Wranglerstar Gauntlet Challenge Phase 2: Benchmade 940
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- The Wranglerstar / ApostleP Gauntlet Challenge has reached its conclusion. Did I successfully meet the challenge, or did I fail? Will the UA-cam universe witness my conquering glory, or mock me in ignominious defeat? Will there be cheering or snickering?
You be the judge...
** Note **
Sorry for the 37-minute epic, gang... But please understand, there is another 45 minutes of footage on the cutting room floor :)
What a great video Rob, Truly excellent. This is the first 37 minute video I've ever watched beginning to end that didn't belong to Nutnfancy.
My heart rate increased when I saw my 940 cut phone book paper.
This is the only reply after this awesome video and all the detail work he put in? I've been a fan of Wrangler for a long time but.. I would have expected a little more appreciation from him.
I like your videos Cody but it's hard to believe that after all the things you can do you can't sharpen your own pocket knife. It just takes practice.
Thanks, my friend. Believe me, I cringed after my first edit and I was at almost an hour! I just thought Cody would want to see as much of the process as possible on the restoration of his beloved 940. I'm grateful so many others found it watchable and informative :)
There's something very fascinating about watching someone who is very skilled in an area about which I know nothing. I enjoyed this video, thank you.
It's not just your unquestionable sharpening skills, but your attention to detail and ability to disassemble/reassemble knives that make you invaluable. If you lived here in the UK, you'd be even more popular. God bless you... :)
paul greenwood You too, Paul! Thanks for the kind words, brother!
The mark of great Educators is not only do they know their subject matter, they also know how to pass on their knowledge to others.
You Sir, are a great Educator. Respect! And Thank You.
Dude gave a heavily worked 940 a damn mirror polished edge 😂
This was one very interesting video. I enjoyed it. Honestly, I am only into traditional pocket knives, but I really gained some insight into the innerworkings of these types of knives. I would say that anyone who sends you a knife to work on and/or sharpen, is most certainly in good hands. Very entertaining. Thanks for the lessons!
Beautiful edge! I could see the tree limbs reflecting from its finish. I use a KME sharpening system and I am in love with the results I get. Thanks for all your tips and tricks, and keep up the excellent work.
I think Blade Aficionado would be an appropriate title for you. 😃
Interesting I had that knife back to Benchmade 2 years ago for sharpening and repair. I asked them to look at the blade play. They returned the knife kind of sharp and didn't address the blade play. From the looks of it I'd say then didn't take the knife apart. Perhaps they should watch this video to learn how to properly take care of a knife.
+The AspolstleP
You have a god blessed talent. Even better is your gift for explaining to us laymen. You have a new subscriber and I have turned my ad blocker off.
Tony
That's a pretty edge on a well used knife. Just got my own 940 as a gift from the wife, haven't sharpened it yet but will soon. Enjoyed the video.
I am trying to decide on which EdgePro to purchase, the Apex 1, 2, 3, or 4? Any suggestions on which kit or model to purchase? Enjoyed the video! Thanks!!
I never thought watching someone sharpen a knife would be so interesting and informational. Thank you.
It's not so much the steel, I think, as it is the primary blade grind of the 940. The cross section of the blade is like a wedge, with a 10-12 degree inclusive main grind angle. Also, Cody's knife is very thick behind the edge, so it's kind of tricky to find the right edge geometry for good cutting.
Loved this video. Thank you, just subscribed. Hoping to get a 940-1 and this got me excited about it!
God Bless ☝🏻️
Thanks for saying so... It's pretty hard to make myself post a 37-minute video. Glad you enjoyed it :)
I was so impressed that i bought the 940 and the spyderco para 2 and the edge pro because I have never !!! been able to sharpen any !!! knife. then I bought the mini grap because i didnt want to practice on my best 2 knives. so I have done pretty well practicing on my mini grap but still scared to touch my better knives. (oh impressed with your skill and attention to detail I meant ) I have a question for you. when you place the blade on the edge pro do you put the flat of the blade on the base or do you put the angle part of the blade against the base? might sound like a a dumb question but at 51 years old I have learned that the only dumb question is the one you dont ask. I am never going to be to old to learn. God Bless
Doesn't matter where you rest as long as it's easy to hold consistently in the same spot. Something like a PM2 you can easily hold it on the flat the whole time, but a blade that doesn't have a flat you just hold on the face of the blade.
@@carlosmatos9848 there is no flat on the pm2 it's a continuous angle from the edge of the bevel to the spine .
