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I think it would be cool if they went the Ninjago: Dragons rising route. Have the old characters become “mentors” to a new generation, so they can still appear but they aren’t the focus
Hell, Bionicle _already_ has a narrative mechanic in place to do exactly that - turn the Toa Nuva into Turaga. That would solve so many issues and while it wouldn't please _everyone_ (because for all the love and passion the Bionicle community expresses, we can be a very, very prickly bunch), it would appease the narrative issue of connecting the old series with the new series. On that note, too, in order to appease the purists who only care about new adventures of the Toa Nuva, making them Turaga would open up an opportunity to create a side series where they recount their adventures between series in webisodes or serialized web stories the same way Farshtey kept the story going back in the early 2010s before abandoning the serials to focus on Ninjago and Hero Factory full time.
The confirmed replicates are indeed from 2009-2011 sets, however....just maybe, some sketchy company out there might managed to create moulds for early bonkle stuffs
This "molds are dead" mindset is killing me. 13 Billion dollar net-worth from the year 2023 (Statista). THEY CAN MAKE NEW MOLDS. Reverse engineer the molds from the given parts. The 3d models exist, they have a vault with all the parts, they can get all the parts and make new molds. They need the urgency to do it.
@@anzullic They have the schematics to recreate the molds, even make them better with modern standards, they just dont want to cause they see no financial incentive for that.
I think repros is unlikely. LEGO actually throws out their old molds after they go unused for a few years so they'd basically have to make new identical (or near identical) molds for all of the old Toa stuff.
This "molds are dead" mindset is killing me. 13 Billion dollar net-worth from the year 2023 (Statista). THEY CAN MAKE NEW MOLDS. Reverse engineer the molds from the given parts. The 3d models exist, they have a vault with all the parts, they can get all the parts and make new molds. They need the urgency to do it. AT LEAST bring the Bionicle pieces and Hero Factory pieces to pick-a-brick.
@@anzullic I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying the straight up reproduction idea seems very unlikely. I think we could maybe see some of the more iconic old MASKS return, I'm not sure about other parts. I think it's more likely we could see a new system with the same mask designs but at a slightly different scale and different builds.
I wish they'd just hire a handful of crazy "I'm normal about Bionicle" superfans. The guys with the youtube channels that build crazy Bionicle sht to this day. Discussing with the pros how to approach this with the current brick portfolio without losing the spirit of original Bonkle. "Build a Bionicle from scratch with current parts" would be a fun challenge as long as it doesn't look like that crappy one they made a few years ago. Or just remake a handful of the old parts as new molds. I haven't played with a Bionicle in many many years but I remember that they used very distinct parts MANY times. No idea how these pieces are called, but like... the ball joints they always used for arms and legs for example.
I do believe the bionicle system will return, like a hero factory situation again but better handled, i l Ioved the world and story of bionicle but i do hope the toy system itself is given another life, anothe form, another story worth telling and hearing of
Hero Factory parts looked so generic. And so did the 2017 return of Bionicle. LEGO should be able to make even more complex molds today with the 3D rendering technology we have now. They could afford to make thousands of new molds back then, and can afford it now, and quicker and easier than ever and they should hopefully be more detailed than Hero Factory and 2017 Bionicle which was bland.
Well i hope dont domb down the story again like g2.... they domb so badly that target kids, the kids dont find it interesting..... bring back the dark edgy
Even though I’m a teenager, I still grew up on bionicles, and I was really into the 2016 edition. Once I think for my 8th bday I wanted a set, then I found out they discontinued, I have just been holding onto the sets that I have left but ended up making my own character with them. All I ask is for em to come back ❤
@@badatgamesguy5399Cost, maybe? They make hundreds of moulds every year, so destroying some old ones that they're positive won't come back makes sense
@@badatgamesguy5399 it cost more money keep a old mode in circulation than it is to destroy it also it would cost too much if they want to remake it with how Lego pieces work
All the diehard original fans would absolutely buy them, and I am certain it would introduce kids to the franchise in a way that would also be popular. Bionicle is now almost as old as Transformers was when the live action movies revitalized the brand. Currently, the majority of Transformers toys are being bought by adult collectors. That's a smaller market but it's one with enough dedicated fans that it's worth pursuing.
@@caok1010 the one where they release system sets that people actually want and the people who got into bionicle in 2006 and 2007 who say “sorry, but bonkles are action figures, not legos,” finally get eclipsed. Or alternatively a new idea: bionicle started as a TECHNIC line, so just release some colorful humanoid/animalistic technic sets, and there you go. Dont even have to call it bionicle. Maybe the setting is space or something. But that’s all it takes to recapture the chic of 2001 sets, colorful technic and a nice setting, and lego certainly has the color pallet today to do it.
The only part I can’t see happening at all is canisters. Lego is trying to remove plastics from their packaging, it would only come in a cardboard box and likely have paper parts bags.
