Reading Throne of Glass gave me Depression (part 1)

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  • @unorthodoxpeach
    @unorthodoxpeach 4 роки тому +2137

    The whole main character falling in love with one guy in the first book then ditching him for another guy for the rest of the series is a Sarah J Maas thing.

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 4 роки тому +169

      What I loved about this series tho is later on she ditches both of them for another guy😂 (but liked it wayy more that way)

    • @skyesamels3233
      @skyesamels3233 3 роки тому +237

      people don’t talk about this enough! i noticed a pattern with sarah j mass where she seemingly ditches the original idea for the series and in the first book and by the second it suddenly seems like a completely different story. this is the main reason i don’t read her books anymore-i can deal with development and change, but it’s annoying without purpose.

    • @aj_814
      @aj_814 3 роки тому +270

      don't forget the character assassination of the first guy just to make sure none of the readers want the main character back with him instead of the second guy

    • @--BACKTFUP
      @--BACKTFUP 3 роки тому +66

      @@aj_814 We all know who you’re talking about lmfao. And I still like that first guy.

    • @SirEriol
      @SirEriol 3 роки тому +86

      I genuinely believe she heard once that most epic fantasy series don't portray relationships in a modern way and she thought "Oh, I know. Break-ups".
      Because that's the one thing she does (besides having tattoed mates who happen to be exotic looking).

  • @djinnglebells241
    @djinnglebells241 4 роки тому +5190

    Its not a love triangle unless the prince and the captain of the guard also like each other, otherwise its a love bent line

    • @Spabibble
      @Spabibble 4 роки тому +267

      But Dorian and Chaol *do* love each other, just in a different way. They’re pretty much brothers.

    • @JustinPageSlayer
      @JustinPageSlayer 4 роки тому +88

      I honestly can’t tell if you’re being serious or not. But if you are, that’s not how love triangles work haha. But I’m pretty sure you’re joking, so if you are just ignore this 🙃

    • @Katerine459
      @Katerine459 4 роки тому +406

      @@JustinPageSlayer That actually IS how love triangles are supposed to work. Completely serious. A true love triangle has love, of *some* sort, between each of the three people involved. That's the difference between a true love triangle and a rivalry, and why love triangles are more interesting than rivalries, because there's so much more to them than just, "one person in love with two other people who are competing for his/her affection."
      @lesmolbean is also correct, though... this story is actually one of the few instances where people call it a love triangle, and it actually IS, because Chaol and Dorian do actually love each other, as "brothers."

    • @JustinPageSlayer
      @JustinPageSlayer 4 роки тому +46

      Katerine459 “While it can refer to two people independently romantically linked with a third, it usually implies that each of the three people has some kind of relationship to the other two.” While it’s meant to be implied, it doesn’t *have* to exist. Also, that’s Wikipedia because couldn’t find a definitive definition and that’s very annoying.
      Also, brotherly love really shouldn’t count because that’s a totally different kind of love and is in no way romantic.

    • @Katerine459
      @Katerine459 4 роки тому +154

      @@JustinPageSlayer Yes, it is annoying. But I remember the definition of a love triangle from my English class before Twilight got published and Meyer's insistence that there was a "love triangle" between Bella, Edward, and Jacob completely messed up everybody's definition of the term, so that true love triangles became much less prevalent, to the detriment of literature everywhere.
      Actually, the most common type of true love triangle DOES usually have brotherly love on one side, and romantic love on the other two sides. :) This is what lends the tension, with each person (that form the points on the triangle) not wanting to hurt the other two.

  • @yiyi3926
    @yiyi3926 4 роки тому +2187

    Oh. Edgy, strong female protagonist involved in a love triangle in a YA fantasy is the heir to a lost throne? You don't say!

    • @JackedThor-so
      @JackedThor-so 4 роки тому +132

      I'm starting to wonder if Buffy the Vampire Slayer is the only female character of a YA genre to escape this black hole of a trope.

    • @kayhaych05
      @kayhaych05 4 роки тому +121

      As soon as he mentioned that the rebels believed the princess was alive I was like 😒 let me guess. It’s her isn’t it?

    • @iq2381
      @iq2381 4 роки тому +10

      that sounds so clique

    • @WTKB82
      @WTKB82 3 роки тому +13

      If you take out the love triangle, it’s a typical male centered fantasy too.
      Most male centered fantasies have a singular based love interest but still fall into that

    • @lovelyhomeboy2782
      @lovelyhomeboy2782 3 роки тому +20

      @@WTKB82 nah they got harems whachu mean

  • @EspiritoDeDafne
    @EspiritoDeDafne 4 роки тому +2015

    What really bothered, despite being something smal that shoudn't bother me that much, is how her har is described as golden, but all the covers show her with a silver/white hair.

    • @caseybrenenstall5366
      @caseybrenenstall5366 4 роки тому +38

      Keep reading the series

    • @prakharsinha4822
      @prakharsinha4822 4 роки тому +9

      All the covers are stylized like that

    • @andrastoenescu8190
      @andrastoenescu8190 4 роки тому +6

      YES

    • @mariacastano8978
      @mariacastano8978 4 роки тому +92

      Idk the autor said something that the covers were black n white but idk it's pretty weird bc there are actually a lot of colors like blue red n golden but idk

    • @mashedpotetoo
      @mashedpotetoo 4 роки тому +20

      Cuz.... well spoilers
      She fae, that has to be the only explanation for it

  • @KatTalks
    @KatTalks 4 роки тому +1646

    "She kills the demon. She could have died, but she didn't"
    Have you ever sounded more disappointed?

    • @Barakon
      @Barakon Рік тому +13

      Just a worse version of David vs Goliath.

  • @renstrange8443
    @renstrange8443 4 роки тому +1211

    Fun fact: this series began as a Cinderella retelling SJM wrote when she was like 16. I've read part of it and it's interesting what was changed and what wasn't. The original tournament was between all women, for example. Dorian and Celaena were also endgame in the original.
    I've read the series was originally going to be a trilogy and I believe the original work (titled Queen of Glass) encompassed what was originally planned for the trilogy.
    All this is a long-winded way of saying you can absolutely tell this series was originally written and created by a teenager and that SJM didn't do enough to edit and rewrite it as an adult.

    • @TheKeyser94
      @TheKeyser94 4 роки тому +76

      Now the title make more sense.

    • @kickhighdragon6652
      @kickhighdragon6652 4 роки тому +109

      Interesting because her other maim series, a court of thorns and roses, is a beauty and the beast retelling (for fhe first book) and I've heard its worse than the throbe of glass series

    • @renstrange8443
      @renstrange8443 4 роки тому +59

      Kick high dragon Personally, I prefer the ACOTAR series, but take that with a grain of salt because now I don't really like either.

    • @spntageous5249
      @spntageous5249 4 роки тому +16

      weird because the first book in her other trilogy, A Court of Thorns and Roses, is basically a fantasy retelling of the Beauty and the Beast

    • @11_bhuvaneshwari85
      @11_bhuvaneshwari85 4 роки тому +22

      Ren Strange dorian and celaena as a ship made so much sense to me and I enjoyed the story and the action scenes thoroughly but I really disliked Aelin/Celaena throughout the books after book 3 and rowan just made her even more insufferable. I think she tried to do too much in the book? And her constantly putting Aelin in the spotlight wasn’t what annoyed me, the fact that the author made her so dynamic and multitalented to the point where a lot of the other characters basically became pointless to the plot? Like?? The other characters had a lot of potential for development, but it was spent revolving mainly around Aelin and that was quite disappointing. That being said, I really enjoyed reading the books (I’ve finished the series up until book 5) and it kept me on the edge of my seat. THAT being said, I would have enjoyed the trilogy idea way more, I think it would’ve made sure to filter out anything unnecessary.

  • @kathessler4090
    @kathessler4090 4 роки тому +2631

    Did I read most of the tog series and like it? yes. Am I still going to watch this hour long rant video and thoroughly enjoy it? also yes.

    • @EvilDickism
      @EvilDickism 4 роки тому +11

      Ewww

    • @fairycat23
      @fairycat23 4 роки тому +195

      Glad that you aren't shutting out different opinions on media! 😊

    • @EvilDickism
      @EvilDickism 4 роки тому +15

      @@fairycat23
      Who is shutting out anything ?
      I can have an opinion on her opinion.
      These books are bad

    • @kathessler4090
      @kathessler4090 4 роки тому +97

      @@fairycat23 yeah I mean it wasn't my favorite or anything I don't mind listening to someone rip it up lol

    • @Ana-y3b3v
      @Ana-y3b3v 4 роки тому +126

      @@EvilDickism on your opinion tho
      i gotta say that arguing with you would be childish af but srsly, no need to go all "eww" over someone liking something that you don't.

