Are our colleges leaving our kids ill-prepared?

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024

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  • @smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724
    @smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 6 років тому +44

    Our High Schools are leaving our kids *ill prepared*. Let's talk about that first.

    • @slofool
      @slofool 6 років тому +5

      I don't think its the school. I think its the students. we have too many who don't care and whats worse is we have parents who don't give a shit either.

    • @kevincharmasson
      @kevincharmasson 6 років тому +3

      IT IS THE SCHOOLS. As an education lobbyist and nontraditional student, it is the far worse than the news reports.

    • @aristotelian3098
      @aristotelian3098 6 років тому +1

      Small Town Girl Big City Heart The 'answer' I think will be complicated, for it's more than just the students.
      There is no doubt that the students are partially to blame, but students have always been to 'blame,' for that's the nature of the adolescent mind. Kids often (not always, of course) simply do not have the experience to understand the need for hard academic work and will escape it if they can, so of course they try in every way they can the game that they play with authority (as one bright, 'good' high school student said, 'If you make an adult angry, you've won.').
      Others:
      The Department of Education for continuing to fund idiocy on university campus, setting the 'culture' for idiocy in high school.
      The DoE for encouraging a short-sighted Common Core curriculum that emphasizes math and nonfiction (of themselves good subjects) at the expense of nonfiction, which teaches how to think (as long as it's serious fiction and not something like that excecrable _Pillars of the Earth_ so popular in high schools some years ago). We need both fiction and nonfiction. The 'Great Books' curriculum is crucial to a good education.
      Parents for demanding that 'someone do something' about their child's education and not paying attention to it themselves.
      Lawyers for feeding the 'if my kid doesn't do well, I will sue' reaction in America, which has administrators terrified, which leads to grade inflation in high school and students unprepared for college.
      Administrators who run scared from parents and lawyers and say they want academic rigor, but if a student doesn't pass, it's the teacher's fault. If a parent is unhappy, it's the teacher's fault (not everybody does this, but it's too common).
      And sometimes teachers who, knowing that their work is no longer respected in America while being pressured to keep too many records, give individualized education to 25-30 students at once in every class, and always do 'one more thing' by the different departments in the school, run an extracurricular club, and have no remedy for spending their entire academic year sleep-deprived, give up while still in teaching, and just keep their heads down, counting the days to retirement.
      Complicated. And a mess.

    • @ayayanable
      @ayayanable 6 років тому +2

      Well said Aristo. The only thing I'd add is classroom management and student behavior. Teachers are ill prepared where classroom management is concerned and even those who do a decent job often have little support from administrators.
      School administrators often try to keep their discipline #'s down so their district administrators get 'good' reports.
      There is so much more to discuss where classroom management an student behavior are concerned. I just wanted to add those points to your well written comment.

    • @miguelbermudez5426
      @miguelbermudez5426 5 років тому +1

      I agree. I hated high school and felt like i learned absolutely nothing at all. I even cheated my way to a diploma, they knew that I had cheated, and STILL they didn't care. Looking back, this shows the corruption of our school system and how they don't care about students, just funding for the next year.

  • @Asaeni
    @Asaeni 6 років тому +10

    College is making it way too easy to cheat on tests, quizzes, and homework because a lot of that stuff is online now. And with all that online, its easy to google the questions and most of the time there is answers to the question via quizlet, chegg, etc.

    • @fahad7148
      @fahad7148 2 роки тому

      Lucky people. In the UK we sit exams that account for our whole grade

  • @ginganinja411
    @ginganinja411 6 років тому +15

    ...is college worth it? I’d say about half yes, half no. Some majors in college should be abolished... why pay $50k a year to be a teacher?

    • @9to5techs
      @9to5techs 6 років тому +1

      Ryan Berube if I am going to college to be a high school teacher in texas you would not recommend it. But what if I get my 4 year degree for free without debt. Would you recommend it or no. What is a good major to get for 4 years of education.

