Interesting. My use of Spotify must be very different from most people. I listen to full albums and often will listen to the entire discography of artists over a few days. Helps me discover hidden gems and also see how a band’s sound evolves over time.
Same. The same 25 albums/artists end up on my wrapped each year. But I’m also the person who kept the same 6 CDs in my car for years at a time even though I had a binder full. :)
I thought that aswell, until i managed to download my whole playlist to my phone so now i own every single song file and can listen to it anytime whether im online or offline and without ads free of charge.
Cancelling all my subscriptions after losing my job a few months ago taught me the unexpected blessing of *not* having access to everything everywhere all at once. I’m more intentional about what I watch and listen to. It took me a couple months to detox, but now I didn’t think I’ll go back. Having all those streaming services trained me to constantly be looking for something new to entertain myself. I don’t miss that addiction.
Interesting comment I find it privileged to assume that I should always access to everything, and I find having access to everything useless because I can’t absorb it, but I don’t say that much on social media because people don’t seem to agree lol. I hate Spotify
@@stevemuzak8526the financial incentives are optimised the same way gym memberships are. They don’t want you actually using the service. They want you spinning your wheels and watching less or nothing at all. Save them making new stuff and streaming costs. Streaming media is a broken model that is not fit for purpose.
I cancelled my Tidal during lockdown and started buying CD's again partly to ensure artists were remunerated more fairly. It's been great to leave the algorithms behind, I now discover new music via online music music magazines, such as the Quietus, UA-cam music channels (Norman Maslov is a good one) friends recommendations and seeing acts live. I now listen to less but listen more deeply and value it more. Less is definitely more!
I've recently begun this journey as well! I repaired an old iPod 6th gen, started buying all my music on Bandcamp or finding old records on the Internet Archive, and reliving old music I bought on iTunes in the 2000s. I haven't cancelled Spotify yet but I think it's time. It's hard to believe I've this subscription service for over 10 years.
I mostly use FM radio to find new music, when I hear a song I like on the radio, i'll write down some lyrics and search em to download on my mp3 player On the mp3 player, I can only have songs on one playlist. So i can't put the same song in 2 playlists unless i want to have duplicate files so it limits how many i can make but it's fun: I just made one for different moods, sad, happy etc.. I like how my happy playlist stays happy and sad playlist stays sad, no algorithm mixing up moods.
Funny thing for me is that I do all this stuff even with an Apple Music subscription. I mention which sub I use because I think the way a service is designed influences the way you consume its content a lot: Spotify has always been playlist and discovery centric, while AM, being basically a subscription version of iTunes, is library and collection centric. Most other music subs try to be like the popular thing so they end up Spotify-izing their UX as well like Deezer or Tidal. AM tries to keep you within the library you already have (things like shuffle by Album, Genius and Smart Playlists) and gives you the chance to integrate what you own with what you don't (whether you bought it from iTunes directly or matched it from files you already have by uploading them), which is the reason why I just can't switch to Spotify - I value owning music just as much as discovering new artists. Not to mention I still buy CDs and use an iPod too, so other services would just make that awkward.
Thanks for bringing up these topics. Our music comsumption has changed so quickly in the last 10 years, that new generations don't emjoy the "full album" experience. Can't imagine myself listening to individual songs from "Dark Side of the Moon" or "Wish you were here". I continue buying CDs and Vinyl nowadays and also ripping them to FLAC to enjoy them on the go on my portable devices. Thanks for addressing this :)
I got into iPods cuz of Dank Pods and these devices have become my actual music players. I've crammed them with tons of songs and it's great using a music player that no one can reach in and pause my music, I'M the one who presses pause. Also you own the music that's on there and no record label can take it away.
@@ambiarock590 I love this. Can you share a little on how do I start going about doing this in 2024 and also if most of the music I love is mostly current POP and alot from 80s through till now?
Shuffle by Album on my iPod Classic has changed my life when it comes to listening to my music collection - I had been missing out with Spotify, and I'm amazed none of the streaming platforms have this shuffle feature at all. Happier Than Ever by Billie Eilish was an album I only heard one or two songs from, but on my iPod, I had the whole album pop up and I was blown away, that album is FANTASTIC. Been off Spotify for almost 3 years now, and I cannot imagine ever going back.
I feel like I'm the only person I know who still listens to albums. I find it helps me focus, really puts you in a zone or headspace the artist was in at the time. And the songs you want to hear most hit so much harder with a little bit of patience and anticipation. A good tip I've found for discovering new music is checking out other artists on a label's roster. Chances are they're in a similar vein and I'll often binge a bunch of albums when I find a label I like. A lot of them have UA-cam channels too with full albums uploaded.
I cancelled my subscription and tried to stop using Spotify but I had to go back after I just stopped discovering new music. I love how Spotify can be used to find so much unique and obscure music that I'd never find without it. I haven't been paying though, I can't afford it anymore... 🏴☠️
Never felt the effect of the algorithm. I only have one playlist on Spotify and it’s filled with more than a thousand songs and I’m always adding songs to it, each from different genres of music, different artist and different languages. I love music a lot so I can’t bring myself to have multiple playlist and different albums. I’ll listen to new stuff while still listening to old songs that I grew up with.
I quit paying on the music streaming platform three months ago and I am listening to more old songs I know and love and some new ones from artists I love sometimes I use my free Spotify to listen to new and rare music and when I do sport I listening from my walkman
Ive never paid for spotify for all these reasons. I found it extremely depressing to not be able to really dive into an album, find obscure artists and be introduced to new ones in a way that felt organic and exciting. Honestly the advent of digital music ruined my relationship with music altogether and i dont even listen to much any anymore. Despite much protest from others, i've decided to install a record player into my bus (which im about to live and travel in full time) and start collecting and trading records from country op shops (thrift stores in australia). I love love love old music and this is my idea to help rekindle my passion and also find new old music 😅❤. Love your work Spencer!
Love to hear you’ve put a record player in your bus! I love collecting old regional folk records when I’m travelling around Canada - I imagine you’re finding some pretty cool stuff in the Australian thrifts 👍
Also, as a musician- Spotify pays fractions of pennies to artists per stream. Whilst the CEO is a billionaire who continues to make money off artists. Very easy to go to bandcamp and buy records etc from artists direct.
Streaming is like TV and radio for me. Once I’ve viewed or listened to something the first time I’ll buy the cd or Blu-ray after and stick to that. No removal of ownership for me.
I personally never used streaming services, hoarding (well, not really hoarding, like, I listen to all I have saved over the past decade+) music on my HDD instead. It's a necessary self-limitation that gives me freedom and control over my music habits. I worked with 6mm magnet tapes for a couple of years and that was another lifechanging experience for me, when I realized how much stuff is out there waiting to be discovered. Music that you will likely never find online, unless someone digs out a physical copy of it (be it vinyl or magnet tape or anything) and digitizes it for the internet to see. That's a fascinating feeling one has to experience in order to understand what it's like to actually, well, *experience* the music.
so i am slowly adding to my own collection of music again after quitting about 12 years ago. i do use spotify to figure out what to get and what to skip out on. i like how when you quit spotify you started going deeper into an artists discography. thats what happened to me when i started using spotify, oh this artist has 12 albums? lets have a listening marathon this weekend and see what i like and dont like.
people always say spotify is convinient. but i don't think so. because player app including good old windows media player gives me more features (like organize with genre tag, year tag, 5 star rating tag). spotify doesn't have those features. It has large catalog but that's it. I already have big collection.
It feels so weird but i cancelled my spotify after my student discount ended, and just had the free version laying in my phone. I realised since last few months that I rarely listen to music and just removed the app too. I occasionally listen to a song on my laptop on YT or desktop spotify when it gets stuck in my head but otherwise im just without music and it doesnt even bother me now.