@@OsamaBinDarrel Yeah I meant to say the ricasso. That's the easiest way to sharpen the PM2 on an Edge Pro that I've found.
@@carlosmatos9848 I wonder if that'd work on a Lansky as well? I may try that next time I sharpen one of my Spydercos
@@OsamaBinDarrel The KME clamp seems to be pretty good at holding full flat ground blades, so I think the Lansky would be similar
AP Which Edgepro did you end up buying. The 3 or 4. Been told the polishing tapes only last 2 or 3 times. Also wanted to know if the polishing tapes are really necessary.
Also I have a question about the drill stop collar, edge pro sent me one and when I use the drill stop collar, I find that I still have to manually adjust the angle of the sharpener. Do you have any suggestions?
I was in the mood for this old vid to re-watch. What i was thinking during review that i think this is one major advantage of the more expensive knives, the willing to resharpen and spa treatment investment of the owner. Where cheap knives probably getting replaced. So i think an expensive knife helps sustainability and preserve our limited sources better. What do think about that Sir Rob? (Sorry for my bad english)
+KnifeCollector031 The Netherlands (Messenhobby) Can't speak for Rob, but in my personal opinion you are entirely correct. America in particular has fallen prey to the phenomenon of the "junk economy." We are only now starting to realize how damaging this has been to our manufacturing base, and society as a whole. Far better to spend the extra money on a domestic product or service that will last a lifetime.
Totally agreed. Well spoken.
Enjoyed this video! I also have a 940, still with the factory edge. Might want to get it sharpened one day.
Apostle please answer.. on a brand new 940 what edge angle do you use?
Are you supposed to use 2 hands when pulling back on the axis lock?
That was when the blade was 154cm, do you think with the s30v it would have held up to the abuse a little?
Oh, Lord, no! This is a pretty delicate process, as you don't want to remove much material at all, and the keys are flatness and consistent thickness. I use a worn out piece of 800-1000 grit sandpaper on a very flat surface, making figure-8's, then finish on my strop. This makes the washers smooth as glass without compromising dimensional integrity.
rob, how do i know how to set the angles i just got a edge pro used though..but i don't understand how to know what degrees to sharpen at? can someone PLEASE give me some advice please???
Thanks for the comment, Justin! I suppose the Nutn influence does come through pretty strongly from time to time. Like many, I got my inspiration to participate in UA-cam by watching and listening to him way back when. I'm from Fort Wayne, btw. Grace and Peace, my friend :)
It's good to see someone take pride in the work they do,that is really hard to find now days. there is nothing like a beautiful mirror edge on a good knife.I'm getting ready to buy the ZT 0562 and would like to have your edge on it. that's about my limit on spending on a knife but I think you should get a good knife for that. I like the Benchmade knives also.
Thank you for that, David. I am a Bible-believing disciple of Christ. I am saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone. I rely on the sufficiency of Scripture for my salvation and edification, and a personal relationship with God the Father, through the sacrifice of His Son Jesus Christ, which requires no intermediary or intercessor other than The Son, in whose name I have direct access to the Father. Hope that clears it up :)
No problem, Zechs. This system and the stones it uses are designed to be used with water. I find it actually prevents loading of the stone better than oil.
Rob, I have a question about washers. You mentioned in the video that you will not polish the washers. Is this because of the material they are made of or is there any other reason? Do you polish only metal washers or others as well?
Wolfgang Häussler In this case it was about material. I do often polish phosphor bronze washers for smoothness.
Do you use an ultrasonic cleaner to clean your knives once taken apart. how do you center the blade if need be?
Greg Wallace if it’s pointing towards the pivot side the pivot is to long, so you sand down the pivot. If it’s pointing towards the pivot screw the blade is either over tight or the pivots is worn out.
Thank you for saying so, my friend! It's always good to that people appreciate our efforts as UA-camrs. Glad to have you aboard :)
Wow. That was awesome the way you sharpened that knife. You gave it new life. Well done!
When I saw the length of this video, I almost didn't watch it, however, I just finished watching the whole video. Very good job, well done.
Thanks for going into so much detail. Great vid. So you use water over honing oil?
I actually struggled with the question of whether to post that footage, but ultimately I figured you're a big boy -- you can take the heat :)
What's your fave brand for a leftie ApostleP?
I understand some are pretty awkward to open one handed in the left hand.
Great tutorial. Watched it from go to woe.
I always get my knives super sharp with my stones then for some reason i lose that sharpness once i strop, any ideas to whats going on or what im doing wrong???
