She died in style even though she technically started the war, pulling that stunt with her Dragon last season! Remember that part where Aegon was announced to be King! Then she came bursting out with her dragon killing some people and threatening the Greens. RIP Rhaenys. You will be missed!
@@bear_eater254 yea she went left field in that moment 😕 When she fell down with her dragon 🐉 to die, she regret not finishing the job before the war. Back then she got the Greens shitting 💩 themselves, where she almost burned them to death 💀 She would have done the Blacks a favor. Rhaenyra would thank her, but still feel bad for Alicent and her family. Rhaenyra has a good heart ❤️ and wanted to stop the war more than anyone else.
I loved the episode. I think it was fantastic. I’m just a little disappointed with the writing. I don’t understand how they are sending dragons to war but they only sent one dragon! They have more dragons and the upper hand so why just send one?😢
My dog died unexpectedly this week. I watched last week's episode while cuddling with my dog, and watching this week's episode without her this week was already tough. But that scene and the looks exchanged between Rhaenys and Melys hit me so hard because I'd had that same moment with my dog earlier this week as she was dying.
I'm honestly not a big fan of this curse of Harrenhal nonsense. One , cause the lady is gunna be all cryptic about what the fuck she is and eating up runtime. Two, I know magic is a thing in this universe , but aside from Dragons and White Walkers......the idea of witches and what not are utterly boring to think about.
His impulsiveness to show everyone he was worthy to lead was his undoing. Those final words from Alicent telling him no one wants/expects you to do anything sent him over the edge.
He’s very childish in his behavior. Sits there mad he’s not being respected as king and then in the same sentence tells his council they are boring him. 😂
I don't understand people also sh*tting on Aegon, while every character in the show as well. He never asked for this, he never felt any love nor affection from his parents and he is trying so hard to prove himself as a king and a son. I really feel bad for his character.
seeing Aegon flying sunfyre without high valyrian(and just in general because he was really bad at it) reminded me of a college rich kid driving a sports car. i did like his relationship with him though it was very cute. also seeing the light die in meleys’ eyes was tuff i don’t think we’ve seen a dragon death that rough
also i know him and alicent were obviously having relations but them not being more careful was crazy. i was at a watch party and my friend called him “c*****pie cole”😭
The bond between dragons and their riders in this episode was beautiful. Meleys and Rhaenys, Sunfyre and Aegon... as beat up as he is, Sunfyre still curled protectively around Aegon. And the look Meleys gives, so heartwrenching.
aegon and rhaenys are both brave warriors. The fact that aegon charged a dragon 3 times bigger than sunfyre and survives than gets 2v1d from vhagar survives dragonfire and rides into battle again is wild aegon is way braver than the traitor aemond.
@@etc8217There’s a difference between bravery and recklessness. The brave know fear but they push past it. The reckless don’t know what they’re getting into, they’re not wise enough to be afraid. Rhaenys was brave. Aegon was reckless.
I loved how Rhaenys knew death was imminent- she led her hands go (letting go of control) from Meleys and allowed her death to continue. I did not want her to die, but it was beautiful how she chose to give it her all. She was the HOTD epitome of ride or die. ❤❤❤
Everyone comments that she should have run, but Rhaenys knew that if she fled and Rooks Rest fell, other lords would abandon Rhaenyra and her claim. She had no other duty but death and honor.
I genuinely think people complaining 1. do not understand the character, 2. do not understand the social mechanics of the show's world, 3. do not understand the conventions or mechanics of storytelling, and 4. actively choose to be miserable, honestly. There is also some overlap between people who think she was stupid for turning back, and those who are angry that she dipped without roasting Aegon's entire coronation. So idk if they even know what they wanted from her.
Well she's dead so she should have run, she accomplished nothing by turning back. Only ONE thing should have mattered to her but it didn't. Protecting Meleys; she lost the Blacks second best dragon. It was already stated that they would need Meleys and Caraxes to kill Vahgar. Her "honor" was more important than the Dance. She was too proud and failed her family, which is the point being made, she died needlessly. She also could have ended the dance before it began at the coronation, but again, her honor stopped her, and the realm will burn for it. She is just as responsible for the deaths going forward as everyone else, and maybe that is why she sacrificed herself. Honor for the sake of Honor is her vice, just like Ned. It is a troupe GRMM plays with a lot. That is what people wanted from her, sacrifice your honor for the greater good please! @joywagner979
@@robbie7557 but that's what happens when you go to war: sometimes you die. Sometimes you know you are going to die, or the chances are very good that you will die, but you need to fight the battle anyway. Rhaenys thought she had a decent chance of winning, or of at least disabling Vhagar to the point where the dragon would be taken out of the war entirely, even if she and Meleys also died. She had just watched Sunfyre and Aegon go down in what she might have assumed was a death spiral (an enormous win!) She took a calculated risk. If she had just ditched the fight, that would have also impacted Rhaenyra's reputation. Who wants to follow a queen whose fighters will just ditch a fight?! Especially since Rhaenys herself had been Told about this after the coronation event. Again, this is what people -- especially tactical fighters -- do in a war. Imagine if half of the Allied forces on D-Day figured, "well, we're probably going to die, so we should just get back on those ships and dip."
@@robbie7557 If she bailed on the fight, the Blacks lose all of their support. Nobody will support the Queen who failed to protect them. You lose a dragon and dragon rider, but, in the Black's eyes they struck down Aegon and Sunfyre, did some small damage to Vaghear, and showed all of their supporters that the support is real, they lost a dragon and family to defend them, if I was under Rheanerya, she would now have my full support. If Rhenys runs from the fight, she loses that support, because the queen I have allied to, can't protect me. Strategy.
@@joywagner979 She is not a soldier storming the beach, she is a nuclear weapon. Not the same thing. Sometimes the calculated risk is living to fight another day and not recklessly throwing your life and greatest deterrent away. At least in the books she gets caught out by both the brothers at the same time so it makes more sense why she died.
I don’t know why it matters that it’s CGI. I mean, have you never felt emotions watching animated media? Video games? Even with fictional books, why would you cry for words on a paper? Because of the story and meaning behind what’s being conveyed. Once the CGI isn’t terrible and actually looks like it’s there, why wouldn’t you feel for the dragons?
I'm wrecked 😭Leave those poor dragons out of it 😭 whyyyy??? I quit. I can't keep watching these amazing, magical beings forced to turn on each other and suffer all for the whims of useless aristocrats.
