I must admit, I'm starting to binge on your videos. As some may have mentioned before, you really know how to explain and make the videos so engaging! Thank you Mike! Plus I know how much work goes into these and the logistics around it.
Thanks so much for your kind words. It does take a lot to make these but I really enjoy the challenge. ... And binge watching is always welcome here!! 😆😁 Thanks so much for watching and commenting, much appreciated 👍
I just discovered your channel today and I love it so much. Your explanations are very clear and captivating. Your editing is also perfect with all those transitions. And of course the quality of the contente... Amazing job!
Thanks so much for your kind words Rico! I do spend a lot of time writing and planning my videos so it is great to hear they are helping!! I have so many videos on my channel so make sure you check them out... and if anything is missing, let me know and I'll see what I can do. Thanks for watching and welcome to my channel. 😁👍
This video just showed up on my feed and loved your style and subscribed. Love pano's. So, to answer your question, the Hasselblad X2D with the firmware update lets you choose the crop factor of the old Hasselblad X-Pan film camera. I believe the new one released today (907x with the new 100mp back) can also do the X-Pan panoramic format, as the older 50mp back with the firmware update allowed for the X-Pan Crop. A lot of my photos lately that have the right composition I crop square if I can and Red River has a metallic coated paper and they do have a 12x12 paper as well as the 13x38 & 8.5x25. Black & White and Infrared photos look incredible on this metallic coated paper. Cheers!
Mike, I came to this video wondering why a great photographer/UA-camr as yourself would spend 7:32 on this particular topic when it has been done excessively and boringly already. I should have known- IMHO, it has never been done this well and this interestingly. Your points (and analysis) flowed across the subject from beginning to end with one enlightenment after another. I was mesmerized. This one is a keeper. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much for your kind words Jer. It was a tricky one to do, without being boring, and great to hear I kept you mesmerised throughout! 😁👍 This gets me so stoked to make more like this as well. Thanks for watching 👍👍
Dear Mike, I thoroughly enjoy your videos and learn so much from them. Happy holidays. May your new year be filled with potential and adventures. With sincere best wishes.
Thank you Mike. I like panoramas too and did quite a few of them lately. I usually make them as wide as the scenery allows me and then in post processing I can select the sections that looks best. I prefer coming home with too many shot over not having enough.
Exactly! With the low cost of storage, it's fantastic to be able to capture lots of different images at different aspect ratios and then choose the best one when editing. As always thanks for watching 😁👍
Great explanation of all of the aspect ratios, Mike. I agree that a printed panorama looks fantastic when printed and hung on a wall. I have a great shot of the city of Lisbon taken at an overlook on an evening where the light was just perfect. I have not printed it yet, but you may have just motivated me to do so. I know you have to be excited about 100K subscribers. Just 400 more to go. Maybe this week is the week that 999,999 other people will realize what I have known for a while. This is one of the best photography channels here on UA-cam. Have a great week, my friend.
Thanks so much dude!! It'll be well worth printing it... gotta love a bit of panorama action!! The 100,000 mark is getting closer!! 😀 As always, thanks for your kind words dude, much appreciated!! 👊
Great video dude! I rarely think about aspect ratios nowadays as an “internet photographer” indeed but I can see the benefit of panoramas for prints. Just look imposing to be put up in a frame.
Thanks so much Keith! Haha!! I think we are all internet photographers these days... it is well worth printing an image when you get a good one!! It really shows the quality of the cameras we have nowadays!! As always thanks for watching dude 😁👍
I really enjoyed this video, great explanation! Most of my work is shot at 1:1, 3:2 and 16.9 with panoramas way down on the list, primarily due to my love of woodland photography. Have a great weekend, Best Regards Barry
Thanks very much!! That is the Cader Idris mountain range in Mid Wales. The snowy scene you referenced is Llyn Cau: goo.gl/maps/Vn5VofTzAbpXRsF9A The pano at 5:25 is taken on the other side of this range. Definitely am amazing place to visit and a relatively quiet mountain compared to Snowdon. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@mikesphotography yep🙂 i got alot of photo’s recently of some ship’s and ferries and a big cruise ship in Oslo Wednesday this week! 😎 Sky Princess from Princess Cruises was in Oslo that day😍
Another great video, Mike. In Los Angeles now and jet lagged to death. Once, I saw something like a 12:1 panorama shot on a large format film camera that used I think rolled photo paper to develop. Just amazing! Here in LA you also get moral paintings on whole building of oceanscapes. Most famous is Wyland. Stay safe out there,
Oh man, I bet the jet-lag was pretty intense!! Wow 12:1 would have been huge!! I hope you have a great time over in LA... and I bet the weather over there is fantastic right now. As always thanks dude 😁👍
Thank you very much, Mike! Is this Cader Idris in snow? I hardly ever use the 3:2 ratio but like to crop to squares, 4:5 and panoramas usually. I love these ratios as well when it comes to abstracts (water, stones, rocks). Kind regards, Martin
Yes, that is a snow covered Cader Idris, taken back at the start of March this year, love that place so much!! Great to hear what aspect ratios you like! Thanks for watching 😁👍
Hi, would be good if sony put a 36x36mm sensor in a camera - no need to ever upend the camera for portraits, all the current lenses would cover it with the additional ability to chose full sensor square, just click between each format.
