Seven great books about music

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  • @maxrockbin
    @maxrockbin 5 років тому +46

    "The Rest is Noise" Alex Ross extremely readable, fun, informative, mind opening, Pulitzer winning book on 20th/21st Cent. Music. It's why I watch this channel.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому +18

      Yes, I'm a fan of Alex Ross' writing. My list could have been 10 times longer and this was a somewhat arbitrary selection..

  • @jackdomanski6758
    @jackdomanski6758 5 років тому +26

    I'm currently reading Thomas Mann's modern rendering of Doctor Faustus. It is fiction, of course, but nonetheless absolutely brilliant and essential for music lovers.

    • @Hist_da_Musica
      @Hist_da_Musica 2 роки тому +4

      The philosopher and music critic Theodor Adorno, who was also exiled in California when Mann was working on this novel, was his consultant on music theory. Some lines from the Devil are taken from Adorno's Philosophy of New Music

    • @yuriyseredin
      @yuriyseredin Місяць тому

      This is a great book, probably my favourite. Enjoy!

  • @paulzollo9710
    @paulzollo9710 5 років тому +15

    Thank you Samuel very much for your words about my book. I greatly appreciate it. There is a sequel I did last year called More Songwriters On Songwriting. My favorite music books that I did not write are Sondheim's Finishing The Hat - i love the Alec Wilder as well - and Jimmy Webb's Tunesmith.
    Also for Beatles lovers - their engineer Geoff Emerick's book on them is about as good as it gets.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому +3

      Dear Paul, great to hear from you. Your book has been a valuable companion to me over the years, and I look very much forward to discovering the follow-up. Thanks for all you have done to increase appreciation of this great art form.

    • @paulzollo9710
      @paulzollo9710 5 років тому +2

      @@samuel_andreyev thanks very much for your support - and discernment!

    • @paulzollo9710
      @paulzollo9710 3 роки тому +2

      @Jeff Sylvester Hey Jeff - thank you very much.

  • @randylarosa7381
    @randylarosa7381 Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for this. I have loved Webern since the 1960s while a composition major @ Boston Conservatory. I also got to attend master classes with Stockhausen while there.

  • @Pretzels722
    @Pretzels722 5 років тому +21

    its always a good day when samuel uploads a video :)

  • @AllanFelipe
    @AllanFelipe 5 років тому +19

    Nice, could you also talk about your favorite technical composition books?

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому +26

      sure, I'll do a follow-up video about that.

  • @noahjustice9618
    @noahjustice9618 3 роки тому +2

    I love your videos, brother!
    Here are six stupendous technical books on music:
    Adler Sight singing
    Gjerdingen Music in the galant style
    Gould Behind bars
    Holst Tune
    Nelson Solkattu manual
    Persichetti Twentieth-century harmony
    And an excellent non-technical one:
    The Blackwell guide to recorded country music

  • @Toggitryggva
    @Toggitryggva 2 місяці тому

    Just finished the Morton Feldman book. Got it after watching this. Loved it. Thanks!

  • @OscarGeronimo
    @OscarGeronimo 5 років тому +5

    Man, this is rich... but we want the technical reading list also.
    After all, you are the reference on classical vanguard on youtube.
    And this is dense material, we need to start reading now, life goes fast, it takes long to become a composer.

  • @WarinPartita6
    @WarinPartita6 8 днів тому +1

    Big​ thanks​ ❤😂🎉😂

  • @edwardgivenscomposer
    @edwardgivenscomposer 4 роки тому +1

    Another great vid! Also good reads : The Agony of Modern music by Henry Pleasants. Through Music to the Self by Peter Michael Hamel.