The scene was extremely well made and effective. Impressive episode and great example of how visual media can elevate the source material if done properly. Seeing the piles of ashes made the unjust and unfair hierarchy of power of the time more gut wrenching and explained why in GOT other families and lords were tired of Targarians and their dragons. And Rhaenys witnessed it and of sort accepted her fall. 😭😭❤️🩹💔
Her name was princess rhaenys of the house targaryen, she came to us from dragonstone. She was a dragon rider, a mother, a wife, she was brave, and wise, and beautiful. She had the blood of the dragon, but her fire has gone out. And we will never see her like again! I loved her and maleys!
I knew that everyone would be praising Rhaenys for her heroic scene, but i can't help but feel sorry for Aegon, such a tragic character. He never wanted any of this, was manipulated by his mother and grandfather. Hated by everyone except his Dragon, trying his best to prove himself but still fails at it. Tom's performance was brilliant as well
Lol... truth. Why read novels or watch movies if you can't immerse yourself in it. No need to be a killjoy because you're too evolved to feel what others feel.
@@RockoblockoI think it's less that he is at Harrenhall and more so that two episodes have spent a significant amount of time on him just chilling there having visions lol
@@briengakaplan-b1550I get your point bout Vhaegar’s war experience but she never fought other dragons before the dance though so it is interesting how she sneaks up on smaller dragons as big as she is
Alicent drank an abortion elixir and had the hot stones on her stomach like a heating pad for cramps, as the elixir had started the process and its painful.
Okay, I don’t feel like fully prosecuting this case, because this is stupid af, but it’s plan b, not an abortion. There is no way this woman knows she’s pregnant on this time scale. They explicitly state that the tea prevents unwanted pregnancies in season 1. If you have a problem with birth control as a concept in general I can’t help you. If you have a problem with Alicent being a hypocritical asshole, by all means go on ahead.
I knew meleys gets her head bit off but it's Sooooo much worse now that I know her and her rider and love them omg meleys crying out to Mom at last breath
I actually loved that they changed it up a bit she could have flown back to dragonstone after aegon fell but she chose to stay and fight and defend Rook's nest, that was the reason she was there in the first place and Cole's army was still there and still attacking
Because she could have actually won! I think in the books the story was told that she was doomed from the start with both dragons being there but because aemond in the show torched his brother thing were different maleys shredded the old bitches belly although being smaller and weaker
Did she really tho? Now there is one dragon left and he is on the enemy’s side. They would have had 1 left each if she chose to regroup. Just playing devils advocate
Going to miss Rhaenys going forward for sure, but at least she got a good death. Just wish her and Meleys would have landed on Cole somehow and took him out 😅
She had the best lines last week; she spoke some truth to Rhaenyra about what's coming. Rhaenyra tried to find a peaceful OUT of this war, but the Greens weren't interested summed up succinctly in with Alicent's "it's too late" as she realized that Viscerys never meant their son, Aegon. Rhaenys could have ended this all before it started by torching the lot of the Greens assembled at Aegon's coronation. She didn't because she's an honorable warrior, and not a cheap shot artist.
I liked when Aegon first sees Sunfyre in the pit and gives a a happy grin as Sunfyre touches his cheek , very sad tbough knowing what was coming next for the two of them ,
A lot of talk on Rhaenys but what stuck with me is brother-murderer and kingslayer aemond. He waited on purpose, not backing his own brother. Set him on fire on purpose. And then wanted to finish the job, but got interrupted and just walked away.
Daemon's confusion between reality and vision also highlights how difficult it must be for Haelena who has them more frequently. The realisation that what happened to Jaeherys was real and not a vision was acted out incredibly well by Phia
The way Rhaenys and Meleys looked into each others eyes is heart breaking and reminds me of the way we look into our pets eyes when they have to be euthanised 😭
People are saying she made a stupid decision and the writing is nonsense, when it was a pretty good tactical decision (and would have been better if she'd actually succeeded at taking Vhagar out!) and "characters making choices the audience wouldn't make, sometimes including choices that are genuinely stupid" is not the same as "nonsensical writing." I think the fan club, like many fan clubs, actively chooses to be miserable and people do not understand the mechanics of storytelling.
Taking Aegon and his dragon out of the war was huge! Of course, The queen who never was and Meleys are more valuable in a fight, but Aegon and Sunfyre are the symbols of team Green. Sunfyre is literally on their banners, and now he is out of the fight. And harming Vhagar is impressive, especially with the size difference. Meleys compared to Vhagar is almost the same as Sunfyre to Meleys.
@@vermamohil ahhh man I don’t wanna spoil it for yourself or others who may see this lol. I will say if you don’t mind spoilers then you can always go to Google. You’ll get all the answers there
Viserys' marriage to Alicent opens up a challenge to the line of succession that he had established. Rather than focusing on securing his own succession, he provides more than one option for a future heir. This was only ever going to divide the realm. He should have considered staying single, and backing his daughter's claim to the throne.
I agree and for a King that claims kept the peace for 80 years and wanted nothing but peace for the realm, he did cause ALL of this madness because he couldn't control himself. It really is mainly his fault. Not so wise after all...
Viserys only got his position due to the 2 heirs of the old king dying. I agree that he should have done more to secure Rhaenyra, but there's no chance in hell that staying single is the correct choice in this world. The only reason there was no war last time was respect for the most beloved Targaryen king and the fact that Viserys was male. The books are inspired by Medieval Europe, and they had the same mindset.
i lost it when sunfyre nudged aegon and how happy they seemed to see each other and be together. i cried constantly from that moment but when maelys looked back at rhaenys with sadness and acceptance my soul literally died holy shit ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Don’t get the hate to Aegon, he gets no love from his parents never taught to rule when he should have been, then gets given the crown because he’s told he’ll be killed otherwise, loses his son, his mother doesn’t even care, and then suffers so much physical injury.
She is not the queen who never was, she is the Queen of hearts, The Red Queen who sacrificed everything for the fate of her house. Long love Meleys and Red Queen Rhaenys. 🐉 👑 ❤️🔥
What a performance by eve best, I knew she was going to exceed our expectations but also break our hearts in the end. The show will not be the same without her now 😢
RIP Rhaenys, dying a true Dragon Rider's dəąth... You could see the difference in the training of the dragons... Aegon, Aemond only called for fire, Rhaenys called attacks, if she had the proper help (DAEMON/ Corlys) Vhaegar would've been the fallen one... Aemond won by luck, previous training of Vhaegar, without that, Rhaenys would've won...
