The Delusion of Post-Millennialism & its Zionist Inspiration

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  • Excerpted from Lesson 23: The Revelation of Jesus Christ to the Apostle & Evangelist John the Theologian, Rev. 20:5-6 (Series 4), by Fr. Peter Heers
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 96

  • @AlexKomnenos
    @AlexKomnenos День тому +69

    I’ve left Pentecostalism for Eastern Orthodoxy, waiting to become a catechumen at an Antiochian parish in my area. I’ve heard way too much dispensationalism and Christian Zionism in the Pentecostal church, totally over it.

    • @blockpartyvintage1568
      @blockpartyvintage1568 День тому +18

      Same. Grew up Pentacostal and converted to Holy Orthodoxy

    • @thecriticalnous
      @thecriticalnous День тому +11

      Welcome home brothers !

    • @Boxing_Reviews
      @Boxing_Reviews 15 годин тому

      You post this right when Israel is under attack. The Bible speaks about Israel versus the nations like Persia and Russia and around them. You aren't a Christian at all. You're a antisemite false sheep.

    • @bjornlarsen7440
      @bjornlarsen7440 6 годин тому

      Amen brother I’m on the same journey, may God bless you.

  • @miastupid7911
    @miastupid7911 День тому +31

    IC XC NIKA

  • @fractal_3
    @fractal_3 День тому +63

    I grew up Jehovah's Witness, I'm very grateful that you addressed their beliefs! I'm very interested in Orthodoxy and glad to be learning more

    • @kianis1206
      @kianis1206 День тому +7

      I’m ex JW been orthodox for almost 3 years now..Orthodoxy has objective historical evidence that supports its historical claims..Keep looking into it I’m sure the evidence will speak for itself

    • @theantman2203
      @theantman2203 День тому +3

      Glory to God! I will pray for you tonight. I hope that you decide to visit an Orthodox Church at some point. As a recent convert I found that the people at the Orthodox Churches are very welcoming and I’m sure they’ll be glad to see you there.

    • @Madokaexe
      @Madokaexe День тому +4

      Same, ex JW from Brasil!

    • @anathamon
      @anathamon День тому +1

      The true church of christ welcomes you.

    • @fractal_3
      @fractal_3 День тому

      @@anathamon thank you 🙏💕☦️

  • @MiguelDLewis
    @MiguelDLewis День тому +57

    JW: "Jesus isn't God. A man can't be God."
    Me: "So nothing on Earth can be God?"
    JW: "Nothing on Earth can be God."
    Me: "What about a burning bush? Can a burning bush be God?"
    JW: "...you have a nice day sir."

    • @lylyscuir
      @lylyscuir День тому +12

      Lol, you can have this same conversation with a Muslim and it will go the same way.

    • @MiguelDLewis
      @MiguelDLewis День тому +7

      @@lylyscuir Facts.

    • @Madokaexe
      @Madokaexe День тому +4

      They also believe that God is a spiritual figure that resides in a space, a throne, meaning that god's throne exists co-eternally with him, lol

    • @bradleyheissmann4538
      @bradleyheissmann4538 21 годину тому

      Big brain chair ​@@Madokaexe

  • @arthurhyatt8964
    @arthurhyatt8964 22 години тому +4

    Thank you and God bless you Fr Peter.

  • @Christianity_and_Perennialism
    @Christianity_and_Perennialism День тому +18

    Zionism is supported by the deviations of every tradition: Christian Zionists/Fundamentalists, Jewish Zionists, Wahhabi/Salafi Muslims, together with atheists. They share a common spirit just as the sincere versions of those traditions also share a common spirit and cause, the efforts of literalists and exclusivists to sow conflict and division between them notwithstanding.

  • @VIVACRISTOREY-v4x
    @VIVACRISTOREY-v4x 6 годин тому +1

    Thank Jesus Christ for the wisdom and understanding we have all received to this point

  • @ianmackenzie686
    @ianmackenzie686 День тому +17

    Don't forget Hagee in that list of dispensationalists.

    • @emil3709
      @emil3709 9 годин тому +2

      Yes, and Hagee takes it so far as to suggest that Jews do not need Christ for salvation and still have a separate covenant, which amounts to a denial of Christ. I don't really even see how Hagee can be called a Christian since his theology is so far off the mark. He's definitely making lots of money off of his teachings, though.

    • @ianmackenzie686
      @ianmackenzie686 8 годин тому +3

      @@emil3709
      Yes, very cult like. And he's quite wealthy.

    • @emil3709
      @emil3709 7 годин тому

      @@ianmackenzie686 Yes, and he's not doing his followers any favors and he's leading Jews away from Christ, worst of all. While some people take exception to the mention of a Zionist connection to dispensationalism, it is literally true in the sense that at least some of the funding of the Scofield Reference Bible came from Samuel Untermyer, a self-proclaimed Zionist attorney. So far as I know, that is not really disputed and is a widely acknowledged fact. It was the Scofield Reference Bible that really popularized the dispensationalist heresy.

  • @halleluyah-v5h
    @halleluyah-v5h День тому +15

    Father peter, please respond to old calender comments from fr. Joseph

  • @WORKOUTSOLUTIONS
    @WORKOUTSOLUTIONS День тому

    ✝️CHRIST IS RISEN ☀️
    ❤💪👩‍❤️‍👨🙏✝ GOD BE WITH US AGAINST EVIL AND TEMPTATIONS ✝🙏⛪️💍🕊

  • @bayzedgossiper2852
    @bayzedgossiper2852 15 годин тому

    I’d love to see a talk on this with you and Fr John Whiteford. He’s very knowledgeable about Protestant history!