  • @AaronRotenberg
    @AaronRotenberg 4 роки тому +742

    _She finds a copy of The Walking Dead_ was the moment in this video that I stopped thinking "this sounds like typical YA power fantasy love triangle trash" and started thinking "wait, WHAT?"

  • @verybarebones
    @verybarebones 4 роки тому +2521

    The one thing im gonna defend is that yes getting your period after a period of amenorrhea is VERY important. So it makes sense it'd get mentioned. I do a lot of sports and losing your period or getting it again gets mentioned just like someone getting a knee injury or a blood blister, it's NOT anywhere near the same category as, let's say, going to take a piss in the corner or tracking bowel movements. It completely changes your performance for multiple days. So I don't believe it was distasteful to mention it.
    I know it's an extremely minor point, just wanted to add my perspective from an athlete's POV.
    Also I keep thinking the kingdom is called Amway lmao

    • @shanyajain5557
      @shanyajain5557 4 роки тому +52

      I agree!!

    • @miojogourmet7240
      @miojogourmet7240 4 роки тому +33

      Yeah girl, you're right!

    • @paulinakalinowska2142
      @paulinakalinowska2142 4 роки тому +131

      My thoughts exactly. It could be used for building tention, eg. she's about to fight some minor opponent but few hours before the fight - boom, period - and she isn't able to fight that day. Eg. "Berserk" utilised Casca's period in that way.

    • @knittingsofi7521
      @knittingsofi7521 4 роки тому +29

      I mean sure, but it still read as Mor’s coming out in acowar: a way to gain feminist brownie points, and it could be used like that sure (Elide’s was, to some extent, and it made sense) but that was literally just: She got her period! And nothing.

    • @verybarebones
      @verybarebones 4 роки тому +227

      @@knittingsofi7521 women having periods isnt feminist rhetoric. Man the antifeminist movement is WEIRD.

  • @myh-devils_advocate
    @myh-devils_advocate 4 роки тому +816

    I agree with the comments below that getting your period back is a huge deal. Not only does it mean that her body is healthy and well nourished again but also gives her disadvantage in the tournament. And I don't see why can't she be a skilled assasin and be girly and like dancing and fancy dresses at the same time. She has been trained to kill but she's still just a teenage girl

    • @azarishere6442
      @azarishere6442 3 роки тому +48

      @@sethperron8204 found the incel

    • @nuclearclarity3778
      @nuclearclarity3778 3 роки тому +134

      Same, i got my period back after my eating disorder and i cried bc it was such an accomplishment 💀

    • @nuclearclarity3778
      @nuclearclarity3778 3 роки тому +23

      @@sethperron8204 what does that have to do with having a period lmfao

    • @ProminentCorpse
      @ProminentCorpse 3 роки тому +62

      I feel like the problem with her being a assassin and also liking things that are traditionally seen as "girly" is that the book is failing to decide what it wants to do with the character, and without committing to a specific character type a character can feel generic and non-committal. It can be done well, but the problem was that it wasn't.

    • @Moony1568
      @Moony1568 3 роки тому +77

      The issue with her being very “girly” while also being an assassin is that it doesn’t mesh well. She was trained most of her life to be a gritty assassin so she wouldn’t have time to dress up really. He forgets to mention that she’s also vain. Her interest in fashion isn’t just an interest. She OBSESSED with her looks. She constantly bitches about clothes and what other girls do and goes on and on about how pretty she is. It would make more sense is she was either a traditional female assassin (one who used her looks to lure in victims) or was just upset about not being able to be “girly” all her life. She was forced to be an assassin so her being upset about not being able to dress up and be “girly” would be understandable. But no. She had a boyfriend while being an assassin and constantly bitches about her looks and how hot she is. She’s unlikable, unrelatable character

  • @grayscribe1342
    @grayscribe1342 4 роки тому +501

    I agree with the assassin's part. Years ago I read a short story where an assassin agrees to take out a band of bandits for a village that it on the path of the bandits. How does he take out a band of bandits that eradicates entire villages? He poison's their food. He knows they won't give their slaves their good food, so there is no risk about killing innocents. He was a little disappointed that he has to kill four bandits by himself. He hoped for two, because he wanted to get even with them.
    But yes, it would be nice to see an assassin doing it the assassin's way.

    • @ianhartman3877
      @ianhartman3877 4 роки тому +7

      Yea sounds good

    • @aileenzhao7951
      @aileenzhao7951 4 роки тому +81

      Ye, assassin isn't a word for "person who kills people with knives"

    • @siphokaziubisi6944
      @siphokaziubisi6944 4 роки тому +20

      Assassin's Creed had influence on this, I think

    • @bordyll5512
      @bordyll5512 4 роки тому +15

      Robin hobb’s assassins apprentice is about an assassin who uses poison. It’s one of my favourite books of all time.

    • @trishashley5018
      @trishashley5018 3 роки тому +34

      @@aileenzhao7951 Assassin by definition is as follows: a murderer of an important person by a surprise attack for political or religious reasons.
      So yes an assassin can use knives to kill people or even a canon if they want too but authors really do need to add other things than just the usual shanking.

  • @PhileasLiebmann
    @PhileasLiebmann 4 роки тому +866

    My favourite line from this: "Celaena is just as much Fey as I am Japanese. Which is to say not...... very much."

    • @mangalover0149
      @mangalover0149 4 роки тому +67

      Knowing the rest of the series, this made me giggle.

    • @manmoy4104
      @manmoy4104 4 роки тому +2

      Is Japan a place in this book series

    • @PhileasLiebmann
      @PhileasLiebmann 4 роки тому +12

      @@manmoy4104 tf are you talking about?

    • @manmoy4104
      @manmoy4104 4 роки тому +6

      @@PhileasLiebmann oh I thought ur original comment was quoting something from the book

    • @PhileasLiebmann
      @PhileasLiebmann 4 роки тому +17

      @@manmoy4104 No, I was quoting from the video

  • @heroofkvatch5878
    @heroofkvatch5878 4 роки тому +846

    Sarah J Maas certainly isn't fooling anyone with the resemblance between herself and her protagonist.

    • @gabrielaa1817
      @gabrielaa1817 4 роки тому +50

      Is that a problem? Many famous writers proyect themselves on characters all the time and no one seems to care.

    • @emilyvance3894
      @emilyvance3894 4 роки тому +134

      afootineachworld Definitely agree, there’s also a lot of high praised traits projected onto Celaena that clogs the story. (EX: piano, reading, lavish dresses and stuff, fighting, knowledge in assassin-y things) Yes a lot of people have different traits and interests but for someone that was abused and raised purely to become a master assassin at 18, where??? Where did she find the time????

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc 4 роки тому +46

      @@emilyvance3894 a high class education allows an assassin to fit in with the nobles, so reading & music, & dancing & sport & fighting all have interchangeable lessons to learn so it's of value, & then there's the fact that her adopted parent was a sicko who possibly & probably believed he was raising a love interest to cover which is repeatedly implied though never fully confirmed, it undermines the argument she was raised to only be an assassin anyway if so.

    • @emilyvance3894
      @emilyvance3894 4 роки тому +7

      Broadbull, Enabler of Uncounted Combos your reasoning does make sense and explain why sarahjm added in those traits, but for me in a novel while i like diversity of a character and reality in their traits it does make her personality indistinguishable at times which may work for others but as a reader it makes me feel like i’m reading something that requires character not character analysis but... a deeper look and understanding of something that (for a ya fantasy series) should be relatively simple for the audience. don’t get me wrong i love a good book with depth but it seems that this series tries to accomplish too much and leaves a cloudy reminiscent of it in my head of an author that wants to breech deeper concepts but wants to stay in the target genre of ya. (side note: sorry if this is sloppy! also i appreciate your thoughtful counter, i still can’t help but feel a little self insert in there lol)

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc 4 роки тому +2

      ​@@emilyvance3894 it has a Lot of flaws for sure, so even the bits that do objectively make sense seem to feel like 'that's the thing that's wrong' it seems from the comments and video to a lot of people, because the whole thing feels sort of 'off' when you read it.

  • @douglasdea637
    @douglasdea637 4 роки тому +481

    For a land where magic is gone, or suppressed, there seems to be an awful lot of people casting spells.

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 4 роки тому +24

      It's pretty obvious why in the follow-up books

    • @akatie888
      @akatie888 2 роки тому +3

      Ever seen Merlin?

    • @douglasdea637
      @douglasdea637 2 роки тому +8

      @@akatie888 Nope.