I feel like Rhaenys decided to fight to death the moment Aemond roasted Aegon. She probably thought, “if he can do this even to his own brother my granddaughters stand no chance”. She died with honor it’s so sad her dragon will be paraded like a trophy…
Rhaenys and meleys was the most devastating thing I’ve seen on HOTD. Luke was tragic ? But the slow burn dragon death HURT 😭💔 10/10 episode tho my god. I’m still upset
@@l.c.7955 Rooks Rest is Said to be the smallest castle. I'd think he would stick out like hiding behind a tree lol. Idk just me I guess I think bc I like Rhaeyns & didn't want to see her go.
The battle at Rook's Rest was pretty epic in the book, but the show made it EPIC! They did Meleys and Rhaenys justice. That shot of realization that the end is here, flashing across Rhaenys' face as she falls... I am still shaking from that.. it was so powerful
When Rhaenys could've gotten away im like "I'm ok with this change" then she turned around im like "ok that's whats gotta happen I'm not ok but I'm ok with it ya know? Gotta be stakes
You're not alone, even as a book reader I wasn't prepared for it. I originally disliked her for the first couple of episodes in S1 but she quickly became my favorite character.
Mann i can’t lie i’ve never had a piece of Film have my heart and adrenaline pumping like the end of this episode did. Nearly a whole season and a half built up to this first major act and i’m LOVING IT. can’t wait to see what’s next if this was this crazy 🤯
@@naturistfredaegon was a dick to him, but he didnt deserve an attempted murder😭 aegon still had love for his brother in the first episode he called him his closest kin and aemond has no love for aegon. Allicent and viserys ruined them boys, atleast daemon’s parents raised him up right to love his brother
@@RockChick63174 you never had siblings lol my siblings did annoying stuff to me all the time and yet every single one of them would die for me and vice versa The worst thing aegon did to aemond from what we seen was what happened in the brothel and That doesn’t equate to trying to kill your brother wtf lmao Aegon literally allowed for aemond to be apart of his small council meetings something even viserys didnt do for daemon unless he had a position on the founcil
What was so fascinating to see in this episode was Vhagar's experience. That old granny really knows her stuff lol. While sneaking up on Meleys is something that everyone is talking about, for me it was the move where she first struck her nails into Meleys, held her in the air and then breathed fire straight into their (Meleys and Rhaenys) faces when both dragons first encountered each other. INSANE EPISODE. The "dance" of the dragons BEGINSSSSSSSSS.
In the main series sleeping on weirwood causes weird dreams (Jaime sleeps on a weirwood stump and has a similar crazy dream) so that explains Daemons dreams
A bit thankful that Princess Rhaenys’ death wasn’t as traumatized as I imagined. I was expecting she will be burned by Sunfyre and Vhagar together, showing Meleys had to match against two dragons, given the other one is as big as a small mountain. They showed that Meleys can take both dragons, one at a time.
When you think about it, Aegon is essentially trapped in a no win scenario. He knows full well Aemond tried to kill him. But he can't do a thing about it. If he orders Aemond's arrest, then Vhagar is off the field and the Blacks can easily storm KL and capture them. So he's trapped with the knowledge that his brother wants him dead and he can't do a thing about it.
@@vermamohil Don't worry, he deserves his book death much more than dying in a dragon fight. However him and Sunfyre are out of the war, so both sides lost a dragon.
As a dragon fan.. if I had been Rhaenys.. I'd have climbed my dragons neck and gone after the other dragon's eyes. Sorry Vagar... No more sight for you
I really think Rhaeny's chose to go out the way she did, as a warrior. Even if she ran away this battle, she would probably die in a different battle. She has to deal with the idea she killed her relative (which she doesn't know he survived) and believes kinslaying is no bueno. She's also lost both her son and daughter and probably doesn't want to face the possibility of losing her granddaughters to this war.
This is the highlight of my week!! I always love how you make me see details I wouldn't be able to see on my own. Another great breakdown, Paul!! You never disappoint 🤗
Rhaenys showed exactly why she would have made a great queen. It’s interesting how it has been so obvious that she is a better leader than Rhaenyra while it’s even more obvious that Aemond is better suited than Aegon.
Granny Vhagar being told not yet by Aemond proceeds to rest sleepy dragon. Loved when she makes her entrance like a terror that is coming from a distance then proceeding to fly over the forest like a ship flying slowly over the forest cause of her gigantic size
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ahhhh that one wasn't even veiled shade, you really hate that guy xD
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@@heavyspoilers I’m very sad lol and I know the worst is yet to come
For a big dragon, Vhaegar is super sneaky
He is the most experienced dragon as far as battles.
No frfr
@@apex0378557she
Yeah but that green skin probs made her stealthy right ontop of the trees
@@apex0378557 she*... Balerion was the only male dragon during the first conquest
RIP Rhaenys. The Queen that never was..
The Queen that should have been 😢
She died in style even though she technically started the war, pulling that stunt with her Dragon last season! Remember that part where Aegon was announced to be King! Then she came bursting out with her dragon killing some people and threatening the Greens. RIP Rhaenys. You will be missed!
@@supertrendymoneymaker0722That was the moment she should have ended everything, the whole Hightower family.
Was....set on fire
@@bear_eater254 yea she went left field in that moment 😕 When she fell down with her dragon 🐉 to die, she regret not finishing the job before the war. Back then she got the Greens shitting 💩 themselves, where she almost burned them to death 💀 She would have done the Blacks a favor. Rhaenyra would thank her, but still feel bad for Alicent and her family. Rhaenyra has a good heart ❤️ and wanted to stop the war more than anyone else.
Sunfyre is the cutest dragon and DID NOT deserve that. Literally sounds like a puppy
I knew it was coming and still whimpered
Sounds like a teenager dragon.
BROOO I THOUGHT THE SAME THING! It was pretty sad
i also feel bad for aegon bc hes just a stupid kid who wanted to prove his worth and he got cooked along with his dragon :/
@@jill1164he's not dead or the dragon
That little headbutt Sunfyre gave Aegon was so adorable 🥹🥺😩
😭😭😭😢 it was so cool
that little interaction made me like aegon for a bit!
