Anyone: "i walked outside today and it was hot." Bomtempts: "Well look! The sun is a giant ball covered in flames and its only 91 million miles away. We know this. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that when you walk outside you will be in the presence of a giant ball of flames and flames are hot. Im not sure why we dont get this. This shouldnt be a surprise to anyone."
😂 it’s annoying to most people because most people understand the obvious. There really is some that are that dumb and he’s made a living off of informing them
Not putting too much thought into it and I haven't really looked too hard at the article yet but I think my list based mainly on potential that I feel I could bet on would be: 1. Victor Wembanyama (potential to become a version of Kevin Durant who defends like Hakeem Olajuwon) 2. Anthony Edwards (potential to become a SG on the level of Dwayne Wade) 3. Chet Holmgren (potential to become basically a Kevin Garnett who shoots 3s) 4. Paolo Banchero (potential to be a new school Chris Webber) 5. Jalen Williams (already at the level of prime Khris Middleton with Scottie Pippen potential) 6. Franz Wagner (potential to be a slightly lesser version of Kawhi Leonard) 7. Evan Mobley (potential to be a version of Anthony Davis) 8. Alperen Sengun (potential to be a lesser version of Nikola Jokic) 9. Tyrese Haliburton (potential to be a new school version of Steve Nash) 10. Cade Cunningham (potential to be a new school Grant Hill) 11. Tyrese Maxey (already a better Lou Williams with maybe Lillard-esque upside) 12. Scottie Barnes (potential to be a Draymond Green who can actually score) 13. Lamelo Ball (potential to be a new school Penny Hardaway) 14. Brandon Miller (potential to be a lesser version of Kevin Durant who is already on Brandon Ingram level) 15. Darius Garland (potential to be a better offensive but worse defensive version of Chris Paul) 16. Zion Williamson (only this low due to availability and doubt he will reach his new school Charles Barkley potential) 17. Jalen Johnson (potential to be a lesser version of Paul Pierce) 18. Amen Thompson (potential to be a bigger, better version of John Wall) 19. Jalen Suggs (potential to be as good as prime Jrue Holiday) 20. Dereck Lively (potential to be a better Tyson Chandler) 21. Tari Eason (feels like he could end up a mix of OG Anunoby and prime Marcus Morris) 22. Tyler Herro (feels like we already know what he is and that is a kind of CJ Mccollum level player) 23. Jaden Ivey (potential to be a lesser version of Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook) 24. Cam Thomas (potential to be a better Lou Williams) 25. Dyson Daniels (potential to be a better offensive version of Marcus Smart)
Guys been averaging 18 the past 4 years it’s not hate it’s just the truth even being the number one option on his team and he’s still not averaging 25+
@@bryangonzalez6016Guy has been averaging 18 the past 4 yrs? Are you trolling? SB is current averaging 22/9/7 almost a triple double. Missed 11 straight gms due to an elbow in the face by Jokic in a game where he was the best player for 31/2 Qs. Raps is better on both sides of the ball when he is on the floor.He is a 2 way player, versatile ( guard 1-5) with a high bb iq. His playmaking is very good & decision making for 4th yr player is like a 10 yr vet. I don't expect any thing better than ESPN guys & U.S media since they always hate on Raptors and its players. The only correct ranking on thst list is 1 & 2. Scottie is better than players 3-10. I suggest you watch games w/ a view in understanding basket ball fundamentals. Period. Facts!
@@mollyweir9350 Scottie is actually 23/9/8 this year. Dude get's hated on for one simple reason, and one reason only. He is a Toronto Raptor, and because of media rights deals he gets ZERO, and I literally mean ZERO, national exposure in the US. This is why dudes like Siakam, OG, VanVleet and DeRozan received ZERO attention until joining other clubs. When they joined other clubs, there play and measurables were no better than they were with the Raptors, but all the sudden everybody knows these guys and the basketball media praises them. On the flip side of this, we have all know every f'n single young Laker as if they are stars, especially the white ones - even though these dudes are mid in every way.
Yes, cus talking about the lakers brings in view/clicks. Its 2024, how do you not know this? ESPN/DIS are in the business of making money; talking about the grizzlies or magic does not get the same attention/views/clicks as the lakers.
@@EStrader528thank you bruh I hate seeing ppl complaint about the SAME thing every video. But giving them exactly what they want, & that’s why they keep doing it
Yep, Cam is what Jalen Green COULD become. This list is ridiculous. They put way too much emphasis on young age in some cases (Dyson Daniels, Bilal Coulibaly, Green), but then also have Eason who is 24 years old and averaging 11/6/1 over a guy the same age averaging 24/6.5/6. How does that work? Eason's defence is very good, but you can't convince me it's worth 13 pts and 5 assists more than RJ Barrett.... lol.
@@kraw3026 Cam Thomas has a better FG% than Step Curry, Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum, Luka Doncic and Cade Cunningham and James Harden this year lol again, Jalen Green is inefficient, Cam is not
Can they record when windy isn’t all crabby and sleep deprived? Also would it kill you to make it an actual hour so you don’t have to rush all these topics?
Barnes should be higher, but it's seriously embarrassing that RJ Barrett isn't on here. I have a feeling Windbag is a Knicks fan and isn't thrilled that RJ is blowing it up north of the border.
I legitimately don't understand why they keep Bontempts on this podcast (I would like to say that I think he is a great baskeball reporter, but he has no business being on a podcast). This is like relatives arguing politics at Thanksgiving level ick. I wanted to see the 25 under 25 rankings, and now I'm sorry I watched. I love Windy and want to support him, but this thing makes me sad.
