Building this around Strategist helps with generating rockets with the new Titan Exotic Chest which I'm pretty sure buffs the damage of the sidearm, making a solid gameplay loop
Add in Buried Bloodline to give yourself devour, weaken + void overshields (from kills against weakened targets artifact), and you use the call for most things but pull out Buried to re-proc devour/heal yourself.
I've found that golden tricorn only cares about your super matching the weapon, so with a strand super, ANY powered ability will get you to x2, such as gunpowder gamble, withering blade, etc.
@@gamingoverlord8854 ty, I definitely do hope it gets patched, but you can have some silly uptime with the right setup. I imagine this applies to lightning surge too, or maybe even unbreakable as long as you have a strand super
@@Thanatos6669 Specifically separated teselation and osmosis to just be grenades, not super. Tricorns description mentions it cares about the ability matching the damage type of the weapon, which is what we were expecting to work. Doesn't say anything about matching super, it's likely just leftover behavior pre prismatic. Once it is fixed I have some pretty silly builds to try out, that don't involve running silk strike.
I love Slice + Vorpal on this thing with the new titan exotics. Pop your barricade, get 35% boost to rockets which works with The Call, then reduce the damage of any champ or yellow bar you shoot because slice, and extra 15% damage to them because vorpal. The synergy is just insane on that, must have for high tier content imo.
If you aren't a 1% player, Beacon Rounds is a good option- it's really good for a dad gamer. The thing that's really nice with Beacon Rounds is they let you get hits with little effort. It reminds me a bit about the "Money Ball" idea- it's not home runs that wins, but getting on base. Same thing with shots- getting hits is the thing that ultimately gets kills and procs a lot of other perks. With Beacon Rounds proc'd you don't really have to aim, and you will still get hits. This is really helpful in situations where missing is particularly costly, like you are being rushed by a lot of enemies, or when you are trying to make hits while under fire. BR also, once proc'd lets you use the the thing like a scout rifle, hitting targets across the map. I run BR/Desperate Measures for an easy proc'd damage buff, which you will have almost constant uptime with BR and high enemy density. Lastly, I've noticed that it seems to have a really high % of precision hits if you aim higher. I need to get it craftable or get a Beacon Rounds/Threadling roll to drop, as I think that could be pretty crazy. I had the zone perk on last night in the Pale Heart where strand kills cause threadlings, and it was ridiculous how many threadings I generated, and from a long way aways, very safe distant enemy clearing. I'd say the biggest downside with it, is it runs the risk of making you lazy with your aiming.
This weapon with Slice and the new Titan armor that makes barricades shoot rockets must be amazing. You sever targets and attack with increased DPS together.
Ive been running Lead from Gold and Desperate Measures with my Banner of War melee titan and holy shit this thing is amazing. Pretty much 100% uptime on a 30% buff that refreshes on kills with the weapon, and ammo never runs out.
I use beacon rounds and whatever else is needed. Once proc'd its basically a tracking rocket and you do not need to aim other than their general direction. Plus it gets a damage increase.
Crafted Enhanced Lead From Gold+ Enhanced One for All today. Looked up different god rolls people spoke of and I settled on it. I may have to give this a shot also though. Subsistence on a random roll was a pretty sweet perk too.
Lead from Gold + One for All has been my go to for endgame content like dungeons and raids. Once one for all is up yellow bars go poof. And thanks to Lead from Gold it’s essentially a primary.
I find it so strange that he talks up Demolitionist and Golden Tricorn (forcing Strand), when Desperate Measures is literally right there. Weaking Vortex grenades and Prismatic grenades are so strong on Warlock and loop seamlessly with Demo+Devour.
Homie forgot it has Desperate Measures. Practically a permanent 30% dmg buff and can activate with it stowed. Melee kills, grenade, or other weapon. Also can refresh so once full it stays until all ads are dead
@@mohbius2 other difference is that Golden requires ability type matching the weapon's type, and that DM is refreshable on any tier with just any kill. it's significantly more accessible than Tricorn and calling it worse Tricorn's a little disingenuous imo lol
@mohbius2 golden tricorn requires ability to match damage type, while desperate doesn't. Thats the trade off. Also i may be wrong, but tricorn you cant refresh with more kills, while desperate can.
@@mohbius2The best part about it is you can refresh the buff with weapon kills. With Tricorn you have to alternate weapon then ability or it falls off. Great if you always have an ability up or if you're sure that ability is going to get a kill. Just some of the main differences!
Did some of my own testing with Implosion Rounds and some mag options. Implosion rounds and/or blast radius/velocity appear to have no effect on damage dealt on Carl. Tested with two crafted exact copies (minus implosion rounds for tact mag on the second) and same light level (1990) and vorpal weapon. No damage changes between the two were seen. 2502 for impact and 11553 for the explosion. Hazardous Propulsion did bump those numbers at max hits with 3377 impact and 15596 explosion damage. Now, similar to Indebted Kindness. Magazine size can change your reserves. Numbers are gonna read “base/x3 reserves” Tactical Mag: 51/65 (51 no backup mag mod) Extended Mag: 48/61 Appended Mag: 44/56 Implosion Rounds: 47/60 (46 no backup mag mod)
my only problem with this weapon is that the new solar one from this episode looks even better with its perk pool, so as soon as that one is out, i might switch, which is fine because there are a lot of good exotics and other specials in the kinetic slot that i can combine with this
Clenching my asshole for the inevitable nerf. Rocket sidearms are SO strong right now there’s no reason to use any other specials. Everyone is using The Call and Indebted Kindness.