@@forcecalibration924 I'm so sad 😞
@ennanne19 it definitely made me think of him differently for a sec 😭🥺🥹
No… He thought it was play time and messed up his own dragon.
Aemond bitching his older brother in a language Aegon can barely speak was funny as hell 😂
Right!!
But in reality, it doesn’t make any sense all the other lords or at least a smart ones would be trained in high valeryan and surely the maester ffs 😂
hehe 😂😂
The look Meleys gave Rhaenys before they turned around to attack was such a bittersweet moment 🥺
OMG, yes!! Also when Meleys was dying. 😭😭😭
That part got me 😢
Meleys death hurt the most
I loved the episode. I think it was fantastic. I’m just a little disappointed with the writing. I don’t understand how they are sending dragons to war but they only sent one dragon! They have more dragons and the upper hand so why just send one?😢
My dog died unexpectedly this week. I watched last week's episode while cuddling with my dog, and watching this week's episode without her this week was already tough. But that scene and the looks exchanged between Rhaenys and Melys hit me so hard because I'd had that same moment with my dog earlier this week as she was dying.
Rhaenys and her dragon Meleys, The Red Queen will always be remembered to be a tandem of fire and bravery😢
She was so brave
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Who?
She’ll also be remembered for killing a bunch of innocent peasants when she broke through the floor during Aegon’s coronation.
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Daemon refusing peas for fear of poison at dinner yet accepting mystery concoctions from the resident witch
didn't add up thought he would refuse it
Slept on comment, doesn't make sense?!
I think he’s desperate for sleep
I'm honestly not a big fan of this curse of Harrenhal nonsense. One , cause the lady is gunna be all cryptic about what the fuck she is and eating up runtime. Two, I know magic is a thing in this universe , but aside from Dragons and White Walkers......the idea of witches and what not are utterly boring to think about.
Dude won the castle so easily that he's complacent now ... and he has a death wish, maybe?
Rhaenys died like a brave Warrior Queen. I was struck how Aegon went into battle....basically intoxicated.
Drunk driving basically. Me and my husband were howling about it. As Aemond said, what an idiot
His impulsiveness to show everyone he was worthy to lead was his undoing. Those final words from Alicent telling him no one wants/expects you to do anything sent him over the edge.
He’s very childish in his behavior. Sits there mad he’s not being respected as king and then in the same sentence tells his council they are boring him. 😂
Do not drink and dragon
I don't understand people also sh*tting on Aegon, while every character in the show as well. He never asked for this, he never felt any love nor affection from his parents and he is trying so hard to prove himself as a king and a son. I really feel bad for his character.
Rhaneys went out like a G!! She knew she was fighting a loosing battle..
She was a MF soldier bro.
Losing* Sorry, I can't help myself 😅
Losing not “loosing”
@@apex0378557 went out on some gang shit
clearly, he meant losing grammar police. 🙄
seeing Aegon flying sunfyre without high valyrian(and just in general because he was really bad at it) reminded me of a college rich kid driving a sports car. i did like his relationship with him though it was very cute.
also seeing the light die in meleys’ eyes was tuff i don’t think we’ve seen a dragon death that rough
also i know him and alicent were obviously having relations but them not being more careful was crazy. i was at a watch party and my friend called him “c*****pie cole”😭
That cut me so deep that I screamed and now my throat hurts 🤣😭😭😭😭 So hard watching the dragons fight and the loss of Rhaenys 😭
Idk that dragon getting shredded in 1 bite last season was more brutal than a throat crunch/crash
@@michaeldeats328Visceral maybe?
@@michaeldeats328 The dragon and the kid shredded and eaten was more brutal, but this was sad as well yikes!
Having Rhaenera tell Jace the Song of Ice and Fire whilst the preparation for battle and the dragons flying gave me chills.
Same here, freaking goosebumps , such an amazing build up!!!! Loved that scene
The bond between dragons and their riders in this episode was beautiful. Meleys and Rhaenys, Sunfyre and Aegon... as beat up as he is, Sunfyre still curled protectively around Aegon. And the look Meleys gives, so heartwrenching.
To Rhaenys!
"The Queen that Should Have Been"
A real warrior who accepted her fate with strength and courage.
RIP Rhaenys 😭😭😭
aegon and rhaenys are both brave warriors. The fact that aegon charged a dragon 3 times bigger than sunfyre and survives than gets 2v1d from vhagar survives dragonfire and rides into battle again is wild aegon is way braver than the traitor aemond.
@@etc8217There’s a difference between bravery and recklessness. The brave know fear but they push past it. The reckless don’t know what they’re getting into, they’re not wise enough to be afraid.
Rhaenys was brave. Aegon was reckless.
I'm glad she's gone! Go Aemond!
@@AllyrionWW you gotta be trolling? So continuing to fight and win a dragon battle while crippled, burned and having broken bones is not brave???
Alicent: The Morning After Final Solution
Daemon: Trippin' balls non-stop
Rhaenys and Dragon: G.O.A.T.S.
King Aegon: Drunk Driving, not a good look
Are you going to copy and paste that everywhere?
@@detroitdiezel7856are you this snarky with every reply?
@@detroitdiezel7856 "A Lannister always pays their debts....and sometimes they also copy and paste."
Rhaenys and dragon : D.E.A.D
Aemond: casually attempting kinslaying
I loved how Rhaenys knew death was imminent- she led her hands go (letting go of control) from Meleys and allowed her death to continue. I did not want her to die, but it was beautiful how she chose to give it her all. She was the HOTD epitome of ride or die. ❤❤❤
Everyone comments that she should have run, but Rhaenys knew that if she fled and Rooks Rest fell, other lords would abandon Rhaenyra and her claim. She had no other duty but death and honor.
I genuinely think people complaining
1. do not understand the character,
2. do not understand the social mechanics of the show's world,
3. do not understand the conventions or mechanics of storytelling, and
4. actively choose to be miserable, honestly.
There is also some overlap between people who think she was stupid for turning back, and those who are angry that she dipped without roasting Aegon's entire coronation. So idk if they even know what they wanted from her.