Is it me or does Sengun seem to be the better version of Georges Niang? None basketball question Bontemps when are you going to ask NN why is he playing Lowry so many minutes?
Western Conference All-Star roster early season check-in. In no particular order: 1- Vote Bronny. 2- Nikola Jokic 3- Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 4- Steph Curry 5- Kevin Durant 6- Luka Doncic 7- Anthony Davis 8- Ja Morant 9- Victor Wembenyama 10- Anthony Edwards 11- James Harden 12- Jalen Williams r- Kyrie Irving r- Alperen Sengun r- Karl Anthony-Towns r- De'Aaron Fox r- Devin Booker r- LeBron
Wagner and Green overrated. Jdub and Scottie underrated. No Cam Thomas or RJ Barrett is VERY questionable, esp with Bilil at 25. I get it, Eason is good at defence, and Daniels gets a lot of steals, and they're young....but a nearly 24yr old in Eason averaging 11/6/1 and a nearly 22 yo Daniels avging 14/5/3 probably shouldn't be rated higher than a just turned 23 year old averaging 25/3/3 or a 24 year old averaging 24/6.5/6. I mean, Barrett is putting up borderline all-star numbers here and he's ranked below a bench defender? Yikes.
It's not about who's got better stats homie respectfully it's about who would you rather have and build around going forward. The truth is rj and Cam are who they are and are closer to their ceiling than these other guys. Not to mention THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T IMPACT WINNING. The Knicks dealt rj and got better. Cam is the most selfish "me me me" guy in the NBA. Even bad teams have to have someone score a certain amount of points.
@ I disagree. Stats aren’t everything but they are something. The Knick’s got better because they got a better fit in OG. Not because RJ or IQ were bad. Raps also got better with RJ than with OG. It was a fit trade versus necessarily a skill trade. Cam is a volume scorer but he’s still pretty efficient. A guy like Eason is easier to find than a league average 25ppg player. And I love Eason don’t get me wrong.
@ I think you underrate Cam. He’s a volume scorer sure. And he’s in a great situation for volume scorers. But he’s also very efficient this year at 60.6% TS. The league average is 57.4. So he’s actually been an efficient high level scorer. What team doesn’t want that? The rockets sure could use him over green I’ll tell you that much.
@@AsianDoug first off...granted you're right about the rj trade and I agree with that in terms of the fit but the bottom line in that deal is og is better than rj and IQ as a duo if youre trying to win now period. Second...no I'm not underrating cam. I know what he is. Everyone does. A volume scorer who's small can't guard ANYONE and will be targeted relentlessly in a playoff setting and on offense in a playoff setting HES NOT GOING TO BE THIS GUY in terms of numbers period. I like his game. I hope he gets paid this summer and there's always a place in the NBA who can flat out get buckets but lets slow down he's never going to be a guy you can build around and EASON HAS KAWHI written all over him in terms of his ceiling but he can help EVERY team in the game right now and if he doesnt hit his KAWHI style ceiling HES STILL AN ELITE ROLL GUY. I just don't understand how in the world you think a small defensive liability volume scorer is more valuable than a two way 3 and D guy with star upside. It's insane to say out oud and I don't have a horse in the race I'm a laker and grizz fan. Lol what are we talking about here it's insane to me.
@@xavierjohnson4496 Nah slow down on the Eason/Kawhi thing. Kawhi is Kawhi cuz he could be a DPOY and a #1 option. Eason has flashed absolutely 0 #1 option skills. We said the same thing about OG and Barnes in TO. And I think we'd take both those guys over Eason, right:? It depends on the team. The Raptors for example would much rather have Cam Thomas than Eason. We need that #1 type option because we have guys that can defend. Same thing with Houston. They NEED a guy that can just get buckets because none of their guys are really bucket getters. Lakers on the other hand would rather have an Eason because they need a stopper. Grizz have Bane and Jackson, so imo they'd probably prefer a guy like Cam off the bench to takeover for Ja. I guess we're coming at this from 2 different angles. You're thinking more of who you would add to a championship type roster. In which case, you want an elite role player since you already have your #1/2/3 type guys set. I'm thinking in terms of a rebuilding team, who would they rather have to start a rebuild (like in the Raptors case). If I'm the Lakers or Grizz, I'd rather have Eason, probably (Grizz basically have the short version in Smart). But if I'm the Raptors, I'd probably rather have Cam. Different teams, different needs. My point is though, that a high volume scorer who is actually ABOVE average is a rarer commodity than a defensive player with upside. I mean hell, we have a couple of those guys on the Raptors in Barnes and Agbaji and I don't think either of them will even become Kawhi level.
Castle 100% needed to be on this list. He was the only player personally i saw for sure as a someday all star player out of this class. Doesnt mean there wont be others. I just dont see it from my angle.
he absolutely does not deserve to be on this list yet lmao you can't project into the future off a 20 game sample size of 11 points 3 assists a game on 38% shooting. Need to see more before he's even in the discussion for lists like this.
@82394mike This is not up for debate. This is MY objective opinion of a subjective subject. Go away now. I did not ask for nor care for your rebuttle in any capacity.
LaMelo Ball is literally second in the league in scoring. He’s not in the race for MVP. He’s not in the top list for 25 under 25. He’s not even on ESPN’s best 50 players list he’s marked at 50 how is this possible when he’s better then Anthony Edward’s
Obviously a biased top 25 under 25 due to the media favoritism vs actual contribution towards team success with sheer talent. Perfect example of how the media hyper focus on moments.
