IMAX 4K Laser upgrade time-lapse, from 1570 2D - IMAX Theatre - Royal B C Museum
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2022
- RBCM Imax movie theatre Installation of dual 4K Laser system that replaced the film based 1570 2D system.
Royal B C Museum in Victoria.
#imax #4k #lazer #film #technology #imax70mmfilm #movie
#behindthescenes #timelapse #1570 #projector #inthebooth
#largeformat - Наука та технологія
These guys work incredibly fast! 15 minutes to do this conversion
Your guys are slower then mine.
It took less than 7 min her (@2x)!
Ho. Ho. Ho. 😁
😂😂😂
Would have been 15 seconds in China.
@@philipmcdonagh1094 10s just to make a clone to sell on alibaba.
This brings back memories -- I ran the two 1570 IMAX projectors at Universal Studios Hollywood for the Back to the Future ride. It used a loop cabinet instead of platters, and I'll never forget the chug-chug-chug sound of those projectors. They were installed in 1993 and decommissioned in 2007 when the ride was closed to convert to the Simpson's ride. They were certainly beasts! Man, those 4K lasers are massive!
The new COLA system is even bigger, but it has both lasers in one chassis.
I loved that ride, great memories
You sir are my hero! Loves that ride.
Omg, thx to share your experience sir!
biggest D'oh in universals history they should have kept the bttf ride
I am a longtime former IMAX 15/70 projectionist (1996-2016). I knew Paul Wild, the former director of this theater. I will be visiting this theater on July 20 to see “Ireland”. Hope to be able to see the booth with its laser system. Thanks for this great video.
What an incredible look into the behind-the-scenes!
This is so interesting I didn’t imagine theater projector were this big love it love the video
Normal (35mm) film projectors are roughly half this size. The film is half as wide, about a third of the length, and it runs about a third as fast as this.
Man, as someone in an engineering field. This was interesting to watch! A buddy who worked in a small time movie theatre always raved about how much fun he had as a projectionist!
Very interesting video. Despite everything , still the disappearance of the film . Technically, Imax 70/15 is superior in quality to digital projection. Same thing for 35mm and 2K. Everything has been done to make it less expensive for the studios and exhibitors. Really a pity, but film is not dead. It remains the best quality in capture and especially in permanent backup.
I am not against there being digital theaters to bring down costs and to make it easier for movies to be shown but the theaters should also offer a special experience.
So that should mean that film is offered as well to customers for for the big special movies. I would have prefered to have seen Dune on 35mm film than on digital. The same for Top gun. I am not talking about the cameras in terms of film but celluloid projection so the movies could still be shot on digital cameras.
15/70 IMAX DMR = 18K
I was about to say, this is more of a "downgrade" video
I love the screen centipede (9:45)
bring out all the able bodied men.
Wow that wall was so neatly disassembled.
Took the opportunity to cut a hole in the wall and didn't add an access door!
I'm glad to see we're still using good old fulcrum and lever to move high tech lasers.
Pyramids explained, was no big deal after all.
Why add an access door?
@@kaspernbs To clean the outside of the windows without having to use scaffolding.
@@philipmcdonagh1094 but it’s outdated technology I’m sure somebody saying we shouldn’t be using it.
Watching the workers carry the new screen from delivery truck to hoisting it into place was a feat in itself. The whole conversion was a feat! I hope the retired projectors, or at least one of them, could go on permanent display in a museum or other appropriate venue for the public to see.
Awesome video, it was really cool to see some behind the scenes stuff. Although I must say, it'll be a sad day when at the end of a video like this we'll see our last 15/70 projectionists period.
Got to see Similar IMAX laser projector system in Kiev mall theater complex. Amazing!
Awsome timelapse :)
amazing thank you for showing us how its done
This is really cool to see!
this is amazing!! Thanks for sharing!
Half expected to see all the speakers behind the screen taken down and replaced with a comically large soundbar.
70mm to 4K? That sounds like a downgrade to me.
Its 8k...two 4 k projectors ....but 70 mm clarity is super..
