I remember first listening to Cecchele in Karajan's Cavalleria Rusticana (DVD) and being marveled by his voice. I looked him up and was surprised he is barely remembered, if at all! - while lesser singers from this era have gotten more recognition.
Funny how Rita Contino showed what NOT TO DO and WHAT TO DO in a single sentence singing Turandot. Notice the position of her mouth... When she smiles on the highest note in "il GRIIIIIIIIIItooooo", her voice is completely out of place, it becomes shrill and the high notes are screamed, but when she repositions her mouth in "in queeeeEEEEEEEEEEELLA MOOOORTEEEEE" , her treble is very rich in squillo, voice with chiaroscuro, girare, all the most beautiful and correct. She should keep the High B in the same place as the other grades, like Birgit Nilsson doesn't. And she had the technique for that, otherwise she wouldn't do it in the other notes. But just notice how a simple change in the position of the mouth changes the whole voice. Amazing, isn't it?! Edit: She had a coordinated chest voice on "le enigme sono TRE"... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA' PERFECT! I didn't know this soprano, I'll hear more from her. I stand by what I said about changing the embouchure on some highs. The "smile" KILLS the projection. Always keep the O shape as much as possible in the highs. Edit 2: That scandalous BRAVA at the end... HAHAHAHAHA' Brazilians being Brazilians. I confess that we really scream. We couldn't contain emotions. HAHA' This montage was at my beloved Theatro Municipal do Rio de Janeiro.
Hai ragione. La sua voce e' bellissima e potente . L'interpretazione e' elegante ed emozionante. Ovviamente migliore del "baritono" Domingo (come tutti i baritoni :D). E secondo me migliore di Cappuccilli.
I was in the chorus for a performance of Aida in Toledo Ohio in 1982, with Ruben Dominguez as Radames. When he hit that line "Sacerdoti, io resto a te!" ... well, I never heard anything like it. At the Sitzprobe the entire room - orchestra, chorus, singers - broke into spontaneous applause. I can remember that sound even 40 years later - the very definition of "squillo." He was awesome.
I became aware of Giacomini just a couple of weeks ago here on UA-cam. There are a number of videos of him, some in which he is quite impressive. The only reason I can think of as to why he might have been overlooked is that perhaps his stage presence wasn't "movie star" quality.
All the singers shown in this video are wonderful. Today's singers are so overrated by the midia. Small voices with poor technique dominate the stage nowadays. And the public is now unaware of what true singing is about.
What makes these singers stand out is that they are doing real opera singing in the European tradition. We are in the process of inventing some new vocal expression, but it is not opera singing.
You clearly have a great ear for singers. I thought I remembered hearing Giuseppe Giacomini sing at the Met years ago; however, it was certainly not like that. His "Cielo e mar" was some of the most thrilling singing I have ever heard. Most of the other singers I have never heard (or heard of) before; however, I enjoyed the entire group. It was particularly nice to hear that baritone sing "Eri tu" so beautifully. And my God, that clip from "In questa raggia" was worth the cost of admission all by itself. Thank you for posting this.
Every singer on this clip was sensational. There are a few (VERY FEW) performing now that MAY match this type of singing....How I miss it. That's why I go back to old recordings; I want to hear what truly great singing is. Thanks again Afro Poli for these uploads 💙💙❤❤
One underrated diva is soprano Mary Costa, who was neglected by recording companies aside from her having sung Musetta on an early 60s RCA recording of LA BOHEME conducted by Leinsdorf. Mary had a great voice.
I thought I was on my way to a career in opera. I was told I had a powerful, magnificent tenor voice. I entered a competition and sang Vesti la giubba. My tutor told me it was the best singing he had ever heard outside an opera house. The verdict from the assessor was 'Somewhat operatic in tone'. I knew then I was on a hiding to nothing and that modern teachers had no idea what they were talking about. I despair of hearing a decent singer now.
You *might* have one or two. I will likely soon be having lessons with a certain teacher who was taught by Tom LoMonaco (not Jeremy Silver). I aim to get into opera when I have built the voice and the time is ripe. I am considering documenting the process over how many years it takes although I’m not sure that’s a good idea as the early stages may turn people away(?). Voice is tenor.