@@kraw3026 Yes he is lol… Maxey has 46 dunks in 8698 career minutes and JDub 168 in 5167 minutes and JDub finishes at the rim (in general) with higher efficiently and on higher volume. And he guards 1-5 and has already passed Maxey in career steals and blocks. Maxey is faster that’s all but JDub plays above the rim more and is significantly bigger and stronger while still being fast
@@kraw3026 Basketball athleticism isn’t all about vertical and speed or else Nate Robinson would’ve been a hall of famer… JDub has 6 inches standing reach over Maxey and 20+ pounds of muscle while still being relatively explosive and fast compared to the rest of the league. Maxey is athletic but more of a volume shooter and skill player while JDub relies more on athleticism/physical tools it shows in the stats and watching them
@ stop it. nate robinson's athleicism is the only thing that got him to the nba. Yes tyrese is more skilled so jalen has to rely on raw athleicism more, but he's still not as athletic as tyrese. Just bigger
I respect that no one on this pod had the same idiotic take as Tim Legler who actually said that there is no way Chet Holmgren could be a No. 1 scoring option for an NBA team. I respect everyone's right to a difference of opinions but you had better have actual takes that make sense. Does anyone honestly think that if a team was built around Chet, he couldn't average 22-23 ppg? He simply doesn't need to put up volume on the Thunder. It doesn't mean he couldn't be an upper tier scorer if he had to.
Those dudes somehow are forgeting that last year when lakers did have good supporing cast - Caruso, KCP, Schroder, they still end up 7th in regular season and lost in 1st round. So yea they are on theis 3ed coach and supporting cast at the moment, and all this time they still end up play-in team, so maybe the issue is not "supporting cast" or "coach" or whoever else, but those who were there all this seasons - Lebron and AD. And imo the issue is Lebron not that dude anymore, and AD never was and never will be that dude.
@@Lboogs7 JDub is averaging more points way more efficiently, same amount of assists, is a better defender, way better athlete, and he spreads the floor Sengun is 9-33 from 3 and never gets guarded out there. Sengun is very good but he’s nowhere near Jokic and never will be that comp was never fair
@@Shortballa11 I disagree he’s just starting to heat up this year after returning from injury idk why ppl think he has such a limited ceiling I don’t get it
Personally i would not have Jalen Green on this list. He is shooting 39% fg and 32% 3 pt. And his career averages arent much better. He has not improved at all from his rookie season. Just more volume. Thats it. He is an inefficient chucker. They would be better off having Jordan Clarkson or someone of that ilk. Same arch type of player. But cheaper.
Jordan Clarkson is 32 and doesn’t play defense. Jalen Green is only 22 and stepping up for the Rockets in big moments. His ceiling and floor are high. 41 and 7, 60%FG, 66% from the arc vs Philly a few days ago. Clutch defense. Clutch FTs. Jalen Green slander will no longer be tolerated, folks.
Bruh the list is about potential not who's ballin right now. Look at what Jalen did last year post sengun injury he proved to be what he was thought to be. A dynamic athlete and scoring threat.
Barnes is better 2 way player than those guys you put above him. Put those guys on the current Raps team and tell me how many gms they win. Basket ball is more than #'s. SB is winning kine ups w 4 rookies. Get back to me when Chet, JDub & Paolo can do this.
The Lakers are great at playing at home and beating bad teams. 5-8 against good teams and 7-1 against trash. 7-3 at home 5-6 away. When you build your team around an old player LeBaby this is what you get. He can't defend now so anything he gets you he gives up to the other team. If AD wasn't playing great the Lakers might be one the worst team in the NBA. AD has been the reason they are winning.
Lmfao Windy be tired of Bontempts terrible takes & attitude toward players & the game. He knows it’s ppl like Bontempts & Stephen A that give sports media a bad rep & he tired of it lol
Zion is not going to achieve anything, sadly. We've probably seen the best of him already. Like Blake's career, but not as high and even shorter. Real pity considering his talent... Jalen Green is the same player he's been since he joined and doesn't play winning basketball. I'd replace Green, Zion, Coulibaly on the list. Also, 2021 draft is so strong.
I’m baffled that you think Halliburton is better than LaMelo Ball. He’s nowhere near LaMelo skill set nowhere near the reason why his team even wins because he has a better team. LaMelo just scored 50 Halliburton has yet to do that He has never even been a leading score in the league. You guys are a joke and don’t know basketball
@@sjchacBoth are chuckers. One is efficient. The other is not. Oh, and one gets paid WAY more than the other. Cam all day everyday. Not even close. This is why i disliked Green before his draft even happened. I did not see it with him.
@WheresWaldo05 "both are chuckers" lol Jalen Green is a three level scorer, has a greater faster more explosive archetype and has been extended by the rockets and is on the list of top 25 under 25. Yes he's paid more because the rockets believe in his potential while the nets don't believe in cam Thomas's
They have him at 11. You shouldn't be surprise. Anything to do with Raptors & its players are often not highlighted positively by ESPN & U.S media. This
The overhpye on Magic's guys is diabolical. Paolo is a volume scorer who takes tough shots. His playmaking & decisiin making are questionable. Not a good defender. Not versatile. Franz a play finisher and not a good creator. Magic's record is more due to the defense & soft schedule. Last night that D was bad & got run off the floor . The final score did not do justice how terrible they were.
