Japanese View on Germans in WW2
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- What did the Japanese think about the Germans in World War 2? There was quite a change in the Japanese perception, additionally both the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy had quite different views and assessments. What changed over time?
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#Japanese #Germans #WW2
Japan: *at intense border conflict with USSR*
Germany: *signs Non-Agression pact with USSR*
Germany later: *declares war on USSR*
Japan: *signs Non-Agression pact with USSR*
coordination 100
i think if Japan invaded at the same time with Germany the outcome would be another.
its like some highschool drama except millions die or are expulsed :(
Japan : *Im gonna do whats called a pro gamer move*
@@Cal94 its not about how far japan would have gotten, but how much pressure their assault would put, to make it easier for the germans to push their front.
Germany: I declared war on the Soviet Union
Italy: Excuse me?
Japan: Well then I'll declare war on the US
Italy: *Wait no I didn't sign up for this*
Spain: I’m glad I didn’t join the fight
Switzerland: watching while eating popcorn
@@chernovbrichtofen4767 correction, Switzerland sit an eat chocolate while the Swiss Air Force are attacking US aircraft’s that entrees there airspace
@@nyancatbeatcreature.3782 add Sweden Chilling out watching them while eating a bowl of Swedish Meatballs
@@chernovbrichtofen4767
Finland : hi
@@nyancatbeatcreature.3782 neutral doesn't mean militarily friendly to all belligerents
Japan: Notice me senpai!
Germany: reading a paper with a picture of china in it
Steel Paw True but in WW2 it was the other way around. Japan had no interest in supporting German wars yet Hitler tried to involve them somehow even by declaring war on the US (although to be fair, by international standards of the time the US was already at war with Germany when they used their destroyers to save british ships and destroying German uboats)
practically just like that
@Guss Ruffee Lol, it wasnt that they had to share resources, that one limited the other. It was the hate. :D
@@Paciat It's both. That is called a feedback loop. Their resources were constrained so they cooperated less in an attempt to get more for their own agenda with exacerbated the resource problem which caused even more rivalry.
@@dinhnguyen2110 heck the navy even got Its own style of naming things... So fucking dumb. F.e. Homare engine was type 4(Ha-45) in the army (calendar based) yet NK9 in the navy. And that is just a engine...
Keep scrolling bois, don't mind me I'm just leaving a comment for the algorithm. This high quality dude deserves it.
He will change his name into High Quality Dude. No, not youtube nickname. His real name
o7
I clicked "like" on your comment for that very reason. You are right. People often say they want to click "like" more than once --- click like on a lot of comments.
I guess I will do the same...
Don't speak it's name aloud, it might be watching.
if anime taught me anything, it's that Japan has a very weird fanboyism of anything German :P
I just found out that they covered many songs the Germans have long forgotten about:
Lily Marlene
Erlkönig
Erika
Wacht am Rhein
...
"Super Aryan"
@@edi9892 the japanese will cover anything ua-cam.com/video/tYP0VtWj8Zg/v-deo.html
Think of it this way, Europe is exotic for Japan.
One aspect is architecture. Europe's full of secession, baroque, gothic and other architectural styles not very frequent over there.
Part of it has to do with early interactions with the Prussians, back before they messed up in 1914 and about after Japan industrialized and looked to emulating a foreign country's military. High speed industrialized military with a big pinch of Prussian.
There is actually a town in Japan that celebrates with German music every year after becoming aquatinted with the German prisoners
I was in Argentina in a city called "Colonel Belgrano" It had a October fest and all the Nazi decor anyone could want.
Yes my Opa was in the siege of tsingtao. The 2000 german soldier's held off the japanese navy for weeks. But they were finally defeated and taken to japan. Where they built a german village and exchanged cultures. Theres a yearly event that they play beethovens 9th symphony in bondo japan.
@@peabody3000 no, they use two chopsticks in a diagonal cross form as a substitute.
@@SynValorum ahhmmm in argentina?
Before WW1 in South-America the population's 10-15% was german. Maybe that city is descendants for them.
I was very surprised when I learned that during the Treaty Period, the only Europeans the Chinese liked were the Germans. The enclave at Tsing Tao was considered a model city and the Germans and Chinese seem to have gotten on quite well with one another. Also, bald is cool.
emosh73
Your mom is not cool 😎😎😎
I often wondered what would have happened if germany allied with china against japan. And how that would of effected the us after peral harbor.
@wood1155 Out of curiosity, what exactly did China have to offer that was "more" than Japan?
@@juliancate7089
My guess is more reasources.
@@juliancate7089 Just from sheer size China has a bigger potential than Japan.
-It has a lot of ressources
-It had a bigger workforce
-It would have been easier to establish companies there since the chinese weren't as xenophobic as the japanese.
Something I found very interesting was that Japan actually had some support for Poland when Germany invaded due to Poland’s good relationship with Japan as a result of there help in the Russo-Japanese war
How did the Poles help in 1905? Private ventures?
Germany: Japan. Let's sign an anti comintern pact.
Japan: ok.
*Germany sign Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
*Japan surprised Pikachu face.
*Japan signed non-aggression pact with Soviet Union.
Germany: OPERATION BARBAROSSA!!!
*Japan double surprised Pikachu face.
this is so damn accurate lol It seems that the Axis were just destroying itself the more time had passed. Hurting itself more than the Allies could do
US Government: What in sam hell are they doing over there? I haven't seen stupidity like this sense the War of 1812.
@@happygrunt4789 Self Roast?
@@templarlad392 Yes but also no.
What is "pika"-something?
You reference an older video, "where I still have hair." Lol! I really enjoy your understated sense of humor. As always, fascinating content.