  • @VaSavoir2007
    @VaSavoir2007 4 місяці тому

    I’m absolutely obsessed with Xenakis and I thought I knew of every book about or by him, and then I find this. It wasn’t in the bookshop at the Xenakis exhibition in Paris in 2022, and they had an LP! On the other hand the time when I spent the entire day from opening to closing of that exhibition was the last day.
    I was initially interested in Xenakis only because of my three joint interests of contemporary music, music in general and mathematics. Then my mother brought back a CD of what I think was the only recording of Pleiades at the time, and I was spellbound and lifelong addicted.
    Hearing Nuits for the first time in a church in Paris of musique contemporaine was and is one of the most powerful moments of my life,
    I have not been able to interest many other people in his music,
    I don’t understand why. One friend even sneered at him as pretentious, which I didn’t understand.
    He is a hero of mine really. Many of my heroes in art seem to be people who met a bitter fate fighting on right side of history, and then turning their revolutionary adroit to the art world.
    This list is extremely useful.
    Maybe the book about popular music will give me an inkling into a domain I have a tin rat for with rare exceptions except for all of it used in the films I love.
    Alas I never met Xrnakis. I prefer to meet my heroes if I can but with him I never managed it,

    • @coritaylorsverson
      @coritaylorsverson 3 місяці тому

      Is the book formalized music possible to understand? I’m a musician not a mathematician.

  • @lesonyrra
    @lesonyrra 2 роки тому +1

    John Szwed's "Space is the Place" -- a biography of Sun Ra. I've read it twice, and serendipitously met John Szwed at Downtown Music Gallery in Manhattan. He liked my Ra tattoo. :^)

  • @groofay
    @groofay 5 років тому +1

    Excellent video! I'm putting these books on my list, and your new CD. I've been intrigued by Xenakis in particular for as long as I can remember but never got around to reading about him much, so thank you for that recommendation.

  • @scribblertheband
    @scribblertheband 5 років тому +1

    Definitely passed on that songwriting book once and now I’m going to find it, that Morton Feldman book is on my radar now as well

  • @fryingwiththeantidote2486
    @fryingwiththeantidote2486 5 років тому +1

    Ben johnstons maximum clarity completely changed my life. An astoundingly lucid perspective on western musics history and its spiritual underpinning. As well as complicated just intonation mathematics.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому

      Sounds like something I should read.

    • @fryingwiththeantidote2486
      @fryingwiththeantidote2486 5 років тому

      @@samuel_andreyev oh yes, you most definitely should. i would've thought you had already and just didnt put it here due to its technical stuff. Johnston has become my musical and religious obsession the past few weeks.

  • @SaraG6270
    @SaraG6270 Місяць тому

    I'm currently reading Maynard Solomon's "Beethoven", a great book I strongly recommend. I'd also add to the list Christoph Wolff's "Bach, The Learned Musician", maybe the most complete biography of the great German composer.

  • @RodWilliams-m7r
    @RodWilliams-m7r Місяць тому

    Thank you.

  • @passage2enBleu
    @passage2enBleu 3 роки тому

    I'm new to music theory appreciation and composition. A very late awakening. I've only heard of one of these books, although I now have a few music literacy books in my library. So this is very enlightening to see what the well informed and educated musicians appreciate. The suggestions in the comments are a gold mine too. Thank you for doing this video. I'll need a very long life to explore the surface of what is fast becoming a fascination.

  • @davephillips1263
    @davephillips1263 2 роки тому

    A few others I've found enlightening: Modus Novus (atonal/non-tonal ear-training), Soundpieces 1 & 2 (interviews with interesting American composers), Kyle Gann's American Music In The 20th Century (excellent exposition of many "forgotten" composers), Xenakis's Musique Formelles, Persichetti's 20th Century Harmony (a bit sprawling but terrifically useful), Rosen's Sonata Forms... too many others to list. Alas, so many fine music books are either out of print or priced so high that they may as well be OOP.

  • @Tylervrooman
    @Tylervrooman 4 роки тому +2

    Samuel, are you familiar with Victor Wooten? He wrote a great book called "The music lesson." Its about life, philosophy and music. Mostly music. I highly recommend it. Thanks! - Tyler

  • @pedterson
    @pedterson 5 років тому +1

    Those are great recommendations. Thank you! Three of them went straight to my Christmas wish list.
    I'll also suggest The Music Instinct by Philip Ball. In my humble opinion he is one of the finest and most versatile science writers of our time.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому

      Never heard of it. Will investigate. Thank you.

