Carolina Crown's Hornline: From Average to Awesome (2002-2013)

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  • Carolina Crown's Hornline is in the midst of a Dynasty - not placing lower than 2nd place in DCI Finals between 2011 - 2019.
    How did they do it?
    In 2003, Carolina Crown hired both Michael Klesch (brass aranger) and Matt Harloff (brass caption head).
    In the video, all scores are out of 20 points. All scores are from DCI finals only.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 103

  • @brown55061
    @brown55061 3 роки тому +275

    The opener in 06 was the moment I realized Crown had just become a contender. It was all up from there. From that point on their brass became legend and people went to shows just to hear Crown's opening hit. Don't know how that dude continues to pump out amazing hornlines but Crown has a great recipe.

    • @Iliketordles
      @Iliketordles 3 роки тому +2

      For me, I've always thought that their 2004 show set them up for greater success in the future. Their brass was pretty average imo, but I think doing "Bohemian Rhapsody" might have helped with recruiting and gaining notice...at least, that is when I began to take notice of them. They really stepped it up in 2005/2006 with the quality of their brass sound and shows , and then in 2007 they stepped it up slightly more. Every year after that they have been excellent.

    • @CWelton6
      @CWelton6 3 роки тому +6

      2006 was my first year marching. I was with the Mandarins and had heard Blue Devils, SCV, etc from the side after we performed in Cali shows but never heard a drum Corp show up front in person yet, but when we made it to Texas and there were more corps performing I got to come back and watch the later corps and Carolina Crown went on and I will never forget that opener. Life changing moment

    • @Redman147
      @Redman147 3 роки тому +1

      Well, if he leads Gods Hornline the good Lord must've given him something to create that masterclass with brass.

    • @noclass2gun342
      @noclass2gun342 Рік тому +2

      i marched in 06... i can tell you how... matt harloff demands nothing short of perfection. nail the technique and the volume will come... CROWN BRASS IS THE SLEDGEHAMMER THAT ALL OTHER BRASS LINES WILL BE SMASHED BY... cool story about the closer... during spring training, while doing a full runthrough... the sprinklers on the field came on at the very last hit of the show... it was freaking epic... our tour CD was titled summertime sprinkler fun... it was one of those moments you cant plan for, but man was it perfect

  • @d.o.a.c85
    @d.o.a.c85 2 роки тому +71

    The crown 2012 closer has some of the most insane drill and brass I have ever seen/heard

  • @jeffe_77
    @jeffe_77 3 роки тому +142

    2006 = 🤔 alright
    2007 = I see you Crown
    2008 = Oh damn
    2009 = Welcome to being Contenders
    2010 = Not going anywhere
    2011 = Brass Dynasty Begins
    2012 = Is this the year? Expectations
    2013 = Championship. Perfection in Brass

  • @DennisJohnsonDrummer
    @DennisJohnsonDrummer 3 роки тому +222

    I've always thought that if Crown had BD or SCV drums
    you'd have a winner every year. I remember Crown from
    it's infancy and man what a metamorphosis. (understatement)

    • @Spaciousbow3572
      @Spaciousbow3572 3 роки тому

      I think they had something similar to SCV or BD drums in 2016 (Relentless)? I could be wrong about that

    • @carson3370
      @carson3370 3 роки тому +17

      @@Spaciousbow3572 Nah it's the opposite, they scored 5/6th place in percussion in 2016. It's a shame too, there was only about a .6 spread from 3rd place to 1st place and with a slightly better drum line they easily could've taken silver or gold. They did win the captions for brass, color guard and visual though that year.

    • @j.s.2958
      @j.s.2958 3 роки тому +7

      There was a time where crown had a drumline nearly as killer as their hornline and that was in 2009. Their hornline placed 1st and their drumline placed 2nd. Don't really know why they've never had their drumline score up to that level again.

    • @prestonjones20013
      @prestonjones20013 3 роки тому +3

      Their Percussion was very good in 2009 getting 2nd. They’ve just recently gotten top tier again, placing 4th in 2017, 3rd in 2018, and 4th again in 2019. Although I’d argue 2019 should’ve been higher

    • @j.s.2958
      @j.s.2958 3 роки тому +4

      @@prestonjones20013 Yeah their drumline has been evening out with the hornline but their 2009 drumline was absolutely insane. One of the most overlooked lines of the century

  • @danagiles5100
    @danagiles5100 3 роки тому +20

    The first time I heard that 2013 opener I remember thinking "they clean that up, they win". And they did. Both. Bravo.

