Russ is absolutely making the most of his situation. Mad respect. Also yeah, I agree! It's really fun to see new and unusual titles, and less nostalgia pandering. Even though many Nintendo titles are considered GOATs for good reason.
its nice because it provides a lot more games that you'll know emulators will run. everybody knows [nintendo game] will run, and sometimes random 3rd party stuff won't run at all
Please never again apologize for how long these videos get...idc if it was a full 24 hour clip lol it's worth every second every time. Thank you for your time and you work and most importantly your attention to detail. I know for sure these vids take a toll on you. We are grateful 🙏🏼
Thanks Russ! I ordered my Odin 2 a few weeks ago, and have since just had that little nagging doubt that I should have perhaps waited til the release of the Pocket 5 and your reviews to compare. I remain very happy with my choice in the Odin 2, though I this one does give it a close race and I can see it being a tough choice for a lot of people! As usual your reviews help make those choices more informed, and it's always just great to see how these devices are evolving. Keep up the great work!
Funny enough, I've been leaning towards getting an RP5 and then I see this and I'm all "....do I spend a bit more for the Odin 2?" Back to more research
The fact that only started looking at affordable handheld devices like the R36S this morning and was looking for something with more power. Then this video drops… It’s a sign that I need an RP5
My advice is to just bite the bullet and get the more powerful handheld. I bought a r36s, then smart pro and now looking to upgrade again. Trying to decide between retroid packet or just getting a rog ally
@@kevinschmidt9482get an Odin 2 it’s better for emulation and has good battery, also much more powerful than the rp5 just buy the base model for 300 and get a 512gb sd card and you’ll be set
Love your videos and your transparency. I think the answer is clear: budget. Under 250 there's no one better. Under 350 the Odin 2 base still rocks. Saludos desde España.
We ordered the black version because the OLED screen will really hide the black bars in 4:3 aspect ratio games. Thank you for the review and congrats for excelent contents as well!
@@Sigma-0289 Thank you for the recommendation. I definitely will look into it. I know right now my main focus is playing through the Pokemon games. Games like Coliseum, Gale of Darkness, etc I never owned so I'm excited to play. Then of course, I think Stretch from NBA Street Ball Vol. 2 is calling my name as well! If I end up getting use out of it and learning the emulator/ROM process better, then I will most likely order an upgrade to play better resolution for a Bday gift in 6 months or so. Money isn't necessarily an issue, but I'm cheap. Ha!
I actually dont recommend the odid 2 as a starter device, Retroid is more catered to beginners, But if you know android and want a little bit better specs, then yeah the odin 2 is a great device, I just perfer the smaller form factor of the Retroid 5
Hearing about the inconsistent emulation on higher end systems makes me hesitate on getting this device. I appreciate your detailed reviews and take your insights at high value. I am going to have to really consider which pricier handheld I end up getting.
Honestly, what higher end systems are you emulating? Don’t say switch because that’s currently dead for all android based handheld, meaning inconsistent performance either way, capped by software. PS2? I would say with the right configurations 95% of the game catalogue can be ran on the RP5. You can buy get an Odin 2 portal but you’ll be paying $200 for switch and some higher end ps2 emulation.
ive been debating either getting rp5 or Odin 2 and I decided to go with the latter. I'd rather pay the extra $80 just so i don't have to fiddle with settings just to play any gc or ps2 game
$250 including shipping. It's so purdy. I seriously thought about adding it to the glass case collection. Ever since I saw the mini, I was really drawn to that glass front. Then I remembered that I had bought a PS Vita 1000 for $80 that was waiting attention from a long list of to do's. I bought a $8 card adapter and a $40 512GB sd card. I tried the new Vita hack (that's a lot easier than the first one). Now I've got a glass front handheld that plays my whole psone, psp, and psvita library. Then I took $110 and bought a Intel 12th Alder Lake N100 Mini PC--NucBox G2 (16Ram/512Gb) on today's Ali 11.11 sale. It was a tough call but I'm happy with what I got.
@@Eragonfrost Yeah, I bought it as my 3rd vita. I already had my original 1000 and I bought a panda white slim model in box for 170$. Then I saw that 80$ 1000 at an electronics market and was like, "Dammit, now I have to buy this too or I'll regret it later." I also give custom systems away to close friends and family. It's like giving friends mixed tapes in the 80s, but better.
Great review, and exactly what we expected. Not really sure why so many people are interpreting this review as “performance bad, buy Odin”. Again this is a mid tier device, under $250 that will still play everything the RP4 pro did, as well as some high end emulation (which will only get better after updates), and a better display / premium design. If performance is your main factor then you’ll always be looking at Odin, as it will always be the higher end option so that the two products do not offset each other given they’re sibling products marketed at different cost categories.
Wow I haven’t tuned in for a while, talk about a massive upgrade in lighting and review and video quality!! Love it. Thank you RGC for fuelling my passion with retrogaming!
I purchased this for my wife and I as our first emulator handheld. I am still interested in the Odin 2, but the design and screen of the RP5 sold me. If I was going to spend as much for an Odin or Odin Portal, I think I would just get the Steam Deck and that's not what I'm after. It can play the vast majority of PS2 games, but most PS2 games I want to play have a Gamecube version (sometimes superior). And I prefer playing Switch games on Switch for now because I don't want to emulate my own Switch games and I would be tempted to emulate games I don't own for an in-production modern console.
As an Odin 2 Base owner, I am very happy with the device, but based on your needs/wants with emulation, I think the RP5 will do everything you’re looking for.
Gamecube Color for the question at the end =) thanks for that video, and thanks for pointing that stick in the way thing. Still, can't wait to receive it !
I pre-ordered my Retroid Pocket 5 had to change it to Black cuz it looks so good and it's been a year of Retro gaming for me Thanks to Russ and thank you for wearing jeans for the pocket test I appreciate that
I ordered the GameCube version with the Ice Blue back plate mod. Can’t wait for it to ship and get my hands on it! Love your videos and just how honest you are in your reviews!
I already have an odin 2, and miyoo mini plus. My first android handled was a retroid pocket 2 that things was amazing. I just ordered this RP5 I'm exciting having it back in the family
Based on the comments im seeing, im onr of the only people who clicked this vid because im genuinely considering getting this device. Amazing review as always, i appreciate everything you do dude!
