I Wasted $5000 To Game On a Mac...

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  • Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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    Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! In my excitement for new processor architecture I decided to pony up the largest premium on an experiment I almost envisioned going terribly when I attempted to game on the new M1 Max processors from Apple. To be fair the results are impressive when you consider the software wizardry going on under the hood. Thanks for watching!
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  • @SomeOrdinaryGamers
    @SomeOrdinaryGamers  2 роки тому +178

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  • @TailsIsDisappointed
    @TailsIsDisappointed 2 роки тому +2298

    Spending $5,000 on a McDonalds Big Mac is the most American thing you can do.

  • @keyblitz_
    @keyblitz_ 2 роки тому +1511

    I was just beginning to worry that there was a noticeable lack of Mac bullying from Mutahar this year. Good to see order has been restored

    • @hyptexoff3646
      @hyptexoff3646 2 роки тому +49

      Just in my opinion I don't think the 5.5k price tag is worth it

    • @weekdays133
      @weekdays133 2 роки тому +14

      @SC (BEST UA-camR EVER) last chance

    • @vvictvr
      @vvictvr 2 роки тому +35

      @SC (BEST UA-camR EVER) delete your channel

    • @Shimeih
      @Shimeih 2 роки тому

      The force is balanced

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY 2 роки тому

      Yeah

  • @WackMau
    @WackMau 2 роки тому +685

    It's kinda crazy that Linux has become better for gaming than Mac, 10 years ago that would have been unthinkable

    • @ericmarcelino4381
      @ericmarcelino4381 2 роки тому +32

      Almost better than Windows too
      In several years at least

    • @anharun
      @anharun 2 роки тому +41

      @Aroko 76 I love when you said Mac is bad and M1 is good. That represent how Apple can't make a good product.

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah

    • @abdullahnadeem1823
      @abdullahnadeem1823 2 роки тому +9

      Yeah but, Mac isnt even made for gaming.

    • @anharun
      @anharun 2 роки тому +15

      @Aroko 76 I own M1 MBP and disappointed how Apple made Mac OS. 32-bit support removed, and Rosetta performance is still bad till now

  • @danielcharles4431
    @danielcharles4431 2 роки тому +817

    Remember kids, there is a difference between 'spent' and 'wasted', but if Muta really used those money to game on Mac, it really was money wasted.

    • @DawnMacaron
      @DawnMacaron 2 роки тому +82

      @SC (BEST UA-camR EVER) ew a probably bait bot

    • @weekdays133
      @weekdays133 2 роки тому +6

      @SC (BEST UA-camR EVER) stop boting and a

    • @staarfinger7322
      @staarfinger7322 2 роки тому +12

      @SC (BEST UA-camR EVER) begone! Bot

    • @interlace84
      @interlace84 2 роки тому

      Also remember Muta has $5k to throw around just for fun & content -;)

    • @airdog46x
      @airdog46x 2 роки тому +4

      He literally said he used it for editing cuz windows kept crashing and it even beat his main PC

  • @TommyCrosby
    @TommyCrosby 2 роки тому +231

    The fact that you can play GTA5 well enough but cannot run the original trilogy "Definitive Edition" is hilarious.

    • @kloroformd
      @kloroformd 2 роки тому +21

      That's not just a Mac thing, that's just how life works now.

    • @bcanimacoes6280
      @bcanimacoes6280 2 роки тому +18

      Thats a common occurence. My pc runs red dead 2 and gta 5 (at max) at 60 fps at least but gta trilogy has insane stuttering for me.

    • @bigwendigo2253
      @bigwendigo2253 2 роки тому +6

      @@bcanimacoes6280 that’s so fucked up. I really feel like Rockstar messed up with this trilogy remaster, there was so much potential to release a good remaster and the foundation of the games are already there. Not only does it look worse than GTAV and RDR2 but it runs worse, too? They also tried to use it as an excuse to get rid of the modding community 🙄 Overall it was a total shit release.

    • @kingpen5866
      @kingpen5866 4 місяці тому

      The fact that you said the fact that shows the fact that you didn’t really need to say the fact that

  • @med8972
    @med8972 2 роки тому +520

    This tells a lot about Muta’s financial status

    • @joshuad1716
      @joshuad1716 2 роки тому +124

      He’s got almost 3 million subs, do you really think he’s broke??

    • @daunzy4518
      @daunzy4518 2 роки тому +49

      He has 668 million views

    • @jimmy22334
      @jimmy22334 2 роки тому +119

      He has 3 million subs plus he has a really good main job. He has said multiple times that he doesn’t need UA-cam to be financially stable.

    • @vagamer522
      @vagamer522 2 роки тому +42

      @@jimmy22334 Yeah you can look at software engineering as well as it has a good pay too

    • @sugma6723
      @sugma6723 2 роки тому +44

      @@jimmy22334 he does another job? Damn his work rate must be nuts 😂

  • @WitchRegen
    @WitchRegen 2 роки тому +186

    Honestly, the amount of effort you have to go through just to play more than a handful of games just sounds absolutely dreadful, especially for the price. Maybe in 5 years it'll have some parity with Windows for Gaming, but right now I wouldn't touch Mac with a 10 foot pole if gaming was my main objective. For everything else though, the new macs are super impressive, so it'll be interesting to see where that goes.