Well she's dead so she should have run, she accomplished nothing by turning back. Only ONE thing should have mattered to her but it didn't. Protecting Meleys; she lost the Blacks second best dragon. It was already stated that they would need Meleys and Caraxes to kill Vahgar. Her "honor" was more important than the Dance. She was too proud and failed her family, which is the point being made, she died needlessly. She also could have ended the dance before it began at the coronation, but again, her honor stopped her, and the realm will burn for it. She is just as responsible for the deaths going forward as everyone else, and maybe that is why she sacrificed herself. Honor for the sake of Honor is her vice, just like Ned. It is a troupe GRMM plays with a lot. That is what people wanted from her, sacrifice your honor for the greater good please! @joywagner979
@@robbie7557 but that's what happens when you go to war: sometimes you die.
Sometimes you know you are going to die, or the chances are very good that you will die, but you need to fight the battle anyway.
Rhaenys thought she had a decent chance of winning, or of at least disabling Vhagar to the point where the dragon would be taken out of the war entirely, even if she and Meleys also died. She had just watched Sunfyre and Aegon go down in what she might have assumed was a death spiral (an enormous win!) She took a calculated risk.
If she had just ditched the fight, that would have also impacted Rhaenyra's reputation. Who wants to follow a queen whose fighters will just ditch a fight?! Especially since Rhaenys herself had been Told about this after the coronation event.
Again, this is what people -- especially tactical fighters -- do in a war. Imagine if half of the Allied forces on D-Day figured, "well, we're probably going to die, so we should just get back on those ships and dip."
@@robbie7557 If she bailed on the fight, the Blacks lose all of their support. Nobody will support the Queen who failed to protect them. You lose a dragon and dragon rider, but, in the Black's eyes they struck down Aegon and Sunfyre, did some small damage to Vaghear, and showed all of their supporters that the support is real, they lost a dragon and family to defend them, if I was under Rheanerya, she would now have my full support. If Rhenys runs from the fight, she loses that support, because the queen I have allied to, can't protect me. Strategy.
@@joywagner979 She is not a soldier storming the beach, she is a nuclear weapon. Not the same thing. Sometimes the calculated risk is living to fight another day and not recklessly throwing your life and greatest deterrent away. At least in the books she gets caught out by both the brothers at the same time so it makes more sense why she died.
Corlys will never recover from this…
Dudeeee poor guy man
He was lik one of the only ones to make it out alive😂
He does switch side later.
@@Rockoblockostop unnecessary spoilering.
@@RockoblockoTo be fair its pretty much Rhynears fault and only does so because she imprisons him and starts trying to execute a bunch of people
Rhaenys and Meleys 😭. And poor Sunfyre's screams 😢
Nah. RIP Meleys. Rhaenys was the stupidest woman to ride a dragon.
The way they showed both of them having a sweet moment with their dragons before mounting them 🥺
I’m not tearing up at a CGI dragon, you are
I can't stop crying
I think we both are 😭
It’s was the cutest thing and it’s fcking cgi 😂
I don’t know why it matters that it’s CGI. I mean, have you never felt emotions watching animated media? Video games?
Even with fictional books, why would you cry for words on a paper? Because of the story and meaning behind what’s being conveyed.
Once the CGI isn’t terrible and actually looks like it’s there, why wouldn’t you feel for the dragons?
I'm wrecked 😭Leave those poor dragons out of it 😭 whyyyy??? I quit. I can't keep watching these amazing, magical beings forced to turn on each other and suffer all for the whims of useless aristocrats.
You watch Rhaenys' heart break and then she dies. I was sobbing. I'm still sobbing.
Me too. 😢
Cry harder
It’s a damn tv show based on a damn book that never took place in real life!!!! Cmon man! Wake up!
🫂🫂
The scene was extremely well made and effective. Impressive episode and great example of how visual media can elevate the source material if done properly. Seeing the piles of ashes made the unjust and unfair hierarchy of power of the time more gut wrenching and explained why in GOT other families and lords were tired of Targarians and their dragons. And Rhaenys witnessed it and of sort accepted her fall. 😭😭❤️🩹💔
Her name was princess rhaenys of the house targaryen, she came to us from dragonstone. She was a dragon rider, a mother, a wife, she was brave, and wise, and beautiful. She had the blood of the dragon, but her fire has gone out. And we will never see her like again! I loved her and maleys!
Hear! Hear! Pouring out sip for Rhaenys 🫗❤
You forgot to mention how she killed countless innocent commoners.
Rhaenys, The Claw of Rhaenyra
She was also super inbred.
there's nothing I hate more than seeing a dying/dead dragon ugh my heart 💔
Felt so bad for Sunfyre😢 but screw Aegon and his immaturity he deserved his fate.
dont worry sunfyre heals and comes back stronger winning 2 more dragon battles.
@@etc8217that's if they put it in the show tho
This ain’t the show for you then
@@etc8217 is aegon dead or does he survive?
I knew that everyone would be praising Rhaenys for her heroic scene, but i can't help but feel sorry for Aegon, such a tragic character. He never wanted any of this, was manipulated by his mother and grandfather. Hated by everyone except his Dragon, trying his best to prove himself but still fails at it. Tom's performance was brilliant as well
If it makes you feel better it’s based in a book that never took place in real life. No one really got hurt. 😊
@@steelrain1313 thank you for clarifying, I thought it's based on real life history
@@minerva566 it has been an honor! 🫡
@@steelrain1313Thinking like that detracts from the joy you get from a fantasy book. Don’t do that.
Lol... truth. Why read novels or watch movies if you can't immerse yourself in it. No need to be a killjoy because you're too evolved to feel what others feel.
Great Great episode. I just wish Daemond didn't spend 2 episodes in harrenhall..
Yeah. But that’s how it is written. Can’t deviate too much. It would’ve been great if Caraxes was flown to battle, but that’s for a later date.
He literally spent most of the Dance at Harrenhal.
@@RockoblockoI think it's less that he is at Harrenhall and more so that two episodes have spent a significant amount of time on him just chilling there having visions lol
I agree I get they are Showing us how tormented Daemond really is. But 🥱🥱🥱🤪
If the show followed the book even more closely, he would have been in Harrenhal since last season
It’s absolutely insane how the largest dragon in the show has somehow snuck up on two people…..
Oldest dragon also, very experienced
Prolly crawled all through that smoke before ambush.
Vhaegar is dragon level 99 lol he is not new to dragon battles.
