NO! 😞You CAN'T PROPAGATE ROSES from Bouquet Rose STEM CUTTINGS!🌹Shirley Bovshow/ EdenMakers
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- No! YOU CAN'T PROPAGATE ROSES FROM BOUQUET ROSE stem cuttings or store-bought roses!!! There's a growing number of videos and articles on the internet that claim that you can regrow roses from cuttings from long stem roses also known as bouquet roses, but IT'S NOT TRUE!!
The odds are stacked against a successful rose propagation for a number of reasons. Garden expert, Shirley Bovshow explains.
"Most bouquet roses travel thousands of miles from South America, Africa, and Australia before reaching the wholesale and retail florists who sell the roses to the consumer. By the time the consumer has a rose bouquet in their hands, it's been 7 to 10 days since the roses were cut from the plant!" Taking stem cuttings from bouquet roses is inferior to taking fresh cuttings from a lateral stem on a rose plant. Watch this video and understand why!
Shirley explains the interesting details about commercial flower roses that will make you a more informed rose plant grower! Of course, you can experiment with trying to propagate a bouquet rose, you only have time to lose! You might get lucky but the odds are against you.
I hope you will appreciate the fact that accurate information is very important to me!
DISCLAIMER: When I refer to "commercial cut roses" or "florist roses" I am not referring to local fresh cut organic roses or miniature roses that have a greater chance of rooting successfully.
I do mention that 'You may be able to root a florist rose but you would have to be very lucky and manage your expectations." I stand by that claim.
The purpose of this video is to share solid reasons why you should not EXPECT this method of propagation to be successful.
-Sure, in nature, there are exceptions to the rule, and when a florist rose successfully roots, this is an exception! In fact, when you use "proper" propagation techniques, even an experienced propagator may have only a 60 to 70% success rate, and that is considered good!
There are several reasons the odds are stacked against you when trying to root a cutting from a typical florist rose bouquet:
Rose cuttings root more successfully when they are "stuck" soon after cutting. The plant hormones are at their most potent level for creating roots, new shoots, and leaves.
Most commercial roses are imported from South America, Africa, and other countries around the world. By the time they get to the wholesaler, the retailer, then the consumer, florist roses would have been cut from 5 to 8 days prior!
Commercial cut roses are treated with different chemicals, (natural and man-made) that inhibit rooting to secure fresh-looking roses.
Florists often remove all the leaves, and thorns, (that lay above nodes) which are the growing points in stems. With no leaves, nodes, or damaged nodes, a rose cutting will not produce roots! The cutting may grow leaves but NO ROOTS! (I hear this a lot).
Commercial cut roses are NOT bred to be successful and reliable "garden roses" for climates outside of their greenhouses or unique outdoor climate
Many commercial roses are grafted onto a rootstock that promotes tall, turgid stems, large flowers, glossy leaves in an "artificially managed environment" These roses are bred to become "JUST A CUT ROSE!"
I compare many commercial cut roses to a movie set:
The sets are built to LOOK beautiful for a temporary display. These facades aren't built with structural integrity or for people to actually LIVE in the buildings. They only need to stand as long as the cameras are rolling and when the director says "cut" the walls come tumbling down!
The purpose of commercial cut roses is similar...they just have to look amazing for a total of 15-20 days, which is the typical shelf life of a florist rose.
Garden and landscape roses are bred with the opposite goal in mind to function and produce roses for the long haul. So they are the most reliable source for cuttings!.
There are more biological reasons why commercial cut rose stems are not optimal for rooting!
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This is an awesome video. There were some people in one of my garden groups asking if it could be done, and now I can link them an informative video with a good answer.
Thanks so much for watching Raven. I really appreciate your feedback as unfortunately, there's lots of bad info on the internet and it's difficult to know what is factual and what is not. Have you subscribed to my UA-cam channel? This is a personal invitation! Ha ha.
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This is incorrect info. I've rooted long stem bouquet roses 3 times and have 3 plants to show for it! This info isn't correct. It may not have worked for her, but it certainly does work!
@@jlnriddick So what did you do to get them going? Rooting hormones, or willow water, or simply sticking them in dirt.
This is not accurate. I've grown roses from cuttings, and once you root them yourself they acclimate to your area as it grown.
@@ravenmorrigana1093 I used rooting hormone, and started them in an 8 inch pot of well mixed sand and soil. I watered them in well, put them in a well lit area without full sun, and placed a 2LT clear plastic soda bottle over the cuttings (bottom 1/3 of the bottle cut off). Keep the bottle top off for airflow. Check the pot every few days to make sure it remains moist (It should almost immediately develop condensation inside the soda bottle), but don't disturb the cuttings. After a couple of weeks (2-3) you'll start to see leaf buds develop, but the roots will take about 6 weeks. Leave the soda bottle over the cuttings the whole time, and only add moisture (with a spritz bottle) if necessary, otherwise your cuttings could easily rot before rooting. I did this outside during August/September... Zone 6.
YES! I bought my new wife a single rose for our wedding 15 years ago. After the rose turned, I cut it and grew it again and it is still in my front garden.
Congrats on your success. It is not common but can be done. Thanks for watching.
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Then don't say it can't be done.
@@Beread11 Thanks for commenting.
@@Beread11 she didn’t say it can’t be done. Did you watch the video?
@@EdenMakers I love your videos and your excitement when you talk about plants. You’ve inspired me to get into gardening as well. I now have 7 roses and 13 hibiscus thanks to watching your videos. Thank you ❤️🍀
I planted cuttings from a whole bouquet. Say about 20 or so flowers. 7 rooted and are now growing in my garden. I take care of them delicately
It's not absolutely impossible and can happen, but not all florist flowers are treated with growth inhibitors, glad yours grew! 😁
Really are they beautiful and big bud like florist ones....