  • @yuriyseredin
    @yuriyseredin Місяць тому

    Do you have a list of books for composers, who would like to deepen their understanding and knowledge of contemporary music? I highly appreciate your work and find it super interesting and useful! Thank you, Samuel! 🇺🇦

  • @felixdevilliers1
    @felixdevilliers1 5 років тому +1

    Charles Rosen's book certainly requires technical knowledge. I didn't like the film Amadeus at all. But thanks for your suggestions. I am particulaarly interested in the book on Mozart. Adorno is the best writer on music and poetry I have come across,. I don't mean his large books like The Philosophy of Modern Music but his shorter essays especially on works tthat he loved.But he is difficult to read. When I first attempted to read him I understood nothing but then one day I was in a bookshop and picked up a book of essays on literature. I saw essays on poets I love, read a pasaage and felt something like the language of Schumann's Kreisleriana. in the texture of his prose. From then on I had no difficulty reading him.. I need a libidinal relationship to philosophic texts. Later I heard that a piece from Kreisleriana was played at his funeral.He wrote a wonderful book on Alban Berg who was a close friend.

  • @christophebassett
    @christophebassett 5 років тому +1

    Definitely checking some of these out, starting with Music of the 20th Century.
    My two favourites are both very similar
    John Cage's Silence: Lectures and Writings
    Ezekiel Honig's Bumping Into a Chair While Humming
    What I've read from Harry Partch's Genesis of a Music gives a lot of insight to his philosophy of music, but it's a very dense tome that's full of complicated math so it's not very accessible.

  • @wolleyreikivalley
    @wolleyreikivalley 5 років тому +1

    Do you have any familiarity with the latter works of the English group Talk Talk? I'd love to hear your analysis of largely improvised pieces in the future.

  • @JudgeFredd
    @JudgeFredd 21 день тому

    Greatly appreciated - may be can be updated

  • @schnouttz
    @schnouttz 5 років тому +1

    Great video as always! I tried reading Xenakis' Formalized Music a few months ago and even as a civil engineer with a working knowledge of statistics and stochastic processes, I found the mathematical notation exceedingly difficult to follow. I should check out that biography though!

  • @SamuelRHoward
    @SamuelRHoward 5 років тому +1

    Great recommendations - I actually haven't read the Xenakis (I've had a sporadic and superficial relationship with Formalised Music, but I'm not a good mathematician, so it's not an accessible read for me).
    "Sound In Z" by Andrey Smirnov is also an interesting if esoteric read, and is also another book which doesn't really require any musical training. It focuses on developments in 20th Century Russian electronic music and covers some activities and composers/sound artists that don't often get mentioned. (available for free as a pdf on Smirnov's website, I think. It may be out of print)
    The Real Frank Zappa book is also a highly accessible and highly idiosyncratic insight into an unusual musician's ideas and attitudes (it sheds some insight into Zappa's process, but doesn't focus very much on the technical details of composition) - it reads like a big interview, and Zappa maintains an amusing wry sardonicism throughout (and it's interesting to see Zappa make similar claims to Kierkegaard re. music's relationship to the written score - not to mention to read the acerbic and almost dramatic speech he gave to ASUC)

    • @jwc3o2
      @jwc3o2 4 роки тому +1

      agreed: the Zappa book is an accessibly intriguing take on being involved in music (& there're lotsa other sources for some excellent discussions of music itself by him). for an accompaniment, how about Nicolas Slonimski's "Perfect Pitch"? also autobiographical but with some great dense sections on the mechanics of music (baffled the hell outta me when i first read it but has since resolved into sense) & an astonishing tale of his intense involvements with modern music. [his "Lexicon of Musical Invective" is a fun one, too!]