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY 2 роки тому

      Yeah

    • @blooocki
      @blooocki 2 роки тому +1

      I would do that too...
      If I couldn't just get almost the complete same for even less then a 1/5 of that price lul

    • @MrYossarianuk
      @MrYossarianuk 2 роки тому +12

      Better off with Linux, far more games (about %70-80 of Windows games work now), wait a few months and you'll be able to install Linux on the new Macbooks also (its already semi working)

    • @badwolf9956
      @badwolf9956 2 роки тому +7

      Macs are amazing, long lasting, and reliable if you’re looking for regular work tasks, video editing, music production, and photoshop

    • @WitchRegen
      @WitchRegen 2 роки тому +6

      @@badwolf9956 Definitely, I think they're great if that's your main focus - I still prefer Windows/Linux for my own workflow + gaming support but these new Macs are certainly beasts for doing work on so I don't blame anyone for going that route.

  • @uydagcusdgfughfgsfggsifg753
    @uydagcusdgfughfgsfggsifg753 2 роки тому +251

    The new ARM architecture and the M1 series overall have been an insane leap, and I’m excited to see the war with x86/64
    I wonder if one day we’ll all be on ARM

    • @vagamer522
      @vagamer522 2 роки тому +65

      @SC (BEST UA-camR EVER) touch grass

    • @vagamer522
      @vagamer522 2 роки тому +12

      To be fair Ryzen 5 Vega8 does susprising numbers as well

    • @Heyyofryman
      @Heyyofryman 2 роки тому +17

      Weird pc slobs won’t want to accept that! Come on now!

    • @weekdays133
      @weekdays133 2 роки тому +5

      @SC (BEST UA-camR EVER) anti spam bomb activate

    • @MastermindAtWork
      @MastermindAtWork 2 роки тому +1

      You do know most Phones already on ARM so technically, we're already using ARM devices.

  • @sandakureva
    @sandakureva 2 роки тому +68

    It seems like Macs remain excellent for very-heavy creative work... and not much else.
    If I need to render a humongous Blender project, it's gonna do it quickly and do it well.
    Otherwise you're gonna have problems.

    • @inkuii
      @inkuii 2 роки тому +3

      a shame mine keeps trying to die whenever I have a 150 layer photoshop file open

    • @commonfooI
      @commonfooI 2 роки тому +2

      probably true

    • @nolandderlugner1351
      @nolandderlugner1351 Місяць тому

      U can also render it fast on normal windows pc or linux
      Jusr use a color calibrated screen

  • @iceman4319
    @iceman4319 2 роки тому +58

    Muta: My Mac doesn’t even run its fans it’s so good
    Me with my Mac smoking in the background while running csgo or eu4: Yeah totally mine is awesome, just like yours muta

    • @kloroformd
      @kloroformd 2 роки тому

      My newest Mac runs Nanosaur pretty well.

    • @bigwendigo2253
      @bigwendigo2253 2 роки тому +2

      What year/model do you have? I have a MacBook Pro from 2011 and the fans go hard when pushing the system lol, but mine is 10 years old at this point. It’s *still* good for making music. It doesn’t like the newest versions of image/video editing or 3D modeling software, though.

    • @inkuii
      @inkuii 2 роки тому

      mine is a 2020 model I got just 3 months ago, and the fans certainly go hard whenever I have obs open

    • @gaminggg
      @gaminggg 2 роки тому

      @@inkuii are you sure that it has an m1 chip? intel macs are a culprit of these airplane jet fans

    • @inkuii
      @inkuii 2 роки тому

      @@gaminggg unfortunately it is definitely an intel chip, as one of the programs I use isn't compatible with m1 chips at all.

  • @durchfaII
    @durchfaII 2 роки тому +72

    26:42 just a friendly reminder, MGSV can run on the most dogshit integrated graphics cpu's

    • @MpSniperM1911
      @MpSniperM1911 2 роки тому +14

      yeah a friend of mine is running the game on the integrated graphics of a i5-8400, the CPU is enough.
      "funny" thing is that he have this pc since launch (2018) and he still don't have a graphics card

    • @math001
      @math001 2 роки тому +18

      That game is optimized as fuck. First thing I noticed when I played it. Really amazing job by Kojima's team there

    • @blueshky
      @blueshky 2 роки тому +3

      Hmm, weird that it doesn't on my 940mx then

    • @roflBeck
      @roflBeck 2 роки тому +2

      That's fucking amazing considering how nice it looks

  • @apc9681
    @apc9681 2 роки тому +118

    M1 chips are some of the best on the market, an M1 Mac Mini can be picked up for £500 which is ridiculous value. Shame Apple would rather keep their expertise in production, they could easily make the new Macs more gaming friendly and show off how good the new M chips are.

    • @ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it
      @ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it 2 роки тому +1

      lmaoi. wait for new amd cpus in 2022. your m1 will get rolled

    • @cpK054L
      @cpK054L 2 роки тому +10

      "Best in the market" compared to what....?
      Comparing ARM/RISC to x86 is dumb.
      The applications do not run natively on the hardware, and you're running an emulated version.
      That alone would eat some threads up.
      If anything, the only thing that Apple would end up winning is a laptop that can last for a week without a charge, but change run STEAM on Wine natively.
      and a lot of Windows Apps aren't going to run.
      You want a trial of how to test this?
      Get a Raspberry Pi, plug in a Debian unix and try to install your favorite apps.

    • @Shanboss277
      @Shanboss277 2 роки тому +24

      @@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it lmao in 2022 apples 2020 processor will be destroyed. Good Job

    • @txcforever
      @txcforever 2 роки тому +2

      They can't make them gaming friendly. They are using a completely different architecture that neither consoles or PCs use (except the Nintendo Switch). So it's up to the gaming companies to decide if it's worth investing money into porting their games on a completely different hardware. At best we might see some games being ported from phones or the Switch but I am not sure it's worth the investment.