It's the issue of convenience. The way he used Spotify isn't inherently wrong--in fact it's really the way Spotify intends its use. They always show the top songs of artists or top plays of an album. Convenience can hinder attention span by making it much shorter.
@@SgtJellymeh, i agree with OP. I don’t have any of the issues mentioned here, and i don’t feel forced to use spotify in any particular way, it usually does everything i want it to. Also, when it comes to top songs, I tend to find that they are usually the most shallow and rarely end up being my favorites. Only reason I would ever click into a top 5 songs on an artist page would be to get a feel for their style
you can totally use spotify in the way he describes. i think for a lot of people though, physical media will nudge them to conscious listening/listening to whole albums. you need to be quite dedicated to use spotify in that way.
This was so good, you communicated this well. I went back to physical media 6 years ago, and it really changed my life. I love listening to full albums, I’m currently in my Paul McCartney phase, found some cds of his at the thrift store. Because I am trying to save money, I have to live with my cd and records for much longer before I move on. Great tip about discovering artist from Wikipedia, I’ve never tried that before 😊
Thanks for the kind words :) glad you enjoyed the video! Paul has some great tracks - I’ve only delved a bit into his post-Beatles work but I’ve enjoyed many of the songs I’ve heard. Great idea getting them secondhand and really enjoying them thoroughly before getting more!
I really like your take on this. I have 3 rules for buying physical media - 1. I really want to hear the album/watch the movie, 2. The album/movie/show has special significance to me, or 3. I found it in a bargain bin for really cheap. This has two benefits - I have good representations of memories that are meaningful to me, and it keeps spending down. Generally, I have to really want something to buy it, so I have to do research to decide if it is something I want. Just that little bit of research makes what I do get that much better
We had friends over from the UK an had a great week. Our evening discussions were about what Vinyls we owned and still enjoy. Imagine years later and all you have is your bank statement with the SPOTIFY payments. To thank you for our week together they offered me a second hand vinyl by Everything but the Girl,EDEN. a classic.
That’s great to hear! Agreed, years of payments to Spotify doesn’t give you much once you stop the payments. Owning even a few key albums gives you something that’s yours for the long run. Thanks for the comment!
I get the whole convenience thing when it comes to Spotify etc and it does have its benefits but you can't beat the feeling of listening to your own collection. I still buy CDs and I love it. I left my MP3 player in a pub in Liverpool a while ago and I was devastated 😂. As you say, listening to full albums is great. I've been listening to Sign O' the Times by Prince and it's absolutely perfect. I have a couple of hundred CDs and I'd never be without them.
I signed up for Apple Music in 2019, this wasn’t going to replace my 500 (or thereabouts) cds nor stop me buying albums I’ve discovered on physical media if I really liked them. So streaming became an expense ‘on top’ of buying music, not a cost effective alternative. Another point, I was adding studio albums to my streaming library by artists with whom I only owned a partial discography, often just a compilation. This act became very unceremonious, building up a backlog of “must get round to listening to those 10 Bruce Springsteen titles”. Buying music makes me more selective and the cost means a slower rate of acquiring titles, which is more rewarding. I cancelled Apple music streaming a while back.
As a music lover and owner of a robust physical CD and Vinyl music collection, I still use Spotify. I think it's an excellent tool to be able to discover new music (without relying the algorithm) as you have immense catalogue of pretty much any artist you could think of with so many user-created playlists that encourage sharing of new music. I find myself listening to many more albums by streaming, and that often leads to me making an easier decision to go out and buy the physical versions to better support the artists. I have a good balance with the convenient music access from Spotify that supplements my personal listening collection. I get that not everyone likes the concept of "renting" music, but it just isn't possible to own every single piece of music that I enjoy or casually want to hear.
I don't have problem with Spotify, other than the fact UA-cams algorithm gives me 1000x better music and music recommendations and i don't even pay for it. So i no longer pay for Spotify either.
I do still buy music digitally or a physical cd & I had Spotify for about 5 years up until last week. You're right I never listened to full albums on it. My wife loved to play Spotify playlists during work all day long and I knew she would miss it. So we cancelled Spotify and signed back up for Apple Music as I like that platform better. I noticed myself and especially her listening to full albums again not playing these random playlists etc. Listening to full albums more made me full back in love with listening to music intentionally. I find us turning off the TV way more and just listening to music and talking more.
Here in India, yearly Premium individual subscription for spotify costs about 15 US Dollars. Also UA-cam Premium costs about the same around 17 dollars for a full year which also comes with UA-cam music bundled. So I never felt like I am spending so much on music.
You make some great points about finding music through social media. Literally just following every artist I enjoy on IG has done so much for developing my music taste further. Also researching artists and seeing what label they're on, who they've toured with, who their influences are, etc.. is huge for me. All of that creates a sense of interconnectedness that is missing when you are just taking whatever the algorithm feeds you. Sometimes even just listening to the mood music they play before a concert starts can turn you onto an artist. Then there are of course apps like Transistor on Android that can stream radio stations from across the country for free that are great when I'm sick of everything else I've been listening to. That said, I really couldn't afford to sustain my music appetite without streaming lol. I still buy records for albums I really love but music is important enough to me that the monthly cost for streaming is worth it. I did ditch Spotify for Apple Music though and I think their UI is more suitable for intentional listening.
The first reason is the best for me , I’m in transition from apps to physical and listen full album . Rediscover like clockwork from queen of the Stone Age ! Masterpiece
I did the same thing: In January I decided to cancel Spotify, Netflix, AppleTV+ and every other streaming platform I was subscribed to. I only listen to music that I own and have bought on iTunes or vinyl. That way I know I am supporting the artists I love in a much better way - that was very important to me. And as someone who gave up social media 2 years ago (UA-cam is the only platform I still use), I also wanted to avoid algorithmic curation (the best way I can...). I want to choose what music I listen to or what movies/shows I watch. I don't see myself going back to those platforms, and if I ever really want to watch something that's only on Netflix (I'm a Stranger Things fan!), I can subscribe for a month and then cancel.
I've been going on a physical media kick these days, especially movies and TV shows since video content streaming services have screwed us all over. Music streaming is a different animal, however I've been buying physical albums again. However I have a YT Premium subscription so I have access to YT music without ads. However I find myself listening to my collection at home, and TY Music only when I'm on the go.
I ripped all of my (good) albums and put them on my NAS and have a Navidrome server streaming me my albums. I may have acquired my vinyls in a different way, but I own a physical copy so shhhh… anyway re discovered my favorites from high school has been fun.
First month of quitting Spotify 👍 The only reason I was holding to it was laziness, quite frankly. I always listen to the same songs, therefore being subscribed to a music streaming service makes close to zero sense for me. Luckily, I still have my CD collection!
Good on you for keeping your CD collection! I felt the same as you in regards to Spotify - I had a playlist I made that I always listened to, so really once I owned those tracks there was no reason to keep paying beyond that. Thanks for the comment!