  • @NirajPoudyal
    @NirajPoudyal 2 роки тому

    Hello. I found your channel very interesting and unique and informative. I,ve come here directly from the J.B Podcast. and my favorite books so for, are the Rest is all noise, musicophila, perfecting sound forever and I,m definitely gonna search some books you mentioned in your video if I manage to find them in my country, which I doubt very much. Thanks for posting this video and I appreciate what you are doing.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  2 роки тому +1

      I appreciate your message, glad you found my channel. What is your country? Greetings from France

    • @NirajPoudyal
      @NirajPoudyal 2 роки тому

      @@samuel_andreyev thanks . I am from Nepal 🙏

  • @lambertronix
    @lambertronix 3 роки тому

    just found this channel and enjoying it thoroughly. would love to see analysis of elliott carter's music!

  • @michaelkaplan22b
    @michaelkaplan22b 3 роки тому

    Sidney Finkelstein: Jazz A People's Music. BTW Maynard Solomon passed away in September, 2020, at age 90. Maynard hired Sidney in the early 1950s to write the liner notes for Vanguard classical albums.

  • @romeosyne
    @romeosyne Рік тому +1

    I picked up a Boulez bio at the county library book sale the other day...should be interesting 1 dollar investment haha

  • @ToSorrowFor
    @ToSorrowFor 5 років тому

    Hi Samuel, thank you for great channel! Could you please do same types of videos dedicated to separate classical pieces? It would be particularly interesting to know about certain operas, what do they mean, what importance do they have, background. Thank you once again for the great job you are doing

  • @Dieubussy
    @Dieubussy 2 місяці тому

    I would add The "Music since Debussy" by André Hodeir, the "Beethoven" and the "Strawinsky" by André Boucourechliev, plus "Opera as a Drama" by *** (I have forgotten his name but he is well known in US).

  • @asderc1
    @asderc1 5 років тому

    Great video, gonna read a couple of these

  • @Silencer1337
    @Silencer1337 5 років тому +1

    can you make a video where you just drop names of relevant composers? I am hella uninformed about classical music but if only I knew more of what to search for I could figure it out better. some of Xenakis' stuff (which I only looked up due to your mentioning his name here) I really liked.

  • @Gusrikh1
    @Gusrikh1 5 років тому

    Very interesting. Thank you.

  • @pi314156
    @pi314156 5 років тому +1

    John Luther Adams WINTER MUSIC

  • @giacocarrera
    @giacocarrera 5 років тому

    So much thanks for this.

  • @MegaBuzzAstral
    @MegaBuzzAstral 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for your amazing videos. I am a beginner composer and it would be great if you made a video with best technical books for composers, anything that could help me and other musicians subscribing your channel to improve our knowledge and craft.

  • @romeosyne
    @romeosyne Рік тому

    I can't remember if I cited it but I used Zollo's interview of Walter Becker in my paper on him that I published recently. Great book, best of its kind.

  • @artemisshaffer8654
    @artemisshaffer8654 5 років тому

    Stellar recommendations. Morton Feldman's other books are worth considering too. John Cage's Silence is a good match with any book by Feldman. Finally Scoenberg has a collection of writings, but his Theory of Harmony changed my musical life.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому +1

      Schoenberg's harmony book is a great text, but I wouldn't recommend it to a general readership.

    • @artemisshaffer8654
      @artemisshaffer8654 5 років тому +1

      Samuel Andreyev I was meaning to recommend his "Style and Idea". Most of his other books, I agree, wouldn't be appropriate to a general audience.

  • @Lamadesbois
    @Lamadesbois 5 років тому

    Thank you for your recommandations.

  • @QuismTV
    @QuismTV 5 років тому +1

    удивительно было, когда нашел у петерсона в подписках человека с русской фамилией. Неожиданенько

  • @danielalvarado542
    @danielalvarado542 5 років тому

    Thanks for your recommendations Samuel ! I recently bought "Histoire de la musique occidentale". It's a good book, and it's huge, with lots of information. Off course, it's impossible to include every subject with detail in a history book, but I was disappointed when I found only four pages concerning XXth century music in all Latin America ! Its very "Eurocentric".