Paolo is the modern day version of Melo. Franz...listen, I like Franz, he's good. But he's putting up the same numbers as RJ Barrett with 1 more steal a game. He's 1 year younger than RJ. How is that the difference between being top 5 under 25, and not even making the list. LOL. The media narrative is strong here....
Brian at the end, curtly: "yes, you keep saying that!" Also Brian.... 25:54 Bontemps: They traded Gordon, Vuc, and Fournier at the same time. Brian: "The Vucevic trade was in March of 2021-" Bontemps: "-and that's when they moved Gordon and Fournier all at the same time." Brian: "Yes, uh, it was the trade deadline that year, it was a weird, COVID-impacted year, obviously - they traded, uh, Vucevic, uhhh, Fournier, and, uh, Aaron Gordon, in that, uh, stretch there." This was cut out from the youtube version. Bontemps is the last person that needs fact checked, especially not by Windy. But Brian stares at his notes instead of listening and then comes back and says something all the listeners just heard. Does it often. Then it gets a bunch of cuts like a true mainstream media pundit/politician which is why it's the *Day Old Podcast.* Meanwhile we have a better pod that's LIVE Mon, Tues, Thurs, and Friday.
Anyone: "i walked outside today and it was hot."
Bomtempts: "Well look! The sun is a giant ball covered in flames and its only 91 million miles away. We know this. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that when you walk outside you will be in the presence of a giant ball of flames and flames are hot. Im not sure why we dont get this. This shouldnt be a surprise to anyone."
Followed by his favorite line, "I mean... what are we doin', here!?"
The second favourite follows
"The bottom line is”
😂 it’s annoying to most people because most people understand the obvious. There really is some that are that dumb and he’s made a living off of informing them
As soon as I began reading this his voice began to narrate 😂
😂😂😂
"25 under 25" and they STILL managed to get LeBron on the thumbnail.
They only talk about the lakers when they struggle so who cares. More Wemby and Jokic talk otw just wait
I have found that there will always be someone like you looking for something to complain about.
And look at u clicking and commenting which is exactly the mf point good job
Lmao title literally says “AND lakers struggles.” Gotta love an illiterate complaining about incompetence 😂
Because it is LeBron James, not any other player, It's LeBron f James
The ending 😂
bomtempts ability to always wanting to get to the "bottom line" and break each discussion down to its simplest form is always amusing. lol
How dare anyone else have an opinion outside of straight facts. Just b/c Bontemps opinions suck bad doesn't mean others' do.
No bronny on the top 25 ????? The disrespect
I think he's number one of the worst players under 25.
@@CaseyLynn-i7u More like Rookie of the Year. Also be sure to vote Bronny for All-Star
@@Earl_E_Burdhe gotta play outside of the G league first 😂😂😂
That ending was indeed not a warm & fuzzy
Jalen Williams is too low respectfully, I get the past of other players but so far this season he’s playing better than most of these top players.
Not putting too much thought into it and I haven't really looked too hard at the article yet but I think my list based mainly on potential that I feel I could bet on would be:
1. Victor Wembanyama (potential to become a version of Kevin Durant who defends like Hakeem Olajuwon)
2. Anthony Edwards (potential to become a SG on the level of Dwayne Wade)
3. Chet Holmgren (potential to become basically a Kevin Garnett who shoots 3s)
4. Paolo Banchero (potential to be a new school Chris Webber)
5. Jalen Williams (already at the level of prime Khris Middleton with Scottie Pippen potential)
6. Franz Wagner (potential to be a slightly lesser version of Kawhi Leonard)
7. Evan Mobley (potential to be a version of Anthony Davis)
8. Alperen Sengun (potential to be a lesser version of Nikola Jokic)
9. Tyrese Haliburton (potential to be a new school version of Steve Nash)
10. Cade Cunningham (potential to be a new school Grant Hill)
11. Tyrese Maxey (already a better Lou Williams with maybe Lillard-esque upside)
12. Scottie Barnes (potential to be a Draymond Green who can actually score)
13. Lamelo Ball (potential to be a new school Penny Hardaway)
14. Brandon Miller (potential to be a lesser version of Kevin Durant who is already on Brandon Ingram level)
15. Darius Garland (potential to be a better offensive but worse defensive version of Chris Paul)
16. Zion Williamson (only this low due to availability and doubt he will reach his new school Charles Barkley potential)
17. Jalen Johnson (potential to be a lesser version of Paul Pierce)
18. Amen Thompson (potential to be a bigger, better version of John Wall)
19. Jalen Suggs (potential to be as good as prime Jrue Holiday)
20. Dereck Lively (potential to be a better Tyson Chandler)
21. Tari Eason (feels like he could end up a mix of OG Anunoby and prime Marcus Morris)
22. Tyler Herro (feels like we already know what he is and that is a kind of CJ Mccollum level player)
23. Jaden Ivey (potential to be a lesser version of Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook)
24. Cam Thomas (potential to be a better Lou Williams)
25. Dyson Daniels (potential to be a better offensive version of Marcus Smart)
The Scottie Barnes hate is blasphemous!!