Very nice video Russ, I had preordered the RP5 for my fiance to get the promo pricing as this looked like the best handheld for the money and I'm happy to see reviews like yours affirming my assumptions, with the only real gripe being the positioning of the left joystick I can't wait for her GC RP5 to ship so I can get it loaded up with games and give it a spin. Hopefully emulation in android on the later nintendo consoles improves to the point of being able to run more complex titles on the 865 to make this a nearly timeless machine.
As someone who has an s20fe with a gamesir g8 on it, seeing that the pocket 5 is basically that feels kinda funny to me. Because it makes sense why Retroid is going with these specs. You'll find all over online for people who want to get into gaming emulation with enough power but on a budget, most people would say to get an s20 or LG V60. Now that they're 4 years old and samsung has officially stopped updating the s20 line as of October, there's probably a lot of left over stock/used phones from Samsung and LG for Retroid to just take and turn into a handheld. The s20 and v60 both have the snapdragon 865 cpu, Adreno 650 gpu, 8gb ram, and amoled screen, all which the RP5 has. So if you have either of those phones, you'll have a pretty good idea of how this device may work for you.
So tempting and amazing review as always Russ but I think I'm going to hold off until I see your Odin 2 Portal review. Wouldn't want to have buyer's remorse after I buy my RP5 😅
Hello fellow Irishman 🇮🇪 Remember to vote 29th Nov 👍 I won't be able to because of vacation (cheers Simon) and taking some of Retro Game Corps Russ's advice, I didn't bring 3 handhelds along. The most pocketable one wins this time around for the airport "lounge"/transit time 😊
The beauty of these videos is they are somehow re-watchable!! I’m brand new to handhelds and I’ve only done simple emulating in the past. I got the RP mini when it came out and I’ve had it for like 3 weeks. It’s such an awesome starter device I can play up to PS2 without issue (some PS2 games do struggle) plus the Wii games I’ve tried work well too. I’m experimenting with new stuff and as I progress I’ll move up to trying out tougher things like Wii U, switch, pc ports, android gaming, etc. and maybe by the time I get good at that stuff on my PC (nothing fancy but a solid gaming laptop) maybe I’ll be looking for a bigger and more powerful device and maybe the RP6 will be on the horizon then. Anyway all this to say great video I really appreciate your honest opinions and how you try to help us make these tough decisions. To quote you, Russ, in an older video, when you’re looking for a device you are looking for what’s the best fit RIGHT NOW based on what you wanna play. And then you just go from there. Just the nature of this beast
I’ll be ordering my RP5 in black here in the next couple weeks, and I’m super excited for it! I’ve loved the 3+ and 4 Pro a lot already, and I’m sure I’ll love the 5 as well. I *do* have the Odin 2 Pro on the way yet, hoping it’ll be in any day now, but that form factor and screen are too good to pass up. It’ll be a wonderful addition to my collection!
It is really amazing that the competition can't do nothing to surpass the ODIN 2. Thanks to you I decided to purchase it at March and it really deserved it, and it is really nice to see it being compared to nowadays handhelds and being better than them. Thanks Russ for an exceptional review once again! You owe us a review of the AYN super dock though (just a friendly reminder) :)
@@EliHank Lol. You can't kill my vibe, Dude. Switch is not a true portable IMO. Half the RPGs I want to play on the Switch the text is too small to read in handheld mode without going blind. I play my Switch games on a PC Emulator in 4k, it's a much better experience (and yes, I own the originals too). I do however have a backlog of PS2, PSP, Vita and GameCube games that are going to look magnificent on this. 😊
@@raeldor lol I was just messing with you man. RP5 is absolutely incredible for what it is, especially at that price point. Think I'll still buy the Odin 2 Portal this year and maybe just wait for the RP6 but I don't fault anyone that buys an RP5 right now. Enjoy 👍🏻
@@EliHank Hehe, thanks. I would consider the portal, but it's a whopping 415 grams, and probably a bit overkill for my needs. My ideal would be the RP Mini if it had edge-to-edge screen.
if you want a bezel-less experience, the Odin 2 Portal could be an option as well. It's not out yet (they should start shipping in late december), but it's pretty much the Odin 2 with a much better screen for nearly the same price.
Great review! I'm getting the black one for sure! If I can play up to the GameCube console this is all I need right there. That AMOLED screen looks great! Looks like an endgame console for me! Can't wait to have it!
Really appreciate your reviews. Been eyeing a handheld to play older backlogged titles but always been ignorant/intimidated about emulation and such. Currently wavering between this and the Odin 2. Thanks again!
I wish retroid would take a shot at making a windows or steam OS based handheld. They have the retro market cornered when it comes to their devices but all their newest devices have that "its ALMOST perfect" feeling. its like they want to get as close as possible to high end emulation as possible without actually diving into it. at a $200 price point, its hard not to just recommend a used steam deck for a 100 bucks more if your goal is use high end emulators. if your not looking to emulate high end, the pocket 2S is a much better and cost efficient option. the nicest thing I can say about the RP5 is "its the cheapest and most powerful handheld that can still fit in your pocket".
Yes there probably is a market for something in between a Steam Deck and this, in terms of cost / performance / size. TBF if they go with x86 based chips that would end up with a much higher power envelope. At least if using off the shelf parts, AMD and Intel's newest chips seem very power efficient, but they are optimised for general computing use and not ideal for a gaming handheld. Valve are moving units at a scale where they can justify getting a custom design made, Retroid aren't. If think if they want to compete with PC handhelds the best way for them to do that right now is probably by sticking with ARM chips, and using compatibility layers like Wine / box86 etc so they can at least run lightweight / older games (which is what I've found I typically end up playing on my Steam Deck anyway). Winlator exists, but as the Retroid Pocket 5 also supports Linux (through Rocknix) that potentially offers an easier route, with reduced overhead, to emulating a PC / x86 environment.
I have a Samsung S20 FE I got for $50 last year that has the same chipset, RAM and OLED screen but 120hz. I use it with my GameSir X2 and it performs beautifully. If it wasn’t for this I would be all over the Retroid Pocket 5. Such a good product for $220-$250.
@@Watamel0n Just kept an eye out. She originally wanted $75. I asked if she’d do $50 if I came and got it right then and she agreed. It’s locked to Verizon but I don’t care because I just use it for gaming. Last of the “S” line that had an SD card reader.
I sense that if they don't fumble the ball, the odin 2 *portal* will be everybody's endgame device: screen the size of the steamdeck while being smaller, 1080p120, more power than you can use on android, decent price.