"where I still have hair" when is that in the video ?
He does have hair, but that was a Long time ago
He still has hair. It just migrated to his face
Hair is over-rated. You now look wise and distinguished. Men age like fine wine, women age like milk.
As I have aged, I have not lost hair; it merely migrated to other places. I now have ear hair like a Ferengi Grand Nagus that I ritually cut with a trimmer bought for that purpose. I like that gag from Bob Eucker, "He leads the league in all offensive categories, including nose hair. When this guy sneezes, he looks like a party favor." It's just a guy thing.
@@Pulsatyr Me too. Hair on top of head is nearly gone. Nose hair, ear hair, & back hair all growing like some bad joke. Such is life!
Japan only wanted senpai to notice it.
Closest allies in Europe were France and Poland before Germany ran over them... with that said, Japan got no friends at all in Europe, German alliance was NEVER THE FIRST OPTION. The Japanese relied heavily on the new Polish secret service for training in decryption and continued their close military co-operation even after (post-invasion) German declaration of war against Poland, which was rejected by Japan for this reason (continued military co-operation). The Japanese relied on the vast Polish network of spies and allowed the Poles to openly place their agents inside embassies of its protectorate of Manchukuo. Their military cooperation was so close that the Japanese ambassador was one of the people involved in the smuggling of a Polish flag made for the London-based Polish Air Squadron. Before the war, Japan wanted Poland to join the Axis countries. At the time of the signing the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact and subsequent attack on Poland, Japan declared that from now on she would never trust Hitler anymore and would only use him for her own purposes, so as not to help Nazi Germany in the war with the Soviets at the end of the war.. japan and germany are more diplomatically enemies than allies in History.... germany supported qing china in the first sino-japanese war, Germany supported russia in the russo-japanese war, German territorial losses to Japan in world war I
Deutschland don't play
Yes
Stop stealing my body pillows.
Senpai means older than you
In China/Japan, I feel people are amazed by German technology advancement especially ww2 tanks, planes, submarines
Right now or during WW2?
Haoming Xia Well rn in China, everything non-Chinese is seen as superior, that’s from product, technologies to people/race, Chinese people have a big problem with foreign worshipping atm.
@@hwasiaqhan8923 its the same in all of Asia , it's funny to think when Europe was in the Dark ages , Asia was in an age of enlightenment and innovation . What have we come to ? Lol
@@dairyskeptic7428 uhm the middle eastern age of enlightenment was only after 700AD , the Asian golden age was way way before that 1500BC - onwards .
@@dairyskeptic7428 dwarves ? Please don't be stupid , there have been much older and advanced civilizations before the Islamic age .
If you want to look , just Google it , I'm not gonna teach you history here , not interested in having a debate either .
But the Chinese , Indus Valley civilisation and successive Vedic kingdoms , the Sumerians , Babylonians and Egyptians are much older classical civilizations .
Whatever knowledge the Arabs gained was by translating texts from Greek and other eastern languages , which they kept at Baghdad and after the library there was burnt in the 1200s, the Islamic world never recovered.
Do Italy's view on Germany in WW2 next, please.
Japanese view of Italy lol
BritTrot Ja
@@spade3779 you are so cringy
I’ll delete my comment if it makes you happy...
US A I could be wrong I think Italy and Japan got along pretty well. Just before the war, Italian arsenals completed a major contract with the Japanese navy supplying them with carcano rifles, since the Japanese army controlled domestic production of small arms and wouldn’t let the navy have any.
It's also possible Japan was disappoined by Germany's attack on Poland because they were allies in espionage against Soviet Union
Bazgoth Ar bullshit
Bazgoth Ar dude what
@@MrHogGamer Germany AND Russia at the time never considered Poland as a sovereign state, rather they thought it was just free real estate. And of course Hitler wanted Gdansk, Poznan and other stuff back so why not take rest of it? To even imply that Hitler didn't want to wage war against everyone around him is totally absurd. He most certainly did. "The fertile agricultural lands in the east are the future of German people" Mein Kampf? He didn't refer "eastern lands" as only to Russia, you need to go through certain country to get to Russia in 1939 you know. He was a sad little man with twisted mind and an urge to wage war. Basically Imperialist disguised as a Socialist. Same kind of warmonger as Churchill, Stalin, Hirohito and other leaders of that time period.
Germany was always aggressor when you talk about WW2 and every step was approved by Hitler or his adjutants, he was a dictator after all. And before you say "BuT BriTaIn AnD FrAnCe DeClArEd wAr On GeRmAnY, nOt ViCe vErSa", you know, that's how militarily guaranteeing a country works. AND Hitler attacked Poland only because he though that Allied guarantee of Poland was just a bluff, he didn't think they would actually join the war (In a guarantee situation, joining a war happens in a form of war declaration against the ORIGINAL aggressor).
So, Hitler MOST CERTAINLY wanted to attack Poland. He wanted it so bad, he "accidentally" pulled in 1/4 of the world against him in form of British Empire just because he was overconfident that Allies are just bluffing.
Germany and Poland signed a ten year non-aggression pact in 1934. Given Poland's anti-Soviet stance, don't you think Hitler would rather have Poland join the anti-Comintern? Once Marshal Pilsudski died in 1935, it started going downhill from there.
