IAS & IPS Cadre Rule Changes l Why are States angry with new Deputation rules?
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In this lecture, Mahipal Singh Rathore talks about IAS & IPS Cadre Rule Changes l Why are States angry with new Deputation rules? #UPSC
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In the name of Federalism, it seems many of the present states are not cooperating with the centre only because of their political leaning and it is becoming a severe issue day by day. If this issue is not addressed properly now, it will lead to create island countries within the country. Central Govt makes policy for the entire country and this needs a good amount of Expert officers from all the cadres. Since this new amendment is expecting to address this issue, I am supporting this move by Center. I also believe that for any misuse of this law by Center, can be appropriately handled by our honourable Nyaypalika.
Well as cleared by Mahipal sir, and if you do some ground researches It can be easily derived that the states needs those officers for their participation in the schemes and the state's development projects. So if they send officers from states, their own projects get affected. And I believe, even the upper level Politicians dont trust their fellow politicians of local areas rather they trust these officers well. Now, the main problems before us is We dont have enough officers to handle such a huge population of ours. We should have more officers so that none of the work is hampered. Surely their can be misuse of the proposed rule depending upon the state-central relation.
@@souvikshyamal9752 that is the challenge...
This is nothing but a step closer to a central dictatorship.
Cooperative federalism not responsibility of centre only. State has to follow it.
@@omassociates7221 how come is it dictatorship? When the states themselves dont abide by the rules set? And later cry foul for the consequences. Yes the states need those officers, so does the centre. The 40% quota being reduced to 25%, and then again below it. Don't you see how states also have pushed the centre to take these step? Federalism is not just the responsibility of the centre. States too must understand.
Union government should create it's own cadre, as you said "center cadre" for which an officer will be permanent.
I am glad to hear that.Some IAS officers are acting like serving the government of state own political parties member. Example V K PANDIYAN in Odisha.
You are right bro
He is not an IAS, rather he is super CM. of Odisha. Surprisingly no transfer since last 10 years.
True
Here in WB there are so many
Pura thik
When it comes to a federal structure, India is still not as mature country to be as federal as USA, so I believe until things are under control (not like emergency 1975-1977) we should continue with a system where center should always have a superior power over states.
....you are right. Moreover Federalism is a both way traffic kind of set up where state too have to abide by the rules. In cases of Maharashtra and WB what we have observed is nearly one way traffic. Federal structure never allows states to dominate over central govt
what a wise comment!
India is not federal country .as pee constitution india is defined as union of states
@@amit1657 I am not saying its federal, I just gave an example of a federal structure and its similarities.
I think this a very good move as central govt's intention here is apolitical, because they need the expert of certain field which can be found in the states cadre only. States shouldn't have any problem regarding that.
but the states also require officers.
Wow. So you think this is apolitical step by Center? You are the most innocent kid on earth. Lol
This is nothing but a step closer to a central dictatorship.
@@omassociates7221 not more than u
@@equilibrium9858 but center also require ias officer .
What a lecture sir! Crystal clear ♥️♥️
I am not preparing for upsc still I regularly watch ur videos. You are a hero! Please keep uploading more such video on current issues. ♥️🙏🎯
I think center should recurit more officer so that freshers can serve for state and experienced move towards center...
Minimum Government, Maximum Governance was the slogan of BJP and its sanctity must be maintained, hire consultants from private from different walks of life for a minimum period of 3 years, extendable on wish of Government, Nandan Nilenkani of Infosys was appointed by Government for Aadhar card, did wonderful job, similarly experts like hi who have earned expertise and fame in private sector must be appointed by Government as is done by USA and UK who work in Government besides Civil Servant and enjoy same salary and powers as Civil Serva
That slogan was for minister not for civil services, many committees in past ashked government to increase the numbers of civil services for better administration
To be precise,
The best possible way to deal this situation should be focusing on increasing the numbers of overall officer's strength.
I think that should work more effectively.