First of all, I’m super excited to dive into one of Russ’s depth reviews! Now, getting into it-honestly, for its price, the RP5 is a great option. It can emulate pretty much everything up to GameCube, PS2 (and I’m sure with the right tweaks, it’ll run whatever you throw at it), Wii, and even some 2D Wii U/Switch games. At one point, I considered getting the Odin 2, but if you want one with cool colors, you have to go for the Pro model, which starts at $369 plus shipping. At that price, it’s basically competing with a Steam Deck. Unfortunately, Android emulators just aren’t quite there yet when it comes to fully emulating Wii U/Switch. So, you end up with an expensive Android device that can’t perfectly handle those consoles. Not really the Odin 2’s fault, but it does affect its real-world usability. That’s where the RP5 shines-it’s a solid alternative at a much lower price for what most people are looking for in terms of retro emulation. And if you really want to emulate Switch… well, there’s always the option of getting an actual Switch. Cheers, Russ!
I don't mind where the analog sticks are as long as they're symmetrical, which is a major thing that makes the Retroid Pocket series my go-to. There's a million other retro handhelds for you to choose from if you like the asymmetrical layout. Keep the sticks symmetrical please.
Having a Wii U joypad style with both sticks on top would be nice on a device like this. You do have to hold it a bit differently though and it can be harder to reach the bumpers.
originally bought the white model, but it hasn't been shown ANYWHERE, as if it doesn't exists... I ended up contacting support and changing to a black model for what you pointed out in the impressions video about the screen. They did it within minutes and with no questions asked 10/10 service.
29:47 Honestly I can see "Green Dude/Boy Sailing (in a talking boat)" as a description someone who has no idea about the ins and outs of Gaming could give if they somehow wanted to buy The Windwaker.
I promised myself I would buy the next Retroid pocket device when released. But ultimately, I ended up buying the gamesir G8+ and loved that controller so much, I purchased an Alldocube mini turbo 8” tablet to go with the GameSir controller. Hopefully I won’t regret it over a RP5. Love the content, Russ. Thank you.
Possibly a silly question, but will your starter guide for the RP4/RP4 pro work with setting up the RP5? Or are you planning on doing an updated starter guide for the 5?
Hi, yes it will generally work the same, but I will also work on an updated guide too, just because there are some changes that have happened in the Android emulation space since the last video.
@RetroGameCorps awesome. No idea how long before I order one, or how long it will take to arrive. But if need be, it's good to know that I can make do with the old guide for now. Before I found your channel and got my Odin 2 I knew very little about retro handheld devices, emulation, bios files, button mapping, etc. But you're Odin 2 guide really taught me a lot in a short amount of time, so hopefully the RP5 will be a mostly intuitive experience for me as well. Thanks Russ, you're the best 👌
I mean, you're all welcome to call me crazy, but I went for the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro even when this was available for pre-order. There aren't that many Wii U or PS2 games on my list that are *must haves*. I'm able to run Morrowind, Wind Waker, Viewtiful Joe, and a ton of others off my RP4P. I'm also REALLY particular in how buttons feel and their placement. So when I saw this video about the performance for PS2 and Wii U, plus how the button action is, it made me very happy I stuck with the 4 Pro.
So for the easy systems ... no problem, but lots of other devices can emulate those well, too. For the challenging systems, it's hit and miss, and you'll likely need to tinker to get the best performance. For me, that puts it in no man's land. I'll buy something cheaper if i just want an SNES/Genesis machine. I'd spend more if I really wanted something that could reliably do Wii, PS2 and Switch. For now, I'm sticking with a controller bolted to my S24+ and waiting a year for the Retroid 6.
These new handhelds from Retroid and Anbernic look so nice, Pocket 5 and RG Cube in particular. I like Steam Deck and I play DS games on my phone, but these new emulation handhelds are really tempting. A few years ago these devices didn't have such a premium look. What's nice about the big players like Steam Deck and ROG Ally are the third party accessories and skins that are available
Although I already pre ordered the Odin 2 mini and I'm already extatic, I absolutely love the RP5's design! Beautiful screen, great controls and with that price it's hard to compete 😁😁😁
As these devices become more powerful I think it makes more and more sense to have analog stick on top. I think for the performance of the RP5 it still makes sense to have DPAd on top. But for the next iteration I'm hoping for analog stick on top
I think Analog stick on bottom is one of the major things that will keep me from getting it. For me, D pad on top is great for PS1 and below, but once you can do so much above that, including really good android gaming, it seems like a waste to focus on D pad. Odin 2 just looks a bit too chonky for me, want that Retroid form with analog on top!
@@MagusguileHaving both sticks below is absolutely terrible for shooters, and racing titles. It feels terrible speaking in terms of ergonomics. The Odin mildly suffers from this issue with only the right stick being placed lower, but I digress. Having grown accustomed to the Steam Deck, its ergonomics feel way too natural, and it's almost ruined other handhelds because of them for me.
Wow, video uploaded 16 seconds ago! In the Pocket Test, that you were so kind enough to do. You mixed it up, and instead of your usual baggy shorts (Hawaiian Special) you wore Chinos! And as you say, and as we can see it does "fit" into your pocket barely, but it is far from being comfortable. I would agree with you and say the Retroid Pocket 5 is NOT pocketable. I think the new Retroid Pocket Mini probably is. These devices are getting too large to grab and take it with your keys, wallet, and phone. It is why the Retroid Pocket 2S was such a good product, and where the 4 Pro has issues. At these larger sizes, I think the logical thing would be to get something even more comfortable, which would probably be the Valve Steam Deck. Great video, and happy gaming !!!
Preordered the black one but I’m a little disappointed that PS2 performance isn’t as good as I thought. Could it be better with the final release with the extra work going into A13?
The Retroid Pocket 5 uses a CPU from 2019 while the Odin 2's is from 2022. I still can't wait for my Pocket 5. I like the smaller design of the Odin and AMOLED is amazing.
Not by close, just look how these device are evolving, I'm amased how many different and quality options are there. More powerfull with better screens and better ergonomics. Competition newer was so fierce. I think we will have many great devices in future, for sure.
Hi Russ, enjoyed your content. Top class as always. Hope you make a backup channel in the future, just in case on all the recent Nintendo attacks on this channel.