  • @vidalrodriguez2001
    @vidalrodriguez2001 3 роки тому +56

    Even that ‘02 line felt fuller than some recent years’ bottom half of top 12 hornlines ngl. There was some sauce✨✨

    • @danielgray3691
      @danielgray3691 3 роки тому +5

      Right, but technically not a Matt Harloff hornline. His first year was 2003.

  • @jerrysink424
    @jerrysink424 2 роки тому +28

    Crown won their first brass trophy in 1991’. I know, I was a mellophone in that line. We have been very consistent in brass over our existence

  • @radlikewhoa
    @radlikewhoa 3 роки тому +34

    First time I saw crown live was in 2008. That opening hit is legitimately one of the best opening hits of ALL time. My jaw couldn’t pick up off the ground the moment it started

    • @RussellKasem
      @RussellKasem Рік тому +2

      I was on the 2008 mellophone line and it was just as much fun to perform as it was to hear. Loved the 2008 season, the corps was experiencing so much growth.

  • @EvanYoungMusic
    @EvanYoungMusic 3 роки тому +59

    The final chord in 2012 what is the moment I realized no one can do any better because they sounded like a friggin pipe organ. Also my HS friend was the Drum Major

  • @michaelmeyer2725
    @michaelmeyer2725 3 роки тому +91

    I know this probably won't hold water, but the olde pharte in me would love to see Crown on a set of matched Kanstul G Bugles and watch them tear the paint off the walls of the stadium. It would be epic. Harloff would make that happen.

    • @disgustangy4901
      @disgustangy4901 3 роки тому +3

      Considering what I’ve heard about old DCI, yeah probably

    • @BayleeO-30
      @BayleeO-30 3 роки тому

      I literally said the same exact thing tonight lol… I remember watching their first Finals appearance… It was my first year in DCI.

    • @ez8308
      @ez8308 3 роки тому +4

      Possible. I marched BD on kanstul G.. and only a few corps could actually make G horns sound good while also tearing your face off. I sure miss G though lol

    • @alexkeele9502
      @alexkeele9502 Рік тому

      Although I haven't played g bugles many old heads I know have suggested that it wasn't per say the instrument making them louder compared to a Bb horn but disregard of tone, intunation, and clarity. Idk if that's true or not but wanted to ask

    • @treljaengo
      @treljaengo 10 місяців тому +1

      @@alexkeele9502Definitely no. G's just ring different and blow more freely. They had a different color that was truly unique and exciting to hear. They felt like "outdoor instruments." Bb's tend to be a bit stuffy and better suited to indoor venues. You can make terrible or great sounds on either.

  • @osutuba
    @osutuba Рік тому +5

    Not only has the hornline been in the midst of a dynasty, but their visual program has grown by leaps and bounds over the same time period!

  • @p1mplul576
    @p1mplul576 3 роки тому +28

    Oh damn this video is really new, i cant belive it, i thought originally i have no chance of finding new videos to carolina crown, cause im a big fan of them and im from Italy, but now is unfortunately corona time.. :D

  • @codywright2840
    @codywright2840 3 роки тому +24

    A true hornline dynasty that doesn’t look to end any time soon 😎

  • @avanderwolf49
    @avanderwolf49 Рік тому +3

    Matt Harloff joined the staff in 03 as their caption head and has done amazing things sense with Klesch as their arranger.

  • @nwmusic2010
    @nwmusic2010 3 роки тому +26

    2007 was the year I knew Crown would be a medal corps the following years.

  • @unknownunknown-wz2fg
    @unknownunknown-wz2fg Рік тому +3

    The fact that crown just kept getting better

  • @toddschultz3669
    @toddschultz3669 2 роки тому +2

    I remember watching them in Louisville in 2003, and could tell there was just something different. Show design, talent level, it was fun to watch.

  • @prestonjones20013
    @prestonjones20013 3 роки тому +7

    2008 was the year they fully hit their stride. And it showed

  • @agentpebble1094
    @agentpebble1094 Рік тому

    Nothing but respect for that hornline and corps as a whole. Just incredible what they can do!