Pedro Lavirgen, Luis Lima, Franciso Araiza, Ermanno Mauro, Giorgio Casellato Lamberti, Giorgio Merighi, Alberto Cupido, Vasile Moldoveanu...etc etc etc
Franco Bordoni , era Bolognese , qui in " eri tu" , è stato un artista di classe. Un affascinante signore dalla figura elegante e dalla voce che conquistava l'animo .Grazie ad AfroPoli per la condivisione di queste grandi ed esaltanti esecuzioni.
Martanucci 👑 sang Calaf with Dimitrova👑 at Arena De Verona. I have the VCR tape they were both incredible . Dominguez was great as well.Thank you for posting. Arnold Bourbon Amaral
I heard Gianfranco Cecchele in Otello. A lifelong remembrance. Just after the first, flying, "chiaroscuro" phrase of Essultate everybody in the audience knew that this will be a most special evening.
@Bravo Luca Uh... no. That baritone you hear is NOT Sherrill Milnes on the first clip. On the Otello duet with Giacomini, you hear Milnes but by that time period, the vocal inflections had severely changed due to his vocal injury which killed his otherwise great voice.
Cecchele was definitely underrated he was much better than Domingo and Pavarotti for that matter, saw him quite a lot and he was very very Good. Giacomini got better with age, but he was in another Universe to the crap today, Martinucci I thought could be Hit and Miss but he looked the part, Bordoni, I saw in Zurich a small theatre but his voice rang out like a bell. excellent, Dominguez is new to me, very good I think, Contino and Tieppo are new to me, Excellent, Mori I heard a few times a fine tenor. all these Singers are better than anyone Today!
RITA CONTINO (born in 1947 in Montevideo, Uruguay) possessed an exceptional voice and a varied, large repertoire. Her roles included Gilda, Gulnara, Violetta, Marguerite (Faust), Musetta, Mimì, Desdemona, Eboli, Liù, Tosca, Madama Butterfly, Carmen, etc.
Entiendo que muchos esperan para una Turandot una voz más dramática, pero tuve la suerte de afrontar todos los desafíos que se me presentaron, desde una Gilda de Rigoletto hasta una Carmen de Bizet y pude resolverlos. Cariños a todos!!
Una sola parola su un grande MAESTRO !AFRO POLI!!!!!!! Quante voci ha risistrmato ed ha portato al successo !!! Infatti ascoltarlo cantare con orecchio attento seguendo l'impostazione la musicalità la respirazione tutto ne ha fatto di lui non solo un grande Artista ma un eccezionale ISEGNANTE di Canto.
Wonderful selection. Real treasures. Sometimes the best voices dont make in the world of "fame". That does not mean they were any less valuable in their contributions.
Most of these artists run circles around the ones of to day,there is no class nowadays,no deep learning as the old teachers had totally different approach,this is to my great regret,Rene 88 yrs a lover of Opera for most of my life
I am blown away by these singers, I am proud and glad I studied during their era, And last I went back to Europe I was thrown into the delicate approach in Dutch it is called Zwoel sort of light breathy and breezie. I came back to this country and my stepfather a man I never liked told me the truth, you sound so zwool it is disgusting. So I believed and thank goodness I listened and returned to my original way of singing daring and gutsy with the breath support needed especially when on the stage.I truly admit that most of today's singers do nothing for me. I remain cold and most often I feel sleepy.
For me, the most underrated singer of past is Franco Bonisolli. I know that he was quite famous back in 70-ies and I know that he had his issues later in his career but his voice was exceptional and he had a long career. I think he should be ranked with the world's best ever and he is unknown to a wider audience. 10 times more people know about Carreras for example
I’ve been hoarding Giacomini and Aragall. Once Giacomini came on my system while I had some friends over and conversation just died. Afterward, everyone was just “WHO is that?” I play folks who will listen pieces sung by people who were ‘second tier’ in the 40’s - 70’s and the responses usually are that it’s better than almost everything they’ve heard that’s contemporary.
Mmm… Giacomini was sensational! I know his singing as he’s older has gotten a bit of a wobble, but still better than any tenor I’ll hear at Houston Grand Opera nowadays.