Would most likely involve a hit to their reserves if a nerf were to happen, since sidearms have such good ammo economy/reserves for their damage output that they can effectively substitute primaries. It's what makes them so good right now. Not that I of course would want any such nerf to happen.
@@ackers5861 honestly I’d rather a reserves nerf than a damage nerf, they’re in such a good spot right now damage-wise; strong enough to deal with majors from a distance, while shotguns still output more damage with the risk of needing to be close. They strike a nice medium between shotguns and snipers as a fantastic midrange major killer.
I just crafted one with both Enhanced Demolitionist and Desperate Measures, the latter because of easy activation and you have 4 four abilities for it (2 from light/darkness and 2 from prismatic). I am using Getaway Artist with Arc Soul and Stasis Turrents and Devour. So filling the battlefield of Stasis Turrents and using Arc Buddy. I am using Sunshot or Red Death Reformed whether Solo, otherwise with teammate I am using No Hesitation with Physic and Desperate Measures. In the Raid that you did show, you don't need to be the paramedic exclusively, the Stasis Turrents and Arc Buddy will help the team do crowd control and be safe and you can help the team with damage too.
the call and no hesitation are glued to my slots rn. no hesitation is just so good. Ran both of those in the new exotic mission and they carried me thru it
Slice is great on the combination blow prismatic hunter build, I just can’t figure out how to guarantee the severed enemy spawns a tangle. So far it feels like anything that dies in one shot while Slice is up does not spawn a tangle on kill.
This paired with a strand warlock and the new journal perk for tangles is probably the most fun I've had in a while adds appear and then disappear in the next second
Lead from Gold/Desperate Measures goes nuts. Rocket Sidearms proc ammo finder as a primary so you get lots of heavy, and desperate measures clears for me because you can proc it with it stowed, use it, and then stow it and keep the damage buff when you pull it back out. It also lasts 2x as long as AJ and gets full refreshed.
The only thing I don't understand about golden tricorn is it doesn't go to x2 on Prismatic unless you're super is also the same element of the gun. It should just work as long as your melee or grenade matches the element of your gun, not your super
Oh that’s what’s happening, for the life of me I could not get golden tricorn to work even though I was getting matching ability kills, it being tied to the super makes no sense
I use this with double special. So long as your power is a machine gun for when you’re unlucky with green bricks. The sidearm is good with nighthawk prismatic hunter using Still Hunt exotic sniper. Facet of bravery for unraveling rounds, allowing every kill to stealth. Grapple grenade also triggers facet of bravery, it counts as a powered melee when you get a melee kill. build will be even better when golden tricorn works with strand melee and grenade.
Have to say i think Desperate Measures is overlooked on this weapon. With double special you're alternating between weapons frequently and spamming abilities to control your ammo, so the fact that Desperate Measures can activate while stowed and from abilities means it probably has better uptime than One for All.
I think the only thing that'd stopping me from using this is how much I love still hunt, but even then the call has me considering building around double special
I never considered Golden Tricorm back in the day because I didn’t want to incorporate ability kills. However with our new prismatic builds with constant ability spam plus the constant easy kills with this gun… I’m just now realizing you could probably proc goldren tricorn essentially endlessly (reproc it after it runs out) just by using it normally. Especially with my prismatic getaway artist bleak watcher build. Using this as a primary your getting constant kills with it… while turrets are getting kills constantly also. Definitely crafting this when I get on tonight.
One thing to note with demolishionist is that when on rocket sidearms, it only gives 11% grenade energy instead of the 20%+ that other specials give. Still good but probably better on a primary or slow reloading special.
Slice with One for all or Golden Tricorn on hunter with Stylish Executioner is a BEAST! Slice right now is GOD TIER because not only are you causing the enemy to output less damage, you’re also applying a darkness debuff to enemies which synergies in sooo many ways with Prismatic
My go-to loadout on prismatic Titan has been this, caster frame ergo sum with telesto perk (still waiting for wolfpack rounds version to drop), Apex Predator and the Hazardous Propulsion chest exotic. Works great in both add clear and dps situations.
I got a hatchling substance roll and it's amazing for a threadling build. Getting headshots are pretty easy since it has such high aim assist due to it not being hit scan (I think). Plus never having to reload makes it perfect for just strolling around with devor occasionally shooting whatever your minions don't finish off. That gun lives in my primary slot and right now nothing is replacing it
I’ve been using slice and one for all on my warlock prismatic grenade spam build. The grenade recharge on that build is already so insane that I find slice provides more utility, especially given the fact that I use phoenix dive instead of rift for more uptime.