Guys been averaging 18 the past 4 years it’s not hate it’s just the truth even being the number one option on his team and he’s still not averaging 25+
No it's not. The dude refuses to get better and he's a bit retarded
@@bryangonzalez6016Guy has been averaging 18 the past 4 yrs? Are you trolling? SB is current averaging 22/9/7 almost a triple double. Missed 11 straight gms due to an elbow in the face by Jokic in a game where he was the best player for 31/2 Qs. Raps is better on both sides of the ball when he is on the floor.He is a 2 way player, versatile ( guard 1-5) with a high bb iq. His playmaking is very good & decision making for 4th yr player is like a 10 yr vet. I don't expect any thing better than ESPN guys & U.S media since they always hate on Raptors and its players. The only correct ranking on thst list is 1 & 2. Scottie is better than players 3-10. I suggest you watch games w/ a view in understanding basket ball fundamentals. Period. Facts!
@@mollyweir9350 Scottie is actually 23/9/8 this year. Dude get's hated on for one simple reason, and one reason only. He is a Toronto Raptor, and because of media rights deals he gets ZERO, and I literally mean ZERO, national exposure in the US. This is why dudes like Siakam, OG, VanVleet and DeRozan received ZERO attention until joining other clubs. When they joined other clubs, there play and measurables were no better than they were with the Raptors, but all the sudden everybody knows these guys and the basketball media praises them. On the flip side of this, we have all know every f'n single young Laker as if they are stars, especially the white ones - even though these dudes are mid in every way.
Same with Lamelo
49:28..."Yes, yes, you keep saying that. Of course that's true, thank you very much...."
LOL, Windhorst be making me laugh.
NBA cup going on and we’re talking Lakers. Im disappointed, I thought we were getting in a good place last year with the rule
Yes, cus talking about the lakers brings in view/clicks. Its 2024, how do you not know this? ESPN/DIS are in the business of making money; talking about the grizzlies or magic does not get the same attention/views/clicks as the lakers.
Should've had another special pod after todays game LA vs Heat
@@EStrader528thank you bruh I hate seeing ppl complaint about the SAME thing every video. But giving them exactly what they want, & that’s why they keep doing it
Paolo > Chet elite number 1 offensive option is superior to high end defender who's an offensive role player that's also already had 2 major injuries
Bruh. Bontemps is like the lil kid in the corner on these
It's cause he's always so salty lol
Cam Thomas is averaging 25/4/3 on 61% TS over his last 50 games going back to last year there’s no argument for putting Jalen green there ahead of him
They're the same ineffecient scorer. Green is just way more talented
Yep, Cam is what Jalen Green COULD become. This list is ridiculous. They put way too much emphasis on young age in some cases (Dyson Daniels, Bilal Coulibaly, Green), but then also have Eason who is 24 years old and averaging 11/6/1 over a guy the same age averaging 24/6.5/6. How does that work? Eason's defence is very good, but you can't convince me it's worth 13 pts and 5 assists more than RJ Barrett.... lol.
@@kraw3026Cam Thomas is shooting 6 percentage points better from the field than Jalen Green! JG is inefficient, Cam is not
@@walterzarate4674 Cam is just more effecient than jalen. They both clearly are
@@kraw3026 Cam Thomas has a better FG% than Step Curry, Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum, Luka Doncic and Cade Cunningham and James Harden this year lol again, Jalen Green is inefficient, Cam is not
How is RJ Barrett 24 not on this list - a career 19ppg average and averaging 23.7, 6 and 6. ESPN list bogus as usual
Windy done had enough!
Can they record when windy isn’t all crabby and sleep deprived? Also would it kill you to make it an actual hour so you don’t have to rush all these topics?
So much unfulfilled potential in the *Day Old Podcast*
The good: Love listening to these guys.
The bad: No debate on Wemby vs ANT for #1 was a disappointment.
Barnes should be higher, but it's seriously embarrassing that RJ Barrett isn't on here. I have a feeling Windbag is a Knicks fan and isn't thrilled that RJ is blowing it up north of the border.
God these guys have some extreme SDE.
Did Bontemps just say hali is more talented than melo ?? tf is he smoking
You guys need to fk do Wednesday morning now we need to wait 3 days for you reaction about the cup …..
We’re talking Lakers tho guys 🤣
Only a matter of time before Windy kicks Know-it-all-big-mouth Bontemps to the curb. I'll buy the drinks when he does.
I legitimately don't understand why they keep Bontempts on this podcast (I would like to say that I think he is a great baskeball reporter, but he has no business being on a podcast). This is like relatives arguing politics at Thanksgiving level ick. I wanted to see the 25 under 25 rankings, and now I'm sorry I watched. I love Windy and want to support him, but this thing makes me sad.
Is it me or does Sengun seem to be the better version of Georges Niang? None basketball question Bontemps when are you going to ask NN why is he playing Lowry so many minutes?
Shaedon Sharpe disrespected again, clears Bilal Coulibaly and Jalen Green
Could watch 3 hours of these dudes daily
Western Conference All-Star roster early season check-in. In no particular order:
1- Vote Bronny.
2- Nikola Jokic
3- Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
4- Steph Curry
5- Kevin Durant
6- Luka Doncic
7- Anthony Davis
8- Ja Morant
9- Victor Wembenyama
10- Anthony Edwards
11- James Harden
12- Jalen Williams
r- Kyrie Irving
r- Alperen Sengun
r- Karl Anthony-Towns
r- De'Aaron Fox
r- Devin Booker
r- LeBron
Wagner and Green overrated. Jdub and Scottie underrated. No Cam Thomas or RJ Barrett is VERY questionable, esp with Bilil at 25. I get it, Eason is good at defence, and Daniels gets a lot of steals, and they're young....but a nearly 24yr old in Eason averaging 11/6/1 and a nearly 22 yo Daniels avging 14/5/3 probably shouldn't be rated higher than a just turned 23 year old averaging 25/3/3 or a 24 year old averaging 24/6.5/6. I mean, Barrett is putting up borderline all-star numbers here and he's ranked below a bench defender? Yikes.