Giacomini was surely not underrated. A truly magnificent singer who was much loved at Covent Garden, where I was lucky to see him in several roles. That Gioconda wowowow
Could anyone say me, please,What is necessary in order to get a good record contract or so?? I mean, it is quite obvious that Giacomini was a much much much much better tenor than Domingo... In fact, Giacomini was one of the greatest (Domingo, if compared, seems a total dilettante). I need to understand... Something escapes to me... It seems that since fifty years or so is more important promotion than ever before. I mean, in old times there was a logic relation between talent and Fame... As for today, It seems it is not like that anymore. In fact, any bad "product" could be sold as It was gold, and It is ok for anyone... How is It? What happens?? Thanks in avance
Well. When talking about raw material, GG was superior for sure. On the downside, he was very inconsistent. He did not always sing as heard in these clips and cracked often. He was shy, not very charismatic and not too good looking. He did not speak other languages than Italian. His sound could be monotonous. There you go. PD lacked a good B and C, but he was reliable (he sang a lot), musical, more interesting as an actor, fluent in at least 4 languages, he had the looks and knew how to play the media. And his voice simply recorded better. That’s a mix that is hard to beat in modern times. In the old days, the stage/voice came first. Today, it’s the recording studios and media presence. Just look at Kaufmann and the likes.
@@davidalbro2009 I didn't mean the singers themselves, I meant all the agents behind opera, such as.. Marketing, financial strategies - as in strategies to preserve singers' voices in able for them to make more performances and get more shows and revenues - and by consequence the appropriate singing school. Mine are just illations though, vague thoughts, I don't have serious or determing information to support this thesis.
Yeah, I know. But I think there are good examples of how problems in opera certainly arent exclusively the result of American influence. Perhaps a case could be make that the American machine IS the biggest factor with these problems in opera today.
@@davidalbro2009 totally agreed, I'm just saying America, as America is the biggest market and today's poor musical expressions have proved that money seems to be the main driver rather than art. Also, I have seen some exceptions in Italy, such as Angelo Villari (check him out), who have an old school approach and they are almost ignored. Saying that, I'm just a fan, I'm not from the industry so I can only base myself on assumptions.
Amazing. . Cecci a Correlli wannabe for sure what a Great group of Singers very traditional. It would be interesting as to who they studied how early and who did they admire. That first Baritone I could see his name on a 78 rpm if he lived then. (They all are so worthy of being on a 33 1/3 cast where you don’t pass up playing it due to a mediocre talent. What a Great ear for singers Thank you. You should put a Correlli o. To this. Ideo and see how good these guys are given the time they sang. Thank you what an enjoyable program.
Gianfranco Cechelle, NIcola Martinucci, Amedeo Zanbon, Flaviano Labo, Pedro Lavirgen, Giuseppe Giacomini, Francisco ortiz, Franco Bonisolli..., fantastic and underrated tenors, owershadowed by the screamer goat of the opera Placido domingo and others, really sad.
I'm not a big fan of Giacomini's overly thick, ingolata voice but if I had to choose between him and Domingo's cracks, I wouldn't even hesitate for a second. Generally I hardly ever listen to any of the tenors you mentioned but they were all better than Domingo. I'd add Aragall and Hadley to your list. :) Have a good day.
I have watched your videos and i knew most of the artists but some of them were new to me so thank you for that. I also have a few artists in mind that i think are underrated or completely unknown but not all are from 80s and 90s and i don't know if there are any videos of them singing. I do have audio in my archives though.
It would take to many words and to much place to make a comment about each of those great artists which all merit. So I limit myself to say how much astonishing I find this Turandot's duet with Rita Contino and Giorgio Tieppo.
barahona68 Thanks. Visconti is a funny case. He added distortion to all of his clips that he uploaded here and that he handed to Bongiovanni to publish... to make him sound bigger I guess. However, there are a few recordings that were published here without his control, and they sound pretty different.
Marco Antonio Saldaña. Mexican. First baritone of the Palace of Beautiful Arts in México City for more than 30 years. Sadly he never allowed his students to upload his recordings in YT. Passed a few years ago. Exceptional voice.
Rio de Janeiro en 1995, el escenario montado en el Apoteosis del Sambódromo. Una versión dirigida por Romano Gandolfi con un publico de más de 30.000 personas.