Love your videos, bought my Gameboy-adjacent handheld based on your reviews. been thinking about a larger model, specifically to play Champions of Norrath - wouldn't complain if this was included in reviews more, like your older videos! =D
Depends from what you wanna do, and how much money you wanna spend. I buyed rp5 in pre-order, and I payed 190 euros. The odin 2 pro cost about 370 euros
Odin 2 mini or Odin 2? Both Odin 2s face buttons are 2x superior, and the back buttons + ergonomics are great, but the the size personally was a bit too large for me. Otherwise its the best in class device. The odin 2 mini i like more, but I found it too thick, and the lack of handle curves was a downgrade, but is still fantastic. I would prob recommend the retroid pocket 5 for other people because while the face buttons are noisy and not as good feeling, its prob the least concerning for the average person. For me however, face buttons are a literal dealbreaker because its what Im always pressing regardless of analog or D pad, and tactility and good feeling are essential, so I myself would go odin 2 mini.
Bought an Odin 2 Mini a few months back so have absolutely no interest in buying anything else for a long long time, but still couldn't wait to watch this review.
@@rottentomatoes5171 Why dont you buy the odin 2 portal for $80 more? I think the pre order price is still available and you just have to spent $10 more ($310).
This is my first true retro handheld that I'll be buying and I'm so excited, I currently use my rog ally for emulation but the size makes playing on the go or at work a bit tiresome so having a pocketable handheld like this will be perfect
Babe babe wake up a new in-depth review for a hype handheld that I have no plans to buy but am still emotionally invested in just dropped
If I had the money, I would probably get it.
more like im watching hours and hours of reviews even though i purchased it. :)
I wonder if he'll do another in depth review for the final retail version..
@@MoonRoomOfficialsame 😂
@@MoonRoomOfficial dissonance-reducing post buyer behaviour 😂 aka "i was right to buy it"
I dont even plan to buy this handheld. I just watch the video because your reviews are always so good!
Guy is incredible, one of the best ways to make informative buying decision.
agreed. great review style + information!
I agree. I watch because Russ provides quality content.
You’ll buy it 😂😂
Same, I have psp from 2009 as my emulation machine (it's still amazing!!) but I love the handhelds, don't plan on buying but fun to watch what's new.
Why do I have a feeling I’ll be coming back to watch this a few times
Know thyself
Totally. Esp after my money flies away and get this 😂
Green Dude Sailing is one of my favorite Ningrundo Wuu I games.
i too love Green Dude Sailing, but i think i like more Almost Green Dude Raiding
@@AlejandroScrivano Masked Green Dude is also great
Green dude wild breathing
You mean The Wind Waker Tm from the Nintendo (r) Gamecube system.
@@afteryourburial careful there, a bit close to a litigious companies IP. I think you mean Green Dude Respiring of the Untamed
I know it's not for the happiest of reasons, but I've really been enjoying the diversity of games you've been looking at in your recent reviews.
Right? That egg rolling one looked interesting!
Russ is absolutely making the most of his situation. Mad respect. Also yeah, I agree! It's really fun to see new and unusual titles, and less nostalgia pandering. Even though many Nintendo titles are considered GOATs for good reason.
@@bobcake8904I think that was Billy Hatcher. It’s great. Made by Sonic Team
its nice because it provides a lot more games that you'll know emulators will run. everybody knows [nintendo game] will run, and sometimes random 3rd party stuff won't run at all
I went all out today and am watching this with a plate of breakfast tacos and a drink. I am ready for this long video.
Sounds like heaven
Is a breakfast taco a hard shell or soft shell? And what is in one?
Good for you. I’m waiting when my kids will go sleep xd
@@inspectorvoid its essentially egg, bacon and beans in a flour tortilla. Its one of the staples in the Food Pyramid in the state of Texas.
that's a hell of a snack.
"it is so good that it makes me wish that it could do more". Nailed my addiction with these things on the head.
Oh man, "green dude sailing" is a classic.
Whats the actual name of that game, i couldn't tell.
Edit- thank u guys for not telling me a thing, now i know its zelda
@@_unknown_7104says right at the top, "Green Sailing Dude". Duh.
One of my favorites in the “Green Dude" series
@@azshorty2003i think the green dude wakes up with the wind
@@_unknown_7104 "its dangerous to go alone! Take this."
The retro gray is soooo much nicer, but that black OLED blending in to the black glass is a game changer… DAMN IT
I still like the gray more. The black one feels like cheap steam deck or smthng aaa replica
Let's go! Your last video pretty much made my decision. I hope you realize how much you can move this market sometimes lol
He does 😂
I got my coffee, snack, and some Retro Game Corps. My day starting off perfect!
This channel is simply so satisfying to watch.
Please never again apologize for how long these videos get...idc if it was a full 24 hour clip lol it's worth every second every time. Thank you for your time and you work and most importantly your attention to detail. I know for sure these vids take a toll on you. We are grateful 🙏🏼
Thanks Russ! I ordered my Odin 2 a few weeks ago, and have since just had that little nagging doubt that I should have perhaps waited til the release of the Pocket 5 and your reviews to compare.
I remain very happy with my choice in the Odin 2, though I this one does give it a close race and I can see it being a tough choice for a lot of people! As usual your reviews help make those choices more informed, and it's always just great to see how these devices are evolving.
Keep up the great work!
Funny enough, I've been leaning towards getting an RP5 and then I see this and I'm all "....do I spend a bit more for the Odin 2?" Back to more research
The fact that only started looking at affordable handheld devices like the R36S this morning and was looking for something with more power. Then this video drops… It’s a sign that I need an RP5
My advice is to just bite the bullet and get the more powerful handheld. I bought a r36s, then smart pro and now looking to upgrade again. Trying to decide between retroid packet or just getting a rog ally
@@kevinschmidt9482get an Odin 2 it’s better for emulation and has good battery, also much more powerful than the rp5 just buy the base model for 300 and get a 512gb sd card and you’ll be set
Been rocking retroid devices since the 2+. They're quality, do it if it's feasible bro
R36 is ass 😂
Love your videos and your transparency. I think the answer is clear: budget. Under 250 there's no one better. Under 350 the Odin 2 base still rocks. Saludos desde España.
The Joyce Manor shirt is a good touch. You never disappoint with the band shirts, Russ.
They are so good! Saw em live years back. Incredible.
I have seen them twice, always great live! One of the best shows I ever went to was Joyce manor, the story so far and mom jeans 3 years ago. Hype af.