@@anoopjose6208 Ha! The source is 4k and most imax movies aren’t even shot in 4k anymore anyway. The entire imax laser system is incapable of playing back 8k media. The 2nd projector is only used to soften the image slightly so you can’t see the pixels. It’s also used for 3D which is a dead thing anyway. When Imax sold its soul to millionaires seeking to make money, the format died. There is no better quality format than 15 perf 70mm. Resolution is upwards of 12k at the print. It died due to IMAX not having anything to charge their theaters for since the film projectors were bullet proof. So make a new format that requires constant updating, charging theaters millions of dollars every few years to update, way more then the salary of projectionists and dilute the format so it’s nothing special. Then charge 2x the ticket price. It worked for a while but it’s not working anymore. Now everyone regrets getting rid of their film projectors and to top it off IMAX is making new film cameras. The battle for film is not over yet.
@@CinemaRepository i think Dolby Cinema is better than IMAX now
@@anoopjose6208 Dolby vision has horrible aliasing issues. IMAX 4k laser does not.
I like vhs tapes better
Kind of amazing to think they got this all done in an afternoon
Congratulations on the big upgrade! This is a fantastic video.
Loading a new reel just got ridiculously easy: Drives out. Drives in. Arrow, arrow, arrow.... space bar.
It’s not a upgrade but a big downgrade 😢
Great work!!!
70mm to 4k sounds like a downgrade but 4k laser offers better contrast, hdr, & wider color gamut that 70mm film projection can't offer. Sacrificing image resolution & detail for better color quality is still worth it.
Edit: the resolution of dual laser projection was actually 6k.
its not imax then is it... its just the usual crappy cinema quality
Not even close. 4K still have picture issue unless the moviemaker do it right way.
@@srijangupta6404 UA-cam comment section is not the place to ask for advice like this.
@@srijangupta6404 Measure your viewing distance. Assuming you're going for 4K, that should be your screen size. Halve it for 1080p, double it for 8K.
Getting the best picture quality out of a projector requires good light control. Basically, nothing at all should be shining on the screen other than the projector itself. Not only do you need to block any windows and make sure there are no other light sources in the room, the room also needs to be black to prevent light coming from the screen from reflecting back onto it.
@@KingdaToro @Adam Ahmed yes, we have hired an engineer, he suggested that we should get some dark acoustic panels, to control the ambient light, but i think that wouldn't be needed if i buy tv
Uffffff, the sound, the dual laser projectors, the screen, the sides of reels.
from Conventional IMAX to this.
Ohhhhh my God all is huge.
I just hope this technology dwindles just like IBM's Fortran computers did.
I knew the projectors themselves were huge and looked somewhat like this, but holy crap there's like 17 million other giant components to a movie theatre I never realized were there. Like the speakers behind the screen... how do those not cause a resonation or ripple effect on the screen? And the physical storage banks and hard drive servers sheesh. The generator or transformer or inverter or whatever it was... Also wonder how much heat these units must put out.
The screen is what's called "acoustically transparent", it's full of tiny holes, too small to see from the seats, that let the sound through. You can see them if you walk right up to it. The thing that puts out the most heat by far is the actual lamp (lightbulb) for the projector, as it uses at least 5000 watts. Its heat is exhausted out through the roof, similar to a clothes dryer. The IMAX lamps are 15000 watts, and have to be water-cooled, air cooling isn't enough.
@@KingdaToro detailed and very interesting, thank you!
@@KingdaToro
Imagine what IMAX could do with 35mm film if they really put their minds to it. They could probably have really exotic processes like using laser light sources for the film projectors.
If IMAX, Kodak and a few other players got together they could probably do some really special things with 35mm film for large scale special theater showings.
Customer : How many speakers you plan to install ?
Company : YES.
Thanks for sharing Hugh! Rennie and I are here to the bitter end. Looks like a shut down is imminent for January 2023, we had a great run!!
Dun dun dun.. this comment didn’t age well did it 🤣
@@robinx6243 Aged long enough for my liking. Got any more comments on High Tech, Government and life in the real world?
@@jasonst-louis7849 yes, how good was I on the bass guitar.
@@robinx6243 STrange! That you!"?? You brought out my inner Troll. Was going to suggest you have a seat with Statler and Waldorf in the upper left balcony along with all the other Muppets!