That would be fantastic, as well as lots of different aspect ratios in camera to choose from, to see the actual framing in the field. Thanks for watching Ian 😁👍
Another epic video Mike! Certainly got me inspired to think about panorama's. I always loved them, but rarely took the effort to building them. What is the papersize you use to cut out the panorama? I can print at largest A3 (13x19 inches) but I find it a bit small after cutting for a pano.
Thanks very much! That print was a 30cmx90cm (about 12x36 inches). The store I got it done at was able to feed a roll of paper through the back of the printer to get a much longer print than normal. I think if your printer has a flat feed door on the back of it, and the software can handle a panorama, then you should be able to do it with yours. Might be worth researching it to see if anyone else has printed panoramas from the model of printer you have. As always thanks for watching 😁👍
For the pano, I use the phones camera and then put it on the face and book as 360. It keeps the quality of the original photo and you can see what I saw 😊 sadly the camera can't do such in camera and work on the face and book 😕
First things first - time of posting issue solved😊🎉. Sporting of you to “let” Henry Turner post first, Mike. Thorough and thoughtful coverage of aspect ratio. Smartphone cameras also let us select from several ratios - primary use for social media pic protocols. My guess is that 16:9 would be most popular for landscapes insofar as folks think “wide” for the genre. Good point about shooting raw to keep options open after the shoot. I always shoot raw and then free-style crop to what I think is a pleasing composition, regardless of aspect ratio - prints can be custom matted, so I don’t fuss over dimensions (unless a 1X100 spaghetti portrait is my image😊). A more recent factor regarding image proportions might be AI autogenerate - fill in PS - expand top/sides/bottom of frame to get pleasing image and proportions - custom aspect ratio. (Yes, I gather you don’t approve of generative fill, Mike, but my guess is that it will become a norm. We make “images” after all.) Wasn’t 120 film a standard for old box cameras? Table cameo supplemented by bench this time - nice.😊 Your dog? Cheers!
Haha! I thought I'd posted 15 minutes earlier than him... 🤔😆 I think if cameras had an option for wider panos, they would be more popular. I wish my camera had a 3:1 ratio crop, even if it was just to see what it would look like in a final image. Shooting RAW does have a lot of advantages, some of which are less obvious than others. Adding sides to the image through AI would be interesting, although I doubt it would get it right... and you know there would be someone who would comment on it... 😆😆😆 ... well you know my thoughts on sky replacements, so generative fill would probably fall into the same category... 😃 As always thanks for watching Paul 😁👍
I’m with you, I very much enjoy panoramas also. On the other hand, I have noticed that Thomas Heaton will frequently use the 1:1 aspect ratio. His images tend to look pretty great too. And let us not forget triptychs, I really love them too. They tend to be closer to 3* 1:3 or maybe 3* 1:2. Maybe the subject and the artist’s eye, has much to do with which ratio is best for landscapes. Personally, I’ve pretty much given up and just go 16:9 because that’s the aspect ratio of the device I’m likely to view/share them on.
Great to hear your thoughts Jim. Tom does like the old 1:1 doesn't he. Maybe it's more cost effective when he shoots film 🤔😆 I find it a really interesting subject and it's great when you stumble across an aspect ratio that just works with a scene... Whether it's a 1:1 or a 5:1. Thanks for watching 😁👍
3:15 unless you have a Nikon camera, because for some idiotic reason Nikon saves the cropped version as the final image even when you are shooting raw. Definitely one of my biggest complaints about my camera
I just found this out today... That's crazy!! I thought a raw file was a complete readout from the sensor. With Sony, Panasonic and Canon, when you go into the crop mode in lightroom it'll give you the option of reverting to the full sensor readout no matter which aspect ratio you choose. Thanks for letting us know. 👍
I know it's not the same as a true pano sensor but the fuji and hassleblad MF bodies allow for a 65:24 in camera crop. As you said the experience is so much better seeing it in camera -vs- stitching so this is the route I'm taking.
Thanks so much for your kind words dude! Getting messages like this really motivates me to make more videos... and this is why I make them in the first place, to try to motivate others to get some great photos for themselves! As always thanks for watching and commenting, much appreciated 😁👍
Much of what we do now is given by social media and Instagram as well. So unfortunately they do not support this type of photography which is unfortunate. I have to admit myself even shooting panoramic out on site is a bit of a pain in the butt and them editing - stitching , and it doesn’t always work…. specially, taking shots over water in the four grand if you really can’t do it. Or something to the fence as well is often very difficult because it doesn’t line up properly. So my solution I purchased an 8 to 16 mm lens and 8 mm is 12 mm equivalent and what I do is I’ll take an 8 mm photo which is yes if you buy one, but when I get into editing I can actually stretch the image. It is a feature in light room where you can stretch and distort the image and little bit and then I crop it and I get the same affect essentially probably not as wide as what you’re shooting, but it is very very expensive and I can get enough of this shot. It’s a much simpler way of doing panoramic shot
That's a great way of approaching panoramics Nev... and with the high megapixel cameras we can get nowadays, this is very much a viable option. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts 😁👍
Good video explaining everything. Except for the fact that not all cameras keep the full size image in RAW format if you use a ratio other than the full/original. If you choose anything other than the original size with Nikon, they discard the rest of the image. So anyone who chooses say 1:1 in camera is stuck with it, even if you shoot RAW.