    • @walsh9354
      @walsh9354 6 років тому +1

      Ryan Berube the average trucker a 4 week class gets paid more then the average high school teacher and their 4 year degree
      Teaching was never suppose to be high paying but that’s one of many examples

    • @walsh9354
      @walsh9354 6 років тому

      R H depends what job
      Again my teacher example there’s an excess of teachers
      It’s hard for them to find work
      Truckers tho there’s a need across America, companies are paying more to compete for drivers
      It depends on the supply and demand for the field you are entering

    • @patriotamerican3069
      @patriotamerican3069 6 років тому

      @ R.H, go to a vocation school an d you will be fine.

    • @bensimmons6149
      @bensimmons6149 4 роки тому

      Dylan Walsh driving trucks will be automated soon probably

  • @Boomer5150
    @Boomer5150 6 років тому +18

    It’s not the college that makes a student ill prepared for life,it’s the kind of education the student seeks. A degree in rainbows and unicorns doesn’t translate into a successful career.

    • @shawnsimmons1308
      @shawnsimmons1308 6 років тому +1

      Boomer5150...Exactly!! I had an old friend who wanted to be a biologist, but couldn't let go of the religious indoctrination from his childhood. He rebelled by answering questions with, "God did it", and "If it's not in the Word of God, then it's not true." He flunked out and now works as an assistant manager of a Taco Bell.

    • @heynowron3707
      @heynowron3707 6 років тому

      Shawn Simmons
      But taco bell is open on Sundays. Chic fil a wasn't hiring?

    • @9to5techs
      @9to5techs 6 років тому

      if I am going to college to be a high school teacher in texas you would not recommend it. But what if I get my 4 year degree for free without debt. Would you recommend it or no. What is a good major to get for 4 years of education.

  • @gn0m0n
    @gn0m0n 6 років тому +10

    I am a grateful St. John's alum. They sent an email commenting on this appearance, which I think expands on an important conversation. Excerpts below. I encourage everyone to read them before coming to any conclusions.
    "Greetings Alumni and Friends of St. John’s -
    We’ve received feedback from alumni and friends with many different views on Mark Roosevelt's appearance on tonight's Tucker Carlson program. Many support this opportunity for St. John’s to communicate its message, and many are disappointed that we would appear on Fox News. All of the feedback is valued.
    It’s important for us to share that Tucker Carlson Tonight approached us; we were invited to be on this show, and we are not cowards. We are proud of our ability to have hard conversations and do it with civility. This is what makes St. John’s strong.
    We said we would appear only if we could speak about a topic vital to St. John’s - the value of civil discourse on campus and the importance of being open to different viewpoints as the antidote to the polarization of America. They agreed and we hope that this agreement will be observed.
    Going on Tucker Carlson does not mean we endorse his ideas. St. John’s has a strong sense of what it stands for and that is unyielding. And Mark Roosevelt is an individual with an equally strong sense of his own belief system. Appearing on Tucker Carlson does not change any of that. If anything, our mission is to transform those who may have truly extreme views and to foster productive dialogue: the same way we have done for so many Johnnies since the advent of the Program. We do not know how much we can accomplish in five minutes, but we will try.
    We believe that our country needs this conversation now more than ever, as the nation is losing its way on civil discourse. We believe that the Program tempers extremism, and the Socratic process weeds out the weakest ideas. We need to believe in that, trust in that, and share that message with others. How many friends and colleagues have we seen transformed for the better by our college?
    Open dialogue and engaging with hard questions are deeply held values of St. John’s College. We are proud of our openness to different ideas and points of view. Going on Tucker Carlson does not define St. John’s College. We are about the Program and the conversation, which is best with diverse points of view at the table. It is, after all, what our American democracy is all about."
    I love that place.

    • @LiteralSloth
      @LiteralSloth 4 роки тому

      Current student at Santa Fe! Wonderful school, Mr. Roosevelt is great.

  • @jaybird7534
    @jaybird7534 6 років тому +5

    College professors are now the new junior high school teachers, some emotionally kindergarten level....just look at Bill Ayres.

  • @homewall744
    @homewall744 6 років тому +6

    More like K-12 is failing us.

  • @redshot1015
    @redshot1015 6 років тому +5

    100% fact!!! I know people with masters degree in computer programming and various of other Non medical degrees sitting at home, not finding jobs!!