  • @chip-chipper-chippest3581
    @chip-chipper-chippest3581 3 роки тому +34

    Carolina Crown's excellence in brass did not begin with Mr. Harloff, nor will it likely end with him.

    • @burdrchitect1680
      @burdrchitect1680 2 роки тому +10

      Well, I hope he stays at Crown! As a Blue Devil and Crown fan, I need Crowns staff to grow together just like the blue devils did. I'm ready for them to dominate.

  • @raketsu5
    @raketsu5 Рік тому +5

    They played Barber in 02 and the next year the drum major from 93 Star shows up. The rest is history.

    • @noclass2gun342
      @noclass2gun342 Рік тому +2

      not just matt... he brought his brother ben with him... when star became brass theater, ben was the trumpet soloist that came down from the ceiling in a chair. true story, the man can also belch in tune and on cue too... the little things you learn on tour

  • @aaronyow-wakingtera
    @aaronyow-wakingtera 3 роки тому +48

    Yeah, the 02 show was a bit dull imo. But doesnt mean the hornline was average. We were actually good. But I mean....I only marched it. Who am I to say otherwise right? Thanks man.

  • @michaelwatt9401
    @michaelwatt9401 Рік тому +8

    And in the next competitive season, 2022, they scored 19.8 on finals night for 1st place.

    • @DubABattery
      @DubABattery Місяць тому

      And then scored a 19.9 in brass the very next year at finals, 2023.

  • @joshsalmons1867
    @joshsalmons1867 Рік тому +6

    I remember when I was in high school 2002-06 our band director saying crown was an improving corps to try out for that was fairly close to home.

  • @groovester5095
    @groovester5095 3 роки тому +12

    7:49 LMAO

  • @brandonmathis1892
    @brandonmathis1892 Рік тому +3

    How in the world did a 19.2 in 2007 score 7th in brass that’s crazy

  • @bowoods4571
    @bowoods4571 3 роки тому +9

    ok I know this is a brass video but WHAT WAS THAT RIFLE TOSS 13:46

    • @danagiles5100
      @danagiles5100 3 роки тому +8

      Herbert Washington...DCI's first anti-aircraft gun...now the color guard guy with Boston. Two Zingali awards so he i just as good a teacher as performer would be my guess. Crown should never have let him go.

    • @danagiles5100
      @danagiles5100 3 роки тому +3

      Oops, three...he won one with Crown in 2016.

    • @diddle1675
      @diddle1675 3 роки тому +4

      @@danagiles5100 oh my gosh. Thank you. I remember seeing him in crown shows those years and was always amazed of his power and performance. I mean, dudes a absolute beast, its ridiculous.

    • @diddle1675
      @diddle1675 3 роки тому +2

      @@danagiles5100 well shit, no wonder why boston crusaders guard is just on an whole other level. Their design, abilities, everything. It makes so much sense now. They just killed it, I mean killed it this year.

  • @noclass2gun342
    @noclass2gun342 Рік тому +1

    8 of the last 13 jim ott awards... second only to the blue devils in total captions won at DCI world finals... if they could get the battery to be anywhere close to the brassline, they would smash BD records with ease

  • @DubABattery
    @DubABattery Місяць тому

    I know im like years late, but could you possibly show the placements of their brass each year?

  • @rancidnerd8624
    @rancidnerd8624 3 роки тому +7

    they were never average, even from the start

  • @noahhaseloff6180
    @noahhaseloff6180 3 роки тому +3

    What show is featured at the end when the more current scores are shown?

    • @E-Naut
      @E-Naut 3 роки тому +1

      That’s part of their 2010 show titled a second chance with the cream and orange uniform

  • @johnolson5538
    @johnolson5538 3 роки тому

    Buy the staff, the talent will follow. 20 minute video summed up for you.

  • @Randomname2908
    @Randomname2908 11 місяців тому

    I got jumpscared when 2010 came up because I had played Danzon before

  • @sriracha5524
    @sriracha5524 3 роки тому +2

    Which show is the ending slide audio from?