Most of the stuff I listen to on Spotify is podcasts. Since I’ve moved to my iPod I’ve been loading my iPod with podcasts and rarely use Spotify. There are a couple of albums I like to listen to that I don’t have but I’m slowly buying the cds and ripping the flax to my iPod. Soon, I’ll be giving up Spotify because I just won’t need it anymore. Love your vids. Keep it up
Yeah I get this. I've only used Spotify for maybe a total of a month when I gave it a shot, but have stuck with Apple Music otherwise. Coming from ripping CDs into iTunes, later just purchasing albums on iTunes, Apple Music felt like a way to retain the same habits, more or less. I've always been into albums - it's pretty much my default way to listen to music. I found it pretty easy to just treat Apple Music like iTunes. I look up a band's page with search. If I want to check them out, I add an entire album to my library and listen to it. If I don't like it, I remove it. My entry-point is always my personal library - not the home, browse, or search tabs. When using Spotify, I felt like the UX choices they made actively discouraged me from operating this way. That said, what I don't like about the streaming model in general is the pace of it. Adding an album to my library doesn't cost anything, so I frequently add way more than I can thoroughly listen to. Back when each album needed to be explicitly paid for, I obviously took it way slower. As a kid, that meant spending my entire allowance on a new CD once per month. As an adult, it still meant spending ~$10-15 CAD on iTunes. I ended up listening to those albums a lot more and got way better acquainted with them. As for finding your own music, rather than relying on the algorithm: YUSS!!! I hugely prefer just reading about bands on Wikipedia, UA-camrs that do reaction content are a gold-mine (Nik Nocturnal, for instance), and generally using whatever means to hop from bands I know to bands I don't that they might be associated with. Discovering music is a hobby unto itself and way more fun than just passively letting the algorithm throw stuff at me.
iPod 6th Gen is so good! I've found that I'll very gladly fork up 10 bucks to actually support the artist I like and it even gives me a thrill when I buy an album that I can never get by just finding it on Spotify
I am subscription free and have been buying electronic albums. i used to own a lot of physical media but don't have the physical space any longer to do so. If I want to listen to a song before buying the album, I listen on youtube music. I don't have a subscription so I listen to the occasional add. youtube music has a way better free experience than spotify.
Great points. Another thing to consider is that not all albums are released digitally. Was looking for the OST for Shop girl. Needed to purchase a CD in the end.
Where I live there isn't place to buy CDs so I as you say sail the sea and then burn music to CD for listening in my car, empty CD is pretty cheap, like 25 cents
I literally had the exact same issue with king gizzard in the lizard wizard. Great band, but unless the artist included free digital copy with a vinyl record, I just have to either buy their CDs or pay for the digital track in addition to the physical media. Great band though!
When I had Spotify I mostly looked for music on my own accord. I had to be in a certain mood to find new music, and I still do since I cancelled my Spotify and started using iPods and MP3s. I like the point you make about having a story behind how you found an artist and I have one for one of my top artists: Amaranthe. I was on UA-cam watching music videos and accidentally tapped Amaranthe's cover of Sabaton's "82nd All the Way" and from that moment on I've been hooked on their music. Thanks past-me for making that slip up.
I cancelled my Spotify because their business practices are so nasty and I was uncomfortable funding it. I got iBroadcast and dug into my old CD collection and it has all been fantastic. There are a lot of tracks I've had to download for now, but there's also a lot of artists I've paid to support directly. I now love searching charity shops for CDs I might like and I'm much more intentional with my listening ❤️
I use CD because it is the perfect sweet spot between the practicality of streaming and the physicality and ownership of vinyl. For vinyl, you hold something in your hands and in your shelves, but vinyl is not portable at all and even so it is quite cumbersome, which part of the charm for some and I do get that, but I wouldn't want my entire catalogue that way. I have a few records and just got a player which is missing parts, so that'll just be for the quirkiness of it once I get around to it. With CD, you still have something in your hands and shelves but you can bring them as-is into the car, or make copies to spare your originals, or do what I mostly do which is rip them into HQ mp3 or FLAC. Gone are the days when you measured the storage on your mp3 player in "holds up to 200 songs!!" - yeah, in 128 kbps or less. Storage these days is dirt cheap and ripping into 320 kbps is by far good enough for most people. Just a 32 GB microSD holds more HQ music than you probably regularly ever would listen to. As for backing up, you can cram about 200 albums of 10 songs of 5 minutes each in 320 kbps onto a single-sided, $0,50 bluray disc of 25 GB (23,866 MB to be exact). You can then easily make multiple copies of it and have virtually all your music in high quality on just one disc lying around in your home, car, vacation home, at your parents', wherever, and you don't need to stream it from Spotify or your own FTP or anything. If you want to go the fully lossless route, the argument still stands but it's reduced to about 35 albums per disc, assuming all albums fill the entire disc they were pressed on (which they rarely do, so it's gonna be more). If discs are too cumbersome still and you want something even more digital, a simple 32 GB USB stick would do the same trick and then some. But bluray would be the more secure backup in the long run.
I wholly agree about listening to albums over single hits, however even with Spotify I still mainly listen to albums from start to end rather than individual songs. In addition to this, there are so many artists I wouldn't have found without Spotify, which I then listen to their albums and, if I am lucky, get to watch them live when they are local when otherwise I wouldn't have ever known about them. However, owning your own music is definitely an appeal. It is a shame that when I attend a live show and want to buy an album from the artist, CD's seem to not be sold and only Vinyl seem to be offered (especially with CD's the cheaper option to Vinyl)
You’re right that the slow disappearance of CDs is a bummer. It’s a great format. I can totally see the benefits of having Spotify and in fact I think it’s the most positive streaming service available. I got rid of it to save money and start building my personal collection but a balance can exist where you do both. Thanks for the comment!
I have a Spotify premium family plan that my parents pay for but man does Spotify suck nowadays. I have a whole bunch of playlists downloaded and was suprised that in offline mode it wouldn’t let me navigate to the albums of the music downloaded. Crazy how Spotify relys on an internet connection. Buying music is so much better than streaming these days
All super great points. Looking forward to your video on how you discover new music. I have always been a album listener the only time I wasn't listening to albums was when I was a kid and I got my songs off the internet. And when streaming first came out and I was working a desk job so I was just making big playlists. But yeah albums is where the magic is and where you really discover if you love an artists work or not. Also howdy from Manitoba!
Just canceled my Spotify subscription last month, my mom passed on her vinyl collection to me which I love and I plan on getting more plus I’m saving to get a modded iPod classic which I’m so excited for.
Great to hear you’re trying life without Spotify dude! The record collection sounds awesome - I have a few from my parents and it’s cool that that stuff if able to be passed on
@@spencers-adventures I have such a love for the classics. Thanks Spence always watching your videos plus life without Spotify is pretty good so far just looking for more ways to be in the moment and enjoy my entertainment
I use Apple Music. I used to buy the MP3s of the new music I wanted, but my iPhone is a jerk about playing music I’ve ripped from my CDs. Things will be fine for a while and then it will skip over some tracks or it will say some are not available in my country, even though it’s played them before. I finally said screw it and subscribed to a family plan with my wife. I listen 90% of my music at work or in the car, so it has to be either streaming or MP3. I listen to every song, once at least, by the artists I like, but today there aren’t many that I like more than a few songs. So I wouldn’t buy the CD anyway
I tried spotify for 3 months and ended up disliking the experience. I like exploring and finding music on my own by finding bands and their influences. I also like to listen to specific versions (non-remastered) of albums but they were not to be found on spotify. I love listening to an album all the way through as I feel that a musician put the album together with intention much like a story.
Although I have a Spotify subscription, I take advantage of it to consume educational and informative content and of course, music that nowadays is hard to get on vinyl or CDs, however, I have my vast mp3 folder that goes with me on my dumb cell phone when I try to disconnect from the outside.
I'm a holdout. I never really joined the "stream team". I have a massive digital catalogue. It has taken hours to correct track labels. I love albums and AOR "album oriented rock". I only used Spotify free to discover new artists. I'm always looking for new artists. I've recently found a few great new bands. Shed Seven, Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever, and SLIFT.
Yes that's exactly what social media has done to people. We don't take and enjoy the experience. We just want the next new thing. We have to Keeping up with the Joneses. That's just not how it should be. It's enjoy your music and take in the experience and the moment. That goes with everything not just music. Social media has ruined the experience and moments. Unfortunately it will get worse because people are competing with everyone to stay "Cool" keep up with the new "best" thing. At the end no one is enjoying the experience because they got to move on. That making a lot of people unhappy some don't understand what is making them unhappy. That's why I like channels like yours because you are helping people out. That's awesome. King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard is a amazing band. But unfortunately I don't own any of their albums. I should start getting some of the albums little at a time lol. I use UA-cam music app I really enjoy it but that mostly listening to new music to see if it something I would enjoy and eventually buy. I watch a lot of people on UA-cam that collect records CDs and that helps me discover new musicians as well. It's great.