    • @akatie888
      @akatie888 2 роки тому

      @@douglasdea637 clearly

    • @andrear4954
      @andrear4954 Рік тому

      ​@@douglasdea637 definitely give it a try, BBCs Merlin is actually one of my most favourite tv shows of all time, the characters are so loveable and people are still making successful Merlin videos on UA-cam despite the show ending a decade ago

  • @Xarl-VIII
    @Xarl-VIII 4 роки тому +562

    So its like a fanfic of their D&D character that has weighted dice

    • @mcBlueHiker
      @mcBlueHiker 4 роки тому +14

      Oh shit you’ve nailed why I love this book

    • @aileenzhao7951
      @aileenzhao7951 4 роки тому +36

      It's not even a good fanfic

    • @gliscorpropagandaaccount1764
      @gliscorpropagandaaccount1764 4 роки тому +7

      And they never do anything crazy with the good rolls

    • @robopope7584
      @robopope7584 4 роки тому +12

      @@gliscorpropagandaaccount1764
      DM: It’s your turn, what do you do?
      Mary Sue: I hide then sneak attack the generic enemy with my rapier.
      *commence shocking nat20*
      DM: roll damage
      *commence near max damage*
      DM: okay they’re dead.
      *Rinse and repeat until encounter end*

    • @destroyerinazuma96
      @destroyerinazuma96 3 роки тому +4

      @@mcBlueHiker oh that kind of stuff can be entertaining. There's a japanese YA novel called "Mahouka" where the protagonist is a beautiful OP sob and that's what 90% of the fans love about him.

  • @tennesseeponderer3146
    @tennesseeponderer3146 4 роки тому +327

    The fist thing I thought of is why the hell was she not executed in prison for killing guards multiple times. It seems to me she would be executed by the other guards

    • @melos568
      @melos568 4 роки тому +18

      because death would have been an easy way out, however slavery and whippings would be a better punishment for her crimes?? idk

    • @maevelovesjack
      @maevelovesjack 4 роки тому +8

      amelia Yeah, and actually she did that to be killed by the guards

    • @jacklemm1518
      @jacklemm1518 4 роки тому

      Didn’t she say that the guards were afraid of her because she killed the guards?

    • @pastelmermage8883
      @pastelmermage8883 4 роки тому +6

      The king wants her to suffer for as long as possible

    • @stacyroth8836
      @stacyroth8836 4 роки тому +3

      She had to suffer for her crimes

  • @Dachusblot
    @Dachusblot 4 роки тому +676

    Teenage girl who is a super badass assassin and also incredibly beautiful with golden-blue eyes? Sounds like a Mary Sue.
    *several minutes later*
    "She reveals that she's part Fae" -- oh come on, that's just too much. What's next, is she also going to be secretly a princess?
    *a few minutes after that*
    "He discovers she's the lost princess" -- dude, are you sure this isn't a satire?

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 4 роки тому +13

      I mean it all doesn't really feel that awkward together if you read how everything came to be in the first place🤷‍♀️ except her looks of course😂 but no offense to anyone (cause I'm hella ugly too) I just don't wanna be reading about an ugly person

    • @Dachusblot
      @Dachusblot 4 роки тому +94

      @@jessicas4530 There is a big middle ground between "incredibly gorgeous" and "hella ugly" though, lol. Most of the human race lives there. Also don't call yourself ugly! I don't know what you look like, of course, but try to be kind to yourself. :-)

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 4 роки тому +10

      @@Dachusblot yeah, I get you🙃 but for me, I don't mind if they're described as "incredibly gorgeous" except when "they don't know it themselves" yk🙄 but luckily Celaena definitely knows she be pretty😂
      and don't worry, I accept and love myself😁 I just don't care about my looks, but I'm also not gonna start lying to myself😂

    • @sentuisbattlepants1810
      @sentuisbattlepants1810 3 роки тому

      @@jessicas4530 Enjoy your white feminism.

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 3 роки тому

      @@sentuisbattlepants1810 LOL

  • @Empty_Blank
    @Empty_Blank 4 роки тому +2391

    Wait a moment. This video is one hour long and it is only part one.
    How bad is this series.

    • @JamesTullos
      @JamesTullos  4 роки тому +865

      Pretty fuckin' bad, mate.

    • @reganbrooks8339
      @reganbrooks8339 4 роки тому +168

      I've only read the first book...it's not great. Not great at all.

    • @itheivoidi9151
      @itheivoidi9151 4 роки тому +13

      @@reganbrooks8339 so why does it have a 4. Something ?

    • @sambeckett3813
      @sambeckett3813 4 роки тому +19

      DE꙰C꙰R꙰E꙰W꙰S꙰ opinions bro

    • @PhileasLiebmann
      @PhileasLiebmann 4 роки тому +97

      It's actually not that bad. It's worse.

  • @micolashcageofnightmare5504
    @micolashcageofnightmare5504 4 роки тому +466

    Your martyrdom won't be forgotten

    • @leogazebo5290
      @leogazebo5290 4 роки тому +2

      Everyone love martyr but you know, their dead....

    • @matty6796
      @matty6796 4 роки тому +4

      You should have called yourself Nycolas cage of nightmares

  • @BookReadingCoffeeDrinking
    @BookReadingCoffeeDrinking 4 роки тому +427

    I always wished that Celeana and Aelin had been two different people- they couldve had an interesting dynamic between the ruthless assasin and the queen who doesnt want many people to die. Couldve been far more interesting and wouldve allowed for less cliche reveals etc

    • @koshmareq
      @koshmareq 3 роки тому +57

      Imagine if she had two personalities due to trauma of her parents death and they would just switch

    • @BookReadingCoffeeDrinking
      @BookReadingCoffeeDrinking 3 роки тому +14

      @@koshmareq aw nice I like that it would’ve been an interesting twist

    • @pinkyylemon
      @pinkyylemon 3 роки тому +39

      @@koshmareq it could have been pulled off well but I'm almost glad that it wasn't involved as I don't think it would have been handled well at all

    • @violenciarivas7797
      @violenciarivas7797 3 роки тому +22

      @@koshmareq idk.. im so tired of seeing DID used as a scapegoat in fiction

    • @koshmareq
      @koshmareq 3 роки тому

      @@violenciarivas7797 Oh, where? I've never seen that before

  • @onelovelylilidiot4959
    @onelovelylilidiot4959 4 роки тому +805

    Spoiler warning for later books in series for those who somehow still care:
    8:00
    “The first cover has her looking like some sort of drow elf, which she’s not...”
    Haha aha haaa
    Heh
    *cough*

    • @arynhedrick1458
      @arynhedrick1458 4 роки тому +22

      Right?!?! 🤣🤣

    • @shin-ahbluedragon5409
      @shin-ahbluedragon5409 4 роки тому +12

      LOL 😂

    • @nunyabusiness776
      @nunyabusiness776 4 роки тому +25

      lmaoooo. I read Queen of shadows and Empire of storms before going back to read starting from Throne of glass and... all those really obvious hints. Huh.

    • @Madihakhosa007
      @Madihakhosa007 4 роки тому +1

      Lol 😂 😂

    • @entropy5157
      @entropy5157 4 роки тому +3

      Fae.. its FAE FAE FMFJSBSNKAAK!!🤣🤣
      *yells in Erawan*

  • @studyingpeach6691
    @studyingpeach6691 4 роки тому +358

    The thing that I think bothered me the most is how Chaol is the captain of the guard but has never killed anyone. I thought it was dumb. And I hated how anticlimactic everything felt.

    • @malakaneesmohsin4952
      @malakaneesmohsin4952 3 роки тому +9

      Well if you read the later books (specifically tower of dawn) he explains why he didnt kill anyone up until the point where he ended cains life
      Which is basically because the king had a devil in him and couldnt risk people finding out so he used special people to do the killing and chaol was kind of the clean picture of a perfect kingdom in front of the Common peoples eyes

    • @Aurelian369_
      @Aurelian369_ 2 роки тому +1

      fr it makes Chaol look so dorky. you’re telling me he’s captain of the guard and he hasn’t lost his kill virginity yet????

    • @mialia-u7v
      @mialia-u7v 8 місяців тому +7

      ​​​​@@malakaneesmohsin4952
      It is still stupid and not subtle at all. For a brutal dictator, (who rules through fear alone) it would make much more sense to have battle hardened scary people on display.
      Not pempared high born lads how only wear a sword as decoration. Granted let's say he he chose Chaol because he has a good reputation, he would have still been asked to do something brutal for the King just to gain the respect of the people he is commanding. ( who have to be full on psychos when they work for such a person).

  • @randid7978
    @randid7978 4 роки тому +212

    Having a ring of gold around your pupil is one of the signs of Wilson’s disease, where your body builds up too much copper and you eventually die of organ failure if you leave it untreated. Anyways I’m simultaneously pretty sure I’ve read this book and also fairly certain I’ve never seen it before in my life

    • @winxclubflora8446
      @winxclubflora8446 3 роки тому +18

      Oh my gosh😂😂😂😂😂😂😂the way you insulted celaena and sarah problematic maas

    • @BooksandBuns
      @BooksandBuns 2 роки тому +24

      It could also just be centralised heterochromia, which is far more common than most people think

    • @lrose5522
      @lrose5522 2 роки тому +4

      @@BooksandBuns Yeah it's far more likely to be that and probably based off the author's own eyes, like I don't think we have to nitpick a fine way to describe eye color and acting superior over it. It's fine to just say they think the description is awkward or pretentious

    • @edenmckinley3472
      @edenmckinley3472 2 роки тому +1

      That's hilarious, because my mom and my sister both have an orange ring in the center of their eye, and they are perfectly healthy.