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому +1

      Hi Daniel! Yes, it certainly is Eurocentric, and it's far from being a balanced or objective survey, either. However, despite these flaws, it remains a valuable resource.

  • @massimoraoulbeckers796
    @massimoraoulbeckers796 3 роки тому

    I seem to be more interested in musical literature that does not go deeply into theoretical and analytical contexts. I love therefore Boulez' writings in 'Orientations: Collected Writings'. He offers some lovely insights on pedagogy/the 'art' (or artisanry) of teaching and it's full of his strong opinions and statements.

  • @TheMotherOfBambi
    @TheMotherOfBambi Рік тому

    Give my regards to eighth street my beloved 💖

  • @McRingil
    @McRingil 5 років тому

    Thank you Samuel

  • @els5389
    @els5389 5 років тому

    What do you think of Roger Scruton's The Aesthetics of Music? Thanks for your vids btw :)

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому +3

      Roger Scruton is an intelligent and cultivated man, but I disagree with much of what he says about modern music. He seems to make a lot of vague generalizations about great swathes of 20th century repertoire, simply because it is not to his taste, or does not understand it, or both.

  • @donna25871
    @donna25871 4 роки тому

    I would also add Alan Walker’s three volume biography on Franz Liszt - read it while I was studying in Hungary. The man was a giant (which matches the size of his statue outside the Liszt Academy in Budapest).

    • @KitKat-lp8gn
      @KitKat-lp8gn 4 роки тому

      The fact that he was tall was what stood out for you?

  • @isakpersson5211
    @isakpersson5211 5 років тому

    Twentieth Century Harmony - Vincent Persichetti

  • @PMKehoe
    @PMKehoe 5 років тому

    I would add: "A Biographical Guide to the Great Jazz and Pop Singers" by Will Friedwald (2010)... very readable, endlessly fascinating prose covering the biographical, historical, technical and discographies of a plethora of the 20th Centuries (and 21Century) figures...

  • @phoebe4567
    @phoebe4567 5 років тому +6

    I would love to support you via patreon, but I have no money to do so. Is there a non monetary way that I can be more supportive?

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому +7

      Spread the word and engage by commenting on the videos -- that would be a big help. And thank you.

    • @rolandmeyer3729
      @rolandmeyer3729 5 місяців тому

      Phoebe, you could pray for him.

  • @IbrahimHoldsForth
    @IbrahimHoldsForth 2 роки тому

    Gardner's book is definitely more appropriate for those familiar with Bach and his works at an advanced level. He emphasizes the liturgical works which Bach churned out weekly during his peak years. At this time in my life I found the book rather dry...

  • @TheCrusaderRabbits
    @TheCrusaderRabbits 5 років тому +4

    Please recommend one Xenakis CD for my Xmas list

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому +11

      This is the one to get: www.amazon.com/Xenakis-I-Orchestral-Jonchaies-Antikhthon/dp/B00BV109PI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543520735&sr=8-1&keywords=xenakis+jonchaies+tamayo

    • @petthemama
      @petthemama 5 років тому

      @@samuel_andreyev Just listened to Jonchaies for the first time based on your suggestion...
      Woah.

  • @briansmith9455
    @briansmith9455 5 років тому

    what about the Morrissey autobiography? just kidding. great suggestions and thanks as always.

  • @cointoaster9488
    @cointoaster9488 5 років тому

    not sure if you've mentioned them elsewhere, but what are your favorite pop records?

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому +1

      Syd Barrett, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads, Captain Beefheart, Kate Bush, Bow Wow Wow, Van Dyke Parks, Kinks, Leonard Cohen, etc.

  • @markmiller3713
    @markmiller3713 Рік тому

    What is the picture on the wall?

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  Рік тому

      It's a lithograph by my friend, the superb French painter Morgan Bancon.

    • @markmiller3713
      @markmiller3713 Рік тому

      @@samuel_andreyev Thanks!

