i know this is a little old but i must reply. Dancers? just run away and magnet to nullify them, but when it comes to sorcerers they just cant be countered with very much. so in my opinion sorcerers are much worse probably the worse enemy in the game lol.
I hate Dancers because you never know when they are gonna start glowing, but sorcerers have a weapon that is completely separated from their body and seems to think for itself, so when you have them under control with magnega for example, they still attack
@@ruledbyvenus2041 even without summons i didn't find him hard, all you need to do is switch conveyor belts wenever a heartless spanws because they will despawn
I personally just: summoned stitch, then when there were no sorcerers I spammed magnet thunder, and when there were sorcerers I went under the sorcerers after that I’d very carefully time my reflects. Also if you get stuck in the sorcerer’s super long wombo combo enter stitches limit. I’d also also recommend having three regular ribbons and I believe you can obtain the grand ribbon by this fight, if not then use a fourth ribbon (ribbons have a hidden feature of lowering physical and light damage by the same amount they lower elemental damage this makes it so you can survive both the dancer grab and dragoon spawn attack at full health).
I'm playing FM for the first time on ps4 and I just beat this after two days of being stuck on it and a lot of the strategy I was picking up like the thunder+reflect combo then genie final form with the sorcerers before I searched up on how people beat it, stitch for the first couple waves was the game changer and using magnet into final form genie for the second half. I screamed when I finally beat this because this was the first fight I genuinely felt like I couldn't beat. I can't wait to see what the data fights are like for me.
Very informative video, thanks for keeping it a single take with all the deaths. I appreciate seeing 'choke points' so I know when to prepare and focus the most.
I kinda feel lucky managing to win this at first try with no strategy, just mashing x, using magic and forms, pretty much using almost everything that I disposed of lmao
I have done it at my glide level 2 and my quick run level 2 and my high jump level 2 there are a few tricks that you can actually do if you're going in the cavern of remembrance by simply using the reflect and keep on spamming it to simply get out of certain things like the first part.
I don't even know how I was able to beat this first try on master. I was level 60-something, still it was so damn hard. Can't even imagine doing this at lvl.1, I don't think with my skills back then I would've been able to pass it. Thank you for the video, this will definitely help if I even think of doing a lvl.1 run!
sometimes im jeoulous of ur ps4 load time compared to my ps3 but then i remember all the times taking 8 seconds to change forms has saved me especially with data marluxia😂
I honestly don't remember this fight being too ridiculous Took me a few tries maybe but it was definitely not a wall Thunder, magnet and Final/master form is your friend Reflect also
I was struggling rlly hard during the final inch of it with the nobody’s that had the pink blocks there were a lot of them and I barley had drive so I was just going in and out of drives so J could get health and mp and would be constantly healing and Donald ended up actually healing me. I barley made it
I just did this room recently... goodness I hate it. I used Wisdom Form while doing Firaga, Thundaga, and Magnega. Almost the same strat ;p Wisdom Form because I got to move while doing spells, but mostly because I liked the color blue haha
This is crazy hard on critical On second wave when you enter this place. The one before this. Its wild how even if your doing well if one happens to hit you at the right time one hit dead and im level 58. Im going to try the magnet and reflect and thunder method. Usually i just go in raw and battle . I should block more too
I tried this strat in my run but it just did not work when the Sorcerers started showing up. The fact that the red cubes keep attacking even when the main body is stuned was awful. Pair that with the Dancers and it just wasn't working. I ended up getting through by just using Final Form. Edit: Honestly never thought of using Genie.
As somebody who did this fight on level 1 crit on PS4 and is doing it again on PC I can safely say this room shows the flaws of 2FM level 1 like no other fight in the game. It’s about 30% skill and 70% luck with sorcerer attacks and when enemies die during genie’s limit, determining when the others spawn. Absolutely insane lmao
It’s not luck based I’ve seen this fight be done no damage and when I did the fight every single death I had was my mistake, but it is extremely unforgiving.
@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime I think there is a SLIGHT luck factor as to whether or not you get the enemy spawns you need when doing specific strategies, especially the genie one.
@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime Well yes the spawns are the same each time but whenever you’re doing the genie strat there’s a chance that you’ll kill one right as “Infinity” ends, meaning another might spawn immediately as you leave the summon and kill you before you’re out of the animation. It happened to BB in this video and it’s totally possible. I love 2FM LV1 crit to death but it definitely isn’t perfectly designed lol
@@JackisJack_ I never used that strat so it seems to just be an issue with that strategy. I just used stitch the whole time and spammed reflect on the sorcerers which is consistent as long as you’re careful and keep track of the enemies around you. Also ribbons make it so sorcerers are the only thing that can one shot you from full health in this fight.