That's interesting... I thought in general, cameras saved all of the readout from the sensor in a raw file... That what I have found with Sony, Panasonic and Canon, so it is interesting that Nikon don't do this. Thanks for letting us know.
Have you thought about experimenting with an Anamorphic lens to take pano photos? You could get the benefits of using all your sensor and desqueezing to get a wider image. I'm guessing that you could not stitch several shots like you could with an spherical lens, but I've not tried. My anamorphic lens is sitting unloved in my Lens Box for the day I feel brave to try another video project.
Hey Frank, I have but it's the added expense of more kit... 😆🙈 Sirui have offered to send me some lenses, but I am really reluctant to get free kit as they tend to come with a lot of demands... companies seem to think as soon as they send you kit that they own you! 😆😆 Maybe one day, I'll be able to afford one. 🤔 As always thanks for watching 😁👍
@@mikesphotography Genuine offer, you are welcome to borrow/test my Siuri 50mm. Its sitting in a box at home because I'm too scared to use it. So far I have only done one episode/project and have no plans to experiment at the moment. BTW I am attempting my first ever try at a Holy Grail time-lapse of the moon rising tomorrow. I'd appreciate a bit of advice.
@@frankinblackpool thanks for the offer. With the holy grail, there are two ways to do it. Set one setting to change automatically and then hope there aren't too many big jumps with the changes, or do it manually and change the settings to keep the exposure good. The first one sometimes works with a bit of editing, the second one will require extra editing in a program called LRtimelapse which will iron out the exposure changes. I hope that helps 😁👍
@@mikesphotography Well I've had a go with my first Day to Night time lapse and discovered one important thing. During June, it does not get dark. Doh! However I am quite please with how it came out. I edited it in Resolve and on this occasion did not need to use the deflickr effect as the images exposed quite well. I'd be honoured if you took a little peek at it.
I tend to go through phases with aspect ratios. A few years ago I liked 16:9, then it was 4:5, now it's more 4:3 and square. Probably not something that would work all that often but I'd like to try some vertical panos like in those Japanese or Chinese paintings.
Thanks for sharing what you like to do. It is amazing how in photography there are definite phases we all go through from time to time. It is a very organic process isn't it. Thanks for watching 😁👍
The back feed printers that use roll paper do. I think there are a few videos on here showing how that works if you search for printing panoramas, you should find some good ones. 👍
I don't have that printer so I am not sure what to suggest. I would probably do smaller prints on A5 paper, and then just scale it up once I found one that works.
The sensor aspect ratio for quadrilateral shapes isn't that important because the projection from the lens is spherical, and forms a circle on a 2D plane (you can distort this projection with anamorphic lenses for a wider view) . Making a wide angle sensor would usually mean throwing away the top and bottom of the image unless you change the lens projection in some way. But cropping is simple to do in post, or automatically with Jpeg settings. The best aspect ratio for a sensor to capture most of the projection would be 1:1 or a square. Or better yet a circular sensor. The idea of circular images, prints and even screen and software interests me. I feel like we live in a regular shaped world because of convention, stemming limitations in technology from a time gone by. If you want film on a roll, it makes a lot of sense to have 4 sides to your image. But a digital sensor doesn't have to be that way. But I do love a Pano too!
Haha! They are out there, it's just a case of shooting them enough so you start to see them. I have to admit, I have shot a lot of bad ones to get some good ones! As always, thanks for watching Armin 😁👍
Is there an industry accepted standard for a panorama print? I only ask as surely without this it would create too many variables when trying to buy a frame and mount off the shelf 🤷♂. I do like a good panorama but of the few I've taken (using pano stitch in Affinity) I'm pretty sure none would fit into a standard pano frame - if such a thing exists. I'll have to check Affinity and Capture One to see if they can produce a single pano ratio that can be applied to any amount of multi-shot images. A really interesting look at image ratios 🙌😊
I like the panoramic pictures but don't intend to buy my own printer and framing work area. I haven't had so much success finding low cost professional printers and frames.
It's good that we all have a different opinion and different things we like. Personally I do not like panorama photos. Not at all. They all look wrong to me. It's not what the world looks like. Anyway that's just me. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
No worries at all Ralf. This is what makes us all unique, if we all thought the same, it would be a very boring world. Out of interest, what do you prefer when it comes to aspect ratios? Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@mikesphotography mainly the standard screen ration 3:2 or 4:3. I have tried a few 16:9. My problem is that I have been a software developer for over 40 years and my brain is just used to seeing 4:3😁😁
Haha!! Good question... I have one when explaining handheld stuff and then two when showing stuff from a tripod. ... However, whenever I make a mistake in the script, I change the angle to keep mixing things up. 😁👍
F64? 😳 I can only do F22 😅 I started to shoot 16:9 for landscape, instead of standard 😊 but I don't think I've seen much 1:1 anywhere but post production 🤔
Haha! I know!! It is expensive, but it will be worth it... is what I keep telling myself. At least the camera looks old, so my wife probably won't question it!! 😆😆😆
I understand you are trying to cover the basics, but did you really need to spend so much time explaining what an aspect ratio is? The guts of the video that addresses the title of the video starts at 4:39 (more than halfway into the video), and the video from that point onwards has some useful info.