Let me correct you and your historical inaccuracies. The Soviets hated Poland due to the Polish defeat of the Soviet Red Army in 1920, basically crushing the Soviet plan to conquer more land and spread Bolshevism. Hitler ONLY WANTED old German lands with ethnic Germans living in it. Hitler simply wanted a corridor to connect to East Prussia. Germany and Poland signed a ten year non-aggression pact in 1934, yet Hitler didn't start trying to negotiate with Poland about the Danzig corridor until years later. Why not do it when your relationship with Poland and its leader, Pilsudski is at its best? Hitler started making these claims when the ethnic Germans in Poland started making their voices heard that they wanted to be reunited with the German Reich. Of course, Hitler felt compelled to do so since Germany's political power had only increased. The British, French, and US governments sabotaged every peaceful solution that Hitler offered to Poland. All of these governments were very anti-German, maybe you can guess why. The war guarantee gave Poland all the confidence they needed to ignore Hitler's offers for talks. Poland was ready for war. You can ignore and mock the fact that Britain and France declared war on Germany first all you want, but you can't ignore that it's the truth. Hitler said after the defeat of Poland, no war, yet the British and French governments didn't listen, as they wanted war with Germany. How does that make Germany the aggressor when they are declared war against and offer peace several times? After Poland fell, after France fell, Hitler offered peace multiple times. Also, due to the declaration of war against Germany, Hitler was forced to make pre-emptive moves to ensure the defense of Germany. If no declaration of war, no pre-emptive invasions and occupations of Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, etc...Hitler had admired the British Empire and had long sought to be allies. Funny, that people like you can't answer a simple question. If the Allies were so concerned about Poland and its independence, why did they ignore the Soviet invasion of Poland that happened just two weeks after Germany's invasion? Why did the Allies simply ignore Stalin taking ALL of Poland and half of Europe in 1945?So, no, Hitler didn't want war with Poland, or anyone in Europe. War was brought to him simply because of the people he called out. Hitler certainly didn't want war with the British Empire, which he admired and even said he would give troops to if need be.
In the book 'Japan Against The World ' the author Russell Braddon stated that he learned from his interviews of Japanese officials after WW2 that if Hitler had been able to take Moscow then the Japanese would have invaded the Soviet Union instead of attacking the U.S. Stalin kept 1,000 T34's in the far east until the last minute. When his spies indicated the Japanese were not going to invade, he sent them to Moscow and they initiated the big counterattack against the stalled Germans. Imagine if Hitler had made Moscow more of a priority than he did.
1000 tanks were a drop in the bucket for Russia. It allegedly had about 40,000 in reserve. It had more tanks than the Germans had ammo to destroy them with.
Taking Moscow would have been extremely difficult. Germans should have concentrated more on the Caucasus.
The Japanese sailed in November 1941 towards Hawaii (and that does not include build up time). The battle of Moscow was at that point not decided. Shukov arrival is considered to be the turning point and he did not arrive from the far East before the 6th of Dec.
@@haldir3120that was the problem with the navy. They wanted their own war rather than coordinate with the army.
My great grandfather was a German POW in Japan back then. We have a diary lying around somewhere but I can not for the life of me find it.
if you find it, drop me an email. I likely can't read it, but I know historians who can.
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized I can read it :) I will let you know if I find it but I moved towns so I probably won´t get to it in the near future.
@@TomOkkaTom Pls find it historically important
@Honour AK yes actually just yesterday. It is surprisingly uninteresting though. No personal insight and rather an account of what happened to the city. At least the few pages that I have read so far. I had hoped for a typical diary with a more emotional approach or at least some personal stories.
Which war? WW1?
Japan: Hey you guys cool for peace with Germany?
Soviet Union with over 20 million casualties: *BRUH MOMENT*
Meanwhile in Italy: How do I build a tank?
Italian tanks were better than Japanese paper tanks
Check out P26/40 was an Italian World War II Heavy tank. It was armed with a 75 mm gun and an 8 mm Breda machine gun, plus another optional machine gun in an anti-aircraft mount. 60mm frontal armor and 45mm sides and rear armor. It can destroy any Japanese tanks easily.
@@VashtheStampede007 Don't get mad bro
@@Rob17kLiebermann ，
I was not mad. Just stating a fact. Italy actually had good tanks. But japan did not.
@@VashtheStampede007 Actualy Japanese Tank were quite good, For they’re Intended Purpose, they we’re meant as small Fire Support Vehicles that could be used in an Amphibious War Strategy plus they could hide pretty easy in the Jungle
Legend has it, their tanks were most heavily armored at the rear...makes you think...
"rather it was a collection of predators, none of which trusted each other". Damn, I never thought of the Axis that way. Wow, it's true huh?
Germany: All we have too is take out is Russia, and Britain.
Japan: *Bombs Pearl Harbor*
Germany: Really? 🤨
G A M E O V E R
We Germans are to loyal.. 😏
Just Britain.
What i read most of the general in germany were against declaring war on the US but hitler was like sike xD
The German People: What zhe hell is wrong with you freund!
2:55 You still have hair. It just fell down to the lower part of your face.
Newton explained all that.
Psh I’ve seen man in the High Castle I know what they think
@For Aiur idiot
@For Aiur Well at least you were honest and didn't do the bracket shit.
@For Aiur and you use the very jewish media right now
@@silverdeathgamer2907
((((((((((((((( bracket shit.))))))))))))))))))))
What you don't know is Philip K Dick was clinically insane and certified so. He had his lucid periods, but only wrote when his insanity in control. Most people don't know this.
Axis uncoordination / This reminds me: The single most important fact about WW2 I have learned from your amazing videos was in another video, how the German invasions of Denmark, Norway, and Netherlands compromised and damaged the big merchant marines or globally important sea carrying trade of all three neutrals. That had never occurred to me before and I had never seen that in print. That didn't matter to blockaded Germany, but worked to Japan's strain and detriment for obvious reasons. Since the point of Japan's war with the Western powers was resource acquisition to fuel China conquest (with regional domination in the process), putting Japan in more of a position of disastrous autarky in commercial shipping damaged the value of those gains.