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 2 роки тому +1

      @@txcforever Bringing back OpenGL would help, most companies don't want to redo their game for Metal

  • @decipher111
    @decipher111 2 роки тому +77

    Apple fanboys: you gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers

    • @hogexd
      @hogexd 2 роки тому

      Not

    • @decipher111
      @decipher111 2 роки тому +16

      @Joe 5000 dollars is a rookie number to an apple fan

    • @Zarathustra_infinite
      @Zarathustra_infinite 2 роки тому +11

      Gotta keep buying apple stuff you gotta buy that 1000 dollar wheels and your 1200 phone everyday all day don't stop until your house is filled with apple products

    • @weekdays133
      @weekdays133 2 роки тому +2

      @SC (BEST UA-camR EVER)go home

  • @icecoldkv8005
    @icecoldkv8005 2 роки тому +12

    Apple: 10 Core CPU and 32 Core GPU for $5000 CAD
    Me: 16 Core 5950x and 8702 Core 3080 for $3700 CAD
    I admire what Apple is doing with the Bionic and M1 chips. Both are best in their markets. Too bad the Bionic is limited by the battery Apple puts in their phones.

    • @viztiz316
      @viztiz316 2 роки тому +7

      I get what you're trying to say but it's like comparing apples (lol) to oranges
      You have a portable laptop on one hand and a huge pc that plugs into the wall in the other

  • @patentedorganism1557
    @patentedorganism1557 2 роки тому +37

    And here I thought gaming on a Mac was impossible.
    -me, a MacBook user

    • @quetzalcueyat
      @quetzalcueyat 2 роки тому

      Plays minecraft fine

    • @viztiz316
      @viztiz316 2 роки тому +5

      @@quetzalcueyat Minecraft (both versions) can run on almost anything that released in the last 15 years

    • @luan4753
      @luan4753 2 роки тому

      @@viztiz316 bro If Touren trying to fool people atleast make it believable

    • @viztiz316
      @viztiz316 2 роки тому +1

      @@luan4753 what? I get 150 fps on my i3 3220 with integrated graphics on medium settings and optimisation mods on java 1.17.1
      I get 60 fps on 50 chunks render distance with max settings (but no aa) on 1.18.2 on bedrock

  • @xxndgamingxx
    @xxndgamingxx 2 роки тому +8

    Hey I agree. I would never either and hadn’t til know being a big boy tech . I was very interested in the new next big architecture

  • @companymen42
    @companymen42 2 роки тому +34

    As a Verilog, C and C++ programmer, I have no real reason to purchase a mac. I want to because it’s VERY nice computer, but MacOS doesnt run Xilinx Vivado, or GCC natively. I think its geared more to video, photo, and music creators.

    • @math001
      @math001 2 роки тому +1

      Works amazing for web/mobile dev too

    • @cpK054L
      @cpK054L 2 роки тому +6

      Wait what?
      It uses an ARM processor.
      I've programmed ARM7/Artix7 board using ARM and GCC.
      Raspberry Pi is also an ARM processor, it has GCC built in.
      So you're saying Apple is worse than a RPi?

    • @Zephyrus0
      @Zephyrus0 2 роки тому

      @@cpK054L It's mostly due to Licensing and how Apple works, it's not great at everything like anything else.

    • @kipa_chu
      @kipa_chu 2 роки тому +2

      Yea, it's bad for system programming. Its oriented towards web development and video editing. Not good for backend developers. I had to switch to thinkPad recently because of it.

    • @cpK054L
      @cpK054L 2 роки тому

      @@Zephyrus0 I thought GCC was a free compiler? Can it use something else like C99? Or XC64?

  • @LeonZaneFigueira
    @LeonZaneFigueira 2 роки тому +7

    A lot of people are gonna hyper focus on the 6k price tag not realising the cheapest M1 pro is also immensely impressive, the only thing missing is devs actually caring

    • @viztiz316
      @viztiz316 2 роки тому

      Apple forces them to use proprietary API for the games instead of just using ones which are already widely used

    • @DenOfTimbsllc
      @DenOfTimbsllc 9 місяців тому

      Amen!!!!!!!!

  • @HummusYummus
    @HummusYummus 2 роки тому +1

    This is a great video. I appreciate your knowledge and experimentation. I’m a M1 MacBook user myself and it’s good to see what’s happening in the gaming sphere

  • @jairozamora608
    @jairozamora608 2 роки тому +14

    I have the base model for M1 MacBook Pro 13 in with student discount for around $1200. I was looking for a solid machine as I work from home and on the move often. It is superb laptop to work on. Still use my gaming desktop a lot but God damn the M1 processor is a marvel

  • @rinchanlife
    @rinchanlife 2 роки тому +24

    gotta love when muta makes a video about wasting money and proceeds to advertise raycons

    • @wrangler6922
      @wrangler6922 2 роки тому +13

      Gotta get that bread, but yeah, raycon is ass, dankpods did a good video on them.

    • @Skarwind
      @Skarwind 2 роки тому +4

      @@wrangler6922 Dankpods is the good stuff. 👍

    • @ghostlyhousehorrors
      @ghostlyhousehorrors 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah that's like every sponsor spot every youtubers are given, their all rubbish products, im sure muta knows raycon is trash (he did ridge sponsorships for bit and later mentioned it's flaws in a stream) but like the guy above me said youtubers gotta make bread, especially how it is in this site

    • @VelCroweBar
      @VelCroweBar 2 роки тому

      I disagree, my raycons are dope, but maybe that's just me.

