10 місяців тому +2

      @@realSethMeyers It's not this channels copyright. He can't claim it.

  • @nigelconnor6960
    @nigelconnor6960 9 місяців тому +2

    ....also, great shots of 1950's aircraft like that silver and yellow painted B17.

  • @jamesharrison2570
    @jamesharrison2570 10 місяців тому +8

    I spent over 7 years underground in a Titan II silo. Our one warhead had more power than all the bombs ever used

    • @marekryszard
      @marekryszard 10 місяців тому +2

      @jamesharrison: SEVEN years underground ?!? What a way to make a buck !! Tell us more about your experience. I'm fascinated by those missile silos . . .

    • @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL
      @AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL 9 місяців тому

      Did you ever run drills?

    • @LOLHAMMER45678
      @LOLHAMMER45678 9 місяців тому

      Always struck me as a boring job, honestly

    • @mbrenner3629
      @mbrenner3629 8 місяців тому

      BOOM!

  • @Springbok295
    @Springbok295 11 місяців тому +4

    01:38 and 03:27 you see various targets marked. Look at the radius of effects at 03:27. I'm assuming the power for each bomb is anywhere from 1-10 megatons.

    • @greacen
      @greacen 11 місяців тому +2

      I was drawn to those maps too. The one at 33:42 looks like they were flying by Yaktusk

    • @capn_shawn
      @capn_shawn 10 місяців тому +1

      They didn’t fly all the way there to drop a small tactical package

  • @ianbeedles1329
    @ianbeedles1329 10 місяців тому +6

    Watching this I keep expecting Peter Sellers, George C Scott or Slim Pickens to make an appearance 😜

  • @mamarussellthepie3995
    @mamarussellthepie3995 11 місяців тому +13

    *Annoyingly obvious watermark intensifies*

  • @BrianDurham
    @BrianDurham 11 місяців тому +7

    Major Kong - "Ain't nobody got the go-code yet."

  • @danlastname407
    @danlastname407 11 місяців тому +3

    I love that the first three words uttered in the narration are, "Let's assume..."

  • @casperorillian7393
    @casperorillian7393 11 місяців тому +7

    Well I wasnt feeling depressed enough today. Still interesting though.

  • @edwardspencer3906
    @edwardspencer3906 8 місяців тому

    As a 5th Grader in central Florida in 1967, my class got a tour of the SAC Base in Pine Castle..we got to stick our heads inside the crew compartment and what really stuck out was the smell of Sweat! This B 52 was not operational at the time of our visit..I remember the feeling of Safety ALL of us kids felt because of that Base.

  • @Anonomush_oranges
    @Anonomush_oranges 11 місяців тому +18

    Dr. Strangelove in action. Peace is our Profession. Where's Major Kong?

    • @wes11bravo
      @wes11bravo 11 місяців тому +5

      "Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff!"

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 11 місяців тому +5

      @@wes11bravo "Now I've been to one world's fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, and that's the stupidest dang thing I've ever heard over a set of earphones!"

    • @wes11bravo
      @wes11bravo 11 місяців тому +4

      @@RCAvhstape - "Well, boys, we got three engines out, we got more holes in us than a horse trader's mule, the radio is gone and we're leaking fuel and if we was flying any lower why we'd need sleigh bells on this thing..." haha

  • @JimHamiltonIII
    @JimHamiltonIII 11 місяців тому +26

    so much madness discussed so calmly

    • @jetty92487
      @jetty92487 10 місяців тому +1

      Everything is phrased so clinically as if they're not talking about the end of the world. Makes you wonder, Hollywood likes to portray these scenarios and the crews as very quick to question their orders or developing second thoughts enroute. I would venture to guess that had this ever come to pass, essentially all of the crews would have performed their assigned tasks without question. In times of crisis, as humans, we tend to fall back on what we know, in this case our training. I think that's why these videos are presented the way they are, in large part to not ingender the kind of fear or doubt that could lead a crew to deviate from their assignment.

    • @JimHamiltonIII
      @JimHamiltonIII 10 місяців тому

      @@jetty92487 What I guess is commanders, and therefore crews, won't launch, even in the face of an apparent strike. Despite the constant conditioning (and maybe indoctrination) of affected personnel, they won't subscribe to MAD's doctrinal edicts.
      I've read after-actions of serious wargaming (as opposed to merely looking at numbers and targets), and leaders (roleplaying in the game) have refrained from launching, lest they actively contribute to dooming humanity through the retribution of MAD, or merely tit-for-tat.
      Finally, for whatever country that launched, it would be "over" for them. Not every country on the planet would be annihilated from just one nation launching, making the aggressor nation a complete pariah. Probably some leaders and crews of the aggressor nation wouldn't launch. The aggressor nation's government probably would not survive, either through coup or arrest or similar of responsible government officials.
      The end result would be that humanity would "make it," but only because select people disobeyed orders, not because they followed them.
      Still, while there are nuclear weapons anywhere, all of humanity is held hostage by leaders who insist on possessing them.