You are amazing man, thanks a lot for the tutorial. I'm trying it at level 45, how different is it doing it at level 45 as opposed to level 1? Those dancers still one shot me as well as the dragoons, also I don't seem to have much more hp than you(I have 60), probably my damage output, defence and mp are better though.
CoR is at Battle Level 99, you might as well be level 1 for the most part. Also, level does not affect your HP or MP, that's attributed to Bonus Level, as certain bosses or events give you bonuses specific to them (such as HP from Twilight Thorn). You won't start noticing a real difference for level until around level 70, and I know this because he has explained how the game scales damage.
CoR battle level depends on where you are; the first area is 35, the conveyor belt is 55, the Nobodies are 75. Only Data Org. is 99. (I mean, it's not like it matters at level 1, but I just wanted to point that out.)
hardest fight in the game imo, the ability to surivive dancer grabs and dragoon lunges with ribbons is super useful (especially when they're mixed in with sorcerers)
Stitch can randomly recover MP when he feels like it. And yes this means that you can have practically infinite MP and that alone makes him kinda broken.
Was up till 3 am almost 4 trying to do this even though I've done it before. This is he**😭. I suck at this game ( I beat the base game at lvl 1 ) can't even beat this cavern at level 50.
The opposite. Them and other games will come out IN THE SPAN of three years. So as things are now they'll be released anytime during 2018, 19, 20 and no further. I swear that Matsuda comment was twisted so much.
How do you get lower than level 1..? Or do you really think that you're such a badass and not an insecure loser who has nothing better to do than brag about things he never actually did?
@@blackghostcat: maybe, this was forever ago though lol admittedly i was mad about getting my shit wrecked hard by dancers... _shivers_ those things still haunt me at least when i don't have any MP
Dancers are the bane of my Lv1 existence.
even on normal playthrough they are fucking annoying.
i know this is a little old but i must reply. Dancers? just run away and magnet to nullify them, but when it comes to sorcerers they just cant be countered with very much. so in my opinion sorcerers are much worse probably the worse enemy in the game lol.
I hate Dancers because you never know when they are gonna start glowing, but sorcerers have a weapon that is completely separated from their body and seems to think for itself, so when you have them under control with magnega for example, they still attack
Cynder fuck sorcerers
Sorcerers are the reason I'm here managed to figure out all the rest of the enemies but they can attack while stunned and instant kill you
This fight is hell. Even if you aren't level 1. Even if you know what to do.
I'd say it's harder than most bosses on the game
gustavo pinto it’s harder than any main story boss fight that isn’t Oogie boogie
@@ruledbyvenus2041 i've always found oogie to be easy
gustavo pinto ya he’s easy with summons, but I was doing a crit run without Summons and let’s just say it wasn’t fun
@@ruledbyvenus2041 even without summons i didn't find him hard, all you need to do is switch conveyor belts wenever a heartless spanws because they will despawn
I personally just: summoned stitch, then when there were no sorcerers I spammed magnet thunder, and when there were sorcerers I went under the sorcerers after that I’d very carefully time my reflects. Also if you get stuck in the sorcerer’s super long wombo combo enter stitches limit. I’d also also recommend having three regular ribbons and I believe you can obtain the grand ribbon by this fight, if not then use a fourth ribbon (ribbons have a hidden feature of lowering physical and light damage by the same amount they lower elemental damage this makes it so you can survive both the dancer grab and dragoon spawn attack at full health).
I'm playing FM for the first time on ps4 and I just beat this after two days of being stuck on it and a lot of the strategy I was picking up like the thunder+reflect combo then genie final form with the sorcerers before I searched up on how people beat it, stitch for the first couple waves was the game changer and using magnet into final form genie for the second half. I screamed when I finally beat this because this was the first fight I genuinely felt like I couldn't beat. I can't wait to see what the data fights are like for me.
Very informative video, thanks for keeping it a single take with all the deaths. I appreciate seeing 'choke points' so I know when to prepare and focus the most.
Thank you for this! I finally beat this fight. I never realized how powerful magnet -> Final Genie is.
I spammed magnet and thunder for everything but the sorcerers, where I spammed reflect
I had stitch out of course
Saaaaaame! I was lvl 50
Same
Finally beat it thanks to this video. Almost gave up on this fight for LV1. You’re a god among men BB!