In my opinion, LEGO should release at least some kind of anniversary set for the 25th anniversary of the series. A very good candidate would be the LEGO Ideas project, which is currently collecting votes on the website, and which is definitely not talked about enough in our community. I don't remember the name of the author of the MOC I'm talking about now, but the building itself is a diorama with palm trees, on which stand two figures built in 90% LEGO Technic bricks. I would like to see a official set containing at least the figures themselves, but instead of a diorama, we would receive recolors of all the colored bricks, so that when you buy one piece of the set, you get a black skeleton that can be covered with armor of any color, creating a Toa of fire, water, ice, etc. If you haven't come across this project yet, I recommend taking a look, because it's probably the closest thing that could reconcile the pool of bricks still being produced and the expectations of fans of the series.
i mean i think bionicle could make a good comeback. I think a part of the reason the 2015 reboot failed is that the market at the time was super saturated with other constraction figures that used the same skeletons and mostly the same parts. there were so many star wars sets that used the same skeletons and molds, and even the bionicle figures were mostly using the systems designed for hero factory. I think a new wave that used new parts, that had a good tv show could do really well, because even though lego currently has the big system based construction figures, if they go back to the ball joint and technic based system for bionicle, it will stand out pretty well.
I can’t see a reason (beyond money) why they can’t just remake the molds? There is no way they can’t do that….bionicle was all about taking a leap of faith and trying something new….it worked back then…and I’m willing to bet that if they just rereleased the classic bionicle set by set, year by year, that they would make their money….they would at least have my money
13 Billion dollar net-worth from 2023 (Statista). At the very least bring the Bionicle and Hero Factory parts to pick-a-brick. We need to stop asking and start demanding. LEGO can do it, and they can do it incrementally add one piece after the other.
I 100% agree with the “keep the mind open thing” I think that even if some people like it and some don’t we should still all show our support for the theme. One thing too is that I’d probably be fine with system bricks! They could probably make some really really cool stuff from it!!!
If LEGO will bring 2001 Kanohi and keep selling their recolors in Mata/Turaga/Metru colors, making the Toa body out of still produced bricks is pretty easy. Yeah, it requires a lot of bricks to recreate what was possible years ago for a single brick, but balljoints are still available. Technic bricks too ;)
4:37 Lego has sort of done this. Back in 2019 in certain Lego Star Wars sets, a minifigure from the first few years of Lego Star Wars was included. The only difference was a 20th anniversary logo printed on all of their backs.
i never undestood why LEGO is so adamant about destroying molds, meanwhile hasbro comes out wuith 20 year old transformers repros, including the pill bug noone even liked
This "molds are dead" mindset is killing me. 13 Billion dollar net-worth from the year 2023 (Statista). THEY CAN MAKE NEW MOLDS. Reverse engineer the molds from the given parts. The 3d models exist, they have a vault with all the parts, they can get all the parts and make new molds. They need the urgency to do it. AT LEAST bring the Bionicle pieces and Hero Factory pieces to pick-a-brick.
I’m not sure how true this is but I’ve heard it’s more financially viable to destroy moulds than keep them. For a company that has made an ungodly amount of unique elements over the years, that scans tbh
Replying to myself but I had a thought, hasbro is very beholden to what moulds they happen to find. Take that Beast Wars: Transformers reissue line from a few years ago. If they had better moulds, why would they EVER do nobodies like Retrax and Iguanus? We still don’t have a dinobot or rhinox!
Be that some one? I need LEGO to at least bring the Bionicle and Hero Factory pieces to pick-a-brick. This "molds are dead" mindset is killing me. 13 Billion dollar net-worth from the year 2023 (Statista). THEY CAN MAKE NEW MOLDS. Reverse engineer the molds from the given parts. The 3d models exist, they have a vault with all the parts, they can get all the parts and make new molds. They need the urgency to do it.
I also moved on to building Gunpla and other similar model kits. They're definitely not toys, and the barrier to entry is a fair bit higher, but they oh so scratch the itch!
The problem with a continuation is that the lore got way too complex and self-involved for new audiences to integrate with. Also the reason G2 failed is that Lego tried too hard to market it to both the original audience (who didn't want it because it wasn't the thing they had as kids) and expected said audience to market it to younger people in their lives.
I feel like the marketing must have been pretty bad for G2, because I was basically the new target audience (maybe a little younger than the target kids, but right about there) and I never new it existed until after it was discontinued
I actually am writing a book set 9000 years after the story finale. The first part is just a small adventure following the fire element main protagonist who finds Metus wanting the Mask of Time so he can revert to his Igorhi form instead of being a parasitic snake. In the next part, we will learn that something happened to break timelines and they need to find the Mask of Time again. Not sure what it possible third will be about.
What I'd love to see is something in the vein of Pokemon Generations kinda. Like, we get a g3 in some form, idc if it's a full reboot or a continuation, but we could still get iconic characters like the Toa Mata just so they're out there for the mainstream. But then we could also get side content related to g1. I'm a very visual person, and as much as I love the room for MOCs left by characters who didn't have official illustrated/built forms, I'd still love to have like, a proper version of Tuyet that I can buy, etc. So have a collectors line of these unreleased characters, and maybe an accompanying mini series covering lore that the movies didn't. Then it also offers something new for old fans to buy instead of just Toa repros.
Just put them in those colorful canisters, place them on those Target or Walmart shelves, and I will buy every single set with my credit card with the biggest and happiest smirk you will ever see. PLEASE LEGO HEAR US! LISTEN TO OUR CRY!