Japan was able to intimidate France and Thailand out of their limited resources and at the same time was able to blockade Chinese, but Britain and Netherlands could not be intimidated and the United States obstructed the sea path most of the colonial resources needed to take to reach Japan. Lack of Axis coordination in policy regarding the Soviet Union made these problems worse.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
That's about it. Convenience for both sides.
Thank you. Everything else is projection.
The Japanese looked at Prussia in the late 19th century but around WW1 Japan grew quite independent of western influence and wasn’t looking to a particular power. If anything Britain and the US were often the focus point of attention.
In the 1930s Japan was looking for any ally to support them and only Italy and Germany were willing to do so despite the Japanese anger that Germany supported China.
The Germans also never understood the Japanese. That they came across as unwilling to listen or understand was of course the Japanese tactic of not getting entangled with Germany‘s plans and they were very successful in that.
My maternal (German) grandpa was a major serving as advisor to Chiang Kai-shek during the cooperation with China, he spoke Chinese fluenty as he had grown up in Tsingtao. He and his family had to flee, the Kenpeitai already had asked my grandma about where grandpa was...
Interesting how the Japanese army was modeled on Germany and the Navy was modeled on the British. And they didn't much like each other.
Sir! The Japanese have given us access to their aircraft carrier Akagi! How should we return this big favour?
Idk just give them some plans about one of our random pocket battleship...
Not like the Reichsmarine had anything better to show at the time.
@@jackvac1918 That's true sadly...
@@jackvac1918 bismarck?
@@gamerdrache6076 _Bismarck_ wasn't even built yet at the time. The most advanced large ships in the Reichsmarine in 1934 were the pocket battleships _Deuschland_ and _Admiral Scheer_ .
@@jackvac1918 And the Bismarck had nothing on the Yamato.
The concept that the Japanese military was modeled more on the Prussians as opposed to the French might explain some other things.
Including how the Japanese government often behaved like three allied countries, with the Navy, Army, and Japan itself often declaring wars without the consent of the other two. Japan had adopted the "Not a country with an army, but an army with a country" model that Prussia had.
Japan: "Remember when our Navy was emulating the greatest Maritime power in the West? That was a terrible idea and thus we've aligned ourselves with Germany."
The German POWs from WWI introduced the Japanese to the music of Beethoven, specifically the 9th symphony. That seed took root and since the end of WWII the popularity of the 9th grew and today it has become a christmas tradition all over the island to have live performances.
Germany: * exists *
Italy: * exists *
Japan with Anime for fangirls: "...i might have an idea"
Hetalia?
Those girls are legit weird. They be like i stole your man. You mean like your imaginary friend that was prob influenced by some weird cartoon fetish? 🤔🤷🏻♀️ Respeck 👊. Cant really wrap my head around that insult
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Kancolle and Azur Lane
Bismarck
Prinz Eugen
Grad Zeppelin
“I swear to god if they ask us to invade the USSR one more time”
1 month is all you need
Roy M 3 years is all the soviets need hehehe
Seems like the Axis powers were really just a pack of squabbling vampires fighting over scraps of power.
Whole plot for castelvania is based off WW2
back in school i was forced to say that the germans wanted to invade the soviets for resources fuel and to link up armies with the japaneese while i clearly knew that that wasnt the stuff. nevertheless it made me angry.
@Ash republic of northen macedonia
southeast europe
Why did they make you say that? Why couldn't you say the truth?
@@WarPigstheHun a-a-and what is that misterious forbidden truth?
Yeah! TELL US THE TRUTH, WHAT DID YOU SEE!?!?!?!???!?!?!!
The truth is LEBENSRAUM
Poor Japan, actually it seems like he was the one who wanted to alliance... and the germans only tought them as "friends*" thats the same thing she did to me the last year....
was she german? ._.
are you japanese? ._.
nah more like servant!! nazis are extremly racists!!
@@Carlo-qj5jl also japanese... so its the same
@@Carlo-qj5jl I wouldn’t called them racist because they did have an Arabic regiment and some African soldiers as well.
Pows being treated very well by the japanese? Thats something i never expected hearing lol
I am glad you read Drea. He has a nice readable, fascinating history of the Imperial Army and their insane master plan to fight the entire world.
Dewitt Bourchier drea ???
@@lordj3793 Edward Drea.
@@dewittbourchier7169 I just read that same book myself a few weeks ago, and I second your endorsement.
Very good as I learned a lot from a different perspective. Thank you for taking the time to make and post.
Japan maintained cordial relations with Poland during the war and opposed the German invasion. The more you know.
I love history and I find it interesting that the Japanese conflict between the Branches of the Military was actually just the latest Expansion pack in the game of Clan Warfare as earlier in history the Boshin war caused the divisive nature between the Choshu Domain (Mori) and Satsuma Domain (Shimazu) to come out in full force.
It took me awhile to identify but determined that his guy has a strong Milwaukee accent.
Cut green beans and yogurt.
Ha, really? I, as a German, thought he has quite a bit of a Mumblo-German accent :) Zhe Tshermans and zhe Tshapanese... lol
@@elwray3506 yeah Milwaukee has lots of Germans living there
@@thatsaboat2882 Thanks for letting me know. Though, watching from here, they all seem pretty American to me ;)
nope, grew up near Milwaukee.