    • @jacobascher1816
      @jacobascher1816 3 роки тому

      e=mc²

    • @AndrewSzypula
      @AndrewSzypula 3 роки тому +3

      ending slide audio is from 2010, source material is Arturo Marquez's "Danzon No. 2"

  • @everydayshowday5151
    @everydayshowday5151 2 роки тому

    What year did crown make the jump to Div. I

  • @jimmykrutakofficial294
    @jimmykrutakofficial294 3 роки тому +4

    03 sounded out of tune compared to the others

  • @loganhunt6307
    @loganhunt6307 2 роки тому +1

    couldve sworn they had a 19.8 in 2017? or am i mistaken

    • @Sforzando_DCI
      @Sforzando_DCI  2 роки тому +6

      They received a 19.8 in Prelims and Semifinals but in finals they received a 19.6.
      I used finals scoring to stay consistent

    • @loganhunt6307
      @loganhunt6307 2 роки тому

      @@Sforzando_DCI ah ok

    • @DubABattery
      @DubABattery Місяць тому

      2016 also scored a 19.6 in brass at finals. 2016 and 17 should have been 19.8 if you asked me

  • @Kthebasement
    @Kthebasement Рік тому

    2002 looks like a rendering

  • @ThisisTechie
    @ThisisTechie Рік тому +1

    2014 is pretty good if the Blue Devils didn’t just wipe everyone else off though.

    • @DubABattery
      @DubABattery Місяць тому

      The thing about Crown's brass that year is that it didn't even fall off. Crown was 2nd in brass with a 19.7 to BD's 19.8

  • @DubABattery
    @DubABattery Рік тому

    2:32

  • @billthorn1604
    @billthorn1604 3 роки тому

    For me it’s crown ‘05 & ‘06

    • @noclass2gun342
      @noclass2gun342 Рік тому

      06 was a fun show... at least from the field it was...

  • @patricksloan4324
    @patricksloan4324 3 роки тому +24

    Man, what a backhanded headline. Not sure I'd go around calling any world-class DCI lines mediocre, you know they won a number of brass titles in Div II right? Looks like somebody has a mediocre number of subscribers.

    • @sarredjozzi9281
      @sarredjozzi9281 3 роки тому +39

      Maybe I’m out of the loop, but I see no mention of the word “mediocre”. I do see “average” however, which if we’re discussing score, is an appropriate assessment. And btw this channel has more subscribers than you do... so cool your jets pal.

    • @patricksloan4324
      @patricksloan4324 3 роки тому +2

      @@sarredjozzi9281 You are out of the loop. He edited the title based on feedback this received in Reddit. He was a real gentleman about it and only meant well. I am not a channel, so you comparison is idiotic.

    • @sarredjozzi9281
      @sarredjozzi9281 3 роки тому +24

      @@patricksloan4324 Ahh ok. Thank you for informing me. I am glad to see the owner of the video is respectful and can take criticism from the reddit overlords. If only you had meant as well as the owner did, and behaved like a gentleman... you know... instead of pointing out his number of subscribers, which is something little kids do. And if he only meant well, why does your original comment exist?

    • @patricksloan4324
      @patricksloan4324 3 роки тому +1

      @@sarredjozzi9281 Because I interacted with him after the fact, and your erroneous conflation of my maturity with my commentary, misses the point completely, that the owner really isn't in a place to slap labels like that on anything. But I guess we all have to armchair quarterback. I'll conclude with that as I don't want to poorly represent my actual drum corps. But go ahead, keep trying to mediate something you don't know anything about.

    • @ethannelson7235
      @ethannelson7235 3 роки тому +16

      Patrick over here knows how to use big words

  • @ar.458
    @ar.458 3 роки тому +4

    I believe the mediocre comment, if it were coming from Harloff. That guy is verbally abusive to a degree that it surprises me he's still on staff.

    • @Spinsane94
      @Spinsane94 3 роки тому +22

      Details?

    • @LowkeyMG1
      @LowkeyMG1 3 роки тому +5

      Huh? context please?

    • @jbone8315
      @jbone8315 3 роки тому +1

      But he wins so your point is

    • @ssrushforth
      @ssrushforth 3 роки тому +3

      @@jbone8315 winning isn't an excuse to be abusive

    • @burdrchitect1680
      @burdrchitect1680 2 роки тому +1

      @@ssrushforth My parent whipped my butt and I came out great, no complaints. Now if physical harm is done thats a problem but I'm sure it's not. Our society has become sooo soft.

  • @redprinceofficial
    @redprinceofficial Рік тому

    Corps De Blatts lol😂