I think what I would like to see is two things: first, continue the story. Standard constraction builds of new characters with the same “pattern” of new heroes in the iconic canisters and assorted villains, little dudes, and masks. That was a winning formula for a reason. Maybe spice it up a little, we see toa of psionics and gravity and such in the lore but we’ve never had official retail sets of the more obscure “elements.” Second, I think bionicle should revisit titan sets, and they should go HAM with it. Furthermore, they should do revamped versions of older characters. I was but a tiny baby in the ancient prehistoric years of the early 2000’s and could barely handle the original sets, but now that it’s the mighty space age year of 2024 I’m an elderly curmudgeon who wants their more complex boncle. Imagine licensed sets with the sort of detail we see in fanmade mocs. Imagine a toa mata Onua with massive, poseable claws. Imagine The Makuta in their full, eldritch glory alongside their monstrous creations. Weaponry like cordak blasters, zamor launchers, and skyblasters (to name only a few) all streamlined and brick built. Visorak that are actually *spiders.* C’mon LEGO, we’re big kids now, we can handle sets with a bit more substance to them. Also, Bionicle was my childhood. Like, full stop. I’ve always felt that it was too *big* to be represented by the mainline action figures alone. A few big, incredibly detailed display pieces would be just what the doctor ordered. Also also, this ended up kinda rambly, and in the process of typing I forgot how everything was ordered and failed to make it match with the video’s structure like I should’ve to make my crazed ramblings make sense. Whoops.
This is so strange, 3 weeks ago I was looking for Rock stuff on Ebay and for some reason I remembered Bionicles sets, I bought some and now I realize that this topic is reviving in a sick way, I'm so happy that I'm not the only one who has remembered his childhood :')) Fun fact: I'm from Peru and I recently moved to Utah XDDDD
I would imagine a mix of 1 and 4 is shst I'd most realistically expect. System character builds in a new but in universe set story. And when it comes to G2, I think there was genuine passion on the psrt of the toy's figures.
honestly something that would make new CCBS molds great for a new bionicle line would be to release each toa in each color ala bakugan, like let us get out hands on a Tahu in gali's colors or a Pohatu in Kopaka's palette, maybe make a storyline where on top of looking for the great masks that the toa are then able to share with one another via golden kanohis they can also find golden toa tools that lets them change their element! collectors will KLOVE being able to assemble "mono-element" toa teams where they can have an entire team of fire toas or a team of just wind/air toas, the moc makers would have a field day creating whole new toas by mix and matching body types, toa tools and masks to create their own OCs and im sure a LOT of people would of loved to be able to create somethign silly like a toa Kahita out of 3 Tahus or something like that from a story point of view lego can emphasise team work and the value of every element by having the toa learn from eachother in order to be able to better use their elements, for exemple a hot headed tahu that is in a situation where he HAS to use the ice element but is left with a weaker elemental prowess than Kopaka because he still has the mindset of the fire element but then by embracing Kopaka's own attributes and mindset can fully access the might of the ice element just as well as the ice toa
It's unlikely since Lego destroyed all the original molds a few years after the line was discontinued, but it would be cool to have at least some kind of revival of Bionicle. It's been almost 10 years since Bionicle G2 and Lego has been working in Bionicle references in various sets, mostly in stickers and stuff, so you never know.
I always imagined Bionicle story to continue like this. It would be darker and set as an adult theme. Bionicle fans are the same, but older. The amount of them is the same as it was years before in its peak. So, here is my pitch: You return to the planet where Mata Nui left. Desolate and ruined landscape. Mist, swamps dark and gritty atmosphere. Wastelands and grey deserts. There would be matorans, and lots of enemies and monsters (scavengers) living of a cataclysmatic event which was caused by Mata Nui's leave. No one would save them, no one would help them. They needed to take care of themselves. Some of the would be very clever individuals who were able to transform themselfs into heroes or protection units. I imagine slightly different design. You would have slick and fast ones and also heavy and bulky ones. Limbs with springs and overall minimalistic design with dark pastel colours.
I never got into Bionicle, (I was more into Hero Factory,) but it certainly looks amazing. I could never figure out how to effectively use the pieces, so I just didn't like them. (This is because I wasn't around for Bionicle itself, so I never got the sets for it.)
I feel called out for living in Utah and being a Bionicle fan. But at the same time, that’s actually great news that there’s apparently more Bionicle fans here than anywhere else. Maybe I’ve actually got a shot at finding some friends who are into it.
Having to do a double take in a video because a piece of art I commissioned literally only a few weeks ago popped up in a one-off joke about Gen-Z trans women home owners was not on my list of things I thought I'd be dealing with today
Bionicle actually originally had loads of plans to tie in G2 with the original story (especially with all the references to the Mask of Time) so it was almost an attempt at the last idea. HOWEVER I do think of Lego fully brings back Bionicle, they should make it be a sequel and partial reboot not just to G1 but G2 as well. This could be done pretty easily due to the fact that Okoto is still quite a mysterious place in the Bionicle lore so it being used as a setting for this new partial reboot and then tying it in to where Bionicle G1 and G2 left off could be rlly cool. And it could serve as a good new location for new fans due to it still not having a ton of lore to it in comparison to other canon locations, making it ripe for future development. Lego could even tie in how the Toa’s final mission on the red Star ties into them falling to Okoto and having their memories erased and with this new gen Bionicle could even have Velika be the series’ final boss and have his master plan involve the Mask of Time and him planning to get it to ascend to his desired positions in the series’ world.
what about a gunpla method with the continuation idea? a "high grade" set that would be equivalent to what we're used to, and then a "master grade" set that resembles a build by some of the mast mocists.
I think the biggest problem facing a potential Bonkle return is pricing. Back in the day medium sets rrp reached a grand height of $13 USD. Meanwhile for G2 it was $20 USD for the Toa. Inflation has gone up so prices are going to be higher while wages haven't increased as much. Therefore it's going to be a challenge to make a set that has enough action/articulation, detail, and a low price so it's easy to pick up. Personally I think the GWP style with a few custom parts to make it more unique could work (and Kanohi. Bionicle needs Kanohi!). But as much as we want this franchise back we need to be open minded to some sacrifices.