Odd video to say the least! I've propagated roses from bouquets several times. I have two that have just been potted up from rooting them this summer. If you want to propagate them, go ahead and try. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I've never heard anyone discourage this before! Not sure your info is accurate.
Hi, Congrats on your success. However, the success rate is low for most store bought roses. MOST, but not all florist flowers are treated with growth inhibitors. It's not absolutely impossible and can happen. Thanks for sharing your experience. Have a great day.
yes I agree this is pretty inaccurate I watched one from a rose shop owner and he said its more about the quality of cutting and if its semi-hard wood
@@nevaehangotti1635 I agree that semi-hard wood cuttings with at least 4 nodes and some leaves are important for cutting specimens.
Can u tell me how you did it?
Yes, would love to hear how to do it. I have about 8-10 stems that are sprouting. I’ve cut off the dried flowers. Sprouted stems looking great for about 3 weeks but some now starting to wilt. Any suggestions?
This is such an honest video, thank you so much. I have tried it so many times and it never happened, and I felt I was doing it wrong. Most videos show as if it's a child's play. With your explanation, it makes things clearer. I will try again but this time I will know better why and how it works.
Thanks for watching, Ajanta. I am happy you found my video helpful! Best of luck!
You have to do it right to grow the root. Follow all instructions and you will gave all chances that it’ll propagate
my bouquet watching this in the vase with new leaves growing on them 👁👄👁
You are one of the lucky ones! Is it growing roots as well?
Same here!! I am growing roses from Costco, I have them inside plastic bottles with a little bit of water 🥰
@@gloriar7937 how are the roots coming along?
I am also growing roses from a bouquet. Just transplanted them. The roots look great. It can be done.
@@williamstout7137Thanks for watching and commenting. Congratulations. Growing roots is but ONE step in "growing" your rose plant. I didn't say it was "impossible" to root a cutting from a florist bouquet. I said that the odds were stacked against you to grow a successful plant for a variety of reasons that you can read in my video description. One of the reasons that it is difficult to GROW a plant from a florist rose is that many of these roses come from plants from S American or S Africa that are not bred to survive in a home garden. Rather, they are bred to survive and thrive in a carefully controlled environment or in a natural climate that is unique and unmatched anywhere else! Florist roses are not your "every day" garden roses. See my description for more details!
I knew the success rate is low because the roses are often not fresh enough, but you can still give a go. It's not absolutely impossible after all.
Thank you for weighing in Garven! I appreciate you watching my video!
I have successfully grown rose plants from my rose bouquets. It is absolutely possible. But it is 1 out of 100 stems. But it is definitely not impossible. I have proof sitting in front of me.
Shirley's comments are right on the money. She is trying to set the expectations. The odds are stacked against the stem roses for propagation but you can do it. I am at a stage where propagating cuttings from a rose bush in my yard is a piece of cake but cuttings from a store bought stem roses is still a work in progress. I got a story for you that has nothing to do with bouquet roses but cuttings in general.
Cuttings have a personality of their own for sure. The more you baby them the less success you have with them. They do like some care but don't like being smothered. Once I planted some cuttings in a pot(soil mostly pea gravel, sand, and some dirt as an experiment) and placed some twigs and dry leaves over the pot to give the subjects some protection from outdoor elements. I totally forgot about the pot that was sitting on the edge of patio where some sun and rain(with help of wind) can get to them, never watered them, months later I was getting ready to use the pot for some fresh cuttings, decided to remove the forgotten cuttings and throw them in trash, when the debris was cleaned from the pot, the cuttings underneath looked shriveled(still green though), totally listless, but then I got curious and thought "Would they come back from dead if I water them?", so I did. A week later they all came back to life and since then they would take on a ton of fresh leaves everyday as if to make up for lost time. 😀😀LoL
Hi Ven, Thanks for watching and sharing your story! I agree it’s not impossible to do but the odds are stacked against you. I appreciate the story!
Yes I've had success in growing a rose from a florist rose. I had three growing in my rose garden. I kept cutting off the roses and giving them to the neighbors.
Turns out that I would have been wiser to leave them. The plant plants became exhausted and died.
Hi John,, Congrats on your initial success! It's a learning process and not all cuttings respond the same. You were fortunate that they rooted in the first place.
If you have time to read the video description above I give reasons Why cuttings from commercial rose bouquets Are not destined for success even when they root. Commercial roses I just not bred for long-term success. They are bred to grow beautiful straight longstem roses they only have to look good for 10 to 20 days. They are not bread to grow as beautiful and viable rosebushes.
Sorry to hear about the others dying though.
I have had a single success after about 7 attempts on different roses.
Hi Jartopia, Congrats on your success! Its a learning process and not all cuttings respond the same. Glad you are finding success.
A friend has rooted many roses from bouquets, but I took a long time to find roses that weren't treated. Then she had to work on how she did it. Still she often has less than 50% success and sometimes 0%. Of the roses that do grow, many are fairly poor growers and would be better grafted or budded. It is much, much cheaper to buy grafted roses that are for cutting. As a hobby rooting florist roses is expensive and has a low rate of success, but it keeps her busy. It is not a beginner way to learn how to propagate, it is an advanced way to take gambles.
Hi Anne, Thanks so much for sharing this account. I agree that it's worth a try but certainly not the BEST or most efficient way to propagate roses- which is the point of my video. As a gardening educator, I prefer to teach how to take rose cuttings from ideal and optimal mother plants! Thanks again.
I just recently root a yellow rose from a bouquet. That being said I have always had luck rooting roses on accident. (I bury roses on top of love ones fresh graves and most of the time a rose bushes will sprout.)