@@ritacontino6841 Grazie per la correzione. Lei è una Turandot stupenda! C'è un modo di contattarla? Sto scrivendo un nuovo libro sulla Turandot e mi piacerebbe fare un'intervista... Grazie ancora.
Dominguez was certainly underrated. Cecchele was good in his prime, but as with all the "Melocchi" style singers, who didn't train with Melocchi actually, they get into pressed phonation and some laryngeal depression. In particular Giacomini.
Thank you for giving credit to Rubén Domínguez, my deceased husband. He is included here with great ones.
He was wonderful.
Your comment was very touching. He was a marvelous singer and thank you for sharing him with us
A little video idea:
A small study of the reasons for the global degradation opera singing.
Wow the baritone was sensational
Decades of commercial recording have completely erased from the public mind how a real Italian tenor is supposed to sound.
Very true!
I work in opera house and I kow that the most famous singers are not always the best.
Franco Bordoni recently passed away on Feb 13,2020. RIP.
I remember first listening to Cecchele in Karajan's Cavalleria Rusticana (DVD) and being marveled by his voice. I looked him up and was surprised he is barely remembered, if at all! - while lesser singers from this era have gotten more recognition.
Funny how Rita Contino showed what NOT TO DO and WHAT TO DO in a single sentence singing Turandot. Notice the position of her mouth... When she smiles on the highest note in "il GRIIIIIIIIIItooooo", her voice is completely out of place, it becomes shrill and the high notes are screamed, but when she repositions her mouth in "in queeeeEEEEEEEEEEELLA MOOOORTEEEEE" , her treble is very rich in squillo, voice with chiaroscuro, girare, all the most beautiful and correct. She should keep the High B in the same place as the other grades, like Birgit Nilsson doesn't. And she had the technique for that, otherwise she wouldn't do it in the other notes. But just notice how a simple change in the position of the mouth changes the whole voice. Amazing, isn't it?!
Edit: She had a coordinated chest voice on "le enigme sono TRE"... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA' PERFECT! I didn't know this soprano, I'll hear more from her. I stand by what I said about changing the embouchure on some highs. The "smile" KILLS the projection. Always keep the O shape as much as possible in the highs.
Edit 2: That scandalous BRAVA at the end... HAHAHAHAHA' Brazilians being Brazilians. I confess that we really scream. We couldn't contain emotions. HAHA' This montage was at my beloved Theatro Municipal do Rio de Janeiro.
Reuben Dominguez what a beautiful man with a beautiful big voice. And sings Puccini. I’m in love with opera again.
I knew and like very much 3 of these, CECCHELE, GIUSEPPE GIACOMINI, and MARTINUCCI. Thank you so much for those new to me. Very exciting voices.
Il primo baritono è stupendo!
Se ne trovassero oggi.... Se penso al Conte Luna che ho "sentito" all'Arena...
Hai ragione. La sua voce e' bellissima e potente . L'interpretazione e' elegante ed emozionante. Ovviamente migliore del "baritono" Domingo (come tutti i baritoni :D). E secondo me migliore di Cappuccilli.
@@michelez3710 forse un po' troppo "misurato/ingessato", ma chissene.
Domingo non merita commenti.
I think baritone is the most mistreated string in the opera world... Even if it must be the most elegant one.
Purtroppo oggi la vera lirica è decaduta...non c'è più...i cantanti odierni non sono nemmeno l'ombra dei grandi del passato...
Riguardo all'Arena ,parla di Luca Salsi?
I was in the chorus for a performance of Aida in Toledo Ohio in 1982, with Ruben Dominguez as Radames. When he hit that line "Sacerdoti, io resto a te!" ... well, I never heard anything like it. At the Sitzprobe the entire room - orchestra, chorus, singers - broke into spontaneous applause. I can remember that sound even 40 years later - the very definition of "squillo." He was awesome.
I became aware of Giacomini just a couple of weeks ago here on UA-cam. There are a number of videos of him, some in which he is quite impressive. The only reason I can think of as to why he might have been overlooked is that perhaps his stage presence wasn't "movie star" quality.