Honestly there were a lot of future plot points that never came to pass when bionicle originally ended so continuing on from that means there will already be a lot of ideas to pull from. Not to mention all the lore bits dropped by chris faber on his channel.
If I had to shoot an idea it'd be this, why not start it off with just 6 toa and have 2 hidden figures, each canister has a cut out for 1 of the hidden figures and what's needed to make them (all the pieces are within the 6 canisters you just need at minimum 12 canisters to build both figures) the 2 hidden figures can either be a unity type of toa or a corrupted unity type of toa, essentially a toa of light or a toa of darkness/Makuta, these 2 hidden figures would of course be titan type of builds, if a person gets both they can also use a light source to see a further combination of the 2 hidden figures, a small reference to the mask of light movie, making this build a monster size, and as a prize for getting both (as they have half of the prize each) a small part of the build would allow someone to use their flashlights to show a map of the current world of Bionical with an extra island that bases the area these toa are in as well as areas marked as paths to choose from to get to the new island.
It honestly gets exhausting to have so many reboots for every single franchise. There's so many beginning stories but no grand finales. I agree with you, a continuation of the og line would be great and a new take on how we create media and toy lines different from the modern way of doing things.
if i recall correctly, wasn't bionicle initially a follow up series to a lego technic series of disc throwing robots of which their name i do not remember?(unrelated to the mctoran)
despite me wanting to see it too, i highly doubt lego making canister sets in canisters since lego wants to be more eco friendly as seen with paper bags or even digital instructions, bionicle g3 would most likely have the same or similar packaging to g2. also poor lewa he always got mind controlled 0:29
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"I want this to happen more then I want to live" you and me both brother.
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yup, I only live because I hope that one day, the Bionicle that we all love will make a glorious return...
@@artcrtc5028 Unity, Duty, Destiny my brother
I think it would be cool if they went the Ninjago: Dragons rising route. Have the old characters become “mentors” to a new generation, so they can still appear but they aren’t the focus
Hell, Bionicle _already_ has a narrative mechanic in place to do exactly that - turn the Toa Nuva into Turaga. That would solve so many issues and while it wouldn't please _everyone_ (because for all the love and passion the Bionicle community expresses, we can be a very, very prickly bunch), it would appease the narrative issue of connecting the old series with the new series.
On that note, too, in order to appease the purists who only care about new adventures of the Toa Nuva, making them Turaga would open up an opportunity to create a side series where they recount their adventures between series in webisodes or serialized web stories the same way Farshtey kept the story going back in the early 2010s before abandoning the serials to focus on Ninjago and Hero Factory full time.
Unfortunately, the old Bionicle molds are destroyed/melted down/ buried :(
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They were, buuuttt.... Some sketchy company out there in the Middle Kingdom managed to make good replication of late bonkle/HeFac for their sets
The confirmed replicates are indeed from 2009-2011 sets, however....just maybe, some sketchy company out there might managed to create moulds for early bonkle stuffs
This "molds are dead" mindset is killing me. 13 Billion dollar net-worth from the year 2023 (Statista). THEY CAN MAKE NEW MOLDS. Reverse engineer the molds from the given parts. The 3d models exist, they have a vault with all the parts, they can get all the parts and make new molds. They need the urgency to do it.
@@anzullic They have the schematics to recreate the molds, even make them better with modern standards, they just dont want to cause they see no financial incentive for that.
Bring back Bionicle!!!
I was wondering if u where gonne comment on this video because of your Bionicle moc being in the video, btw awesome moc
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I love your bionicle mocs! Pls keep doing them
Bionicle has a good chance now again. Because a Lot of new designers grew up on it. And the easter eggs are only increasing.
Bionicle is love, Bionicle is *LIFE*
@@riddell26 amen to that my friend
I need idea 4 more than I need to breathe… a new Bionicle wave is the only thing I need to achieve true happiness
Yes.
Bionicle G3 was the friends we made along the way
You’re the one that got me into Bionicle, so great seeing another video from you about Bionicle
I think repros is unlikely. LEGO actually throws out their old molds after they go unused for a few years so they'd basically have to make new identical (or near identical) molds for all of the old Toa stuff.
This "molds are dead" mindset is killing me. 13 Billion dollar net-worth from the year 2023 (Statista). THEY CAN MAKE NEW MOLDS. Reverse engineer the molds from the given parts. The 3d models exist, they have a vault with all the parts, they can get all the parts and make new molds. They need the urgency to do it.
AT LEAST bring the Bionicle pieces and Hero Factory pieces to pick-a-brick.
@@anzullic not to mention that people have been replicating old parts, as well as making new ones through blender, 3d imaging, etc.
@@anzullic I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying the straight up reproduction idea seems very unlikely. I think we could maybe see some of the more iconic old MASKS return, I'm not sure about other parts.
I think it's more likely we could see a new system with the same mask designs but at a slightly different scale and different builds.
I wish they'd just hire a handful of crazy "I'm normal about Bionicle" superfans. The guys with the youtube channels that build crazy Bionicle sht to this day. Discussing with the pros how to approach this with the current brick portfolio without losing the spirit of original Bonkle. "Build a Bionicle from scratch with current parts" would be a fun challenge as long as it doesn't look like that crappy one they made a few years ago.