A civil servant cannot disobey center but it happened in Bengal, state interfered which is not good for federal structure
According to me it's a good thing that the center is doing right now to bought some changes in the cadre rule. And it's going to help in the smooth functioning of the center's policies and development works.
Cooperative federalism must be a responsibility of both Center and State. Whenever states try to misuse their available powers, Center need to show its Authority. Probably the makers of the Constitution have designed the Indian Federal structure in a quasi-federal manner to keep the unitary spirit ahead.
This increasing Unitary spirit is the biggest threat to India's unity. The more unitary India goes the more problems occur.
States in the South always feel Centre is exercising control on it. Unitary measures like NEET has already angered states like Tamil Nadu.
Why not centre mentain their minimum required personnel himself ? I think centre should mentain their minimum required personnel and send him to on deputation basis time to time.
@@rodgerbloor6680 Rice bag detected, opinion rejected.
@@rodgerbloor6680 NEET just exposes the limitations and mistakes of TN education system.
Greater central powers in a quasi federal system guarentees uniformity throughout the nation, as seen from GST. Bringing uniformity in the economic and legal frameworks is a mere reassertion of "all Indians are equal" while bringing in the reforms necessary to make India a more robust economy.
As for anger of TN, DMK is angry at the very existence of hinduism. Their political positions and perspectives are prejudiced and fiercely political. Thats all there is to it.
@@ullasshome8392 if you had some sense or had a brain to think you would come up with an argument and debate properly with respect.
Instead what you did?
You read my account name and assumed by religion and targeted me for that. No rational thinking and brainless argument you have put forward.
Senseless people will keep rejecting opinion. Because they have no Brain to understand them.
Come with a better argument if you understand English.
Brainless guy detected
Rejection ignored
1.वर्तमान में ias अधिकारियों की अधिक संख्या में भर्ती होनी चाहिए। ताकि भविष्य में इसी प्रकार की दिक्कतें ना हो।
2.राज्यों पर आवश्यक रूप से केंद्र में अधिकारियों को भेजने का प्रावधान मौलिक नही लगता। अतः प्रत्येक अधिकारी को 2 से 5 साल के लिए केंद्र में काम करना आवश्यक करना चाहिए।
3. केंद्र के पास लेटरल एंट्री का भी रास्ता है जिसके द्वारा निजी क्षेत्र से विशेषज्ञों को एंट्री दी जा सकती है। परंतु लेटरल एंट्री विशेष परिस्थिति में ही होनी चाहिए,और पूर्णतः पारदर्शिता के साथ।
4.कुछ मंत्रालयों को मर्ज किया जाना जिससे श्रम क्षमता में वृद्धि हो। जिससे minimum government maximum governance के लक्ष्य की प्राप्ति हो सके।
5. इन उपायों के बाद भी केंद्र में आईएएस अधिकारियों की कमी होने पर केंद्र के द्वारा राज्यों से आवश्यक रूप से अधिकारियों को बुलाना उचित समझा जा सकता है।
We need mediviel history lectures. Plz continue them🙏.( Like to send a proper message)
Sir please make videos on regular basis.we are eagerly waiting for your videos❤❤
Great video. . . read a lot of articles but there was no clarity and majorly all had some political angle to it. But you brought only facts. Great work.
Ans. Option B.
Officers serving at the office of CAG, Election Commission, etc cannot be dismissed at the pleasure of President.
केंद्र को चाहिए LBsnaa मै बिल्डिंग को अपग्रेड करे और 180 लोगों की लिमिट को थोड़ा सा बढ़ा दे
Isse achcha ye hoga ki central govt. specialized officers rakhe har ministry k liye jo sirf center ko serve kare ye 2 saal k deputation to ministery samjhte samjhte hj beet jata h
Not only IAS IFS needs to be expanded also.
Desh ko central vista se jyada aur naye lbsnaa ki jarurt hai
RESERVATION BAND KARO.LOW GRADE OFFICERS OCCUPY LABASNAA ROOMS WHEREAS GOOD STUDENTS LAND GROUP B JOBS.STOP RESERVATION.