    • @rinchanlife
      @rinchanlife 2 роки тому +2

      @@VelCroweBar well enjoy your $30 bootlegs with a $100 markup

  • @DawnOfTheOzz
    @DawnOfTheOzz 2 роки тому +9

    Muta: I wasted $5000 to game on a Mac. What have you done today?
    Me: Erm, I spent $30 on Hot Wheels.

    • @JOHNWICK-5903.5
      @JOHNWICK-5903.5 2 роки тому +2

      Hot wheels are great though.

    • @mhdj14
      @mhdj14 2 роки тому +2

      You bought the Gucci car, cool...

    • @DawnOfTheOzz
      @DawnOfTheOzz 2 роки тому +1

      @@mhdj14 Nah, proper good Hot Wheels. You don't need to spend a fortune to find quality shit.

  • @luigiismariosbrother.7656
    @luigiismariosbrother.7656 2 роки тому +1

    Another Banger Muta! Keep these videos coming and oh remember to turn on extreme power mode in your MacBook for better performance.

  • @xplodingmojo2087
    @xplodingmojo2087 2 роки тому +7

    “The fans just don’t kick up”
    This reminds me of my 600W PSU powering my 1060

  • @AMillar1
    @AMillar1 2 роки тому +6

    DONT BUY RAYCONS... The word con is in the name for a reason.
    A fart in a bathtub has better audio quality, earphones from the dollar store have a better frequency range... As for "or get your money back"... I'm still waiting, it's been almost 2 years since I returned them and still nothing.

  • @Shimeih
    @Shimeih 2 роки тому +14

    This is the closest we will ever get from Mutahar reviewing a device haha. Love it

  • @Smylie-Guy
    @Smylie-Guy 2 роки тому +1

    I am loving this slightly perturbed Muta . Thank you for your content

  • @terrongd
    @terrongd 2 роки тому +13

    Also, Dolphin Emulator runs Native on M1, not through Rosetta 2 (as said in the video)
    great vid btw

    • @roflBeck
      @roflBeck 2 роки тому +1

      Dolphin kicks ass. Playing Primehack with it rn. Also netplay for melee and double dash.

  • @Chaosxinc
    @Chaosxinc 2 роки тому +19

    I want to replace my gaming laptop (i7 1050Ti) with a M1 laptop. I don’t really need a gaming laptop anymore since I got an 8 core AMD w/ 3070. I’ve been eyeing the M1 computers from Apple for a few months and most likely will go down this route. It’s nice to see it handles emulation just fine since that’s usually the kind of gaming I would definitely do on it. Looks like a decent 16” M1 Mac is probably gonna be $3,000 since I prefer a bigger screen. Can’t wait now to see what I can get it to do.

    • @mexraymakers
      @mexraymakers 2 роки тому +4

      Do itt! Honestly IMO using a mac for school and work is so much less headache than windows. Simple things just work and now with the M1 pro and max having the bonus of playing some of your favorite games on the go is just great.

    • @Chaosxinc
      @Chaosxinc 2 роки тому +1

      @@mexraymakers exactly and especially for mobile, I need it to work reliably.

  • @MissNatalie55555
    @MissNatalie55555 2 роки тому +27

    This video is brilliant. I have my Mac book pro and I love it. Working on this thing is effortless. I just didn’t see it as an option for gaming. I have my pc, my PS5 and other consoles for that. Now that I have seen this I will definitely check it out.

    • @mexraymakers
      @mexraymakers 2 роки тому +7

      Mac is so perfect for daily tasks and work, fun to see that gaming is getting possible. Don’t think anyone is buying a macbook to replace a gaming pc, playing some rocket league on the go with nice framerate sounds perfect and don’t need much more than that.

    • @normaaliihminen722
      @normaaliihminen722 2 роки тому

      On your MacBook Pro Have you tried classic games, like Duke Nukem 3d or something along that era? What about Hotline Miami and KOTOR?

    • @MissNatalie55555
      @MissNatalie55555 2 роки тому +1

      @@normaaliihminen722 Nope, this is a new frontier for me now. I hopped on to some of his recommendations yesterday and it looks amazing. I’ll have more time over Christmas for a deeper dive.

    • @normaaliihminen722
      @normaaliihminen722 2 роки тому

      @@MissNatalie55555 Cool to hear!

  • @chrisfratz
    @chrisfratz 2 роки тому +3

    On the topic of Apple arcade, there are a small handful of gems that I highly recommend playing. My big recommendation is Lego builders Journey, I've never played the Apple arcade version (I bought the game on steam) but it is a really good game

  • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
    @VivekYadav-ds8oz 2 роки тому +1

    I'd be interested in some programming videos. It'd be interesting to see what project you program in, what's your favourite language etc.

  • @CorndogCrusader
    @CorndogCrusader 2 роки тому +61

    For anyone watching this video, do not buy RayCons. They are pure trash. They charge double the price for what they are worth. I understand Muta needs to get his money, but this is literal false advertising.

    • @arzaqqw
      @arzaqqw 2 роки тому +3

      Facts

    • @pxndxlunx5821
      @pxndxlunx5821 2 роки тому +20

      Kinda figured much when EVERYONE keeps getting sponsorships by them. They pretty much are the Raid Shadow Legends of Pods.

    • @cooper23231
      @cooper23231 2 роки тому

      LifelongCaboose would be proud of you thank you soldier.

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 2 роки тому +3

      DankPods is the only channel I trust with headphone recommendations

    • @theblackgamer8103
      @theblackgamer8103 2 роки тому

      Eh I don't agree but whatever

  • @IgnoreSolutions
    @IgnoreSolutions 2 роки тому +37

    MGSV is actually pretty damn well optimized, I'm impressed with it's quality. I actually played through most of it on my 2016 MacBook Pro, but under Bootcamp. It was buttery smooth at 1200p Medium/High settings

    • @shahilgupta8176
      @shahilgupta8176 2 роки тому +4

      Fox Engine and Hideo's team made it work pretty damn well on a PS3. MGS with the way its optimized can be the "It can run Doom" of RPG espionage esque game.