It's not about who's got better stats homie respectfully it's about who would you rather have and build around going forward. The truth is rj and Cam are who they are and are closer to their ceiling than these other guys. Not to mention THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T IMPACT WINNING. The Knicks dealt rj and got better. Cam is the most selfish "me me me" guy in the NBA. Even bad teams have to have someone score a certain amount of points.
@ I disagree. Stats aren’t everything but they are something. The Knick’s got better because they got a better fit in OG. Not because RJ or IQ were bad. Raps also got better with RJ than with OG. It was a fit trade versus necessarily a skill trade. Cam is a volume scorer but he’s still pretty efficient. A guy like Eason is easier to find than a league average 25ppg player. And I love Eason don’t get me wrong.
@ I think you underrate Cam. He’s a volume scorer sure. And he’s in a great situation for volume scorers. But he’s also very efficient this year at 60.6% TS. The league average is 57.4. So he’s actually been an efficient high level scorer. What team doesn’t want that? The rockets sure could use him over green I’ll tell you that much.
@@AsianDoug first off...granted you're right about the rj trade and I agree with that in terms of the fit but the bottom line in that deal is og is better than rj and IQ as a duo if youre trying to win now period. Second...no I'm not underrating cam. I know what he is. Everyone does. A volume scorer who's small can't guard ANYONE and will be targeted relentlessly in a playoff setting and on offense in a playoff setting HES NOT GOING TO BE THIS GUY in terms of numbers period. I like his game. I hope he gets paid this summer and there's always a place in the NBA who can flat out get buckets but lets slow down he's never going to be a guy you can build around and EASON HAS KAWHI written all over him in terms of his ceiling but he can help EVERY team in the game right now and if he doesnt hit his KAWHI style ceiling HES STILL AN ELITE ROLL GUY. I just don't understand how in the world you think a small defensive liability volume scorer is more valuable than a two way 3 and D guy with star upside. It's insane to say out oud and I don't have a horse in the race I'm a laker and grizz fan. Lol what are we talking about here it's insane to me.
@@xavierjohnson4496 Nah slow down on the Eason/Kawhi thing. Kawhi is Kawhi cuz he could be a DPOY and a #1 option. Eason has flashed absolutely 0 #1 option skills. We said the same thing about OG and Barnes in TO. And I think we'd take both those guys over Eason, right:?
It depends on the team. The Raptors for example would much rather have Cam Thomas than Eason. We need that #1 type option because we have guys that can defend. Same thing with Houston. They NEED a guy that can just get buckets because none of their guys are really bucket getters.
Lakers on the other hand would rather have an Eason because they need a stopper. Grizz have Bane and Jackson, so imo they'd probably prefer a guy like Cam off the bench to takeover for Ja.
I guess we're coming at this from 2 different angles. You're thinking more of who you would add to a championship type roster. In which case, you want an elite role player since you already have your #1/2/3 type guys set. I'm thinking in terms of a rebuilding team, who would they rather have to start a rebuild (like in the Raptors case). If I'm the Lakers or Grizz, I'd rather have Eason, probably (Grizz basically have the short version in Smart). But if I'm the Raptors, I'd probably rather have Cam. Different teams, different needs. My point is though, that a high volume scorer who is actually ABOVE average is a rarer commodity than a defensive player with upside. I mean hell, we have a couple of those guys on the Raptors in Barnes and Agbaji and I don't think either of them will even become Kawhi level.
The disrespect for Lamelo ball is sad my dude is literally the second best scorer in the nba
Yes yes he had a game 7 at the garden…and the Knicks had half a team lol
Castle 100% needed to be on this list. He was the only player personally i saw for sure as a someday all star player out of this class. Doesnt mean there wont be others. I just dont see it from my angle.
he absolutely does not deserve to be on this list yet lmao you can't project into the future off a 20 game sample size of 11 points 3 assists a game on 38% shooting. Need to see more before he's even in the discussion for lists like this.
@82394mike This is not up for debate. This is MY objective opinion of a subjective subject. Go away now. I did not ask for nor care for your rebuttle in any capacity.
LaMelo Ball is literally second in the league in scoring. He’s not in the race for MVP. He’s not in the top list for 25 under 25. He’s not even on ESPN’s best 50 players list he’s marked at 50 how is this possible when he’s better then Anthony Edward’s
Obviously a biased top 25 under 25 due to the media favoritism vs actual contribution towards team success with sheer talent. Perfect example of how the media hyper focus on moments.
Mobley, Hali and Maxey over JDub is very questionable he’s the most complete player out of them and best athlete
He is not a better athlete than maxey😂😂
@@kraw3026 Yes he is lol… Maxey has 46 dunks in 8698 career minutes and JDub 168 in 5167 minutes and JDub finishes at the rim (in general) with higher efficiently and on higher volume. And he guards 1-5 and has already passed Maxey in career steals and blocks. Maxey is faster that’s all but JDub plays above the rim more and is significantly bigger and stronger while still being fast
@ tyrese is not only faster, he's more explosive. Jdubb has no quick twitch. Tyrese is laterally quicker and had a 5 inch higher vert
@@kraw3026 Basketball athleticism isn’t all about vertical and speed or else Nate Robinson would’ve been a hall of famer… JDub has 6 inches standing reach over Maxey and 20+ pounds of muscle while still being relatively explosive and fast compared to the rest of the league. Maxey is athletic but more of a volume shooter and skill player while JDub relies more on athleticism/physical tools it shows in the stats and watching them
@ stop it. nate robinson's athleicism is the only thing that got him to the nba. Yes tyrese is more skilled so jalen has to rely on raw athleicism more, but he's still not as athletic as tyrese. Just bigger
Eason should absolutely be playing over Brooks and Green. Give the man 30+ mins already!