Nehru na jagah khaya hai mitron
Isiliye to 2014 se baith ke ro rhe hai
My opinion is the rule in which AIS officer's must have 14 years experience...it can be minimised to 12years or may be 10 like that ..so that in a less time AIS officer's can be ready to move in a central gov..
हम एक बात समझ नहीं आया जब 40 परसेंट का रूल पहले से बना हुआ है तो उसी को अच्छा से लागू करें बात खतम।
2 yrs compulsory is very good idea to utilize IAS by Center 👍🏻
currently if govt will say i want to pay gold to everyone, states will raise voice against that. such a sick mindset of state machinery
great explanation, thats what make Mahipal rathore sir different from others
Lbsnaa needs upgradation and more number of IAS officer should be recruited to fill the vacancies
Hello Mahipal sir...hope you're doing well.
Sir please upload the next medieval history lecture video..it has been 2weeks since you uploaded the last video...😔
I think this amendment is required.
Dopt should make this rule for only 10 year, and also upgrade the limit of ias intake strength.
When strength of ias become sufficient then this rule should revoked automatically (after 10 year)
Correct.. Government need this power to control whole country so that a dictatorship can be imposed anytime if required by the Centre.
I think in your earlier video you said there is a plan to increase the number of officers recruitment per year in coming days. That could be the right solution and also they can keep enough officers in state cadres as per plan first and then call for centre. Regarding the expertise, it is better to identify the officers during training itself and nurture them in particular subject then distribute among the states and center. Both center and state were right in their opinion and given situation the states ruled by opposition always cry foul than keeping good dialogue with center is the need of hour beyond politics. Sir please make the presentation on republic day tableaux issues with all inside issues.
There must be a central cadre because over the time we had seen sharp decline in these vacancies and after implementation of lateral entry, it was evitable. It may have aspersion to centre and dilute the autonomy of state by ill conceived politics.
It seems you don’t admit that relationship is being spoiled by states like WB.
I think center has the right to take decision on centre deputation since states are not providing enough officers as per requirement as it would hamper the center operations
No it should be made mandatory for ias to serve 2 years or else he she will be removed From service
@@ayushpandey5857 no sir it will hamper the federal structure
@@VijaySharma-zj1xq plse can u explain me why
Just asking for knowledge no offence
This is nothing but a step closer to a central dictatorship.
@@ayushpandey5857 sir our government is based quasi federal government so it is responsibility of both i.e centre and state to run the government. When states ask centre that we need these no. of officers centre did the same but when centre asks states to send some of the officers to run centre operations states send less no. of officers to centre by excusing this will hamper the states operations but as per rule 6 centre allot 25% more officers to states so that when it comes for centre deputation states have enough officers to serve the state. Now it is state responsibility to send the required no of officers to centre as per requirement given by centre.
there should be a mandatory time bound cyclic deputation pattern . Lateral entry and increasing posts of All India Services are also very remedial measures...
Lateral entry should not be carried out, government will appoint their ideological people in various departments.
If opposition disagree , then center move is best 😉
Not always . Sometimes blind following harms
Yes they always see political benefits in everything.. So somehow they are culprits of unnecessary disagreement
true
agree
Bro I think apne puri video nhi dekhi.......
Even bjp states are against this.........
Or rhi Baat centre ko agr ias ips officers ki jrurt hai to new recruitment suru kre 1500 post nikale or states ki demand puri kreeee tabhi states koi bahana na bna skeee
Vakti a66i chis hai lekin andh vakti nahi
Sir if u ask question in all your videos, I hope u may understand that candidate prepares for 1 MCQ this way. Thanks 👍
Number of IAS officers should be increased.
Number of specialised officers should be increased.
Ek hi IAS ko use krke different departments me daalte rehte hain bewakoofo ki tarah.
Pehle DM bnayenge, fir uske baad Road transport me daal denge, 5-7 saal baad agriculture me daal denge, aur last me aate aate joint secretary bna denge home ministry me.
Sir with due respect..
Kindly continue the mediaeval history video series..🙏🙏
Why Central Goverment is not selecting more IAS and IPS officers so that new IAS officers can be diployed to state level and the experience gained Officers can be sent to Central level?