I ran my legendary campaing using it with a swarmers broodweaver and tesselation (bc of the catalyst) and it was a cakewalk. The call with demo generates nade energy like crazy and tesselation not only hits like a truck, but it also severs, produces threadlings (thread of rebirth), creates perched threadlings (weavers call), unravels AND refunds grenade energy all at the same time. Its a lot of fun
I've been using this with the new chest titan exotic, Hazardous Propulsion. The strategist and one for all combo has been nice to spam with thruster. OFA procs with one hit. A nice combo after getting max stacks is Exodus rocket, (proc rocket damage), then hit them with Dragon's Breath, and spam the Call with OFA. Melts majors and mini bosses.
I have a “beacon rounds+vorpal” perks and I think it’s incredible. Shots I should have missed tracked real well and damage has always been respectable. I paired that with “buried bloodline” and it carried me through the legendary campaign. I honestly can’t take them off. The heavy can be whatever you want.
Been using desperate measures and slice on liar’s prismatic hunter. Tricorn requires using mostly if not all strand abilities for what is only a slightly more powerful damage buff. Imo DM is better for prismatic since it doesn’t require matching elements. Also slice gives even more invis uptime, in addition to more survivability
I've been rocking this with the Enhanced Beacon Rounds and Desperate Measures with the new Titan Exotic, and Gjallarhorn. Build up the stacks for the Exotic chest, Air dodge, swap to GH fire a rocket then switch back to The call and unload and get all the extra damage bonuses.
I’m running that turret build using getaway artist, helion and devour so the roll I crafted was with slice (since I have phoenix dive basically all the time) and desperate measures (not golden tricorn because I’m using song of flame) For secondary i’m using buried bloodline, so I have sever and weaken on command whenever I want
The game counts it as a primary in terms of ammo drops. Using this with double special will result in the same amount of special bricks. Lead from gold helps with ammo economy too
Not sure if you found out yet, but it looks like you dont have to match the element of the gun with your ability damage, just your super has to match the gun if I've tested correctly, guessing its a bug due to not needing to worry about prismatic before.
Imo the best weapon composition for warlock prismatic build is The Call, No Hesitation and Microcosm with scavengers for it. The best load out I’ve used
Lately the one time I swap to an exotic weapon is when I run out of ammo on both heavy and special, just swap get one precision kill and spawn double bricks on the first kill and continue on.
Personally I like lead from gold + desperate measures the most. On Warlock you already have such high uptime on abilities, especially on prismatic, demo kinda seems worse than ability to use this weapon as a true primary, and desperate measures is pretty much permanent 30% dmg boost, not as high as golden tricorn, but also doesn't lock you into specific abilities and refreshes with every kill.
My first drop of this was Lead from Gold and Vorpal. I liked it enough to use for the entire legend campaign. I know when I get the pattern it will be better.
I'm finding it very difficult to drop this weapon. I want to use some of the new weapons, but I keep finding myself coming back to this. LFG and OFA has been absolutely smashing it for me!
Golden Tricorn does work on prismatic, but you have to have a matching super as well, which is probably still a bug, but having Needlestorm super equipped and using Arcane Spike melee does proc x2 Golden Tricorn
One for all is pretty good on titan together with rocket buff from hazardous propulsion, it shreds bosses. Although you need to ensure you don't get radiant as it conflicts with the rocket damage buff.
I first crafted a beacon hatchling roll which is good but my go to has been subsistence+vorpal. In salvations edge I was doing the center plates but I was also a lament strongholds user. That phalanx shield is a pain to deal with. For some reason laments anti-barrier just doesn't work great on it so I crafted that subsistence vorpal roll and its been my favorite. But now that we are out of contest and dont need me on strong holds I just use witherhoard.
Golden tricorn isnt neccesarily bugged, you just have to use a strand super when using prismatic. Not sure if this was intentional or not, but if you do have a strand super equipped, golden tricorn will proc off any grenade or melee kill regardless of the element of that ability. So yes, you are limited, but then again you're not limited to using only a strand melee or grenade to proc it when using prismatic. I think this might actually be the better compromise at the end of the day. I've crafted a demo/one4all and a demo/golden tricorn so far, and honestly, might have to craft a couple more lol, Im not sure I've unequipped it since getting it early into the campaign.
Lead from gold + 2x strand reserves gives 70 bullet total! (72 with 3x strand reserves) But not worth using 3. Better off with one extra reserves for heavy weapon.
Slice & Vorpal is crazy! Use your abilities to proc Slice, then hit them with Vorpal to do even more damage all while your abilities also do damage. . I haven't even craft it yet.
slice is so nice for making tangles and hunter/titan can activate it so easily. I've been running one for all but it feels unnecessary against anything other than majors. I haven't run into any non major enemies where the one for all reduces my shots to kill, and against those enemies I'm always using abilities to take out most of the health. I honestly might take vorpal for the free damage bonus when cleaning up high health enemies.