Haliburton is overrated dudes not better then Maxsey or Lamelo
I swear some times it looks like he has no idea how to play organized basketball haha
or scottie
Scottie is so underrated by non Canadian media
I respect that no one on this pod had the same idiotic take as Tim Legler who actually said that there is no way Chet Holmgren could be a No. 1 scoring option for an NBA team. I respect everyone's right to a difference of opinions but you had better have actual takes that make sense. Does anyone honestly think that if a team was built around Chet, he couldn't average 22-23 ppg? He simply doesn't need to put up volume on the Thunder. It doesn't mean he couldn't be an upper tier scorer if he had to.
Those dudes somehow are forgeting that last year when lakers did have good supporing cast - Caruso, KCP, Schroder, they still end up 7th in regular season and lost in 1st round. So yea they are on theis 3ed coach and supporting cast at the moment, and all this time they still end up play-in team, so maybe the issue is not "supporting cast" or "coach" or whoever else, but those who were there all this seasons - Lebron and AD. And imo the issue is Lebron not that dude anymore, and AD never was and never will be that dude.
The usual glazing of "potential" over factual stats tbh. This is a media wide issue not just ESPN sadly.
Bontemps lmao LeBron isn't awesome because he's averaging 22,8,8. Keep in mind he gets calls no one else gets and plays to get stats.
Windy looks so sad. His meal ticket isn't coming through. And we can see how much he benefitted from that over the years, in his face.
yall in the comments have no idea how good scottie is lmao
1. Wemby
2. Ant
3. JDub
4. Paolo
5. Chet
6. Barnes
7. Ball
8. Franz
9. Sengun
10. Hali (^v?)
11. J Johnson
12. Mobley
13. Cade
14. Garland
15. Maxey
16. Amen
17. Miller
18. Zion 🏥
19. Barrett
20. Herro
21. Eason
22. C White
23. Castle
24. Suggs
25. Bilal
Terrible order
No way Jalen Williams is over Sengun
Scottie Barnes aint like that. He will end up a great 3rd option on a contender though
@@Lboogs7 JDub is averaging more points way more efficiently, same amount of assists, is a better defender, way better athlete, and he spreads the floor Sengun is 9-33 from 3 and never gets guarded out there. Sengun is very good but he’s nowhere near Jokic and never will be that comp was never fair
@@Shortballa11 I disagree he’s just starting to heat up this year after returning from injury idk why ppl think he has such a limited ceiling I don’t get it
50mins, too long. Why didn't they include Luka? He's 25 years old.
The Rockets are the next OKC. Wemby will have a hard time winning soon with those teams in the West...
It’s very clear they never watched a single raps game
What’s with the Jalen green hate
Personally i would not have Jalen Green on this list. He is shooting 39% fg and 32% 3 pt. And his career averages arent much better. He has not improved at all from his rookie season. Just more volume. Thats it. He is an inefficient chucker. They would be better off having Jordan Clarkson or someone of that ilk. Same arch type of player. But cheaper.
Jordan Clarkson is 32 and doesn’t play defense.
Jalen Green is only 22 and stepping up for the Rockets in big moments. His ceiling and floor are high.
41 and 7, 60%FG, 66% from the arc vs Philly a few days ago. Clutch defense. Clutch FTs.
Jalen Green slander will no longer be tolerated, folks.
Bruh the list is about potential not who's ballin right now. Look at what Jalen did last year post sengun injury he proved to be what he was thought to be. A dynamic athlete and scoring threat.
Barnes is better 2 way player than those guys you put above him. Put those guys on the current Raps team and tell me how many gms they win. Basket ball is more than #'s. SB is winning kine ups w 4 rookies. Get back to me when Chet, JDub & Paolo can do this.
No Cam Thomas....
His defense is awful and not a great playmaker but he has an argument to be on here he is a bucket
@@bkelly625 If Jalen Green is on there then Cam should be too. Either both or neither
@@Shortballa11 I disagree with Green being on the list he’s way too inconsistent
@@bkelly625 I agree with that.
How is Zion still on this list? lol
Scottie a little lower than he should I think. He's been cooking since he put on the glasses.
Jalen green over Herro is absurd
Tatum STANS pretend he's forever 21
🤣🤣😭😭😭🍼🍼🧂🧂🧂
Bontemps has no chill
The Lakers are great at playing at home and beating bad teams. 5-8 against good teams and 7-1 against trash. 7-3 at home 5-6 away. When you build your team around an old player LeBaby this is what you get. He can't defend now so anything he gets you he gives up to the other team. If AD wasn't playing great the Lakers might be one the worst team in the NBA. AD has been the reason they are winning.
Shaedon Sharpe better than 90% of these guys but he play in Portland so yall don’t know
Windy probably just needed to take a whiz there at the end. all good
Giannis is as good a PLAYMAKER as Jokic? He’s as good a PASSER? Perkins is a moron.