Or just remake a handful of the old parts as new molds. I haven't played with a Bionicle in many many years but I remember that they used very distinct parts MANY times. No idea how these pieces are called, but like... the ball joints they always used for arms and legs for example.
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I do believe the bionicle system will return, like a hero factory situation again but better handled, i l Ioved the world and story of bionicle but i do hope the toy system itself is given another life, anothe form, another story worth telling and hearing of
Hero Factory parts looked so generic. And so did the 2017 return of Bionicle. LEGO should be able to make even more complex molds today with the 3D rendering technology we have now. They could afford to make thousands of new molds back then, and can afford it now, and quicker and easier than ever and they should hopefully be more detailed than Hero Factory and 2017 Bionicle which was bland.
Well i hope dont domb down the story again like g2.... they domb so badly that target kids, the kids dont find it interesting..... bring back the dark edgy
0:56 not even a minute in and Im getting called tf out.
also not related but hoodz n the woodz joe hawley as bg music is a crazy a pull
Same girl
Same haha.
What we need is people who are fans of Bionicle to work at Lego and make new Bionicle sets
that tahu and takua randomly showed up on amazon for $20 and i have no regrets about picking it up
2:12 almost spit my water at that one
If Lego does anything with a Bionicle logo on the box I'm buying it. How many copies of it depends on the execution 😉
The fans are bringing bionicle back in out hearts every day😢
Even though I’m a teenager, I still grew up on bionicles, and I was really into the 2016 edition. Once I think for my 8th bday I wanted a set, then I found out they discontinued, I have just been holding onto the sets that I have left but ended up making my own character with them. All I ask is for em to come back ❤
0:55 I feel called out
If Bionicles come back, play feature is a necessity and the detacheable masks are Bionicle's identity
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0:57 this is the most I've felt represented in my life
average bocchi fan (same)
Lego Bandai crossover. Give me a Bionicle Gunpla, and a Lego Gundam.
4:45 The problem with that is that Lego destroys their old molds.
I still don't understand why they do that. Are they really that afraid of the molds being stolen or something?
@@badatgamesguy5399Cost, maybe? They make hundreds of moulds every year, so destroying some old ones that they're positive won't come back makes sense
@@badatgamesguy5399 I think something simular like that did happen.
@@badatgamesguy5399 it cost more money keep a old mode in circulation than it is to destroy it also it would cost too much if they want to remake it with how Lego pieces work
wat
when did they stop archiving their tooling? last I checked they kept a copy of every set and a copy of its tooling in their archive.
We hope and pray
Every day.
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2nd is unbelievably unlikely. They would have to make so many new moulds for something hardly anyone is gonna buy
TF YOU MEAN HARDLY ANYBODY IS GONNA BUY
All the diehard original fans would absolutely buy them, and I am certain it would introduce kids to the franchise in a way that would also be popular.
Bionicle is now almost as old as Transformers was when the live action movies revitalized the brand. Currently, the majority of Transformers toys are being bought by adult collectors. That's a smaller market but it's one with enough dedicated fans that it's worth pursuing.
Which one do you think is most likely
@@caok1010 the one where they release system sets that people actually want and the people who got into bionicle in 2006 and 2007 who say “sorry, but bonkles are action figures, not legos,” finally get eclipsed.
Or alternatively a new idea: bionicle started as a TECHNIC line, so just release some colorful humanoid/animalistic technic sets, and there you go. Dont even have to call it bionicle. Maybe the setting is space or something. But that’s all it takes to recapture the chic of 2001 sets, colorful technic and a nice setting, and lego certainly has the color pallet today to do it.
The only part I can’t see happening at all is canisters. Lego is trying to remove plastics from their packaging, it would only come in a cardboard box and likely have paper parts bags.
In my opinion, LEGO should release at least some kind of anniversary set for the 25th anniversary of the series. A very good candidate would be the LEGO Ideas project, which is currently collecting votes on the website, and which is definitely not talked about enough in our community. I don't remember the name of the author of the MOC I'm talking about now, but the building itself is a diorama with palm trees, on which stand two figures built in 90% LEGO Technic bricks. I would like to see a official set containing at least the figures themselves, but instead of a diorama, we would receive recolors of all the colored bricks, so that when you buy one piece of the set, you get a black skeleton that can be covered with armor of any color, creating a Toa of fire, water, ice, etc. If you haven't come across this project yet, I recommend taking a look, because it's probably the closest thing that could reconcile the pool of bricks still being produced and the expectations of fans of the series.
I’m not sure about anyone else but I want to see more of that tank in the back of your room (;
I went to my childhood mall and walked past what used to be the KB Toys I’d buy all my Bionicles from. Great timing!
i mean i think bionicle could make a good comeback. I think a part of the reason the 2015 reboot failed is that the market at the time was super saturated with other constraction figures that used the same skeletons and mostly the same parts. there were so many star wars sets that used the same skeletons and molds, and even the bionicle figures were mostly using the systems designed for hero factory. I think a new wave that used new parts, that had a good tv show could do really well, because even though lego currently has the big system based construction figures, if they go back to the ball joint and technic based system for bionicle, it will stand out pretty well.
I can’t see a reason (beyond money) why they can’t just remake the molds? There is no way they can’t do that….bionicle was all about taking a leap of faith and trying something new….it worked back then…and I’m willing to bet that if they just rereleased the classic bionicle set by set, year by year, that they would make their money….they would at least have my money
13 Billion dollar net-worth from 2023 (Statista). At the very least bring the Bionicle and Hero Factory parts to pick-a-brick. We need to stop asking and start demanding.