All the singers shown in this video are wonderful. Today's singers are so overrated by the midia. Small voices with poor technique dominate the stage nowadays. And the public is now unaware of what true singing is about.
Hyperbolize much? Every generation of musical ignorati has proclaimed the same obituary.
H R H apparently, every generation has been correct.
@@brianlandrytenor According to the ignorati.
Today's baritones are really BAD!!! this voice is Opera!!! Arnold Bourbon Amaral
@@arnoldamaral7406 oh don't get me started. They started cloning voices similar to Leo Nucci and Placido Domingo
Mori is unbelievable! Also, Domínguez sounded so strong the sagrestano was almost inaudible, haha. Powerful singing!
Great Performance by any standard by first baritone, Bordoni. So Grand.
No me canso de escuchar a Giacommini. Extraordinario, fuera de serie, grandisimo.
What makes these singers stand out is that they are doing real opera singing in the European tradition. We are in the process of inventing some new vocal expression, but it is not opera singing.
@PolishViking very true haha
You clearly have a great ear for singers. I thought I remembered hearing Giuseppe Giacomini sing at the Met years ago; however, it was certainly not like that. His "Cielo e mar" was some of the most thrilling singing I have ever heard. Most of the other singers I have never heard (or heard of) before; however, I enjoyed the entire group. It was particularly nice to hear that baritone sing "Eri tu" so beautifully. And my God, that clip from "In questa raggia" was worth the cost of admission all by itself.
Thank you for posting this.
Giacomini was extremely inconsistent. When he was on, he was great.
Every singer on this clip was sensational. There are a few (VERY FEW) performing now that MAY match this type of singing....How I miss it. That's why I go back to old recordings; I want to hear what truly great singing is. Thanks again Afro Poli for these uploads 💙💙❤❤
One underrated diva is soprano Mary Costa, who was neglected by recording companies aside from her having sung Musetta on an early 60s RCA recording of LA BOHEME conducted by Leinsdorf. Mary had a great voice.
Giacomini che voce! 👏👏👏
I thought I was on my way to a career in opera. I was told I had a powerful, magnificent tenor voice. I entered a competition and sang Vesti la giubba. My tutor told me it was the best singing he had ever heard outside an opera house. The verdict from the assessor was 'Somewhat operatic in tone'. I knew then I was on a hiding to nothing and that modern teachers had no idea what they were talking about. I despair of hearing a decent singer now.
If you think fate has dealt you a false card - post a video of your self singing an aria.
You *might* have one or two. I will likely soon be having lessons with a certain teacher who was taught by Tom LoMonaco (not Jeremy Silver). I aim to get into opera when I have built the voice and the time is ripe. I am considering documenting the process over how many years it takes although I’m not sure that’s a good idea as the early stages may turn people away(?). Voice is tenor.
@@williamlewis4318 I bet your teacher's name is Craig Sirianni.
Pedro Lavirgen, Luis Lima, Franciso Araiza, Ermanno Mauro, Giorgio Casellato Lamberti, Giorgio Merighi, Alberto Cupido, Vasile Moldoveanu...etc etc etc
Franco Bordoni , era Bolognese , qui in " eri tu" , è stato un artista di classe. Un affascinante signore dalla figura elegante e dalla voce che conquistava l'animo .Grazie ad AfroPoli per la condivisione di queste grandi ed esaltanti esecuzioni.
Martanucci 👑 sang Calaf with Dimitrova👑 at Arena De Verona. I have the VCR tape they were both incredible . Dominguez was great as well.Thank you for posting. Arnold Bourbon Amaral
I heard Gianfranco Cecchele in Otello. A lifelong remembrance. Just after the first, flying, "chiaroscuro" phrase of Essultate everybody in the audience knew that this will be a most special evening.
That baritone though is #mood and what I aspire to be. Holy cow that golden lava sound!
That's certainly a good sound to aim for. Good luck! :)
@Bravo Luca Uh... no. That baritone you hear is NOT Sherrill Milnes on the first clip. On the Otello duet with Giacomini, you hear Milnes but by that time period, the vocal inflections had severely changed due to his vocal injury which killed his otherwise great voice.
Thank you so much!I discover a whole world of beaty beond all the wellknown popular singers! Thanks for that❤
Glad you enjoyed!
Grande Bordoni!