The part about not running an exotic I totally felt lol I have been running nothing but the call, no hesitation and pro memoria machine gun on my warlock build because it has just been that good
I love Golden Tricorn or Desperate Measures with Demo or Strategist for Strand Grapple Melee Builds myself. For pinnacle activities though lead from gold + vorpal is my go to for that passive damage and what seems like an unlimited flow of ammo with LFG.
i'm new at the game and was looking for op guns videos and somehow this video was showcasing the exact 2 guns i was rocking lol, i guess i'll just keep using them 😂
I would say, if played the right way, LFG (Lead from Gold) and OFA (One for All), would be your Indebted Kindness 2.0, since The Call can't get Voltshot because its a Strand Damage Weapon, and if anyone has not played Warlord's Ruin yet as well, but depending on your playstyle, there are so many good combos you can craft or get on The Call, especially if you're going for an "All-Out" Combo for Damage and abilities build, I would say Demo or Strategist (Demo for Class Ability), mixed with OFA or any DPS Increse perk for your Damage spot in the fourth column.
This one and the new auto from the Pale Heart are my favorite. The Auto Rifle even reminds me a bit of Hyperion weapons from Borderlands (visually). Bungie really made something interesting with these weapons and I like it.
Dude i have been LOOKING for your channel again. Unsubbed from a lot D2 creators for abbot a year but could not remember your name. Also totally didn't know tricorn was bugged, thought i was crazy for not seeing the x2. Thanks a million, great video!
using this with a enhanced incandescent enhanced heal clip lunas, hard launch, implosion, enhanced slice, enhanced desperate measures The Call and Gally and HOLY HELL is it amazing. lunas for adds then switch to the call with 3x desperate proc-ed for mini bosses and bosses and they drop like flies
I find this weapon is just glued to my hands on Warlock, anyone else?
so meta, all my homies love the call
Demo and hatchling swarmers build with devour. Unbeatable
YEP!
Glued on all my classes. I love it. Demo is SO clutch
Ye
Building this around Strategist helps with generating rockets with the new Titan Exotic Chest which I'm pretty sure buffs the damage of the sidearm, making a solid gameplay loop
It does
I've been using The Call and Eyes of Tomorrow with that exotic chest piece and it's awesome. Huge burst damage.
Add in Buried Bloodline to give yourself devour, weaken + void overshields (from kills against weakened targets artifact), and you use the call for most things but pull out Buried to re-proc devour/heal yourself.
@@Savage-Destinydoes buried bloodline get the buff? i assumed since it’s a bolt it doesn’t work
@@Savage-Destinydoes buried bloodline get the buff? i assumed since it’s a bolt it doesn’t work
I've found that golden tricorn only cares about your super matching the weapon, so with a strand super, ANY powered ability will get you to x2, such as gunpowder gamble, withering blade, etc.
Good to know, hopefully my comment puts yours a little higher
@@gamingoverlord8854 ty, I definitely do hope it gets patched, but you can have some silly uptime with the right setup. I imagine this applies to lightning surge too, or maybe even unbreakable as long as you have a strand super
@@ringerscheckmate7938 Pretty sure that's intended since that's what they've changed basically everything to
DUDES YESS
@@Thanatos6669 Specifically separated teselation and osmosis to just be grenades, not super. Tricorns description mentions it cares about the ability matching the damage type of the weapon, which is what we were expecting to work. Doesn't say anything about matching super, it's likely just leftover behavior pre prismatic.
Once it is fixed I have some pretty silly builds to try out, that don't involve running silk strike.
Combining this with no hesitation and just relying on super/power weapons for damage is peak synergy with the artifact mod (in team play)
The call, no hesitation, exotic heavy boutta be the go to loadout
Yes
That's my loadout right now lol. Pair them both with microcosm and it's basically the only setup you'll ever need lol
Besides the teammate healing you’re wasting your energy slot not running double special
No hesi is nice but I’ve still been using exotic primaries like gunshot or graviton cuz I swear their “nerf” was nonexistent
Until the heal clip incandescent rocket sidearm comes out. Then you can use a kinetic weapon.
I love Slice + Vorpal on this thing with the new titan exotics. Pop your barricade, get 35% boost to rockets which works with The Call, then reduce the damage of any champ or yellow bar you shoot because slice, and extra 15% damage to them because vorpal. The synergy is just insane on that, must have for high tier content imo.
This, but I'm running warlock and find it works great to pop a well and then reduce the champ/boss damage while my hellion ignites them to death.
I like this but I prefer thruster as it’s instant and still launches the rockets but that’s just me
that was the first roll I got, carried the campaign
I got this roll and it triggers stylish executioner on hunter. Very fun
This is the god roll
I've been running beacon since day one, it's nice just lazily waving the thing in the general direction of an an enemy and still getting the kill.
Same.
It’s nice but does seem like a waste compared to other stuff you can put on it.
If you aren't a 1% player, Beacon Rounds is a good option- it's really good for a dad gamer. The thing that's really nice with Beacon Rounds is they let you get hits with little effort. It reminds me a bit about the "Money Ball" idea- it's not home runs that wins, but getting on base. Same thing with shots- getting hits is the thing that ultimately gets kills and procs a lot of other perks. With Beacon Rounds proc'd you don't really have to aim, and you will still get hits. This is really helpful in situations where missing is particularly costly, like you are being rushed by a lot of enemies, or when you are trying to make hits while under fire. BR also, once proc'd lets you use the the thing like a scout rifle, hitting targets across the map. I run BR/Desperate Measures for an easy proc'd damage buff, which you will have almost constant uptime with BR and high enemy density.