    • @BooksandBuns
      @BooksandBuns 2 роки тому +1

      @@edenmckinley3472 my rings are green & my base colour is grey. It's a really common thing, which can make many people just that lil but happier when they see it represented in characters they love

  • @jasnavandewalle7935
    @jasnavandewalle7935 4 роки тому +3608

    You make a lot of fair points about the series but I don't agree with the period thing. You're reading from a female perspective and as a female myself, getting my period back after an extended time would be a big deal to me. So isn't it logical to mention this as it is probably a big deal to the main character as well?

    • @anothrdude
      @anothrdude 4 роки тому +535

      Even as a guy i get that

    • @jasnavandewalle7935
      @jasnavandewalle7935 4 роки тому +155

      anothrdude thank you

    • @wickedwanderess
      @wickedwanderess 4 роки тому +547

      As a female, I can agree - getting your period after one hell of a hiatus is a BIG deal.

    • @nootnewt9323
      @nootnewt9323 4 роки тому +775

      I agree. Also I like that she brings up periods at all since so many fantasy novels just ignore that women have periods.

    • @jasnavandewalle7935
      @jasnavandewalle7935 4 роки тому +356

      ccbib yes indeed. Somehow they walk through desserts for weeks and nobody even mentions their period? I even find it funny.

  • @erika.s
    @erika.s 4 роки тому +211

    So, she's an assassin, princess who turns into a fae when angered, kinda like Hulk.

    • @romulusnuma116
      @romulusnuma116 3 роки тому +3

      You wouldn't like her just in general.

    • @Rifky809
      @Rifky809 3 роки тому +3

      @@romulusnuma116 so she's a mary sue then?

    • @pRahvi0
      @pRahvi0 3 роки тому +2

      @@Rifky809 I think Mary Sue must hijack someone else's story to qualify so now she's just Super(wo)man.

  • @comradescar6547
    @comradescar6547 4 роки тому +447

    I can say it was the best series in an Alaskan mental hospital I went to

  • @mycroftwatson6441
    @mycroftwatson6441 3 роки тому +185

    For YA writers: assassins are like the Faceless Men from GOT. Their techniques make them dreadful, not an edgy family background or brute force.

    • @BooksandBuns
      @BooksandBuns 2 роки тому +38

      All YA writers should play some Dishonored before they go writing an assassin character 🤣

  • @syndeybinch
    @syndeybinch 4 роки тому +728

    For me throne of glass is one of those series where you know it’s bad but it was one of the first books you read when getting into fantasy and loved it because you were young so the characters mean something to you even tho you know the series is problematic and annoying and bad

  • @annagrace2746
    @annagrace2746 4 роки тому +133

    The fact that she gets her period is honestly one of the only details I liked in this entire thing, and it's honestly so cute that it made him blush.

    • @platyperri
      @platyperri 3 роки тому +30

      SAME
      I'd have DNFed the first book but then I was like, "A realistic period representation? Huh. Maybe I should stick with it" and as the books got worse I just felt like it was a waste trying to continue :(

    • @avivastudios2311
      @avivastudios2311 2 роки тому +1

      Cute?

    • @annagrace2746
      @annagrace2746 2 роки тому +13

      ​ @Draw My Story Listen, guys being uncomfortable about periods will never not be cute. Not like, attractive cute, but cute like a baby being scared of a duckling

    • @sanakimchi88
      @sanakimchi88 День тому

      it’s giving Mary sue self insert wish fulfillment fanfic bc irl he would be like 😳😳😳😳

  • @fatherted776
    @fatherted776 4 роки тому +479

    Hour long honest and well thought out review about a book I'll never read? Sign me up!

    • @emilypiers2839
      @emilypiers2839 4 роки тому +6

      Same!

    • @arrowace5907
      @arrowace5907 4 роки тому +2

      for someone o actually read the book, it doesnt sound that very well thought

    • @6ixlxrd
      @6ixlxrd 3 роки тому +9

      @@arrowace5907 As a fellow someone who also read, I disagree. The only problem was a minor one about periods that everyone in this comments section has blown completely out of proportion (dude's a male; of course we don't think periods are that big of a deal, because we've never experienced them). Other than that, he's actually being kind towards this series.

    • @squibble311
      @squibble311 3 роки тому

      "a" book

  • @astrojade3611
    @astrojade3611 4 роки тому +497

    This entire comment section is going OFF about the whole period thing lmaooo

    • @ThePlatinumDragon
      @ThePlatinumDragon 4 роки тому +122

      From a female perspective, YES. Having your period after a duration without it is quite honestly a huge relief. It was realistically presenting what would happen to a female who was forced to endure those conditions and then suddenly placed into far more luxurious ones. A female would likely lose their period and regain it. The fear deep rooted in many women when we miss a cycle is that we will suddenly become infertile. It also indicates our bodily hormones are “out of whack” and it feels nice to find regularity. The other side to it is, cramps on periods hurt so bad and females could be forced to lie down in bed, on a couch, etc for DAYS. Seeing representation of that pain was really great. A lot of people in the comments are saying it isn’t worth mentioning a period because you don’t mention urinating, but they are far different things. Both are bodily fluids, sure, but periods are something that females are forced to deal with monthly and it feels more important than peeing or pooping.

    • @laurenc5306
      @laurenc5306 4 роки тому +19

      As they should

    • @6ixlxrd
      @6ixlxrd 3 роки тому +53

      @@laurenc5306 Dude mentioned it for like 5 seconds (even said that it makes sense biologically) yet these comments make it sound like he was on the subject for 30+ minutes. Like goddamn.

    • @BraUnY74
      @BraUnY74 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah, I'm here to confirm, that the Walking Dead thing is not a random hallucination that just happened to me in the middle of the video.

  • @Eddrian32
    @Eddrian32 3 роки тому +141

    "She meets a magical talking doorknob"
    Oh hell yes, now we're getting somewhere

    • @TheVioletMagic29
      @TheVioletMagic29 10 місяців тому +1

      So this is Alice in Wonderland instead of Cinderella?

  • @thestitchertwin103
    @thestitchertwin103 4 роки тому +537

    Actually this series was only 3 books when the author wrote it. Then when it got picked up for publishing they changed the number. So the plotline got broken up weirdly and the details that showed the build up of caelana and other key characters got moved around a lot.

    • @magnoliasmith5706
      @magnoliasmith5706 4 роки тому +14

      The Stitcher Twin I didn’t know that! That makes sense

    • @EmethMatthew
      @EmethMatthew 4 роки тому +45

      Yeah, sounds like the first book was publishing meddling for the sake of following trends and the intended story was later, but this is what the author needed to do to get published to tell her original story. This might be why it feels like a prologue.

    • @bellebr9844
      @bellebr9844 4 роки тому +8

      The Stitcher Twin that actually makes a lot of sense since in the original series her and Dorian get married too lol

    • @thedarkestreads7971
      @thedarkestreads7971 4 роки тому +23

      Not particularly. When Sarah first wrote it it was a 4 part series and the ending is VERY similar to how Queen of Shadows ends, the difference being that Erawan is defeated rather than actually having been inside Perrington. Sarah was signed on for 3 books as most publishing companies won’t give you 7 books outright, but she had always planned for a 5+ book series and when book 2 sold way better than expected they gave her the deal for the rest of the books. She never intended to have to squeeze the series in 3 books but has stated on the chance she was only allowed to do a trilogy she really doesn’t know how she’d have fit it into only that. The main issue with the story comes in at the 5th book where the issue becomes we need this story to move to point Z from point A and to do so within the amount of time we have character work has to suffer. Books 2 4 and 6 are regarded as the strongest books in the series because of their fine balance of character and plot.

    • @magnoliasmith5706
      @magnoliasmith5706 4 роки тому +1

      The Darkest Reads That makes a lot of sense. Even if I never got through 6, I remember 2 and 4 always being my favorites.

  • @katie750
    @katie750 4 роки тому +466

    "i don't know why because she's a human in this story" lol

    • @great-wall-of-nowhere9377
      @great-wall-of-nowhere9377 4 роки тому +7

      Lmao ikr

    • @sydney9121
      @sydney9121 4 роки тому +7

      It’s the main character in a grayscale lol

    • @nootnewt9323
      @nootnewt9323 4 роки тому +21

      When I first picked up these books I thought she just had blue skin. Had no idea she was white until I read it lmao

    • @nootnewt9323
      @nootnewt9323 4 роки тому +24

      @Cian McCabe Shes not an elf, she’s Fae and even as a fae she’s white lmao

    • @grometheus4556
      @grometheus4556 4 роки тому +1

      Ahh... Yes. Human.