    • @IgnoreSolutions
      @IgnoreSolutions 2 роки тому +2

      @@shahilgupta8176 I tried the PS3 version for a bit! It was pretty damn good all things considering. I wound up letting a friend borrow that version and continued on completing the PC version instead.
      Makes me sad we may never see a Switch port, I bet it would run slightly better than the PS3 version.

    • @bedrock5067
      @bedrock5067 2 роки тому +1

      @@shahilgupta8176 So sad how they trashed that engine

    • @lanceelopezz223
      @lanceelopezz223 2 роки тому

      L

  • @myentertainment55
    @myentertainment55 2 роки тому

    As an IT interested guy I really appreciated your detour into processor of mac - it was interesting and insightful.

  • @oneeyedlittleman
    @oneeyedlittleman 2 роки тому +4

    Fantasian is a highlight from Apple arcade. Its from the original creator of final fantasy but is unfortunately trapped in apple arcade

  • @FallingPicturesProductions
    @FallingPicturesProductions 2 роки тому +6

    So all the poor shaming actually did work on him.

  • @ModePrometheus
    @ModePrometheus 2 роки тому +18

    His experience trying to game on a Mac is like my experience trying to make a kvm of windows to go full Linux for the day to day, it didn’t go well.

  • @igorgiuseppe1862
    @igorgiuseppe1862 2 роки тому

    11:20 loved this "kind" label, i wish we had stuff like this on steamOS/proton

  • @Axter6
    @Axter6 2 роки тому +2

    I’m a Mac user and this is an extremely good video on the limitations of Mac when it comes to gaming.

  • @TargetYourGame
    @TargetYourGame 2 роки тому +4

    this is exactly a chicken egg problem
    the developer won't put effort into recompiling their game with apple's Metal graphic API because there's no one buying their game on mac so no ROI in the investment.
    On the other hand, people don't buy Macs for gaming, because of no game there.

  • @spooon_leo
    @spooon_leo 2 роки тому +4

    They don’t allow COD Mobile on laptop because it makes a skill difference.

  • @Ilikesugs
    @Ilikesugs 2 роки тому

    I’m saving up for a 13” MacBook Pro for when I decide to take some classes and doing my finances. Definitely adding Logic Pro to do some music production. Cool to see you uploaded this video because lately people have been selling me on the idea of getting a Mac.

  • @kaichuuuuuu
    @kaichuuuuuu 2 роки тому

    Got the base of the base M1 Pro MBP for photo editing and maybe eventually light, on the go video editing and was my first time ever using a Mac. The display looks sweet and pretty damn impressed by how quick everything launches and how smoothly it handles Lr and Ps and the battery lasts forever.
    I had the exact same take as you - got the device for productivity and creative work and not for gaming whatsoever. That's why I have a desktop for gaming and video editing.

  • @ziyadML
    @ziyadML 2 роки тому +29

    $5000 on apple: just about able to emulate ps2 and play gta iv at 20 fps
    $5000 on windows: run your own server and play rdr2 at 120hz at the same time

    • @weighedclock9045
      @weighedclock9045 2 роки тому +9

      Ya all know macs are not built nor marketed for gaming

    • @AhmadWahelsa
      @AhmadWahelsa 2 роки тому +17

      @@weighedclock9045 yea we know macs are for those "rich" people that stupid enough to waste money on this "powerful" hardware

    • @weighedclock9045
      @weighedclock9045 2 роки тому +4

      I own a Mac and even it is stupid hardware I don’t call either stupid and both have different use cases and not everything is about raw power I own mine for video editing

    • @only4posting
      @only4posting 2 роки тому +7

      Do you have the smallest idea how a youtube channel with 3 million subscribers, is own merch, paid sponsors, patreon accounts, etc etc, can make, every single month ?
      There is a youtuber I follow, the guy plays a few games on twitch(les than 50-100 users watch it live) , and he posts the videos on UA-cam. He has less than 7'000 subscribers on youtube. 9 months ago, he left his $2500 job, and a few months ago, he purchased a gigantic house. I let you imagine...
      Now, if a guy that streams video games once or twice a week, with barely 7'000 youtube subs, can do ALL THAT,
      can you take 2 seconds, and try to imagine how much a channel with 3 million subs can make.
      You know, those sponsors, like manscape...VPN... etc... those contacts, aren't just $500 a month.... no, those contacts can easily cost 5k...10k...15'000...
      there is that fat gay dude, that eats like a pig.. something avocado... the guy has 2 million subs on youtube, a patreon account, sells stupid ugly t-shirts, for 40 bucks each... the guy just bought a penthouse, at the 50 or 60th floor, for...2.1 millions $ !
      Yes, man, that's no joke... people are making insane amounts of cash, with youtube. But they always pretend they barely make enough cash to buy some food... until the day they drop the veil, and announce they are moving to the new gigantic house they just acquired..! That is worth several millions...
      So the next time you watch a youtuber, with 1 or 2 million subs, almost crying, and begging for your help, because the bad boys from youtube have demonetized 2 or 3 videos, and he's very worried and concerned about his future... try to remember , that youtuber, is probably making 100 or $150'000 a month, and is worried and panicking, because that month, we will only make $148'000, instead of $150'000. Poor guy, he truly needs your help ! Life is so tough! How can a person even live, with only $150'000 a month... life is so cruel ...!
      So, when you are making those insane amounts of cash, you tend to buy what is the most expensive... because expensive = quality, right....
      Because if you can say you have a computer with 16, 32 or 64 cores, tons of ram, ultra fast m.2 drives, powerful rtx3090 cards, most people won't know how powerful that system is... but if you say 'I have a mac', wow, suddenly, you look like the most important and most intelligent person of the entire city !
      It's like the people who pay $10 for a coffee at Starbucks, the same coffee that costs $1 everywhere else. You are showing your status.
      And because you can't just walk with tens of $ over your head, for people to look at you... buy buying something expensive, you show how much you have (or are supposed to have..)