States are also right at one point because They have also need officers to administer.
States can use their PSC officers.
ये एक अच्छी बात है की केवल deputaion के लिए केंद्र में जाते क्योंकि इससे ias का काम करने का तरीका ज्यादा पता लगता है ।
और उनकी knowlegde भी expand होती हैं
Thank you so much sir for this informative lecture 😍🥰
We all love u sir ❤️
Rahul
Thankyou dear sir
We need more videos related to other topics
Good decision, it may increase IAS posts in the country
Sir, plz bring more such videos... I'm preparing for the CAPF paper 2 content from ur channel.... When u said no need to go for newspaper reading, just watch this video... Felt very relieved... Kindly make more videos...
co operative federalism is a two way road not just centre has to co operate but it is also the duty of state , state should have responded to centre give officer as a spirit of co-operative fedralism and raise issue of raising their cadre allotment so that more and more officer are available
Sir you are great at what you're doing🙏🏼
Sir medieval history k lecture ka kb se wait kr rha hu sir aap ne bola tha ki week me 3 lecture aayenge yaha to 1 week se jyada hi ho gya hai or ek bhi lecture nhi aya nd not even any information regarding this
This is really good.. More IAS officers are needed in central govt to make better policies of india. Good step by Govt of India.
In my opinion it is more than just a "who all are opposing" issue. Irrespective of which political party is ruling the state, this problem is severe.
And the reaction of the government is totally foolish, if both centre and states are facing a crunch in AIS officers then it simply means that there is paucity in general and it cannot be overcome by dragging max. strength towards oneself.
Government need this power to control whole country so that a dictatorship can be imposed anytime if required by the Centre.
Don't states have their provincial administrative nd police staff.
1) केंद्र सरकार अपना एक अलग केडर क्यों नही बना लेती ये रोटेसन क्यों जरूरी है?
2) सरकार अधिक Ias क्यों नही भर्ती करती
Now i know why this government has too much enemies 😂😂 . Good decision by the way
What too much enemies dude..say dumb ..center under this government is really exiscing too muxh power..look at 2019 ammendment of RTI act..well you won't understand if you are a right wing ridee
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Government should recruit more IAS and IPS .
Big fan of ur sir thanks for lecture ❤️
Sir history ki videos continue late rahiye. Please lecture 4 ka intezar hai
Abhi centre kuch nhi kare WB maharastra jaise state against me hi rahenge , does not matter is se public ka bhala ho ya bura !!!!!
I think it's a good move because,
1) like any policy has to make and Central govt. Want some experienced person's in that section of policy.
2) that experienced officer State govt have, centre has sought that officer in limited time but most of the time they didn't response even.
3) then how centre will do work on that policy with punctuality.
The change of rule (6) will give extension of power to central.
Opinion and mistake I make pls correct me!.
Center government is dependent on State in case of experience office. If State Deni to do that then center government is boun to make it compulsory or hire someone from non-government organisations.
100% with centre govt. , Pura hardwork kare centre is selection and training aur zarurat par officer hi na mile ,,... Wah
Sir pls continue medival india series🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Well as cleared by Mahipal sir, and if you do some ground researches It can be easily derived that the states needs those officers for their participation in the schemes and the state's development projects. So if they send officers from states, their own projects get affected. And I believe, even the upper level Politicians dont trust their fellow politicians of local areas rather they trust these officers well. Now, the main problems before us is We dont have enough officers to handle such a huge population of ours. We should have more officers so that none of the work is hampered. Surely their can be misuse of the proposed rule depending upon the state-central relation.
Always Waiting for any topics covered by you
सर इसका मतलब यह है कि स्टेट गवर्नमेंट अपने स्टेट पीसीएस के द्वारा सीटें कम रखी है और ऑफिसर्स के हायरिंग कम कर रही ! इसका मतलब साफ है सभी राज्य को पीसीएस की वैकेंसी ज्यादा निकालनी चाहिए?