@@Flibbertyjib that's dope! I saw them with wavves!
“Yeah man, I wanna watch it” Thanks for the great content Russ!
We ordered the black version because the OLED screen will really hide the black bars in 4:3 aspect ratio games. Thank you for the review and congrats for excelent contents as well!
I don't even pick a pair of socks in the morning before I've heard Russ' opinion on the matter.
Me watching a Russ review of 4 different pairs of socks so you specifically no longer have to pick lmao
I've been waiting for this one. Newer to the channel, and this will be my first handheld like this I've ever used!
I recommend you to get ayn odin 2 instead. You will emulate switch, pc and vita games better. Also better ps2, gc emulation on higher resolution.
@@Sigma-0289 Thank you for the recommendation. I definitely will look into it. I know right now my main focus is playing through the Pokemon games. Games like Coliseum, Gale of Darkness, etc I never owned so I'm excited to play. Then of course, I think Stretch from NBA Street Ball Vol. 2 is calling my name as well!
If I end up getting use out of it and learning the emulator/ROM process better, then I will most likely order an upgrade to play better resolution for a Bday gift in 6 months or so. Money isn't necessarily an issue, but I'm cheap. Ha!
I actually dont recommend the odid 2 as a starter device, Retroid is more catered to beginners, But if you know android and want a little bit better specs, then yeah the odin 2 is a great device, I just perfer the smaller form factor of the Retroid 5
@@The100PercentRealWaluigi neither RP 5 nor Odin 2 are pocketable. What difference does size really make? RP mini or Odin 2 mini is another story.
Hearing about the inconsistent emulation on higher end systems makes me hesitate on getting this device. I appreciate your detailed reviews and take your insights at high value. I am going to have to really consider which pricier handheld I end up getting.
Honestly, what higher end systems are you emulating? Don’t say switch because that’s currently dead for all android based handheld, meaning inconsistent performance either way, capped by software. PS2? I would say with the right configurations 95% of the game catalogue can be ran on the RP5. You can buy get an Odin 2 portal but you’ll be paying $200 for switch and some higher end ps2 emulation.
@@StopToBreathe Seconding this.
How about original Xbox? Will it emulate that?
ive been debating either getting rp5 or Odin 2 and I decided to go with the latter. I'd rather pay the extra $80 just so i don't have to fiddle with settings just to play any gc or ps2 game
@@Bashh24 I was able to get a steam deck on sale for $297 so the Odin 2 kinda seems pointless
$250 including shipping. It's so purdy. I seriously thought about adding it to the glass case collection. Ever since I saw the mini, I was really drawn to that glass front. Then I remembered that I had bought a PS Vita 1000 for $80 that was waiting attention from a long list of to do's. I bought a $8 card adapter and a $40 512GB sd card. I tried the new Vita hack (that's a lot easier than the first one). Now I've got a glass front handheld that plays my whole psone, psp, and psvita library. Then I took $110 and bought a Intel 12th Alder Lake N100 Mini PC--NucBox G2 (16Ram/512Gb) on today's Ali 11.11 sale. It was a tough call but I'm happy with what I got.
That’s an amazing price on the Vita, I got my Vita slim for about 150$
@@Eragonfrost Yeah, I bought it as my 3rd vita. I already had my original 1000 and I bought a panda white slim model in box for 170$. Then I saw that 80$ 1000 at an electronics market and was like, "Dammit, now I have to buy this too or I'll regret it later." I also give custom systems away to close friends and family. It's like giving friends mixed tapes in the 80s, but better.
Man, that "Green Dude Sailing" game is a classic... :P
I'm impartial to the red dressed plumber man game myself
I'm more of an off-brand Pal World fan myself
@@toasty4000000 "we gonna sue 'cos people have the nerve to like it more than our own glitchy pokey version"
What’s this games actual name
@Gakkad I assume it's Zelda Wind Waker...
Great review, and exactly what we expected. Not really sure why so many people are interpreting this review as “performance bad, buy Odin”. Again this is a mid tier device, under $250 that will still play everything the RP4 pro did, as well as some high end emulation (which will only get better after updates), and a better display / premium design. If performance is your main factor then you’ll always be looking at Odin, as it will always be the higher end option so that the two products do not offset each other given they’re sibling products marketed at different cost categories.
Watching this to validate the RP5 I ordered after watching your first impressions video 😭
Literally me 😂
Same here. But I thought it will handle PS2 with ease, so thinking about cancelling…
Please cancel and get an Odin 2 instead
always dangerous watching his videos
I got it because I have the 2plus and have been eye these up since, but I'm worried the tariffs coming are going to fuck these prices hard.
Wow I haven’t tuned in for a while, talk about a massive upgrade in lighting and review and video quality!! Love it. Thank you RGC for fuelling my passion with retrogaming!
Welcome back!
Hinting at the portal, can't wait for that review.
That is a really great review! Thank you very much for taking the time to make such a great content ! I'll be waiting for the RP5 pro 😊
I purchased this for my wife and I as our first emulator handheld. I am still interested in the Odin 2, but the design and screen of the RP5 sold me. If I was going to spend as much for an Odin or Odin Portal, I think I would just get the Steam Deck and that's not what I'm after. It can play the vast majority of PS2 games, but most PS2 games I want to play have a Gamecube version (sometimes superior). And I prefer playing Switch games on Switch for now because I don't want to emulate my own Switch games and I would be tempted to emulate games I don't own for an in-production modern console.
I agree. Plus, it’s already pretty hard to choose what game to play on these devices. Don’t need a few thousand more to distract me.
As an Odin 2 Base owner, I am very happy with the device, but based on your needs/wants with emulation, I think the RP5 will do everything you’re looking for.
I have this on the way. Will original Xbox be possible?
@@antiantifa886Possibly in the future, but not for now.
@@antiantifa886Possible but not optimal. See 20:10
Gamecube Color for the question at the end =) thanks for that video, and thanks for pointing that stick in the way thing. Still, can't wait to receive it !
I pre-ordered my Retroid Pocket 5 had to change it to Black cuz it looks so good and it's been a year of Retro gaming for me Thanks to Russ and thank you for wearing jeans for the pocket test I appreciate that
I ordered the GameCube version with the Ice Blue back plate mod. Can’t wait for it to ship and get my hands on it! Love your videos and just how honest you are in your reviews!