    • @ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it
      @ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it 2 роки тому +1

      120hz? more like 144hz wth HDR and blur reduction. lol

  • @jimjamjon2285
    @jimjamjon2285 2 роки тому +11

    The thing is though is that the performance between the $2k MacBook Pro and $5k MacBook Pro like you got is barely different, so in reality the experience you showed is capable on the baseline MacBook Pro, you didn’t have to pay $5k for that

  • @saolrecords
    @saolrecords 2 роки тому +2

    Futahar hitting us with once another banger!

  • @Monsuco
    @Monsuco 2 роки тому +1

    I imagine emulation on Rosetta 2 would be faster than emulation from within a hypervisor with Windows ARM. Rosetta 2 is apparently tuned specifically for the intricacies of the Apple M1 chip when translating x86_64 instructions to ARM while Microsoft's emulator just translates x86_64 to ARM.

  • @EdgeToFortnite
    @EdgeToFortnite 2 роки тому +5

    Bruh, Raycons are plastic trash. DO NOT BUY THEM. Just do a little bit of research and you can find much much higher quality audio for the $50 price tag

    • @doomguy8718
      @doomguy8718 2 роки тому

      Gotta pay taxes somehow. Also you can get the sponsorblock add-on to avoid sponsors or flag them for other users.

  • @Kaboomnz
    @Kaboomnz 2 роки тому +17

    Developers have enough to do without having to write code for a specific CPU. There is already an extreme amount of complexity even if you ignore the M1. This is why there are international standards and Apple have done their best to ignore those standards. Could be why developers are ignoring Apple.

    • @DenOfTimbsllc
      @DenOfTimbsllc 9 місяців тому

      Arm has been around since the 1980s, I guarantee you a lot of software manufacturers could take some time out of thier huge development teams, and code for arm.

  • @haziqsembilanlima
    @haziqsembilanlima 2 роки тому

    you should consider testing Ampere Altra as well. It's using ARM Neoverse core and actually matches thread vs thread with x86, at least that's what Phoronix manages to gather

  • @JuanGonzalez-nn6dw
    @JuanGonzalez-nn6dw 2 роки тому

    Love your computer desk

  • @ebin326
    @ebin326 2 роки тому +3

    U say waste but in the stream u bought it, u seemed really excited to spend that money 👀👀

  • @JustCliff
    @JustCliff 2 роки тому +3

    With the Switch having the most third party support out of any past Nintendo system, I'm surprised that devs aren't porting their games to arm based Macs.

  • @realpiranhaplant
    @realpiranhaplant 2 роки тому +2

    Being still stuck on just an intel macbook air OpenEmu is a godsend so I can run at least something

  • @blackfellowwhity4894
    @blackfellowwhity4894 Рік тому +1

    Everyone else: 3 year old
    Muta: “NEWBORN 3 YEARS LATER”

  • @vsclsvr
    @vsclsvr 2 роки тому +3

    And even just the base M1 is pretty amazing on its own

  • @jeremydoerksen5988
    @jeremydoerksen5988 2 роки тому +5

    For a content creator who edits their own work; the M1 Max systems are really the best shit out there

    • @Saz103
      @Saz103 2 роки тому +1

      I use an air and its still really good.

  • @AdriCr4ft
    @AdriCr4ft 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks Muta!
    Super helpful. If there’s anyone i would trust a review on, it’s definitely you.
    Ps: don’t know if you will read this but I’ll take the chance. Do you have any idea on why AMD drives uninstall themselves? I have been installing them daily. It’s driving me crazy. I have searched in Reddit and tried every solution people thought would work.
    Interested in hearing your two cents :|

  • @Xaddre
    @Xaddre 2 роки тому

    I’m excited for the future of arm gaming I can’t wait to see what they can do in 10 years once it’s likely fully adopted

  • @tld8102
    @tld8102 2 роки тому +4

    this might be controversial… a M1 max mac mini-like computer is a pretty good container server. especially running both x86 and arm64 containers with ability of those containers to take advantage of AI neural engine or the hardware encoding/transcoding on the integrated silicone media engine.

    • @L.K.48
      @L.K.48 2 роки тому +4

      That might be controversial indeed, I don't understand any of what you said though

  • @Breaks4Breaks
    @Breaks4Breaks 2 роки тому +20

    Sooooo………it’s Apples fault that developers haven’t created games for their OS, or that they run badly through translation?!?

    • @jameschen8
      @jameschen8 2 роки тому +20

      It’s Apples fault. They want to push developers to use Metal and most games are using a really old version of OpenGL.

    • @Breaks4Breaks
      @Breaks4Breaks 2 роки тому +7

      @@jameschen8 Apple don’t create the games, should it be Apple’s fault that a game created for an old system is not compatible with their new hardware and OS?

    • @jameschen8
      @jameschen8 2 роки тому +30

      @@Breaks4Breaks Never said they create games. Just saying that Apple is pushing their proprietary api "Metal" onto developers that is also missing features that DX12 & Vulkan have. To big studios it doesn't make sense right now to port their game onto macOS with the Metal API for like 5% of people running the macOS.