@@jasonst-louis7849 Strange indeed 🤣
excelente video, la magia del cine
The sound system upgrade is truly massive, even when only showing a 6-channel mix like Chris Nolan flicks. Seeing Dunkirk in both IMAX 1570 and then IMAX GT Laser...wow! The 1.43:1 GT Laser screening, the sound was freaking huge! Deeper, clearer, better.
The screen is 85x61 feet...
In reference to a living room TV of 65", that's the equivalent of a 1,159" TV.
You know, its a shame to see 70mm film being phased out in Theatre like this :(
35mm film projection is still far more impressive than any digital theater projector. And there would not be any cost difference between them.
awesome view! hope to see if they offer dual media viewing.
I like how you kept the old Projektor. ^^
They almost did
I saw Oblivion in that theatre, I'll never forget.
I love it. It hurts me a little when people watch blockbusters on their phones.
To be fair, the quality on a phone with a 1440p OLED screen is better than the TVs most people can afford in 2022 and far better than the crappy low-budget cinemas we have here.
@@leblueawoo high end TVs are cheaper than ever saying people can’t afford it is a load of bullshit. Look at CPI, inflation is making literally everything in life unaffordable but ooh consumer technology is getting cheaper!! Cheap TVs!! Yay!!
@@DualReaver11 My phone cost about £400. Good luck buying an OLED TV for that much unless you want it upside down and made of paper.
@@leblueawoo i can buy a 65 inch OLED tv At my local electronics retailer for
@@DualReaver11 At what point did I mention having a $1000 phone? £400 is about $500.
Of course you can buy an OLED TV for under $1000, but the cheapest ones are still nowhere near as cheap as a cheap phone with the same type of screen.
That’s a lot of work
That LFE section seems so underpowered. We have 8 double 18" Subs+2 single 18" on the walls for a 200 seat theater and it could still be more power. Can't imagine how that few stacks can adequately fill such a huge auditorium.
IMAX theaters should really have a rotary woofer as standard equipment. Ordinary subwoofers fall off sharply below 20 Hz, rotaries are the only thing that can effectively cover the 0-20 Hz range.
@@KingdaToro I'll paypal you 1000$ if you find me a woofer that can produce 0hz
@@julianklietz6558 As I said, a rotary woofer. It's a subwoofer that uses a rotating fan, instead of a cone, to move air. Like this: ua-cam.com/video/E7Bkrypxzs4/v-deo.html
The pitch of the fan's blades is controlled by an ordinary subwoofer voice coil, so they pitch back and forth, and push air into and out of the listening room, according to the audio signal. They're able to effortlessly cover the entire 0-20 Hz range because the fan makes more revolutions per cycle of the audio signal as the frequency drops. If you were to feed DC (0 Hz) to an ordinary subwoofer, the cone moves in or out and stays there doing nothing. If you were to feed DC to a rotary woofer, the fan's blades would pitch one way or the other and stay there, and the fan would constantly push air into or pull air out of the room. So, yes, it can indeed do 0Hz.
It's all about excursion. That's the distance through which a speaker can move, and it's what limits normal subwoofers to about 20Hz. But with a rotary, the "excursion" isn't the distance the cone can move, but rather how far the fan can turn during each cycle of the audio signal. At 20 Hz it will only do about half a revolution, but at 1 Hz it'll do 13 revolutions. The effective excursion increases as the frequency decreases, which is exactly what you want in a subwoofer. And at 0 Hz, it has effectively infinite excursion.
@@KingdaToro It can produce a 0hz tone?
@@julianklietz6558 Yes. A sound wave is just air moving back and forth at a certain frequency. A 0Hz "tone" is just air moving in one direction continuously. Of course it can do that.
The screen being delivered is hilarious
Bet they wish they had kept the 1570 capability with the Oppenheimer hype now
I noticed in the video that they still left the 70mm IMAX projector there and tested it to work with the new screen. I don’t think they replaced the 70mm projector, just installed an additional digital IMAX projector. I’m guessing they left the old one in place for those rare occasions when they are sent a film printed in genuine 70mm IMAX, probably by Christopher Nolan giving them a hard time.
You didn’t watch to the end did you? The 2k projectors were temporary. In 2016 they removed their film projector to make room for the huge downgrade of a 4k system (70mm film is approx 18k resolution and the difference is *very* visible at IMAX screen sizes)
HUGE!