This time I was ahead of ya Broski! Never used it. Keep up the battle with the bad Robots! I keep on adding tapes to the John Conner Supply LOL Keep on huntin'
I've never used spotify, but I've been using Pandora for years. It's okay for just wanting to fill the air, but if im looking for something specific, i listen to my own music or seek it out on UA-cam. Lately, I've been getting back into cassette tapes. Picked up a Walkman in great shape, and I have been using that to listen to music more than my phone. Ive also got well over 100 cds, and plan on getting an MP3 player to carry all that music around with me.
Love that you have taken up the Walkman! I have had a few boomboxes over the years so I have a few tapes left, but right now it’s been records/digital copies that I’ve been using most. Sounds like you’ve got a good CD collection too!
Store near me called 2nd and Charles has a 100 cd mystery box for 30 bucks. Tried it recently and got some great ones in it. Also, cut down bankers' boxes make great bulk cd storage. One box holds about 90 standard cd jewel cases. I have one filled, another over halfway, and one with albums I still need to listen to.
I’ve tried Spotify but didn’t like it as much as Pandora which I’d had for some time by then. I used to work for a record store in the late 90s, so I got a lot of good stuff for free or used. I still have these cds and every once in awhile I’ll pull something out of the vault. The whole tactile experience is more satisfying to me than just streaming a particular song. I still use my mp3 players in my car. Hell, I even have cassette tapes - mixed tapes were the best! 😅😊
Gonna quit Spotify sub (3 months for $16) when it's finished but it's nice for music discovery. I've already discovered a few artists I like and listened to their albums.
No longer need to rely on data and the Internet when you need to listen to music that you own via records, CD. While having the Internet is great, it's also healthy to not connect when wanting to play music or watching TV/Film.
Spotfy has gotten overwhelming even on offline mode! I signed up for premium to get new release albums but end up listening to playlists most of the time. I will soon go back to my CDs and music on an SD card.
I never used Spotify or any music subscription so i don’t know how they work besides having unlimited amounts of music!. UA-cam has been a big part for me going back to 2008 for singles, remixes and new artist too. One thing I love about albums is your dedicated to that 30 to 60 mins from that artist. When I play a cd I play through the whole thing. When I was at work I fell in love with this song from Nessa Barrett, after I sampled the album on iTunes, I bought the CD 😊 and then I made a YT video about the album.
I quit streaming because I listen to a lot of artists whose music often just disappears or becomes unavailable on streaming, not to mention the music I like that is simply not available digitally
I didn’t ditched Spotify yet bc I listen to music in different devices (when at home, job or wherever; with devices that aren’t mine etc), so it’s hard to do
I've never had any subscription because I've never used a smartphone. Why get a subscription when you can download any music track from anywhere you like and load it on your mp3 or phone mp3 player?
And of course, in the recommendations from YT under this video, I got a Spotify post xD But I think Spotify is really good for some folks like my bf, who loves pretty much every genre of music and wants to listen to all of it. But it's not so great for people like me, who would rather stick to what they definitely like, and slowly discover new music. I figure we balance each other out. Like, he can have me listen to new bands, and if Spotify ever goes down, we'll still have my cds/mp3s to listen to xD
Spotify ruined music for me. I hate algorithms and feeling like a product being farmed for attention. Also shuffle is so broken in Spotify. I switched to my iPod but am settling in on sync my library with my phone. It’s so nice knowing that my music is mine
I miss the good old record store…but we shouldn’t make it bigger. Those stores were mini algorithmic in the way they placed the albums around in the store. Having worked in those stores back when I was growing up I know what was going on. Still loved my own High Fidelity life from back then. I also jumped off from Spotify just because they decided to pay a podcaster millions instead of the artists (it’s more political than this but it’s one of the reasons). Now I’m at Apple Music and I mix it up with my own catalog of music through Plex.
With respect though, aren’t you just trading in the Spotify algorithm for the Instagram or UA-cam algorithm. I agree with your point on the importance of human curation, but I’d personally much rather listen to the Apple Music playlists designed by humans around an artist or genre, than try and find new music by going onto Instagram and UA-cam. I value my music listening as being something apart from social media
Eh, to each their own. I subscribe to Spotify and Tidal and have found heaps of new artists that I'd have probably never found otherwise. Plus if folks aren't listening to entire albums at least once, IMO, they're doing it wrong.
1:46 when you said "local music catalog" you showed an Apple Music screenshot. Do you use iCloud Music Library to sync with your iPhone? How did you that without an Apple Music subscription?
@@RibeiroLuc4s nope you don’t! I think for the subscription you just unlock the steaming part, but the regular media features are included. I’ve never had or paid for Apple Music
I deleted today not just Spotify, but also SoundCloud and Canadian-based Calm Radio too! I wish to listen to songs that I really like! I now listen to Radio Paradise, a listener-supported and commercial-free online radio station! I prefer supporting Bill Goldsmith and his online radio station rather than to deal with the bullshit junk that Spotify has become! Goodbye the stupid algorithm! ❤ 😊
Interesting. My use of Spotify must be very different from most people. I listen to full albums and often will listen to the entire discography of artists over a few days. Helps me discover hidden gems and also see how a band’s sound evolves over time.
Same. The same 25 albums/artists end up on my wrapped each year. But I’m also the person who kept the same 6 CDs in my car for years at a time even though I had a binder full. :)
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Once you cancel your subscription, you realize that you own NOTHING.
Yes that happened to me so I started buying cd
no shit lol
…Until you buy it
@@MikeSparksMusic Future generation won't own shit. They're already training Gen Z to own nothing. Subscribed freedom.
I thought that aswell, until i managed to download my whole playlist to my phone so now i own every single song file and can listen to it anytime whether im online or offline and without ads free of charge.
Cancelling all my subscriptions after losing my job a few months ago taught me the unexpected blessing of *not* having access to everything everywhere all at once. I’m more intentional about what I watch and listen to. It took me a couple months to detox, but now I didn’t think I’ll go back. Having all those streaming services trained me to constantly be looking for something new to entertain myself. I don’t miss that addiction.
I was spending way too much time looking for things than watching. Unsubscribing from these services is a liberation
Interesting comment
I find it privileged to assume that I should always access to everything, and I find having access to everything useless because I can’t absorb it, but I don’t say that much on social media because people don’t seem to agree lol.
I hate Spotify
@@stevemuzak8526the financial incentives are optimised the same way gym memberships are. They don’t want you actually using the service. They want you spinning your wheels and watching less or nothing at all. Save them making new stuff and streaming costs.
Streaming media is a broken model that is not fit for purpose.
I cancelled my Tidal during lockdown and started buying CD's again partly to ensure artists were remunerated more fairly. It's been great to leave the algorithms behind, I now discover new music via online music music magazines, such as the Quietus, UA-cam music channels (Norman Maslov is a good one) friends recommendations and seeing acts live. I now listen to less but listen more deeply and value it more. Less is definitely more!
I've recently begun this journey as well! I repaired an old iPod 6th gen, started buying all my music on Bandcamp or finding old records on the Internet Archive, and reliving old music I bought on iTunes in the 2000s. I haven't cancelled Spotify yet but I think it's time. It's hard to believe I've this subscription service for over 10 years.
INTENTIONALITY is 🔑. With music, books and LIFE! Love the content.