Lastly, I've noticed that it seems to have a really high % of precision hits if you aim higher. I need to get it craftable or get a Beacon Rounds/Threadling roll to drop, as I think that could be pretty crazy. I had the zone perk on last night in the Pale Heart where strand kills cause threadlings, and it was ridiculous how many threadings I generated, and from a long way aways, very safe distant enemy clearing.
I'd say the biggest downside with it, is it runs the risk of making you lazy with your aiming.
This weapon with Slice and the new Titan armor that makes barricades shoot rockets must be amazing. You sever targets and attack with increased DPS together.
It is such a good combo. I can’t put it down. I’m running Hazardour Propulsion and The Call with slice and Vorpal. Way too much fun
@@titanicjack6744 Congrats! I am yet to run the campaign so lots to catch up. I hope I'll get that role and the new Titan exotic. Cheers.
Ive been running Lead from Gold and Desperate Measures with my Banner of War melee titan and holy shit this thing is amazing.
Pretty much 100% uptime on a 30% buff that refreshes on kills with the weapon, and ammo never runs out.
I use beacon rounds and whatever else is needed. Once proc'd its basically a tracking rocket and you do not need to aim other than their general direction. Plus it gets a damage increase.
Crafted Enhanced Lead From Gold+ Enhanced One for All today. Looked up different god rolls people spoke of and I settled on it. I may have to give this a shot also though.
Subsistence on a random roll was a pretty sweet perk too.
Lead from Gold + One for All has been my go to for endgame content like dungeons and raids. Once one for all is up yellow bars go poof. And thanks to Lead from Gold it’s essentially a primary.
As someone who was carried through the legendary campaign by this gun I can confirm it’s an amazing weapon
I love this so much compared to indebted kindness or whatever it’s called, bc it feels smooth and doesn’t kick me in the nuts every time I shoot it
I find it so strange that he talks up Demolitionist and Golden Tricorn (forcing Strand), when Desperate Measures is literally right there. Weaking Vortex grenades and Prismatic grenades are so strong on Warlock and loop seamlessly with Demo+Devour.
Homie forgot it has Desperate Measures. Practically a permanent 30% dmg buff and can activate with it stowed. Melee kills, grenade, or other weapon. Also can refresh so once full it stays until all ads are dead
desperate measures not just worse golden tricorn? only loss is you can have it up when its stowed
@@mohbius2 other difference is that Golden requires ability type matching the weapon's type, and that DM is refreshable on any tier with just any kill. it's significantly more accessible than Tricorn and calling it worse Tricorn's a little disingenuous imo lol
@@mohbius2 essentially, easier to proc as it gains stacks for grenade/ melee/ weapon kills of any kind with it stowed as well.
@mohbius2 golden tricorn requires ability to match damage type, while desperate doesn't. Thats the trade off. Also i may be wrong, but tricorn you cant refresh with more kills, while desperate can.
@@mohbius2The best part about it is you can refresh the buff with weapon kills. With Tricorn you have to alternate weapon then ability or it falls off. Great if you always have an ability up or if you're sure that ability is going to get a kill. Just some of the main differences!
Did some of my own testing with Implosion Rounds and some mag options.
Implosion rounds and/or blast radius/velocity appear to have no effect on damage dealt on Carl. Tested with two crafted exact copies (minus implosion rounds for tact mag on the second) and same light level (1990) and vorpal weapon. No damage changes between the two were seen. 2502 for impact and 11553 for the explosion. Hazardous Propulsion did bump those numbers at max hits with 3377 impact and 15596 explosion damage.
Now, similar to Indebted Kindness. Magazine size can change your reserves. Numbers are gonna read “base/x3 reserves”
Tactical Mag: 51/65 (51 no backup mag mod)
Extended Mag: 48/61
Appended Mag: 44/56
Implosion Rounds: 47/60 (46 no backup mag mod)
my only problem with this weapon is that the new solar one from this episode looks even better with its perk pool, so as soon as that one is out, i might switch, which is fine because there are a lot of good exotics and other specials in the kinetic slot that i can combine with this
I might just run double special with both of em lol
Just run both. I do that already with this and Buried Bloodline and it’s so fun
@@michaelrhernandez2428this is not practical
Run Both!
tricksleeve build using both of them at once inbound
demo is insane on this because it gives the special weapon% to grenade energy
Thank you I was wondering why it’s better on this vs most other weapons
I've heard people say it inherits the primary demo values because it's a sidearm
@@lukatosic09wrong
Demo still got that change a while ago so be aware of what grenade you’re using and its cooldown
@@Logangil515 idk, that's just what I heard. Tbh it seems like it isn't giving me a lot of energy so I'm not sure
Adrenaline junkie is incredible. Especially since you’re killing 2-3 enemies in one shot, it’s just run and gun and no thought.
Clenching my asshole for the inevitable nerf. Rocket sidearms are SO strong right now there’s no reason to use any other specials. Everyone is using The Call and Indebted Kindness.
Would most likely involve a hit to their reserves if a nerf were to happen, since sidearms have such good ammo economy/reserves for their damage output that they can effectively substitute primaries. It's what makes them so good right now. Not that I of course would want any such nerf to happen.