Obviously you are a little more advanced than some photographers that are just starting out. I just went into the detail of what aspect ratio is so that beginners have a much more rounded knowledge of this subject, before talking about the aspect ratio that doesn't do too well. Thanks for your feedback Edmund, I'll try to do better next time. 👍
I don't give a flying F about aspect ratio - if I think a certain aspect ratio is suitable for my photo then that is what I will upload or present. Know the rules, then break them!!
Our eyes photographic cameras TV video all lenses see the world as a sphere. Why do we take a square or rectangle out of that image leaving soft corners and delete a large part of the top sides and bottom of the image? What idiot went against nature and formatted this? Because it is not the way we or all other living creatures see. Let's bring back the sphere and see more of the image as our eyes do. Someone said it was because picture frame makers and builders in the past found it too difficult to make round picture frames and windows. So we as humans became addicted to the rectangle. It has become a custom to put a square peg into a round hole. It's not a good fit.
It probably has something to do with pinhole cameras, a bit like the box brownie, projecting on to the back walls of those boxes, as well as the efficiency of a rectangle on a roll of film... imagine how much waste you'd have if you could only print a circle onto a film strip. 🤔
If you're talking photos, and you even consider the restrictions of things like a phone screen or computer screen, then it's hard to take the photo seriously. If it's worth taking, it's worth printing and at that point you control the viewing circumstance.
No matter if it is a screen or a print as a photographer you do consider the final shape of the photograph. I'm all for printing and that was the whole idea of this video ... To try to encourage more people to print their images instead of letting them get digitally buried on a lost harddrive. Thanks for watching James 👍
@@mikesphotography I try to operate on the assumption that it doesn't exist as a photo until it's printed (40cmx60cm nominal as the basic). It makes you look a lot more and be more critical, the cost of printing and mounting being what it is, and sometimes it's hard to hold to that, but why I shoot is to try to take a photo first, makes me stop and have an interaction with it over time, how it reflects into my life and second, the same thing for someone else. That's really hard to do with a transient image.
I must admit, I'm starting to binge on your videos. As some may have mentioned before, you really know how to explain and make the videos so engaging! Thank you Mike! Plus I know how much work goes into these and the logistics around it.
Thanks so much for your kind words. It does take a lot to make these but I really enjoy the challenge.
... And binge watching is always welcome here!! 😆😁
Thanks so much for watching and commenting, much appreciated 👍
You and me both! I've learnt more from Mike in the past few weeks since discovering the channel than in the past few years!
Videos like this are why I keep coming back to this channel. The message that is delivered is always very clear and concise.
Thanks so much!!
And thanks for watching 😁👍
I just discovered your channel today and I love it so much. Your explanations are very clear and captivating. Your editing is also perfect with all those transitions. And of course the quality of the contente... Amazing job!
Thanks so much for your kind words Rico! I do spend a lot of time writing and planning my videos so it is great to hear they are helping!! I have so many videos on my channel so make sure you check them out... and if anything is missing, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Thanks for watching and welcome to my channel. 😁👍
This video just showed up on my feed and loved your style and subscribed. Love pano's.
So, to answer your question, the Hasselblad X2D with the firmware update lets you choose the crop factor of the old Hasselblad X-Pan film camera. I believe the new one released today (907x with the new 100mp back) can also do the X-Pan panoramic format, as the older 50mp back with the firmware update allowed for the X-Pan Crop.
A lot of my photos lately that have the right composition I crop square if I can and Red River has a metallic coated paper and they do have a 12x12 paper as well as the 13x38 & 8.5x25. Black & White and Infrared photos look incredible on this metallic coated paper.
Cheers!
Mike, I came to this video wondering why a great photographer/UA-camr as yourself would spend 7:32 on this particular topic when it has been done excessively and boringly already. I should have known- IMHO, it has never been done this well and this interestingly. Your points (and analysis) flowed across the subject from beginning to end with one enlightenment after another. I was mesmerized. This one is a keeper. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much for your kind words Jer.
It was a tricky one to do, without being boring, and great to hear I kept you mesmerised throughout! 😁👍
This gets me so stoked to make more like this as well.
Thanks for watching 👍👍
Dear Mike, I thoroughly enjoy your videos and learn so much from them. Happy holidays. May your new year be filled with potential and adventures. With sincere best wishes.
Thank you Mike. I like panoramas too and did quite a few of them lately. I usually make them as wide as the scenery allows me and then in post processing I can select the sections that looks best. I prefer coming home with too many shot over not having enough.
Exactly! With the low cost of storage, it's fantastic to be able to capture lots of different images at different aspect ratios and then choose the best one when editing.
