WHEY vs CASEIN
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Battle of the Protein Shake Supplements! Big Brother Whey Versus Little Bro Casein. Another great debate! Which protein supplement is better for your gains? Are there even any difference? Come find out!
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just in casein u didn't know, both are good either whey
Jansen Baja wheyman on that.
whey to go for that amazing comment
Jansen Baja go awhey with your bad puns
And thats the wheeeeyyyyy the news goes
im dying to these comments
i have a dream
That my family should stop thinking my supplements are steroids😥
Don't let your dreams be dreams!
Yaseen Sadan hahaha lmao. You aren't the only one bro. My mom thinks whey kills my kidney and liver. They other day I was feeling like shit cuz I was sad and my mom blamed supplements lol. The struggle is real
Emilio López haha I went through the same with my parents getting told how bad it was for my kidney
too much protein is considered bad for kidneys and/or liver
regardless of source
It was all a dream, I use to read Word Up magazine....Salt-N-Pepa and Heavy D up in the limousine.
guys, if you think casein is better, well all I can say is go awhey
khan ali stahp
khan ali 😏
spoiler alert
khan ali lol that was why funnier than it should have been XD
Case-in point
Use both. Period.
Whey after workout for convenience and Casein before going to bed and/or when going on long trips/won't be able to eat for a while.
Islam Abuauf that's pretty smart
that's not pretty smart... that's just obvious lol
That's not pretty smart or obvious, this is called bro science.
given that you know these different speeds of absorption of each protein shake, that's pretty obvious to me
Why should it be? Absolutely 0 study has proven anything about the power of the catabolism (or I missed it and I would be glad to see it :)). The research is pretty clear about the fact that keeping amino acid levels high in the blood is counter productive. Only the peak of BCAA is important (reason behind the fact the Whey is superior in gaining strength and mass). Looking at the evidences we can gather, this only seems to apply when one don't get sufficient protein intake. It seems that the more you take proteins, the less the timing and the protein type is important. I highly recommend you to read the studies from Brad Schoenfeld. They are always well designed, transparent and highly detailed. ;)
Casein point, you should whey your options when choosing a protein.
Such an underrated comment
Underrated comment jeez
My name is Wei, I didn't know Whey was pronounced Way like Wei until long after I started taking Whey, and I was like NO WAY?! I thought Whey was Wee, but no... Whey is Whey like Way, and Wei. So I'm gonna stick with Whey Hurray!
I loved this comment
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I like this comment
This is the whey!
Way to go, Wei.
If you can afford it, get both. Whey after the workout, and Casein before sleep.
Agreed. I just stick with Whey protein.
LordLofty y what if you go to the gym late like me. I have both but I don't go to the gym early so I cant do that
Muscle protein synthesis takes place during the first 24 to 48 hours after a workout. Taking whey post workout doesnt make a difference. There is no post workout anabolic window. What you want is steady flow of amino acids to your muscles, therefore casein is the best supplement. I started cutting down on whey and upping my casein intake a few weeks ago, never seen better effects. Not saying whey cannot build muscle. However, since muscle protein synthesis takes in 24-48 hours, you will need much more whey to give you the same effects as the steady flow that casein can give you.
LordLofty y, do you do this every day or just on workout days?
whey before gym for more energy, whey after gym if you did't have a pre-workout meal. is this accurate?
I've always been a fan of utilizing both. Whey throughout the day when you are actually active, and a casein shake right before going to sleep. You won't feel so starved when you wake up in the morning, and the slower digestion/absorption of casein will last the whole night, rather than the first couple of hours. If you are going to go a long while without food (maybe you're at work and don't get frequent breaks), maybe switch to casein for that instead. Everyone's body is different, everyone's schedule is different. Figure out what works best for you.
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another quality vid, idk how I found this channel but I'm glad I did
You are awesome for taking the time to explain all of this so throughly and clearly. Very useful! Thank you so much!
Love your videos!! They're straight to the point unlike most videos I've been seeing. Can you do a video on how to track your consumed calories?
Thank you for the info! It takes lots of reading through specialized articles to get the info and draw the results! Something I can't do . Thank you for providing me with the useful information for free that will help me in daily life !
Love these videos. I actually take a protein blend after working out that contains both whey and casein, along with other proteins like egg. Seems to do the trick for me and is definitely easier on the wallet than buying both separately.