  • @alexandermacarie6396
    @alexandermacarie6396 12 годин тому +5

    You’re speaking about pre-millennialism

  • @Chrsi-o5o
    @Chrsi-o5o День тому +2

    Thank you for the consistent and thoughtful content. Great work.

  • @bryantsamperi3402
    @bryantsamperi3402 День тому +1

    "FIRST gather the bundles and cast them into the fire, then gather the wheat into my barn."
    Since tares necessarily must look like wheat, then the bundles can be likened to denominations that look like Christ's, but are not.

  • @paulmelonas7263
    @paulmelonas7263 День тому +4

    I'm confused. If the 1000 years is the time between the first and second coming of Christ as stated by St. Andrew, how can that be true since it's been over 2000 years since those two comings?

    • @samueljennings4809
      @samueljennings4809 День тому +14

      The position is that the thousand years are not literally one thousand years but rather symbolic. Same way that the Psalms say that God reigns over a thousand hills (I think that’s the verse), but that doesn’t mean that God ONLY rules over a thousand hills, but that the number is symbolic for something grand and enduring. God will be praised for a “thousand generations” but that doesn’t mean that God will only be worshipped by a thousand generations and that this will stop afterwards.

    • @paulmelonas7263
      @paulmelonas7263 День тому +5

      @@samueljennings4809 Ahha, OK that makes sense and thank you. I am trying to recover from too many years of reformed evangelical indoctrination.

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 4 години тому

      @@paulmelonas7263 The prophets tended to round up or down to the nearest sacred number, and the biggest is 1,000, so anything over that is going default to a “millennium”.

  • @SuperOverlord999
    @SuperOverlord999 День тому +6

    Postmil is not dispensationalist, Wilson's view is more consistent with the fathers and says the millennium is not literal, however he says that there will be a golden age of Christianity.

  • @ApostolicEchoes
    @ApostolicEchoes День тому +5

    Fr. what is the Orthodox response to the early Fathers like Justin Martyr and Irenaeus teaching a literal thousand years? How did they get this so wrong?

    • @halleluyah-v5h
      @halleluyah-v5h День тому +3

      Fr. Peter hasn't responded to fr. Joseph sauiden, this important.

    • @LoftOfTheUniverse
      @LoftOfTheUniverse День тому +1

      It was before the council ruling so it's not seen as against the church.

    • @ApostolicEchoes
      @ApostolicEchoes День тому

      @@LoftOfTheUniverse My question is geared more towards how the Fathers arrived at the position.

    • @ApostolicEchoes
      @ApostolicEchoes День тому +1

      @@halleluyah-v5h I think he should

    • @ChristianKnight-1054
      @ChristianKnight-1054 День тому

      So It's not literal?

  • @byzantine1107
    @byzantine1107 День тому +2

    Thought the ortho church was preterist? All of the bible has been completed. Since the fall of jerusalem.

    • @annalynn9325
      @annalynn9325 День тому +6

      Per the Nicene Creed, we still await the second coming of Jesus

    • @MultiSpeedMetal
      @MultiSpeedMetal День тому +3

      Partial preterism. The second coming hasn't happened. Dual fulfillment is another thing to consider.

  • @vy7737
    @vy7737 День тому +1

    Thank you for this video

  • @adrianwhyatt594
    @adrianwhyatt594 23 години тому +2

    Jehovah´s witnesses and others fail to realise that we have already had over 7,000 years since creation. It is the year 7533 from Adam and the creation of the world.

    • @genautelevishn5999
      @genautelevishn5999 2 години тому

      so creation of the world happened after thracians drank wine 7000 BC

  • @NicholasMGlasson
    @NicholasMGlasson День тому

    When Artifical Intelligence first appeared with image generation, one of the very first things circulating social media was imitations of Christ's image. Just something strange I observed

  • @jimvellios1426
    @jimvellios1426 День тому +1

    unfortunate that these people reject church fathers, teacherd of the ersly church, councils and dogmas as simply put man-made things.
    they fail or wilfully reject the understandong thst the bible and the creeds, etc were put together by these very people, yet they say thst the biblr is the only source of truth and inspirstion for living godly lives.
    again when they approached regarding who put (being the early church and the councils represented bybthese church fathers) they cast it aside as being man-made and for thie reason they reject the truth.
    how obviously inssne or hypocritical can wuch things be.

  • @JulianLife81
    @JulianLife81 13 годин тому

    I hate to ask this again but who is chanting the Αξιον έστιν at the end? Sorry to be such a bother, but it’s exceptional.

  • @mariuscortac4063
    @mariuscortac4063 10 годин тому

    What's the name of the outro chant?

  • @samfisher1964
    @samfisher1964 19 годин тому

    what should the people in Muslim countries do in terms of conversion and having a spiritual father, as you know conversion in such places are a no no

  • @littlefishbigmountain
    @littlefishbigmountain 8 годин тому

    This is pre-millenialism, not post-mil. Pre-mil: literal thousand years (chiliasm), post-mil: not literal 1000 years but the Church will eventually conquer the world and Christ will come down to His kingdom made ready for His arrival, amil: also not literal 1000 years but things will become bad rather than good and Christ will come set it all straight.
    Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

  • @SCPDOGE_
    @SCPDOGE_ День тому

    Can you address Messianic Judaism?

  • @sifu9683
    @sifu9683 День тому

    Eurabia