As always thanks for watching 😁👍
Thanks so much Mike for always sharing the best content and valuable information, keep up with the awesome content 👍🤗
No worries Miguel... and as always, thank you for your kind words! 😁👍
Great video Mike thanks for all the help you give to people 🙏❤️
No worries Rowan, thanks so much for watching 😁👍
that Nick Carver video is top notch on landscape composition. good for you for mentioning him
Nick is a fantastic photographer! Love his work and in that video, he gives so much valuable information!!
Thanks for watching Alex 😁👍
Great explanation of all of the aspect ratios, Mike. I agree that a printed panorama looks fantastic when printed and hung on a wall. I have a great shot of the city of Lisbon taken at an overlook on an evening where the light was just perfect. I have not printed it yet, but you may have just motivated me to do so. I know you have to be excited about 100K subscribers. Just 400 more to go. Maybe this week is the week that 999,999 other people will realize what I have known for a while. This is one of the best photography channels here on UA-cam. Have a great week, my friend.
Thanks so much dude!! It'll be well worth printing it... gotta love a bit of panorama action!!
The 100,000 mark is getting closer!! 😀
As always, thanks for your kind words dude, much appreciated!! 👊
I love my land and seascapes, have got 3 on my wall, many thanks for explaining the ratio aspects
Great to hear Robert!
Thanks for watching 😁👍
Tilt your phone and panoramas look great.
I always have my phone camera set to 9:22 fills up a phone screen very nice. :)
Great video dude! I rarely think about aspect ratios nowadays as an “internet photographer” indeed but I can see the benefit of panoramas for prints. Just look imposing to be put up in a frame.
Thanks so much Keith! Haha!! I think we are all internet photographers these days... it is well worth printing an image when you get a good one!! It really shows the quality of the cameras we have nowadays!!
As always thanks for watching dude 😁👍
Always great lessons! Outstanding communicator.
Thanks so much Mark! 😁👍
Awesome explanation and visuals. Thanks a bunch man!! ✌️
No worries, great to hear you liked it.
Thanks for watching 😁👍
I really enjoyed this video, great explanation! Most of my work is shot at 1:1, 3:2 and 16.9 with panoramas way down on the list, primarily due to my love of woodland photography. Have a great weekend, Best Regards Barry
Great to hear you liked it, and also great to hear what aspect ratios you prefer to shoot with.
As always thanks for watching Barry 😁👍
Perfect explanation of the subject! I would love to know the location of some of these shots - particularly the one @4:59 :-)
Thanks very much!! That is the Cader Idris mountain range in Mid Wales. The snowy scene you referenced is Llyn Cau: goo.gl/maps/Vn5VofTzAbpXRsF9A
The pano at 5:25 is taken on the other side of this range.
Definitely am amazing place to visit and a relatively quiet mountain compared to Snowdon.
Thanks for watching 😁👍
I rarely take landscape oriented photo’s😅 but when i do, i make sure i get everything i want into the frame. Nice video Mike😊
That's all good! As long as you get it all in, that's the main thing 😁👍
@@mikesphotography yep🙂 i got alot of photo’s recently of some ship’s and ferries and a big cruise ship in Oslo Wednesday this week! 😎 Sky Princess from Princess Cruises was in Oslo that day😍
Another great video, Mike. In Los Angeles now and jet lagged to death. Once, I saw something like a 12:1 panorama shot on a large format film camera that used I think rolled photo paper to develop. Just amazing! Here in LA you also get moral paintings on whole building of oceanscapes. Most famous is Wyland. Stay safe out there,
Oh man, I bet the jet-lag was pretty intense!!
Wow 12:1 would have been huge!!
I hope you have a great time over in LA... and I bet the weather over there is fantastic right now.
As always thanks dude 😁👍
Thank you very much, Mike! Is this Cader Idris in snow? I hardly ever use the 3:2 ratio but like to crop to squares, 4:5 and panoramas usually. I love these ratios as well when it comes to abstracts (water, stones, rocks). Kind regards, Martin
Yes, that is a snow covered Cader Idris, taken back at the start of March this year, love that place so much!!
Great to hear what aspect ratios you like!
Thanks for watching 😁👍
Thanks Mike !
And thank you for watching Mohamed! 😁👍
Hi, would be good if sony put a 36x36mm sensor in a camera - no need to ever upend the camera for portraits, all the current lenses would cover it with the additional ability to chose full sensor square, just click between each format.
That would be fantastic, as well as lots of different aspect ratios in camera to choose from, to see the actual framing in the field.
Thanks for watching Ian 😁👍
Another epic video Mike!
Certainly got me inspired to think about panorama's. I always loved them, but rarely took the effort to building them.
What is the papersize you use to cut out the panorama?
I can print at largest A3 (13x19 inches) but I find it a bit small after cutting for a pano.
Thanks very much!
That print was a 30cmx90cm (about 12x36 inches). The store I got it done at was able to feed a roll of paper through the back of the printer to get a much longer print than normal.
I think if your printer has a flat feed door on the back of it, and the software can handle a panorama, then you should be able to do it with yours. Might be worth researching it to see if anyone else has printed panoramas from the model of printer you have.
As always thanks for watching 😁👍
@@mikesphotography Great suggestions, will research it.
Cheers!
I love to print my photos so this is imperative to understand.