I already have an odin 2, and miyoo mini plus. My first android handled was a retroid pocket 2 that things was amazing. I just ordered this RP5 I'm exciting having it back in the family
Man I first saw you videos when I was looking for reviews for the retroid pocket 2. RP's and your channel have come a long way!
Great stuff!
Finally, somebody did this comparison between Linux and Android in battery life. Thanks.
Based on the comments im seeing, im onr of the only people who clicked this vid because im genuinely considering getting this device. Amazing review as always, i appreciate everything you do dude!
Very nice video Russ, I had preordered the RP5 for my fiance to get the promo pricing as this looked like the best handheld for the money and I'm happy to see reviews like yours affirming my assumptions, with the only real gripe being the positioning of the left joystick I can't wait for her GC RP5 to ship so I can get it loaded up with games and give it a spin. Hopefully emulation in android on the later nintendo consoles improves to the point of being able to run more complex titles on the 865 to make this a nearly timeless machine.
As someone who has an s20fe with a gamesir g8 on it, seeing that the pocket 5 is basically that feels kinda funny to me. Because it makes sense why Retroid is going with these specs. You'll find all over online for people who want to get into gaming emulation with enough power but on a budget, most people would say to get an s20 or LG V60. Now that they're 4 years old and samsung has officially stopped updating the s20 line as of October, there's probably a lot of left over stock/used phones from Samsung and LG for Retroid to just take and turn into a handheld.
The s20 and v60 both have the snapdragon 865 cpu, Adreno 650 gpu, 8gb ram, and amoled screen, all which the RP5 has. So if you have either of those phones, you'll have a pretty good idea of how this device may work for you.
If I didn't already have 846,000 handhelds I'd be interested in this, it's probably the best thing for emulation on the market right now
key words are "right now"
So tempting and amazing review as always Russ but I think I'm going to hold off until I see your Odin 2 Portal review. Wouldn't want to have buyer's remorse after I buy my RP5 😅
Watching Russ always brightens my day, what a great guy
Outstanding review. Very premium indeed. Great work Russ 👌
I'll watch this later this evening (I'm in Ireland).
I've already pre-ordered the GC colour but, I'm looking forward to watching this.
Out of interest, did you order from Retroid direct? Did you use 4px or DHL for shipping? apparently 4px will get past customs for VAT.
Hello fellow Irishman 🇮🇪
Remember to vote 29th Nov 👍
I won't be able to because of vacation (cheers Simon)
and taking some of Retro Game Corps Russ's advice, I didn't bring 3 handhelds along. The most pocketable one wins this time around for the airport "lounge"/transit time 😊
@@DragonDreamVNY Hey man, cheers for the comment!
I will indeed be voting on the 29th. 🍻🇮🇪
The beauty of these videos is they are somehow re-watchable!! I’m brand new to handhelds and I’ve only done simple emulating in the past. I got the RP mini when it came out and I’ve had it for like 3 weeks. It’s such an awesome starter device I can play up to PS2 without issue (some PS2 games do struggle) plus the Wii games I’ve tried work well too. I’m experimenting with new stuff and as I progress I’ll move up to trying out tougher things like Wii U, switch, pc ports, android gaming, etc. and maybe by the time I get good at that stuff on my PC (nothing fancy but a solid gaming laptop) maybe I’ll be looking for a bigger and more powerful device and maybe the RP6 will be on the horizon then. Anyway all this to say great video I really appreciate your honest opinions and how you try to help us make these tough decisions. To quote you, Russ, in an older video, when you’re looking for a device you are looking for what’s the best fit RIGHT NOW based on what you wanna play. And then you just go from there. Just the nature of this beast
RP5 is super tempting, but I think I'll wait for the Odin 2 Portal, it's looking to check all the boxes
Exactly what I'm waiting for as well 👍🏻.
I’ll be ordering my RP5 in black here in the next couple weeks, and I’m super excited for it! I’ve loved the 3+ and 4 Pro a lot already, and I’m sure I’ll love the 5 as well. I *do* have the Odin 2 Pro on the way yet, hoping it’ll be in any day now, but that form factor and screen are too good to pass up. It’ll be a wonderful addition to my collection!
Whew, I was worried that I made a mistake buying an Odin 2 Pro, but now I am relieved!
Odin 2 is still THE KING!!!
Yes, but wayyy uglier
It's over twice the price...
The odin 2 will be fine until the next chipsets come out
Until the OLED version comes out!
I would hope so for that price point lol
It’s been a Great Journey following you with the Retroid Series, planning on getting my Own soon!
I bet Russ is going to love the Odin Portal.
It is really amazing that the competition can't do nothing to surpass the ODIN 2. Thanks to you I decided to purchase it at March and it really deserved it, and it is really nice to see it being compared to nowadays handhelds and being better than them. Thanks Russ for an exceptional review once again! You owe us a review of the AYN super dock though (just a friendly reminder) :)
That bezel-less OLED screen and the lighter weight has me totally sold over the Odin. Can't wait for mine to arrive. 🤩
Have fun playing Switch games on your RP5...oh wait 😢
@@EliHank Lol. You can't kill my vibe, Dude. Switch is not a true portable IMO. Half the RPGs I want to play on the Switch the text is too small to read in handheld mode without going blind. I play my Switch games on a PC Emulator in 4k, it's a much better experience (and yes, I own the originals too). I do however have a backlog of PS2, PSP, Vita and GameCube games that are going to look magnificent on this. 😊
@@raeldor lol I was just messing with you man. RP5 is absolutely incredible for what it is, especially at that price point. Think I'll still buy the Odin 2 Portal this year and maybe just wait for the RP6 but I don't fault anyone that buys an RP5 right now. Enjoy 👍🏻
@@EliHank Hehe, thanks. I would consider the portal, but it's a whopping 415 grams, and probably a bit overkill for my needs. My ideal would be the RP Mini if it had edge-to-edge screen.
if you want a bezel-less experience, the Odin 2 Portal could be an option as well. It's not out yet (they should start shipping in late december), but it's pretty much the Odin 2 with a much better screen for nearly the same price.
Great review! I'm getting the black one for sure! If I can play up to the GameCube console this is all I need right there. That AMOLED screen looks great! Looks like an endgame console for me! Can't wait to have it!
Thanks Russ answered my questions. I will wait for the Odin 2 portal. 👍
This is the first handheld in a long time that got me excited. I want it to run Batocera and they are working on that. Exciting times.
The design looks so nice!