Vhaegar is female @@briengakaplan-b1550
@@briengakaplan-b1550I get your point bout Vhaegar’s war experience but she never fought other dragons before the dance though so it is interesting how she sneaks up on smaller dragons as big as she is
Alicent drank an abortion elixir and had the hot stones on her stomach like a heating pad for cramps, as the elixir had started the process and its painful.
I wonder if the seven are anti-abortion? In any case she’s going straight to hell.
Hopefully it dont work!
UA-cam is so dumb for deleting my pro life comment.
@@Rockoblocko Bro it’s a fantasy drama.
Keep that to yourself
Okay, I don’t feel like fully prosecuting this case, because this is stupid af, but it’s plan b, not an abortion. There is no way this woman knows she’s pregnant on this time scale. They explicitly state that the tea prevents unwanted pregnancies in season 1. If you have a problem with birth control as a concept in general I can’t help you. If you have a problem with Alicent being a hypocritical asshole, by all means go on ahead.
Knew it was coming but it still hurt😭
I knew meleys gets her head bit off but it's Sooooo much worse now that I know her and her rider and love them omg meleys crying out to Mom at last breath
@@danielhughes5932bro stop i need to calm down😭
Same!! Even tho I'm glad they stayed true to the books, part of me was still kind of hoping she made it out alive!
@@danielhughes5932wow well I hate that, gunna go hug myself trying to fall asleep
Same 😢
I actually loved that they changed it up a bit she could have flown back to dragonstone after aegon fell but she chose to stay and fight and defend Rook's nest, that was the reason she was there in the first place and Cole's army was still there and still attacking
Because she could have actually won! I think in the books the story was told that she was doomed from the start with both dragons being there but because aemond in the show torched his brother thing were different maleys shredded the old bitches belly although being smaller and weaker
I wish she turned back 😢
It was a stupid change it made her look like a suicidal idiot
Did she really tho? Now there is one dragon left and he is on the enemy’s side. They would have had 1 left each if she chose to regroup. Just playing devils advocate
Was that English?
Going to miss Rhaenys going forward for sure, but at least she got a good death. Just wish her and Meleys would have landed on Cole somehow and took him out 😅
If Cristan would have died this way, that would have been rewarding
Better death than Dany.
This is a tv show. She is alive and well.
She had the best lines last week; she spoke some truth to Rhaenyra about what's coming. Rhaenyra tried to find a peaceful OUT of this war, but the Greens weren't interested summed up succinctly in with Alicent's "it's too late" as she realized that Viscerys never meant their son, Aegon. Rhaenys could have ended this all before it started by torching the lot of the Greens assembled at Aegon's coronation. She didn't because she's an honorable warrior, and not a cheap shot artist.
😂
It’s so sad imagining sun sunfyre wandering alone abandoned looking for sheep to eat 😢. The way he poked aegon and smiled 😭😭😭
I liked when Aegon first sees Sunfyre in the pit and gives a a happy grin as Sunfyre touches his cheek , very sad tbough knowing what was coming next for the two of them ,
A lot of talk on Rhaenys but what stuck with me is brother-murderer and kingslayer aemond. He waited on purpose, not backing his own brother. Set him on fire on purpose. And then wanted to finish the job, but got interrupted and just walked away.
Yeah, good on him. 😂
Daemon's confusion between reality and vision also highlights how difficult it must be for Haelena who has them more frequently. The realisation that what happened to Jaeherys was real and not a vision was acted out incredibly well by Phia
The way Rhaenys and Meleys looked into each others eyes is heart breaking and reminds me of the way we look into our pets eyes when they have to be euthanised 😭
Rhaenys was a BOSS- She killed 1/2 of Coles army, dropped 2 dragons (the 2nd did get back up but, she still dropped it) by herself-RIP my Lady
I thought to myself, so you have chosen death, when she flew off. At least she has black hair now
People are saying she made a stupid decision and the writing is nonsense, when it was a pretty good tactical decision (and would have been better if she'd actually succeeded at taking Vhagar out!) and "characters making choices the audience wouldn't make, sometimes including choices that are genuinely stupid" is not the same as "nonsensical writing."
I think the fan club, like many fan clubs, actively chooses to be miserable and people do not understand the mechanics of storytelling.
Taking Aegon and his dragon out of the war was huge! Of course, The queen who never was and Meleys are more valuable in a fight, but Aegon and Sunfyre are the symbols of team Green. Sunfyre is literally on their banners, and now he is out of the fight.
And harming Vhagar is impressive, especially with the size difference. Meleys compared to Vhagar is almost the same as Sunfyre to Meleys.
Why do all of the characters you hate seem to live the longest? I'm looking at you Ser Criston Cole.
He will die tooo..wait
His time is coming soon…
Reflection of reality
Oh, his death is great. Not glorious at all.
He is an interesting character to watch like Tywin Lannister
Aemond really said fuck it we ball
The theme of the greens lol
He's the real Queen
And he totally took out his bro lol helluva way to get revenge for yrs of childhood teasing 😂
@@briengakaplan-b1550 the crazy thing is that aegon survives dragon fire comes back stronger and rides into battle outliving aemond lol.
@@etc8217 Thanks for the spoiling. Not everyone reads the books.🙄
That moment Meleys glances back at Rhaenys for one last look while gripped by Vhagar. I lost it! 😭💔
i can’t stop crying over that moment 😩😩😩
Get a grip!! Just know none of this is real or took place in real life. Get better
Your such a loser @@steelrain1313
@@steelrain1313 calm down! I know it's not real, I just have a lot of empathy for real and not real things. You get better with that attitude. 🙄😂
@@meganjohnson2322 i was just joking lol. I think a great evening date with you would be great though 🌹😌 going over top tier dragons 🐉
Nothing better than finishing the episode then getting the alert for the breakdown. Thanks Paul! PS: Rhaenys & Meleys are BAD A$$!!! 💪
You feel me!!! I finished watching the episode and I seen he posted this 2 minutes ago lol
Thank you, much appreciated
Facts it’s a ritual for me now after an episode gotta see my guy Paul. 🫡💯
Didn’t expect to see Rhaenys gone so soon but it’s the same way in the books. Long live the Queen that never was and the Red Queen
I actually didn't understand if aegon actually died or just injured??what happens in the books?? His dragon was breathing meeky atleast
@@vermamohil ahhh man I don’t wanna spoil it for yourself or others who may see this lol. I will say if you don’t mind spoilers then you can always go to Google. You’ll get all the answers there
10:46 Plan “Tea” made me literally laugh out loud 💀🤣
Oh my god, why did it take me seeing it written out to understand the joke? Hahahahaha 😂😂😂
@@karapluemer2531me too 😂😂
Viserys' marriage to Alicent opens up a challenge to the line of succession that he had established. Rather than focusing on securing his own succession, he provides more than one option for a future heir. This was only ever going to divide the realm. He should have considered staying single, and backing his daughter's claim to the throne.