LEGO can do it, and they can do it incrementally add one piece after the other.
Second I saw Mitchbuild’s moc on the image I clciked
I 100% agree with the “keep the mind open thing” I think that even if some people like it and some don’t we should still all show our support for the theme. One thing too is that I’d probably be fine with system bricks! They could probably make some really really cool stuff from it!!!
If LEGO will bring 2001 Kanohi and keep selling their recolors in Mata/Turaga/Metru colors, making the Toa body out of still produced bricks is pretty easy. Yeah, it requires a lot of bricks to recreate what was possible years ago for a single brick, but balljoints are still available. Technic bricks too ;)
what the fuck that "lego" RX-78-2 looks sick af
All you have to look at is the success of gunpla to see that there’s definitely a giant market out there for buildable robots
Ok im just gonna say it. We need a B-Daman Reboot !
Would I be excited if Bionicle comes back again (again)? Of course! But, it’s ok for something beloved to stay in the past. That’s why it’s beloved.
4:37 Lego has sort of done this. Back in 2019 in certain Lego Star Wars sets, a minifigure from the first few years of Lego Star Wars was included. The only difference was a 20th anniversary logo printed on all of their backs.
Thank you for giving me hope jett especially since its my birthday!
YES A NEW BIONICLE VIDEO THANK YOU JETT KUSO OHHHHHH GOD IS GOOD GOD IS GOOD
i never undestood why LEGO is so adamant about destroying molds, meanwhile hasbro comes out wuith 20 year old transformers repros, including the pill bug noone even liked
This "molds are dead" mindset is killing me. 13 Billion dollar net-worth from the year 2023 (Statista). THEY CAN MAKE NEW MOLDS. Reverse engineer the molds from the given parts. The 3d models exist, they have a vault with all the parts, they can get all the parts and make new molds. They need the urgency to do it.
AT LEAST bring the Bionicle pieces and Hero Factory pieces to pick-a-brick.
Also Bandai still reproducing 40 year old model kits from Gundam.
I’m not sure how true this is but I’ve heard it’s more financially viable to destroy moulds than keep them. For a company that has made an ungodly amount of unique elements over the years, that scans tbh
Replying to myself but I had a thought, hasbro is very beholden to what moulds they happen to find. Take that Beast Wars: Transformers reissue line from a few years ago. If they had better moulds, why would they EVER do nobodies like Retrax and Iguanus? We still don’t have a dinobot or rhinox!
It's because the molds cost alot to store, if a part won't be used in 4 years its cheaper to make a new mold instead of saving the mold for 4 years
Bionicle will probably come back as a minimal-effort line just so LEGO can cancel it and be like "SEE BIONICLE DOESN'T SELL ANYMORE"
I had a dream where Lego outsourced the bionicle rights to Bandai and we got model Kits like gundam and it was great
0:57 You didn't have to call me out like that damn bro 😭
If possible I just hope someone sends this video to The Lego company so they actually see this and might think about it
Be that some one?
I need LEGO to at least bring the Bionicle and Hero Factory pieces to pick-a-brick. This "molds are dead" mindset is killing me. 13 Billion dollar net-worth from the year 2023 (Statista). THEY CAN MAKE NEW MOLDS. Reverse engineer the molds from the given parts. The 3d models exist, they have a vault with all the parts, they can get all the parts and make new molds. They need the urgency to do it.
I would love to have model kits of the toa mata. Imagine all the articulation and the pistons moving
The fact you can build most of the Turaga out of just technic parts. Litterally only 4 parts needed to complete the body.
I've already got Bionicle back in my life, and it's called 30 Minutes Missions...
Also, Gundam. Can't forget Gunpla.
I also moved on to building Gunpla and other similar model kits. They're definitely not toys, and the barrier to entry is a fair bit higher, but they oh so scratch the itch!
The issue with option 2 is that lego has already destroyed all the molds, as they do with any mold that goes unused for 5 years
I definetly think a Bionicle reboot/relaunch needs the mystery angle to succeed.
The problem with a continuation is that the lore got way too complex and self-involved for new audiences to integrate with. Also the reason G2 failed is that Lego tried too hard to market it to both the original audience (who didn't want it because it wasn't the thing they had as kids) and expected said audience to market it to younger people in their lives.
I feel like the marketing must have been pretty bad for G2, because I was basically the new target audience (maybe a little younger than the target kids, but right about there) and I never new it existed until after it was discontinued
Basic character pods with titan upgrade kits sold separately is GENIUS!
Just treat it like Transformers. G1, G2, Beast Wars, etc.
I actually am writing a book set 9000 years after the story finale. The first part is just a small adventure following the fire element main protagonist who finds Metus wanting the Mask of Time so he can revert to his Igorhi form instead of being a parasitic snake. In the next part, we will learn that something happened to break timelines and they need to find the Mask of Time again. Not sure what it possible third will be about.
0:57 personally I always preferred Hero factory myself but if you must know we tend to live inside your walls or perhaps your attic
0:17 .... why alaska? Like I live in Alaska and am a fan of bionicle, but it's not like there are alot of us in Alaska.