That's beautiful! Glad to hear you have been successful with rooting you roses 🤗
I just took roses I bought from a grocery store..I put them in a vase AFTER I cut just a bit off the bottom of the stem at a angle. I had them in the vase, changed the water once a day for the 2 days that I had them in the vase.Today,took them out of the vase.I cut one onto 2 pieces and put it in a glass of water..going to change it every 2 days.The others,,I had a pot,organic potting soil and honey.I cut the flower off as well as the leaves.Made holes in the potting soil,,dipped the bottom of the fresh cut bottom of the stem (again) in honey..put them in the potting soil,doused it with FILTERED water,,put a plastic bag over the whole thing.I put it on the coffee table where it gets light but not direct sunlight..I will check the soil in a week or 2 just to keep it moist..we shall see !
Sounds like a great experiment! It's not absolutely impossible and can happen, because not all florist flowers are treated with growth inhibitors. Good luck!
I got roses from Publix supermarket and I replanted and they are beautiful. I think I was lucky ❤️❤️❤️❤️ love the video.
Hi, Andy, Congrats on your success. However, the success rate is low for most store-bought roses. MOST, but not all florist flowers are treated with growth inhibitors. It's not absolutely impossible and can happen. Thanks for sharing your experience. Have a great day.
Sounds like a challenge to me, lol
Welcome to try Mike! LOL
@@EdenMakers Mike Kincaid (the person you responded to here) has an amazing youtube channel with more than 200,000 subscribers, and it's all about propagating plants! He's the BEST there is, so I can assure you, this is not actually a challenge for him! Check out his channel! It's exactly where I learned to grow roses from commercial cuttings, and many, many other cuttings as well! You'll love him! We ALL love him!
@@jlnriddick Thanks for sharing this information! I will check it out. Keep in mind that Mike is an expert and has a better chance of success than the beginner. As plant propagation pros we know about other details that are required for success!
@@EdenMakers Mike's whole purpose is to share everything he knows, and he does it in such a simple way so that everyone is successful. His enthusiasm is infectious and he's never afraid to make mistakes. Everything I know about propagation comes from his channel and the entire channel community!
@@jlnriddick That's wonderful! I hope you will check out my other propagation videos. I do this for a living, not a hobbyist- FYI!
Very informative vedio. By GOD you are looking so fresh like a Rose also. Dressing exceptionally great.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have start roses from bouquets the same way I do everything else.
Cut them into lengths about 8 inches and stick them in random places around the garden.
Most will not make it, but when I do get one that grows it was with minimal effort.
So glad you have succeeded! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I now have 12 roses which dressed the top of my mother's coffin. They will be propped and grown again in her 4 children's gardens.
That's wonderful to hear. Sorry for your loss. Best of luck.
I once propagated Red Naomi and Grand Prix.
One way you can increase your odds is to provide water circulation to the roses if you're propagating them in water. That's where I got my successes.
Hi and thanks for watching! Thanks for sharing your success and tips.
I did cutting from M&S mother's day rose in March this year , it is flowering now in UK , so beautiful
Congrats on your success!
Come on guys, what'd you think they were going to title the video: "You Can Try To Grow Roses From A Florist's Bouquet But It's Really Really Hard With An Exceptionally Low Success Rate!"?
No, of course not, they're going to use a rage bait title. ANYWAYS, very informative overall, Shirley. It can be done, but it is indeed super hard with a very low success rate. I'm also fortunate in that I live in Southern Arizona, so I'm a bit closer to the flowers and since I don't have to worry about hardiness occasionally it's worked for me. So, honestly it can be fun to try out. If you really love your bouquet there's no reason to not try so long as you don't try to sell the plants that do root, because that may very well be illegal. It's important for people to understand that most florist flowers have been irradiated to die after blooming, especially countries that import nearly all of their cut flowers, like Australia. Some vendors face fees if their flowers DON'T die "on time". That's just the world we live in now. So yeah, go ahead and try, just don't get your hopes up too high, or waste your time arguing with the title of a 3 year old video...
Hi Cassandra! Amen. Thanks for understanding. It sounds like you may be in the garden industry as well?
Kudos on your “highly unlikely” success propagating florist roses!😉
Have you tried making a video on experimenting using clonex? I've seen a lot of videos on how to grow roses from bouquets and they keep on using clonex.
I haven't used clonex before but it surely has something in it that makes rose cuttings from bouquets have roots. This thing is kinda mind blowing.
Hi, I have not used Clonex for propagation before. It's a popular product for cloning cannabis plants. Thanks for the suggestion.
I have done it many times. I have used rooting hormone, cinnamon, and honey. The rooting hormone worked best. It does need to have high humidity, so I use a plastic clear tote with a lid and some small holes
Thanks for commenting.
Since you have propagated roses from bouquets (a few times) I would love to know how many mature rosebushes you have now?
Are the plants healthy, give you lots of flowers?
How old is the oldest rosebush propagated in this manner?
thanks so much.
Cut stems n put in water changing water once a week and around 30 days should be rooted.then put in soil. usually works pretty good
Hi Corolla, Congrats on your success! Its a learning process and not all cuttings respond the same. Glad you are finding success.
Thanks. I’ll try this. No roots yet but have 8-10 stems with sprouts, but after 3-4 weeks some are wilting . I haven’t changed water often enough perhaps? Do you think the wilting is a problem?
@@jamikoehl4275 Yes, wilting is a problem. In order for a cutting to root, there must be enough active growth cells within the stem.