  • @Jose-gq9bt
    @Jose-gq9bt 7 місяців тому

    The rest is noise by Alex Ross

  • @spearsmullen5398
    @spearsmullen5398 5 років тому

    How about "American Popular Song" by Alec Wilder"?

  • @dspwilson
    @dspwilson 5 років тому

    American Popular Song: The Great Innovators, 1900-1950, Alec Wilder, Oxford University Press

  • @Foulfootwear
    @Foulfootwear 3 роки тому

    Surely a part two is in order, for both my musical education and for the YT algorithm wink wink.

  • @nicolasrioscardona
    @nicolasrioscardona 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the video. Several books I did not know and I will start looking for them. Samuel, Is there some book that you can recommend me about signs and everything that has to do with semiotics (¿extended techniques maybe?) in 21st century orchestral writing? Thank you in advance.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  5 років тому

      The semiotics of 21st century orchestral writing? I'm not sure such a book exists :)

  • @evergreen1326
    @evergreen1326 2 роки тому

    Can somebody recommend me a book about the evolution of music? Like from the stone age till now kind of book:))

  • @carlosandresasdfg
    @carlosandresasdfg 5 років тому

    Silence by John Cage???

  • @daviddangerfield1023
    @daviddangerfield1023 4 роки тому

    Thanks Samuel. 'How Music Works' by David Byrne might be worth mentioning here... For a fiction read threaded with music, dance and theater please check out my new young adult fiction fantasy novel 'The Music Of The Spheres' by David Dangerfield . Features Australian indigenous, musical, political, ecological and metaphysical themes...
    Paperback and eBook now available worldwide online/in store....
    Story synopsis : The world of the not-too distant future is plagued with ecological disaster, economic collapse and ruled by a tyrannical corporation called Omni. A 12-year old Afghan named Orpheus, cast among millions of ecological and political victims within a mass detention center in central Australia, can bend reality with their singing voice... Careful to evade Omni's brutal oppression and obsessive control over emerging new dimensional possibilities known as the 'The Spheres', Orpheus teaches their gifts there to a growing counter culture of 'Orphics'.
    With the help of a blind Australian indigenous elder named Yunuringa and the arrival of the comet causing the dimensional anomalies, prophesied to be an anancient artificial intelligence arc known as The Argus, Orpheus leads the Orphics at mass Corroboree's in The Spheres... With collective voice, they heal the sick, empower the poor and mend the Earth's ecology... Evolving the hearts and minds of all who can hear... The Music of the Spheres..

  • @boschblue
    @boschblue 4 роки тому

    Has anyone here read Alex Ross' "The Rest Is Noise"? I will soon want to read either Ton de Leeuw's "Music in the Twentieth Century" OR Alex Ross' "The Rest Is Noise" - I will not have enough time to read both books deeply and attentively. Anyone here willing and able to compare the two books? I fear that Alex Ross' book is too anecdotal and "journalistic" in the worst sense of the word. I'm more interested in the music than in anecdotes about conservative audiences reacting with anger to Stravinsky, etc.

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  4 роки тому +1

      Haven't read the Ross book, but I understand it is more narrative-driven, whereas the de Leeuw is more oriented towards aesthetic and technical considerations.

    • @boschblue
      @boschblue 4 роки тому

      @@samuel_andreyev Thank you very much! Yes, I am more interested in a book offering analysis, so ... de Leeuw it is then. And your videos, of course. ; )

    • @notimetostop7823
      @notimetostop7823 Рік тому

      i did like “the rest is noise” i think the anecdotes and some speculation about the scene and characters makes it entertaining, yet there is analytical parts in relation to music, as composition and also more like a characteristic of the music in time. It is interesting and entertaining.

  • @therodolfool
    @therodolfool 4 роки тому

    Why do you blink like that jesus

    • @samuel_andreyev
      @samuel_andreyev  4 роки тому

      My eyes were dry because I was staring into the camera while wearing contacts. I've since addressed the problem. Thank you for your feedback.

  • @evergreen1326
    @evergreen1326 2 роки тому

    Can somebody recommend me a book about the evolution of music? Like from the stone age till now kind of book:))