    • @marseillesvieux2987
      @marseillesvieux2987 6 років тому

      RedShot101 that is for the hopeless and the hopeful start up the next Amazon.

    • @britbritcritict2512
      @britbritcritict2512 6 років тому

      I have a friend with a master degree in Spanish working at Walmart

    • @slofool
      @slofool 6 років тому

      I know tons and tons of smart computer techs stuck in low pay jobs because they don't have that degree. Sorry, but that "worthless" piece of paper can all get you a job and promotion.

  • @mickvk
    @mickvk 6 років тому +4

    Amen and amen. Thanks for the video. We've gotta privatize education and focus more on home schooling.

  • @Benanslandon
    @Benanslandon 3 роки тому

    As an ill-prepared college graduate. Yes. The answer is yes. My career is crushing me beyond all expectations. It's as if profs spent time glorifying as opposed to instilling and honest representation.

  • @monkeygraborange
    @monkeygraborange 6 років тому +3

    No one needs another Minority Community Organizer, everyone will need an Electrician at one point... do the goddamned math.

  • @r.a.dalton8807
    @r.a.dalton8807 6 років тому +2

    I am a 63 year old retired U.S. Army Master Sergeant (1972-1993). What we need in our society now is to return to widespread use of apprenticeship in order to learn a profession or trade as a practical alternative to going to a very expensive college or university - which many cannot afford anymore. In addition, it has been my experience that today’s young people no longer possess the attention span older generations once had, and tend to be very intolerant of traditional classroom instruction which does not constantly engage them. For those not familiar with it, an apprenticeship is a system of training a new generation of practitioners of a trade or profession primarily through on-the-job training, although some accompanying classroom study or reading may also be required. Many apprenticeships also pay the apprentice while that person is working, albeit at lesser rates from a fully qualified worker. Basically instead of paying to be taught, they earn while they learn. Based on practices going all the way back to the middle ages, young people could start their apprenticeship while even in high school, which would keep many from dropping out of school and also keep them out of trouble. There are very few downsides to a properly created and managed apprenticeship program. Going back to apprenticeship as a way of learning a new career and good work ethics would be a win-win for all involved and deal with many of the problems our society is facing today. Let’s bring back this proven system now! For more very interesting information and background on apprenticeship see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apprenticeship

  • @BTLFAEN
    @BTLFAEN 4 роки тому +1

    Tucker is the BEST

  • @johnclegg4993
    @johnclegg4993 6 років тому +5

    Leaving them like zombies - only the strong willed survive.

  • @kevincharmasson
    @kevincharmasson 6 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for posting this. I have been trying to get education reform in Oklahoma because of everything Tucker talks about is true. As a nontraditional student, I was appalled and really pissed off over the corruption at the state universities in Oklahoma. They know....they just don't care. Yet parents....still haven't gotten off their asses to do something about it.

    • @miguelbermudez5426
      @miguelbermudez5426 5 років тому

      And OU apparently is supposed to be a top university too. I wonder if it's certain majors or just liberal arts majors.

  • @MrTheguywiththemoney
    @MrTheguywiththemoney 6 років тому +5

    Make the companies train employees again, and stop making people pay to get a job.

    • @ronchurchman9387
      @ronchurchman9387 6 років тому

      WHY is it the companies JOB to EDUCATE you, that makes NO since, you should have some skills? RIGHT??

    • @MrTheguywiththemoney
      @MrTheguywiththemoney 6 років тому +1

      RON CHURCHMAN, they are the ones looking for slaves to make them rich... why shouldn't they pay for employees? Making people take 4+ years ($50k+)in college to learn something that could be taught in the field in less than 6 months seems illogical

    • @MrTheguywiththemoney
      @MrTheguywiththemoney 6 років тому

      RON CHURCHMAN, you know business at one point in time, trained and provided healthcare, and retirement... that has been pushed to the slave now

  • @scrumsey
    @scrumsey 6 років тому +2

    The value of just about anything is in its rarity and difficulty of acquisition. When everyone has something, it has little value. As we mindlessly maintain that everyone gets a college degree, we must lower the standards. And the value is less. Then we have degrees that have little economic value (sociology, gender studies, etc.). And we neglect important skills and trades --that might be more lucrative and appropriate for a segment of society (i.e. electricians, plumbers, mechanics, carpenters, etc. in trade schools and apprenticeships)

  • @richardwebb2348
    @richardwebb2348 4 роки тому

    A recent poll indicated that 52% of Republican voters graduated High School, and of the remainder, 17.5% obtained a GED, and 11% attend a 4-year college - with 67% dropping out before completing the degree. Good news for Walmart!

