I play Mizuno MP20 blades. I’ve hit the i525 and i230 up against Mizuno 223’s and yes they are a little firmer feeling but I play the Prov1 Left Dash which is a firmer slightly lower spinning ball and a simple switch to the ProV1 or TP5 and the whole spin and feel thing is resolved. i525 likely to be more prone to the knuckle ball but the i230 was such a solid and consistent club. I’ll happily take the additional distance and forgiveness on balance of the i230’s which I’ll be switching to for next season.
Hilarious! Every tour player playing these irons claim they feel softer than most forged clubs on the market. They don’t feel clunky whatsoever. Quite possibly the best Ping iron ever produced. Tour players are loving them.
Mad that I’m not a tour player and have my own opinion though ain’t it. Imagine that 😂
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@@philrob4468 😂😂😂😂. Welcome my friend, we have a zero tolerance to idiocy pahaha
Clunky? Tom’s right, you response is overly harsh. I don’t game these but they are hardly clunky and closer to soft than anything I tried in this players with a little help category
Pretty solid review … you have a nice athletic swing but I will say you are pretty handsy and imo the main reason for inconsistent yardages. It’s not the clubs.
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Honestly you have a good swing it’s just a little handsy… speaking from someone who is also a little handsy🤷♂️. Just a little constructive observation.
Awesome review mate! Just got back from a fitting and I have been fitted for these, having not even given these a thought before hand. I’m a 15 handicap, and found these incredibly easy to hit, was able to find the middle of the face much more consistently, and was getting a lovely ball flight. Cannot wait to get these in the bag!
I never fully understood feel and sound taking more precedence than performance. I hear this all the time on reviews. These clubs are the best irons I’ve ever hit, I never hit three within that tight of a pin before. But it sounds like a garbage can so I’ll stick with the ones I don’t hit as well that sound familiar.
That makes zero sense. I would play bright pink irons with sausages on them if it made me better lol.
@@lucasweaver3058 this is the issue…. No club makes you better, that isn’t a thing. So what feels the best, sounds the best and gives me the most confidence is the most important…
I had a Ping crossover that sounded like a mis-hit every time, no matter how well I hit it. Performance was good, better than my hybrid. Traded it in after a three rounds. Now I have a Tour Edge 9 wood that sounds great and performs amazingly. There are too many options to suffer through terrible sound.
@@thegolfsupply Oh thats a very slippery slope on the stance. Lessons, practice and playing will make you consistently better of course, but saying clubs that offer incredible consistency and forgiveness wont make you better? I gotta disagree to an extent. For someone playing older, 10-15 yr old clubs a club like I230 or others in same class can absolutely make you better through forgiveness and consistent shots, which the 230’s do in spades. I can hit 10 shots with my 7 iron and cover them with a blanket but cant do that with my old burner 2.0’s so….I guess i see that the same as saying playing blades cant make you worse, which is 100% false. I think a much better statement would be “a club cant make your swing better”.
Thanks for mentioning the hcp range. I agree, anyone up to an 18 can play these. They feel pretty fantastic for this much forgiveness.
They are very forgiving, but I happened to just get center strikes almost every time with these; amazing clubs!
The i230 are not hollow-backed, that's the 525. These are made for tour players to a 15hc, not much offset, smaller than i210 in longer irons, more MOI, spin is consistent with the many micro grooves, made to prevent flyers. I've got a set coming after playing the Mizuno 223 for a season. Feel was excellent for a Ping but it's not Mizuno feel.
I came extremely close to buying the mizuno 225 today. Got the i230 instead. Hope I made the right call!
I don’t find the screw offensive or ugly. I kind of like exposed fasteners (I know this doesn’t fasten anything) for the “mechanical look”😀👍🏻
These irons are amazing. They inspired a ton of confidence, and I'm a 15 HCP. I liked them much better than the i430s/i525s. Got fitted and ordered immediately; cannot wait until they come in! Funny how you keep mentioning the offset; I'm used to game improvement irons with TONS of offset, so for me, these have hardly any offset.
We all just like what we like and if you can play you can play . My mate is a great player off +3 but has i230’s having moved from srixon zx5’s so it’s just taste . He’s got a few course records around the country from when he used his old ping i200’s 🤯
Nice review there Ash. I'm not a lover of PING irons even though both Debi and Dani have them. I don't like the offset or the notch out of the hosel/heel of the club.