I have propagated roses by going to the roadshows and asking for the cuttings after the judging is over quite successfully under mist
What a great supply of cuttings! I’m sorry envious😊
So many people are criticizing her but she is saying it’s difficult but not be impossible if it hasn’t been treated with rooting inhibitors. Yes, I have rooted and planted a store bought (grocery store) bouquet rose. Of course only 2 out of 6 actually rooted to where I could replant them. But it did work. My problem was never getting it to root, but taking it to the next stage - from roots to planting it. That’s where I lost the battle many times - then one day - it worked. Unfortunately, I ended up moving in December and was so proud how much it had grown - I left them right where they were. So now my former landlord has two beautiful orange rose bushes from me. 😩. Well, I gave the 2 roses a beautiful life! But I proved to myself I can do it. Also, when I buy bouquets - I NEVER use the food packs they come with it - I just use plain water! Hope this helps! God bless you!
Hi Carolyn, Thank you for your thoughtful comment and congratulations on your success with the rose plant. You are among the few fortunate people to actually get a rose plant to grow from store-bought roses.
I haven't because I don't have a green thumb. But my Grandma did she rooted one of the roses from a valentines bouquet.
It can happen but is rare! I implore you to take a look at the video description as I go more into why there is a low chance for success. Thanks for watching!
It can be done. I have done it. But people tell me i have a green thumb because i can grow anything. Maybe it is because i start off Believing that i can. Yes..if you Believe you can do something you can do it!!!!!
Hi, Congrats on your success. However, the success rate is low for most store-bought roses. MOST, but not all florist flowers are treated with growth inhibitors. It's not absolutely impossible and can happen. Thanks for sharing your experience. Have a great day.
Yes it does work.
I tried several times and failed.
But on my 5th try it has worked.
Took 3 of wife's bouquet and cloned them. Got 6 cuttings a month ago and now has many leave and still healthy
Congrats!
Did you listen carefully to
My video?
I mentioned that it was possible but the odds are against a healthy rooting!
My video was in response to many videos teaching people use roses from a bouquet as a source of roses propagation. I replied that the BEst way to propagate roses is with a freshly cut stem from a healthy intact plant. It took you five times because it is not a reliable source for cuttings. Cuttings from live plants in the other hand, are much more reliable. I focus on successful techniques so that others are encouraged to propagate more!
Ohh I knew they were using some kind of hormone to stop growth 🤔
I wish they didn’t do that, it’s so nice to be able to grow a plant to remember the bunch of flowers you were given or used for a special occasion. Like for instance when my nan and aunts passed I tried to root one of the flowers we got for the funeral but nope didn’t work for me. I didn’t use rooting hormone though so maybe we will have to use a lot of rooting hormone to counteract the inhibitors they use.
Hi, Yes the hormone does help it to root. But unfortunately, you cannot propagate roses from a bouquet rose.
I’ve tried several times with a florist roses and have never had success. Stem cuttings are so much easier :).
Hello Beth! Thank you so much for watching my video and taking the time to comment. I hope you have a beautiful day!
I can. But i can also provide very specific conditions. Also, if you do not make your own soil mixes based on the plant needs and your locality, you will fail propagating anything. Also depends how long ago it was cut, and if they used agents to prolong bloom stability.
I agree. Thanks for commenting
It can be done. Go to the middle part of the rose stem. The stem should be stiffer. Cut it at an angle. Cut the end also. You need root food. Insert the stem end into the food. Take a pot with dirt and insert pen or pencil to make a hole. Put the stem in the pot. Put in more than one. Place some where warm or cover with Saran Wrap. I use my garage at night, day I put them out in the sun. You can keep them outside. Plant more than one stem. You can place in a larger pot after several weeks.
Keep trying. I love roses.
Hi, The success rate is low, but it is possible sometimes. Good luck!
So long as the cutting is alive no mater how far it traveled it is okay to root, success it more dependant on the right environment, soil and water conditions will increase your success by alot
Thank you for watching my video Alonso.
Yes, you may have some success on occasion but it is not the ideal cutting to use for rooting a new rose plant. Cuttings for any propagation should be as fresh as possible and not have been subjected to anti growth hormone treatments.
Thank you for commenting
Your skin is beautifully glowing!!!
Aww thanks!! 🥰
Depends on the rose. My mom had one that rooted in the vase so she planted it.
Hi, You are correct, it can definitely happen, but not very often. Sounds like you had some good luck!
Yes, you most certainly can!
Congrats on your success. It is not common but can be done. Thanks for watching.
This can't be right seeing as several people I know and including myself have managed to root from a bouquet, so....?
Thanks for commenting🙏 As I mentioned in the video it isn’t impossible to root cuttings from a rose stem that came from a florist bouquet, it is just likely you won’t be able to do so.
Roses in bouquets are already too old to be viable propagation material once you get them. If you are interested for extensive reasons why Please read my blurb.
As a gardening teacher it’s my job to share information that will give people successful steps for propagation and to explain why certain techniques like propagating from florist stems are much less likely to be successful. There are many videos that will encourage you to do certain things but they never explain the science behind why it will work or not work.
As you can see from my blurb, I don’t give my opinion, I just give the scientific facts so that people can become better gardeners and understand why things work or don’t work.
Thanks again for your comment. It’s exciting to know you were successful but please understand from a horticultural standpoint, it is the exception!!😊🌹
Thank you so much for all you do to help me do have the prettiest plants
Thank you so much, Debra! I truly appreciate your comment! I hope you have a gorgeous day!
Great video. Maybe if you use the root hormone right at the time from the shop before you put the bouquet into the vase. I love roses but I feel that they are a little harder for me to grow. Tried and failed many times. Maybe sometime I will try again. Have a great day.
Kim Paquette Hi Km if you use fresh cut roses stems You can have success. Please go watch my video on how to multiply roses from stem cuttings. Give it a try and let me know how it goes. Thanks for watching!