  • @sinklar1224
    @sinklar1224 4 роки тому +109

    "Organizing stories can be hard, just ask Sarah J. Maas", bro what a roast holy shit

  • @Dugout97
    @Dugout97 4 роки тому +171

    So the main character is an Assassin Hybrid Fairy Princess? Dude that's a Gacha trope!

  • @dragonlord595
    @dragonlord595 4 роки тому +361

    Wait James are you suggesting that the obviously evil king is evil

    • @firetarrasque4667
      @firetarrasque4667 4 роки тому +25

      He goes from "King who is Evil" to *"Raven Darkness Dementia Way, the King"*

    • @starbittenpixieboy
      @starbittenpixieboy 4 роки тому +16

      @@firetarrasque4667 Ebony Dark'ness Dementia Raven Way** It's been engraved into my brain

    • @vedantthapar3666
      @vedantthapar3666 4 роки тому +7

      Alura Storm-Screamer it’s so bad that the first time I read the first chapter, I actually thought that it was a self-aware parody. It was so monumentally idiotic that I actually thought that there’s no way a human being could have written this seriously. Oh boy...

  • @heidiflores5800
    @heidiflores5800 4 роки тому +536

    I agree with basically everything you said except for the part where you said it was unnecessary to bring up her period. I think it's good that this book mentioned that since it is a thing that everyday women have to go through and it was nice to see it in a fantasy setting. The only thing I didn't like about it in this book is that Celaena made such a big deal about it. Not only were there a bunch of paragraphs of her just complaining about her period, but it also contradicts what has been mentioned in the book before. The book goes on and on about how she is the deadliest assassin in all of Adarlan yet she can barely walk or talk when she gets her period. I think just a couple sentences mentioning that she got her period and that it was painful would have been enough.

    • @magnoliasmith5706
      @magnoliasmith5706 4 роки тому +89

      To be fair, some people do have periods that are that bad, but it was a little much

    • @samiraansari5686
      @samiraansari5686 4 роки тому +101

      I actually thought that that might be because she hadn‘t had it in so long, and her body was still fairly weak. But I do agree that mentioning it was reasonable, especially since it‘s a pretty strong symbol for her getting her original strength back little by little.

    • @Anonymous_P
      @Anonymous_P 4 роки тому +105

      After you get amenorrea, when you get your period back its usually as if every menstrual pain, cramp and slight soreness that you could have had if you had been having your period normally just accumulates and comes at once, and taking into account that for you to have amenorrea your body would have to be in a dire situation of almost dying and is now beggining to recover it makes sense that it would be so bad. Also some women just naturally have extremely painful periods in which they can't even get out bed, so maybe that whole part about Celaena being in too much pain might be the most accurate and realistic part of the book.

    • @mcz_13
      @mcz_13 4 роки тому +51

      Yeah, as a person whose periods legit and make me lightheaded and are debilitating, I disagree with that. You can be a certified badass and have really horrible periods, it’s not about pain tolerance or anything some people genuinely have murder periods

    • @imygurl08
      @imygurl08 4 роки тому +21

      @@mcz_13 I don't think it's about pain tolerance, it's just hard to imagine someone in such a debilitating state 1/4 of every month would be able to do the things she does. Does she plan her missions around her period? Is she able to defend herself?

  • @777LGF
    @777LGF 4 роки тому +188

    I think this is the first time I’ve heard of a love triangle so bad you can’t even tell it’s a love triangle 😂

    • @alexandra1695
      @alexandra1695 4 роки тому +8

      In some copies of the first book on the back there is a line that goes something like "two men love her"

    • @emjenkins464
      @emjenkins464 4 роки тому +1

      I'm pretty sure it's because Chaol was bumped up from a supporting character in the editing from the original trilogy she wrote in her teens. He never really got enough development, while Dorian just wants to fuck both of them.

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 4 роки тому +3

      @@emjenkins464 I would've loved if Chaol and Celaena were like best friends instead of intimate together, but deeper into the series I feel like it was necessary for her development🤷‍♀️

  • @DaFireElf
    @DaFireElf 4 роки тому +131

    what i really love about your channel is you also review books that are geared towards girls. like, you don’t look down on them just because they aren’t your target audience. thank you!

  • @florencenicholls2346
    @florencenicholls2346 4 роки тому +97

    11:28 yes - it was necessary. for a long time young girls thought having a period was bad. it used to be called “the curse”. this scene in the book represents that a period is a blessing since it’s a sign you’re healthy. it also makes Celaena more relatable to younger girls.

    • @BushBumperBaker
      @BushBumperBaker 10 місяців тому +4

      You're reading too much into it.

    • @kellynantonacci7885
      @kellynantonacci7885 8 місяців тому

      @@BushBumperBakerMaybe you’re not reading enough into it.
      I have PCOS and my period literally is fucked up. I was OVER THE MOON when I got diagnosed and got medication to regulate my period and took away my painful symptoms.
      So… if I’m a tortured girl in a fantasy world and finally get my period, I’m going to be happy and yell it.
      You’re either a girl who has had 0 health problems or a man. Either way…. Periods are pretty fucking important, as annoying as they are.

    • @sanakimchi88
      @sanakimchi88 День тому

      @@BushBumperBakerfor sure im like it’s notttt that serious it’s Sarah j maas

  • @kevinalbora562
    @kevinalbora562 4 роки тому +224

    “A small child playing with Legos and a blowtorch.” 😂

  • @bellat.1377
    @bellat.1377 2 роки тому +14

    Fun note of historical assassin's. They usually were peasants with clubs ambushing people on roads.

  • @goldenbrigain7031
    @goldenbrigain7031 4 роки тому +135

    I didn't mind the series too much when I first read it. I found it to be pretty generic with some hype points. You want to know what's funny? in the last books even the side characters get fed up with the main one because of how much she keeps shafting them.

    • @pjuega
      @pjuega 4 роки тому +2

      Really? Do tell me more...

    • @jennafercamp5412
      @jennafercamp5412 4 роки тому +12

      I personally really enjoyed the series but that is so true lmao

    • @jennafercamp5412
      @jennafercamp5412 4 роки тому +30

      @@pjuega MC keeps coming up with plans and wont tell anyone and gets her self captured by the main antagonist and everyone's fed up cause she kept refusing to let anyone help her

  • @sandra411jamz
    @sandra411jamz 4 роки тому +29

    When Celaena thought "the heir they're rallying around is an imposter", really activated the almonds on GEE, I WONDER WHO THE HEIR COULD BE. And then young readers who don't know any better think it's peak foreshadowing

  • @clava7851
    @clava7851 3 роки тому +50

    Reading bad books gives me confidence (I wanna be an author) and it teaches me what not to do in a book

    • @avivastudios2311
      @avivastudios2311 2 роки тому

      I read bad books but not on purpose. If I read something it's because I think its cool. But if I get to a bad book its a learning experience.

    • @krow5099
      @krow5099 Рік тому

      Same here

  • @LostInNumbers
    @LostInNumbers 4 роки тому +281

    Fun fact: Nehemia is a Male name. The name comes from Hebrew and means god encourages or gives comfort.

    • @zarabee2880
      @zarabee2880 4 роки тому +4

      LostInNumbers wasn’t Nehima the name of Lirael’s sword in the Abhorsen books? Love those books!!!

    • @user-pu6pn8vt5d
      @user-pu6pn8vt5d 4 роки тому +4

      I spent time in Israel a lot, and no one in daere is named nehemi-watever-it-is. I don't know what your thoughts were...(my stopit keyboard hed effect the wording of this message. I hope you can still read perts of it.)

    • @elgranlugus7267
      @elgranlugus7267 4 роки тому +19

      Nehemiah is indeed a male hebrew name. The book or the Bible, Nehemiah is named as that because of the main character.

    • @LostInNumbers
      @LostInNumbers 4 роки тому +22

      Nehemia is not a very popular name nowadays, but there are still people who have it. A famous example is Nehemia Strestler, a journalist and television news anchor who focuses on economic matters. The name should be a bit more common within the more religious circles in Israel, which prefer more traditional names and are not as averse to longer names as the more secular culture of Israel.

    • @onelovelylilidiot4959
      @onelovelylilidiot4959 4 роки тому +3

      I’m so starved for actual representation from Sarah Maas that I’ll take this for trans headcanon material

  • @TheJulleful
    @TheJulleful 4 роки тому +175

    One of the only things I liked about the book was that it talked about her period! That's a huge part of womanhood and people should get used to it🤷‍♀️

    • @TheJulleful
      @TheJulleful 4 роки тому +5

      Also would you say that about Sansa getting her first period in A Game of Thrones?