Three lovely shots into the green and quite good spin given that you'd not cleaned the face at all 👍
Please get the Power spec, Very Happy... more consistent than my 2022 .Titleist tT.200.. and jumbo max S8 Ultralite grips....
Just subscribed .. good vid . I play i210s
really like my 210s but I want to try mizunos so I’m off to search your channel fir a review of them 👍👍👍👍👍
Let me explain what the "rare and occasional flyer" is that you sometimes get from hollow body irons. It's that 1/100 time that you actually hit the sweet spot. If you are NOT getting a "flyer", what you are seeing is the distance lost from not hitting the allegedly "huge" sweet spot. The fact that people think the flyer is undesirable is just an indication of how poorly they hit their clubs. Ideally, they should be hitting "flyers" 100% of the time and get the max distance the club offers.
For independent reviews that take the player out of the equation and test clubs for real (with a robot) look at the Cool Clubs channel and educate yourself on what it means to not hit the sweet spot, even on forgiving clubs.
Yeah that helps a robot reviewing the club buddy. Because we all middle it every single shot don’t we :). And that is not what a flyer is either 😂
@@thegolfsupply It certainly DOES help. Instead of drawing conclusions from inconsistent strikes, the robot is programmed to hit shots from 2 patterns of six points of contact each. One "amateur" pattern that uses more of the club face and one "pro" pattern that is a tighter grouping around the center.
Each shot is also 80 mph for a 7-iron which means that you can actually evaluate the club and its technology.
No strike from a club will fly longer than the center (high) sweet spot.
On 'Flyer/Flier' People using hollow body irons often refer to hot shots from the clubs as catching a flier. Since no shots from a club will go longer than the sweet spot, it's an indication of how rarely these types of golfers hit the right spot.
Traditionally, a flyer is more often a low spin shot, maybe due to moisture or grass, but I'm just using common terminology regarding these clubs.
I appreciate that you took the constructive critique so well and that you really learned something and grew as a human. Needless to say: your viewers have much quality content-with lots of insight- to look forward to from you going forward.
All the best.
Its always a tradeoff between feel, durability and what you can afford. I used to hit hogan irons made of that soft 1025 steel and the grooves would wear completely out in under 3 years. I see 3-4 year old Titleist irons in used club shops all the time with the sweet spot totally worn out. by a "better player". I'm guessing the stainless faces in these Pings would probably last at least 7-8 years.
how do these compare to T100? which is more forgiving? Are they kind of the same other than sound and feel? Torn between those two sets here...
In reality these actually feel a tad softer than the T100. The polymer insert is well done and provides a great soft feel. This review is whacky.
@@tomhammond478 He was trying to hit an 8 iron knock down and couldn't do it and says "Yeah, these clubs aren't made for that", that's nonsense, lol. He said they feel firm but they feel soft to me but feel is subjective. Aside from that, I that his review was spot on.
Ping i210s transformed my game but I’ll stick with them , these may be on the shopping list though
Turf interaction comparable to Srixons?
I've switched from mizuno jpx921 forged to these and dropped from 14 to 10 in couple of months
Yep not as soft but miss hits not as punished, I love them
Only just watching this now because I’m looking at possibly putting these in the bag. Reading some of the comments I don’t know what is wrong with people. You watch a review to see a persons opinion on a product and everyone is slating you for it 😂😂😂😂.
Prefer Ping over Titleist/ Mizuno as these do not turn brownish after a year. Much better durability.
Srixon ZX7 is an awesome player’s iron
Ya there good i have them but just switched to the i230 and couldn’t be happier i230 is by far more consistent best irons I’ve ever hit bar none
Literally the same offset as t100’s
@@thegolfsupply… They have the exact same offset. It appears to be slightly more because the hosel has a thicker diameter. Your review of these irons is just the opposite of what tour players are saying.
Excessive offset? Don't feel forged? What a poor review.
@thegolfsupply I think it's a bias opinion....you said you've never played Ping and seems as though you don't factors like durability....these aren't hollow, not as much offset as you want to believe.....
Ping i210s transformed my game but I’ll stick with them , these may be on the shopping list though
I went into my local golf store a couple ago to make the game easier. I thought I would be leaving with the 430s but couldn't believe how easy the i230s were to hit. I've played a couple of rounds with them so far and couldn't be happier. Thanks for a great review!