Im water propigating 3 i got for mothers day they are growing so far 😊 that is 3 out of 12 though
Glad you are finding success real determination will be if you’re routed cutting grows successfully as a bush that produces the same beautiful flower that was the source.
Thanks for watching and commenting
I miss your video, please always update, I really need it🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you so much for the motivation! I truly appreciate your support! Have a beautiful day!
I have so many of these right now. They look great and smell great but I buy cheap roses from Safeway and they seem to work fine
Safeway may not use growth inhibitors (or whoever they get their bouquet roses from ;) ) It's rare but possible! Thanks for watching my video!
I have done it one time. With a single rose from a convenience store. It was blind luck. I just put it in the ground next to another rose bush I had. It grew! I don't know why or how I did nothing special to get the result.
Hi Carl, Congrats on your success. It is rare but it can happen! Thanks for watching!
I love you so much and I love your high quality and unique videos
I appreciate that so much Laazizi!! Thanks for leaving such a nice comment!
Growing roses from cutting all depends on how you do it. I have done it many many many times growing from bouquets from different places.
Thanks for commenting Becky. I believe that there's a difference between being able to "Root" a florist bouquet stem and growing it into a mature rose plant that will bare the same rose as the original rose.
Rooting is possible, but as you say, you've "done it many, many, times." Rose plants that are propagated from florist bouquets are not varieties that have been bred to succeed in a common backyard.
Roses from florists come from "perfectly" created growing conditions in South American greenhouses or at elevations that are unique to the growers.These are NOTrose varieties that
will grow sucessfully in my Los Angeles or other random areas.
The growing conditions are almost impossible to recreate so "growing a rose plant" that lives and performs for years is almost unbeliveable. "Rooting" a florist stem might be possible, but I want to hear about mature plants that have been propagated this way that rival the health, vigor, and performance of a nursery-bought rose bush.
I disagree. I had success propagating a few I got from Frys marketplace. It occurs to me that you need to consider some cultivars might have patent protection so don’t get yourself in legal trouble by attempting to profit. :) good luck
It's not common, but it is possible! Congrats on your success.
Great presentation!👏👏👏 Now I know why I'm been trying with not results!
Hi Jorge! Glad you enjoyed my video and found it informative. Thanks for watching.
I’ve done it successfully.
That's good to hear. It's not impossible and anyone who wants to try it, should. It's just not the BEST propagation cutting and I believe people need to learn how to do it the right way
for best success
Very informative
Thanks for watching and commenting!
if there are no "buds" on the stem, nothing will come out of it.
when there are "buds" on the stem, it works like 50-50 from a florist bought flower. (local varieties i'd say, or for growing in pots)
Thanks for watching and commenting
I watched a video you posted from February 20, 2018 " How to grow roses from stem cuttings" where you showed how to propagate roses from a "florist bouquet" of flowers. I'm curious now as to what or why you changed your claim on what you said in that video that you could go grow roses from stem cuttings of floral bouquet? In that video you clearly proves that you did propagate roses from stem cuttings. So I'm confused🤔
Thanks for watching and for your question. I’m curious if you’re confusing my video with somebody else’s?
In the video where I show how to propagate or make a new rose plant, I take a cutting from an actual, living, rose plant that is planted in soil!
In this video, I say that you CAN’T successfully make a new rose plant buy taking a cutting from a “florist bouquet” or cut roses that are not attached to the parent plant.
Read the whole description info for this video. I explain the difference with great detail!!
I hope this clarifies things it’s not, ask again I’m here to help you understand.!
I propagate everything and I don’t see why roses wouldn’t work the same way everything else does
Roses can be propagated from cuttings. The focus of the video is why using stems from florist rose bouquets Are not as successful as using Stem cuttings from a rosebush in the garden.
If you’re interested in my reason please read the video description I go into much detail
This monday or tuesday I found a little sprout that had came out. I searched it to see where it came from and it actually came from a dead rose petal that I was using for fertilizer and am not sure how but am really happy its there.
That's awesome Josie!! 😁
Green thumb clear to your shoulder my mom would say!
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Thanks for watching and sharing your hearts Paula!
Hmm strange. I've grown roses from shop cut roses 🤔 definitely not every stem took and also I didn't use routing hormone and I waited till the flower heads were done
Thanks for watching and for your feedback!
G'Day Shirlly,While i'm patient,never had i even had a florist cutting strike,just one root,NEVER,Seem to able to strike most other things Never for florist cuts,
Now am i going to give up,,well NO,,,,Just might get one eventually,,have tried 100's of over sea rose seeds and had one germinate only to die shortly after,,why Don't know,now i live in auz,most of the time i blame the bloody heat,but have since found by floating cutting in a little water seem to stop dehydration,,but takes longer to fix roots,as the plant take in water but are not forming roots,one example is a red hydrangea,,had cutting in for 6 months and while the top of the plant was shooting when i thought time to transplant,,cutting had no roots,so while i solved the over heating prob,,i have indeed created other probs,,but not giving up,,still breathing ,,so still trying,
Hi Ian. Thanks for sharing your experience. You are patient! I wish I could suggest something for your hydrangea....I will have to think it through. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@EdenMakers Yep me again,,not for you to worry about hydrangea,,do have lots of success with them,,just thought i would share this particular episode,,is all,,as you seed from over sea's,,just a waste of money in my opinion,you have no idea on whats in the bag,,,Strawberry's ,green ,red,blue, yellow,,,all i got up was a throw back to original breed,,small red and bitter,
@@ianwilliams487 Thank you so much for sharing with me!
I tried several times to plant from a bouquet.. no success. Rooting inhibitors.. that's probably why they all died
Hi! Yes that is probably why. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience.