    • @functional200
      @functional200 2 роки тому +2

      Yes because they're really shitty when it comes to providing developers with the needed tools and apis compared to Microsoft

    • @Breaks4Breaks
      @Breaks4Breaks 2 роки тому

      @@jameschen8 Apple have provided the tools to create games and applications for their platform going forward, if developers on other platforms want to code for Apple arm based devices, then that’s up to them.

  • @AronZivo
    @AronZivo 2 роки тому

    Love that you use parallels on mac

  • @Asoukes
    @Asoukes 2 роки тому +1

    I really hope RISK-V will be able to ride on the coattails of desktop ARM processors, assuming that desktop ARM succeeds in becoming mainstream in the coming years.

  • @elonmusk420
    @elonmusk420 2 роки тому +7

    Very nice and detailed explanation of things. It’s all weird, at some point steam macos library was decent, but apple had to drop 32bit support, now we have ARM, devs cannot keep up with this!
    Best case scenario consoles switch to ARM and macs become perfect next gen gaming devices.

  • @bluenexus1212
    @bluenexus1212 2 роки тому +3

    honestly, if i could game on an apple laptop like i can on my windows laptop, i would 100% switch over to apple

  • @josir1994
    @josir1994 2 роки тому +1

    the best only retro gaming laptop, with a matching revolutionary 30ms response time

  • @HonkIfYoureSad
    @HonkIfYoureSad 2 роки тому

    Also, just guessing from the one second clip I saw, seems you're also fan of Liam Wong's street photography. Best desktop wallpapers ever.

  • @damianocampo4635
    @damianocampo4635 2 роки тому +3

    Luv u muta!♥️♥️♥️♥️

  • @sefeiba7477
    @sefeiba7477 2 роки тому +3

    2k base model is good enough for most these things, if you don't know whether you need a max you probably don't need it, not talking about gaming.

  • @chickenpasta7359
    @chickenpasta7359 2 роки тому +1

    The problem besides coding games to ARM is that they want to keep using Metal as their graphics API. If they would at least implement OpenGL or Vulkan, we could see more native support on their computers

  • @MysticRixel
    @MysticRixel 2 роки тому +2

    You know that Mac was expensive when Muta had to accept Raycon as sponsor.

  • @tlingitsoldier
    @tlingitsoldier 2 роки тому +46

    I can truly appreciate people wanting to get away from Windows, but it's pretty awful to have such a subpar experience for so much money.

    • @alolanstarboy
      @alolanstarboy 2 роки тому +14

      Yeah, gaming on a Mac is really not it and probably won’t be for the foreseeable future. If you have any other work though these new M1 macs are crazy good and their batteries last ages

    • @cpK054L
      @cpK054L 2 роки тому +5

      @@alolanstarboy Not unless game developers start programming games for RISC instruction sets...

    • @Point_n_Shoot
      @Point_n_Shoot 2 роки тому +6

      Not Subpar for creative work. His Adobe example was fucking perfect. I have both an older pc and a newer-ish 2019 Mac. The better experience has been on the Mac even though I cant game on it much. Plus if we talk laptops, I actually enjoy being able to move around with my laptop. The speakers on macs are usually way better too. Both can be good depending on how you’re going to use your computer.

    • @thepandrbr
      @thepandrbr 2 роки тому

      @@Point_n_Shoot so what i got is: mac is better for creative work, other devices are better for gaming. Am i getting it right?

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 2 роки тому

      @@thepandrbr Yes. Macs are literally like being handed alien technology. For graphic design, video editing, sound design, photo editing, and recording, and everything from authoring an ebook to website design, to coding certain types of applications. And it’s honestly the most bug free and smooth daily driver and media consumption device ever.
      You can easily accomplish your entire creative workflow on a Mac, and certainly run a small business with one.
      However for gaming they are subpar at best compared to a top of the line gaming rig.
      Honestly I hate Apple but they are truly the greatest in town hardware wise and software wise as an entire retail unit.

  • @My2cents.
    @My2cents. 2 роки тому +12

    One doesn’t experience self transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates🎈

  • @Scrumptious_
    @Scrumptious_ 2 роки тому +1

    I just got the most recent macbook, and I must say this is pog.

  • @KingKrouch
    @KingKrouch 2 роки тому

    I'm surprised there's no interest in developers working on implementing proper Proton and Box86 support to run Windows games on OSX, considering virtualization has a lot to do with performance overhead. Would be interesting to see how it would fare under Proton without any sort of Virtual Machine work needed.

  • @DanTheSlayer5212
    @DanTheSlayer5212 2 роки тому +6

    Why would you game on a McDonald's food item? Weird.

  • @madokakaname471
    @madokakaname471 2 роки тому +10

    "cant get distracted by games if you cant even run the games "
    -average apple copium user

    • @floppa_9530
      @floppa_9530 2 роки тому +7

      @Joe yeet, cope and seethe. he is kinda lit ngl and you aint based

    • @Soliye.
      @Soliye. 2 роки тому

      @Joe What’s the problem with OP’s comment?

    • @chubbyanemone696
      @chubbyanemone696 2 роки тому

      @Joe pretty sure those terms originated on Twitter.

    • @MixedVictor
      @MixedVictor 2 роки тому

      @Joe your mom 😎

  • @SmokeOneAndChill
    @SmokeOneAndChill 2 роки тому

    Almost 3 million subs. Nice Muta and youtube bad for hiding dislikes.

  • @StoneCat420
    @StoneCat420 2 роки тому

    This is super neat thanks!