Casein is so much more versitaile, 50g neutral Casein + 180g milk, ~10g baking coco, sweetner, mix it up and throw it in the fridge for a few minutes = Chocolate Pudding. Also in Pancakes Casein is much superior because it makes them much fluffier.
I need to try that magic protein
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maybe if they werent so bad for you lol
Plat inum salt? :/ was just kidding :/
kevin lajara nah I wasn't being salty :P
Plat inum Whatever you say..
Love this channel ! Great work !
Thanks for the video. I'm 68 years old. Given I'm in the age group for concerns regarding sarcopenia, the loss of skeletal muscle mass due to aging, I am eliminating supplementing whey protein. I will continue supplementing casein to augment my protein source if foods . I'm focusing on the long run minimal impact of sarcopenia.
Great timing. Gonna mix both right now. Now a video on Protein powder VS BCAAs please.
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Una explicación perfecta! Me ha aclarado mucho las dudas que tenía y me ha permitido identificar de una forma sencilla y rápida qué es lo que más me conviene. Gracias por el contenido!
Casein at night was a wonder maker for me. it depends on ones body, but the slow protein release definitely yielded me more lean gains than whey did. could vary from person to person
Do you still feel the same 6 years later ?
5:27 "If you're a whey guy, go away." 😂
Awesome video brother! keep up the good work!
Awesome stuff!
Hey can you do a video on protein bars?
If they work and if their ingredients are safe
they are bullshit instead eat real food
also they contain bunch of sugar
Goat T haha
Peter Svoren what's so funny ??
Peter Svoren its true
why not both?
fai latief ultimate gains
exactly casein at night before sleep and whey every 3h
@Rafy are you selling that stuff? That might explain your logic.
fai latief Por que no los dos?
fai latief Nobody has said NO. It is only a comparative video.
Great video, as usual. You are gifted.
Thanks!
Great video!
The answer to most of these videos:
IT DEPENDS
There, saved you the trouble. But watch the video anyway because it's good knowledge regardless.
can you do a video on overtraining effects/symptoms/ and how to avoid it?
Great Video
Hi. I sincerely enjoy all your videos! Can you please do videos on Energy Systems: ATP-PC, Glycolytic and Oxidative? Thanks.
just found your channel recently ... great content I really appreciate the hard work.
so since both whey and casein are from milk ... does drinking milk reap all the benefits? and if so are there any down sides? plus how much should one drink to get an equivalent of a scoop of each?
The "downside" of milk is that it contains all the natural ingredients, including lactose and fat. For people that are seeking protein exclusively, the other natural ingredients aren't desired.
A typical protein shake contains roughly 25-35g of protein per scoop. You can compare that to a serving of milk and multiply it accordingly.
PictureFit Thanks
did the calculation roughly 1L = 1 scoop ... keep up the great work
Can you do a video on plant protein vs whey protein?
Great video
It would be great to see a video on the links between protein and raised IGF1 and therefore cancer. Plus protein that doesn't increase risk e.g. plant sources
can you please make a video on a good healthy diet with timings and amounts of food consumed
(vegetarian)
Casein is the choice if you have a habit of eating before bedtime.I personally like to drink both because i focus on fast results with very hard training EVERYDAY. I have gained 5kg of muscle mass in just a few months. I also drink Amino Acids BCAA. I have also lost much fat percentage.
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HI there, nice video! Do you have any video about the timing of protein consumption you talked here?
Important benefits of casein protein:
Doesn't taste like old moldy cheese. Casein actually tastes so well that it is used in most protein bars.
It upsets the stomach a lot less and is less likely to give you head aches.
I like Whey for straight after my workout, and Casein for a bit later before bed.
So well explained
Thank you for the objective comparison so one can make their own choice.
Thanks for watching
I would go for both, but if I am budget tight, I prefer Casein only.. Since it protects muscle breakdown more effectively + natural foods which can balance the shortage that whey can provide. .
My goal lean muscle mass.. My body type= lean one..
Can u guys do a video on water retention? Thanks in advance..
Nazrie Shanusi Yes! This please!
Love your vids! please make a video on mass gainers
l think this chanel should have a million subscribers! 💪
So basically Whey for bulk and Casein for cut to preserve the most amount of muscle as possible?
Agro nopez
They both still can build muscle and prevent muscle breakdown. The differences are there, but not a big issue in the long run.
Or just take both and stop playing yourself with guesswork. Whey after your workout and Casein before bed. There you go.
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Could you mix these two in a single shake?
I need a workout plan made from you, also what should I eat
thank you!