    • @Filmsber5
      @Filmsber5 3 роки тому +24

      @@TheJulleful Sansa getting her period in ASOIAF was a horrible event to her because instead of stepping into womanhood it just showed that she could concieve for the horrible king and will be used further which was significant in the story. But I do agree that the only part I liked about ToG was the period mention for some reason because it SHOULD be normalized and sjm did what she had to do by mentioning it but that's it.

    • @sanakimchi88
      @sanakimchi88 День тому

      @@TheJullefulSarah j Maas has so many retcons, plot holes, plot armor etc you can’t even compare sansa period with this. she had to literally try and carve the blood out of her mattress so Cersei wouldn’t see it. Meanwhile here it’s just like “omg it made the Prince Charming YA copy paste love triangle interest *blush*” 😂💀 bad villains with constant low stakes and no chance of any main characters dying, only side characters dying to further the main characters story.

  • @snowy_owl
    @snowy_owl 4 роки тому +159

    Mom! James is having an existential crisis again!

  • @tomekfranciszek9237
    @tomekfranciszek9237 4 роки тому +257

    Honestly I dont know why I forced myself to read the trilogy too. It was the manifestation of everything I hate in books released nowadays.

    • @simonkelly1958
      @simonkelly1958 4 роки тому +39

      One of the few books I couldn't finish, one min she tells herself she could kill any one with a flic of an eyelid, the next she is gushing over his dark dangerous sad and emphatic eyes, Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Ying13280
      @Ying13280 4 роки тому +6

      Actually Throne of glass has 7 books. It's pretty tiring to me ngl. There's a lot of minor characters who have a boring part which for me, killed the whole book itself.
      Dorian and Chaol had a very interesting role in the series but that one character came and it ruined them.

    • @alexandra1695
      @alexandra1695 4 роки тому

      @@Ying13280 Which character came and ruined it?

    • @Ying13280
      @Ying13280 4 роки тому +2

      @@alexandra1695 The extras... Sorscha, Manon, Lyssandra...

  • @sokkvabekkr5973
    @sokkvabekkr5973 4 роки тому +150

    side note but the period thing does matter actually. in both ways (pain and pregnancy) but like think of berserk & the part where casca got her period and passed out. that's a big deal

    • @DanateDMC
      @DanateDMC 4 роки тому +21

      Yeah, but if it was brought up once and for the rest of the book was just ignored for the rest of the book, then did it really matter?

    • @sokkvabekkr5973
      @sokkvabekkr5973 4 роки тому +8

      @@DanateDMC good point. Still, sometimes periods are worse than usual so maybe that was it. (Still the book is stupid so maybe it was just the author being dumb as well but id kinda like to hope there was some thought put into it lol)

    • @DanateDMC
      @DanateDMC 4 роки тому +12

      @@sokkvabekkr5973 I mean, yeah I get it that periods are important, but if they aren't really used in any meaningful way and are just mentioned it feels more like a way to manipulate people into feeling either more invested in character for some arbitrary reason.

    • @sokkvabekkr5973
      @sokkvabekkr5973 4 роки тому +11

      @@DanateDMC that's propably what was done in this book, tbh. But in general, I like it when periods are includes in fiction, especially in fantasy settings

    • @allyli1718
      @allyli1718 4 роки тому +11

      「Danat 」 The 「Iron Revenant」 It was mentioned this time because it was painful and represented her getting better. The rest were not considered noteworthy enough to mention

  • @crystal_moon_arts7341
    @crystal_moon_arts7341 4 роки тому +143

    I never even finished the series, it stole so much of my soul. Should have ended at the 4th book tbh. Also missed opportunity for the two main guys to get together, they set that up so much throughout and it would have been a nice twist in a fantasy ya book.

    • @Spabibble
      @Spabibble 4 роки тому +10

      KOA (the last book) left me crying for 4 hours but I loved it so much.

    • @alexandra1695
      @alexandra1695 4 роки тому +7

      @@Spabibble for me it was kinda dragged out and disappointed

  • @projectnostalgia5427
    @projectnostalgia5427 4 роки тому +151

    everyone always mispronounces Chaol's name, for future reference it is pronounced kale like the vegetable.

    • @pommedeterreaucitron
      @pommedeterreaucitron 4 роки тому +6

      hehe there is a meme

    • @kappaross6124
      @kappaross6124 4 роки тому +14

      I knew a guy named Kale once. Nice dude.

    • @nogashalev1214
      @nogashalev1214 4 роки тому +22

      Idk it’s like with all her characters she finds names that legit fight you when speaking them

    • @boazm.2279
      @boazm.2279 4 роки тому +10

      It isn't Kale, Its Kay-All

    • @penncassidy7143
      @penncassidy7143 4 роки тому +10

      Its actually pronounced like: Kay-all. SJM gave her audiobook narrator pronunciations.

  • @thattheresagirl
    @thattheresagirl 4 роки тому +70

    I have never read anything by Sarah J. Maas and I have a super important test in two days. Why did I just watch the entire video?

  • @marielsaenz5891
    @marielsaenz5891 4 роки тому +35

    The period thing is important cause it’s a signal that Celaena is getting better. Generally when you don’t have your period is cause your health is really bad, you have an hormonal problem or you’re under a lot of stress, so for Celaena to have her period after a long time means a lot.

  • @ชาญณรงค์สุทธิประภา

    James this entire video: "And that's fine, BUT..."

  • @todo9633
    @todo9633 4 роки тому +35

    Yeah, the fact that they didn't execute an assassin instead of just putting them into a mine or even after she killed a bunch of guards is real dumb.

    • @iikittydr8503
      @iikittydr8503 3 роки тому

      Cause they were under orders by the king to work her to death. Not a quick, mercy kill.
      Edit: plus, the king of assassins also probably used his influence to make her time their easier-as in not kill her.

    • @sanakimchi88
      @sanakimchi88 День тому

      @@iikittydr8503yeah but when goes all navy seals copy pasta and kills like 18 guards or some unbelievable bs then that realistically would become an excecution 💀

  • @zur137
    @zur137 4 роки тому +105

    I read those books I genuinely don’t recall the walking dead.

    • @Dragoon601
      @Dragoon601 4 роки тому +19

      BerserkTheKid Crown of Midnight, Page 321. I had to look through my copy because I for the life of me couldn’t remember it either

    • @sofiascolours
      @sofiascolours 4 роки тому +1

      Niether :')

    • @alexandra1695
      @alexandra1695 4 роки тому +4

      @King Evans Damn...the shade

    • @ethannorman7537
      @ethannorman7537 4 роки тому +1

      Wtf same, I was so confused when James mentioned it lmao

    • @anubhabghosh8706
      @anubhabghosh8706 4 роки тому +3

      Looks like it really _was_ a prank. 🤣🤣😂

  • @oneeyewitch
    @oneeyewitch 4 роки тому +34

    The point of her escape wasnt to get out though she wanted them to kill her. She says "I never intended to escape". We have completly different points of view but I really enjoyed this

  • @theaargent7056
    @theaargent7056 4 роки тому +33

    I haven't even read those books. I just like to get inspired to do better in my writing. Also I really like your insights. I made myself a cup of tea, let's do this!

  • @thattheresagirl
    @thattheresagirl 4 роки тому +96

    My mother language is German and your thumb nail cracked me up.

    • @camelopardalis84
      @camelopardalis84 4 роки тому +6

      You made me check it. Well done!

    • @matthiasw8777
      @matthiasw8777 4 роки тому +1

      Was ist so lustig

    • @camelopardalis84
      @camelopardalis84 4 роки тому +8

      @@matthiasw8777 Das Nein Nein Nein Nein Nein Nein Nein im Thumbnail. Grad hier oben rechts im Benachrichtigunsfester, falls Du auf die Benachrichtigung geklickt hast.

    • @matthiasw8777
      @matthiasw8777 4 роки тому

      Marie Lastname Achso, das ist sehr lustig

    • @camelopardalis84
      @camelopardalis84 4 роки тому

      @@matthiasw8777 Keine Ahnung, ob das jetzt trockener Humor von Dir war oder ob Du es total lustig fandest. Ich habe so reagiert, als wäre das erste der Fall.

  • @terryc.6355
    @terryc.6355 4 роки тому +50

    Oh my god! Finally someone talking about the god awful SJM self insert description of Celaena!!!!!!!! bless you!!!

  • @XJYNCT
    @XJYNCT 4 роки тому +68

    Am I the only one who was hoping that Prince Dorian and Chaol would get together? They had more chemistry together then with Celaena.