    • @jtfoog5220
      @jtfoog5220 10 місяців тому +2

      @@jetty92487to a lesser extent, I think your insight has been proven time and time again, exemplified by the bomber crews repeatedly and methodically incinerating large populated areas hundreds of times throughout the Second World War.

  • @whitfan27
    @whitfan27 10 місяців тому +1

    LOL the image with the bomb targets on it at 3:24 is around the Sea of Azov (with our perspective looking South). Doesnt look like Rostov was directly targeted.

  • @telekommandant
    @telekommandant 10 місяців тому +4

    29:20 "Where the hell is Major Kong?"

  • @PolluxPavonis
    @PolluxPavonis 11 місяців тому +2

    Crazy times xD Amazing footage, this is an historical clip, thank you for sharing it.

    • @MrMaxyield
      @MrMaxyield 11 місяців тому

      I'd argue those times were much more timid than the times of today... back then, there were only 2 genders...

  • @clyde9803
    @clyde9803 11 місяців тому +4

    What test is 17:35? The bluish halo is fantastic, if it's not some artifact of the film.

    • @PolluxPavonis
      @PolluxPavonis 11 місяців тому

      Search for "What is this glow of a nuclear mushroom cloud" here on youtube, theres a video of that.
      The test belongs to Operation Plumbbob, this shot was Galileo, 11 kt bomb 🕵

    • @jetty92487
      @jetty92487 10 місяців тому

      The blue is ionizing radiation interacting with the gases in the atmosphere. It's similar to what causes the Aurora or St. Elmo's fire. There is also some videos of tests actually causing lightning. I believe those are from Ivy, Castle and Redwing.

    • @jtfoog5220
      @jtfoog5220 10 місяців тому

      Looks like one of the grable tests, not sure which, and yes that’s Cherenkov glow

    • @jeremiahgrogan5963
      @jeremiahgrogan5963 10 місяців тому

      It's wild. That's a ton of radiation!

  • @larry648
    @larry648 11 місяців тому +2

    The restricted area badges were the same until the end of SAC in 1992.

  • @allys537
    @allys537 11 місяців тому +3

    "Well we's flyin' any lower we'd need sleigh bells on this thing"!

  • @camojoe83
    @camojoe83 11 місяців тому +27

    My grandpa was an aircraft mechanic during the "nukes on everything all the time" SAC era. He died of cancer, like all his other guys he served with doing the same thing.
    The air crews were the best protected of all the people, with least exposure.

    • @larry648
      @larry648 11 місяців тому +3

      I never even saw a radiation badge in SAC. 12 warheads a bird, 6 birds on alert, weapons for 20 birds plus in storage for generation, and the Genies on the F106’s.

    • @jaffacalling53
      @jaffacalling53 11 місяців тому +1

      Unless tritium was leaking out in massive quantities, I don't see how he could have been exposed to radiation from being around bombs.

    • @camojoe83
      @camojoe83 11 місяців тому +6

      @@jaffacalling53 you act like it had to be a single incident, and things were the same then as they are now. 20 years of exposure to warm ordnance and the dust and everything else around that stuff and you're hit. You were then, anyway. He retired in 69.

    • @jeremiahgrogan5963
      @jeremiahgrogan5963 10 місяців тому +1

      As did mine. Rest easy fellas.

    • @LOLHAMMER45678
      @LOLHAMMER45678 9 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@larry648 when men were men and when the cigarettes were safe because they were filtered🎉

  • @joni3503
    @joni3503 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for this interesting material, in first class quality

  • @johnmorykwas2343
    @johnmorykwas2343 11 місяців тому +3

    Detonation and shock arrival time was the same for our lay down releases. Long live SAC!

    • @eddievhfan1984
      @eddievhfan1984 11 місяців тому

      As in, for example, 30s from release to contact/detonation + 30 seconds to shock arrival after detonating? Makes sense, since those low-level runs would be as close to Vmo/Mmo as you could get.

  • @steverobinson5109
    @steverobinson5109 11 місяців тому +3

    Well. Huh. I've doublechecked and I did not have "traumatically relive the recurrent nightmares that haunted your childhood and young adulthood" on my "to-do" list. And yet, here I am, clenched up like I just heard the dissonant two-tone of the old EBS.