Hi Shirley, my name is Sergio and I was able to grow a long stem flower that bloomed that had four flowers. I got it from Home Depot and I know that it can regrow I just don’t know if I should cut it at the bass or just leave it and it should grow on its own?
Do you mean that you used a rose from a bouquet from Home Depot to make a new rose plant? And this rose plant has four flowers on them?
If this is what you meant, you can cut the roses and put them in a vase and more roses will grow from the rose bush.
My mum has grown numerous bushes from a bouquet, I have had no luck though
Hi, Angie, Congrats on your mom's success. However, the success rate is low for most store-bought roses. MOST, but not all florist flowers are treated with growth inhibitors. It's not absolutely impossible and can happen. Thanks for sharing your experience. Have a great day.
It can be done as long as protocols are followed. The same set of rules apply to cloning from plant meristem cells such as for orchids. The entire rose plant must be sterilized in 100ppm hypochlorous acid. The flower head removed and the lower stem cut at a diagonal. It is then dipped into a hypochlorous solution acidified with citric acid for 10mins. The media for planting is made from a 10% agarose gel mixed with cloning media either from sigma Aldrich or you can make from your own which contains glucose, gibberellic acid, indolebutyric acid, cytokinins, trace metals and nitrogen that you can get from miracle grow at a diluted concentration. You can also add 0.1N of Silver thiosulfate to the gel media which reduces bacterial growth and inhibits ethylene gas absorption. The media, when hot, is poured into a glass container that has been autoclaved. One the gel sets, the treated rose stems are planted into the media. A piece of plastic wrap or film is placed on top to reduce contamination and moisture loss and places out of direct sun. We placed ours under blue/red led light and kept temp at 78f. Within three weeks the first roots should start to form. The key is to keep everything sterilized.
Thanks for all your information. I agree with your propagation protocols (which and can be adjusted for the consumer level) using fresh rose stem cuttings, rooting hormone powder, sterile planting medium, seedling mat, and grow lights. I understand that agarose gel from Sigma Aldrich is available to labs and educational institutions but not the home gardener. I hope the core message that I am trying to relay is not lost on you as you seem to have a plant biology background.
My issue is that a rose stem from a florist bouquet is not the ideal source for successful cloning. Most wholesale cut roses have traveled across the world and are at least 7-10 days out from the time they were cut, treated with inhibitors, subjected to fluctuating cold and warm temperatures before they ever reach the end-user!
My second issue is that the florist rose is usually a very peculiar cultivar that will grow and perform under specific commercial growing conditions- elevation, temperature, climate, and other cultural and care demands in order to flower as the original florist rose. The home gardener can't supply adequate growing conditions for most commercial cut flower cultivars. So, while the florist rose stem may root, that doesn't guarantee it will grow, thrive, and perform in a random home garden.
I have more details for my argument in my video information if you care to take a look~ Thanks for your time.
@@EdenMakers oh yes absolutely; these roses have been pampered in the hot house. Once it roots, it cannot be placed outside without heavy treatment with pesticides and fungicide. This will have to remain in the greenhouse like they are grown in Ecuador. But if any one who wishes to try, can do it but it would be an involved process. You can get agarose from Amazon btw, but just make sure you sterilized. It’s used as a food additive.
Thank you I really appreciate your follow up.
As a gardening teacher my intention with this video was to debunk popular but unsound propagation methods that only frustrate the beginner Gardener. Fresh stem cuttings are best and i stand by that! Thanks 🙏
@@EdenMakers just to follow up, an easier way to propagate them would be to graft them, which I did on to Fortuniana rootstock. I had one bloom and just like their commercial counter part, had no scent. I just decided to get Earth Angel live plant instead and they smell heavenly!
@@Blue_Azure101 Congrats on your success Shocklett.
I tried with a florist rose but i had no success sadly.
Oh, no Sarah! I am sorry to hear that! Please don't give up!! I am here to help you along the way when you decide to try again. :D
Same here
Awww...I’m gonna give it a shot. But I’m thinking it won’t work. My roses a dyed blue. Very beautiful but I’m sure the nutrients aren’t there anymore. 🥺
Thanks for watching. Let me know how it goes!
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One of my family grew a rose from a bouquet and it grow
It's possible (albeit a low chance), depending on if the bouquet was treated with growth inhibitors or not. Congrats on their success!
Such a great video!🥰
Incorporating what others have done/said you can do, (thru trial & error your self, you've probably come across the same issues.)
The important thing to note here, is try and see if you can find out HOW the plants your buying are being shipped, grown, etc, as well as taking into consideration the science behind why/how any kind of plant you're trying to propagate, grows, with just the basics of knowing how to do so, you should be able to just stick'em into some dirt/water and they'll grow. If you're using water propagation method- not all plants will propagate in water- so check UA-cam or Google before just tossing them into a cup of water.
I for one, can't get a succulent other than a cactus, to propagate in water without getting all squishy & water logged, no matter how long I leave it to dry, PRIOR to putting it into water. Must just be me.
Now that this 'COVID Fear Program' has caused MANY plants to be grown and sold in the US, it's quite easy and I've done a few for my mom for Mothers Day this yr!
Buy a rose pot bush thingy and grow them from those cuttings!
They will grow and I've never had an issue with propagating them.
If you'd said, "you can't grow roses from cuttings" last yr when I was quite fed up with it- (and when I didnt understand the science behind the plant itself... ) then I might have believed you.
I don't know where YOU live, but I can tell you that if you're using water to propagating roses, I have a HUUUGE tip that'll blow your socks off NO MATTER WHERE you live. Ready for it?!
So when your supposed to be changing the water, hold off an extra 24 hrs.
Instead, take a spray bottle, turn the nozzle to 'STREAM' and stream the water itself, not the plant.