I mostly use FM radio to find new music, when I hear a song I like on the radio, i'll write down some lyrics and search em to download on my mp3 player
On the mp3 player, I can only have songs on one playlist. So i can't put the same song in 2 playlists unless i want to have duplicate files so it limits how many i can make but it's fun: I just made one for different moods, sad, happy etc.. I like how my happy playlist stays happy and sad playlist stays sad, no algorithm mixing up moods.
Love to hear your process. Writing down the lyrics from the radio and looking up later is a wonderfully simple way to go, I really admire that!
Funny thing for me is that I do all this stuff even with an Apple Music subscription. I mention which sub I use because I think the way a service is designed influences the way you consume its content a lot: Spotify has always been playlist and discovery centric, while AM, being basically a subscription version of iTunes, is library and collection centric. Most other music subs try to be like the popular thing so they end up Spotify-izing their UX as well like Deezer or Tidal. AM tries to keep you within the library you already have (things like shuffle by Album, Genius and Smart Playlists) and gives you the chance to integrate what you own with what you don't (whether you bought it from iTunes directly or matched it from files you already have by uploading them), which is the reason why I just can't switch to Spotify - I value owning music just as much as discovering new artists. Not to mention I still buy CDs and use an iPod too, so other services would just make that awkward.
Thanks for bringing up these topics. Our music comsumption has changed so quickly in the last 10 years, that new generations don't emjoy the "full album" experience. Can't imagine myself listening to individual songs from "Dark Side of the Moon" or "Wish you were here". I continue buying CDs and Vinyl nowadays and also ripping them to FLAC to enjoy them on the go on my portable devices. Thanks for addressing this :)
I got into iPods cuz of Dank Pods and these devices have become my actual music players. I've crammed them with tons of songs and it's great using a music player that no one can reach in and pause my music, I'M the one who presses pause. Also you own the music that's on there and no record label can take it away.
I literally just bought Wish You Were Here.
What a trip that album is!!
I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! Appreciate the comment 👍
@@ambiarock590 I love this. Can you share a little on how do I start going about doing this in 2024 and also if most of the music I love is mostly current POP and alot from 80s through till now?
Shuffle by Album on my iPod Classic has changed my life when it comes to listening to my music collection - I had been missing out with Spotify, and I'm amazed none of the streaming platforms have this shuffle feature at all. Happier Than Ever by Billie Eilish was an album I only heard one or two songs from, but on my iPod, I had the whole album pop up and I was blown away, that album is FANTASTIC. Been off Spotify for almost 3 years now, and I cannot imagine ever going back.
that's interesting. before I discovered spotify on 2020s I was just shuffling my mp3 library like that. but I was satisfied with it.
I feel like I'm the only person I know who still listens to albums. I find it helps me focus, really puts you in a zone or headspace the artist was in at the time. And the songs you want to hear most hit so much harder with a little bit of patience and anticipation.
A good tip I've found for discovering new music is checking out other artists on a label's roster. Chances are they're in a similar vein and I'll often binge a bunch of albums when I find a label I like. A lot of them have UA-cam channels too with full albums uploaded.
The label roster is a great tip!
I’ve been listening to full albums more often as well. I still pay for Spotify, but I use it to find new artists, then I buy their albums.
me too
I cancelled my subscription and tried to stop using Spotify but I had to go back after I just stopped discovering new music. I love how Spotify can be used to find so much unique and obscure music that I'd never find without it. I haven't been paying though, I can't afford it anymore... 🏴☠️
Never felt the effect of the algorithm. I only have one playlist on Spotify and it’s filled with more than a thousand songs and I’m always adding songs to it, each from different genres of music, different artist and different languages. I love music a lot so I can’t bring myself to have multiple playlist and different albums. I’ll listen to new stuff while still listening to old songs that I grew up with.
huh, weird, I have like 500 playlists lol and I would also say I “love music”
I quit paying on the music streaming platform three months ago and I am listening to more old songs I know and love and some new ones from artists I love sometimes I use my free Spotify to listen to new and rare music and when I do sport I listening from my walkman
Awesome dude for breaking your addiction to Spotify - break free brothers & sisters
Ive never paid for spotify for all these reasons. I found it extremely depressing to not be able to really dive into an album, find obscure artists and be introduced to new ones in a way that felt organic and exciting. Honestly the advent of digital music ruined my relationship with music altogether and i dont even listen to much any anymore. Despite much protest from others, i've decided to install a record player into my bus (which im about to live and travel in full time) and start collecting and trading records from country op shops (thrift stores in australia). I love love love old music and this is my idea to help rekindle my passion and also find new old music 😅❤. Love your work Spencer!
Love to hear you’ve put a record player in your bus! I love collecting old regional folk records when I’m travelling around Canada - I imagine you’re finding some pretty cool stuff in the Australian thrifts 👍
Also, as a musician- Spotify pays fractions of pennies to artists per stream. Whilst the CEO is a billionaire who continues to make money off artists. Very easy to go to bandcamp and buy records etc from artists direct.
You’re right! Bandcamp is awesome 👍
Streaming is like TV and radio for me. Once I’ve viewed or listened to something the first time I’ll buy the cd or Blu-ray after and stick to that. No removal of ownership for me.
I personally never used streaming services, hoarding (well, not really hoarding, like, I listen to all I have saved over the past decade+) music on my HDD instead. It's a necessary self-limitation that gives me freedom and control over my music habits. I worked with 6mm magnet tapes for a couple of years and that was another lifechanging experience for me, when I realized how much stuff is out there waiting to be discovered. Music that you will likely never find online, unless someone digs out a physical copy of it (be it vinyl or magnet tape or anything) and digitizes it for the internet to see. That's a fascinating feeling one has to experience in order to understand what it's like to actually, well, *experience* the music.
so i am slowly adding to my own collection of music again after quitting about 12 years ago. i do use spotify to figure out what to get and what to skip out on.
i like how when you quit spotify you started going deeper into an artists discography. thats what happened to me when i started using spotify, oh this artist has 12 albums? lets have a listening marathon this weekend and see what i like and dont like.
people always say spotify is convinient. but i don't think so. because player app including good old windows media player gives me more features (like organize with genre tag, year tag, 5 star rating tag). spotify doesn't have those features. It has large catalog but that's it. I already have big collection.
It feels so weird but i cancelled my spotify after my student discount ended, and just had the free version laying in my phone. I realised since last few months that I rarely listen to music and just removed the app too. I occasionally listen to a song on my laptop on YT or desktop spotify when it gets stuck in my head but otherwise im just without music and it doesnt even bother me now.
Most of these “problems” with Spotify seem to a problem with the way you listen to Spotify.
It's the issue of convenience. The way he used Spotify isn't inherently wrong--in fact it's really the way Spotify intends its use. They always show the top songs of artists or top plays of an album. Convenience can hinder attention span by making it much shorter.
@@SgtJellymeh, i agree with OP. I don’t have any of the issues mentioned here, and i don’t feel forced to use spotify in any particular way, it usually does everything i want it to. Also, when it comes to top songs, I tend to find that they are usually the most shallow and rarely end up being my favorites. Only reason I would ever click into a top 5 songs on an artist page would be to get a feel for their style
you can totally use spotify in the way he describes. i think for a lot of people though, physical media will nudge them to conscious listening/listening to whole albums. you need to be quite dedicated to use spotify in that way.
@@akane1928 Personally, I only use Spotify to listen to albums.
@@SgtJelly Someone's brain must be really fried in order for that to happen.
John Fahey is incredible, great find Spencer! Would love to hear some of your music next time! Cheers, Ian
Thanks Ian! Planning to share some more soon :)
Hi Spencer! Refreshed my subscriptions page at the perfect time!