@@ackers5861 honestly I’d rather a reserves nerf than a damage nerf, they’re in such a good spot right now damage-wise; strong enough to deal with majors from a distance, while shotguns still output more damage with the risk of needing to be close. They strike a nice medium between shotguns and snipers as a fantastic midrange major killer.
I think since bungie is known to let us have our fun with this kind of stuff I imagine the nerf might come sometime after the solar one comes out
the new solar one is even better with heal clip and incan
I thought the same thing. I said this gun is just too good, they are going to Nerf it because I know they see everyone using it constantly.
I just crafted one with both Enhanced Demolitionist and Desperate Measures, the latter because of easy activation and you have 4 four abilities for it (2 from light/darkness and 2 from prismatic). I am using Getaway Artist with Arc Soul and Stasis Turrents and Devour. So filling the battlefield of Stasis Turrents and using Arc Buddy. I am using Sunshot or Red Death Reformed whether Solo, otherwise with teammate I am using No Hesitation with Physic and Desperate Measures.
In the Raid that you did show, you don't need to be the paramedic exclusively, the Stasis Turrents and Arc Buddy will help the team do crowd control and be safe and you can help the team with damage too.
So glad to see all these posts from you lately, one of my fav content creators and missed seeing your videos over the last several seasons.
the call and no hesitation are glued to my slots rn. no hesitation is just so good. Ran both of those in the new exotic mission and they carried me thru it
Slice is great on the combination blow prismatic hunter build, I just can’t figure out how to guarantee the severed enemy spawns a tangle.
So far it feels like anything that dies in one shot while Slice is up does not spawn a tangle on kill.
Grapple nade with melee spawns tangles for me
Me after droping the call : I'll never unequip you.
Breachlight appears in my inventory : I don't want to play with [the call] anymore.
This paired with a strand warlock and the new journal perk for tangles is probably the most fun I've had in a while adds appear and then disappear in the next second
Ehroar: “This is my new main weapon, I’m never taking it off this [insert] slot”
Ehroar the following season: *takes it off*
Lead from Gold/Desperate Measures goes nuts. Rocket Sidearms proc ammo finder as a primary so you get lots of heavy, and desperate measures clears for me because you can proc it with it stowed, use it, and then stow it and keep the damage buff when you pull it back out. It also lasts 2x as long as AJ and gets full refreshed.
The only thing I don't understand about golden tricorn is it doesn't go to x2 on Prismatic unless you're super is also the same element of the gun.
It should just work as long as your melee or grenade matches the element of your gun, not your super
Oh that’s what’s happening, for the life of me I could not get golden tricorn to work even though I was getting matching ability kills, it being tied to the super makes no sense
I use this with double special. So long as your power is a machine gun for when you’re unlucky with green bricks.
The sidearm is good with nighthawk prismatic hunter using Still Hunt exotic sniper. Facet of bravery for unraveling rounds, allowing every kill to stealth. Grapple grenade also triggers facet of bravery, it counts as a powered melee when you get a melee kill.
build will be even better when golden tricorn works with strand melee and grenade.
the getaway artist + stasis turret and devour combo is absolutely insane, i didnt even realize it worked like that😭
Have to say i think Desperate Measures is overlooked on this weapon. With double special you're alternating between weapons frequently and spamming abilities to control your ammo, so the fact that Desperate Measures can activate while stowed and from abilities means it probably has better uptime than One for All.
I think the only thing that'd stopping me from using this is how much I love still hunt, but even then the call has me considering building around double special
Honestly double special is the way to go. Especially with how much ammo drops now and specs that help you get more
I’d have to pry this from my hunter’s cold, dead hands after his final death
I never considered Golden Tricorm back in the day because I didn’t want to incorporate ability kills. However with our new prismatic builds with constant ability spam plus the constant easy kills with this gun… I’m just now realizing you could probably proc goldren tricorn essentially endlessly (reproc it after it runs out) just by using it normally. Especially with my prismatic getaway artist bleak watcher build. Using this as a primary your getting constant kills with it… while turrets are getting kills constantly also. Definitely crafting this when I get on tonight.
yea i used this throughout the entire legend campaign, got demo, hatchling. Absolutely love it.
Not to mention, the gun looks so clean.
It’s the unused vestian dynasty model with the longer “over-under” barrel(s).
Love it.
One thing to note with demolishionist is that when on rocket sidearms, it only gives 11% grenade energy instead of the 20%+ that other specials give. Still good but probably better on a primary or slow reloading special.
Buried blood line and the call putting in work. Never taking them off.
So glad you’re back. Get happy anytime I see a vid from you
Lead from gold and desperate measures is my gold roll tbh
the call and choir of one pairs so well if you've got the armor mods for it
Yeah…as soon as I got that first one I knew, we stepped into a war with the cabal
it feels like unlocking mountaintop back then and then spamming it on everything you do
Yes, exactly. This, No Hesitation and for me, Hullabaloo.
i have a subsistence one-for-all roll. Ravage through any group of enemies without ever needing to reload
Slice with One for all or Golden Tricorn on hunter with Stylish Executioner is a BEAST! Slice right now is GOD TIER because not only are you causing the enemy to output less damage, you’re also applying a darkness debuff to enemies which synergies in sooo many ways with Prismatic
My go-to loadout on prismatic Titan has been this, caster frame ergo sum with telesto perk (still waiting for wolfpack rounds version to drop), Apex Predator and the Hazardous Propulsion chest exotic. Works great in both add clear and dps situations.