  • @aegonthedragon7303
    @aegonthedragon7303 2 роки тому +17

    Muta: I Wasted $5000 To Game On a Mac...
    Also Muta: does a highly detailed review of the M1 Max highlighting both its strengths and weaknesses.

    • @gaaraati
      @gaaraati 2 роки тому +2

      Yes and people in the comments seem to think gaming is the only reason people buy computers.

    • @aegonthedragon7303
      @aegonthedragon7303 2 роки тому

      Yeah. The Mac has sort of always been a prosumer oriented platform; for photo/video work, audio work, desktop publishing, and general office tasks. The only computer where they really pushed gaming was the 1999 Power Mac G3 because they shipped them with higher end ATI cards.

    • @luan4753
      @luan4753 2 роки тому

      @@gaaraati anything you can do with Mac you can also do elsewhere

  • @hemtaii
    @hemtaii 2 роки тому +19

    The PC master race is disappointed in all who game on an Apple product

    • @vopilu
      @vopilu 2 роки тому +1

      @SC (BEST UA-camR EVER) Get out of here, bot. Yes, I took the bait. No one’s going to watch your stupid vid. Also, if you were the Best UA-camr Ever, you wouldn’t have to spell it out in your channel name.

    • @WaterASMR
      @WaterASMR 2 роки тому

      "Master race" *Deals with hackers 24/7*

    • @vopilu
      @vopilu 2 роки тому +2

      To be fair, I do play some cool mobile games from time to time on my iPhone.

  • @rayt.7128
    @rayt.7128 2 роки тому

    Use Parsec and stream games to your MacBook from your Windows virtual machine. Record everything on the MacBook, edit and publish it.

  • @palaashatri
    @palaashatri 2 роки тому

    possibly progress with emulation will make m1 macs viable for PS3/X360 titles and I'll honestly be fine with it.
    Also, if progress accelerates on projects like Asahi and Box86, one can possibly play the whole Steam Deck library on the M1 by the end of the year.

  • @dwmexe9474
    @dwmexe9474 2 роки тому +6

    don't buy raycon they're pretty bad

  • @normalabsolutely7240
    @normalabsolutely7240 2 роки тому +6

    Why would you waste your precious money on a mac instead of a zune. Smh

  • @dealloc
    @dealloc 2 роки тому

    Did you try to use QEMU with Windows ARM? There's a launcher called ACVM which can be used to launch ARM64 VM on M1. Also try to enable virtio-gpu to see if that makes any difference.

  • @TheRealKeyvan
    @TheRealKeyvan 2 роки тому

    Hey Muta, just want to say thanks. Been using Arch for half a year now and just set up a VM with GPU passthrough so I can play some Halo Infinite with the bros.

  • @madhavan7007
    @madhavan7007 2 роки тому +4

    12:50 I think Activision/ TiMi is not allowing people to play the game (CoDM) on Mac for good reason. There's ways to play is through an official emulator that doesn't get you banned but pairs you with other emulator players. People playing on a phone with their fingers would be at an obvious disadvantage if put up against people with keyboard and mouse.

  • @nabri-nfg3262
    @nabri-nfg3262 2 роки тому +3

    🤔 imma pay 5k for a computer just to pay extra for 3rd party software to run the games i want to play.
    And they won't even run that good.
    I get it you buy a Mac for the software but don't try and convince people that it's good for gaming it's really not bro

  • @pwnomega4562
    @pwnomega4562 2 роки тому

    Wallet: what did it cost
    Muta: everything

  • @tux_the_astronaut
    @tux_the_astronaut 2 роки тому +2

    Ive been compiling lots if apps on my m1 mac and its way faster than my gaming pc like i can compile the godot game engine in like 5 minutes
    And for intel only apps like obs I actually compiled for m1 so now it runs 10x faster

  • @jbBehemoth
    @jbBehemoth 2 роки тому +4

    How does my 12:36?

  • @nashbrandon
    @nashbrandon 2 роки тому +6

    I have to admit it, recently bought an M1 Mac Mini and on an even crazier note... *_I'm enjoying it._*

  • @ClavinZKL
    @ClavinZKL 2 роки тому

    Ok mutahar idk about you but when I'm doing work on my pc I have speakers to listen to whatever I want I tought mist people do too. Lol nice ad tho

  • @itsdarpreet
    @itsdarpreet 2 роки тому

    at 6:20, when mute was running crossover I knew he would do it!

  • @thefunbuns1
    @thefunbuns1 2 роки тому +5

    ARM is amazing for efficiency, but what really sets the M1 family apart is the design. It's an integrated SOC, so memory bandiwdth is through the roof, and they broke away from the intel style of small fast cores and opted for CPU cores with far more transistors/ops that run at lower speeds (i believe 3.2GHz peak on M1). This allows them to stay towards the bottom of the efficiency curve, enjoying the full benefits of modern fab processes and their low power draw, but it comes at the cost of a larger processor that uses a lot more silicon, hence higher costs.

  • @lvuhz
    @lvuhz 2 роки тому +8

    Wonder who the guy that makes sure he’s the first to dislike your video is. Hope the rest of his life is good to him so that he no longer feels the need to impede another’s happiness🙏🏼

    • @breezemansker3366
      @breezemansker3366 2 роки тому +2

      Probably still does is and tells himself its even more personal now because only Muta can see it

  • @stijnVDA1994
    @stijnVDA1994 2 роки тому +2

    Tbh, for 5k i can get a gaming pc build myself and get gamepass and then all of the premium software variants of what i might need and still have money in the pocket for games, all in all it's a neat idea but is it worth it? I have no clue...