Probably lifting the edge into the strop when you are picking the knife up to do the other side. It’s important to, once you make a pass, stop, pick the knife up holding the exact angle without rolling the edge onto the leather, and do the other side. Only do 10 passes per side, any more and you’re convexing the edge, in my experience. Also, green paste is generally very low quality, I highly, highly recommend DMT Dia-paste, 1 micron. It works wonders!
Should i sharpen my spyderco tenacious with a 25 degree secondary bevel with a 30 degree micro bevel? is that good. Please tell me suggestions.Thanks
Sloth Mc The Tenacious usually likes about 16-17 DPS with a 19-20 micro. And yes, I'm accepting new jobs and you'll get a mirror edge. 😉
Thanks for asking. I charge $25 plus $6 for return postage for everything you saw on this video. PM me if you're interested.
Excellent series man, outstanding work.. How much do you charge to sharpen up and rehab EDC blades?
Boba-Fett would be proud of that 940. Mine is still a little too new, but we're getting there.
Great work brother, you did what you do!
By the way that impression of me was way off : )
Very nicely done Mr. TheApostleP. I was looking forward to see the outcome of your friends BM940. If everything goes as planned I should have a new BM940 waiting for me...Yay! I was kinda on the fence with my decision to buy, then went on UA-cam to read reviews of this knife and found your channel. I enjoy your videos/posts. You kinda nudged/encouraged me to my purchase. I'm sure I won't regret it...looks like a fine knife. Thank you again. Keep the videos a coming. God bless.
your making a very suttle mistake here at 17:10 the light passes. I had a video on this. When using very light pressure with the system, if you travel passed a quarter of the stone, your angle changes slightly. Take your pivot arm, and without any pressure make a super light forward stroke all the way, and watch your pivot... when it reaches a certain point, it is no longer under load and it moves down... got to watch out for this! When making very light passes, they have to be very short, and horizontal.
Did I miss where and how you put the micro bevel on?!
It's the Edgepro Apex. If you look in my Knife "How To" playlist, you'll see 3 tutorial videos. It's a great system.
Wow....got to honk long before I sharpen my new bench made 940....it needs the up which I have bought diamond stones for.... But you are very good!!!
Where did you get your torx bit tool kit?
Crazy to think that there was a time when Cody did not sharpen his own knife.
Nice video!! I just bought a system close to this and I really learned a lot from this. That is a great looking edge.
Supreme, very professional, real craftsmanship.
You make it look easy, so much so, I am looking to purchase a Edge Pro kit here in U.K.
How easy/hard would it be for someone to learn how to use this type of sharpener?
Great question, with a bit of a complicated answer, Michael. For me, as an experienced free-hand sharpener, it was fairly easy. For some, it's very frustrating, and they prefer the Wicked Edge over the Edgepro. The EP takes more skill and muscle memory from the user than the WE, because your off hand is the "clamp" holding the blade against the table. However, the EP, because of that same characteristic, affords more flexibility in positioning the knife, which can become important on some blades. I love the Edgepro, and the results I get with it. But I also have a local knife knut buddy who is selling his because he just can't get it right. Not much help there, huh?
TheApostleP Lots of help thanks, will check out the "Wicked Edge".
The Edge Pro's spares seem very fair in price and available here in U.K. I have used various old fashioned sharpening stones over the years, but the EP looks as though, once mastered, will return much more consistent results.
Thanks again for an excellent video.
P.S. did you make the leather polisher/sharpener or can they be purchased? Was the leather oiled?
I purchased my strop from "stropman" on ebay, but you certainly could make one. It is not oiled. I use a green fine rouge-type compound on the smooth side, and gray medium on the rougher side.
Outstanding Job. I know I am late to this party, but it never hurts to hear that you did it well!
Thanks Todd! Welcome to the party :)
After looking again my 940 does not have a flat top of the blade so i guess i answered my own question but my mini grap does but i have been laying the angled portion against the base of my edge pro. hope thats correct
4:13 mile Jesus loves you pencil in the back!
was that bone handled fixed blade knife in your intro a case?
You are absolutly astonishing and might I say a marvoluse job on Cody's knife
Your edges continue to motive me Rob, I love your vids and channel...Merry Christmas Sir!!!
Cody rehabs a lot of vintage tools and you did the same for his 940. Well done.
You have a lot of craftsmanship, you do amazing work!
Thanks for asking, James. I charge $25 plus $6 for return postage for everything you saw on this video. PM me if you're interested.