Giacomini rocks!
Cecchele was definitely underrated he was much better than Domingo and Pavarotti for that matter, saw him quite a lot and he was very very Good. Giacomini got better with age, but he was in another Universe to the crap today, Martinucci I thought could be Hit and Miss but he looked the part, Bordoni, I saw in Zurich a small theatre but his voice rang out like a bell. excellent, Dominguez is new to me, very good I think, Contino and Tieppo are new to me, Excellent, Mori I heard a few times a fine tenor. all these Singers are better than anyone Today!
RITA CONTINO (born in 1947 in Montevideo, Uruguay) possessed an exceptional voice and a varied, large repertoire. Her roles included Gilda, Gulnara, Violetta, Marguerite (Faust), Musetta, Mimì, Desdemona, Eboli, Liù, Tosca, Madama Butterfly, Carmen, etc.
Entiendo que muchos esperan para una Turandot una voz más dramática, pero tuve la suerte de afrontar todos los desafíos que se me presentaron, desde una Gilda de Rigoletto hasta una Carmen de Bizet y pude resolverlos. Cariños a todos!!
@@ritacontino6841 Dije precisamente eso.
Rita Contino una genia y aguante Argentina pa.
Rita es estupenda! Muchas gracias!
I can name an abundance of famous modern day howler/screamers who don't belong in the same room as this incredible selection of tenors.
Una sola parola su un grande MAESTRO
!AFRO POLI!!!!!!! Quante voci ha risistrmato ed ha portato al successo !!! Infatti ascoltarlo cantare con orecchio attento seguendo l'impostazione la musicalità la respirazione tutto ne ha fatto di lui non solo un grande Artista ma un eccezionale ISEGNANTE di Canto.
Wonderful selection. Real treasures. Sometimes the best voices dont make in the world of "fame". That does not mean they were any less valuable in their contributions.
@@LornaKellyZim Yes, or being famous is equal to good, take Netrebko as an example
Anna Netrebko the screamer vulgar singer
very good singing indeed, but where are the nuances in Martinucci's Radames, for example ?
very good singing indeed, but where are the nuances in Martinucci's Radames, for example ?
Most of these artists run circles around the ones of to day,there is no class nowadays,no deep learning as the old teachers had totally different approach,this is to my great regret,Rene 88 yrs a lover of Opera for most of my life
Of these, Cecchele is probably the most famous, studio-wise. He did a Turandot with Nilsson and a Cavarellia film.
I am blown away by these singers, I am proud and glad I studied during their era, And last I went back to Europe I was thrown into the delicate approach in Dutch it is called Zwoel sort of light breathy and breezie. I came back to this country and my stepfather a man I never liked told me the truth, you sound so zwool it is disgusting. So I believed and thank goodness I listened and returned to my original way of singing daring and gutsy with the breath support needed especially when on the stage.I truly admit that most of today's singers do nothing for me. I remain cold and most often I feel sleepy.
Giacomini, baby. Whew! 💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐
Rita Contino representando Latinoamerica, que genia, saludos de Argentina.
Brava??? Rita Contino????? L'OPERA A FINITO. IL PUBLICO L'UNICO CHE FA E GRIDARE A QUALCUNO. NO È CALCCO!!!!
For me, the most underrated singer of past is Franco Bonisolli. I know that he was quite famous back in 70-ies and I know that he had his issues later in his career but his voice was exceptional and he had a long career. I think he should be ranked with the world's best ever and he is unknown to a wider audience. 10 times more people know about Carreras for example
Ivan Dr That’s true...
Just want to point out that 4 of them were students of Marcello del Monaco
Grandes vozes, exepcionais interpretações. Um justo louvor à arte lirica.
Amazing
Careers and talent are two different animals.
I’ve been hoarding Giacomini and Aragall. Once Giacomini came on my system while I had some friends over and conversation just died. Afterward, everyone was just “WHO is that?”
I play folks who will listen pieces sung by people who were ‘second tier’ in the 40’s - 70’s and the responses usually are that it’s better than almost everything they’ve heard that’s contemporary.
Mmm… Giacomini was sensational! I know his singing as he’s older has gotten a bit of a wobble, but still better than any tenor I’ll hear at Houston Grand Opera nowadays.
