I am a PIMO, currently serving in RS. The missionaries are one reason I have stayed. I feel very protective of them, they get treated like workhorses and with a complete disregard for their well-being.
I recently served in a RS presidency- finding families to feed our missionaries always falls on us ( not the man serving over missionaries in the ward). Anyways, the mission president made rules for feeding the missionaries so ridiculous that very few sign up. You must have a non member in your home for them to teach a lesson to in order for them to come and some other crazy rules. So I saw many holidays go by without anyone to feed the missionaries.
This is really not okay. They cut these kids off from their entire support system and then give them WAY too many rules about how they can connect with people. Everyone needs connection. And then they wonder why missionaries mental health is bad...😢
They need to quit being so controlling. Ease up a bit. I would definitely feed the missionaries anytime in my home, no discussions necessary or wanted. . Kind of reminds me the lower folks do more work than the higher folks they give more but those that are on the top like they get the $ 200,000 increase and do not have to pay tithing. It's how they do business. Not a fan. Paid clergy called stipend... You will know them by their fruits
Oh cry me a river.....anything, and I mean anything having to do with food and feeding people always falls under the auspices of the Relief Society. And that is how it ought to be. If the Ward Mission Leader were solely responsible, then the missionaries would never get fed, or they'd eat the most unhealthy foods available. When the RS is in charge at least the missionaries get a properly balanced meal that is hot and delicious. A mission leader would just get Little Ceasars and call it a night.
In her book, Prophets See Around Corners, Sister Sheri Dew talks about becoming the first unmarried counselor in the RS general presidency and her struggle to juggle that with her job being the VP of publishing at Deseret Book. Sister Dew explained that since her predecessors had all been married and therefore had not needed to maintain contemporaneous outside employment she was breaking new ground. Her primary concern appears to have been the avoidance of conflicts of interest. It made me wonder why the church couldn't have paid her a stipend like we do for male general authorities.
Because the church has always been cheap and very stingy when it comes to paying its members for anything in more concerned about their image and their finance and they are about their members. Coming from someone who was a member for more than 50 years.
As a parent, I could never put my child's health and safety at risk by sending them on a Mormon mission. Far too many young people suffer real, lasting trauma and are offered far too little support from LDS church. My child has hiked large portions of the Appalachian Trail, and he's been out for months, yet he ate well, had access to medical care when it was needed, and experienced zero trauma from any of his time on trail.
Maybe the missionary is from norway,Sweden, Iceland, or Canada, and they are used to fact that if it's above 10 degrees and sunny, it does not bother them.
Not funding the missionaries properly is not new. It is also scriptural. Jesus sent out his servants to preach two by two," without purse or scrip". In modern times, Joseph Smith did the same. The missionaries literally took what little they had and relied totally on the charity of others for a place to sleep and food to eat. Going into the 20th century a lot of governments began enforcing laws outlawing vagrancy and homelessness. This put Christian religious missionaries in a tough spot. They wanted to follow the example of the savior but also wanted to follow the law of the land. This is when Mormon missionaries began saving money for their missions or were supported by their parents and ward members. As a Christian, I do believe that it is okay to live a life of poverty while preaching God's word. But I also feel conflicted inside because I also feel the LDS Church needs to make sure the missionaries are safe from harm, and are getting the medication they require, and enough food to eat. My point that I'm trying to make is I don't necessarily believe the lds church is trying to be malicious or unsympathetic or cheap. I think they are genuinely following the example of the early saints of the New Testament who were called to preach and baptize. If you see a missionary who is freezing 🥶, exercise some Christian charity and offer him your coat(or assist him/her in obtaining one), if they are hungry, offer to feed them. Instead of calling the mission president and giving him a tongue lashing.
Condemn? Pointing out failure to take care of those that are volunteers is not the definition of condemning someone. If Jesus had $250 billion in his pocket and failed at feeding someone that was serving others, yes I would call him out.
Yes, condemning at church that cares more about its finances and image that does its own members. That’s a lame excuse when the general authorities are making 250,000+ a year plus free education for their children. Is that part of Jesus as well?
I am a PIMO, currently serving in RS. The missionaries are one reason I have stayed. I feel very protective of them, they get treated like workhorses and with a complete disregard for their well-being.
Thank you so much for looking out for them.