This was so good, you communicated this well. I went back to physical media 6 years ago, and it really changed my life. I love listening to full albums, I’m currently in my Paul McCartney phase, found some cds of his at the thrift store. Because I am trying to save money, I have to live with my cd and records for much longer before I move on. Great tip about discovering artist from Wikipedia, I’ve never tried that before 😊
Thanks for the kind words :) glad you enjoyed the video! Paul has some great tracks - I’ve only delved a bit into his post-Beatles work but I’ve enjoyed many of the songs I’ve heard. Great idea getting them secondhand and really enjoying them thoroughly before getting more!
I really like your take on this. I have 3 rules for buying physical media - 1. I really want to hear the album/watch the movie, 2. The album/movie/show has special significance to me, or 3. I found it in a bargain bin for really cheap. This has two benefits - I have good representations of memories that are meaningful to me, and it keeps spending down. Generally, I have to really want something to buy it, so I have to do research to decide if it is something I want. Just that little bit of research makes what I do get that much better
These are great tips!
We had friends over from the UK an had a great week. Our evening discussions were about what Vinyls we owned and still enjoy. Imagine years later and all you have is your bank statement with the SPOTIFY payments. To thank you for our week together they offered me a second hand vinyl by Everything but the Girl,EDEN. a classic.
That’s great to hear! Agreed, years of payments to Spotify doesn’t give you much once you stop the payments. Owning even a few key albums gives you something that’s yours for the long run. Thanks for the comment!
I get the whole convenience thing when it comes to Spotify etc and it does have its benefits but you can't beat the feeling of listening to your own collection. I still buy CDs and I love it. I left my MP3 player in a pub in Liverpool a while ago and I was devastated 😂. As you say, listening to full albums is great. I've been listening to Sign O' the Times by Prince and it's absolutely perfect. I have a couple of hundred CDs and I'd never be without them.
I signed up for Apple Music in 2019, this wasn’t going to replace my 500 (or thereabouts) cds nor stop me buying albums I’ve discovered on physical media if I really liked them.
So streaming became an expense ‘on top’ of buying music, not a cost effective alternative.
Another point, I was adding studio albums to my streaming library by artists with whom I only owned a partial discography, often just a compilation.
This act became very unceremonious, building up a backlog of “must get round to listening to those 10 Bruce Springsteen titles”. Buying music makes me more selective and the cost means a slower rate of acquiring titles, which is more rewarding. I cancelled Apple music streaming a while back.
I love the idea of having my own collection and appreciating the music I have to me.
As a music lover and owner of a robust physical CD and Vinyl music collection, I still use Spotify. I think it's an excellent tool to be able to discover new music (without relying the algorithm) as you have immense catalogue of pretty much any artist you could think of with so many user-created playlists that encourage sharing of new music. I find myself listening to many more albums by streaming, and that often leads to me making an easier decision to go out and buy the physical versions to better support the artists. I have a good balance with the convenient music access from Spotify that supplements my personal listening collection. I get that not everyone likes the concept of "renting" music, but it just isn't possible to own every single piece of music that I enjoy or casually want to hear.
I don't have problem with Spotify, other than the fact UA-cams algorithm gives me 1000x better music and music recommendations and i don't even pay for it. So i no longer pay for Spotify either.
I do still buy music digitally or a physical cd & I had Spotify for about 5 years up until last week. You're right I never listened to full albums on it. My wife loved to play Spotify playlists during work all day long and I knew she would miss it. So we cancelled Spotify and signed back up for Apple Music as I like that platform better. I noticed myself and especially her listening to full albums again not playing these random playlists etc. Listening to full albums more made me full back in love with listening to music intentionally. I find us turning off the TV way more and just listening to music and talking more.
King Gizzard is a great band, love seeing them shown off even if its only due to their insane output of music!
I’ve seen them twice 🤘
Here in India, yearly Premium individual subscription for spotify costs about 15 US Dollars. Also UA-cam Premium costs about the same around 17 dollars for a full year which also comes with UA-cam music bundled. So I never felt like I am spending so much on music.
You make some great points about finding music through social media. Literally just following every artist I enjoy on IG has done so much for developing my music taste further. Also researching artists and seeing what label they're on, who they've toured with, who their influences are, etc.. is huge for me. All of that creates a sense of interconnectedness that is missing when you are just taking whatever the algorithm feeds you. Sometimes even just listening to the mood music they play before a concert starts can turn you onto an artist. Then there are of course apps like Transistor on Android that can stream radio stations from across the country for free that are great when I'm sick of everything else I've been listening to.
That said, I really couldn't afford to sustain my music appetite without streaming lol. I still buy records for albums I really love but music is important enough to me that the monthly cost for streaming is worth it. I did ditch Spotify for Apple Music though and I think their UI is more suitable for intentional listening.
The first reason is the best for me , I’m in transition from apps to physical and listen full album . Rediscover like clockwork from queen of the Stone Age ! Masterpiece
Just download music like the old days in your laptop/desktop and then sync or drag the music to phone! It may cost time but it’s worth doing
I own a small collection of CDs, but still love listening to albums back to back on streaming services, and I actually rarely listen to playlists
I did the same thing: In January I decided to cancel Spotify, Netflix, AppleTV+ and every other streaming platform I was subscribed to. I only listen to music that I own and have bought on iTunes or vinyl. That way I know I am supporting the artists I love in a much better way - that was very important to me. And as someone who gave up social media 2 years ago (UA-cam is the only platform I still use), I also wanted to avoid algorithmic curation (the best way I can...). I want to choose what music I listen to or what movies/shows I watch. I don't see myself going back to those platforms, and if I ever really want to watch something that's only on Netflix (I'm a Stranger Things fan!), I can subscribe for a month and then cancel.
I've been going on a physical media kick these days, especially movies and TV shows since video content streaming services have screwed us all over. Music streaming is a different animal, however I've been buying physical albums again. However I have a YT Premium subscription so I have access to YT music without ads. However I find myself listening to my collection at home, and TY Music only when I'm on the go.
I ripped all of my (good) albums and put them on my NAS and have a Navidrome server streaming me my albums. I may have acquired my vinyls in a different way, but I own a physical copy so shhhh… anyway re discovered my favorites from high school has been fun.
First month of quitting Spotify 👍 The only reason I was holding to it was laziness, quite frankly. I always listen to the same songs, therefore being subscribed to a music streaming service makes close to zero sense for me. Luckily, I still have my CD collection!
Good on you for keeping your CD collection! I felt the same as you in regards to Spotify - I had a playlist I made that I always listened to, so really once I owned those tracks there was no reason to keep paying beyond that. Thanks for the comment!
Rockbox + Piracy = Infinite music on ipod
Most of the stuff I listen to on Spotify is podcasts. Since I’ve moved to my iPod I’ve been loading my iPod with podcasts and rarely use Spotify. There are a couple of albums I like to listen to that I don’t have but I’m slowly buying the cds and ripping the flax to my iPod. Soon, I’ll be giving up Spotify because I just won’t need it anymore. Love your vids. Keep it up
Love to hear you're using an iPod too!
Yeah I get this. I've only used Spotify for maybe a total of a month when I gave it a shot, but have stuck with Apple Music otherwise. Coming from ripping CDs into iTunes, later just purchasing albums on iTunes, Apple Music felt like a way to retain the same habits, more or less. I've always been into albums - it's pretty much my default way to listen to music.
I found it pretty easy to just treat Apple Music like iTunes. I look up a band's page with search. If I want to check them out, I add an entire album to my library and listen to it. If I don't like it, I remove it. My entry-point is always my personal library - not the home, browse, or search tabs. When using Spotify, I felt like the UX choices they made actively discouraged me from operating this way.
That said, what I don't like about the streaming model in general is the pace of it. Adding an album to my library doesn't cost anything, so I frequently add way more than I can thoroughly listen to. Back when each album needed to be explicitly paid for, I obviously took it way slower. As a kid, that meant spending my entire allowance on a new CD once per month. As an adult, it still meant spending ~$10-15 CAD on iTunes. I ended up listening to those albums a lot more and got way better acquainted with them.