  • @DrDeuteron
    @DrDeuteron 11 місяців тому +8

    gammas are instant, as in t=0. Neutrons have some lag, 6 micro seconds per 1000 feet. Beta's no, alpha's no way.

    • @yxyk-fr
      @yxyk-fr 8 місяців тому

      and X rays ?...

  • @davidwright8432
    @davidwright8432 9 місяців тому

    Love the idea of a post-mission return field. With a huge amount of luck, you might manage to get back - to where it used to be.

  • @proteusnz99
    @proteusnz99 11 місяців тому +7

    Guessing this about 1959 it was interesting to see the user interface to the “IBM computer”, punch cards and toggling the front panel switches. Giving that the commentary is about WW3, are the film makers seriously contemplating post-mission debriefs?
    I was reminded of a bomb threat reporting card my workplace had. I was struck with two thoughts on reading this card: 1- If someone was serious about trying to blow us up were they likely to stay on the phone answering the long list of questions (name, address, type of bomb, where is it, type of fuse, etc.) as I worked though them. 2- If I received such a call the person was making a big assumption that I’d stay on the phone to ask the questions.

    • @eddievhfan1984
      @eddievhfan1984 11 місяців тому +5

      The assumption was prior to both sides fielding first-strike/counterforce-credible ICBMs like Minuteman and SLBMs, the most comprehensive nuclear strikes would be performed using bombers, and not every bomber would successfully reach their targets. ICBM attacks in 1960 were not super-accurate and would be more effective against large "soft" targets like cities, harbors, air bases, and the like; they could still have miss distances of a mile or two, hence their need for multi-megaton warheads to offset that.
      Short version is that it was assumed that a nuclear exchange like this wouldn't be cripplingly destructive in the first 30 minutes after either side launched, so there would be follow-up strikes afterwards to suppress the other side's war-making ability. Tech developments since then have made it more of a one-and-done scenario, with ICBMs and SLBMs alike able to make pinpoint strikes that are practically beyond interception.

    • @proteusnz99
      @proteusnz99 11 місяців тому +2

      @@eddievhfan1984 Yes, it there was an impressive effort to organise what everyone agreed must never happen. The acronym MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) was so apposite, that if deterrence failed to prevent use of nuclear weapons then they’d be used.
      My background is in IT and a lot of what I worked with had it’s origins in Cold War weaponry, the integrated circuits/silicon chip (ICBM guidance packages), real-time interactive computer systems (The ADC Whirlwind and SAGE systems), the Internet growing out of ARPANet. Mass market air travel became reality with the Boeing 747, the loser in the C-X competition. The GPS that helps you navigate was developed for military purposes, the civilian application is just a happy bonus.

  • @Сергей-г2т3з
    @Сергей-г2т3з 10 місяців тому +3

    Огромное спасибо за такие древние и качественные видео, это теперь наша общая история! В СССР к великому сожалению почти всегда экономили на киноплёнку, всё вкладывали непосредственно в процесс разработки оружия и возможно так и надо было. Надеюсь ядерная война случится в следующем столетии или позже.

    • @sapereaude6274
      @sapereaude6274 10 місяців тому +1

      Thank you Russkie. I hope America and Russia can be pals soon. Russians are lovely people.

  • @jeremiahgrogan5963
    @jeremiahgrogan5963 10 місяців тому +1

    The eye patches got me. Fail safe to keep at least one eye in case of a unexpected burst.

  • @badnewswade
    @badnewswade 10 місяців тому +2

    Safety is important because you wouldn't want to have an accident on your way back from dropping the Bomb!

  • @Mark_Ocain
    @Mark_Ocain 11 місяців тому +6

    I didn't quite catch what brand of computer they were using LOL

    • @LOLHAMMER45678
      @LOLHAMMER45678 9 місяців тому

      In fairness, there wasn't much choice in 1959. Either IBM or something bespoke. CDC didn't even exist until a year before this

    • @yxyk-fr
      @yxyk-fr 8 місяців тому

      @@LOLHAMMER45678
      CDC : 1957, starting quite fast from previous projects and experiences at Rand/Sperry/Univac
      Burrough was starting, DEC was getting started, HP wouldn't even considering computing yet, some smaller companies existed though to cover the military market, RCA maybe. And Bell and General Electric...

  • @CONELRAD6401240
    @CONELRAD6401240 9 місяців тому

    A government film never looked so good. Pristine. Great work, AtomCentral!

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL 11 місяців тому +5

    Fascinating....

  • @Greeniykyk
    @Greeniykyk 11 місяців тому +21

    If they made it back to friendly territory, the bases would likely be gone, along with family, the ability to grow food, medical care, organized government, commerce etc. I suspect these films were made to keep air crews convinced this was "just a mission".