    • @ejedwards988
      @ejedwards988 4 роки тому +8

      Nope but Manon and Elide makes more since than either Elide and Lorcan/Dorian and Manon

    • @denji5426
      @denji5426 4 роки тому +4

      they had more development than any of the other relationships

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 4 роки тому +3

      @@denji5426 nahh Rowan and Aelin definitely went through the biggest development together

    • @denji5426
      @denji5426 4 роки тому +2

      @@jessicas4530 i didn't ending up reading those books

  • @veslarkinson
    @veslarkinson 4 роки тому +64

    I agreed with pretty much everything you said about this, but honestly the period thing didn't strike me as wierd to mention.

  • @fatimaansari744
    @fatimaansari744 4 роки тому +21

    The most hilarious part is that there was a pronunciation guide (yes, the names are that complicated), and either I read the guide wrong, or he did, because that's not how I thought they were pronounced.

  • @nootnewt9323
    @nootnewt9323 4 роки тому +113

    Do you hear them?
    *THE SJM STANS*

    • @alexandra1695
      @alexandra1695 4 роки тому +7

      I can feel them coming

    • @emjenkins464
      @emjenkins464 4 роки тому +3

      As a former and reformed stan, I cringe at the whole of YA tumblr these days. (No you do not want to date Lorcan/Kaz Brekker/etc)

    • @sukanyaparashar9474
      @sukanyaparashar9474 4 роки тому +1

      @@emjenkins464 yeah they're definitely not the kind of people you'd want to date (especially Kaz) but they're still interesting charecters

  • @ancalyme
    @ancalyme 4 роки тому +11

    Yes bringing the period up is necessary. It was one of my pet peeves with Hunger Games that we never got to see the MC dealing with periods and body hair...

  • @almierae4914
    @almierae4914 4 роки тому +29

    The moment you mentioned the long lost princess and faes parts I just thought "hmm I wonder when we will learn about the main character actually being that princess?" "oh and I bet she is part fae." Because with books like these where a mary sue is the main character, the whole world is created in service of the protagonist. the world literally turns around him/her. and I understood that it would be that kind of book when I read about 20-50 pages and put it away in disgust. it reminded me too much of my own mary sues I used to write about when I was a teen. Im sorry if there is someone who is a fan but I just thought it wasnt worth my time.

  • @hannemuller3664
    @hannemuller3664 4 роки тому +8

    Just wanted to say how much i like your videos. Had a pretty rough day, but when this video popped up, it really brightened my day.

  • @birtehofmann2795
    @birtehofmann2795 4 роки тому +14

    While I mostly agree (although some of the issues get kinda resolved later), I have a point about the magical creatures. Until book three, the story only took place in Ardalan, where magic is banned and many people who once had it were executed. But now Celeana/Aelin is in Wendlyn, where magic still exists and the Fae kingdom is even kind of it's own place where there are more creatures than anywhere else on the continent.
    Also, there was a mention of 'the little folk' on Celaena's journey back from Endovier.
    So while it might seem strange to suddenly have more creatures, it's actually not that off

  • @syndeybinch
    @syndeybinch 4 роки тому +52

    I don’t remember a single goddamn thing about the walking dead wtf, I guess I haven’t read the first books in a while but I feel like I’d remember the ridiculousness

    • @ghoulmania7906
      @ghoulmania7906 4 роки тому +16

      I got the impression that it's just a book with an edgy name, I don't think it was ment to be a reference to the walking dead franchise...

    • @romulusnuma116
      @romulusnuma116 4 роки тому +4

      @@ghoulmania7906 it's just such a recognisable IP it so distracting

  • @maia_gaia
    @maia_gaia 3 роки тому +3

    I'm still not convinced you didn't make up the walking dead part to fuck with me specifically. I'm baffled lol

  • @futurestoryteller
    @futurestoryteller 4 роки тому +98

    LMAO, I got a strong "girls have cooties" vibe from the period thing.

    • @mms2855
      @mms2855 3 роки тому +4

      that says more about you lmao

    • @futurestoryteller
      @futurestoryteller 3 роки тому +12

      @@mms2855 No. Actually it doesn't. Did you actually watch the video?

  • @natsuvoyage
    @natsuvoyage 4 роки тому +17

    When my boyfriends sister joined our campaign she actually made her first dnd character based of Selena (idk how her names supposed to be spelled)... She ditched the character after 2 sessions

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 4 роки тому

      Celaena🙃

    • @gloomygloomstalker3878
      @gloomygloomstalker3878 Рік тому

      Bruh, in our first d&d game my ex made HER character Celaena too, and one of our others she made Frye from the Acotar series

  • @westvirginiaglutenfreepepp7006
    @westvirginiaglutenfreepepp7006 4 роки тому +21

    I'm here for rants about books I will never read. Looking forward to part 2

  • @Faith-Trust-Pixie-Dust
    @Faith-Trust-Pixie-Dust 4 роки тому +26

    ...it wasn't the graphic novel "The Walking Dead"... just had the same name

    • @A-Rather-Dubious-Character
      @A-Rather-Dubious-Character 4 роки тому +13

      Can you blame him?
      I doubt the book went into detail to say-
      "On no guys! It's not THE Walking Dead, just a shitty book name!"

    • @Marigold11037
      @Marigold11037 3 роки тому +2

      @@A-Rather-Dubious-Character I mean, just from the fact that it mentions spells and was..you know..a _book_ and not a comic/graphic novel should've made it obvious
      It's a shame too, because "The Walking Dead" makes sense as a book title in that universe

    • @Moony1568
      @Moony1568 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah his fixation on it confused me. I’m sure, out of universe, it was just an Easter egg. In universe, it’s just a book with the same name, not the actual franchise.

  • @morganwilliams5591
    @morganwilliams5591 2 роки тому +6

    The sheer casualness with which you talked about "she found the Walking Dead" and "Mort the magical talking doorknob" absolutely blindsided me. I thought you had to be joking. What the fuck is this series

  • @chandlertheramhandler
    @chandlertheramhandler 4 роки тому +12

    It’s so interesting watching this when you’ve read the entire series. So many questions raised in this video are actually resolved later on in the series.

    • @iikittydr8503
      @iikittydr8503 3 роки тому

      So would you recommend the series or not?

    • @chandlertheramhandler
      @chandlertheramhandler 3 роки тому +1

      @@iikittydr8503 No, not really tbh. It’s a bit of an undertaking with 8 books (and the last few are large enough to be as big as two or more of the first). It was enjoyable though, so unless you’re super into these types of fantasy books where the adventures start off small but boil down to a huge war by the end, I wouldn’t recommend. The author does have a tendency to write all male characters the same as well (I can’t remember if this was brought up in this video, I watched it a year ago lmao). Tbh I think if anyone was going to read it they should have done so as the books came out so it didn’t feel like so much of an undertaking, but I might just be thinking that because i ended up having to read all the books twice because I forgot what happened while waiting to get my hands on the next one. So really the books were good and entertaining, yes. At times I couldn’t put them down, yes. But there are s o m a n y o f t h e m. And you can probably get the same or a similar experience from reading an even better series that’s smaller. Idk tho. Sorry for massive answer.

  • @tristasahely3381
    @tristasahely3381 4 роки тому +19

    I don't know in which of the books it was explained, but the guards were ordered not to kill her by Arobynn. That's how she got close to escaping and managed to kill guards. Her "escape attempt" was meant to be her attempt at suicide because she expected to be shot and killed on sight. (also Chaol is pronounced like the vegetable "kale")

  • @6ixlxrd
    @6ixlxrd 3 роки тому +10

    Dude talked about a period for like 4 seconds but these comments make it sound like he was on the subject for 30+ mins.

    • @momowoods2859
      @momowoods2859 3 роки тому +5

      Ik,it's so ridiculous,lol.

    • @Moony1568
      @Moony1568 3 роки тому +1

      Cause it was a stupid point to mention that it was unessacary when it actually shows that she was getting healthier. Besides it was one moment in the book, so he didn’t have to mention it at all.

    • @6ixlxrd
      @6ixlxrd 3 роки тому +5

      @@Moony1568 It’s the equivalent of writing a pissing scene then saying it’s healthy and completely necessary because peeing shows you’re getting healthier. The general rule of writing is: “If it can be cut out and the same story gets told without it, you don’t need it.” If your story’s so tediously pointless that you have to write an unnecessary scene like that yet completely skip over something more relevant by lazily summarizing the tournament, then rethink whatever it is you’re writing.

  • @9gagHasMySoul
    @9gagHasMySoul Рік тому +3

    The period comment is pretty important to her character journey because it shows that her body is healing and getting stronger after being starved for months (at least, idk the time frame she was in prison). Its a major thing and would land with its target audience

  • @honestlordcommissarbrighte7921
    @honestlordcommissarbrighte7921 3 роки тому +9

    What kind of assassin fakes assassinations after murdering people in prison. Did she just grow a conscience like a tree grows flowers instead of apples?