Great Vid. I was using Decisive Pumpkin thinking Combo Boost would benefit me more but Rumbling Rose Finishing Plus is much more utilitarian
great guide! I know your streams for about one year, but I'm still impressed how good you are.
I'll be completely honest that third fight took me about like 30 times to beat lvl 1
Dude I've been trying to do it for the last 6 months its so annoying to me i was able to beat lingering will no damage lvl 1 way faster then this
You're so f***ing skilled it took me like 50 tries until now .... and I still haven't beaten it
Dude shut up no one effing cares
I used chicken little, put on fenrir and just wait till chicken little gathers them, Vincinity break and then explosion and it works
I kinda feel lucky managing to win this at first try with no strategy, just mashing x, using magic and forms, pretty much using almost everything that I disposed of lmao
Funfact: it was also the funniest battle that I had in kh2
@@andrymystere Funnest or funniest?
@@stupickles5436 funniest
Coso del tubo what difficulty?
@@ruledbyvenus2041 What mode?
I have done it at my glide level 2 and my quick run level 2 and my high jump level 2 there are a few tricks that you can actually do if you're going in the cavern of remembrance by simply using the reflect and keep on spamming it to simply get out of certain things like the first part.
do it on lvl 1
It's an awesome tutorial. But the voice audio keeps cutting out.
I don't even know how I was able to beat this first try on master. I was level 60-something, still it was so damn hard.
Can't even imagine doing this at lvl.1, I don't think with my skills back then I would've been able to pass it.
Thank you for the video, this will definitely help if I even think of doing a lvl.1 run!
commenting so this gets put higher up in the search results because holy shit I needed this
sometimes im jeoulous of ur ps4 load time compared to my ps3 but then i remember all the times taking 8 seconds to change forms has saved me especially with data marluxia😂
Juanathan Fabio i
Same here except I'm loading 2FM via a USB on my PS2.
I honestly don't remember this fight being too ridiculous
Took me a few tries maybe but it was definitely not a wall
Thunder, magnet and Final/master form is your friend
Reflect also
Ruxis this fight is only hard the first 10 times u do it. Then it’s easier after u know how to play it
Were you playing crit lv 1?
Man this fight is all the challenges with none of the fun, I just wanna fight roxas again
I was struggling rlly hard during the final inch of it with the nobody’s that had the pink blocks there were a lot of them and I barley had drive so I was just going in and out of drives so J could get health and mp and would be constantly healing and Donald ended up actually healing me. I barley made it
yo your like the best kingdom hearts channel you give helpful advice in kingdom hearts level 1 guide and I really appreciate it thank you so much
Omg bl00dy i love you! I am STRUGGLING on the 3rd battle thx so much!
I just did this room recently... goodness I hate it. I used Wisdom Form while doing Firaga, Thundaga, and Magnega. Almost the same strat ;p Wisdom Form because I got to move while doing spells, but mostly because I liked the color blue haha
i could have used this video like a month ago i stuggled through this shit for like a week
This got me the clear at level 50. Shit hurts, thanks for the guide!
This is crazy hard on critical
On second wave when you enter this place. The one before this. Its wild how even if your doing well if one happens to hit you at the right time one hit dead and im level 58. Im going to try the magnet and reflect and thunder method. Usually i just go in raw and battle . I should block more too
I tried this strat in my run but it just did not work when the Sorcerers started showing up. The fact that the red cubes keep attacking even when the main body is stuned was awful. Pair that with the Dancers and it just wasn't working. I ended up getting through by just using Final Form.
Edit: Honestly never thought of using Genie.
Dude I have been using your exact strat all this time xD
Except that I do have ground combo pluses for reflect
pls bloody can you re do your KH2Fm speedrun tutorial
As somebody who did this fight on level 1 crit on PS4 and is doing it again on PC I can safely say this room shows the flaws of 2FM level 1 like no other fight in the game. It’s about 30% skill and 70% luck with sorcerer attacks and when enemies die during genie’s limit, determining when the others spawn. Absolutely insane lmao
It’s not luck based I’ve seen this fight be done no damage and when I did the fight every single death I had was my mistake, but it is extremely unforgiving.
@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime I think there is a SLIGHT luck factor as to whether or not you get the enemy spawns you need when doing specific strategies, especially the genie one.
@@JackisJack_ The same enemies spawn every time, I know cause I memorized them.