Why would they have a tenor turn upstage to sing a high C?
Bordoni grandissimo!
Giacomini was surely not underrated. A truly magnificent singer who was much loved at Covent Garden, where I was lucky to see him in several roles. That Gioconda wowowow
In the final phrase “..un trono vicino al sol” I think you can hear how Mr Martinucci’s third testicle kicks in on the word “sol”!
Could anyone say me, please,What is necessary in order to get a good record contract or so?? I mean, it is quite obvious that Giacomini was a much much much much better tenor than Domingo... In fact, Giacomini was one of the greatest (Domingo, if compared, seems a total dilettante). I need to understand... Something escapes to me... It seems that since fifty years or so is more important promotion than ever before. I mean, in old times there was a logic relation between talent and Fame... As for today, It seems it is not like that anymore. In fact, any bad "product" could be sold as It was gold, and It is ok for anyone... How is It? What happens?? Thanks in avance
Well. When talking about raw material, GG was superior for sure. On the downside, he was very inconsistent. He did not always sing as heard in these clips and cracked often. He was shy, not very charismatic and not too good looking. He did not speak other languages than Italian. His sound could be monotonous. There you go. PD lacked a good B and C, but he was reliable (he sang a lot), musical, more interesting as an actor, fluent in at least 4 languages, he had the looks and knew how to play the media. And his voice simply recorded better. That’s a mix that is hard to beat in modern times. In the old days, the stage/voice came first. Today, it’s the recording studios and media presence. Just look at Kaufmann and the likes.
most of these are not underrated. they are names we heard all the time.
Cecchele is overrated. He had a wobble his whole career.
Shocking how these Singers almost forgotten...
Afro Poli- Thank you for the great job you do. Underrated, as you say, does not mean they are forgotten. They are not!
Gegham Grigorian was another great singer no one has ever heard of. I heard him in Tosca in Vienna, he brought the house down. Phenomenal voice.
OMG so Great! thank you very much for Sharing, bravoooooooooooooooooooooo.🤝👏
angelo mori impresionante!
Outstanding selection, appreciate your effort of celebrating those true voices, thank you!,
Il primo baritono voce molto bella ed esegue al meglio questa stupenda aria...
Bordoni è semplicemente magnifico!
I wish there were voices like these today! Did American marketing and singing school of opera ruined everything? for experts to debate.
American? Caballe, Domingo, Netrebko, Garanca...
@@davidalbro2009 I didn't mean the singers themselves, I meant all the agents behind opera, such as.. Marketing, financial strategies - as in strategies to preserve singers' voices in able for them to make more performances and get more shows and revenues - and by consequence the appropriate singing school.
Mine are just illations though, vague thoughts, I don't have serious or determing information to support this thesis.
Yeah, I know. But I think there are good examples of how problems in opera certainly arent exclusively the result of American influence. Perhaps a case could be make that the American machine IS the biggest factor with these problems in opera today.
@@davidalbro2009 totally agreed, I'm just saying America, as America is the biggest market and today's poor musical expressions have proved that money seems to be the main driver rather than art.
Also, I have seen some exceptions in Italy, such as Angelo Villari (check him out), who have an old school approach and they are almost ignored. Saying that, I'm just a fan, I'm not from the industry so I can only base myself on assumptions.
@@davidalbro2009 Caballé no.
Peccato l ultimo cantante ha rovinato il video
Giacomini waoooooooooh !!!
Amazing. . Cecci a Correlli wannabe for sure what a Great group of Singers very traditional. It would be interesting as to who they studied how early and who did they admire. That first Baritone I could see his name on a 78 rpm if he lived then. (They all are so worthy of being on a 33 1/3 cast where you don’t pass up playing it due to a mediocre talent. What a Great ear for singers Thank you. You should put a Correlli o. To this. Ideo and see how good these guys are given the time they sang. Thank you what an enjoyable program.
I saw Martinucci in Aida in the 80s and wondered why there were no recordings of him. Thank you for this beautiful trip down memory lane.
Lovely singing here, it’s still around. The late Giacomini, his memory a blessing.
Great singers and a great job bringing them here together!