I recently served in a RS presidency- finding families to feed our missionaries always falls on us ( not the man serving over missionaries in the ward). Anyways, the mission president made rules for feeding the missionaries so ridiculous that very few sign up. You must have a non member in your home for them to teach a lesson to in order for them to come and some other crazy rules. So I saw many holidays go by without anyone to feed the missionaries.
This is really not okay. They cut these kids off from their entire support system and then give them WAY too many rules about how they can connect with people. Everyone needs connection. And then they wonder why missionaries mental health is bad...😢
I totally agree with the isolation and mental heath connection. @GenerallyUnquotable
They need to quit being so controlling. Ease up a bit. I would definitely feed the missionaries anytime in my home, no discussions necessary or wanted. . Kind of reminds me the lower folks do more work than the higher folks they give more but those that are on the top like they get the $ 200,000 increase and do not have to pay tithing. It's how they do business. Not a fan. Paid clergy called stipend... You will know them by their fruits
Somehow methinks the control is the whole point.
Oh cry me a river.....anything, and I mean anything having to do with food and feeding people always falls under the auspices of the Relief Society. And that is how it ought to be. If the Ward Mission Leader were solely responsible, then the missionaries would never get fed, or they'd eat the most unhealthy foods available. When the RS is in charge at least the missionaries get a properly balanced meal that is hot and delicious. A mission leader would just get Little Ceasars and call it a night.
I very much needed to hear that joy/positivity quote. Good find and great report, like usual!
In her book, Prophets See Around Corners, Sister Sheri Dew talks about becoming the first unmarried counselor in the RS general presidency and her struggle to juggle that with her job being the VP of publishing at Deseret Book. Sister Dew explained that since her predecessors had all been married and therefore had not needed to maintain contemporaneous outside employment she was breaking new ground. Her primary concern appears to have been the avoidance of conflicts of interest. It made me wonder why the church couldn't have paid her a stipend like we do for male general authorities.
Because the church has always been cheap and very stingy when it comes to paying its members for anything in more concerned about their image and their finance and they are about their members. Coming from someone who was a member for more than 50 years.
@@juliannejones8507 Do we know for sure she didn't receive a stipend?
As a parent, I could never put my child's health and safety at risk by sending them on a Mormon mission. Far too many young people suffer real, lasting trauma and are offered far too little support from LDS church.
My child has hiked large portions of the Appalachian Trail, and he's been out for months, yet he ate well, had access to medical care when it was needed, and experienced zero trauma from any of his time on trail.
Maybe the missionary is from norway,Sweden, Iceland, or Canada, and they are used to fact that if it's above 10 degrees and sunny, it does not bother them.
Not funding the missionaries properly is not new. It is also scriptural. Jesus sent out his servants to preach two by two," without purse or scrip". In modern times, Joseph Smith did the same. The missionaries literally took what little they had and relied totally on the charity of others for a place to sleep and food to eat. Going into the 20th century a lot of governments began enforcing laws outlawing vagrancy and homelessness. This put Christian religious missionaries in a tough spot. They wanted to follow the example of the savior but also wanted to follow the law of the land. This is when Mormon missionaries began saving money for their missions or were supported by their parents and ward members. As a Christian, I do believe that it is okay to live a life of poverty while preaching God's word. But I also feel conflicted inside because I also feel the LDS Church needs to make sure the missionaries are safe from harm, and are getting the medication they require, and enough food to eat. My point that I'm trying to make is I don't necessarily believe the lds church is trying to be malicious or unsympathetic or cheap. I think they are genuinely following the example of the early saints of the New Testament who were called to preach and baptize. If you see a missionary who is freezing 🥶, exercise some Christian charity and offer him your coat(or assist him/her in obtaining one), if they are hungry, offer to feed them. Instead of calling the mission president and giving him a tongue lashing.
baloney ! all they cares about is their money and their image and bottom line they don’t give a damn about the members. It’s all phony talk.
It’s 2025 and they are sitting on 275 BILLION DOLLARS. Where oh where is the “Christian Charity”??
Hello so you condemn Jesus also on how he and the apostles lived also.?
Condemn? Pointing out failure to take care of those that are volunteers is not the definition of condemning someone. If Jesus had $250 billion in his pocket and failed at feeding someone that was serving others, yes I would call him out.
Yes, condemning at church that cares more about its finances and image that does its own members. That’s a lame excuse when the general authorities are making 250,000+ a year plus free education for their children. Is that part of Jesus as well?