I'd want to know if a mixture in both would be interesting. You'd get the early spike from the whey but the sustained levels from casein. But would it be better than a whey intake right before/after workout and casein during the day
You’ll be our first test subject 😃
It would maybe be the same...
With whey, you ideally want 29 grams of whey protein to get the 3 grams of leucine right after working out, so as the maximum anabolic response hits at the same time as the height of the muscle protein synthesis. If you mixed half and half (whey & casein), you would fall short of that 3g of leucine hitting ~2 hours after the intense workout.
With casein you get slow-release protein benefits during that extended not-peaked Muscle Protein Synthesis time.
So either maximise the short-term peak
Or get the benefits of the duration
Or mix them together and get less of a short-term peak, which is not ideal, but extra duration to make up for it. Since the anabolic response doesn't have to be maxed out to get benefits. Likewise the duration isn't as long, which isn't ideal, but the peak is higher. So maybe it's a wash.
So what if one got their full 3 grams of leucine via 29 grams of whey protein up front, and then 3 hours later once that peak wears off, drink the full amount of casein, to continue getting a protein supply during that Muscle Protein Synthesis (that lasts ages longer than I realised, after I started typing this comment)...
MPS (not the absolute peak) actually lasts so long that yea you could just consume casein whenever, there's no rush at all lol (or eat food instead if you want, that's also slow releasing like casein).
Edit: Wait I somehow just recalled that concentrate protein powders are often a blend. So your comment is already pretty standard practice in the industry. If you get isolates that won't be the case. I don't personally have a single use for isolates once I looked into what it actually is.
That would be like drinking milk😂
Let me guess: "It depends." -.-
Hey!
Could you create a video about the source and effects of the different essential amino acids?
thx :)
I like your vids, so i subbed !
Awesome man!
what if you mix them together in a whey-casein shake?
JoaniMaster that's the formula Bruce Banner made when he turned into the Hulk
You would get increased Leucine from the Whey but it would be released slowly
That would create an explosion bigger than splitting the atom.
mrusername09 thats probably how the universe began
you'd probably explode immediately after consumption.
Both are great.
Whey for breakfast & Casein for night time
awesome!
Muscle protein synthesis aside could you just take whey during the day to meet your daily intake of protein ??
Really enjoy your videos, cheers !
How much different would this be than just drinking whole milk with regard to muscle recovery?
Can you do a video on intermittent fasting?
TheSamRSS dont
hey I've got a few questions
first off, is whey powder (or casein I suppse ) good to use for workouts not including weight resistant training, like for calisthenics body weight training
also is it bad or have any effect if you use protein powder over a long period of time and then just stop using, or only occasionally use? does it mess with your body in any way by consuming it sporadically, like if your body is used to the regular protein intake from powder and then it gets cut off?
This is your best video !
Do a video about minimizing muscle breakdown when cutting.
Cyborg 1. Lift heavy 2. high protein. lmao Google can tell you that. why do you need a video on it?
Cyborg Izzy Narvaez has a video on that on his powerlifting to win channel, I think. He has great info on that stuff
cut down slow
1. Dont go for more than 20% below your maintenance calorie
2. Keep protein at 0.8g per kg of your weight
Dude this just came right on time! Ive been training in the gym for almost 2 years without any supplements, now my mom's friends gave me a 2lb whey protein I am really happy I always wanted one of this protein powders, they are ridiculous expensive here so I couldn't afford one.. I'm from Venezuela!
Ricardo117 did you increase mass and strength without the supplements?
Παντελης Σαχπαζιδης Of course he did..
Παντελης Σαχπαζιδης No, proteins primary function is just to speed up recovery and reduce lactic acid buildup. He will increase strength and mass over time, but it isn't immediate.
Ricardo117
PG productions HD
Good day, can you make a vid about complex protein supplements? thanks
I don't really take good advantage of the short mps time frame after a work out, yet I stay pretty active throughout the whole day. Seems like casein would be the better option for me
Whey: gainz
Casein: conserve gainz when done
so consume cassein after whey ?
can you do a mix of the two?
dang :(
Could you possibly make a video about weight gainers? Would appreciate it!
You should do a video on alternative (non-milk) proteins. I drink Vega which is a mix of pea, hemp, pumpkin seed, sunflower seed, and alfalfa proteins.
"Casein?!" I just call 'em "whey" and "no whey."
What I was able to withdraw from this video was that whey is to better build muscle whilst casein is to better preserve muscle.