@@Thisisthegreatestatofalltime Well yes the spawns are the same each time but whenever you’re doing the genie strat there’s a chance that you’ll kill one right as “Infinity” ends, meaning another might spawn immediately as you leave the summon and kill you before you’re out of the animation. It happened to BB in this video and it’s totally possible. I love 2FM LV1 crit to death but it definitely isn’t perfectly designed lol
@@JackisJack_ I never used that strat so it seems to just be an issue with that strategy. I just used stitch the whole time and spammed reflect on the sorcerers which is consistent as long as you’re careful and keep track of the enemies around you. Also ribbons make it so sorcerers are the only thing that can one shot you from full health in this fight.
what's worse, this on level 1 or the data fights on level 1?
FUCK THIS FIGHT literally took me over an HOUR to do on lvl 1 practically broke my damn controller
Bloody is cute af low-key .. but yes good fkn tutorial these strats are awesome 🤩
chicken little is the goat
You are amazing man, thanks a lot for the tutorial. I'm trying it at level 45, how different is it doing it at level 45 as opposed to level 1? Those dancers still one shot me as well as the dragoons, also I don't seem to have much more hp than you(I have 60), probably my damage output, defence and mp are better though.
CoR is at Battle Level 99, you might as well be level 1 for the most part. Also, level does not affect your HP or MP, that's attributed to Bonus Level, as certain bosses or events give you bonuses specific to them (such as HP from Twilight Thorn). You won't start noticing a real difference for level until around level 70, and I know this because he has explained how the game scales damage.
CoR battle level depends on where you are; the first area is 35, the conveyor belt is 55, the Nobodies are 75. Only Data Org. is 99.
(I mean, it's not like it matters at level 1, but I just wanted to point that out.)
i cant even beat that room on proud
Yo I was just wondering if a run with no magic (I guess except reflect if you cant guard against some attacks) would be viable?
Rollersteaam If you're sane then don't bother fam
Lol you're gonna have a fully gray head of hair after you're through with that
I love you, BB.
I got stuck on the 2nd fight for a week. Oddly enough, I beat the 3rd fight on my first try.
Damnnn, on Level 1?
No. But my first time playing through final mix on critical.
Gotcha. 3rd Fight is usually a Level 1 wall. I never died to it either until Level 1
Aww. I feel less special.
Lol. kidding.
You're the goat thank you
This fight can be harder than some data battles
hardest fight in the game imo, the ability to surivive dancer grabs and dragoon lunges with ribbons is super useful (especially when they're mixed in with sorcerers)
Hi, at the start of the fight how did your mp recover so fast in the blink of an eye without using an item? At least I didn't see you using an item.
Stitch can randomly recover MP when he feels like it. And yes this means that you can have practically infinite MP and that alone makes him kinda broken.
And I still can't beat it at level 1 for several months now :(
I just went straight in, granted I was lvl 99 in critical. Took me about two tries and 15 minutes.
*cries in lvl62 not even in critical mode*
Was up till 3 am almost 4 trying to do this even though I've done it before. This is he**😭. I suck at this game ( I beat the base game at lvl 1 ) can't even beat this cavern at level 50.
Thank's Bizkit.
but thankcs man ur the best kingndsgdom hearts player and the best yutuber thancks grate video
Thank you
Yesss thank you.
keep ist up
This shit is driving me insane
Thank you!!!!
this is insane
1:30 actually not forever, 1 minute and 40 seconds
16:55
apparrently ff7 remake and kh3 both got delayed for at least 3 more years
#2020
The opposite. Them and other games will come out IN THE SPAN of three years. So as things are now they'll be released anytime during 2018, 19, 20 and no further.
I swear that Matsuda comment was twisted so much.
managed to beat them on my 1st try at lower level lol. I just kept on traversing through the cave without dying.
How do you get lower than level 1..? Or do you really think that you're such a badass and not an insecure loser who has nothing better to do than brag about things he never actually did?
D MAS who hurt you dude
D MAS chillllll
@@dmas7749 I think he meant lower than recommended level. Like 20 or 40 or some shit
@@blackghostcat: maybe, this was forever ago though lol
admittedly i was mad about getting my shit wrecked hard by dancers... _shivers_
those things still haunt me at least when i don't have any MP
Press X until everything dies and heal when your HP gets low?
if you play beginner sure lmao
Feylon Keldo Lol what do you think this is my dude
Feylon Keldo naic meme
this is a tutorial for level 1 (critical mode)... there is no "low" HP, if everything kills you with one or two hits :D
Feylon Keldo you obviously have not played this fight
Just me or his voice is choppy for everyone
First ;P