Gianfranco Cechelle, NIcola Martinucci, Amedeo Zanbon, Flaviano Labo, Pedro Lavirgen, Giuseppe Giacomini, Francisco ortiz, Franco Bonisolli..., fantastic and underrated tenors, owershadowed by the screamer goat of the opera Placido domingo and others, really sad.
I'm not a big fan of Giacomini's overly thick, ingolata voice but if I had to choose between him and Domingo's cracks, I wouldn't even hesitate for a second. Generally I hardly ever listen to any of the tenors you mentioned but they were all better than Domingo. I'd add Aragall and Hadley to your list. :) Have a good day.
@@michelez3710 hear this recording of the young Giacomini and compared to the old: ua-cam.com/video/nWVLArT7ZeA/v-deo.html
Bruno Prevedi ua-cam.com/video/jh6_4nthTAs/v-deo.html
I have watched your videos and i knew most of the artists but some of them were new to me so thank you for that. I also have a few artists in mind that i think are underrated or completely unknown but not all are from 80s and 90s and i don't know if there are any videos of them singing. I do have audio in my archives though.
Bordoni is outstending!
That Turandot clip is AMAZING. People still sang like that so recently??
Li ho sentiti tutti dal vivo...tutti grandi
Una delle prime opere che ho visto è stata il Rigoletto con Bordoni. Grande, voce è gran temperamento
Ceehele sång this role with the great Birgit Nilsson.
It would take to many words and to much place to make a comment about each of those great artists which all merit.
So I limit myself to say how much astonishing I find this Turandot's duet with Rita Contino and Giorgio Tieppo.
Dominguez is absolutely incredible! So much core to his light voice, and he’s LOUD
I've tried and tried but I cannot find many recordings of him. That high A in E lucevan le stelle is incredibly squillante.
I once played a Tosca with him in New Orleans. Just wow...
Martinucci made my day!!! Qué poderío!
I heard Cecchele live in Otello, and it is among my best memories of all times.
Add tenors Veriano Luchetti, Vincenzo La Scola and Piero Visconti to the list. Thanks for your posts.
barahona68 Thanks. Visconti is a funny case. He added distortion to all of his clips that he uploaded here and that he handed to Bongiovanni to publish... to make him sound bigger I guess. However, there are a few recordings that were published here without his control, and they sound pretty different.
la scola. No.
What a great thing to see such great performances!
Benito Maresca!
All ALL of them gorgeous and ideal singers of their fach .
Momenti esaltanti,bellissimi,ma.........dove sono finiti.ricordi emozionanti e irripetibili. Conserviamo lì con passione.grazie
Bonisolli...Dvorsky
Rita Contino..wow!
Indeed!
Damn, Rita.
Gracias!! Jajaja,!
Where is Zancanaro?
Gostei muito. Obrigado por compartilhar
Martinucci! ❤️❤️❤️
This is amazing footage of such great opera singers.
Franco Bordoni-never heard of him-how stupid of me-he is simply GREAT !!!
Marco Antonio Saldaña. Mexican. First baritone of the Palace of Beautiful Arts in México City for more than 30 years.
Sadly he never allowed his students to upload his recordings in YT. Passed a few years ago. Exceptional voice.
❤️
Dominguez makes all other tenors in these arias sound feeble and wishy washy!
Thanks for the new post. What year is Contine and Tieppo and which theatre?
Bentley Corniche Rio de Janeiro 1993
Rio de Janeiro en 1995, el escenario montado en el Apoteosis del Sambódromo. Una versión dirigida por Romano Gandolfi con un publico de más de 30.000 personas.
@@ritacontino6841 Grazie per la correzione. Lei è una Turandot stupenda! C'è un modo di contattarla? Sto scrivendo un nuovo libro sulla Turandot e mi piacerebbe fare un'intervista... Grazie ancora.
Rita Contino Usted es maravilloso! Muchas gracias por la respuesta!
Dominguez was certainly underrated. Cecchele was good in his prime, but as with all the "Melocchi" style singers, who didn't train with Melocchi actually, they get into pressed phonation and some laryngeal depression. In particular Giacomini.
Never heard of this chap before great voice what ever happened to him
Giacomini is one of the best tenors I have ever heard. He is a favorite of my teacher's, as well.