Two fold solution:
1. Centre should recruit more AIS officers (e.g. As population of India & no. of states/district has increased over the time in India, so 180/year limited no. of IAS is bound to be short, hire according to proportionality).
2. Centre must have say in central deputation as Indian constitution has given more authority to centre, thus need more officers to brainstorm, form & implement policies. But it shouldn't exceed the earlier max limit of 40%, and also officer's consent must be there for special project deputation then only bring them.(As half hearted officers won't be 100% efficient in work). There might be a scenario where few officers won't like to go to deputation (as they can grew political nexus in states), to fix this issue.. say, ensure something like 2 years compulsary deputation for every official in his last 10yrs of job.
Same
Ryte
केंद्र सरकार को UPSC में पदों की संख्या बढ़ाना चाहिए ताकि राज्यों से अधिकारी , ठीक संख्या में केंद्र सचिवालय में अधिकारी की उपस्थिति हो और देश में अपना अहम योगदान दे।
Sir isn't the whole scenario is contradicting the fact that the vacancies in UPSC CSE are decreasing year by year?
If there is requirement of so much officers, why is it that the vacancies are decreasing?
Well said. Officer jruri hai govt ke liye to post kam kyu hoti ja rhi hai every year.
Correct. Government need this power to control whole country so that a dictatorship can be imposed anytime if required by the Centre.
@@omassociates7221 at first i thought you are a person of logical thinking....but as I read your comment more and more......it seems that you are on a hunt for the current govt. Which is not a good sign for an IAS (if u are) aspirant you should be neutral. Moreover UPSC is an apex body. So they might be only responsible for decrease in vacancy........
BTW I WAS VERY AMAZED BY YOUR PREVIOUS LOGICS......
Ek dam sahi ye to centre states k liye cadres allocate karta hai to states ko bhi niyam k anusar chalna chaheye
Maximum states, specifically west bengal use officers as party Cadre. That's why reform needed.
Alongside an upper limit, a lower limit should also be applied to the percentage of officers to be sent to the central by each state.
practically union needs more manpower to manage our territory, amending rule 6 and making it compulsory to provide with the specific number is not going to violate our federal structure, national interest should be emphasised, as states also have PCS officers to manage their affairs,
Both my mother and father have been senior govt officers in Gujarat. My father is a retired IGP ranked IPS officer. I have observed that state officers are often burdened by Additional Charges of different departments. A joint secretary of the Energy Department might also be holding additional charge of Narmada Nigar or the post of managing director GMDC.
My point is, if the central govt enforces compulsory duty outside the state for a given time, this will exacerbate the present pressure bureaucrates are facing. An IAS/IPS officer will be forced to hold multiple positions at a given time, potentially decreasing his efficiency and focus.
The centre must appoint more IAS officers annually to overcome this crisis.
Creating a central cadre can be a viable option in which every IAS officers from different states must serve for at least 2 years after having 15 years of experience
Nomaskar sir.mera hindi thoda weak hain, isliye may 1st mafi chata hun.mera ak question tha that is --- UPSC CSE may Except IAS ,IPS,IFS,,,, baki jo service hain yesob service karne ka liye candidate ko pura service life bahar ka alag alag state main rehena parega?
For Many days Medival Lecture series is discontinued
Good decision by Central Government I completely support decision
One more aspect to notice that non bjp ruled state govt denied access to CBI to inquire in corruption cases to save corrupt bureaucrats that shows some where politicisation of bureaucracy
That is purely vague from state's end...Since CBI can directly participate in cases without any intervention at crimes or cases related to Union list...
Regarding cases relating to states it can only proceed if states recommend or judiciary gives them judgement to do so...
Even if they deters CBI proceedings judiciary is available for action...
Few percentage of AIS as per required by central govt should be made reserved from total strength. Deputation should made compulsary within specified length of service as decided by DoPT.
It is the high time when governments should look for practical solutions instead of keep blaming each other for destructing constitutional values like federal structure . Irony is we r 2nd largest Populus nation but still we r fighting for capable officers or lack of officers . Isn't it raise question on our recruitment system , why don't we as a nation strengthen that , why don't we invest on infrastructure development to train more officers ?