Cool
12:22 I like how the vacuum has the IMAX logo
Someone just wrote IMAX on it with a sharpie.
lmao
Loading in the screen reminded me of 1920s silent comedies. Just needed some appropriate music.
I played "Flight of the Bumblebee's" in another window. It was appropriate :)
This was not a minor upgrade... New 4K Laser Systems, remodel, new seating, probably fresh coat of paint in restrooms, new snack bar, etc. Very impressive. I can't wait to see the new and improved IMAX. One thing that always amazed me was the size of the film on 1570 system. 70mm not big enough, lets supersize it to 15 perforation.
I used to think my 35mm was big, twice that is big, 15 perf is really big. I have actually used film cameras in the past that used large film. My Hasselblad used 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 inch film. My Mamiya used 2 1/4 x 2 3/4 inch film. My Calumet studio view camera used 4 x 5 inch film. I wish I had a chance to use a 8 x 10 inch studio view camera.
You're right, it wasn't a minor upgrade, it was a major downgrade. IMAX film is roughly 12K-16K, and they're going from that to 4K.
@@KingdaToro Thank you for input. Is there better IMAX digital available?
@@SJR_Media_Group We don't yet have any digital system capable of projecting IMAX resolution, so digital IMAX does not exist yet.
@@KingdaToro OK, thank you. Hard to beat something that is near perfect. Is digital cheaper to shoot, store, and play than 1570?
@@SJR_Media_Group Yes, by far. IMAX is hard to use, the cameras are so loud that dialogue can't be recorded on set. The film is expensive, the cost of a single release print is somewhere in the five figure range, to say nothing of the film stock needed for a shoot. But the point is, when you buy an IMAX ticket, the premium you're paying is going toward all that. "IMAX Digital" is purely a scam, because the studio and theater are just pocketing it instead.
I couldn't even guess as to what a project like this costs the theater. They got a freaking rappelling team lol
The old film PJ would be getting a run now with Oppenheimer!
For those complaining about 4K... 8K is coming to most venues soon enough... I'd say 5 years before most commercial venues are upgraded to that standard... And if it weren't for COVID it would have been commercially rolled out by now...
there's literally no difference between 4k and 8k on it's quality.
@@miles5600 It absolutely will. It's all about the ratio of screen size and viewing distance. To see any difference, your viewing distance needs to be closer than the diagonal screen size. To see the full benefit of 8K, it needs to be half the diagonal screen size. In a proper IMAX theater, all the seats fall within this range.
@@KingdaToro 8k tv are already around and have been for a couple of years. Also you can now get Imax home cinemas
they had the downtime to make the upgrades, but they didnt. like restaurants that needs full refurbishment
Also, 4k in theaters is not the same resolution as 4k televisions
@10:08 "Parkour, PARKOUR!!" 😂
9:48 Teamwork 👌
wow so thats how they get up there
Yet, most around me say that working at a cinema doesn't secure your future. Without us or them there wouldn't be any cinema. An interesting look, though! Now, I know why every time there's a problem with my cinema's projector it would take them a very long time to fully fix everything.
This was very interesting thanks for the video. This seems like it was probably very expensive. Is IMAX and 3D profitable enough to justify the investment? Either way, this video was very fascinating thanks for sharing.
In the big cities yes. The main problem is the lack of content for the cinema that would attract people. Hollywood simply is not producing movies like they used to. The Oscars is a prime example of that were TV movies are not starting to dominate the awards.
70mm still runs at our hometown cinema
Wow
SRB
itt looks like a good project / ...just stopping through
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Essa é uma bela TV de 1255 polegadas!
Thank you for the great video!
Despite some comments I don't think this is a downgrade. Operational overhead is way too big with the film. But, could analog imax give proper blacks like oled?
wow, just erecting the scaffolding is a massive project. it must have cost a fortune.
How many watts are the lasers?
What brand of filmscreen you using ?
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@@jasonst-louis7849 What Italian?
Pretty neat.
Amazing scale
nice work! . but the drywalling around the new projector without it being completely sealed off sorta made me sad .
What company welded the screen, is there a video on how they are made?
El hecho de que sea un proyector dual tiene que ver con la tecnologia 3D? uno para cada canal?
👍yes
Hope they checked the audio was in sync after all that work.
New 85 foot theatre screen arrives.