I agree and for a King that claims kept the peace for 80 years and wanted nothing but peace for the realm, he did cause ALL of this madness because he couldn't control himself. It really is mainly his fault. Not so wise after all...
Viserys only got his position due to the 2 heirs of the old king dying. I agree that he should have done more to secure Rhaenyra, but there's no chance in hell that staying single is the correct choice in this world. The only reason there was no war last time was respect for the most beloved Targaryen king and the fact that Viserys was male. The books are inspired by Medieval Europe, and they had the same mindset.
Damn seeing how well they made this fight I can't to see Daemon V Aemond / Caraxes V Vhagar
@@Nishanth_mementomori waiting on that one too master vs his pupil - of sorts lol
Both gonna die right? @@briengakaplan-b1550
I don't think it's a coincidence that they had this little detail with Rhaneys securing herself on the saddle...foreshadowing?
i lost it when sunfyre nudged aegon and how happy they seemed to see each other and be together. i cried constantly from that moment but when maelys looked back at rhaenys with sadness and acceptance my soul literally died holy shit ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
First time in a decade I’ve actually seen amazing cgi fking awesome
Think of all the excited dungeons and dragons CGI artists who were excited to get their hands on House of the Dragon work!
I actually feel bad for Aegon. Sure he was a terrible brother but didn’t deserve to get incinerated by his brother.
@@rashonanderson9012 moral of the story - be nice to your siblings - they might try and incinerate you one day 😂
Don’t get the hate to Aegon, he gets no love from his parents never taught to rule when he should have been, then gets given the crown because he’s told he’ll be killed otherwise, loses his son, his mother doesn’t even care, and then suffers so much physical injury.
Is aegon dead?
@@vermamohil No, but he is badly hurt.
@@UncleRuckus2134 Dude, he is literally a rapist and a murderer...
Cole touched that soldier holding the banner and buddy dissolved like an alka seltzer pill
The Larys alicent conversation was a highlight too when they talk about accepting how brutal a road they're stuck on
Making my own reality -- Rhaenys lived and found Laenor in Essos. 🥺🥺 My Queen.
She never got the chance to find out he lives 😭
It’s stupid he should be dead.
I was hoping she’d realize it by Seasmoke never taking another rider….
She is not the queen who never was, she is the Queen of hearts, The Red Queen who sacrificed everything for the fate of her house. Long love Meleys and Red Queen Rhaenys. 🐉 👑 ❤️🔥
What a performance by eve best, I knew she was going to exceed our expectations but also break our hearts in the end. The show will not be the same without her now 😢
15:58 , im dead 💀💀💀
Aegon, channeling his inner cat, was awesome.
RIP Rhaenys, dying a true Dragon Rider's dəąth... You could see the difference in the training of the dragons... Aegon, Aemond only called for fire, Rhaenys called attacks, if she had the proper help (DAEMON/ Corlys) Vhaegar would've been the fallen one... Aemond won by luck, previous training of Vhaegar, without that, Rhaenys would've won...
I also loved that they brought back the Blackwood kid we saw in S1, showing how he is a grown man now, and he is ready to butcher more Brackens xD
I feel like Rhaenys decided to fight to death the moment Aemond roasted Aegon. She probably thought, “if he can do this even to his own brother my granddaughters stand no chance”.
She died with honor it’s so sad her dragon will be paraded like a trophy…
Ugh wow I didn’t think of it like this 🥺
U feel stupd
U feel stupd
Rhaenys and meleys was the most devastating thing I’ve seen on HOTD. Luke was tragic ? But the slow burn dragon death HURT 😭💔
10/10 episode tho my god. I’m still upset
I'm hoping she immediately died on impact. I imagine she is one of the ones who "don't burn." Like Dany.
RIP to the two Queens. Meleys was a stunning design and Rhaenys was an amazing character. Such a sacrifice.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR AEMON VS DAEMON. This dragon fight is EPIC!
Do you think they will save that for next season? Yes, that fight will be epic.
@@naturistfred100% next season. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s torwards the end of next season
@@larrymerriweather1456 no it wont be next season it will be in season 4. season 3 will be the battle of gullet and the honeywine battle.
@@naturistfred aemond vs daemon will be in season 4.
That battle happenes at the very end you still have to wait
The jump scare with Vhagar attack on Rhaenys omg. This episodes was so emotional & intense for me. The bravery of Rhaenys, the fallen Dragons :(
Really? I thought that was an obvious part,cuz where else could that big af dragon be 😂
@@l.c.7955 Rooks Rest is Said to be the smallest castle. I'd think he would stick out like hiding behind a tree lol. Idk just me I guess I think bc I like Rhaeyns & didn't want to see her go.
@@cleanbeautytv knew it was coming only because (if you read the book) it was inevitable.
The battle at Rook's Rest was pretty epic in the book, but the show made it EPIC! They did Meleys and Rhaenys justice. That shot of realization that the end is here, flashing across Rhaenys' face as she falls... I am still shaking from that.. it was so powerful
When Rhaenys could've gotten away im like "I'm ok with this change" then she turned around im like "ok that's whats gotta happen I'm not ok but I'm ok with it ya know? Gotta be stakes
Yeah I thought she was gonna go back home but she turned around and I knew it was over. 😢
Yes I wish she just kept flying away and regrouped with the others 😢
Yep I think was is to think that way . Great writing
I was sooo happy if they deviated from the books this time cuz u truly wanted to be surprise if she went back to dragonstone.
lol yeah some of the writing is non sensical but in order to have stakes you need you character to make moronic decisions.
I’m still physically shaken by Rhaenys’ death 😪😬
My daughter did too she broke down crying 😢 see sweet red die was heartbreaking 💔
You're not alone, even as a book reader I wasn't prepared for it. I originally disliked her for the first couple of episodes in S1 but she quickly became my favorite character.
Me too. And seeing the dragons die was all too much for me.