    • @gherkinisgreat
      @gherkinisgreat 11 місяців тому +2

      No, they knew that military bases like airfields would be the primary target in the event of war. From what I've heard British bomber crews where told to bailout or land in the USSR and settle into local communities

    • @weir-t7y
      @weir-t7y 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@gherkinisgreatthat would be the premise of a great movie. You discover a major figure in your community your country with a nuke

    • @eddievhfan1984
      @eddievhfan1984 11 місяців тому +2

      Before sub-launched ballistic missiles and high-accuracy ICBMs like Minuteman came around, a comprehensive destructive strike was not guaranteed; since most of the attacking would be done by bombers, there would be more of a chance to perform interceptions and blunt the impact. The effect on civilian life would indeed be devastating, especially in the long-term, but in the short-term, these wouldn't automatically be one-way attacks.

    • @juhokuusisto9339
      @juhokuusisto9339 10 місяців тому +1

      @@gherkinisgreat Like the angry mob wouldn't take them out behind the sauna for bombing their homeland. Many bomber crews had it in the WW2, when bailing out over enemy territory.

  • @mrlodwick
    @mrlodwick 9 місяців тому

    And to Think James Stuart was involved in this is awesome.

  • @davidwilkins7750
    @davidwilkins7750 11 місяців тому +4

    Receiving the go code by radio instead of the CRM 114?

    • @yxyk-fr
      @yxyk-fr 8 місяців тому

      lazy production...

  • @nicku1
    @nicku1 9 місяців тому +2

    The Bomb Run from the movie Dr. Strangelove would be better suited as background music.

  • @whos1st
    @whos1st 11 місяців тому +3

    Ray Walston on VO?

  • @terrysweeting
    @terrysweeting 11 місяців тому +6

    what cammera did they use.... build stuff out of that as they dont fall apart

    • @mundanestuff
      @mundanestuff 11 місяців тому +7

      they protected the cameras with concrete and lead, and pointed the camera at steel plates with a mirror finish on them. So the camera was in a bunker, pointed at a mirror. I believe one or two videos ago on this same channel shows this process.

    • @davidk2628
      @davidk2628 11 місяців тому

      ​@@mundanestuffvery neat

  • @LinHolcomb
    @LinHolcomb 9 місяців тому +2

    Clearly they were worried that the crews would not deliver their bombs out of fear it was a one way mission.

  • @ArmpitStudios
    @ArmpitStudios 9 місяців тому +2

    Love the illustrated animations starting at 4:21. People have no idea how much work goes into planning these missions, much less all the work that went into planning and creating this very effective film.

  • @gcrauwels941
    @gcrauwels941 11 місяців тому +1

    At 26:03, was the guy in the right seat wearing the eye patch over his left eye a deterrent in case of a flash? I can't imagine he was flying a mission like this any other way. edit: Has to be, since the right seat guy had one as well.

  • @dasbrootal420
    @dasbrootal420 9 місяців тому

    Man they put a lot into training videos back in the day.

  • @tomdecuca3627
    @tomdecuca3627 10 місяців тому +1

    Can you picture being a pilot back then knowing you might run one or more of these missions? Talk about pressure!!

  • @creator4413
    @creator4413 11 місяців тому +5

    Imagine being so calm and collected about killing like millions of people in a second

  • @TerryCheever
    @TerryCheever 11 місяців тому +4

    The threat, the training, and the possibility hasn't gone away. Fly, Fight, Win.

  • @Dobie_ByTor
    @Dobie_ByTor 11 місяців тому +6

    In reality, the crew and craft would have to land in the arctic circle to have a chance of survival of the retaliatory strikes.

    • @yxyk-fr
      @yxyk-fr 8 місяців тому +1

      can a B52 land on snow or an ice shelf ?...

    • @Dobie_ByTor
      @Dobie_ByTor 8 місяців тому +1

      @@yxyk-fr if it has to. Odds are better than flying into a crater or a 7 million degree fireball of incandescent atmospheric plasma.

  • @disorderlymovement
    @disorderlymovement 9 місяців тому

    I realize a lot has changed since this film was made. Yet, I am quite certain the same IBM computers are still being used currently to plan sorties. IRS also utilizes extra bandwidth from these machines to create useless letters, too.

  • @handen
    @handen 11 місяців тому +2

    7:41 what planes are those? I recognize a B52, some F86s, and that looks like a B1 in the back, but they weren't around in 1960.

