All about feelings - if the facts in the book wrong then debate the facts. Truth is absolutely essential. Reconciliation is a two way street and not one way.
Three years have gone by. If you really believe there are 215 graves at Kamloops then do some excavations - and who exactly is buried there? No parents ever reported their children as missing and if you go to Nina Green’s website there are school records, parents applications to attend, attendance records , death certificates of children who died and cause of death ( diseases like TB) and place of burial.
Enough with hurt feedings, can we talk about the facts of the matter? Facts are truth. How can there be Reconciliation if you can't/won't talk about the Truth (ie facts, like the ones presented in this book)?
Sorry boys, but that's a lot of defection, avoidance, fluff and nonsense. Nobody wins from silly whining. Either there are or are not bodies buried in that field near the Kamloops residential school. It seems rather obvious that you are just not interested, or are possibly afraid, to find out. Your criticisms of the book were simply incoherent.
How about the white reform schools , or how about the white kids that went to the Indian schools beside the Indian kids . The white adults aren't out getting compensation . I am slowly reading the book also , a few pages at a sitting .
It is sad to listen to this guy repeat the lies and misrepresentations about residential schools and the treatment of aboriginal peoples. Sadly he is failing to see that he has been lied to by his own people. Mind you the guilt trip he’s trying to perpetuate is starting beginning to crumble. Hopefully he will begin to see the light!!!
My ancestors, my faith and my country have been accused of the most horrific crimes imaginable. Against children! Many church's have been burned to the ground. Million of dollars given. I don't one fu*k about your feelings. We want answers.
It is called Truth and Reconciliation not Lies and Reconciliation. Knowing that no graves were found does not mean the indigenous did not suffer in schools and during the scoop etc. Do I have to repeat lies so that I'm not called a denialist? Will teachers continue to tell students that 215 or 2000 or 100,000 graves were found?
You can handwave and say "oh well duh burning churches is bad, but we were *hurt*" but pretending that the burning of churches isnt related to the conversation is absolutely cowardly.
You're doing important work however, and I sincerely think your guest is disingenuous. The fury I feel when he handwaves the burning of churches is quite palpable and I don't think a productive conversation is even possible at the moment. If this book is "denialism", then he absolutely handwaved and probably supports the assaults on Catholics.
Indigenous students that attended Residential Schools had a better grasp of their own language. Indigenous Culture was promoted not discouraged. But in Residential Schools during the day they could only speak the language they were learning English. Similar to French Immersion today.
So many people here are dismissively talking about "facts" and denying the harm done to the original people of this land. Denying how we truly feel is how our colonial elites can separate us and drive wedges between the people who were recently harmed by colonialism and the "move on" people who have never healed the harm done to their own ancestors from colonialism, the harms that brought many of their own ancestors here to a land where they thought they could build a better life and escape the persecution of their ancestors in the "old country".
All about feelings - if the facts in the book wrong then debate the facts. Truth is absolutely essential. Reconciliation is a two way street and not one way.
Three years have gone by. If you really believe there are 215 graves at Kamloops then do some excavations - and who exactly is buried there? No parents ever reported their children as missing and if you go to Nina Green’s website there are school records, parents applications to attend, attendance records , death certificates of children who died and cause of death ( diseases like TB) and place of burial.
It's all about - GIVE US MONEY. Just look at all the money given to all the Tribes! And no bodies!
Enough with hurt feedings, can we talk about the facts of the matter? Facts are truth. How can there be Reconciliation if you can't/won't talk about the Truth (ie facts, like the ones presented in this book)?
Sorry boys, but that's a lot of defection, avoidance, fluff and nonsense. Nobody wins from silly whining. Either there are or are not bodies buried in that field near the Kamloops residential school. It seems rather obvious that you are just not interested, or are possibly afraid, to find out. Your criticisms of the book were simply incoherent.
Facts don't care about your feelings, but emotional appeals can can breed hate.
How about the white reform schools , or how about the white kids that went to the Indian schools beside the Indian kids . The white adults aren't out getting compensation . I am slowly reading the book also , a few pages at a sitting .
It is sad to listen to this guy repeat the lies and misrepresentations about residential schools and the treatment of aboriginal peoples. Sadly he is failing to see that he has been lied to by his own people. Mind you the guilt trip he’s trying to perpetuate is starting beginning to crumble. Hopefully he will begin to see the light!!!
My ancestors, my faith and my country have been accused of the most horrific crimes imaginable. Against children! Many church's have been burned to the ground. Million of dollars given. I don't one fu*k about your feelings. We want answers.
Butthurt that the grift has been exposed. Not one word in this video to refute the information in the book. Not a single word.
speak for yourself
It is called Truth and Reconciliation not Lies and Reconciliation. Knowing that no graves were found does not mean the indigenous did not suffer in schools and during the scoop etc. Do I have to repeat lies so that I'm not called a denialist? Will teachers continue to tell students that 215 or 2000 or 100,000 graves were found?
The book was written by scholars with established reputations of journalistic integrity - this should not be discounted.
What if the author said we have other ways of "knowing"?
You can handwave and say "oh well duh burning churches is bad, but we were *hurt*" but pretending that the burning of churches isnt related to the conversation is absolutely cowardly.
You're doing important work however, and I sincerely think your guest is disingenuous. The fury I feel when he handwaves the burning of churches is quite palpable and I don't think a productive conversation is even possible at the moment. If this book is "denialism", then he absolutely handwaved and probably supports the assaults on Catholics.
Indigenous students that attended Residential Schools had a better grasp of their own language. Indigenous Culture was promoted not discouraged. But in Residential Schools during the day they could only speak the language they were learning English. Similar to French Immersion today.
3 weeks and 600 subs....says it all
So many people here are dismissively talking about "facts" and denying the harm done to the original people of this land. Denying how we truly feel is how our colonial elites can separate us and drive wedges between the people who were recently harmed by colonialism and the "move on" people who have never healed the harm done to their own ancestors from colonialism, the harms that brought many of their own ancestors here to a land where they thought they could build a better life and escape the persecution of their ancestors in the "old country".
It's clear you haven't read the book - judging it before reading it.
Victim forever in your own imagination
Anguish? Feelings?? What did the book get wrong exactly?? Uh uh uh uh uh it hurt my feelings and my grift.
Nothing but word salad. Clear indication someone is lying.