Looks generic and uninspired, imo.
Think it looks fantastic, not too flashy and a bit more mature than the other retro consoles that look more like toys
Really appreciate your reviews.
Been eyeing a handheld to play older backlogged titles but always been ignorant/intimidated about emulation and such.
Currently wavering between this and the Odin 2. Thanks again!
Love the Joyce Manor shirt!
Had to hunt to find this comment, never seen that shirt but love me some Joyce Manor! I got a heart tattoo!
bro has good taste
Thank you for this one. It feels like, that this was the most honest review for this device so far.
And it helped me choosing my second device.
I wish retroid would take a shot at making a windows or steam OS based handheld. They have the retro market cornered when it comes to their devices but all their newest devices have that "its ALMOST perfect" feeling. its like they want to get as close as possible to high end emulation as possible without actually diving into it. at a $200 price point, its hard not to just recommend a used steam deck for a 100 bucks more if your goal is use high end emulators. if your not looking to emulate high end, the pocket 2S is a much better and cost efficient option.
the nicest thing I can say about the RP5 is "its the cheapest and most powerful handheld that can still fit in your pocket".
Yes there probably is a market for something in between a Steam Deck and this, in terms of cost / performance / size. TBF if they go with x86 based chips that would end up with a much higher power envelope. At least if using off the shelf parts, AMD and Intel's newest chips seem very power efficient, but they are optimised for general computing use and not ideal for a gaming handheld. Valve are moving units at a scale where they can justify getting a custom design made, Retroid aren't.
If think if they want to compete with PC handhelds the best way for them to do that right now is probably by sticking with ARM chips, and using compatibility layers like Wine / box86 etc so they can at least run lightweight / older games (which is what I've found I typically end up playing on my Steam Deck anyway). Winlator exists, but as the Retroid Pocket 5 also supports Linux (through Rocknix) that potentially offers an easier route, with reduced overhead, to emulating a PC / x86 environment.
I just ordered the GC version with the dock. $300 after shipping, fingers crossed that it's even half as good as you've convinced me.
I have a Samsung S20 FE I got for $50 last year that has the same chipset, RAM and OLED screen but 120hz. I use it with my GameSir X2 and it performs beautifully. If it wasn’t for this I would be all over the Retroid Pocket 5. Such a good product for $220-$250.
damn, that was a good deal
Yeah I'm in 2 minds, I've got a Steam Deck, a Switch and old android phone with a gamesir x2 that runs up to PS2 fine 💀 but damn this looks good
I seriously dont know where you guys get these amazing deals :D
@@Watamel0n Just kept an eye out. She originally wanted $75. I asked if she’d do $50 if I came and got it right then and she agreed. It’s locked to Verizon but I don’t care because I just use it for gaming. Last of the “S” line that had an SD card reader.
Really appreciate an honest look at the pros and cons of this device! One of your best reviews, yet, Russ! 🍻🤘🏼🔥
That almost edge to edge oled display is really what sold me
Just ordered, thanks for the review, It'll be a nice upgrade from my Retroid 2s
I sense that if they don't fumble the ball, the odin 2 *portal* will be everybody's endgame device: screen the size of the steamdeck while being smaller, 1080p120, more power than you can use on android, decent price.
First of all, I’m super excited to dive into one of Russ’s depth reviews!
Now, getting into it-honestly, for its price, the RP5 is a great option. It can emulate pretty much everything up to GameCube, PS2 (and I’m sure with the right tweaks, it’ll run whatever you throw at it), Wii, and even some 2D Wii U/Switch games. At one point, I considered getting the Odin 2, but if you want one with cool colors, you have to go for the Pro model, which starts at $369 plus shipping. At that price, it’s basically competing with a Steam Deck.
Unfortunately, Android emulators just aren’t quite there yet when it comes to fully emulating Wii U/Switch. So, you end up with an expensive Android device that can’t perfectly handle those consoles. Not really the Odin 2’s fault, but it does affect its real-world usability.
That’s where the RP5 shines-it’s a solid alternative at a much lower price for what most people are looking for in terms of retro emulation. And if you really want to emulate Switch… well, there’s always the option of getting an actual Switch.
Cheers, Russ!
I don't mind where the analog sticks are as long as they're symmetrical, which is a major thing that makes the Retroid Pocket series my go-to. There's a million other retro handhelds for you to choose from if you like the asymmetrical layout. Keep the sticks symmetrical please.
Having a Wii U joypad style with both sticks on top would be nice on a device like this. You do have to hold it a bit differently though and it can be harder to reach the bumpers.
Hey Russ, love your reviews! I've just bought the RP5 black version. Can't wait to play with this amazing handheld!
Ayn Odin 2 portal 7inches and oled screen and if u are the early bird , u can buy it at 299 same as Odin 2 base model.
originally bought the white model, but it hasn't been shown ANYWHERE, as if it doesn't exists... I ended up contacting support and changing to a black model for what you pointed out in the impressions video about the screen. They did it within minutes and with no questions asked 10/10 service.
29:47 Honestly I can see "Green Dude/Boy Sailing (in a talking boat)" as a description someone who has no idea about the ins and outs of Gaming could give if they somehow wanted to buy The Windwaker.
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What’s that game? Wind Breaker? This is clearly Green Dude Sailing
yeah man, its Green Dude Sailing.
I promised myself I would buy the next Retroid pocket device when released. But ultimately, I ended up buying the gamesir G8+ and loved that controller so much, I purchased an Alldocube mini turbo 8” tablet to go with the GameSir controller. Hopefully I won’t regret it over a RP5. Love the content, Russ. Thank you.
Possibly a silly question, but will your starter guide for the RP4/RP4 pro work with setting up the RP5? Or are you planning on doing an updated starter guide for the 5?
Hi, yes it will generally work the same, but I will also work on an updated guide too, just because there are some changes that have happened in the Android emulation space since the last video.
@RetroGameCorps awesome. No idea how long before I order one, or how long it will take to arrive. But if need be, it's good to know that I can make do with the old guide for now. Before I found your channel and got my Odin 2 I knew very little about retro handheld devices, emulation, bios files, button mapping, etc. But you're Odin 2 guide really taught me a lot in a short amount of time, so hopefully the RP5 will be a mostly intuitive experience for me as well.
Thanks Russ, you're the best 👌
@@RetroGameCorps
how much time do you spend ediing videos. have you ever thought about hiring a video editor?