@@cleanbeautytvSame! I still feel absolutely ill over half an hour later. 😩😭
I'm pissed off because it's faking LAAAAAME and STUUUUPID
The Hawk Tuah clip caught me off guard, definitely got a laugh out of me 😅
Mann i can’t lie i’ve never had a piece of Film have my heart and adrenaline pumping like the end of this episode did. Nearly a whole season and a half built up to this first major act and i’m LOVING IT. can’t wait to see what’s next if this was this crazy 🤯
asmond was just getting pay back for pulling the curtain
Aemond hates Aegon and I don't blame him.
@@naturistfredaegon was a dick to him, but he didnt deserve an attempted murder😭
aegon still had love for his brother in the first episode he called him his closest kin and aemond has no love for aegon. Allicent and viserys ruined them boys, atleast daemon’s parents raised him up right to love his brother
@@The_Muncher2017yeah, that's not love, honey.
@@jaydenhope7012 don’t forget the pig dragon lol and probably numerous other things he did to piss him off but he really just wants the throne.
@@RockChick63174 you never had siblings lol my siblings did annoying stuff to me all the time and yet every single one of them would die for me and vice versa
The worst thing aegon did to aemond from what we seen was what happened in the brothel and That doesn’t equate to trying to kill your brother wtf lmao
Aegon literally allowed for aemond to be apart of his small council meetings something even viserys didnt do for daemon unless he had a position on the founcil
What was so fascinating to see in this episode was Vhagar's experience. That old granny really knows her stuff lol. While sneaking up on Meleys is something that everyone is talking about, for me it was the move where she first struck her nails into Meleys, held her in the air and then breathed fire straight into their (Meleys and Rhaenys) faces when both dragons first encountered each other. INSANE EPISODE. The "dance" of the dragons BEGINSSSSSSSSS.
In the main series sleeping on weirwood causes weird dreams (Jaime sleeps on a weirwood stump and has a similar crazy dream) so that explains Daemons dreams
Your jokes about Larris made my day!:)))
IM IN SHAMBLES RIGHT NOW G OMFG 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Dude this episode was amazing
Same. She was one of my faves 😢
I really think Aemond was trying to kill his brother
No shit Sherlock
what gave it away ?the dragon fire
@@Jordan-mq4wj😅😅😅
Lololol😂
Duhh..He straight up told his dragon to attack his brother.
Alicent had Viserys's dragon model fixed, only to break it again herself anyway. I can't help but feel like they were going for some depth, there
A bit thankful that Princess Rhaenys’ death wasn’t as traumatized as I imagined. I was expecting she will be burned by Sunfyre and Vhagar together, showing Meleys had to match against two dragons, given the other one is as big as a small mountain. They showed that Meleys can take both dragons, one at a time.
I feel like Aemond might have seen something on the dagger revealed by fire
When you think about it, Aegon is essentially trapped in a no win scenario. He knows full well Aemond tried to kill him. But he can't do a thing about it. If he orders Aemond's arrest, then Vhagar is off the field and the Blacks can easily storm KL and capture them. So he's trapped with the knowledge that his brother wants him dead and he can't do a thing about it.
Aegon lives after that???
@@vermamohil Don't worry, he deserves his book death much more than dying in a dragon fight. However him and Sunfyre are out of the war, so both sides lost a dragon.
@@gakeon963 so as of S2 E4--he survivez at least
@@vermamohil Yes, he wasn't killed during the fall. I think the book mentioned that sunfyre broke his fall, but i'm not fully sure about that.
How the hell did they hide vhagar in the bushes, no one saw him fly in?😭😭
Possibly night ops
Plus he was super far away, you saw they had to blow a chain of horns to give him/her the signal
Viewership is gonna go through THE ROOF after that battle. To the Queen that never was and the Red Queen, a toast of fire and blood ❤
I enjoy how you hold the book like a holy tome in these breakdowns.
RIP Rhaenys you were too good too noble too brave too wise for this world. 😢
Aegon II not able to speak High Valaryian is hilarious!
“I want make war” 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂
Right??? He sounded ridiculous!
Cole being salty because she denied him as a teen 😂😂 it's wild 💀
Who denied cole
@@vermamohil Rhaenyra? She chose the crown over being farmers with Cole.
@@gakeon963 that's exactly what I was referring to. Cole lust For some reason shocked that she would rather be a queen over running away with him. 😂
Poor Sunfire 😢
Sir Alfred is the Mole....he's sending notes to Cole
I have no respect for Aemond burning his king.
😂😂😂😂
He is a badass tho
This is the arguably the best episode so far and you can tell that the battles are going to be unbelievable going forward
RIP Rhenys and her girl. It was a sad death, she fought valiantly.
As a dragon fan.. if I had been Rhaenys.. I'd have climbed my dragons neck and gone after the other dragon's eyes. Sorry Vagar... No more sight for you
Hahaha you have to be an exceptional climber
@@nasilelelisselo2348 let's assume I rolled a 20. 😉
I really think Rhaeny's chose to go out the way she did, as a warrior. Even if she ran away this battle, she would probably die in a different battle. She has to deal with the idea she killed her relative (which she doesn't know he survived) and believes kinslaying is no bueno. She's also lost both her son and daughter and probably doesn't want to face the possibility of losing her granddaughters to this war.
Oscar was greener than summer grass. 😂
RIP, Rhaneys the Queen that SHOULD HAVE BEEN!!! This one broke my heart! Wow! 😥
All this talk about prophecy that didn’t amount to anything…I’m still bitter GOT S8.
Gotta say my favorite moment was definitely when Aegon and Sunfyre embraced each other.
It’s a heating pad, my love. For cramps.
You cen tell that bit was only going to be understood by women😅
Watching dragons fight is like watching puppies cry.
This is the highlight of my week!! I always love how you make me see details I wouldn't be able to see on my own. Another great breakdown, Paul!! You never disappoint 🤗
Rhaenys showed exactly why she would have made a great queen. It’s interesting how it has been so obvious that she is a better leader than Rhaenyra while it’s even more obvious that Aemond is better suited than Aegon.
I definitely shed tears over Rheanys, she went out like a real one 😢😢😢
Granny Vhagar being told not yet by Aemond proceeds to rest sleepy dragon.
Loved when she makes her entrance like a terror that is coming from a distance then proceeding to fly over the forest like a ship flying slowly over the forest cause of her gigantic size