  • @Music-pq8cm
    @Music-pq8cm 8 місяців тому

    Most jobs don’t require a degree. Also, there are not enough jobs available that pay enough to cover the cost of a degree. In addition, the U.S. is bringing in millions of foreign nationals to saturate the labor markets.

  • @Thyalwaysseek
    @Thyalwaysseek 6 років тому +1

    Not only are they leaving college ill prepared they're leaving college with an average of about $50k in debt hanging around their necks for life.

  • @MrApplewine
    @MrApplewine 4 роки тому

    3:27 I think in the UK the average GPA is about a 3.5. So, even higher than in the US. 80% get a 1st or 2:1 grade, which would be equivalent to 80% getting a 3.1 or above in the US. I personally believe that everyone should either get a 3.1 or above or have to take the class over again and replace the grade. It really isn't fair to have somebody spend all that time and graduate with an unfavorable grade. Either that, or switch to Pass/Fail just like industry tests do. You are either certified or you are not. What will set you apart will be be other factors which make you unique and many employers are not even looking for much of that.

  • @samreilly780
    @samreilly780 6 років тому

    Breathing filthy air
    Now cost a fortune
    Every breath I take
    Bank wants a portion
    Just waking up
    Cost two hundred dollars
    Parents said college
    Gonna solve the problem
    All college made me
    Was an alcoholic
    A career overwhelmed
    By my coping problems
    The thought of college
    Always sounded awesome
    But it turned out college
    Gave me all my problems

  • @lewrenelamse9191
    @lewrenelamse9191 6 років тому +2

    A lot a damage to the thought process it's almost like they lost all their values that they were brought up with,, My grandson lived. On campus said all they did was party his first year of college. He came. back home and finished in a local college lived at home and did well and is a engineer works for a good Company ,

  • @graciegracie9187
    @graciegracie9187 6 років тому +1

    Critical audiences will want to know about the sources and methods for determining this statistical evidence.

  • @samuelaugustin946
    @samuelaugustin946 6 місяців тому

    GEN Z THIS IS WHY THEY'RE NOT HIRING YOU

  • @sorrybutnotsorry8439
    @sorrybutnotsorry8439 6 років тому

    I went to a private university for undergrad where the class sizes were limited to 30-35 people. Small class size is truly the key. When I enrolled in grad school at a huge public university, I had to spend part of the time working as a teaching assistant, and a lot of those classes had 600-700 people in them. There were lots of students who really needed intensive help to succeed, but there just weren't enough resources to help all of them. It was genuinely sad. And yeah, there were plenty of students who never bothered to go to class, so they flunked. I don't know what to do about them...if someone doesn't want to go to class, you can't exactly force them to. Finally, I will say that I had the pleasure of meeting and teaching some really talented, hard-working students when I was a TA. There are plenty of very talented millennials who are exceptional achievers, and they don't get nearly enough credit in the media.

  • @HardKore5250
    @HardKore5250 6 років тому +1

    3 years automation will be up to 60 percent in blue collar and white collar jobs. Save your money dont go

    • @FredericEllsworth104
      @FredericEllsworth104 5 років тому

      My family forced me to go and I am regretting it. They're being bitches towards me every time I rebel. How can I get out of it for good?

  • @shawnsimmons1308
    @shawnsimmons1308 6 років тому

    Depends on the university. Liberty University is a great example of failing to teach our youth how to deal with real issues using real world solutions.