  • @spacewinter
    @spacewinter 4 роки тому +32

    I stuck through this stories besides not liking it from a critical standpoint. It was still entertaining for me as long as I ignored the flaws. But the last book was the worst especially if you're a Tolkien fan, she copies a lot. Sarah j mass isn't good at world building and establishing lore either imo. Very messy

    • @wannabehistorian371
      @wannabehistorian371 4 роки тому

      So basically, the book equivalent of that trashy show you watch while drunk with friends?

    • @spacewinter
      @spacewinter 4 роки тому

      @@wannabehistorian371 yea lol, you'll have fun not taking anything too seriously

  • @pizza9700
    @pizza9700 4 роки тому +3

    I find it surprisingly great that I can come to this channel and genuinely enjoy watching videos tearing apart books that I also genuinely enjoy. I don't know how you do it. Good job!!

  • @fairycat23
    @fairycat23 4 роки тому +26

    Celaena is an interesting spelling. I have a "you do you" attitude toward unusual name spellings, so while I personally don't like that spelling, I won't lose sleep over it.
    Also, Zoloft-Prozac solidarity gang waddup

    • @johannageisel5390
      @johannageisel5390 4 роки тому +4

      I actually think it looks more fascinating written this way than it sounds when you speak it out loud. Then it's just Selena and I have to think of Underworld and/or Sailor Moon.

    • @andresacosta4832
      @andresacosta4832 4 роки тому

      @@johannageisel5390 Or 28 Days Later
      "Do you want to find a cure and save the world or just fall in love and fuck?"

  • @lanciilatte2372
    @lanciilatte2372 4 роки тому +12

    “While she’s casting spells from The Walking Dead,”
    😭😭😭

  • @robynmorin5815
    @robynmorin5815 4 роки тому +18

    I personally loved these books just how I’ve loved all action/ fantasy books. I got into reading to help my depression and anxiety, the bigger the world building, plot and characters are the better. Gets me out of my own head. I think it’s just a matter of opinion and the kind of reader you are.

    • @Schwa_
      @Schwa_ 4 роки тому +6

      Robyn Morin
      Same I really enjoyed this series and her other one. Like everything, it’s not perfect. I love it tho because all the characters’ personalities are so fun. And the banter? Yesssss.
      It was wild.
      I’m really surprised tho at the huge amount of people who have strong distaste for the series. It’s so strange. The people who hate it act like it’s objectively the worst thing in the world. Maybe my brain’s broken but I can’t relate. 🤣

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 4 роки тому +4

      @@Schwa_ same😂 I'm actually also suprised cause it really wasn't a crap series at all😂

  • @ainereeves357
    @ainereeves357 4 роки тому +118

    I agree with a lot of the points you are making, such as the first book feeling a bit like a prologue, but to be honest, I think you missed the mark with these books. While these books are definitely not the most well-written and perfectly structed books ever, they serve a very specific moral purpose, which I will admit is particularly aimed for a female audience, (which might explain why you overlooked it.)
    For example, you complain that the fact that Celaena loves luxury and nice dresses etc. clashes with the fact that she is a badass assassin. In my opinion, what you call a contradiction is actually the author making a point that femininity and strength/power/being a badass can coexist. I feel as though this addition to Celeanas character is there to say that being traditionally "girly" (liking nice clothes etc.) does not mean you cannot be a badass.
    Also, I disagree with what you said about Celaena's period being irrelevant. Reading this book as a woman, I felt as though a huge part of my life had finally been recognised. Of course Celaenas period returning is a big deal, because being on your period consumes so much of your life. I think this is far too frequently overlooked in literature.
    Personally, Heir of Fire was my favorite of the whole series. While as you say, very little actual events happen in this book, I feel as though it has a lot to say about mental health, self-discovery, personal development, the strength of women, overcoming your ego, etc. (I'm particularly talking about Celaenas storyline, however some of these are present in Manons storyline also). While maybe you consider these things to be boring, I find that the best books not only those that are perfectly written/paced with everything being very logical/realistic, but those that you can take something from, the books that teach you a life lesson, maybe not literally (I'm not planning on spending months training to control my insane magical power with a similarly powerful fae prince) but by giving a broad statement about self discovery that you can apply to your own life.
    I am very interested to see what you think about the next books. Although I don't agree with everything you said, it was a very entertaining review all the same.
    (Also, on the topic of the walking dead, I don't think (or at least I don't remember) the novel ever mentioning that it had any affiliation with the walking dead tv series, apart from having the same name. I think it is merely a coincidence and is not meant to be about zombies - its a book of wyrdmarks)

    • @heyitsme9386
      @heyitsme9386 4 роки тому +4

      Áine Reeves great comment

    • @yarpen26
      @yarpen26 4 роки тому +7

      Honestly, it's the "badass" part that always rubs me the wrong way in books like this. Do girls and women out there really fantasize about easily beating guys twice their size? Especially through an avatar that looks like the prom queen of any given high school, with nothing in the way of muscle on her body?

    • @taralassiter191
      @taralassiter191 4 роки тому +25

      @@yarpen26 yes lol, it can be so so easy to feel powerless as a woman when you're constantly told how easily a man could overpower you, taught ways to defend yourself etc - reading from a badass character like celaena's perspective is a form of escapism, especially when her contrasting "girly" qualities make her more relatable

    • @tpwds7900
      @tpwds7900 4 роки тому +20

      @@yarpen26 Yeah, we all want to beat up a dude twice our size, is that not normal?

    • @prakharsinha4822
      @prakharsinha4822 4 роки тому +1

      Really well written!

  • @Eqvil
    @Eqvil 4 роки тому +30

    The moment you mentioned that there is a missing heir, I knew where it was going, because the writer is cliche. Attractive, badass assassin, 2 attractive guys, can transform, princes. Mary Sue?

    • @jessicas4530
      @jessicas4530 4 роки тому

      Well I can add that she doesn't end up with either of those attractive guys😂

  • @PhileasLiebmann
    @PhileasLiebmann 4 роки тому +9

    Thank you, James. You're sacrifice was unnecessary, but we appreciate it all the same.

  • @deevee5327
    @deevee5327 3 роки тому +52

    "Wouldn't it be cool if Assassins weren't just badass fighters but actualy were good at sneaking about and stuff?"
    Sorry.... Did you just ask the authors to.... get innovative and smart?
    How DARE you

  • @trondordoesstuff
    @trondordoesstuff 4 роки тому +8

    "And this other guy's the captain of the Royal Guards"
    NYEH HEH HEH!

  • @damienchristopher5652
    @damienchristopher5652 4 роки тому +14

    This series was one of the first I read and completed. Boy I thought it was great and would defend it with tooth and nail. But now I'm more well read in fantasy, boy it's terrible. Has as much plot convenience and plot armour than Chamber of Secrets in every book.
    And her romances in every book she writes overpower the story. And she prioritises romance over plot, that the plot feels weak and the romances seem worthless, since they don't feel earned at all

  • @selingermann5599
    @selingermann5599 4 роки тому +23

    This review reminded me of why I wanted to write books in the first place; because there is so much garbage out there :3
    Thank you for throwing out the garbage, my dude. It was entertaining and kind of inspirational to watch. :33

  • @Newfiecat
    @Newfiecat 4 роки тому +7

    I love how the closed captioning called it "Thrown-up Glass" because that's exactly what it feels like 😂

  • @marcog.verbruggen674
    @marcog.verbruggen674 4 роки тому +19

    i only realized the author was a woman when he put her face on the screen (i wasn't paying a lot of attention tbh lol) and i was genuinely surprised, cuz that description he read of the MC sounded like something taken from r/menwritingwomen

    • @user-ny1wo1vp9r
      @user-ny1wo1vp9r 4 роки тому +3

      Tbh I've read almost as many books with badly written women by women as by men.

  • @chrismueller5335
    @chrismueller5335 3 роки тому +27

    How to make the main character more interessting.
    1. Shes in the prison, tried to escape once while she still had enough strength, failed got beaten and then left with even less food, when she meets Dorian (or whoever the fuck the prince is), he sees just the shadow of her former self. Her eyes still showed deviance in the pure emerald colored pupils.
    2. she manages to win the first few trials through ingenuity and intelligence (since her body is still weak af), later on she gets stronger and she manages to keep up with the remaining competitors.
    3. she falls in love with dorian because he helped her become who she was before, never judged her and was just generally supportive (though he only did so for his own gain until he himself also slowly starts liking her)
    Boom. Thats... thats how you write a badass character who naturally falls in love...

  • @alxphx
    @alxphx 2 роки тому +2

    This series is honestly one of my favorites of all time. I’ve recently gotten into medieval-fantasy series and I’ve liked almost all of the ones I’ve read.

  • @monsouranda2822
    @monsouranda2822 4 роки тому +26

    All those one star goodreads review are TRUE

  • @andras3665
    @andras3665 4 роки тому +6

    The walking dead plot point sounds like it reaches “so stupid that it’s genius” territory.