Honestly, Pocket Rockets were super efficient during legendary campaign. Indebted Kindness and The Call never left my inventory.
I got a hatchling substance roll and it's amazing for a threadling build. Getting headshots are pretty easy since it has such high aim assist due to it not being hit scan (I think). Plus never having to reload makes it perfect for just strolling around with devor occasionally shooting whatever your minions don't finish off. That gun lives in my primary slot and right now nothing is replacing it
I’ve been using slice and one for all on my warlock prismatic grenade spam build. The grenade recharge on that build is already so insane that I find slice provides more utility, especially given the fact that I use phoenix dive instead of rift for more uptime.
Running this with slice and the prismatic hunter liar's combination blow build is amazing. Slice literally always active
I ran my legendary campaing using it with a swarmers broodweaver and tesselation (bc of the catalyst) and it was a cakewalk.
The call with demo generates nade energy like crazy and tesselation not only hits like a truck, but it also severs, produces threadlings (thread of rebirth), creates perched threadlings (weavers call), unravels AND refunds grenade energy all at the same time.
Its a lot of fun
I've been using this with the new chest titan exotic, Hazardous Propulsion. The strategist and one for all combo has been nice to spam with thruster. OFA procs with one hit. A nice combo after getting max stacks is Exodus rocket, (proc rocket damage), then hit them with Dragon's Breath, and spam the Call with OFA. Melts majors and mini bosses.
I have a “beacon rounds+vorpal” perks and I think it’s incredible. Shots I should have missed tracked real well and damage has always been respectable. I paired that with “buried bloodline” and it carried me through the legendary campaign. I honestly can’t take them off. The heavy can be whatever you want.
Been using desperate measures and slice on liar’s prismatic hunter. Tricorn requires using mostly if not all strand abilities for what is only a slightly more powerful damage buff. Imo DM is better for prismatic since it doesn’t require matching elements. Also slice gives even more invis uptime, in addition to more survivability
I've been rocking this with the Enhanced Beacon Rounds and Desperate Measures with the new Titan Exotic, and Gjallarhorn. Build up the stacks for the Exotic chest, Air dodge, swap to GH fire a rocket then switch back to The call and unload and get all the extra damage bonuses.
I love subsistance on it. You never have to reload as every kill reloads shots
You need your super to be strand in prismatic so golden tricorn works.
Same element as the weapon.
And I think you can use any melee and grenade but not sure.
I’m running that turret build using getaway artist, helion and devour so the roll I crafted was with slice (since I have phoenix dive basically all the time) and desperate measures (not golden tricorn because I’m using song of flame)
For secondary i’m using buried bloodline, so I have sever and weaken on command whenever I want
The game counts it as a primary in terms of ammo drops. Using this with double special will result in the same amount of special bricks. Lead from gold helps with ammo economy too
Until the solar one with incandescent comes out and you need to make a video on it saying it's broken
Everything's broken 🙄
@@jacob-2271this weapon is genuinely great
A stasis one with chill clip would be crazy
when is the solar pistol dropping?
@@Courtesyflush52 It will drop when either Echoes Act II or Act III releases
1:13 you even tired to heal the enemies, but they still didn't stand a chance 😃
when you hipfire with no hesitation it doesnt shoot the healing rounds unless a teammate is in your cross hair so it just acts like a normal auto
@@moldy47 he threw a healing grenade
@@perooo8526 mb
Desperate Measures is the play, especially on combination blow hunter. It's so easy to keep that 30% buff going.
Slice / Vorpal. Warlock prismatic. Phoenix dive get lava buddy, trigger slice. Sliced of fried gold. Whoop woop
Not sure if you found out yet, but it looks like you dont have to match the element of the gun with your ability damage, just your super has to match the gun if I've tested correctly, guessing its a bug due to not needing to worry about prismatic before.
Imo the best weapon composition for warlock prismatic build is The Call, No Hesitation and Microcosm with scavengers for it. The best load out I’ve used
The most annoying thing with this gun is that no one can decide what the god roll is. Every content creator has a different roll crafted
It’s One for All + Demo
or One for All + Lead depending on the build
I think that’s the best thing about it. It’s so dayum good.
Use Strategist if you are a Titan to help get that class ability ready for missiles from the new chest piece.
Lately the one time I swap to an exotic weapon is when I run out of ammo on both heavy and special, just swap get one precision kill and spawn double bricks on the first kill and continue on.
I love mine. I crafted one with Demo and Vorpal. I haven’t got an indebted kindness so I’m quite happy with this one
I'm glad you mentioned the pris strand ability bug with tricorn. Hope it's changed soon!
Personally I like lead from gold + desperate measures the most. On Warlock you already have such high uptime on abilities, especially on prismatic, demo kinda seems worse than ability to use this weapon as a true primary, and desperate measures is pretty much permanent 30% dmg boost, not as high as golden tricorn, but also doesn't lock you into specific abilities and refreshes with every kill.