As for finding your own music, rather than relying on the algorithm: YUSS!!! I hugely prefer just reading about bands on Wikipedia, UA-camrs that do reaction content are a gold-mine (Nik Nocturnal, for instance), and generally using whatever means to hop from bands I know to bands I don't that they might be associated with. Discovering music is a hobby unto itself and way more fun than just passively letting the algorithm throw stuff at me.
iPod 6th Gen is so good! I've found that I'll very gladly fork up 10 bucks to actually support the artist I like and it even gives me a thrill when I buy an album that I can never get by just finding it on Spotify
Well explained! When I had an iPod in high school I had a better relationship with music then I do now. Sometimes more is not better.
Wikipedia is a gold mine for discovering music!!! I can’t stress that enough
What i do Is I Go to My Local Library and Rent Music CDs and Then I Burn Them Onto My Computer and my Phone.
#1 I actually download the whole album to my playlist so I do actually listen to every song on the album☺️
I am subscription free and have been buying electronic albums. i used to own a lot of physical media but don't have the physical space any longer to do so. If I want to listen to a song before buying the album, I listen on youtube music. I don't have a subscription so I listen to the occasional add. youtube music has a way better free experience than spotify.
Great points. Another thing to consider is that not all albums are released digitally. Was looking for the OST for Shop girl. Needed to purchase a CD in the end.
True! One of my fav Canadian folk albums never made it to Spotify so I had to rip the vinyl myself
Where I live there isn't place to buy CDs so I as you say sail the sea and then burn music to CD for listening in my car, empty CD is pretty cheap, like 25 cents
I literally had the exact same issue with king gizzard in the lizard wizard. Great band, but unless the artist included free digital copy with a vinyl record, I just have to either buy their CDs or pay for the digital track in addition to the physical media. Great band though!
Yeah I think digital copy should just be included with either format - vinyl costs enough anyway! Agreed they’re a great band!
When I had Spotify I mostly looked for music on my own accord. I had to be in a certain mood to find new music, and I still do since I cancelled my Spotify and started using iPods and MP3s. I like the point you make about having a story behind how you found an artist and I have one for one of my top artists: Amaranthe. I was on UA-cam watching music videos and accidentally tapped Amaranthe's cover of Sabaton's "82nd All the Way" and from that moment on I've been hooked on their music. Thanks past-me for making that slip up.
Thank you for showing your video and god bless you your family and your friends enjoy the rest of your day 😊 ❤ wherever you are love you ❤😊
I cancelled my Spotify because their business practices are so nasty and I was uncomfortable funding it. I got iBroadcast and dug into my old CD collection and it has all been fantastic. There are a lot of tracks I've had to download for now, but there's also a lot of artists I've paid to support directly. I now love searching charity shops for CDs I might like and I'm much more intentional with my listening ❤️
I use CD because it is the perfect sweet spot between the practicality of streaming and the physicality and ownership of vinyl.
For vinyl, you hold something in your hands and in your shelves, but vinyl is not portable at all and even so it is quite cumbersome, which part of the charm for some and I do get that, but I wouldn't want my entire catalogue that way. I have a few records and just got a player which is missing parts, so that'll just be for the quirkiness of it once I get around to it.
With CD, you still have something in your hands and shelves but you can bring them as-is into the car, or make copies to spare your originals, or do what I mostly do which is rip them into HQ mp3 or FLAC. Gone are the days when you measured the storage on your mp3 player in "holds up to 200 songs!!" - yeah, in 128 kbps or less. Storage these days is dirt cheap and ripping into 320 kbps is by far good enough for most people. Just a 32 GB microSD holds more HQ music than you probably regularly ever would listen to.
As for backing up, you can cram about 200 albums of 10 songs of 5 minutes each in 320 kbps onto a single-sided, $0,50 bluray disc of 25 GB (23,866 MB to be exact). You can then easily make multiple copies of it and have virtually all your music in high quality on just one disc lying around in your home, car, vacation home, at your parents', wherever, and you don't need to stream it from Spotify or your own FTP or anything. If you want to go the fully lossless route, the argument still stands but it's reduced to about 35 albums per disc, assuming all albums fill the entire disc they were pressed on (which they rarely do, so it's gonna be more). If discs are too cumbersome still and you want something even more digital, a simple 32 GB USB stick would do the same trick and then some. But bluray would be the more secure backup in the long run.
I wholly agree about listening to albums over single hits, however even with Spotify I still mainly listen to albums from start to end rather than individual songs. In addition to this, there are so many artists I wouldn't have found without Spotify, which I then listen to their albums and, if I am lucky, get to watch them live when they are local when otherwise I wouldn't have ever known about them.
However, owning your own music is definitely an appeal. It is a shame that when I attend a live show and want to buy an album from the artist, CD's seem to not be sold and only Vinyl seem to be offered (especially with CD's the cheaper option to Vinyl)
You’re right that the slow disappearance of CDs is a bummer. It’s a great format. I can totally see the benefits of having Spotify and in fact I think it’s the most positive streaming service available. I got rid of it to save money and start building my personal collection but a balance can exist where you do both. Thanks for the comment!
I have a Spotify premium family plan that my parents pay for but man does Spotify suck nowadays. I have a whole bunch of playlists downloaded and was suprised that in offline mode it wouldn’t let me navigate to the albums of the music downloaded. Crazy how Spotify relys on an internet connection. Buying music is so much better than streaming these days
All super great points. Looking forward to your video on how you discover new music. I have always been a album listener the only time I wasn't listening to albums was when I was a kid and I got my songs off the internet. And when streaming first came out and I was working a desk job so I was just making big playlists. But yeah albums is where the magic is and where you really discover if you love an artists work or not. Also howdy from Manitoba!
Just canceled my Spotify subscription last month, my mom passed on her vinyl collection to me which I love and I plan on getting more plus I’m saving to get a modded iPod classic which I’m so excited for.
Great to hear you’re trying life without Spotify dude! The record collection sounds awesome - I have a few from my parents and it’s cool that that stuff if able to be passed on
@@spencers-adventures I have such a love for the classics. Thanks Spence always watching your videos plus life without Spotify is pretty good so far just looking for more ways to be in the moment and enjoy my entertainment
I use Apple Music. I used to buy the MP3s of the new music I wanted, but my iPhone is a jerk about playing music I’ve ripped from my CDs. Things will be fine for a while and then it will skip over some tracks or it will say some are not available in my country, even though it’s played them before. I finally said screw it and subscribed to a family plan with my wife. I listen 90% of my music at work or in the car, so it has to be either streaming or MP3. I listen to every song, once at least, by the artists I like, but today there aren’t many that I like more than a few songs. So I wouldn’t buy the CD anyway
I tried spotify for 3 months and ended up disliking the experience. I like exploring and finding music on my own by finding bands and their influences. I also like to listen to specific versions (non-remastered) of albums but they were not to be found on spotify. I love listening to an album all the way through as I feel that a musician put the album together with intention much like a story.
Although I have a Spotify subscription, I take advantage of it to consume educational and informative content and of course, music that nowadays is hard to get on vinyl or CDs, however, I have my vast mp3 folder that goes with me on my dumb cell phone when I try to disconnect from the outside.
I'm a holdout. I never really joined the "stream team". I have a massive digital catalogue. It has taken hours to correct track labels. I love albums and AOR "album oriented rock". I only used Spotify free to discover new artists. I'm always looking for new artists. I've recently found a few great new bands. Shed Seven, Rolling Blackouts Coastal Fever, and SLIFT.
Using Spotify free to find new music is a great way to go. Good tip!