I mean, you're all welcome to call me crazy, but I went for the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro even when this was available for pre-order. There aren't that many Wii U or PS2 games on my list that are *must haves*.
I'm able to run Morrowind, Wind Waker, Viewtiful Joe, and a ton of others off my RP4P. I'm also REALLY particular in how buttons feel and their placement. So when I saw this video about the performance for PS2 and Wii U, plus how the button action is, it made me very happy I stuck with the 4 Pro.
So for the easy systems ... no problem, but lots of other devices can emulate those well, too.
For the challenging systems, it's hit and miss, and you'll likely need to tinker to get the best performance.
For me, that puts it in no man's land. I'll buy something cheaper if i just want an SNES/Genesis machine. I'd spend more if I really wanted something that could reliably do Wii, PS2 and Switch.
For now, I'm sticking with a controller bolted to my S24+ and waiting a year for the Retroid 6.
These new handhelds from Retroid and Anbernic look so nice, Pocket 5 and RG Cube in particular. I like Steam Deck and I play DS games on my phone, but these new emulation handhelds are really tempting. A few years ago these devices didn't have such a premium look. What's nice about the big players like Steam Deck and ROG Ally are the third party accessories and skins that are available
I always get confused: is Green Dude Sailing the monarchs' daughter or the main character?
Although I already pre ordered the Odin 2 mini and I'm already extatic, I absolutely love the RP5's design! Beautiful screen, great controls and with that price it's hard to compete 😁😁😁
"Green Dude Sailing" lmao incredible
I had no plans buying this before - now I have even less plans buying it. Phenomenal video
As these devices become more powerful I think it makes more and more sense to have analog stick on top.
I think for the performance of the RP5 it still makes sense to have DPAd on top.
But for the next iteration I'm hoping for analog stick on top
I think Analog stick on bottom is one of the major things that will keep me from getting it. For me, D pad on top is great for PS1 and below, but once you can do so much above that, including really good android gaming, it seems like a waste to focus on D pad. Odin 2 just looks a bit too chonky for me, want that Retroid form with analog on top!
@@MagusguileHaving both sticks below is absolutely terrible for shooters, and racing titles. It feels terrible speaking in terms of ergonomics. The Odin mildly suffers from this issue with only the right stick being placed lower, but I digress.
Having grown accustomed to the Steam Deck, its ergonomics feel way too natural, and it's almost ruined other handhelds because of them for me.
I hope they keep analog stick on bottom, just because that's what I like and that's already rare outside of specifically PS controllers.
13:00 That B roll is amazing! great job there
You're the man, Russ!
Thanks for reading the comments, engaging with us, and doing me a favour with that Fashion Modelling 😂
Wow, video uploaded 16 seconds ago!
In the Pocket Test, that you were so kind enough to do. You mixed it up, and instead of your usual baggy shorts (Hawaiian Special) you wore Chinos!
And as you say, and as we can see it does "fit" into your pocket barely, but it is far from being comfortable. I would agree with you and say the Retroid Pocket 5 is NOT pocketable. I think the new Retroid Pocket Mini probably is.
These devices are getting too large to grab and take it with your keys, wallet, and phone. It is why the Retroid Pocket 2S was such a good product, and where the 4 Pro has issues. At these larger sizes, I think the logical thing would be to get something even more comfortable, which would probably be the Valve Steam Deck.
Great video, and happy gaming !!!
Thanks for the video. This confirms my choice for the black one. I play 99% of the time in the train to work the screen is a really big update for me.
Preordered the black one but I’m a little disappointed that PS2 performance isn’t as good as I thought. Could it be better with the final release with the extra work going into A13?
same here
The Retroid Pocket 5 uses a CPU from 2019 while the Odin 2's is from 2022. I still can't wait for my Pocket 5. I like the smaller design of the Odin and AMOLED is amazing.
We’ve come so far after 4 years of this amazing hobby. This is endgame devices.
Not by close, just look how these device are evolving, I'm amased how many different and quality options are there. More powerfull with better screens and better ergonomics. Competition newer was so fierce. I think we will have many great devices in future, for sure.
Lol no. Using a five year old CPU
All performance related testing aside, your choice of Chrono Trigger for the side-by-side comparison warms the heart.
Bro, when Odin 2 Portal Review :)
Hi Russ, enjoyed your content. Top class as always. Hope you make a backup channel in the future, just in case on all the recent Nintendo attacks on this channel.
Is it worth the bucks?
Love your videos, bought my Gameboy-adjacent handheld based on your reviews. been thinking about a larger model, specifically to play Champions of Norrath - wouldn't complain if this was included in reviews more, like your older videos! =D
ODIN 2 OR RP5? Which one should I buy?🤓
Depends from what you wanna do, and how much money you wanna spend. I buyed rp5 in pre-order, and I payed 190 euros. The odin 2 pro cost about 370 euros
Odin 2 mini or Odin 2? Both Odin 2s face buttons are 2x superior, and the back buttons + ergonomics are great, but the the size personally was a bit too large for me. Otherwise its the best in class device. The odin 2 mini i like more, but I found it too thick, and the lack of handle curves was a downgrade, but is still fantastic. I would prob recommend the retroid pocket 5 for other people because while the face buttons are noisy and not as good feeling, its prob the least concerning for the average person. For me however, face buttons are a literal dealbreaker because its what Im always pressing regardless of analog or D pad, and tactility and good feeling are essential, so I myself would go odin 2 mini.
i plan on buying this because i want to enjoy games when i travel.
Is that a retroid pocket 5 in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me 😂awesome review as always.
Thanks for the review Russ!
Happy to stick with my Odin 2 Pro 😅
38:12 Preach, my brother in Christ.
Lol
4 inches is average
Bought an Odin 2 Mini a few months back so have absolutely no interest in buying anything else for a long long time, but still couldn't wait to watch this review.
Well, this made me cancel the RP5 pre-order. I want effortless PS2; what good is that screen when I have to knock down to native?
There is no android device, that can play every ps2 game effortlessly.
On the same boat! I'm probably just going to pay $70 more just to buy the odin 2
@@rottentomatoes5171 Why dont you buy the odin 2 portal for $80 more? I think the pre order price is still available and you just have to spent $10 more ($310).
This is my first true retro handheld that I'll be buying and I'm so excited, I currently use my rog ally for emulation but the size makes playing on the go or at work a bit tiresome so having a pocketable handheld like this will be perfect