Another good video Mike
Thanks very much Lyn! 😁👍
For the pano, I use the phones camera and then put it on the face and book as 360. It keeps the quality of the original photo and you can see what I saw 😊 sadly the camera can't do such in camera and work on the face and book 😕
In short, a great video, thank you
First things first - time of posting issue solved😊🎉. Sporting of you to “let” Henry Turner post first, Mike. Thorough and thoughtful coverage of aspect ratio. Smartphone cameras also let us select from several ratios - primary use for social media pic protocols.
My guess is that 16:9 would be most popular for landscapes insofar as folks think “wide” for the genre.
Good point about shooting raw to keep options open after the shoot. I always shoot raw and then free-style crop to what I think is a pleasing composition, regardless of aspect ratio - prints can be custom matted, so I don’t fuss over dimensions (unless a 1X100 spaghetti portrait is my image😊).
A more recent factor regarding image proportions might be AI autogenerate - fill in PS - expand top/sides/bottom of frame to get pleasing image and proportions - custom aspect ratio. (Yes, I gather you don’t approve of generative fill, Mike, but my guess is that it will become a norm. We make “images” after all.)
Wasn’t 120 film a standard for old box cameras?
Table cameo supplemented by bench this time - nice.😊 Your dog? Cheers!
Haha! I thought I'd posted 15 minutes earlier than him... 🤔😆
I think if cameras had an option for wider panos, they would be more popular. I wish my camera had a 3:1 ratio crop, even if it was just to see what it would look like in a final image.
Shooting RAW does have a lot of advantages, some of which are less obvious than others.
Adding sides to the image through AI would be interesting, although I doubt it would get it right... and you know there would be someone who would comment on it... 😆😆😆
... well you know my thoughts on sky replacements, so generative fill would probably fall into the same category... 😃
As always thanks for watching Paul 😁👍
Very informative. Thank you.
Thanks so much Greg!
Ótimo vídeo! Já curti e me inscrevi! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Fuji GX cameras have a crop mode of 3x1. So people use it as they like seeing in that ratio when they are framing their images.
That's good to know, thanks for sharing... I best get saving for a new camera... 🤔
Thanks for watching 😁👍
I’m with you, I very much enjoy panoramas also. On the other hand, I have noticed that Thomas Heaton will frequently use the 1:1 aspect ratio. His images tend to look pretty great too. And let us not forget triptychs, I really love them too. They tend to be closer to 3* 1:3 or maybe 3* 1:2. Maybe the subject and the artist’s eye, has much to do with which ratio is best for landscapes. Personally, I’ve pretty much given up and just go 16:9 because that’s the aspect ratio of the device I’m likely to view/share them on.
Great to hear your thoughts Jim.
Tom does like the old 1:1 doesn't he. Maybe it's more cost effective when he shoots film 🤔😆
I find it a really interesting subject and it's great when you stumble across an aspect ratio that just works with a scene... Whether it's a 1:1 or a 5:1.
Thanks for watching 😁👍
Some of my favorite images are big, 3x1 panoramas. Great dive into the topic Mike - really appreciate it!
Thanks so much for your kind words Matt... It's great when you get a good one isn't it!
Thanks for watching 😁👍
@@mikesphotography Most definitely - always appreciate your content and insights Mike!
3:15 unless you have a Nikon camera, because for some idiotic reason Nikon saves the cropped version as the final image even when you are shooting raw. Definitely one of my biggest complaints about my camera
I just found this out today... That's crazy!! I thought a raw file was a complete readout from the sensor.
With Sony, Panasonic and Canon, when you go into the crop mode in lightroom it'll give you the option of reverting to the full sensor readout no matter which aspect ratio you choose.
Thanks for letting us know. 👍
I know it's not the same as a true pano sensor but the fuji and hassleblad MF bodies allow for a 65:24 in camera crop. As you said the experience is so much better seeing it in camera -vs- stitching so this is the route I'm taking.
That really makes me want to get a Fuji ... Maybe one day... 🤔
Thanks for sharing that info Ben, much appreciated. 😁👍
Very well explained.
Ok I'm not blowing smoke here by Mike has the best videos on You Tube. I have spend hundreds of hours honing my craft watching these videos.
Thanks so much for your kind words dude! Getting messages like this really motivates me to make more videos... and this is why I make them in the first place, to try to motivate others to get some great photos for themselves!
As always thanks for watching and commenting, much appreciated 😁👍
I use to love the oversized multi aspect sensor in the Panasonic GH2.
Ah yes, the good old GH2!! I had a couple of those back in the day, such a great camera... way ahead of it's time!!
Thanks for watching Andy 😁👍
It certainly was. 😀
I agree. It’s really frustrating when I have a really good pano to post.