Japan near the end of the war:
"Baka! You never loved me! I knew you always liked China more! But you told me sweet-nothings... and promised to protect me from tea-drinker-san and hammer-sickle-san! It was all a lie! I can't believe I even...showed you my carrier...I've never done that with anyone else...I've been in love with you ever since you beat baguette-san, I will never forget how you were so cool back then..." *sob*
cringe
You have as much humanity in you as the soviets, none.
creyngie
Many in Germany also thought very high about the Japanese. When Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, H*tler sayed "Now we can't possibly lose the war. We have an ally that has never been conquerd in 3000 yeaes." The German press also told very enthusiasticly about Japanese victories.
H*tler himslef even declared the Japanese as "Asian aryan" (or something like that).
Uh.. yellow skin, black hair and brown eyes r nothing "aryan"
@@idisplaypace2411 Tell that to Hitler
Some in Germany called the Japanese the "Prussians of the east"
This was a fascinating topic, but surely Japan-German cooperation improved after Japan's disillusionment in 1943. Afterall, we know they had communications regarding amphibious imvasion information and Germany gave Japan rocket technology for their Okha rocket powered suicide planes. Then there was the Tiger tank the Japanese got.
Japan never got that Tiger I.
Bence Juhász they did
@@ostwind7031 No, Japan sent a delegation to Germany so they could do test trials on the Tiger, but they never actually bought it.
Anyways, do you really think they could fit a 54 ton tank inside a cramped U-Boat and deliver it to a place 6,000 miles away while having to avoid the British, American and Soviet navies all at the same time?
@@andrewleonard475 Thank you.
@@bencejuhasz6459 Np
Nice video! A great topic almost never mentioned in popular histories. My only suggestion would be to emphasize more frequently when the cooperation involves the Imperial Japanese Army or the Imperial Japanese Navy, rather than just saying "the Japanese," since it would reiterate that the two services had independent perspectives of the Germans. I do hope you can find some good periodicals on Japan's view of Italy in future.
Just discovered your channel. Most informative. Even now we still discover many things about WW1 & WW2. Its always interesting to get the views of all belligerents in war. Thank you.
Sometimes i think: why were Japan and Germany even allies? It seems that they had little to no coordination and received little benefit from each other. If they had coordinated against the Soviet Union, the war might have ended differently and the US might have remained neutral
It should be noted that many Japanese Navy officers such as Yamamoto, Yonai and Inoue strongly opposed joining the side of the Germans.
they are not important at all
@@dazerrazer3018 That’s up to interpretation but I was just saying it as an interesting point to consider.
LOL! In the 1980’s when I lived in San Diego the US Navy provided the Chinese PLAN multiple tours of Aircraft Carriers. How’d that work out?!
Robert Dawson
Im sure it worked it fine for whomever received the bribes
Robot Bjorn ... they sold this as if we have good bilateral relations with the PRC, China will liberalize. Wishful thinking. Definitely NOT what the PRC communist leadership was seeking
@@Idahoguy10157 "the companies are free, but the people still arent!" -China
Exactly. USA was played for naive fools. That is the simple answer.
Totally useless for the Chinese since they went with old surpluss Russian tech and copied that as always.
日本としては戦略上結べるのがドイツぐらいしかなかったって話だけどな
米英の敵サイドで強い国はドイツぐらいだったから
ドイツ側も日本と結んだのはそんな理由だけど
イデオロギーとかはバラバラだから日独の共同作戦は物資の供給くらいであとはほとんどなかった
ドイツは中国と蜜月だったし、日本はユダヤ人助けるし各々割と好き放題やってた
元々第一次世界大戦まで敵同士だったし同盟といってもあくまで互いに利用価値がある戦略上のパートナーってくらいでしかなかった
As Always, a considered well-argued presentation of historical interest,.. well done
The Axis: a group of predators with total mistrust in each other. Indeed.
Cody, really? I have been very interested in world history for the last 50 years and have never come across these things you say about the Polish, French, and British before. Could you site some verifiable sources? I am not being sarcastic here, I am genuinely interested in how you came across this information. @Cody Sonnet
@Steve Seems irrelevant whether Germany was villainous, started the wars, etc. They lost. Rather decisively. It's a shame they couldn't hold out for the Manhattan Project fireworks.
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Yeah, allies were not that good.
.....because the Soviets, British and French trusted each other so much....
@@bruceparks3124 Dont fall for this. This was german propaganda, to justify their attack on Poland. German Spec-Ops wearing polish uniforms even killed a whole German radio station to use it as anti Polish propaganda. Today these "attacks" are still commonly used by german Nazis to try to give the allies the guilt of starting ww2.
It can't have been easy for you to do this video. Respect.
I agree with the final assessment: It feels like the Axis felt overconfident about their chances of victory, so many many speculative grandiose plans about a future that never arrived and neglected the pressing issues of the present. Due to their overconfidence in their coming 'inevitable' victory, they failed to build up a firm foundation of trust, teamwork, alliance, coordination, and many other such things. This allowed poor timing and poor support to play into the hands of the allies.
Over time, the cumulation of all these little mistakes of teamwork falling through the cracks led to the war to shift against the "sprint to the finish line" strategies employed by the Axis Powers: Blitzkrieg by Nazi Germany, shock attacks by Japan, and shocking speeches and declarations of war etc by Mussolini. The endurance of the allies, brought together by desperation with a common extinction seeming to loom upon them all, caused them to set aside their differences and work together in a way that lasted until the final two nuclear bombs ended the second world war.
Naturally, an alliance built upon the premise that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is not, by any means, the most durable, leading to a cold war that only ended officially in around 1990, but seems to be on the verge of returning.
It's fascinating how much Japan rested their faith on what they believed to be the assured victory of the German Military. Unfortunately for them, they failed to realise that the relationship between the Wehrmacht and their Fuhrer was very stained at the best of times, which further compromised the German cause.