This will aerate the water and speed up the root growth- rather QUICKLY!
I'm contemplating making a quick couple minute video about showing what happens when you do this, so y'all can see the progress! I hope it catches on as it'll REALLY REALLY blow some of your minds! Especially if you already have a plant growing in water, (IE: kraky & DWC methods this works incredibly well! They eat it up!)
"I won't remember to do THAT! I can barely keep track of watering!"
I get it.. But here's a tip:
Place the plant in a window, closest to a place in your home where you either pass by, millions of times a day, like on your counter by the coffee pot, at YOUR place sitting at the table, [you'll wonder, 'WHY on Earth, is that plant sitting there? Oh yeah!'🤦♀️] but NEVER, EVER EVER, put your plants in your bathroom UNLESS it's a tropical plant. And even then, it's very 'iffy' as mold grows much easier in the bottom of plant pots in bathrooms. Just not the ideal environment.
Hi Aly. Thanks for watching my video and taking the time to comment _. You may have misinterpreted what I said in the video because I agree with your statement, __"Buy a rose pot bush thingy and grow them from those cuttings! They will grow and I've never had an issue with propagating them."_ _
Did you watch the whole video? I am referring to using store-bought CUT roses from BOUQUETS. The cut roses you buy at the market have been treated with "anti growth" hormones so that they don't sprout in transit. Sometimes you can get lucky and use one of these rose stems successfully to make a new plant but the odds are not in our favor. It's great that Covid gave you more time to garden- that is time well spent! Thanks again for watchingl
@@EdenMakers absolutely. I will admit, I just went back and rewatched it and yes, I did misinterpret what you said, although I was cooking with my Bluetooth speaker on, I guess the frying and sizzling noises must have cut out a few parts of your video on me.
Thanks for clarifying and I will be the first to admit, I made a mistake. Learning is an everyday task and an 'on your toes' kinda thing. (I do understand the in's and out's of the Marketing side of YT- as I had helped my son begin his channel, taught and coached him over Zoom & FB Video calls while he was at his fathers this summer. What fun THAT was😜) so I will Glady go back and edit my comment! Thanks again!💕
In love, light & peace, Aly
@@99thmonkeyresonance66 No worries Aly! We are only human 💕 and that's awesome you're helping out your son with his youtube channel! I hope you have a great weekend 🥰
Thanks for your comment and your exciting tips!
Love your videos Shirley!!🥰♥️
Thank you so much, JD Tan! I truly appreciate it!
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Have a blessed weekend!
I’m challenging and trying now will update you soon
That's great! Please propagate the roses in soil instead of water. Roots that grow in water medium are not the same as soil borne roots. Thanks.
I’m trying it lol I’ll share results hugs liked and subscribed
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Is plastic wrap good for keeping hubity?
Hi Caitlin, Yes it holds in heat and humidity well. Thanks for watching!
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Thank you so much for your videos, you inspired me to start gardening during the lock downs now I can’t get enough. Love your videos and tips so much 🌹
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Yes you can because there is still life in the stem.
It’s possible that one of these stems may root but since the stem was cut at least 2 weeks before propagating, it becomes less viable. Fresh cuttings are industry standard
I have one I cut and it's growing a new branch
Congratulations on your success. It is not common, but can be done. Thank you for watching!
@@EdenMakers thank you, it's some kind of variegated rose they're yellow with red tips but I don't think it's a circus rose.the new growh is very red and there are roots coming from the bottom of the cup.
I've tried dozens in water and they all failed but this one was just some rooting hormone into soil directly with a plastic bottle over it in the shade.
My question is it looks like there is new growth that wants to come out of the area between the old leaf coming off the stem and the main stalk. Should I take the old leaf off to get a new branch to grow? Because it's the same shape bud that sprouted the new branch it just never grew.
Great information. This video answered all the questions I had. I appreciate your knowledge and I appreciate you sharing that knowledge.
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Can’t roses reproduce 2 ways.Seeds (sexual) and cutting (asexual)
Alex Wongalong Yes that is correct! Those are two ways, seed and propagation! Cheers!
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Next do a video instead of grafting these florist roses cos very little chance in soil propogate
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Saw this video 10 days ago thought id try it now upon checking on the stem cuttings i noticed 3 are shooting out small buds... i guess its just a numbers game not all will root but some will..
That's great! You were one of the lucky ones! Remember, MOST, but not all florist flowers are treated with growth inhibitors. Thanks for sharing.
Challenge accepted! My son and his family brought the Missus a Mother's Day bouquet, and I will try to extend the celebration for the Missus!
R man Thanks for watching ! Please keep me posted on your progress. Good luck! Really!
Update: I checked the stems from my wife's Mother's Day roses today, and they are brown and dead. I pulled them out of the medium and the stems had no roots. Challenge FAIL!
I do have blueberry cuttings from last fall that have leaves! I'll call that a win!
@@rman8028 You win some you lose some! hehe :)
Nonsense - I just took what I thought were dead roses from a Mother’s Day bouquet to the composting bin and noticed ROOTS. I deadheaded them and brought them back indoors.
Thanks for watching the video and commenting.
I didn't say that it was impossible to root roses from florist roses, just that it is highly unlikely. As a gardening teacher, I teach how to be successful and best practices. If a random stem roots, that's great but doesn't change the fact that these are less than optimal cuttings for propagation
. As a matter of fact, even if the stem rooted in water, it is difficult for hydro roots to acclimate to a soil environment. This is true of all plants. Not impossible but not the best.
How is your rose plant doing from this successful cutting?
I have grown multiple bushes from bouquets. The only thing is they are not normally the color of the original 😬
Congrats on your success. It is not common but can be done. Thanks for watching.