Population of nation is increasing but number of employees or officers to command that population is still same ,why ? In each sector we are lacking of workforce weather it is Medical, Army officers , Civil services , education , police , judiciary, Intelligence services etc. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Yes.
I am not understanding as a UPSC aspirants that is it good or bad for future coming officers ? Any suggestions
Better for State government is to govern state administration by officers selected by their State PSC & leave IAS, IPS to serve central government.
Rule no-6 got changed...in IAS act 1954..which gives centre edge over states now for appointment for IAS cadre
Ofcourse federalism must stay intact. So these amendments must be time bound. Say, 3 years. And within this time limit Officers count should be increased, so that after this period States will have adequate officers and can also send for Central deputation.
The tussle is real. Both need manpower for advisory, planning and implementing the projects.
Solution is;
1. UPSC have to increase AIS vacancies.
2. Lbsnaa, svnpa n other's need a quick upgrade n infrastructure to handle more candidates.
3. Mandatory for every AIS officer's to serve 2 yrs or more.
4. Centre govt need to be greedy and start their own union govt cadre and keep training their officer's at regular intervals and need to train officer's based on their efficiency in particular dept. To implement the schemes smoothly.
I want to say, they need 360° changes. Initially their is a huge investment in doing so. But in long run outputs will be fruitful.
यहाँ पर सरकार को अधिक लोगों को recruit करना चाहिए न कि राज्यों के कार्यो में बाधा डालकर इस तरह नियम बनाकर उनकी शक्तियों को कम करना चाहिए, क्योकि इससे राज्य के कार्यो में ही रुकावट आएगी ,
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This right should be with the states only.
Otherwise center will start harassing states which are not of same parties.
Answer:-d, the subordinate can dismiss the senior above him/her
भारत बड़ा देश है देश में योग्य उम्मीदवारों की कमी भी nhi hai । केंद्र सरकार कैडर बढ़ा भी तो सकती।ताकि राज्यो का काम भी चलता रहे और केंद्र को डेपुटेशन भी मिलता रहे ।जब राज्यो के पास पहले से ही कम ऑफिसर्स है तो वो डेपुटेशन पर कैसे भेज सकती है
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sir question poochha kijiye.. kyunki answer to nahi pata hota 99% of the times but still.. aap video me explain kar doge to pata chal jata hai.. so it's better.
ans-D
Yes it is practical and correct decision and sir solution for this is increase cadre requirement
Ans B
Hello sir,
I think there is a need of more civil servants in India. It's true that central govt can't function properly without enough officers but neither can states.
DoPT should focus more on recruitment.
And also I think it's not a bad idea to recruit ministry specific officers.
Itni tough exam me age limit kam hai..khas karke general ki ..atleast 35 yr to honi chahiye..aapko wo sab requirements pure hoge
1st centre should increase the vacancies for ias then this decision will work, bcoz states has also need experienced officers
There are also every state public service exam...like UPPSC,BPSC... conduct the state level exam to recruit officers
Ans - B
केंद्र को यूपीएससी के माध्यम से ज्यादा अधिकारियों को नियुक्त करना चाहिए। केंद्र सरकार इस प्रकार राज्य पर दबाव नहीं बना सकती। राज्य से केंद्र में अधिकारी चले गए तो राज्य का काम कैसे चलेगा।
Jaa ka ias ban ja chutya yaha kuy gyan daraha h
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Jb population(idea's) increase hue to post bhi increase kro
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The act should be implemented immediately.. Because ias ips are now become servant of politicians not the people
State government can maintain its strength thought PCS ..but center need smart and intellectual..i have full support ....!!
States also need expertise so in my opinion centre should have another right way to mitigate this problem like boosting the numbers of officers recruitment.
Kendra & state ko ek dusre ko support krna chahiye....! Aur Wese vi state me pcs officer vi toh hote h unse Kaam chala lena chahiye 2 year tak.
Optioon : C