Thank you very much for lighting this point I have always ask for this subject
〜1941〜
Japan wanted Germany to attack Britain.
Germany wanted Japan to attack the Soviet Union.
But Japanese attacked pearl harbor
Japan nowadays: *Doitsu kun*
German nowadays: *..........*
Germany: IMA TAKE OVER THE WORLD
*Japan has joined the chat*
Japan: Fight me first
Excellent and lucid analysis. I particularly liked how you worked in citations to sources to support your positions, making this extremely scholarly.
Backstage there was a lot of military&tec talk between Germany and Japan during the entire and even in the late war.. (imho)
Could you do a video on the Aleutian Campaign? That would be interesting
I think he already made
From what I can tell, he has not.
My great grandfather fought the Japanese there
The Axis Power literally the most worst team ever played at war in history
Apalaharti Sebuahnama hardly the case
*the worst
Not the worst though. Really a hard adversary
Oh Boy you really dont know much about history if you think that
Well allies were pretty bad too considering they ended up in cold war for decades.
Much of this information I was aware, but you brought up some interesting points and strategies which were not known to me. Good appraisal.
Pretty good, and the movie Yamamoto (Japanese movie about him) gave the same impression, which I had wondered if it was correct. Apparently the Japanese translated and published Hitler's book, at least for their officers, and omitted the part where Hitler calls out the Japanese for being useful idiots.
Yeah yeah yeah what is more plausible; That ultra Nationalist Imperial Japan omitted the part where Japan's biggest ally in the war calls them useful idiots, and continues to play the part of said useful idiots for Germany or that since Mein Kampf was written while being incarcerated as a political prisoner well before Axis coalition that it never occurred and is merely projection from a book that for 60 years has been censored and been heavily edited since? Couple that with the fact that winners write history makes your version of events seem rather odd.
Especially the 'useful idiots' phrase, I have read Mein Kampf and some of the Communist manifesto and I can almost swear that I read Lenin using the term 'useful idiots' to describe socialists.
Actual line still sounds stupid to me, not saying you are, just think about it from Germany's point of view. Would you risk upsetting your only ally by sending them literature that dishonors them - this during a time when Japan had a resurgence of Bushido warrior code? It's more plausible that Germany edited it out before handing the literature to Japan than vice versa.
I think it's bullshit. But I will believe it if I read it in a copy that was printed before 1950.
I don't want to speculate too much since it has been years since I read it but I kinda recall H had some admiration for the Japanese/Chinese because they had ancient cultures spanning thousands of years like Germany. Also he admired the British highly.
@@ssssss2546 The Germans didn't send it to them. During and after the Meiji Restoration, they acquired as much western literature as they could, and translated it.
Also note, it was supposedly censored out of the translated version.
Bushido code, eh? The Japanese were imitators... and a very "malleable people." Proud and racist by any world standard.
I don't think you're getting that info about Hitler's thoughts on China and Japan from that book, but public stuff later, when he had hopes that Japan might become an ally, and would assist against the USSR. And those were the best compliments he ever had for them. That their culture/civilization was older/more advanced in ancient times, than Germany's basically.
But the Japanese were too busy thinking the US would bow to them, and never joined in to help fight the USSR, which probably would have toppled the USSR early on.
@@ssssss2546 Also, Hitler's approval isn't something anyone should really hope for. One: socialist/neo-marxist. Two: Anything Hitler didn't like: Judism did it. Like the US and our horrible evil "Judaistic capitalism" according to him.
@@cavscout888 > Why is it that you think you can tell other people what is inside the book? I dont have insight into something but I talk as if I do... Information Age .. nevermind
I feel like he is pronouncing Germans like: "chairmans" xD No offense thats my subjective feeling. Good video
that's b/c he probly is used to the descriptor of Deutcheland(bet that just rolls rite out)
He has a pretty thick german accent
i love how you say tscherman
Good lecture, nice to see what you look like. Well done!
I always wondered how the Japanese viewed their Axis allies during that time. Thanks for the lesson.
Your ending statement is eye opening to those whom do not read WW2 history. The Allies were working as a team; where as the Axis powers had very little cooperation with one another. I enjoyed your video. I’ve subscribed.
The Axis was really Europe only.
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Thx for your thoughts. I have occasionally pondered that alliance, mainly because of their contrasting cultures. Your explanation is welcome.
They viewed them in a more tolerable light then they did compared to most other Non Yayoi Japanese
Thank you for citing the sources for your claims in this video. It was very helpful for a paper I'm writing for history class.
Excellent work here. Would have been nice to go a little further such as the capture in June 1945 (a month after VE day) of U-235 which was carrying the Nazi nuclear hard water, V-2 and the jet engine (ME262) to Japan. Upon capture by US Nave in South Atlantic, that hard water was used to complete our A-bomb. SO in an ironic way the hard water did make it to Japan!
Very well done video!
It's scary to think about what the axis could have accomplished if they worked together
a better world
Did Japan ever fight Germany during WW1 directly?
Mostly in German colonies in Asia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tsingtao
@wood1155 The warship SMS Wolf which raided the Indian Ocean and Pacific sank a Japanese warship.
The Japanese also seized the German Northern Mariana Islands.
In 1914 they did colonies at the time
My favorite detail about this relationship was when the Japanese diplomat was returning by train from Germany and passed through the obvious preparations for Barbarossa that the German's had not told them about.
Well we are not really talking about the axis as such here. Not Germany, Romania, Italy, etc. Japan had its own dreams of conquest and glory in the form of the Greater East Asian Co-prosperity Sphere.