Home theatres hobbyists have left the chat..
*OSHA BREATHING HEAVY @ **10:00*
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Im curious about the movie physical support. Or its a network stream?
0's and 1's in other words crap.
So are those speakers behind the screen or something else
Could we maybe have some voice over dictation or something? I mean the project is cool but it leaves me wanting more
3:55
are those the screen holders? also what's the screen made out of?
They are screen shakers and they cause the screen to vibrate a little to reduce the hotspot (glittering effect) on a silver screen. Without screenshakers that screen would look like a Twilight vampire.
@@andreasvogler1875 omg! this makes so much sense. we went to a cheap movie theatre once and it had this glitter effect. I was like WTF. Not only that, but the entire movie was pretty dim. Terrible experience. However, for the price, I guess you get what you pay for.
Lie-Max is the new name.
Speaker custom or brand?
cool 7015 is still possible!
noooo I want to see Interstellar on Imax 70mm again someday...lol
No wonder AMC IMAX movies are so expensive.
I'm just curious... How do you upgrade, I mean like you call Imax and go like hey we have the bucks and wanna upgrade? Like who are the contractors, what does the Imax provide and so on?
IMAX stands for maximum image, the largest screen possible with the highest resolution possible. To upgrade doesn’t necessarily mean technically a better image, open to debate, but rather a more economic mix of present technology to maintain a business into the future.
Screen is biggest than futuroscope?(Kinemax-600m²)
Sydney IMAX had a 1000m² screen size and it was the world's largest cinema screen. I went to it a few times and it had the most impressive screen image you could ever imagine.
70mm IMAX to 4k is kinda inarguably a downgrade in quality. Big upgrade in convience of course.
for everyone except the patrons seeing as ticket prices are the same. (including "inflation")
The problem with 70mm IMAX was that they simply did not have that many movies to show on it so it meant it was a niche market.
If the studios and IMAX and maybe other theaters had of focused on 70mm imax and standard 65mm they could have saved their industry.
Are you building new theatre
I have a old imax projector lying around still don't know what to do with that big boy
Have they kept the 15/70 machine or did they get rid of it?
Hi, I left after the 4K Laser was installed, at that time all the 1570, support equipment and film library were still in the booth but not in use. This was over six years ago, with it all just sitting and the Laser fully engaged, I would say there are many reasons 1570 will never be seen again at this theatre.
Sad. Laser still doesn't look as good as 70mm and there's a lot of 70mm footage thag won't be remastered for laser.
An experience lost to time for no good reason. They already had it setup to swap between 70mm smd xenon, just keep that and show 70mm where applicable.
They wouldn’t just throw it out. Right?
@@robertforster8984 seems they get moved to the side, slow making it harder to bring back up. After years of non use too much maintenance needed to use again. Then it'll be sold off/disposed of to free up space.
@@robertforster8984 Most do.
It's ironic - in a bad way - that a video entitled IMAX 4K Laser has a max res of just 720p.
And is it only for me that there is no sound?
@@pedro_8240 Video was uploaded without audio, apparently.
It’s time lapse!
@@HughDenbigh Not even a catchy jingle in the background, though?! Hehehe ;)
@@OldBonesCreative
Next time you watch it you can hum!
is this a bed room sauna box?
So 8k?
Very cool to see the transformation! What about approximately is the new system cost?
At least 15 000$ I would say .. 20 000 maybe ..
@@Miguelissimmo 1.5 million in 2016.
I wonder when movie theaters are gonna switch to modular OLED displays... it looks like a cheaper option to me, at least for installation and surely for maintenance
It would be very expensive to do that. The screens would end up costing millions.
These people can work really fast if it only took them 15 minutes!
its for avatar 2 :D
This film projector better not be in the dump for landfill
What does it mean "one of the worlds first, a 3D laser projection system" ? What about it is 3D?
How many upgrades may come 2k, 4k laser etc etc but no one can match the quality and resolution of 35mm And 70mm film print quality
Well your probably right, but you should realize that the reason for technology change is seldom about quality but rather economics. With that most people wouldn’t recognize differences or care how a image lands on the screen. If the subject is stimulating, everyone is happy, the money is made.
Where does the old things go
How much? I need one for my garage
Just a regular 1255-inch TV