There's older pull-type sprayers that are far simpler in design. Older Summers for example for their hydraulic controls they have a joystick that mounts directly onto a mechanical hydraulic lever, use buttons to activate proper valve solenoids (left boom lift, right boom lift, vertical lift, etc) for quick adjustments. Money is probably the biggest thing... pulltypes are cheaper and can use a variety of tractors on a farm to use them. When those self-propelled machines start getting high hours (4000+) they can start to get hydro problems and such and can get expensive I'm thinking about getting a self-propelled machine sometime soon, to get a nice all-in-one package... but still concerned about upgrading since the pulltypes are much more simpler, that's what worries me about adding on more and more stuff for more things to go wrong. Good info and video!
This was a very detailed video! Maybe the pump intake is higher than the bottom as if there's debris in the tank it goes to the bottom rather than get pulled into the pump?
Custom Operator Here. Couple of things. I think one of the issue you had with tracks/ruts was because of tire pressure. I run a Hagie STS16 & even in wet conditions I might have sank in 1 in. Those items that separate particles from solution are called strainers, not filters. Those tank level sensors are a God Send. Yes, they can fail but that is very rare. The flow meter ones are OK but not nearly as accurate as the tank sensors. A major drawback from a pull-behind is because of the Poly Tanks. They never clean out well compared to a Stainless steel one. Lastly, it's very dangerous to only run water to "clean out" spray equipment. Especially when your doing multiple crops. I'd always recommend a chemical tank cleaner. $100 per cleaner is sure as hell cheaper that damaging an entire 1/4 because of a bad clean out. Great video though.
@@farmerjon360 the sprayer sinking into soil really depends on soil types. My friend never makes any tracks with his self propelled 3 hours away from where I live. Nobody goes without making tracks in my area. We haven’t had any issues cleaning this sprayer out. Have rinse balls in the top and they work very well, would rather have a 2400 gallon tank that’s poly than a 1200-1600 that’s stainless
The John Deere does not use a flow meter for tank level unless u put it on aftermarket. It’s a tank float same idea as what fast has except it works 😅 it uses a flow meter to count down your tank level
Just saw guidance system on Tripe R farms channel... it was two arms, one on each side of middle snout that guided combine thru down corn by sensing corn stalk... he said it worked great, especially in down corn.. would be something to demo for your channel..
Personally I would love to have a self propelled to desiccating canola or soybean would be less painful. Plus I could give the corn some juice when it's tasseling. But even an used one cost around 27.000 usd in my country. And those are close to 20 year old ones, that could have many or almost no problems.
I think I am going with the self propelled. I will able to kill the crabgrass in my suburban yard in no time. May be nice and even hit the nieghbors - haha. good vid.
Keep up the great videos!
Good vdeos
Another advantage -- If the 8RT had a major problem, one can swap tractors and keep spraying
Very true! Forgot about that one
There's older pull-type sprayers that are far simpler in design. Older Summers for example for their hydraulic controls they have a joystick that mounts directly onto a mechanical hydraulic lever, use buttons to activate proper valve solenoids (left boom lift, right boom lift, vertical lift, etc) for quick adjustments. Money is probably the biggest thing... pulltypes are cheaper and can use a variety of tractors on a farm to use them. When those self-propelled machines start getting high hours (4000+) they can start to get hydro problems and such and can get expensive
I'm thinking about getting a self-propelled machine sometime soon, to get a nice all-in-one package... but still concerned about upgrading since the pulltypes are much more simpler, that's what worries me about adding on more and more stuff for more things to go wrong. Good info and video!
Great video. Beard suits you keep rocking it
This was a very detailed video! Maybe the pump intake is higher than the bottom as if there's debris in the tank it goes to the bottom rather than get pulled into the pump?
Does it have a ladder inside the tank? If not, why not? 😊
Custom Operator Here. Couple of things.
I think one of the issue you had with tracks/ruts was because of tire pressure. I run a Hagie STS16 & even in wet conditions I might have sank in 1 in.
Those items that separate particles from solution are called strainers, not filters.
Those tank level sensors are a God Send. Yes, they can fail but that is very rare. The flow meter ones are OK but not nearly as accurate as the tank sensors.
A major drawback from a pull-behind is because of the Poly Tanks. They never clean out well compared to a Stainless steel one.
Lastly, it's very dangerous to only run water to "clean out" spray equipment. Especially when your doing multiple crops. I'd always recommend a chemical tank cleaner. $100 per cleaner is sure as hell cheaper that damaging an entire 1/4 because of a bad clean out.
Great video though.
@@farmerjon360 the sprayer sinking into soil really depends on soil types. My friend never makes any tracks with his self propelled 3 hours away from where I live. Nobody goes without making tracks in my area. We haven’t had any issues cleaning this sprayer out. Have rinse balls in the top and they work very well, would rather have a 2400 gallon tank that’s poly than a 1200-1600 that’s stainless
The John Deere does not use a flow meter for tank level unless u put it on aftermarket. It’s a tank float same idea as what fast has except it works 😅 it uses a flow meter to count down your tank level
i am pretty sure Fast has a flow meter on fill line with readout option for less than full fill load outs.
Just saw guidance system on Tripe R farms channel... it was two arms, one on each side of middle snout that guided combine thru down corn by sensing corn stalk... he said it worked great, especially in down corn.. would be something to demo for your channel..
Yup, John Deere calls it rowsense. We have had it for about 6 years now. Works pretty good
Personally I would love to have a self propelled to desiccating canola or soybean would be less painful. Plus I could give the corn some juice when it's tasseling. But even an used one cost around 27.000 usd in my country. And those are close to 20 year old ones, that could have many or almost no problems.
i will take a self-propelled sprayer any time why because you have much more control
Control over what may I ask?
Anything requires Bluetooth or Wi-Fi on agriculture equipment is so-so. Best is something like a key FOB.
So find a good joystick and mod it to suit your needs.
I’ve thought about it. Any recommendations on where to start?
@@6thGenFarmerAt one time, Bestway had a joystick that might work. If all boom functions were ISOBUS, the Topcon JS-20 could be an option, too.
@@6thGenFarmerI would talk to Nick welder I think he put in a custom joystick when he was building his big brute.
@@6thGenFarmer mueller isobus
I think I am going with the self propelled. I will able to kill the crabgrass in my suburban yard in no time. May be nice and even hit the nieghbors - haha. good vid.
I love it😂
Them tracks really damage the plants in late season soybeans though.
I still am a firm believe that is is less loss than compaction would be with tires
That’s possible there was definitely compaction there, that Brolsma farm of yours by my dads was every 60 though not 120. @@6thGenFarmer
Self propelled wins...Crop head clearance...Spray during entire growth process / cycle
You can’t spray during the entire growth process though. Not unless you buy a Hagie and they have their own issues