Good video. Very thorough and insightful in bite size format.
Fun fact Soviets expected for Japan to break truth and attack them too but they didn't. They prepared noticeable army and waited for betrayal. They thought Japan would attack if they send parts of army to fight Germany. Many Soviet soldiers on border with Japan wanted to fight Japanese and were really disappointed when Japan surrendered.
I trust you mean "the border of Japan's conquered territory" as unless they were in an underwater base an island border is a truely unfortunately place to be stationed....
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There were secret urgent back door communications from Japan to Russia immediately prior to the nuclear bombings. Japan wanted Russia to join them in a fight against the Americans. The Bear said Nyet! The rest is history.
cool that you took the time to cite everything. just fixing to ask what books you found on the subject
From this video, i realized that Japanese is German fanboys from long long time ago. It's explained why a lot of Japan anime use German reference...
Where did you get this absurd idea from?
Conclusion: Don´t let the Japanese give you soccer betting tips :-)
AFAIK, more Japanese were able to speak German than English (due to Germans being needing in many domains in science) and what really amazes me is that to this day like every second anime has references to German culture and they even cover German songs that Germans forgot about...
Is that a Jojo reference? Also hitler joke in dbz lol. "Blonde hair blue eyes I must recruit you""
@@kstreet7438 I don´t watch any of these shows. What I meant are German names and numbers popping up everywhere, but also references to German fairy tales and literature.
FMA has a lot of references to the Austrian Empire before its collapse. PMMM references Faust. Black Lagoon has villains named Hensel and Gretel (two creepy kids). Requiem of the Phantom enumerated assassins in German....
I'm experiencing a bit of a memory lapse here... Did Germany field any carriers?
no, they planned to build the carrier Graf Zeppelin , but... they had other priorities in after 1941
They started but never completed the Graf Zeppelin.
military.wikia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin
Why was the Carrier Graf Zeppelin built & never finished?
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That's it. I figured that carriers wouldn't have made that much sense for Germany, mostly being locked in a land war.
Perhaps they would've been useful for a full invasion of Britain, but they never came close enough to do it.
For what it's worth, you can play as the Graf Zeppelin in World of Warships. ;)
Germany: The war is going great! All we have to worry about now is the British and the Russians and we are goo-
Japan: I just bombed Pearl Harbor
Italy: Why do i hear boss music?
italy has already been hearing boss music ever since they joined the war
Actually Germany was expecting a war with the USA even from 1928 in his book mein Kamph And was happy to wage war
@Combine Guard
Insert Hetalia episode joke:
Germany I have terrible news! Italy has become our ally!
Hahahahahaha
The Japanese were actually kicking America's ass for the first 6 months of the Pacific war until the battle of Midway. If anything it was Hitler who fucked up by not capturing Moscow and Leningrad early on during operation Barbarossa. Instead he made his army turn south towards Caucasus to try to capture Baku oil fields. Just another silly, incompetant central European who had no real grasp of strategy and geography.
The japanese Army Never had the logistics, nor the Armory to invade the Soviet Union. They had a big problem advancing in China, against an opponent almost without any heavy armory, without industry output...And they knew that very well after Khalkin Gol. The Japanese political and military leadership decided after 1940 to wage a war of conquest in the Pacific and South East Asia, after the oil embargo of the western powers...Their biggest mistake was awakening the US with the attack on Pearl Harbour, they could just begin by occupiyng Indonesia and the british colonies, where there was oil, rubber and plenty of minerals and agricultural assets, without provoking directy the US...Of course, the US would´ve enter anyway the conflict in the Pacific, but only later, by late-1942, when the japanese Navy, Air force and Army woul´ve been much stronger than by late 1941...Just an opinion by someone who loves history...
Even if they don't attack Pearl Harbor, they still need to attack ALL of Southeast Asia, including the Philippines. Which is what most naval planners in Washington believed is Japan's target.
The Philippines is a strategical position that they need to hold to guarantee the occupation of all of Southeast Asia. Without it, the Japanese territory would be divided over Indonesia and mainland Asia (including the Japanese home islands). Transports carrying troops and resources wouldn't be safe travelling through those waters.
The main problem with the southern approach is that eventually, they need to fight the US, who has largest naval presence in the Asia-Pacific region other than Japan. Pearl Harbor sounds like a good idea to surprise the US, disable their ships, and capture and shore up the defenses of the newly conquered territories. Allied attempts at recapturing the islands of the Pacific that Japan took from them proved to be very hard, meaning the tactic could work. The problem was that they severely underestimated the US economy. The US has already worked to reinvigorate their economy, whether it was through Lend Lease or FDR's New Deal programs, that turning the large US industrial capacity to a war footing is like flipping over one's hand. The Navy was able to create an effective fighting force by mid 1942-early 1943 to halt the Japanese threat.
Axis wasn't much of an alliance, there was no real cooperation between the 3 and was simply a pact of not to attack each other.
US-Br >> US-Soviet > US/Brit - China >> Ger-Ita > Ger-Jpn
Good video, but work on the sound! You are very quiet in this video, not in talking, but in maximum available volume. It would be better if this was higher! Maybe accoustics.
Quite interesting video but it starts with a major mistake: the German Military Mission in Japan was only for the General Staff.
The French had four military missions in Japan.
- 1st French Military Mission 1867-68 (Jules Brunet was part of this one);
- 2nd French Military Mission 1872-80;
- 3rd French Military Mission 1884-89;
- French Aeronautical Mission to Japan 1918-19.