The rockets are a prime example of fools gold. If they don’t land up in the play ins at best I’ll eat a shoe
Lmfao Windy be tired of Bontempts terrible takes & attitude toward players & the game. He knows it’s ppl like Bontempts & Stephen A that give sports media a bad rep & he tired of it lol
Bontemps is the idiot who put scottie barnes @ 11
What beat is in the beginning?
And no one talks about the jazz and all this i believe jazz has as many
Zion is not going to achieve anything, sadly. We've probably seen the best of him already. Like Blake's career, but not as high and even shorter. Real pity considering his talent...
Jalen Green is the same player he's been since he joined and doesn't play winning basketball.
I'd replace Green, Zion, Coulibaly on the list. Also, 2021 draft is so strong.
No love for boy wonder Herro 😂
DENI AVDIJA
rj barrett is under 25 n shud be there over someone like coulibaly
I’m baffled that you think Halliburton is better than LaMelo Ball. He’s nowhere near LaMelo skill set nowhere near the reason why his team even wins because he has a better team. LaMelo just scored 50 Halliburton has yet to do that He has never even been a leading score in the league. You guys are a joke and don’t know basketball
I don’t understand what LeBron is doing still playing. Is he trying to be better then MJ
Still stackin accolades that will be tough for anyone to catch. Next best thing since his peak couldn't touch Jordan's peak.
Haliburton over Lamelo 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀
I just wish bontemps was gone
the ending lol! adios amigos
zion williamson doesn't look like under 25
Where is cam Thomas
No cam thomas who is objectively better than jalen green is crazy
At this point I think people just be glazing him for his swag
Lol no he's not. They trying to trade him
@@sjchacBoth are chuckers. One is efficient. The other is not. Oh, and one gets paid WAY more than the other. Cam all day everyday. Not even close. This is why i disliked Green before his draft even happened. I did not see it with him.
@@WheresWaldo05cam is a less talented version
@WheresWaldo05 "both are chuckers" lol Jalen Green is a three level scorer, has a greater faster more explosive archetype and has been extended by the rockets and is on the list of top 25 under 25. Yes he's paid more because the rockets believe in his potential while the nets don't believe in cam Thomas's
How cam Thomas not make it
They pushing for Derrick white in the east but it’s the east so whatever
what the hell no scottie barnes?!
They have him at 11. You shouldn't be surprise. Anything to do with Raptors & its players are often not highlighted positively by ESPN & U.S media. This
hali been trash this year, no way he should be that high
1- 5 is terrible
Watch them vote Jalen W over Ja morant for allstar they weird
Bronny James should be #1.
Lakers get m brogdon and r Holmes wizards gets d Russell a reavers and gabe Vincent this trade is successful about that nba
The overhpye on Magic's guys is diabolical. Paolo is a volume scorer who takes tough shots. His playmaking & decisiin making are questionable. Not a good defender. Not versatile. Franz a play finisher and not a good creator. Magic's record is more due to the defense & soft schedule. Last night that D was bad & got run off the floor . The final score did not do justice how terrible they were.
Paolo is the modern day version of Melo. Franz...listen, I like Franz, he's good. But he's putting up the same numbers as RJ Barrett with 1 more steal a game. He's 1 year younger than RJ. How is that the difference between being top 5 under 25, and not even making the list. LOL. The media narrative is strong here....
Brian at the end, curtly: "yes, you keep saying that!" Also Brian.... 25:54
Bontemps: They traded Gordon, Vuc, and Fournier at the same time.
Brian: "The Vucevic trade was in March of 2021-"
Bontemps: "-and that's when they moved Gordon and Fournier all at the same time."
Brian: "Yes, uh, it was the trade deadline that year, it was a weird, COVID-impacted year, obviously - they traded, uh, Vucevic, uhhh, Fournier, and, uh, Aaron Gordon, in that, uh, stretch there."
This was cut out from the youtube version. Bontemps is the last person that needs fact checked, especially not by Windy. But Brian stares at his notes instead of listening and then comes back and says something all the listeners just heard. Does it often. Then it gets a bunch of cuts like a true mainstream media pundit/politician which is why it's the *Day Old Podcast.* Meanwhile we have a better pod that's LIVE Mon, Tues, Thurs, and Friday.
You really typed all that to plug your shitty podcast?
Oh windy wants to increase the amount of all stars? Because poor wemby won’t make it. P****
Why are they aloud too talk about basketball when they can’t win against my 6 year old son -_-…1 should b reviewing food n I’ll jus stop….
I’d take RJ over Zion
Rockets should trade for Devin Booker, win win for both teams
That's who they want but Jalen Green and FRPs ain't getting Booker, let's be real
LaMelo > Hali
Halliburton is not better than lamelo, lamelo averaging 30 7 5 this year gtfoh!!! But I will say lamelo is always hurt so I guess that lowers his rank
sbtitles please
Zion hasn't improved in any area
Where the fook is rj. Oo ye i forgot he dont play in ny and plays in the only franchise outside america.
Lebron's wife must be so annoyed, by all the times Lebron wakes up screaming, from a nightmare where MJ is laughing at him.
Remember the day-old breadstore? Where you get a discount on old bread and twinkies. This is the *Day Old Podcast.*
The real top 5
Wemby
Holmgren
Edwards
Banchero
Barnes
Love the show, show the chemistry of you 3! Perfect mixed nuts. 😅 avid fan from Alberta Canada. Go Bucks!