What I'd love to see is something in the vein of Pokemon Generations kinda. Like, we get a g3 in some form, idc if it's a full reboot or a continuation, but we could still get iconic characters like the Toa Mata just so they're out there for the mainstream. But then we could also get side content related to g1. I'm a very visual person, and as much as I love the room for MOCs left by characters who didn't have official illustrated/built forms, I'd still love to have like, a proper version of Tuyet that I can buy, etc. So have a collectors line of these unreleased characters, and maybe an accompanying mini series covering lore that the movies didn't. Then it also offers something new for old fans to buy instead of just Toa repros.
9:57 Truer words have never been spoken.
If so, hopefully it will succeed better than the last return.
Just put them in those colorful canisters, place them on those Target or Walmart shelves, and I will buy every single set with my credit card with the biggest and happiest smirk you will ever see. PLEASE LEGO HEAR US! LISTEN TO OUR CRY!
#MOREBIONICLES
I think what I would like to see is two things: first, continue the story. Standard constraction builds of new characters with the same “pattern” of new heroes in the iconic canisters and assorted villains, little dudes, and masks. That was a winning formula for a reason. Maybe spice it up a little, we see toa of psionics and gravity and such in the lore but we’ve never had official retail sets of the more obscure “elements.”
Second, I think bionicle should revisit titan sets, and they should go HAM with it. Furthermore, they should do revamped versions of older characters. I was but a tiny baby in the ancient prehistoric years of the early 2000’s and could barely handle the original sets, but now that it’s the mighty space age year of 2024 I’m an elderly curmudgeon who wants their more complex boncle. Imagine licensed sets with the sort of detail we see in fanmade mocs. Imagine a toa mata Onua with massive, poseable claws. Imagine The Makuta in their full, eldritch glory alongside their monstrous creations. Weaponry like cordak blasters, zamor launchers, and skyblasters (to name only a few) all streamlined and brick built. Visorak that are actually *spiders.* C’mon LEGO, we’re big kids now, we can handle sets with a bit more substance to them.
Also, Bionicle was my childhood. Like, full stop. I’ve always felt that it was too *big* to be represented by the mainline action figures alone. A few big, incredibly detailed display pieces would be just what the doctor ordered.
Also also, this ended up kinda rambly, and in the process of typing I forgot how everything was ordered and failed to make it match with the video’s structure like I should’ve to make my crazed ramblings make sense. Whoops.
Option 4 is my ideal comeback... Pipedream but yeah, i'd love it. Give me Turaga Mata, old Takanuva, everyone coexisting in the new reborn planet...
It's only been 60 seconds and I already got clocked just by watching this video 🤣
0:54 “… and wherever gen-z trans women live”. I spit out my coffee 😂
I don’t really get the joke, can someone explain?
I made DIRECT eye contact with my toa oc on my desk...
It's so tiresome
- *Stares at the Bohrok next to my trans flag*
- *Stares harder at the head I plan to use to remake an OC Toa*
Some of us are younger millennials! Now excuse me while I crumble to dust like the rubber bands that came with some of my sets from 2001...
This is so strange, 3 weeks ago I was looking for Rock stuff on Ebay and for some reason I remembered Bionicles sets, I bought some and now I realize that this topic is reviving in a sick way, I'm so happy that I'm not the only one who has remembered his childhood :'))
Fun fact: I'm from Peru and I recently moved to Utah XDDDD
As nice as it would be to see Bionicle come back, I don't see myself spending money on them if they're system sets.
idea #4 is perfect and they have the capabilities to do so, i hope theyve been working on that exact idea for the last few years and theyre saving it
I would imagine a mix of 1 and 4 is shst I'd most realistically expect.
System character builds in a new but in universe set story.
And when it comes to G2, I think there was genuine passion on the psrt of the toy's figures.
honestly something that would make new CCBS molds great for a new bionicle line would be to release each toa in each color ala bakugan, like let us get out hands on a Tahu in gali's colors or a Pohatu in Kopaka's palette, maybe make a storyline where on top of looking for the great masks that the toa are then able to share with one another via golden kanohis they can also find golden toa tools that lets them change their element! collectors will KLOVE being able to assemble "mono-element" toa teams where they can have an entire team of fire toas or a team of just wind/air toas, the moc makers would have a field day creating whole new toas by mix and matching body types, toa tools and masks to create their own OCs and im sure a LOT of people would of loved to be able to create somethign silly like a toa Kahita out of 3 Tahus or something like that
from a story point of view lego can emphasise team work and the value of every element by having the toa learn from eachother in order to be able to better use their elements, for exemple a hot headed tahu that is in a situation where he HAS to use the ice element but is left with a weaker elemental prowess than Kopaka because he still has the mindset of the fire element but then by embracing Kopaka's own attributes and mindset can fully access the might of the ice element just as well as the ice toa
OH HEY I KNOW THAT CLIP
My favorite idea is a Halloween code being included in a November video.
Hmmmm what if lego embraces catering to niches by giving like a mold a year and having it on standby via production by order
In 2020, they said it would come back in 2021, then in 2021 they said 2022, then they said 2023, 2024, 2025, people just love spreading that rumor.
The only thing I heard was that the license or trademark would go out if they didn't use it but I don't think that's the case or at least not yet
@@DanDen-gh7sihow long until they lose the licenses? It nearly 10 years since g2
@TheDragonfriday I have no idea unfortunately it was just another guess made by someone
This video rocked, amazing ideas. I hope they bring them back for the 25th anniversary!
It's unlikely since Lego destroyed all the original molds a few years after the line was discontinued, but it would be cool to have at least some kind of revival of Bionicle. It's been almost 10 years since Bionicle G2 and Lego has been working in Bionicle references in various sets, mostly in stickers and stuff, so you never know.