My first drop of this was Lead from Gold and Vorpal. I liked it enough to use for the entire legend campaign. I know when I get the pattern it will be better.
I'm finding it very difficult to drop this weapon. I want to use some of the new weapons, but I keep finding myself coming back to this. LFG and OFA has been absolutely smashing it for me!
Golden Tricorn does work on prismatic, but you have to have a matching super as well, which is probably still a bug, but having Needlestorm super equipped and using Arcane Spike melee does proc x2 Golden Tricorn
In the legendary campaign, when they give you the weapon as a reward early on, i git demo/all for one, and it carried me so hard
One for all is pretty good on titan together with rocket buff from hazardous propulsion, it shreds bosses. Although you need to ensure you don't get radiant as it conflicts with the rocket damage buff.
I first crafted a beacon hatchling roll which is good but my go to has been subsistence+vorpal. In salvations edge I was doing the center plates but I was also a lament strongholds user. That phalanx shield is a pain to deal with. For some reason laments anti-barrier just doesn't work great on it so I crafted that subsistence vorpal roll and its been my favorite. But now that we are out of contest and dont need me on strong holds I just use witherhoard.
Golden tricorn isnt neccesarily bugged, you just have to use a strand super when using prismatic. Not sure if this was intentional or not, but if you do have a strand super equipped, golden tricorn will proc off any grenade or melee kill regardless of the element of that ability. So yes, you are limited, but then again you're not limited to using only a strand melee or grenade to proc it when using prismatic. I think this might actually be the better compromise at the end of the day. I've crafted a demo/one4all and a demo/golden tricorn so far, and honestly, might have to craft a couple more lol, Im not sure I've unequipped it since getting it early into the campaign.
Lead from gold + 2x strand reserves gives 70 bullet total! (72 with 3x strand reserves)
But not worth using 3. Better off with one extra reserves for heavy weapon.
This season with unstop sidearms makes it even better.
Slice & Vorpal is crazy! Use your abilities to proc Slice, then hit them with Vorpal to do even more damage all while your abilities also do damage. . I haven't even craft it yet.
slice is so nice for making tangles and hunter/titan can activate it so easily. I've been running one for all but it feels unnecessary against anything other than majors. I haven't run into any non major enemies where the one for all reduces my shots to kill, and against those enemies I'm always using abilities to take out most of the health. I honestly might take vorpal for the free damage bonus when cleaning up high health enemies.
My first one was Vorpal/Demolitionist. Helped me through the legendary campaign easily.
The part about not running an exotic I totally felt lol I have been running nothing but the call, no hesitation and pro memoria machine gun on my warlock build because it has just been that good
The Call the perfect Pitch and Microcosm has been CARRYING me with Battle Harmony and Apotheosis Exotic class item has been insane 😭😭
I built mine around Slice and Hatchling for my Hunter, I get so many Strand twister balls and threadlings I love this gun
I love Golden Tricorn or Desperate Measures with Demo or Strategist for Strand Grapple Melee Builds myself. For pinnacle activities though lead from gold + vorpal is my go to for that passive damage and what seems like an unlimited flow of ammo with LFG.
ive been running the call, no hesitation and thunderlord/dragons breath and it is so good! the origin perk for those guns is really crazy too
i'm new at the game and was looking for op guns videos and somehow this video was showcasing the exact 2 guns i was rocking lol, i guess i'll just keep using them 😂
This weapon is great and I’ve got a crafted enhanced roll but indebted kindness with voltshot is just glue to my fingers.
I would say, if played the right way, LFG (Lead from Gold) and OFA (One for All), would be your Indebted Kindness 2.0, since The Call can't get Voltshot because its a Strand Damage Weapon, and if anyone has not played Warlord's Ruin yet as well, but depending on your playstyle, there are so many good combos you can craft or get on The Call, especially if you're going for an "All-Out" Combo for Damage and abilities build, I would say Demo or Strategist (Demo for Class Ability), mixed with OFA or any DPS Increse perk for your Damage spot in the fourth column.
Beacon rounds and vorpal weapon are god tier...one shots red bars, 2 or 3 shots everything else....such a good sidearm
This one and the new auto from the Pale Heart are my favorite. The Auto Rifle even reminds me a bit of Hyperion weapons from Borderlands (visually).
Bungie really made something interesting with these weapons and I like it.
Desperate measures and lead from glold is just too good you can comfortably run double special.
Subsistence + all for one supremacy
First "The Call" I got had Lead from Gold and Vorpal, and I'm still using it! :) Love being able to swap to it for orange bars! :)
Dude i have been LOOKING for your channel again. Unsubbed from a lot D2 creators for abbot a year but could not remember your name. Also totally didn't know tricorn was bugged, thought i was crazy for not seeing the x2. Thanks a million, great video!
Carried me through the legendary campaign and I still use it for everything.
using this with a enhanced incandescent enhanced heal clip lunas, hard launch, implosion, enhanced slice, enhanced desperate measures The Call and Gally and HOLY HELL is it amazing. lunas for adds then switch to the call with 3x desperate proc-ed for mini bosses and bosses and they drop like flies