    • @eddievhfan1984
      @eddievhfan1984 11 місяців тому +2

      The two-engine models are the Douglas B-66 Destroyer, a light bomber/photo-reconnaissance aircraft that was mainly used at forward bases in Europe. The T-tail aircraft at the bottom/back is the F-101 Voodoo interceptor.

    • @jetty92487
      @jetty92487 10 місяців тому

      There were a ton of different aircraft throughout this film. As the other commenter said, in the formation flight you've got the B66, B47, B52 and F101. You've also got B36, F80s, T33s, P47s, F86s, B17s, B29/B50s, B57s damn near everything in the USAF fleet circa the late 50s.

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 11 днів тому

    Thanks for this ✈️👍

  • @RobertCraft-re5sf
    @RobertCraft-re5sf 11 місяців тому +3

    thanks for posting another great film!

  • @joshuabessire9169
    @joshuabessire9169 11 місяців тому +2

    Pilot:"I'm not immune to radiation!"
    Nuclear Scientist:"Are you crazy? The fireball will probably kill ya."
    Pilot:"Good point!" Jumps into Russia.

  • @DrTWG
    @DrTWG 11 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for sharing but why the ridiculously big logo ?

  • @QbutNotTheQ
    @QbutNotTheQ 11 місяців тому +4

    “SAC delivery missions.” 😂 euphemism of the year. Synonym: nuclear apocalypse.

  • @Ragefps
    @Ragefps 11 місяців тому +2

    Ok weird question but in one of these films a "Super Effects Handbook" (or the like) is referenced. Does anyone know if an online copy exists? I think it was circa operation castle/redwing. Long shot I know but I cannot find any reference online and I doubt it would still be classified.

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm 9 місяців тому

    Wow great quality, these films are usually so degraded from time and being constantly duplicated. The only other time I've seen these old technical films so clear in in Peter Kuran's, Trinity and Beyond.

  • @rtqii
    @rtqii 6 місяців тому

    30:03 B41 drop bomb (this is obviously a training dummy). This design was first tested with shot Zuni during Operation Redwing, and a follow up test on shot Tewa in the same operation. This is one of the first dry fuel thermonuclear weapons. A yield of 25 mt, it was the most powerful bomb ever deployed by the United States.

    • @nukerrz
      @nukerrz 4 місяці тому

      That does not look like a b41, it looks more like a painted mk 17 or mk 15

  • @Cadcare
    @Cadcare 6 місяців тому

    What's the third aircraft (far right) with the twin boom? (8:09). I'm thinking the two to the left are B-29.

  • @jamesroberts2115
    @jamesroberts2115 9 місяців тому

    B-52D. Saw 100's of them during my 4 years in SAC.

  • @Thunder_6278
    @Thunder_6278 11 місяців тому +14

    The good ol' days. The B-52 is still with us. Where's Major Kong?

    • @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co
      @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co 11 місяців тому +5

      The B-52 is always with us.

    • @unwantedspirt
      @unwantedspirt 11 місяців тому +1

      do you think they will ever get rid of the buff

    • @BTenold
      @BTenold 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@unwantedspirtI worked on them in the USAF and theyre funded and re engining them for operations well into 2040.

    • @jefflebowski918
      @jefflebowski918 11 місяців тому +2

      Back when Boeing had quality control and their aircraft doors didn't fall off mid-flight.

    • @GrantJohnston-dr9rt
      @GrantJohnston-dr9rt 11 місяців тому

      Yes

  • @iainstevenson6658
    @iainstevenson6658 11 місяців тому +2

    How to personally burn millions of people alive, and then return home to find your own family in ashes. Insane. The most chillling thing is the accompanying music

  • @BobCat-n7p
    @BobCat-n7p 9 місяців тому +1

    Even the actors in the B-52 about to drop the bomb portray their own fear about it

  • @BELCAN57
    @BELCAN57 11 місяців тому +5

    And just what will this crew return to?

    • @yxyk-fr
      @yxyk-fr 8 місяців тому +1

      nightmares.

  • @juanetobascofish3999
    @juanetobascofish3999 10 місяців тому +1

    Did I miss something? Isn't an electromagnetic pulse a fourth category of blast effects? The effects of EMP damage to aircraft electronics and subsequent mitigation was studied here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATLAS-I

    • @jetty92487
      @jetty92487 10 місяців тому +1

      EMP would likely have knocked out radios and other electronics if not shielded, but the flight instruments at this time were largely still mechanical, so you'd have had attitude, altimeter, airspeed and compass. Everything you need to safely keep the plane in the air.

  • @Okie-00-Spool
    @Okie-00-Spool 11 місяців тому +2

    Goldy, did you say Wing Attack Plan R??