I built a barn in the 90s with rough sawn Log leaf pine. Each board, was marinated with diesel and motor oil. The post in the ground rotted from the inside out. The bugs ate the rafters and lathes down to powder. If I'd used pressure treated post, and sprayed the lumber with a Chemical such as Timbor, the barn wood still be standing.
Do you think the bugs came out from the inside of the wood? I am getting ready for a shed project and have a farm with a barn that is over 100 years old. The barn is still standing, rough cut green lumber was the building material back then I am sure. The post show signs of decay, but for the most part are still in pretty good shape. The builders, farmers, not engineers, could have used bigger joist, and closer column spacing, but the structure is still standing. It is remarkable to me, but I have seen no sign of treatment on the barn, just a good roof. That being said, your experience is a horror story to me.
I've got a sawmill and after sawing, stickered and dried. I flame anything that will be close to ground then treat with used motor oil and diesel. I've been going back every other year and spraying a maintenance coat and had amazing luck so far. I also treat the outside of our log cabin with oil and diesel. Works great. I'm sure EPA or DEQ won't like it but they don't pay for rotton wood repair.
Thank you for covering the boring or carpenter bee's .... I absolutely dispise those critters. (a tennis raquet ruins ther day but you never get them all) I have been ponderin the motor oil method.. I'm in NC
@@8thdaychronicles I appreciate you replying... Question: I know you said "all" untreated, But I have not noticed them boring in oak, but I also don't have a lot of oak boards in barns or sheds.(so again I don't know) Now that I have my own mill, I have a lot of oak on the ground that has died and/or fallen from storms and wind. obviously a lot of sap rot to be cut away but these oaks... Red, White, Water and Pin will yield some very nice and strong lumber,... with some effort. I'm thinking a paint roller for applying, and thought about applying right after I sawed and stacked. my idea there is the oil on the fresh sawed will slow the drying and maybe slow some of the cracking. meanwhile keeping all other "pests" away as well. and I figured I might have to apply at least 1, maybe 2 more times I know the wood is not going to soak in as well not dried. I have cut oak logs that have been down 3 years tarp covered, and they are not what you call "green" but they are still sopping wet passed the sap rot. (they don't dry til you open them up) Any input on this idea much appreciated.
@@lectro88 Our main barn is a combo of white pine lumber and white oak lumber, about 70% pine and the rest oak. Both are rough-cut sawn lumber. We treated the barn siding as soon as we were finished with it and 8 years later zero carpenter bee or insect damage. And you could be right...maybe the oak is a bit more resistant to boring bees, I'm not exactly sure, but I see them buzzing around it and leave after treatment. I do know they will attack pine lumber with a vengeance. One thing about white oak lumber, I drill pilot holes for all screws. The seasoned white oak will dull a bit quick! And if a pilot hole isnt utilized, driving a decking screw thru it can cause a crack to start forming and over time the crack runs further and further. But it is indeed excellent barn siding! Good luck with your lumber!
@@8thdaychronicles You echo my general thoughts. You are correct in untreated pine they will have a hayday with it. I have seen started and abandoned attempts on "store bought" pressure treated, maybe a very few successful bores. Just in case anyone is wondering.... "store bought " pressure treated is not 100% safe from attack(slightly off topic) It's been good talking with you, best to you and yours too.
First time here. I can already tell I'm gonna love watching.
Thanks a bundle!
The old timers knew locust wood
Yes they sure did!
I built a barn in the 90s with rough sawn Log leaf pine. Each board, was marinated with diesel and motor oil. The post in the ground rotted from the inside out. The bugs ate the rafters and lathes down to powder. If I'd used pressure treated post, and sprayed the lumber with a Chemical such as Timbor, the barn wood still be standing.
Sad to hear that! My main concern here is repelling Carpenter Bees (Boring Bees). So far, so good.
Do you think the bugs came out from the inside of the wood? I am getting ready for a shed project and have a farm with a barn that is over 100 years old. The barn is still standing, rough cut green lumber was the building material back then I am sure. The post show signs of decay, but for the most part are still in pretty good shape. The builders, farmers, not engineers, could have used bigger joist, and closer column spacing, but the structure is still standing. It is remarkable to me, but I have seen no sign of treatment on the barn, just a good roof. That being said, your experience is a horror story to me.
I've got a sawmill and after sawing, stickered and dried. I flame anything that will be close to ground then treat with used motor oil and diesel. I've been going back every other year and spraying a maintenance coat and had amazing luck so far. I also treat the outside of our log cabin with oil and diesel. Works great. I'm sure EPA or DEQ won't like it but they don't pay for rotton wood repair.
Ive read that lightly charring the wood at ground contact works very good also. I'm gonna try that method sometime soon also.
I recently had the idea to do this while building a fish cleaning table.
What a blinding flash of the obvious.
Good idea!
I mix used moter oil and off road diesel and Mix it 40/60and a pump up sprayer and spray the whole shed
I also know a few folks who said they did it this way too and had great results.
I do the same thing as you. Works awesome.
Thank you for covering the boring or carpenter bee's .... I absolutely dispise those critters. (a tennis raquet ruins ther day but you never get them all)
I have been ponderin the motor oil method..
I'm in NC
Thanks, lectro88! Much appreciated comment and thanks a bundle for watching! Boring (carpenter) bees are a real issue with raw, untreated lumber.
@@8thdaychronicles I appreciate you replying...
Question:
I know you said "all" untreated, But I have not noticed them boring in oak, but I also don't have a lot of oak boards in barns or sheds.(so again I don't know)
Now that I have my own mill, I have a lot of oak on the ground that has died and/or fallen from storms and wind.
obviously a lot of sap rot to be cut away but these oaks... Red, White, Water and Pin will yield some very nice and strong lumber,... with some effort.
I'm thinking a paint roller for applying, and thought about applying right after I sawed and stacked. my idea there is the oil on the fresh sawed will slow the drying and maybe slow some of the cracking. meanwhile keeping all other "pests" away as well.
and I figured I might have to apply at least 1, maybe 2 more times I know the wood is not going to soak in as well not dried.
I have cut oak logs that have been down 3 years tarp covered, and they are not what you call "green" but they are still sopping wet passed the sap rot. (they don't dry til you open them up)
Any input on this idea much appreciated.
@@lectro88 Our main barn is a combo of white pine lumber and white oak lumber, about 70% pine and the rest oak. Both are rough-cut sawn lumber. We treated the barn siding as soon as we were finished with it and 8 years later zero carpenter bee or insect damage. And you could be right...maybe the oak is a bit more resistant to boring bees, I'm not exactly sure, but I see them buzzing around it and leave after treatment. I do know they will attack pine lumber with a vengeance. One thing about white oak lumber, I drill pilot holes for all screws. The seasoned white oak will dull a bit quick! And if a pilot hole isnt utilized, driving a decking screw thru it can cause a crack to start forming and over time the crack runs further and further. But it is indeed excellent barn siding! Good luck with your lumber!
@@8thdaychronicles You echo my general thoughts.
You are correct in untreated pine they will have a hayday with it.
I have seen started and abandoned attempts on "store bought" pressure treated, maybe a very few successful bores.
Just in case anyone is wondering.... "store bought " pressure treated is not 100% safe from attack(slightly off topic)
It's been good talking with you, best to you and yours too.
I might of missed it but where in the video did he explain how to treat the wood???
Its treated with used motor oil. Some people will mix diesel fuel with the oil to treat.