You don't know what you're talking about or you're lying just for the sake of lying. Any rose grown from a cutting is the exact clone of the flower that was on the top of the stem originally. That's the reason for growing them from cuttings, to get the exact same flower.
Yes it’s true that a rose cutting is a clone . Commercial roses are treated with growth inhibitors and are not fresh specimens for mother stock material. By the time consumer gets them from florist, they will have been cut 8-10 days prior. You can try it but chances are slim
Maybe 70:1 Success rate? About 12 。C temperature maybe ?
That sounds about right!
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I am always trying to growing rose form cutting but always die i don't know why
What is the best month can i planting in it ?
And what about water how many time can i give water to my plant until give root .
My false is water
Choose a time when the rose bush is undergoing strong growth. The ideal time of year for this is late spring or early summer. It is possible to grow roses from cuttings when the weather is colder, but the process will take longer and your chances of success will be lower.
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@@berthaz2583 If your aloe vera pant has turned yellow, it is telling you that it is being watered improperly. So you should check the soil to see if it is still moist before it is being watered - which might mean that the watering needs to be slightly lessened.
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Thanks for watching and best of luck Shelby!
It is possible..
Hi Keerthi, Thanks for watching. Yes it is possible...you may get lucky here and there but this is not a tried and true way of propagating roses. There are growth inhibitor sprays that are routinely used on cut flowers. This is why so many people are disappointed when they try this.
Wrong I have I use roses from a funeral white flowers and reds , I re-cut the bottom stems, add little water to vase , put and a shaded window and cut the top flower leave any green leaves on stems just cut the flower 2-3 weeks later it begins to regrow
Hi Anthony. Thanks for watching and commenting. That's great news! I didn't say it CAN"T happen, but the chances are stacked against success because of the growth inhibitors sprayed on the roses! If a person wants success for sure, use a cutting from a garden rose.
@@EdenMakers I'd say the title of your video, as well as the description in the description box, absolutely does say "it CAN'T happen", so I'm not sure why you'd deny that.(see above comment) Many commenters here have told you that they've had success with rooting stem cuttings from bouquet roses, which begs the question... Why does the title of your video still say you can't?
@jlnriddick HI Thanks for watching and commenting. There are MANY reasons why the odds are stacked against one trying to root a commercial cut rose. When you see my explanation below, I hope you will appreciate the fact that accurate information is very important to me or I would not take the time to respond in such detail.
DISCLAIMER: When I refer to "commercial cut roses" or "florist roses" I am not referring to locally grown organic roses, or miniature roses that may have a greater chance of rooting success. For the most part, "Florist roses" are bred for specific performance and subjected to practices that don't contribute to success in the garden.
For accuracy, I mention around :35 - :38 that 'You may be able to root a florist rose but you would have to be very, very lucky and manage your expectations." I stand by that claim. I also say around 4:20 that "I am a person who likes to take chances so I would try to root a beautiful florist rose".
That said, the purpose of the video is to share solid reasons why you should not EXPECT this method of propagation to be successful.
I still encourage experimentation but as a teacher, it's my job to teach proper techniques and explain why certain experimental methods will generally not work.
I prefer to teach about successful methods over adventitious methods for rooting roses.
Beginning gardeners are more likely to stick with gardening and propagating when they have early success instead of failure which is common when trying to root commercial cut roses.
Sure, in nature, there are exceptions to the rule, and when a florist rose successfully roots, this is an exception!
In fact, when you use "proper" propagation techniques, even an experienced propagator may have only a 60 to 70% success rate, and that is considered good!
There are several reasons the odds are stacked against you when trying to root a cutting from a typical florist rose bouquet:
1, Rose cuttings root more successfully when they are "struck" or put in the soil within hours of cutting- preferably soon afterward.
The hormones or plant auxins are at their most potent level for creating roots, followed by new shoots and leaves.
- Most commercial cut roses are imported from South America, Africa, and other countries around the world. By the time they get to the wholesaler, then the retailer, then the consumer's hands, florist roses would have been cut anywhere from 5 to 8 days prior!
-Commercial cut roses are treated with different chemicals, (both natural and man-made) that inhibit rooting. This is done to secure a fresh rose throughout transport.
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Florists often remove all the leaves, and thorns, (that lay above the nodes) which are the growing points in rose stems. With no leaves, nodes, or damaged nodes, a rose cutting will not produce roots! Some people may try to root a commercial cut rose only to see lots of new leaves and some stems but NO ROOTS! (I hear this a lot).
2. Commercial cut roses are NOT bred to be successful and reliable "garden roses" for climates outside of their greenhouses or high altitude climates in Ecuador or another climate that is unique to them.
-In fact, many commercial roses have been grafted onto a rootstock that promotes tall, turgid stems, large flowers, glossy leaves in an "artificially managed environment"
These roses are bred to become "JUST A CUT ROSE!"
I compare many commercial cut roses to a movie set:
The sets are built to LOOK beautiful for a temporary display...These facades are not built with structural integrity or for people to actually LIVE in these fake buildings. They only need to stand as long as the cameras are rolling and when the director says "cut" the walls come tumbling down!
The purpose of commercial cut roses is similar...they just have to look amazing for a total of 15-20 days, which is the typical shelf life of a florist rose.
-Garden and landscape roses that we have in our yards are bred with the opposite goal in mind to function and produce roses for the long haul.
This is the best and most reliable source for cuttings and successful rose plants.
There are MANY more biological reasons why commercial cut rose stems are not optimal for rooting, but who has the time?
I have to go make dinner right now and feed my pups!! LOL!
Hopefully, this information will help you to understand the purpose of this video and why the title and description do not PROMOTE stem cuttings from commercial roses.
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