Yes that's exactly what social media has done to people. We don't take and enjoy the experience. We just want the next new thing. We have to Keeping up with the Joneses. That's just not how it should be. It's enjoy your music and take in the experience and the moment. That goes with everything not just music. Social media has ruined the experience and moments. Unfortunately it will get worse because people are competing with everyone to stay "Cool" keep up with the new "best" thing. At the end no one is enjoying the experience because they got to move on. That making a lot of people unhappy some don't understand what is making them unhappy. That's why I like channels like yours because you are helping people out. That's awesome. King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard is a amazing band. But unfortunately I don't own any of their albums. I should start getting some of the albums little at a time lol. I use UA-cam music app I really enjoy it but that mostly listening to new music to see if it something I would enjoy and eventually buy. I watch a lot of people on UA-cam that collect records CDs and that helps me discover new musicians as well. It's great.
Thanks for recommending this channel to me on UA-cam. I am a dumb phone addict.
I don't stream any music. I buy albums via digital download, or I'll just go to a store and buy CDs
Total sidebar here, but nice to see another fellow wrestling fan!
Ohhh ya!
This time I was ahead of ya Broski! Never used it. Keep up the battle with the bad Robots! I keep on adding tapes to the John Conner Supply LOL Keep on huntin'
Good to hear from you dude! Keep on huntin’ too!
I dont know how many views it would get, but it'd be fun to see a video taking us on a vinyl shopping trip.
I’ll consider that! Definitely it could work into a part of a future video I think 👍
I've never used spotify, but I've been using Pandora for years. It's okay for just wanting to fill the air, but if im looking for something specific, i listen to my own music or seek it out on UA-cam. Lately, I've been getting back into cassette tapes. Picked up a Walkman in great shape, and I have been using that to listen to music more than my phone. Ive also got well over 100 cds, and plan on getting an MP3 player to carry all that music around with me.
Love that you have taken up the Walkman! I have had a few boomboxes over the years so I have a few tapes left, but right now it’s been records/digital copies that I’ve been using most. Sounds like you’ve got a good CD collection too!
Store near me called 2nd and Charles has a 100 cd mystery box for 30 bucks. Tried it recently and got some great ones in it. Also, cut down bankers' boxes make great bulk cd storage. One box holds about 90 standard cd jewel cases. I have one filled, another over halfway, and one with albums I still need to listen to.
I’ve tried Spotify but didn’t like it as much as Pandora which I’d had for some time by then. I used to work for a record store in the late 90s, so I got a lot of good stuff for free or used. I still have these cds and every once in awhile I’ll pull something out of the vault. The whole tactile experience is more satisfying to me than just streaming a particular song. I still use my mp3 players in my car. Hell, I even have cassette tapes - mixed tapes were the best! 😅😊
Gonna quit Spotify sub (3 months for $16) when it's finished but it's nice for music discovery. I've already discovered a few artists I like and listened to their albums.
No longer need to rely on data and the Internet when you need to listen to music that you own via records, CD. While having the Internet is great, it's also healthy to not connect when wanting to play music or watching TV/Film.
Spotfy has gotten overwhelming even on offline mode! I signed up for premium to get new release albums but end up listening to playlists most of the time. I will soon go back to my CDs and music on an SD card.
I never used Spotify or any music subscription so i don’t know how they work besides having unlimited amounts of music!.
UA-cam has been a big part for me going back to 2008 for singles, remixes and new artist too.
One thing I love about albums is your dedicated to that 30 to 60 mins from that artist. When I play a cd I play through the whole thing.
When I was at work I fell in love with this song from Nessa Barrett, after I sampled the album on iTunes, I bought the CD 😊 and then I made a YT video about the album.
Imagine listening to pinkfloyd but not the whole album. Or Tool.
They were entire experiences.
I quit streaming because I listen to a lot of artists whose music often just disappears or becomes unavailable on streaming, not to mention the music I like that is simply not available digitally
I didn’t ditched Spotify yet bc I listen to music in different devices (when at home, job or wherever; with devices that aren’t mine etc), so it’s hard to do
I still use Mike sets CD's vinyls. And I normally use iTunes if I'm gonna download Music.
I've never had any subscription because I've never used a smartphone. Why get a subscription when you can download any music track from anywhere you like and load it on your mp3 or phone mp3 player?
And of course, in the recommendations from YT under this video, I got a Spotify post xD
But I think Spotify is really good for some folks like my bf, who loves pretty much every genre of music and wants to listen to all of it. But it's not so great for people like me, who would rather stick to what they definitely like, and slowly discover new music.
I figure we balance each other out. Like, he can have me listen to new bands, and if Spotify ever goes down, we'll still have my cds/mp3s to listen to xD
Love this idea! Sounds like a perfect balance :)
Spotify ruined music for me. I hate algorithms and feeling like a product being farmed for attention. Also shuffle is so broken in Spotify. I switched to my iPod but am settling in on sync my library with my phone. It’s so nice knowing that my music is mine
I've never used Spotify, and I have no intention of ever using a streaming service for music. 👍🏻👍🏻
How using spotify changed my life. I love it when I have the extra money.
I miss the good old record store…but we shouldn’t make it bigger. Those stores were mini algorithmic in the way they placed the albums around in the store. Having worked in those stores back when I was growing up I know what was going on. Still loved my own High Fidelity life from back then. I also jumped off from Spotify just because they decided to pay a podcaster millions instead of the artists (it’s more political than this but it’s one of the reasons). Now I’m at Apple Music and I mix it up with my own catalog of music through Plex.
I have Apple Music well just use the App with my own music. Over 5000 songs that’s mine. Best part Dont need internet to listen to it
With respect though, aren’t you just trading in the Spotify algorithm for the Instagram or UA-cam algorithm. I agree with your point on the importance of human curation, but I’d personally much rather listen to the Apple Music playlists designed by humans around an artist or genre, than try and find new music by going onto Instagram and UA-cam. I value my music listening as being something apart from social media
Eh, to each their own. I subscribe to Spotify and Tidal and have found heaps of new artists that I'd have probably never found otherwise. Plus if folks aren't listening to entire albums at least once, IMO, they're doing it wrong.
i own my music records and cds
and movies of dvds and vhs tapes ..so much freedom
subscriptions are not for everyone
What's the point of buying digital music from long dead artists?
1:46 when you said "local music catalog" you showed an Apple Music screenshot. Do you use iCloud Music Library to sync with your iPhone? How did you that without an Apple Music subscription?
I manually import songs using Apple’s Music app on my laptop 👍
@@spencers-adventures But you have to have a Apple Music subscription for it to sync with the iPhone Music app, no?
@@RibeiroLuc4s nope you don’t! I think for the subscription you just unlock the steaming part, but the regular media features are included. I’ve never had or paid for Apple Music
I deleted today not just Spotify, but also SoundCloud and Canadian-based Calm Radio too! I wish to listen to songs that I really like! I now listen to Radio Paradise, a listener-supported and commercial-free online radio station! I prefer supporting Bill Goldsmith and his online radio station rather than to deal with the bullshit junk that Spotify has become! Goodbye the stupid algorithm! ❤ 😊
Great work! I’ll have to look up Radio Paradise - I’ve never heard of it
A curious question: Are there people over eighty years of age who are very elderly people who own modern smart phones??
Discogs has never seen more of my wallet than recently after leaving Spotify.
Trying to pick up more albums I'm missing from my collection 😅
Is buying music on iTunes that much better? Like there are bands I listen to that don’t have any physical releases unfortunately.
If you use something like an ipod or just use an iphone it might be good for getting lossless files but bandcamp is probably the best overall.
Yes. it directly supports artists and you get raw M4A files on your computer that you can do whatever you like with, you actually OWN that content.
A curious question: Are there people over eighty years of age who are very elderly people who own modern smart phones??!!