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Much of what we do now is given by social media and Instagram as well. So unfortunately they do not support this type of photography which is unfortunate. I have to admit myself even shooting panoramic out on site is a bit of a pain in the butt and them editing - stitching , and it doesn’t always work…. specially, taking shots over water in the four grand if you really can’t do it. Or something to the fence as well is often very difficult because it doesn’t line up properly. So my solution I purchased an 8 to 16 mm lens and 8 mm is 12 mm equivalent and what I do is I’ll take an 8 mm photo which is yes if you buy one, but when I get into editing I can actually stretch the image. It is a feature in light room where you can stretch and distort the image and little bit and then I crop it and I get the same affect essentially probably not as wide as what you’re shooting, but it is very very expensive and I can get enough of this shot. It’s a much simpler way of doing panoramic shot
That's a great way of approaching panoramics Nev... and with the high megapixel cameras we can get nowadays, this is very much a viable option.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts 😁👍
@@mikesphotography thanks Mike I really enjoy your videos I'm mainly a Seascape shooter and panoramics are difficult over the ocean
Good video explaining everything. Except for the fact that not all cameras keep the full size image in RAW format if you use a ratio other than the full/original. If you choose anything other than the original size with Nikon, they discard the rest of the image. So anyone who chooses say 1:1 in camera is stuck with it, even if you shoot RAW.
That's interesting... I thought in general, cameras saved all of the readout from the sensor in a raw file... That what I have found with Sony, Panasonic and Canon, so it is interesting that Nikon don't do this.
Thanks for letting us know.
Have you thought about experimenting with an Anamorphic lens to take pano photos?
You could get the benefits of using all your sensor and desqueezing to get a wider image. I'm guessing that you could not stitch several shots like you could with an spherical lens, but I've not tried.
My anamorphic lens is sitting unloved in my Lens Box for the day I feel brave to try another video project.
Hey Frank,
I have but it's the added expense of more kit... 😆🙈
Sirui have offered to send me some lenses, but I am really reluctant to get free kit as they tend to come with a lot of demands... companies seem to think as soon as they send you kit that they own you! 😆😆
Maybe one day, I'll be able to afford one. 🤔
As always thanks for watching 😁👍
@@mikesphotography Genuine offer, you are welcome to borrow/test my Siuri 50mm.
Its sitting in a box at home because I'm too scared to use it. So far I have only done one episode/project and have no plans to experiment at the moment.
BTW
I am attempting my first ever try at a Holy Grail time-lapse of the moon rising tomorrow. I'd appreciate a bit of advice.
@@frankinblackpool thanks for the offer.
With the holy grail, there are two ways to do it. Set one setting to change automatically and then hope there aren't too many big jumps with the changes, or do it manually and change the settings to keep the exposure good.
The first one sometimes works with a bit of editing, the second one will require extra editing in a program called LRtimelapse which will iron out the exposure changes.
I hope that helps 😁👍
@@mikesphotography Well I've had a go with my first Day to Night time lapse and discovered one important thing. During June, it does not get dark. Doh!
However I am quite please with how it came out. I edited it in Resolve and on this occasion did not need to use the deflickr effect as the images exposed quite well. I'd be honoured if you took a little peek at it.
I wish manufacturers would put more options for RAW crop previews. Fuji I think even have a 65:24 but this is missing on Sony.
I completely agree! I'd love it if I had a 3:1 and a 4:1 crop option.
It's great that Fuji have that option!
Thanks for watching 😁👍
I tend to go through phases with aspect ratios. A few years ago I liked 16:9, then it was 4:5, now it's more 4:3 and square. Probably not something that would work all that often but I'd like to try some vertical panos like in those Japanese or Chinese paintings.
Thanks for sharing what you like to do. It is amazing how in photography there are definite phases we all go through from time to time. It is a very organic process isn't it.
Thanks for watching 😁👍
There is the Seitz 6x17 camera which is digital and the ratio that you want
Thanks for the tip, I'll have to check that one out. 😁👍
... just googled it ... Lol ... I might be saving for a while to get that one. 😆🤦🏻♂️
Do any online printers offer the 65:24 print?
The back feed printers that use roll paper do.
I think there are a few videos on here showing how that works if you search for printing panoramas, you should find some good ones. 👍
Hi Mike Just started printing on a canon pro300 , however struggling to find the right aspect ratio for A3 , or am I miles away. Cheers Malcolm
I don't have that printer so I am not sure what to suggest. I would probably do smaller prints on A5 paper, and then just scale it up once I found one that works.
The sensor aspect ratio for quadrilateral shapes isn't that important because the projection from the lens is spherical, and forms a circle on a 2D plane (you can distort this projection with anamorphic lenses for a wider view) . Making a wide angle sensor would usually mean throwing away the top and bottom of the image unless you change the lens projection in some way. But cropping is simple to do in post, or automatically with Jpeg settings. The best aspect ratio for a sensor to capture most of the projection would be 1:1 or a square. Or better yet a circular sensor. The idea of circular images, prints and even screen and software interests me. I feel like we live in a regular shaped world because of convention, stemming limitations in technology from a time gone by. If you want film on a roll, it makes a lot of sense to have 4 sides to your image. But a digital sensor doesn't have to be that way. But I do love a Pano too!
Great Video, now I have to go out and find a panorama to shoot 😀
Haha! They are out there, it's just a case of shooting them enough so you start to see them.
I have to admit, I have shot a lot of bad ones to get some good ones!
As always, thanks for watching Armin 😁👍
Hello Mike and thank you from Milton Keynes
Are you related to the late Quentin Keynes?
No worries Dariush!
Chad... Lol 😅
@@mikesphotography I knew him, I thought with that name you may be related.