  • @lindsayjones1359
    @lindsayjones1359 6 років тому

    Probably most can't keep a checkbook up to date, calculate the percentage cost of a loan or mortgage, or know how much grocery items cost, much less, car insurance, or basic knowledge of how to save and spend money. No wonder credit card debt is rampant.

  • @Wolf37f
    @Wolf37f 6 років тому

    Kinda hard to argue against a meritocracy when you have to implement one to remain relevant. As a recent grad myself I can tell you that it’s not too difficult to get As and Bs when most of the course work is subjective opinion in place of objectivity and facts. I was able to get “A” papers in courses like African American literature, Wilderness literature, all Humanities reqs, English, Political Violence, Use of Force, etc. Pretty much any course that wasn’t a science, history, or math (which was almost half my course work) I could literally bullshit through barely opening a book. I would get my papers back and actually be shocked I got an A for how little effort I put in and then be even more shocked when others would fail thinking, how shitty do you have to be to fail this class, because I just got an A for taking a dump on my page.

  • @walsh9354
    @walsh9354 6 років тому

    YES, even high school, I’m in college now, & have no ideal how to do taxes, a check book & am teaching myself to cook. College I’ve wasted 2 years of generals I’ll never use rather then just narrow the education to my future job field only. The other problem with truckers statistics is affirmative action & foreign students. No s** these ppl will perform low smh

  • @psykon8858
    @psykon8858 6 років тому

    A well panned out collage(As in paper mache). Clearly the social development is always an improvement.

  • @mutlenyea6500
    @mutlenyea6500 6 років тому +1

    Differential equation in college? A bit too late, no?

    • @kevincharmasson
      @kevincharmasson 6 років тому

      Lololololol. My first B in college. Last semester.....I can afford one B. Nontraditional student here.

  • @jasonle4125
    @jasonle4125 6 років тому

    I got a job already so fuck college

  • @fraserfir19
    @fraserfir19 6 років тому

    Colleges have become places where young people go to become bankrupted thankfully I didn't go so I don't have any student loan debt to worry about also when I do a lot of reading I don't exactly remember a lot of stuff that read and that isn't exactly a good quality to have in college.

  • @jaybird7534
    @jaybird7534 6 років тому

    College is the new grammar school.

  • @JojoCrazyCat
    @JojoCrazyCat 6 років тому

    yes

  • @john3sixteen840
    @john3sixteen840 6 років тому

    Can't speak for no one but myself, but I can honestly say, after 5 years of college and a b.s degree, I didn't really learn a damn thing. I did however drink a lot and "met" a bunch of slutty girls. Looking back at, it was a boatload of fun, but completely worthless. Wouldn't advise those I high school to waste your dad's valuable money, unless engineering or something like that us your thing. Trade school or vocational options are worth a look.

    • @walsh9354
      @walsh9354 6 років тому

      john 3sixteen I’m in college now for my Rn. First two years on generals I feel were wasted
      A friend / classmate has returned back to college Bc his criminal justice degree can’t him a job
      My gf works for a major health company & has coworkers also with a criminal justice degree not using it
      Her brother has a criminal justice degree yet is going for his CDL
      I made more then my ex who was a gym teacher & a bunch of other certifications doing $10 an hour cash in construction with all the hours I worked & bonuses

  • @ManPursueExcellence
    @ManPursueExcellence 6 років тому

    Yup

  • @yeseniarivera7776
    @yeseniarivera7776 6 років тому

    It’s so sad and we pay so much for notting bck

  • @bowhunter2272
    @bowhunter2272 6 років тому

    What they should do is make them work a hard labor job were they can know what work is.trust me the teachers saying that hard working people are dumb are fools who never worked a day in thier life a college professor dont work thats why they have the enetgy to run there mouth

  • @denisecody3639
    @denisecody3639 6 років тому

    Too many liberal art degrees being handed out!

    • @gray.crawford
      @gray.crawford 3 роки тому

      Lol he was interviewing the president of a liberal arts school

  • @FunTownToys
    @FunTownToys 6 років тому

    Interesting

  • @brandonbielinski5611
    @brandonbielinski5611 5 років тому

    Fox is really something else lol. "Submit to brain washing" bahahaha