Guess I'll use whey to help reach my physical goal and then use casein to preserve my physique God-willing I reach it.
Excellent informative video BTW!
Can you do a video dealing with plant based protein supps like Vega Sport...thanks!
4:57 can you make a video about food timing for powerlifting?
Lucille at the bottom of the bat lol.
Could I just take whey after workout and Casine before sleeping?
Yes, and you could just mix them together
Can you guys do a video on metabolic conditioning?
Hey can you please make a video on knee valgus and how to recover from it?
I know it might be a dumb question for experimented people, but do I need to take proteins 7/7 even though I’m training 4/7 or 5/7?
Yes
Why is casein the little bro as there is 4 times more of it in milk? Which also makes it interesting why is casein more expensive as a supplement than whey? Usually the rarer stuff is more expensive.
whey is probably easier to produce. i believe Whey is just a byproduct from cheese manufacturing, and they decided that rather than throwing that shit away, they'll add some fancy flavors (or not), package it and sell it for some pretty decent profit. why not make money off of stuff you just used to throw away amirite?
I use NutraBio Muscle Matrix Protein, which has a 55% Whey Isolate and 45% Casein blend (25g total protein) per serving. This is my go to protein. I take it in the morning, after workout, and before bed.
Could you do a video on the effects of carbonated drinks on gains?
Why can't you just mix both of them
Shane D do you mix them at the same time?
denzel dasma There's a name for that mixture. It's called milk lol!
Super late, but studies on this show an mutualistic effect (As one would expect) that outperforms the two taken alone. So, blends all the way baby.
There are a lot of protein supplements which have both mixed.
syntha 6
What is the best way to lengthen your abdomen? (horizontally not vertically as if I want to get taller)
I'll leave a checkpoint I wanna know too
you cant change the muscle shape, at least not naturally (without operation), it can only grow the way it is. Blame genetics for muscle form but not muscle size.
this. it's theorized to work, but it's believed to only adds about 1 inch to your overall length. this also has to be done before your skeletal plates have closed. holding your breath is also believed to increase natural HGH levels, so try holding your breath while doing H I I T, and it might give you a little growth spurt.
I phrased this kind of badly. What I meant is what is the best way to widen your abdomen? (Not get taller just have a wider lower frame)
Do a video about proper warm-up please!
I have a question, but before I do I want to say I subscribed to this channel and I love all the videos I've watched thus far. Very informative and entertaining. Will Gladly share when opportunity presents its self. Now to my question. Is someone who takes Whey, Casein or supplements considered all natural?
I would still consider them natural. When you start having to get a prescription or sticking needles into your body, then that would be something I consider "unnatural." Thanks for subscribing!
How about having them both together?
Sure if it works for you!
Sarath Sunil there are brands out there that sell blended protein powders so you get the benefits of both.
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How does working out increase bone density, Please do research on that, bone mass and exercise, and other benefits of lifting excluding muscle and weight loss.
could you please do a video on nutritional yeast?
Most of the casein in our markets are cheaper than most of the whey proteins.
+Zadimen sounds like an easy decision!
Hey PictureFit . Can you make a video about "Is steroid worth it?" . I really want to know what you think about it .
no it's not. just go natty. The health risks far outweigh the benefits.
yeahhh i well know about the health risk . I just want to know what PictureFit thought about it . Chill my friend .
He doesn't make video's on steroids. And If I may answer my self, no they are not. You will permanently fuck up your own testosterone production ( might become less than before ) and they can cause a lot of other side effects, if you stop using them you lose almost all the gains. And you can't use them for ever unless you want to get really ill, so you will lose it anyway. better is to focus on creating your own steroids ( testosterone production )
Why choose?
Get 'em both!
Can you compare these to plant based protiens
well, it's time to hit the gym and get wheysted XD XD
how about if you take both? whey after a workout and casine thru out the day?
PG productions HD explain? What you mean by easy way out?
Dennis Chavez you see, PG wants to make this harder for himself and therefore goes about judging people with a closed mind about things he believes should stay difficult
Brian Kid I'm just confused that's all ..im new to weightlifting don't judge me
Dennis Chavez oh lol I fixed my comment to be addressing the right person. Sorry doubt that
Brian Kid it's cool dude lol.
pictureFit which one should i take if im doing strength training like powerlifting
Now, that is why we recommend to take whey protein with a high protein and good diet throughout the day to keep supporting protein synthesis.