Is there an industry accepted standard for a panorama print? I only ask as surely without this it would create too many variables when trying to buy a frame and mount off the shelf 🤷♂. I do like a good panorama but of the few I've taken (using pano stitch in Affinity) I'm pretty sure none would fit into a standard pano frame - if such a thing exists. I'll have to check Affinity and Capture One to see if they can produce a single pano ratio that can be applied to any amount of multi-shot images. A really interesting look at image ratios 🙌😊
I like the panoramic pictures but don't intend to buy my own printer and framing work area. I haven't had so much success finding low cost professional printers and frames.
use anamorphic lens on a 3:2/17:9/16:9 sensor ;)
Ah yes, I'd love to get some anamorphic lenses!
Thanks for watching 😁👍
It's good that we all have a different opinion and different things we like. Personally I do not like panorama photos. Not at all. They all look wrong to me. It's not what the world looks like. Anyway that's just me. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
No worries at all Ralf. This is what makes us all unique, if we all thought the same, it would be a very boring world.
Out of interest, what do you prefer when it comes to aspect ratios?
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@@mikesphotography mainly the standard screen ration 3:2 or 4:3. I have tried a few 16:9. My problem is that I have been a software developer for over 40 years and my brain is just used to seeing 4:3😁😁
Get yourself an ultrawide monitor so you can have a 7:3 ratio which doesn't help with how images look in videos but does much better than the 16:9.
Hi David,
I used to have one but it started playing up and is currently in the Huawei factory being fixed.
Thanks for watching 😁👍
How many tripods do you have set up at any one time when youre explaining things?!? 😅
Haha!! Good question... I have one when explaining handheld stuff and then two when showing stuff from a tripod.
... However, whenever I make a mistake in the script, I change the angle to keep mixing things up. 😁👍
@@mikesphotography very cool
Appreciate all the time and effort you put into these! :)
F64? 😳 I can only do F22 😅 I started to shoot 16:9 for landscape, instead of standard 😊 but I don't think I've seen much 1:1 anywhere but post production 🤔
Haha! I always like to see who's paying attention to the finer details!! 😆
As always thanks for watching 😁👍
4:3 is my favorite aspect ratio for photos .
16:9 for videos.
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I want a Fuji 6x17 so bad. Going to go bankrupt with 120 film
Haha! I know!! It is expensive, but it will be worth it... is what I keep telling myself. At least the camera looks old, so my wife probably won't question it!! 😆😆😆
@@mikesphotography easier to ask for forgiveness at that point
16*10
65:24
Before they call I will answer; while they are still speaking I will hear. 👍
3:1 is the AR not favored.
... by you...
@@mikesphotography You asked the question at the beginning, right?
@@MMPAspergerian Ah yes, I must have woken up on the wrong side of the bed. Sorry dude... 😆🤦🏻♂
I understand you are trying to cover the basics, but did you really need to spend so much time explaining what an aspect ratio is? The guts of the video that addresses the title of the video starts at 4:39 (more than halfway into the video), and the video from that point onwards has some useful info.
Obviously you are a little more advanced than some photographers that are just starting out.
I just went into the detail of what aspect ratio is so that beginners have a much more rounded knowledge of this subject, before talking about the aspect ratio that doesn't do too well.
Thanks for your feedback Edmund, I'll try to do better next time. 👍
I don't give a flying F about aspect ratio - if I think a certain aspect ratio is suitable for my photo then that is what I will upload or present.
Know the rules, then break them!!
Thanks for your thoughts Jonas. 👍
Our eyes photographic cameras TV video all lenses see the world as a sphere. Why do we take a square or rectangle out of that image leaving soft corners and delete a large part of the top sides and bottom of the image? What idiot went against nature and formatted this?
Because it is not the way we or all other living creatures see.
Let's bring back the sphere and see more of the image as our eyes do.
Someone said it was because picture frame makers and builders in the past found it too difficult to make round picture frames and windows.
So we as humans became addicted to the rectangle. It has become a custom to put a square peg into a round hole. It's not a good fit.
It probably has something to do with pinhole cameras, a bit like the box brownie, projecting on to the back walls of those boxes, as well as the efficiency of a rectangle on a roll of film... imagine how much waste you'd have if you could only print a circle onto a film strip. 🤔
@@mikesphotography I agree it would be hard to have round images but it was possibly set back in time with widows and paintings.
If you're talking photos, and you even consider the restrictions of things like a phone screen or computer screen, then it's hard to take the photo seriously. If it's worth taking, it's worth printing and at that point you control the viewing circumstance.
No matter if it is a screen or a print as a photographer you do consider the final shape of the photograph. I'm all for printing and that was the whole idea of this video ... To try to encourage more people to print their images instead of letting them get digitally buried on a lost harddrive.
Thanks for watching James 👍
@@mikesphotography I try to operate on the assumption that it doesn't exist as a photo until it's printed (40cmx60cm nominal as the basic). It makes you look a lot more and be more critical, the cost of printing and mounting being what it is, and sometimes it's hard to hold to that, but why I shoot is to try to take a photo first, makes me stop and have an interaction with it over time, how it reflects into my life and second, the same thing for someone else. That's really hard to do with a transient image.