After the French defeat of 1971, the French themselves did not believe Japan would again look for them and were shocked the emperor's proposal. Also, the first French military mission had sided with the shōgun Tokugawa Yoshinobu against the imperial forces during the Boshin War. But nevertheless, the Japanese remained admirers of the French, and the Japanese foreign minister Iwakura Tomomi said, during his visit to France in 1873, known as the Iwakura mission:
The Minister for Foreign Affairs of the Mikado (Iwakura) said to our representative after our fatal combat against Germany: "We know about the sufferance France had to go through in this war, but it has not changed anything in our opinion on the merits of the French army, which showed great courage in the face of numerically superior troops"
- Revue des Deux Mondes (March-April 1873). Le Japon depuis l'Abolition du Taïcounat.
Taken from "La Mission Iwakura (1871-1873) et la France: ce que virent en Europe les Japonais de l'époque Meiji".
The task of the second mission, from 1872-80, was to help reorganize the Imperial Japanese Army, and establish the first draft law, enacted in January 1873. The law established military service for all males, for a duration of three years, with an additional four years in the reserve.
From 1886 to 1889, Japan also invited two German officers in parallel to the French Mission, who were responsible for the Army General Staff reform.
France would also gain considerable influence with the Imperial Japanese Navy, with the dispatch of the engineer Louis-Émile Bertin. In 1940, a Brazilian observer - Lt. Col. Lima Figueiredo - noticed the strong French influence in the Japanese system. The Japanese aviation was completely guided by the French doctrine. Gordon L. Rottman also noted the French influence in the Japanese infantry doctrine.
> Quite interesting video but it starts with a major mistake: the German Military Mission in Japan was only for the General Staff.
well, the reorientation was clearly not only for the general staff according to Drea:
“By 1889 the Prussian draft 1884 field service regulations had been translated into Japanese, and two years later the army
completed the transition from the French to the Prussian training regimen and immersed recruits in training and drilling according to the new infantry manual.” (Drea, Edward J.: Japan’s Imperial Army. Its Rise and Fall, 1853-1945.
Kansas University Press, USA: 2009, p. 59)
Can you do a video about how other Axis nation(mainly Germany and Japan) think of Italy and vice versa?
Since Italy and Japan also had submarines transporting goods to each other, I'm curious how they view each other during the war.
It's an interesting premise. If both thought they were the "master race" even though different races, how would they have fared if they won?
That would largely depend on "How". Both would likely take decades to swallow and consolidate over Russia and China, especially given their policies of brutal repression don't really endear them to their conquests, and military expansionism doesn't actually help an economy - Integrating conquered territory might.
Given that neither would have been in Central Asia, pretty well I think.
Japan never had an official doctrine claiming that they were the master “race”. Culture and spirituality? To a certain extent yes. Race? No.
@@kn2549 Really? They were fascists planning to dominate the globe, using the manpower and resources of China to do it. How would two competing fascist powers have anything but unending war until one or the other was hopelessly, completely conquered or just wiped out?
@@reyter01 Im talking about the “master race” you stated. Race and ethnicity isnt something Imperial Japan focused on too much. Culture and spirituality is.
Interesting point of view.
Well done Sir.
I have not come across this before & am a student of history.
“After the War we’ll invent this thing called Anime. All people will look like Germans.”
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"While I still had hair" nice one. Great video
It has been a great discovery for me to learn about this Channel! It is great! Regarding this episode, I have to say that the Axis allies might have been one of the worse ever. Japan, Italy, and Germany lacked proper coordination and everyone had their own agenda. Good work and Cheers from Peru!
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Until 1932 Germany was training and teaching the Chinese and was even allied with them.
It was really weird that after 20 years investment Germany pulled a 180 and switched allies.
@@guardiadecivil6777 the sharing of skills, knowledge, equipment, intel or personnel are characteristic features of an alliance. True Germany didn't have a mutual defence treaty with China in the 1930s but it cannot be understated that Germany did in fact offer military support to the Chinese for 20 years before relinquishing it in favour of Japan. And the only reason Hitler did so was because he felt the Japanese were better equipped to handle the Soviets in war than the Chinese were at the time.
@@rejvaik00 it's not because the japanese were better equipped than the chinese, it's the fact that the japanese was already at tension with the soviets. the chinese meanwhile has to deal with their own communist rebels and would not be willing to go at war with the ussr neither the ussr going to war with china. germany only supported the chinese to spread communism from spreading in asia and didn't really think of china as anymore than someone they're simply helping. of fucking course they would stop helping china once japan was at war with them since weapons and trainings used against the communist will be now be used against japan, a german ally
The German Foreign Minister realised that they were backing the wrong horse, so they backes Japan.
Why did Germany not inform Japan of its intention to invade USSR in the 30s? All Japan needed seems to be confidence in Germany's stance.
because they didn't have to, they expect japan to join in anyways since japan and ussr are already rivals. even if germany informed japan, japan already believed in expanding south
You have any videos on traning camps for all the different armies and how they compare?I know my state had a few pretty important traning areas like fort Benning. Was wondering about the Germans version
there is no academic work on Wehrmacht training (and I think not even a non-academic one).
There might be something on one of the different "schools", but I think even those are usually not from academics.
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized oh wow wasn't expecting that I thought it would had been more detailed. Thanks for the reply have a good day.
In the UK it was the division or an administrative formation like the regiment whose role it was to train new recruits, until we made specialist role training areas for basic training. Perhaps a similar model was in place in other countries?
@@DeezNuts-cg9gl But I'd imagine that even they would have the equivalent of the US Staff & Command College and other such command schools where all officers of a given rank would go to for further training.
@@Riceball01 Yes, we have had RMAS Sandhurst for all officers since the mid 19th century, like the Prussian kadettenhausm