I always imagined Bionicle story to continue like this. It would be darker and set as an adult theme.
Bionicle fans are the same, but older. The amount of them is the same as it was years before in its peak. So, here is my pitch:
You return to the planet where Mata Nui left. Desolate and ruined landscape. Mist, swamps dark and gritty atmosphere. Wastelands and grey deserts. There would be matorans, and lots of enemies and monsters (scavengers) living of a cataclysmatic event which was caused by Mata Nui's leave. No one would save them, no one would help them. They needed to take care of themselves. Some of the would be very clever individuals who were able to transform themselfs into heroes or protection units. I imagine slightly different design. You would have slick and fast ones and also heavy and bulky ones. Limbs with springs and overall minimalistic design with dark pastel colours.
WE NEED THIS.
I never got into Bionicle, (I was more into Hero Factory,) but it certainly looks amazing. I could never figure out how to effectively use the pieces, so I just didn't like them. (This is because I wasn't around for Bionicle itself, so I never got the sets for it.)
bionicle, come back to us！
I love that c418 track playing at 10:05, its so sad he doesn't really release anything anymore :(
I feel called out for living in Utah and being a Bionicle fan. But at the same time, that’s actually great news that there’s apparently more Bionicle fans here than anywhere else. Maybe I’ve actually got a shot at finding some friends who are into it.
Having to do a double take in a video because a piece of art I commissioned literally only a few weeks ago popped up in a one-off joke about Gen-Z trans women home owners was not on my list of things I thought I'd be dealing with today
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Bionicle actually originally had loads of plans to tie in G2 with the original story (especially with all the references to the Mask of Time) so it was almost an attempt at the last idea. HOWEVER I do think of Lego fully brings back Bionicle, they should make it be a sequel and partial reboot not just to G1 but G2 as well. This could be done pretty easily due to the fact that Okoto is still quite a mysterious place in the Bionicle lore so it being used as a setting for this new partial reboot and then tying it in to where Bionicle G1 and G2 left off could be rlly cool. And it could serve as a good new location for new fans due to it still not having a ton of lore to it in comparison to other canon locations, making it ripe for future development. Lego could even tie in how the Toa’s final mission on the red Star ties into them falling to Okoto and having their memories erased and with this new gen Bionicle could even have Velika be the series’ final boss and have his master plan involve the Mask of Time and him planning to get it to ascend to his desired positions in the series’ world.
Would be cute to see some mechy blocky Mixel looking Bionicle.
The OGs were fine too but i wanna see some more consistent flow.
2:24 Woah!
there is another option - Marvel Ultra Built / Nijago-Mech style bodies with a handful of custom pieces for the mask and armor
what about a gunpla method with the continuation idea? a "high grade" set that would be equivalent to what we're used to, and then a "master grade" set that resembles a build by some of the mast mocists.
I think the biggest problem facing a potential Bonkle return is pricing. Back in the day medium sets rrp reached a grand height of $13 USD. Meanwhile for G2 it was $20 USD for the Toa. Inflation has gone up so prices are going to be higher while wages haven't increased as much. Therefore it's going to be a challenge to make a set that has enough action/articulation, detail, and a low price so it's easy to pick up.
Personally I think the GWP style with a few custom parts to make it more unique could work (and Kanohi. Bionicle needs Kanohi!). But as much as we want this franchise back we need to be open minded to some sacrifices.
Honestly there were a lot of future plot points that never came to pass when bionicle originally ended so continuing on from that means there will already be a lot of ideas to pull from. Not to mention all the lore bits dropped by chris faber on his channel.
If I had to shoot an idea it'd be this, why not start it off with just 6 toa and have 2 hidden figures, each canister has a cut out for 1 of the hidden figures and what's needed to make them (all the pieces are within the 6 canisters you just need at minimum 12 canisters to build both figures) the 2 hidden figures can either be a unity type of toa or a corrupted unity type of toa, essentially a toa of light or a toa of darkness/Makuta, these 2 hidden figures would of course be titan type of builds, if a person gets both they can also use a light source to see a further combination of the 2 hidden figures, a small reference to the mask of light movie, making this build a monster size, and as a prize for getting both (as they have half of the prize each) a small part of the build would allow someone to use their flashlights to show a map of the current world of Bionical with an extra island that bases the area these toa are in as well as areas marked as paths to choose from to get to the new island.
If this is True that it's finally coming back after 10 Years since G2 Came out I'm curious to see what they'll do with a New Building System 😄
OG bionicle was an esoteric allegory.
Happy Thanksgiving y'all and I'd love to see Bionicle return but I just don't have hope that they can do that at a price that we'll be happy with.
It honestly gets exhausting to have so many reboots for every single franchise. There's so many beginning stories but no grand finales. I agree with you, a continuation of the og line would be great and a new take on how we create media and toy lines different from the modern way of doing things.
Lego did re-release sets like fort legorado and the pizza shop when they were still hard up for cash in the early 2000s.
if i recall correctly, wasn't bionicle initially a follow up series to a lego technic series of disc throwing robots of which their name i do not remember?(unrelated to the mctoran)
despite me wanting to see it too, i highly doubt lego making canister sets in canisters since lego wants to be more eco friendly as seen with paper bags or even digital instructions, bionicle g3 would most likely have the same or similar packaging to g2.
also poor lewa he always got mind controlled 0:29