Never forget, around 2011 when everybody was saying Glocks were garbage guns and not very accurate, and Bob Vogel shows up to IPSC World Shoot with a stock Gen 3 Glock 17 shooting Production division- and absolutely takes everyone to school! 💪⚡🏆
It's mostly stock...except it has a different trigger bar, connector, springs and grip tape. That is pretty pretty mild compared to some guns but it's not nothing. It is a shoe and bar that is designed to reduce pre-travel and overtravel. I think a better way to describe it is it really doesn't take much to turn a stock Glock into something optimized for performance and is still reliable and safe.
Joel was kind enough to answer some questions in an older post, Swapped the tti striker spring with the apex setup and it’s just great. I was hesitant so picked up a stock striker assembly from the pro shop to keep in my bag. Haven’t had to use it, pops all the ammo I’ve run through Don’t think I could go back to anything else after
I combined a 4.5# striker spring with an Apex trigger and it's almost too light of a pull for me. I'm thinking 5# might be good, but then factory is 5.5# anyway, I believe.
I trim the trigger safety to be flush when pressed to reduce that Glock bite. That’s about it for the mods to my edc. Ohh and hockey tape on the grip. I’m a simple man
Do you just use TTI striker spring or the whole grand master kit? If kit, duty or competition. Yes, people like me who don't shoot we well as you two obsess over equipment too much. I still want to know...
Of all the things to change on a glock, I wouldn't touch the striker spring for a lighter trigger pull when that means more light strikes. While keeping an oem striker spring in, the apex trigger with an oem minus connector is already 4.5-4lb depending on where you pull that trigger .
While you're correct about the carrying method and intended use, lighter springs can wear out faster. A 4.5-pound striker spring is the minimum recommended for safety and reliable performance. The shooter's familiarity with their ammunition and spring setup is crucial. While I don't recommend lighter springs for civilians or law enforcement in high-stress situations, they can be suitable for competition, training, or casual range use. If a light strike occurs, simply cycle the action. The shooter mentioned he replaced the striker Spring after 30,000 rounds. If it were a significant issue, they wouldn't be using it.
It is easier to find with whatever handgun you train with. You train the grip, draw from the holster & presentation and you look at the target and it has to come there. No fishing around. If that is done you train the same in all sorts of awkward positions, then while moving.
@@TriggerTalesTV Sorry...I was being sarcastic. I'm well aware, but Ben absolutely skewered someone who misprased a sensible question for the sole purpose of being a jerk As an aside, Ben's buddy Joel used the exact same phrase Ben whined about ("find the dot") but as expected didn't have the integrity to admit he was wrong to call the commenter {"inexperienced and a bad shooter") based solely on the misuse of a single work. Ben's obviously a great shooter, but he's also a hypocritical gasbag and lacks the integrity to admit to making a mistake.
Never forget, around 2011 when everybody was saying Glocks were garbage guns and not very accurate, and Bob Vogel shows up to IPSC World Shoot with a stock Gen 3 Glock 17 shooting Production division- and absolutely takes everyone to school! 💪⚡🏆
Bob Vogel is the GOAT
Yep. That absolutely happened. Check out his double speed, double distance LE qual with G35 .40.
Watching him on video is amazing. Seeing him run drills while standing next to him and then having to follow him, is humbling to say the least.
It's mostly stock...except it has a different trigger bar, connector, springs and grip tape. That is pretty pretty mild compared to some guns but it's not nothing. It is a shoe and bar that is designed to reduce pre-travel and overtravel. I think a better way to describe it is it really doesn't take much to turn a stock Glock into something optimized for performance and is still reliable and safe.
Joel was kind enough to answer some questions in an older post,
Swapped the tti striker spring with the apex setup and it’s just great.
I was hesitant so picked up a stock striker assembly from the pro shop to keep in my bag. Haven’t had to use it,
pops all the ammo I’ve run through
Don’t think I could go back to anything else after
I just took My G17 gen 5 that is stock except for a connector and it was refreshing how well I shoot it, it hard to beat.
We’ve seen this already, we want to see his g47
His 47 was posted over on his UA-cam channel, maybe three or four weeks ago
Happily liked and subscribed. Ben is doing good stuff.
I combined a 4.5# striker spring with an Apex trigger and it's almost too light of a pull for me. I'm thinking 5# might be good, but then factory is 5.5# anyway, I believe.
Just 30,000 rounds, nothing crazy. Lol. That's more than most people will shoot in a lifetime and it was only one of his guns
I trim the trigger safety to be flush when pressed to reduce that Glock bite. That’s about it for the mods to my edc. Ohh and hockey tape on the grip. I’m a simple man
Just to clarify they are talking about the TTI Ultimate spring pack($15) for Glock on the Taran tactical website right ?
YEP
"Because you don't know" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
Are you taking about all 3 springs that come with the TTI Ultimate Spring Pack for Glock or did you just change the striker spring?
Do you just use TTI striker spring or the whole grand master kit? If kit, duty or competition. Yes, people like me
who don't shoot we well as you two obsess over equipment too much. I still want to know...
Just the Spring set up my dude.
I see the shadows there. You going to talk about them?
Sunblock is supposed to be applied all over your exposed skin, not just your forehead, Ben.
Most white guy sunscreen job ever
What basepads? Henning?
What optic plate?
Ben does MOS or C&HP
🇺🇸
What weight is the striker spring in the slick Glock or the one with the Apex trigger?
4.5
Everything is stock, except...said every glock owner.
All Glock owners glocks are not stock.
What about the recoil springs?
OEM
Of all the things to change on a glock, I wouldn't touch the striker spring for a lighter trigger pull when that means more light strikes.
While keeping an oem striker spring in, the apex trigger with an oem minus connector is already 4.5-4lb depending on where you pull that trigger .
While you're correct about the carrying method and intended use, lighter springs can wear out faster. A 4.5-pound striker spring is the minimum recommended for safety and reliable performance.
The shooter's familiarity with their ammunition and spring setup is crucial. While I don't recommend lighter springs for civilians or law enforcement in high-stress situations, they can be suitable for competition, training, or casual range use. If a light strike occurs, simply cycle the action.
The shooter mentioned he replaced the striker Spring after 30,000 rounds. If it were a significant issue, they wouldn't be using it.
Do those guns give Ben "Glock finger"?
Is it easier or harder to FIND the red dot with the Glock?
It’s the same as learning any other gun, Glock has a slightly different grip angle, just put in reps with it like you would with any other gun
You don't find the red dot, the red dot finds you with the Glock
It is easier to find with whatever handgun you train with.
You train the grip, draw from the holster & presentation and you look at the target and it has to come there. No fishing around. If that is done you train the same in all sorts of awkward positions, then while moving.
@@TriggerTalesTV Sorry...I was being sarcastic. I'm well aware, but Ben absolutely skewered someone who misprased a sensible question for the sole purpose of being a jerk As an aside, Ben's buddy Joel used the exact same phrase Ben whined about ("find the dot") but as expected didn't have the integrity to admit he was wrong to call the commenter {"inexperienced and a bad shooter") based solely on the misuse of a single work. Ben's obviously a great shooter, but he's also a hypocritical gasbag and lacks the integrity to admit to making a mistake.
@@MrShortanswer Sorry, I was being sarcastic to Ben, who while being a great shooter is often snarky and always hypocritical.