Sorry, Jake... You'd probably already have one if you didn't have to sit through 37 minutes of me talking about Cody's :)
Thanks for the compliment! LOL! Dude, I tried... I really did. But I knew I'm only gonna get one chance to do this knife justice, so I didn't want to leave out anything important. Just relax and enjoy it... when you have time :)
You did a great job showing the whole, honest, process. I guess that is why I stay away from folders:) Thanks for teaching!
I'm 9 minutes in and loving it.
How much do you charge? Great job!!
That really came out great ,beautiful edge on that .Gerry
how much for this on my 3" emissary and 940-1? also what's turnaround?
$25 for the Emissary, $30 for the 940-1, plus $6 for return postage. Turnaround is about a week in the shop at present. All my shipping and contact info is in the description of my sharpening service video.
Love the pencil in background!
could i use 120 grit sandpaper to flatten the stones?
You could as long as you put the sandpaper on top of a piece of glass. I've even read about people flattening their stones on a cinder block!
KIND OF COOL HOW YOU GUYS HANG OUT & HELP EACH OTHER OUT
Im sure there should be no play, no matter how old. Whats the steel?
jeff smith wranglerstars 940 shown here is 154cm( it’s from 2007 or earlier ) the modern day ones are s30v and lock up like a bank vault
My biggest pet peave with buying new knives is an asymmetrical grind. I just bought a cabelas exclusive Benchmade Axis Flipper 300-1401 and it came with an awful asymmetrical grind. Will Benchmade fix this for free? SMDH
Sloth Mc They'll do a similar job the second time. Knife mfr's seldom sharpen well. That's where I come in 😉
TheApostleP are you actively taking jobs? Because I will send it to you if you promise a mirror edge ;)
97 to go, my friend! Any requests?
what a transformation, that edge is beautiful...
Yeah my benchmade was about that dull when I bought it! Ridiculous man. $200. I got it sharp though, not quite as sharp as I'd like, but it'll burn through some paper and card board now.
Hey what sharpener are you using??
Man you are a master at what you do.
I don't get why wranglerstar thinks it is going to be so hard to sharpen. It's a 154cm blade and you have an edge pro. That is an easy sharpening job considering most new knife steels
I believe it's out there on his channel, just check his videos.
What do you charge for a knife sharpening
John, he has a video outlining it, with shipping it’s about 30 bucks, unless you have a very large blade or a super steel that is
Thanks, Chuck. I appreciate the support :)
What kind of knife sharpener is that?
You may have found an answer by now, but in case not; It is a Edge Pro Apex, they run about $275 for a full model, they may have a cheaper version with less bells or a more expensive one... I am not to sure. I personally use a Wicked Edge because it better suits my personal needs.
But the Edge Pro is a great system, and maybe a bit more practical (money wise) than a Wicked Edge.
Great job, good video. lot's of laughs too. I'm sure Cody will be pleased. please continue the videos I do enjoy them. God Bless !
How about the table magnet to secure blades ? Your opinion
Cody fro Edgepro has tried to give me one, but after over 10K knives, I find my “manual clamp,s,” aka hands work the best. Muscle memory is a beautiful thing. It also makes you faster and more precise as you move the knife along the table in some situations. The magnetic table might be good for someone who doesn’t sharpen a lot of knives though.
Wow you have the exact same technique as I do sir. Right on beautiful edge !!
Great job man! That is one well used (loved) blade!!
It's a "fair use" rendition of "Country Boy" by Aaron Lewis.
Wow, what an amazing edge you put on that blade! I had no doubt you would succeed. Fine work, The Wranglerstar Nation is very pleased! ;)
You ever use Jewlers rouge for your strop?
cwrowe Yes he does. He uses grey on one side and green on the otherside. He then strops with them respectively. Hope that answers your question!
beautiful video man, thank you very much
great video man. you should try to get in contact with NutnFancy. your videos are very informative like his, and I think some of your ideologies align pretty closely. Cody sent me over here and I subbed and would like to know what part of Indiana, roughly, are you from? I family all over that great state!
That was like a clinic. Thank you. :)
Okay ... I guess you passed the challenge. Cody's knives are in good shape & you have a new sub. Nice vid. brother.
I'm really learning a lot from Watching your videos and I love the pink pencil.
Love your video, awesome pencil 😁👍
WOW!!! Beautiful job on both. You are the master of knife sharpening for sure. You definitely won the gauntlet thrown out by Wranglerstar God Bless you both
yeah how much do you charge to sharpen knives? I love the polished edge.
Rob- amazing work on both knives! You da man!!